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Speaker 2: Okay, sports nets. Ben Nicholson Smith is dialed in on

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Speaker 2: AJ's already shaking his head. Not at you, Ben, we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that says a lot right there. I mean, when

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Speaker 2: Is he not Canada's baseball son? I mean, tell me

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Speaker 4: Never would have thought we'd say that right.

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Speaker 3: Never would have thought when they when they had Bigo,

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Speaker 3: Guerrero and Bashet, they were like, oh man, we got

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Speaker 3: a chance to be great for years, and they went

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Speaker 3: out and signed some guys. So it's crazy that they

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Speaker 3: haven't won a playoff game with this core group of people.

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Speaker 3: Now they went out. Jordan Romano was great for the

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Speaker 3: Blue Jays, closing in the ninth inning. You know, he

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Speaker 3: had some wild rides, but when he got it done,

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Speaker 3: he got it done. They go out and get Hoffman

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Speaker 3: to switch. Is Jeff Hoffman the answer for the ninth

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Speaker 3: inning for the Toronto Blue Jays? Can he be that

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Speaker 3: closer every day?

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Speaker 1: I think he can be. I think that we'll have

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Speaker 1: to see you. Hopefully the shoulder holds up through spring.

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Speaker 1: I know that the Braves and the Orioles had some

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Speaker 1: concerns about that, which fled to some deals that fell

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Speaker 1: through there. But if he's closing, if he's pitching one

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Speaker 1: inning at a time and not being asked to start,

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Speaker 1: which Atlanta I think had talked to him about then

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Speaker 1: you're looking at maybe sixty innings in the course of

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Speaker 1: a season. You know, I haven't seen the MRIs. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't know how to interpret them if I did, so,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of guesswork from here. But if he is healthy,

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Speaker 1: just how dominant he was with the Phillies the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years, I really do see that as being

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Speaker 1: a pitcher who can close thirty thirty five games and

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Speaker 1: be really reliable, and they need that in their bullpen

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Speaker 1: because it was not a good scene down there last year.

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Speaker 2: We shall see there at least were changes. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if the changes actually lead to success for this team. Ben,

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Speaker 2: really great breakdown from me. Appreciate it obviously. Everyone check

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Speaker 2: out Ben's work at Sportsnet and you can follow him

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Speaker 2: to see all his work at E Nicholson Smith.

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Speaker 1: Always great to talk to you, Ben, Thank you, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much us anytime,