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Speaker 1: And Martinez in Real Life podcast. So I am at

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Speaker 1: this stunning office. Thank you, the stunning office of Kim Gardashian.

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Speaker 1: It's not just Kim, right, it's Skims. It's all of

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Speaker 1: your businesses here. It's not really our mean Skims office,

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Speaker 1: but it's everything I do. So it's my skin office.

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Speaker 1: I just rebranded my beauty brand um with my skincare,

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Speaker 1: with the makeup nice, the tables beautiful, the chairs are lovely.

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Speaker 1: It does right. It's like, oh, like monochromatic, like when

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Speaker 1: I post pictures of my house, they're they're like, wow,

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Speaker 1: this is so minimal and crazy, or they're like or

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Speaker 1: they get it, but I love it. I just like

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Speaker 1: I get it for you. When I came in, I

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Speaker 1: felt immediately peaceful. Yeah, And I realized, like, for your

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Speaker 1: life and as crazy as your life is, this one

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Speaker 1: you must need this, like you must need peace at

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Speaker 1: any anyway you can get it. And when I walk

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Speaker 1: in and I see just a calm, peaceful like workspace,

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Speaker 1: living space. The people who work here are old color coordinated. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Is that intentional? Absolutely? I have I have Well it's

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Speaker 1: not like, hey, this is like your uniform, it's just

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Speaker 1: color palettes. Is this like a handbook, though, Is this

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Speaker 1: like handbook? Yeah? Grays, heather, gray, black, navy, white, cream, khaki.

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Speaker 1: I mean we can stick with all neutrals and like

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Speaker 1: not not a lot of color blocking, Like my house

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Speaker 1: is so zen. So I asked how everyone felt about it,

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Speaker 1: and everyone actually said that would make our life so easy.

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Speaker 1: be easier for them, yes, let's do this. It's so good.

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Speaker 1: It really is a feeling. It should like a few

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Speaker 1: a free dress day on their birthdays or something that

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Speaker 1: irritate the whole day. First of all, Kim, thank you

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Speaker 1: for doing this today. It was such like I was

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Speaker 1: coming to l a I've shot here before. And it's

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Speaker 1: funny because this podcast, actually my first episode was with

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Speaker 1: Lauren London and sharing her story and how she's gotten

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Speaker 1: her she have you met her? Lauren? Yeah, she's um,

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Speaker 1: She's had a lot of work on herself, but she's

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Speaker 1: so truthful and so honest that it just like set

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Speaker 1: to conversations about what are you wearing exactly? Know, I'm

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Speaker 1: interested in what your staff wears, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I'm so interested in having like real

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Speaker 1: conversations about just our real lives and what I'm what

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Speaker 1: I'm most interested in you about is you seem to

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Speaker 1: have navigated because you have a very complex, hated life

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Speaker 1: that is so big. It's so big, and everybody has

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Speaker 1: so many opinions about it, and you're constantly um the

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Speaker 1: You just there's so much energy around you, and I

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Speaker 1: just fascinated how you manage it? Yeah? Um, and do

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Speaker 1: The TikTok is so good. Oh my god, it's so

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Speaker 1: not that type that thinks I know everything. But I'm

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00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: also not one of those people that is like, oh

428
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: my god, I wish I wasn't famous. Being a celebrity

429
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: is so hard. Obviously, more money, more problems like all

430
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: of that. Yes, you know, when my mom lives with

431
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: that guilt a lot, you know, Like God, if I

432
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: hadn't really like encouraged everyone, maybe we wouldn't have like

433
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: some of these hardships that come in our lives. And

434
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, mom, this what our journey is. This is

435
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: like for us to elevate to the next level. Like

436
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: we have to go through these things in life in

437
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: order to be able to grow and evolve and get

438
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: to the next level. Like, this is what our journey

439
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: is supposed to be, these hard things. What would life

440
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: be if nothing was? You kind of enjoy the challenge,

441
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: am And I think too, Maybe not when I'm in it,

442
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: but I'm proud that I made it through. And I'm

443
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: proud that I I learned my lesson from every single

444
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 1: thing that I go through. I'm so not oblivious to

445
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: what's happening when it's happening, and that is, I think,

446
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: such an important place to get to, even if I'm like,

447
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: even if it's a smaller thing, I'm like, Okay, that's interesting.

448
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: Is there ever a time where you do feel like

449
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,239
Speaker 1: you could? I know, you know, I know You're not

450
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: the what was me? I'm famous. I don't want to

451
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: be famous, but like because you can't even can you

452
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: go to the supermarket? You can go to the supermarket,

453
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: you can't go to can you go anywhere? Do you

454
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: ever miss any normal life activities? Like what I mean,

455
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: I really missed going to like CVS and stuff like

456
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 1: that was my life. I saw you go to CVS

457
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: with David Letterman. This is the first time in hell

458
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: long in a long time. But I'm also like, I

459
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: went to see VS today. It was really not that great.

460
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: I just love going up the It was okay, Target, Walmart,

461
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: like all those a grocery store. Couldn't you do like

462
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: I know, Beyonce does Beyonce I said she's put the

463
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: guys on to go a bicycle on a bike in

464
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: Central Park. Have you ever tried? No? I mean I

465
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: think it's like because then you need security because you

466
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: need to you know, It's like, it's fine, You're okay,

467
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm fine. You know you can have a CVS in

468
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: the back of the office. I'm fine. What are you

469
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: most proud of about yourself? I mean, I'm sure you're

470
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: proud of your kids, but I mean about you likely

471
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: like um, in terms of your evolution and what you've

472
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: become and what you've built I'm most proud that I've

473
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: got into a place in my life where it's not

474
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: all about me, and a lot of my life has

475
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: been all about me, and I um houscle just in

476
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: helping other people and dedicating a lot of my time

477
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: and energy to helping as many people as I can,

478
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: just in the prison system and learning a lot and

479
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: probably like the challenge of actually going back to school.

480
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: I never was like a school girl. I never really

481
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: liked it. So the challenge of like going back and

482
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: having to study. I mean I do like twenty hours

483
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: a week plus you know, every single day. I take

484
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: one day a week off and um, you know, I

485
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: have like about a year and a half. What are

486
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: you working on now? Like what are the cases? Because

487
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: you're doing as you're studying, and so I work on

488
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: cases at the same time. Um, I will be working

489
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: on I mean the Julius Jones case in Oklahoma. We

490
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: um he was granted a stay of execution, but he

491
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: still is now in prison life without parole. So that'll

492
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: be something that will work on until we get him

493
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: out and continue to fight for him. UM working on

494
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: c murders case constantly. What do you do exactly? Like

495
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: is it. We're trying to get him out, but everything

496
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: is there, every situation is different, and I do everything

497
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: privately first. That's my strategy. So if I have to

498
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: get to the governor and the attorneys, I will work

499
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: privately until it doesn't work anymore. And we really have

500
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: to get loud. And even when I get loud, and

501
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned people, a lot of the times we have

502
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: communicated first before, so I do like to communicate with

503
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: whatever whoever is in power or to help me these decisions.

504
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: And it's lengthy processes. There was something I didn't know

505
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: at the beginning and thought that everyone just got out

506
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: when you make the call, and with Alice, I was

507
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 1: really naive to how this all worked. Um, but it's

508
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot of work that goes behind it, and

509
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the paperwork in the drafts that have

510
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: to be written. There's so many other cases that I'm

511
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,959
Speaker 1: working on. Why are you doing this? I wondered if

512
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: it had to do with your dad, I think it's

513
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I think he would like love it, and he would

514
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: be so proud of me and so happy for me.

515
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: That's for you, I mean him and I talked about it,

516
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: actually we talked about me going to law school, and

517
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: he was like he actually was like listen, I don't

518
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: think being an attorney is going to be your thing,

519
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: and and we talked about it, and it's kind of

520
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: like it's just more of like a personal challenge. I

521
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: hated how I felt when I went into the White

522
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: House for the first time and I didn't know half

523
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: of anything that they were saying, like all of the

524
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: like clemency talk and all of the attorney lingo and

525
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: everything that they were talking about. I literally was sitting

526
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: there like texting my attorney that was next to me,

527
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: Like I was to the point where I didn't even

528
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: know like all of the abbreviations in the White House.

529
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: So they were like, Okay, this person at the d

530
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: J and the and I was like, what is my

531
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: attorney was like come on, Department of Justice, and like

532
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: she kept texting me all this stuff. But I was

533
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: never too embarrassed to ask. And I think that sometimes,

534
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: like you go into something and you like I should

535
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: know all this stuff, and so I just I just

536
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: dove into it. And then they kept on inviting me back,

537
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: like to full clemency meetings of how to make the

538
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: clemency process easier. And I remember having this big meeting

539
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: in the Roosevelt Room and and I just was I

540
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: want I had to bring my attorneys with me, and

541
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to be there on my own.

542
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: And I felt like every time I helped someone, it

543
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: would always be like, Okay, well talk talking to the team, Well, okay,

544
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: what can we do? What can you do? I'll just

545
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: like supervise, but like, what can you do? Because you're

546
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: the attorney, they can get them out. And I just

547
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: feel like I can get more people out if I

548
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: knew it and I can do it myself. I do

549
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: all the work. It's not just a small thing. You know. Celebrities,

550
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: people without access or privilege decide so they want to

551
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: give back in some type of way. So they write

552
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: a check, or they they donated a little bit of

553
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: a time, or they support a cause. This amount of

554
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: efforts that you are putting anyway, from my kids every

555
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: single day for three hours a day, you know, it's

556
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: I do test I had some mid terms last week,

557
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: writing essays I'm doing And then what's the end goal?

558
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a vision for it? Like do you

559
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: know what? Like I hope that I can open up

560
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: a firm that hires formally incarcerated people. I think they

561
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: know the laws so well. A lot of the people

562
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: inside that have had to fight for their lives with

563
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: no attorney, no access to attorneys, no good at sometimes

564
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: not a good attorney. So I really have a lot

565
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: of faith and trust that I can open up a

566
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: firm that just like hires some really smart people that

567
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: just work on getting people out. This is like a

568
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: huge reason why I also don't cancel people. Everyone cancels everybody,

569
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: but everyone cancels these people that like make a bad choice,

570
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: a horrible choice, a really crazy choice sometimes. But then

571
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think that redemption for I

572
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: think anybody's like I believe in redemption absolutely, like absolutely,

573
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean I I I hope that this

574
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: is you know what, I just like I do see

575
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: like one day just being an attorney and like giving

576
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: up a little kim Ki, you know, I do see that.

577
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I don't know if I don't know if

578
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: you could pull it off because you love this. You

579
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: love this, I know how much, how much as like

580
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: in real life, so we it's amazing how you inspire

581
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: looks you wear something I see I go out I see.

582
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: I saw today and now I'm in at Los Angeles,

583
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: so I really see the kim Ki effect. In my

584
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: hotel lobby, I saw three girls that looked like you. Yeah,

585
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: their hair was the same color blonde, They had the

586
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: same they were the same thing. Kind of dyed my

587
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: hair blonde because I was like, okay, I want to

588
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: switch it up, want to switch okay. But then when

589
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: you switch it up, there was a whole fashion movement

590
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: of people that kind of come, do you love that?

591
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: Like is that a thing for you? Like, do you

592
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: still have that? I don't really think about it, you

593
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I just like do what I like and

594
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: when I feel like a change and when I feel like,

595
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really think about that. I just

596
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: do like what I want to do and the makeup

597
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: that I like. And I'm not thinking of like, oh

598
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: I have to start a trend. I just wondering, like,

599
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: in real life, how much clothing means to you? I

600
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: mean material things, because that is a criticism. Interesting is

601
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: like it used to mean so much to me, and

602
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: it's completely how I valued my importance by the things

603
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: that I had, the cars that I had, I had

604
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: to have like I thought that that made me cooler,

605
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: and after I was robbed of all of it in Paris,

606
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was needing that lesson, but that

607
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: lesson was so well received. Isn't it crazy how the

608
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: universe will give you exactly what you need, even if

609
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: you don't understand it in the momently, even if I

610
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: believe that like shakes you to your core, like my bags,

611
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: my stuff, even the memories of it, Like I know

612
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: I have that memory, so I don't really need that object.

613
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: I have objects. I have it all and now that

614
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: like when all my jewelry and stuff was taken from me,

615
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: like I don't I just truly don't care about stuff

616
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: like that, Like I want what feels good. I want

617
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: if it's a memory, I'll hold on to that, but

618
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: if it was taken again, it wouldn't affect me, Like

619
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: things are now just for fun for me. But the

620
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: lesson of having it all taken from me really made

621
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: me understand that, like all of this stuff doesn't matter,

622
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: and all of this stuff can be taken from you,

623
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't go with you. And I'm so happy that

624
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: that all happened to me, And like there's fires in

625
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: Calabasas and sometimes you know, we have to pack up

626
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: our whole house the first year, go to my shoe

627
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: and back closet, pack up everything. Maybe the first two fires.

628
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean I have all my stuff, like my letters

629
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, Like I already got

630
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: rid of that stuff. But far as stuff in the house,

631
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: go for it. Now there's a fire, I'd literally just

632
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: walk out with my babies, like I wouldn't even waste

633
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: the time. Like it doesn't hold the same weight for you, right,

634
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: I still love it. You still love pretty things and totally,

635
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: but that's it's like the fun icing on the cake.

636
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: It's not the cake. I don't need it, and I'm

637
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: and I'm secure and confident in myself to know that

638
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: that I could walk out, I know i'd makeup on

639
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: and all that and stuff like I even that was

640
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: like a shield, you know, always having to be made up,

641
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: always having to look a certain way. No one likes

642
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: to dress up more than me, but I know I

643
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: don't need to and I don't care what the comments

644
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: say and all of that. If I were to go

645
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: out not looking the way that people want me to,

646
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: that is like I feel the way that I feel

647
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: like I'm in my life right now. I feel free.

648
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: I feel free of things. I feel free of like opinions.

649
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: There's moments, you'll have your moment, but I'd say in

650
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: this last year, this year for me, even I got

651
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: emotional before talking about Kanye, but that was in relation

652
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: to like my kids and my protection. I feel free

653
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: in the sense that I am not anybody else. I

654
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: don't hold anyone else's thoughts, opinions burdens. And I used

655
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 1: to hold this guilt that I wasn't there to fix

656
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 1: situations and I wasn't there to put it all back

657
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: together or to I'm I'm free. Do you never feel

658
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: the urge to like? And I feel like you do

659
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,439
Speaker 1: some times watching your show and you respond to things

660
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: one needed. Yeah, but like and it's on my mood, yeah,

661
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: because I mean recently he accused you of some things,

662
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: but he always has accused you of some things and

663
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: or attached you to people or your family members to people,

664
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: and you haven't really said anything about any of that.

665
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: Because it's like if I'm in a petty moon, I'll

666
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: go back and I'll be like, Okay, I have all

667
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: the receipts, you know, and like Okay, you wanna mess

668
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: with me on this, like, oh my god, the receipts

669
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: I have. But then I go back to my babies

670
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: and I think they will see if they'll feel my energy.

671
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm the one that's at home with them seven and

672
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: they will feel my energy. And if I have to

673
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: go and deflect every ridiculous thing that is said about me,

674
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: even if it's from the per person that was the

675
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: closest to me that was supposed to protect me and

676
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: still will post I'm your protector and I'm I'm protecting whatever.

677
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 1: If I go and let the energy in my life

678
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: to go say this one is not true, and this

679
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: one's not true, and this one's not true, and no,

680
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: this is not true about my mom and no. It's

681
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: like I go back and forth on that. Sometimes I

682
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: want to like get so sometimes I get heated and

683
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, that is so not true, and it like

684
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: affects a lot of people. I was going to say

685
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: that because sometimes it's not just even you and him.

686
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes it could affect other people's families. It could absolutely

687
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: And that's I think the hardest part of figuring it out.

688
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: But sometimes you just have to say this isn't the

689
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: energy I'm going to let in my life and I

690
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: have to like rise above it and not be in

691
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: this like like I just from my mental health and

692
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: my sanity. As long as everyone inside knows what's good,

693
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: then it's like, but the character, um, I don't know

694
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: what the word is, like assassina, character assassination pretty much

695
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: that the testing of my character to make me look

696
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: like a bad like just out of my character is

697
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: the one thing that's hard because there's already so many

698
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: people that have that energy that you were saying that,

699
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: like are these haters of me and the fam anyway?

700
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: So it's really hard when there's also people that were

701
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: once close, especially from my kids, Like why would you

702
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: even want anyone to think that of your mom? You know?

703
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: For my kids. That's what's hard for me. And then

704
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: I get really protective over my mom my. You know. Yeah,

705
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I get that, you know, but I handle it all internally,

706
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'll speak out and try.

707
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: I just I'm not that type to just go back

708
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: and forth on the Internet. I live my life on

709
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: a fucking reality show. I'm like, there's social media everywhere.

710
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: Like I'm just not the type just say I mean

711
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: the ship that I know and the ship that I've

712
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: been through. Oh I bet it's you know, it's wild,

713
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'm just not the type to be like what

714
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: does that do to your trust? Because how do you like?

715
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's somebody is supposed to be closest

716
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: to you, like you go and it's not just that's

717
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: just knye. I'm sure people in your life have disappointed you,

718
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: and um, people have actually been so good to me. People.

719
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: I've never had anybody really betray me but a few exes.

720
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: But the people and my my friends are the best

721
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: friends in the entire world. My sisters like I have

722
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: hit the fucking jackpot of friends and family and my

723
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: sisters like and I think like karmically, it's just all lessons.

724
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: It's just all like, I'm I'm okay with it all.

725
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 1: What about love where you would love? I know things

726
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: with the last guy with Pete didn't work out, But

727
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: it was nice to see you. You look happy for

728
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: a little while, like you were having fun and light um,

729
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: like you were enjoying dating. Yeah, I was, And that's

730
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: that's what you know, that what it was just so

731
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: new and I didn't know what dating was for so long.

732
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: You know, I've been in a relationship for like almost

733
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years, you know, twelve years or something like that,

734
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: And I don't know, there's like a part of me

735
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: that's like, oh my god, is everyone going to be scared?

736
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: Because you know, I don't have the easiest X and

737
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's fair for me to

738
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: ever put someone in a situation or bring a new

739
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: person in that could be super innocent. So there is

740
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: that side of me that's just like, oh my god.

741
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: But then there's a side of me that's like, wait,

742
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 1: what why would I ever have to like live that way?

743
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: And I just wanna I'm definitely in my fun zone

744
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: right now. I would say I'm in my fund my

745
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: fund um now. Were like, can you like so what sucks?

746
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Is like so if you it's just all has to

747
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: be like at a private house party or a house

748
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: dinner or like you know, and then sometimes you're so

749
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: stuck in your zone working that you know, Chloe and

750
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: I were like, we're going to Miami. We're just going

751
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: to Miami. Where can I gos? I was like, oh,

752
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: they're on one out there, but m And then you're like,

753
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: what am I doing. There's no one out here, so

754
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: what's the point. But here, here's what I will. But

755
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: the pool for you, it's very got to be very small.

756
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 1: It is either somebody that's comfortable standing, that's too comfortable

757
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: willing to deal with all the things that comes with

758
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: being him, and also somebody that will keep your interests

759
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: in your But my person will be able to handle

760
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: all of it. And that I do know. And now

761
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm a brave in God love, I have faith and

762
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: all of it, and he will bring me my perfect

763
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: person that we will. I'm like the biggest hopeless romantics.

764
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: So I just I know that. I just know that

765
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: my person can can deal and my person will love it,

766
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: and and same with me and whoever that is. Do

767
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: you break up? I do? Yeah? I mean I pray

768
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: every night with my kids, even if I'm you know,

769
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: out of town. They have to call me and we

770
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: say our purse together over FaceTime. Um. They just like that.

771
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: They can't go to bed without that. Um. But yeah,

772
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I do. What do you pray for? Just health and happiness,

773
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: mostly in calmness. Sometimes sometimes I need a little bit

774
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: out in that area. Yeah, I'm sure in peace, peace,

775
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: But I really do as much as there's the craziness

776
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: around me. I do feel at peace. Good for you.

777
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: I do, And I think that is like I always say,

778
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: calmness is my superpower. It is. But I do have

779
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: a deep, deep sense of peace. And like I said,

780
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: like I'm free from all of like the stuff, like

781
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: none of that matters, Like I'm free from I'm at peace, Kim,

782
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: that is absolutely I didn't. We talk about superpowers a

783
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: lot on the podcast, and so I was thinking about yours.

784
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: But it really has to be calmness, right because there's

785
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: no way you operate this ship without having that superpower.

786
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: Like everyone says, the world can be coming to an end,

787
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: and they'll call me and I'll be like, you, guys,

788
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we're gonna do. Sit down, I'm

789
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: going to handle it. Let me go out there, I'll

790
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: fix it. Let me let me fix the world coming

791
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: to it. Um. You might's a lot of bad ship

792
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: going on in the world right now. There is, there is,

793
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: but you just I mean, like, of course I'll have

794
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: my moments because I just happened to be having like

795
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: a rough week. But then like even how I cried earlier,

796
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: it's like I was feeling that because I was emotional

797
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: on the way here for other reasons. Let yourself feel that,

798
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm not going to say cut that, you know

799
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like that's how I was feeling then,

800
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: and now I can talk about if I were just

801
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 1: talk about the same thing that we just talked about,

802
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I would be totally together. You know. So it's like,

803
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 1: let yourself go through what you need to go through.

804
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: Don't always be super calm when you don't when you're

805
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: feeling those emotions. But also like control your emotions. I'm

806
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: really good at control my emotions and going through them

807
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: when I need to. But also, yeah, but there's something

808
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: to learn in that about like let it go, let

809
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: it go through you, but then let it go. Like

810
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person that will fight in

811
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: a relationship and bring up the same thing a million times.

812
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: When I let it go, I let it go. I mean,

813
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: if they're going to start with me, I definitely didn't forget.

814
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, But I'm not on a daily basis

815
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: like beating you up about something that we can't change

816
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: that we've been through. You know, that's just not who

817
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: I am. Because that energy to hold on for me

818
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: is worse. It's it's for me, not for you. I'm

819
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: not giving you the easy way out and forgetting it,

820
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: not not torturing you about it. But if you funk

821
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: with me, I will bring that outing. That is the

822
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: one thing I sometimes watch for you and I'd be like,

823
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: I wish you would pa a little more ship. Sometimes

824
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: I wish she would be like fuck you, or but

825
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: where does it stop? Because there's so many things to

826
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: say fuck you. There's so many things to say, not true,

827
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: not true, not true, not true, funk out of year,

828
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, Like sometimes I want to do that, and

829
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm brought to that point, but then I feel like, wait,

830
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: but then if I speak on this one, then are

831
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: they going to think all the other ones are not true?

832
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: Like then do I have to or are true? Then

833
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: do I have to go back and like bring up

834
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: every single thing because there's so many things. Sometimes I'm

835
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: the one thing. I have been tested so much this

836
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: year there has been the wildest ship that I even have,

837
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: like in conversations and d m s, like completely wild

838
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: if like someone will speak out and I'll have the

839
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: actual receipts and for me to sit on them has

840
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: shown I think this year, I've learned like restraint, and

841
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: I'll put them in my group chats and my girls

842
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: will be like stop, don't. But so there are times

843
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: when I really want to get out there sometimes, but

844
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: then it just depends on my like I have to

845
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: be in like a silly mood just two more talk

846
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: about dumb headlines. But I've realized, like for my soul

847
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: and my energy, it's not worth it. Totally get it,

848
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: and there's no way I can say like sometimes I'd

849
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: just be like, Okay, you know this isn't right, but

850
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: do you want me to say some other things? Like

851
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Speaker 1: I just I don't know if I'd be able to

852
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Speaker 1: stop if I started with how I am my my personality,

853
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: so I just silence. Is there any other super powers

854
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: that you see other people that you admire or that

855
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: you don't have your of your own that you feel like,

856
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: I wish I could be like that person. I wish

857
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: I had that thing because I admire your calmness. Thank you.

858
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: I think I'm a pretty level headed person and I

859
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: tend to be like black and white and strategic and

860
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, and and thoughtful, but like, I don't um,

861
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that I could deal with the level

862
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: of energy because I'm also really affected by energy. So like,

863
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: if I could be in a good mood and if

864
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: I go in a room and three people's energy is terrible,

865
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: it literally will affect me, which that won't affect me

866
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: in your space. You couldn't live You couldn't live this

867
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: life if that happened to you, because then every day

868
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: you're in the subject to that. So that isn't that

869
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: is a superpower that I admire that because I don't

870
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: think it's just about calmness. I also think it's about

871
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 1: you being able to kind of protect your energy from

872
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: everybody else's. But I wasn't always like that. You learned it,

873
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: you built it, you know what. I was always calm.

874
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: I would stop sometimes, But I think that there comes

875
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: a time in your life when you have to choose

876
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: yourself from your family, from your friends, from the energy

877
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: around you, and you have to find like what really

878
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: makes you happy and work in relationships, in the activities

879
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: that you do everything. And once you find what that

880
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 1: is and you choose yourself, doesn't mean then you can't

881
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: then go, you know, get back to everybody else. But

882
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: I always put other people in front of me. Always

883
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: m hm. And I think like a few years ago,

884
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really going to this is that

885
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: moment over my kid, over everybody? Yeah, And once I did,

886
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: Now I can dive deeper into my kids. Now I

887
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: can dive deeper into my sister bond relationships. Now I

888
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: can dive deeper into my relationship with my brother and

889
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: my friends and you know, my mom, like you just

890
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a generic experiences, I don't

891
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's a peaceful place to

892
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: be and nothing will really of course, they'll be like

893
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: emergency situations and how to figure out what to do

894
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: and say and you know this Hollywood life or whatever.

895
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: But like when you ask me, do I admire like

896
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: other qualities, like no, because if I'm supposed to have those,

897
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: those will come to me and those will be the

898
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: lessons that I'm going to learn. I'm like so at

899
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: peace with like who I am? Good for you? Like

900
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: I really am. And that's why even dating and like relationships,

901
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: it's like if someone comes into my life that brings

902
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: good energy, so fun. If someone doesn't, I'm very direct

903
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: and I'm like this just isn't gonna work, you know,

904
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: and but you're still like a romantic You're still hopeful,

905
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 1: and you're still you didn't let because it's a divorce

906
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: does things. There are men who have been divorced for

907
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,439
Speaker 1: ten years that haven't been able to pull themselves out

908
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: of that kind of what it does to people. They

909
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: say that, I think that's like divorce, death, move was

910
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: like the most dramatic things for people to have to

911
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: go through. Yeah, I'm always hopeful, Like I'm so hopeful

912
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: that like and maybe it's like a ridiculous fantasy, but

913
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: like that all find my perfect person and and I mean,

914
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll get married again, you know,

915
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: but I'll have my forever like partner, you know that,

916
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: Like I know that there's gonna be like he's coming,

917
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: He's coming, absolutely, but I'm just like at peace and

918
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to have fun until that happens. What do

919
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: you think moving forward? The next phase for you? It's

920
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: like what is the what is your purpose in the

921
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: world right now? And how do you want to be remembered?

922
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: And I think my next face, I think it's this

923
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: like at peace phase that I hope last forever, and

924
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: I know I know that it's in me and once

925
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: it's in you, I don't think it'll ever leave. I

926
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 1: just want to continue to just be a good person

927
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: and be a kind person. But as far as my purpose,

928
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: I just hope that like people can realize that, like

929
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you're at in your life, or

930
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: how old you are, or you know what you thought

931
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: your career path was going to be, you can really

932
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: change that at any time you want, and you can

933
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: really do whatever you want to do. I had never

934
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: dreamed in a million years that I would go through

935
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: with law school. And if you support yourself, if you

936
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: surround yourself with people that really support you and like

937
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 1: their eyes light up at the idea of helping you

938
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: and are so all your friends, you should feel that

939
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: way about your friends. Like I look at my friends

940
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: and I light up when they are doing amazing things

941
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: and I'm so proud of them and I'm so excited

942
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: for them. You're not like a hater friend. They're absolutely not,

943
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: And you can't. I don't even have those in my life.

944
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: I do not have one hater friend in my life.

945
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I don't have time for it. I don't have room

946
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: for it. Did you have to clean out a little

947
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 1: bit as you grew yeah, for sure, but like my

948
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: core has always been everyone that's been in my life

949
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: has been there for I mean, even my newer friends

950
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: ten fifteen plus. You know, Like I just think you

951
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: have to treat people right. You can't really focus on

952
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, even if it comes in sometimes like negativity,

953
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and just surround yourself with people and you'll you'll get

954
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 1: to where you need to go. But I think it's

955
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 1: like I never dreamed that I would go to law

956
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: school and really do it. I thought about it, I

957
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: loved it, I was into it. But the fact that

958
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm doing it that's why I won't give up, because

959
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't want my kids to give up on something

960
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 1: that they really want that end result. It's hard, it's

961
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: really fun hard. It's a barely time consuming. I don't

962
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: have time for it, but you make time for what

963
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: you want, and I want it and I'm gonna do it.

964
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what you do in that space.

965
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 1: Thank you. It's been inspiring to watch you build your band,

966
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: brand and your business. But I think in that space

967
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: it's going to really be interesting to see the work.

968
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just want to help people like life

969
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: just and when you put it in that perspective, it's

970
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,440
Speaker 1: hard to like worry about the details of the nuances

971
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: of the bullshit when you're like really trying to do

972
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: something powerful and important and yeah, I get that, you know,

973
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: How can I be worried about some stuff? Like I

974
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: really there's people that are really going through things and

975
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: if you can, you know, change their lives and help out,

976
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: Like that's all I want to do. Yeah, kim Yeah, Kimmy,

977
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: and look fly doing it. Yes, that that I will

978
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: always care about real life