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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio. Did we settle on a pull question? Mclov Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we ask which team should stick with their current quarterback?

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<v Speaker 1>Not who will, but who should? The forty nine Ers,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, the Falcons, and I put the Patriots in

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<v Speaker 1>there with Cam because of the rumors that they could

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<v Speaker 1>deal for Jimmy g I'm just wondering what the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>do because nobody thinks that they're not taking Zach Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>At what point do you lose the leverage of trading

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold that before the draft, I guess, or do

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<v Speaker 1>wait till after the draft to see how teams fared

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<v Speaker 1>in the draft. Chris Simms here to answer all those questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Talk Live co host. Let me start with

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious one. What does it mean to be a

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Shanahan quarterback? Chris Well, I think when you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a Kyle Shanahan quarterback, you're talking about a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who can process as an information, you know, at a

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<v Speaker 1>really quick rate, knows where to go with the ball

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<v Speaker 1>off of that decision making, and then has the athleticism

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<v Speaker 1>to run the boots and the play action passes. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think more than anything, it's being able to take

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<v Speaker 1>in the clues of what Shanahan can deliver to you

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<v Speaker 1>as a quarterback and go, listen, I'm a mad scientist.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got us in this formation, and I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna play one of these two defenses. If you just

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me and read this guy on this play,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get A and B open. You just gotta read

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<v Speaker 1>this guy and take to my coaching. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what really Kyle Shanahan looks for at the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>position more than anything. It looks like you doubled down

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<v Speaker 1>this morning on Mac Jones. You tweeted out Kyle Shanahan

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<v Speaker 1>gets the most out of quarterbacks who trust his is

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<v Speaker 1>to make the right reads. Matt Shop two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>passing Champ kirk Cousins in Washington. Matt Ryan twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>MVP Mac Jones is an ideal quarterback for that mold

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<v Speaker 1>more on par with Matt Ryan. Now is just a

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<v Speaker 1>report or an opinion? No, this is an opinion. You know, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle's a really good friend. There's no doubt he's not

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here telling me his draft plans and what he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks he's gonna do at number three or uh No,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not flat out asked him. Um, you know

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<v Speaker 1>I text him things Dan like congrats on the move,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, way to go happy, you know, hope it

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<v Speaker 1>all went the way you want. That's where that conversation goes. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Like am I I'm a good friend. We talk about

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<v Speaker 1>football a lot, and I would be shocked if I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a pretty good feel for what he likes

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<v Speaker 1>at the quarterback position. Okay, you've been tweeting, as Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan commented on your tweets. Now, I know he is

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<v Speaker 1>not he is, and nor did I think he's even

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably oblivious to anything I've said or wrote on

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<v Speaker 1>social media or anything like that. But you know, this is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty years of me knowing a guy, a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that, yes, I talk a lot of football with

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<v Speaker 1>all of the time. Right, We talk about quarterbacks a lot, offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>regular season, whenever it may be. And I would just

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time thinking it's not Mac Jones at

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<v Speaker 1>number three. I really would, one because of what Shanahan likes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then two you know, yeah, I'm taking it into

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know, I think Zach Wilson's a number

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<v Speaker 1>one quarterback in the draft. But I still think Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence is going to go to Jacksonville. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets will go to Zach Wilson now totally one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent confirmed after that workout on Friday, and then when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at it and go all right, now, Shanahan

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<v Speaker 1>at forty nine ers or at three, that to me

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<v Speaker 1>is Mac Jones to make that move. We know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback, but I just think fields and lands have

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<v Speaker 1>work in front of them. There's some polish, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some things they need to work on, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't trade up nine spots to get a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that has things to work on. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's Mac Jones. Okay, So what's Jimmy G's future.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think, I mean, they got two options. They

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<v Speaker 1>could keep him right and then go where I will

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<v Speaker 1>wait for Mac Jones to, you know, come along and

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<v Speaker 1>give him a year on the bench. But I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said to Mike Floria to day, that's risky.

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<v Speaker 1>The forty nine ers, you see them, they got a

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<v Speaker 1>good team, they almost they were in the playoff hunt

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<v Speaker 1>last year. But the most injuries in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. So you go with Jimmy Garoppolo and what

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<v Speaker 1>go you know, twelve and four or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that do to your thnumber three pick? So

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<v Speaker 1>I would think ultimately that Jimmy g is put on

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<v Speaker 1>the trade block and that Mac Jones would be the

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<v Speaker 1>starter or whoever they pick at number three going into

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty one season, twelve and five, maybe because

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<v Speaker 1>they're seventeen. You're right, I gotta get I used to

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<v Speaker 1>say seven and nine, eight, eight. If all goes well,

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<v Speaker 1>nine and seven, I gotta change. Chris oh Man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do the Jets do? At what point do they

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<v Speaker 1>lose their leverage here in trying to get something for

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Darnold if they're taking Zach Wilson, right, I heard you.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you say that before I came out. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good question. I mean, you don't hurt your leverage

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<v Speaker 1>as long as there's more than one team that can

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<v Speaker 1>get involved in the conversation as far as trading. Right

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I can look at two teams to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's legitimate and maybe there's three teams because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know. I don't think the Russell Wilson staying

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle is one hundred percent. Yet I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should watch these final five weeks. But I look at

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina and the Denver Broncos as two places where I

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<v Speaker 1>still think are looking for a quarterback. I do. Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hey, we know they've given us all the

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<v Speaker 1>signals that they're trying to find an upgrade from Teddy Bridgewater.

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<v Speaker 1>The Denver Broncos, I'd be hard pressed with Vic Fangios,

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<v Speaker 1>but probably on the line, you're just gonna roll out

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<v Speaker 1>the red carpet and go I'm going down with Drew Locke.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. I'd at least have somebody there to compete

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<v Speaker 1>or Okay, he didn't play well the first three weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>here's another guy. So that would be the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would look at right now, because yes, I do think

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets are gonna go Zach Wilson and hopefully they

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<v Speaker 1>can have a market for Sam Darnin and get what

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<v Speaker 1>they what they see is worth for him. So if

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<v Speaker 1>we have quarterbacks going one two three, one out one

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<v Speaker 1>two three four with Atlanta, a lot of people think that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of people in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>that think Atlanta is hot on Trey Lance and might

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<v Speaker 1>take him number four. I mean again, I wouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not you know, I've discussed with you a little.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with Trey Lance there is some elite traits,

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt. I mean, his speed and his arm

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<v Speaker 1>strength are wow. But there's a lot of other things

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<v Speaker 1>that I question, and that to me doesn't scream the

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<v Speaker 1>number four pick. But I think if you talk to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in the know around the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>they think Atlanta's hot on Trey Lance. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm never gonna be a mad at a team if

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<v Speaker 1>they think that's their guy and they're sold on that.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I would just go, what what are you

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<v Speaker 1>sold on? Quite yet? There? He didn't play last year,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't throw a lot the year before, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>some things in the throwing that I would say I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't feel one hundred percent comfortable with right now too.

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<v Speaker 1>And you still think Zach Wilson is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a better pro than Trevor Lawrence. I do, yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, we talk about the Pro day right

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. I mean, it was wowing the degree of

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty of those throws. And then the way in which

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<v Speaker 1>he passed the test was wowing not to say other

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks can do that. I get that, you know. But

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<v Speaker 1>but but here's the thing. This is where people are

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<v Speaker 1>missing this. They're going, you know, I hear somebody, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a workout. Who cares, it's it's no big deal. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I would say is when the film matches

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<v Speaker 1>the workout, then you go, oh, okay, wait, there's something there.

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<v Speaker 1>I see all these throws on film, and now he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't a workout and does it easily. Second of all,

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<v Speaker 1>there's maybe more pressure to doing it in that environment

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<v Speaker 1>than there is a game. A game, you're reacting, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing what you have to do. At a workout, you're

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<v Speaker 1>basically putting yourself out there, you know, and you miss

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<v Speaker 1>four or five of those throws, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, whoa. You know, I'm trying to be cool

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<v Speaker 1>and do these high level throws, and here I have

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<v Speaker 1>I've thrown five or six in completions, and that can

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<v Speaker 1>you know, snowball out of control. But this guy's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>They just went at it ain't gonna happen. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter if it was so easy. Why doesn't everybody do

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<v Speaker 1>this at their pro day? Right? That's where I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say. So there was great confidence that even on

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<v Speaker 1>his worst day, they felt like he could still pass

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<v Speaker 1>it with flying colors. And I think that's what maybe

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<v Speaker 1>people are missing. Not to say it translates a definite awesomeness.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, you got to play the game on the field,

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<v Speaker 1>but that still was an awesome workout. Talking to Chris Sims,

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Time Talk Live co host with Mike Florio. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'll go back to Zach Wilson. You know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the impact of Patrick Mahomes. That workout was to say,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the new quarterback Mahomes those were this a

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<v Speaker 1>new phrase, Mahomesian throws. That that's what Zach Wilson did.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave you Mahomesian throws. I agree, that's the Mahomes effect.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Mahomes, the Rogers, you know. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like Mahomes affected Josh Allen, you know, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see, yeah, more and more of these quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be this type of football player, you know

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<v Speaker 1>one because the game's wide open right now. In a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of ways, the quarterbacks are as talented as we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. And what it really shows, and like we

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<v Speaker 1>see with Mahomes on the field, and I think was

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Wilson showing you is going, hey, yeah, I can

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<v Speaker 1>hit the open curl in the open out route. But

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<v Speaker 1>look when it's third and fourteen and we're not playing

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<v Speaker 1>our best, look what else I can do? Oh the

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<v Speaker 1>past protection is not good or nobody's open. Look, I

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<v Speaker 1>could still get it done, guys, even when things aren't perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think you're totally right. That is the Mahomesian effect.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would think as the years ago, we're to

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<v Speaker 1>see more and more of these type of workouts and

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks come up the ranks. I also wonder about wide

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<v Speaker 1>receivers here with Davante Smith Jamar Chase that it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like jamarch I was told from two months ago a

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<v Speaker 1>scout said he like Jamar Chase over Davonte Smith. Miami

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<v Speaker 1>is now out of that position. To take Davanta Smith

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<v Speaker 1>at number three doesn't mean they still can't but handicap

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<v Speaker 1>those two. If you're the Bengals, do you reunite Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase with Joe Burrow? And if you're Miami, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to reunite Davontae Smith with two A Tonga Bloa.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm thinking about it either way. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>like you talked about, I think Miami, they did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job of kind of putting themselves in a spot

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<v Speaker 1>where you basically go, oh, they should get at least

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<v Speaker 1>one of those two guys no matter what at number six,

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<v Speaker 1>or Kyle Pitts out of Florida or Kyle Pitts out

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<v Speaker 1>of Farida, right, which is not going to be bad either. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to make that pick going or make

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<v Speaker 1>that trade going. Wait, you know out of there's three

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<v Speaker 1>guys like that will be happy with that are right there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, DeVante Smith and Jamar Chase. I went into

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<v Speaker 1>the process Dan thinking Jamar Chase was gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>clear number one. When I watched the film, I went

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA Like that was? That was? You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like buy a hair. I would take Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase over Damante Smith. It's like one A and one B.

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<v Speaker 1>They're both really talented football players. I do wonder what

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals at five. You know, they have decent receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt. They got Higgins at the top. Of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round last year. You know, pass protection is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing for them too. Would they go old line there?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It'd be interesting because they could add

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<v Speaker 1>another weapon to the arsenal and be real scary that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think at least as assures that the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins get a weapon there. And I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>can go wrong. You know, Dan, everybody talking about DeVante Smith?

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<v Speaker 1>Is he big enough and all that. I'd be concerned

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<v Speaker 1>if the film showed me something like that. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>his strength, his route, running his feet and then it

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<v Speaker 1>just pure speed are so special that I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see it being an issue. Do you care about

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a wide receiver as a quarterback? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like throwing to a really small receiver down the field

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<v Speaker 1>can be one thing that maybe you care about, right

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<v Speaker 1>like the John Browns of the world. Sometimes throwing them

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<v Speaker 1>a ball downfield when a guy's covered. That's not the

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<v Speaker 1>most comfortable thing in the world. But after that, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really think about it a whole lot. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you get to know these guys, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're radius is and where their window is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So where now you go, Oh wait, I'm throwing to

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, and that guy can catch a ball if

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<v Speaker 1>I throw at five feet behind him still, so let

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<v Speaker 1>me be safe and put it there and maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>gets it or no one gets it. That goes through

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<v Speaker 1>your your process when you're throwing as a quarterback in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, Dan, would you rather have a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>in the top ten or a tight end? Would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather have Jamar Chase or Kyle Pitts or Davanta Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather have the receiver. I would. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I like pits. They're great weapons. Everything they do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I mean guys like DeVante Smith and Jamaar

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<v Speaker 1>Chase are game changers. They're home run hitters. Oh, here's

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<v Speaker 1>a reverse seventy yards, here's a slant seventy yards. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>just run by that guy with pure speed seventy yards.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, fifty fifty balls with those type

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<v Speaker 1>of guys are really like seventy thirty type balls. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I favor those guys. By the way, mac

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<v Speaker 1>Jones was referred to as subtly athletic today not deceptively,

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<v Speaker 1>but but now he's subtly athletic. I think he's athletic

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<v Speaker 1>for the position. I don't know what, like, is the

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<v Speaker 1>context RG three or is he that measurables that are

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<v Speaker 1>similar to Andrew Luck? And I thought he Andrew Luck

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<v Speaker 1>was athletic. I agree, it's being way too over talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>hyped up of a thing. There's no doubt about it. Yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not Mahomes or Josh Allen or RG three. Jab

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<v Speaker 1>was Mahomes his forty yard dash? I you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. I would guess it was four

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<v Speaker 1>seven low four seven, So I'm gonna guess. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>was he deceptively athletic? No? You know, And again I'll

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<v Speaker 1>just I'll look it into it and go into it

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<v Speaker 1>too to go wait, you know, Oh, it's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Chris, what was Mahomes is forty eight? Forty? Oh? Man, Damn?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I might have to pass on him. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the hell with that. Hell with it. Mitchell Trubisky had

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<v Speaker 1>a faster forty yard dash, right, And there's nothing about

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<v Speaker 1>that says Mitchell Trubisky is better in the pocket or

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding people or doing anything like that. Again, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>DeVante Smith Dan. It's like if the film showed me

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<v Speaker 1>that there was issues there, I would go, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's too many great plays of movement in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>avoiding people then making great throws or just getting outside

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<v Speaker 1>the po to buy enough time to throw a great

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<v Speaker 1>ball on the run. He's every bit as athletic or

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<v Speaker 1>more athletic than Matt Ryan coming out and other quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's who he's going to be. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be Mahomes or Aaron Rodgers or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to talk to you, Chris is always We'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>an eye. We love your predictions and thanks man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, keep Fritzie off the cookies and cream. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he can't be doing that. He can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've seen his belly. He can't do that. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>this's a healthy it's a health bar. This is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>okay with this. Yeah, this is okay. Yeah, he used

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<v Speaker 1>to eat actual cookies and cream. Chris. This is a

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<v Speaker 1>protein bar. It's one of eight, three of the protein

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<v Speaker 1>bars in one sitting. That's what the problem is. Thank you. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, contain yourself. One's enough, Fritzie, come on, thanks man,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Chris. That's Chris Sims from Pro Football Talk Live.

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN College Basketball analyst kind enough to join us on

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<v Speaker 1>the program. Seth, good morning, Thanks for joining us. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me the most surprising Elite eight team. It's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be Oregon State. Now, it's fun because Ard State's won

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<v Speaker 1>nine of their last ten. But I mean that's a

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<v Speaker 1>team that came in basically sixth place in the Pac twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a team that was picked coming last preseason. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a team that kind of reinvented themselves along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a great story because Wayne Takele, the coach,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he had a son for four years, couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to the Answer Double Tournament. His son graduates, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, now they're in the tournament. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a great story. It's been fun to

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<v Speaker 1>watch and quite honestly, their team is playing really good basketball,

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<v Speaker 1>not pretty, but winning basketball. The team that didn't advance

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<v Speaker 1>that surprised you the most. The team that did advance

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise most is probably Florida State. Florida State was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a conundrum for maybe because I

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<v Speaker 1>look at Florida State and I see a team in

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<v Speaker 1>the land. I see a team that you know most

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<v Speaker 1>times defense didn't defend yesterday, obviously had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different ways to beat you. I just thought their game

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<v Speaker 1>playing yesterday was so different than what I expected. I

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<v Speaker 1>expect him to attack Michael Smith on the block, posting

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<v Speaker 1>up different guys because they have the versatility to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought defensively, early on, you saw that you could

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<v Speaker 1>not attack that ball screen by switching it. Michigan was

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<v Speaker 1>exploiting it, creating matchups all over to Florida. They never

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<v Speaker 1>made a change there. So I was disappointed in Florida State,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe selfishly because I'm a big letter at Hamilton fan

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<v Speaker 1>and I was hoping to see him get a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to play in the Final four because I think he

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<v Speaker 1>has a special team. How does Gonzaga lose if someone

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<v Speaker 1>can get Timmy and foul trouble, you get Timmy and tried.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta make Timmy defend. I think that's really important.

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<v Speaker 1>Certain things you got to do to beat Gonzaga. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take care of the ball, you gotta take goods.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to have a four. I can guard kiss

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<v Speaker 1>Burt and you've got him. Make Timmy defend if you

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<v Speaker 1>make Timmy defend, And that's why Michigan's an interesting matchup

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<v Speaker 1>for them, and even maybe USC. But you know Michigan

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<v Speaker 1>especially because if you make him defend and go ahead him,

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<v Speaker 1>which Michigan can do with the way they play offensively

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<v Speaker 1>playing through him, you take him out. They don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any really replacement for him. Now, look, they get a

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<v Speaker 1>shot up every fourteen seconds. They get the ball and

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<v Speaker 1>Kissburt every time. You should you think it's going in Sugs.

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the number one pick in the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>They play with incredible, incredible flow. But I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one way you can get after them is my

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<v Speaker 1>playing for the post. And I'm really interested to see

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<v Speaker 1>what USC does with their length and with the zone,

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<v Speaker 1>their ability to cover, the ability to get some extra shots,

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<v Speaker 1>their quickness. I mean, you're talking about Tima doviagers fifty

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<v Speaker 1>points a game in the paint and a team in

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<v Speaker 1>USC that allows the fewest points. It is the best

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<v Speaker 1>two point percentage defensive team in basketball. That will be

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of a game within the game that I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'll be interesting to watch. So you think Kissberg's

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<v Speaker 1>the number one overall pick instead of Kate Cunningham or

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think Sugs is the whole Sugs. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>So Sugs number one pick and Mobley Cunningham in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix there? Yeah, I think I would go I would

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<v Speaker 1>go Cunningham second, I would go Moble third or fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my concern with Mobley and I love him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love how hard he plays. I love the type

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<v Speaker 1>of team. Maybe is I love Do you need to

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<v Speaker 1>get that phone call? No? No, that's well, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of happens to the home office. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a fancy studio like you now. I'm just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in my office. Jake the Wonder Dog cannot answer the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anybody that you would stop the interview at

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<v Speaker 1>two inswer like if Bill is called, would you answer no? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I would actually ignore that. What I love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about is you know how the NCUBIS messed upon needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go? I keep on telling Bills ever, it's so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the job. Everyone wants you to take the job.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, it would solve two problems for me. Now, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Bills is the best. He's so much funny. He's so

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<v Speaker 1>he's so funny that he doesn't even realize he's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he's passionate, Yeah he is. And you know, everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>got a cause and this is this is something that's

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<v Speaker 1>important to him. But I think usc I wouldn't take

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<v Speaker 1>Mobili ahead of Kate. I think the balls and Kate's

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<v Speaker 1>County Hams. And now the one thing I don't Kate

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<v Speaker 1>Connie Hams not the athlete. Grant Hill is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people compare him to Grant Hill. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that now. I do see a lot of Jason Kidd

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<v Speaker 1>and Jail Sucks. That passing through his left hand off

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<v Speaker 1>that ball screen yesterday was out of this world. I

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<v Speaker 1>also love his toughness, I love his leadership. I think

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<v Speaker 1>his game just translates immediately into the NBA where he

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<v Speaker 1>could be a winning point guard. We're talking to Seth

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<v Speaker 1>Greenberg from the Mother's Ship. Indiana hires Mike Woodson, not

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring and coached in college I know there's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the legacy there being an IU player, But is Indiana Indiana?

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<v Speaker 1>Does Indiana know that Indiana is Indiana anymore? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they don't they I don't think they know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not Indiana anymore because they haven't been Indiana basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, since coach Night left. Really, if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at terms of the consistency of competing for a national championship. Here,

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I think Mike woods will have no problem

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<v Speaker 1>coaching college basketball. Coaching xes and oh's putting guys a

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<v Speaker 1>position to play to their strengths. The key is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be and look that not as a nice move

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<v Speaker 1>by the university. I don't know that's Mike Woodson's higher

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<v Speaker 1>or the university's higher. Because it's the university's high, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad move. Mike woos has got to have his

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<v Speaker 1>own staff. Now. I would sit with Mike Woodson in

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<v Speaker 1>the interview process and say, all right, coach, we have

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<v Speaker 1>no concerns about you coaching, but there's a business of

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball. You know. I don't know if he had

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<v Speaker 1>kids that play grassroots basketball, but you better have someone

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<v Speaker 1>who understands grassroots basketball. You better have someone who understands

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<v Speaker 1>the transfer portal. You better have someone who understands just

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<v Speaker 1>the day to day things you deal with as a

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball coach. Now, Juana Howard, his sons were heavily recruited.

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<v Speaker 1>He understood grassrooms basketball. He hired Phil Martelly to sit

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<v Speaker 1>on his bench to kind of help him navigate. Not coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because Latron hid think about the apprenticeship he spent, Spolstra, Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>the coaches he played for. That's not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. It's the day to day operation in dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the day to day static and minutia that goes

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<v Speaker 1>around being a head coach in college. It's just different

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<v Speaker 1>from the NBA. So I would in the interview process,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say, we got a guy to play for Night,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a guy to one championship. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that we can galvanize a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 1>that have him been here. Coaching is not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the issue. NBA pedigree, NBA coaching experience, all the

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<v Speaker 1>things young players are looking for today, what's your staff

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like? You're gonna have Fad Mountain and

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<v Speaker 1>coach Modin is great, But handing him that guy to

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<v Speaker 1>oversee him. He's a grown man, he's sixty three years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coached the best players in the world. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want a over your shoulder basically, or do you want

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that you chose to share this experience with

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<v Speaker 1>at Indiana? So I think he'll hire a former NBA

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<v Speaker 1>or a current NBA player development guy that wants to

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<v Speaker 1>get in college. You would think he would hire another

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<v Speaker 1>coach with college experience, probably have someone involved that has

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<v Speaker 1>ties to the university. But you know, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're always good as the players recruit and your players develop,

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<v Speaker 1>and part of recruiting is evaluation. I think Indiana is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go back to evaluating players that can play

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<v Speaker 1>and win. Like I thought that, like Matt Painter has

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out. Now here's my question for everyone. What

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Painter has done at Perdue. Is that good enough

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<v Speaker 1>for Indiana? How they perceived themselves? Now? Yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Indiana fast. I think they should be the

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<v Speaker 1>final foot I think Indiana fans or no are similar

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<v Speaker 1>even though they haven't had success to Kentucky. But since

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<v Speaker 1>they see those bands and then they think that somehow

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<v Speaker 1>they're entitled and it doesn't work. You know that this

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<v Speaker 1>these kids don't go gosh. I would love to play

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<v Speaker 1>for Indiana because whatever it's, that's not the way it works.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what's the style, who's the coach, who's going in

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<v Speaker 1>there with me? Do we have a chance to win?

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<v Speaker 1>And they might be there for one year? But that's

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that Indiana forgot who they were. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would have stayed with Tom Crean. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>if you agree, you know, but you know, look, this

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<v Speaker 1>is where they are. What about Texas? What's Texas going

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<v Speaker 1>to do? What Shaka Smart? Did he jump before he

0:25:35.040 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>was pushed? Yeah? I think he made the wise move up.

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<v Speaker 1>Shaka Smart to me, wasn't as it developed, wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>good fit because Shaka Smart as a guy that lights

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<v Speaker 1>up the room, Shaka Smarts. I got to coach this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's hearts, Chaka Smarts, his DNA and the DNA of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas in general just didn't fit. I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>I think going back to Milwaukee, going back to his

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<v Speaker 1>home state, going back to coaching the way he coached

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:04.040
<v Speaker 1>his VCU kids, going back to getting those type of

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<v Speaker 1>kids at Texas. You got to recruit the best player

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas. You gotta recruit the top five guys in

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>the country. You got to recruit certain guys. Shaka Smart

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<v Speaker 1>was better when he had Junkyard dogs. Shaka Smart was

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<v Speaker 1>better when you know they had played with a chip

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<v Speaker 1>on their shoulder. I never saw the Texas team play

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<v Speaker 1>with the passion and the energy that his VCU teams

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<v Speaker 1>played with. So I would like to see him go

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<v Speaker 1>back to his kind of his roots, of what made

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>him special as a coach. Now, guys that should take

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that job. Chris Beard's the number one guy. I go

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>watch Chris's team's practice, I speak to his team. His

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<v Speaker 1>energy is enthusiasm. But Chris beard situation and ownership in

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<v Speaker 1>Lubbick might be far greater than the ownership of people

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin. It's just a difference in the two communities.

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<v Speaker 1>If I couldn't get Chris Beard, I would look at

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Musselman. I would look at Bruce Pearl. I got

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<v Speaker 1>all that money if up, and I'm getting those guys raises.

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<v Speaker 1>But if I can get him, what do you need

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 1>a Texas You need someone to excite your fan base.

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 1>You need someone to create ownership. You need someone that

0:27:08.520 --> 0:27:11.399
<v Speaker 1>understands the use of social media. You need someone that

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<v Speaker 1>understands a playing style that people are going to be

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>excited to come watch. I would get the highest energy

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 1>winning coach that I can find that can infuse a

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<v Speaker 1>passion and an energy into the program. Moving forward, when

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 1>you were coaching, what's the best performance you ever saw

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 1>in terms of my team or digitalty mess performance against us?

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>The best performed well Handsborough Probably I wouldn't be talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you right now if he didn't rebound a misshot

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>on a free throw, and knock on anti end of

0:27:49.400 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>the a SEC tournament. It's kind of personal to personal

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to me. But the best performance episodes though you Jerry

0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Tarkanian's UNLV teams we played him two and three times

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>a year. That was you know, Greg Anthony, Larry Johnson

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and Ankles and Anderson Hunt and Stacy Agman. They dominated

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the game, the speed that they played with. Offensively, defensively,

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 1>they disrupted you, whether it was in their man with

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>it didn't let you run offense or the amiba. One

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite great stories, the stupidity of Seth Greenberg

0:28:24.040 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of stories of the sty of Steth Greenberg,

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<v Speaker 1>is my first year as a head coach. I had

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<v Speaker 1>invited the president University of President President mccraig to sit

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<v Speaker 1>on my bench for our first UNLV game. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a good thing. We were down thirty at

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the head games. I gave a great free game speech.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>He was all in it. He was right there with

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<v Speaker 1>us down thirty at the half. First year head coach.

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I look at the end of the bench, We're down thirty.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>And not only did I know we were losing the game.

0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was losing my job. But I survived that,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness. But that UNLV team was just different offensively.

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<v Speaker 1>This gonzag A team is just different. Will they be

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<v Speaker 1>viewed as one of the great teams of all time

0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 1>if if they they run the schedule here? Yeah they should,

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>because so a few teams have been able to do that,

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>especially in recent history. Now people are gonna say, look,

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 1>they played in West Coast Conference. People gonna say they

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:18.360
<v Speaker 1>are playing against a different group of players. I mean,

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:20.360
<v Speaker 1>think about I was talking to this conversation with Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Well today. You know, Jay Wills do great duke teams

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 1>are we're juniors and seniors. You know we have some

0:29:28.360 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 1>good junior and senior teams, but the best teams in

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 1>college basketball, or a lot of teams in college basketball

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:40.600
<v Speaker 1>are sophomore and freshmen driven. The college basketball has gotten

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>younger now. Look Bill Nova won with upper classmen. Obviously,

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina of the Year they won one upper cosmen,

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>and what looks like Gonzaga or Baylor or Michigan can

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>win with upper classman. Yeah, you can win with upper classmen.

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>But the very best dudes, the guys that you know

0:29:57.640 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>are translating into the NBA and are killing in the

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>NBA today. Those guys are all leaving before their junior years,

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>so they're not playing against the same level. Yet. I

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>look at this team offensively and it's just as a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball purist, it's beautiful basketball. The flow that they have,

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:22.320
<v Speaker 1>they don't reset. It's modern day basketball. It's got a

0:30:22.360 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>little European tint to it in terms of the stylistic

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>but so does the NBA. Now it's positionalist basketball. The

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.480
<v Speaker 1>ball moves, it doesn't get stuck. They don't reset. You

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>don't see a high ball screen with ten seconds left

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>on the clock. It's transition boom. The ball's moving. There's

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>great spacing, there's random screens, there's random on and off

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the ball. It's just there. They are different. I do

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>think that Michigan's got a shot at them, and I

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>do think that Baylor's got a shot at them. I

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>think those two teams have the greatest because Baylor's got

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>the best backcourt at college basketball. Seth, great to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you again, and good luck with billas. Okay, I

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>have no pay Thank you bad. That's Seth Greenberg from

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the Mother's Ship. This interview brought you by Capitol One.

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>What's in your wallet? We'll take a break. We'll give

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>you our best and worst of the weekend right after this.

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.640
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0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.280
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0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.480
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0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.000
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0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.920
<v Speaker 1>now retired. He's now an analyst. He's a broadcaster. He's

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Drew Brees who joined us on joins us on a program,

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Drew. How are you? Damn? I'm good man,

0:31:36.760 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm good? You're an analyst? Now, yeah,

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess that's the first time I've I've been introduced

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>that way. So I just got to let that sink

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>in for a second. But former quarterback, that's weird. I don't.

0:31:56.760 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I actually think the I think the transition is pretty natural,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think that you know, you play, you

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>play long enough, which man, I had the chance to

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>play twenty years right quarterback in the National Football League,

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>never in mid Wiless dreams, So I think I'd have

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that opportunity certing the opportunity to play that long. But um,

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, you basically go from the way that you

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 1>prepare for a game and then actually go out and

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>execute that plan as a quarterback, and you now transition

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>into a position where you're basically doing the same thing,

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>but you're just instead of actually doing it, you're just

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about it, you're describing it. You're still you're

0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>still studying film the same way. You're still anticipating what's

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>going to happen, you know, based on what you're watching.

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.720
<v Speaker 1>And I think at the end of the day, this

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is a really fun opportunity, a great opportunity for me

0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:54.200
<v Speaker 1>to just show my love and passion for the game

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<v Speaker 1>of football in a different way and maybe a way

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that connects with fans even more. From the perspect that.

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I want to make it fun.

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to make it educational. UM and and exciting.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, let me let me give you your first

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>question as an analyst. Who should be the starter at

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>quarterback for the Saints? You know what, it'll be interesting. UM.

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I think however, that you know, competition U is kind

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of laid out or plays out. Um. I think both

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.160
<v Speaker 1>those guys you don't have some unique skill sets. UM.

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, obviously Jamis and Taysom are different styles of quarterback. UM.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 1>And whatever offense is run, I think you you know,

0:33:43.400 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just like you would do for any quarterback. You you

0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>make the adjustments within the framework of the offense to

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>fit the skill set that you're dealing with. You know,

0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>I will never let you get by if I was

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on Football Night in America with that answer. Well, I've

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>got I really like both those guys. I think they

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>both have the ability to be really good NFL quarterbacks

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and so then it's just a matter of, Hey, they

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 1>just happened to be in the same place right now,

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, so we'll see how it plays out. But

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Taysom has proven he can win games. I think Jamis,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, leaving camp are coming to us spending a

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>year in our system. I think he's developed a new

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.879
<v Speaker 1>level of confidence and ability to run our system. So

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>it'll be interesting to see. Did you realize the impact

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:30.399
<v Speaker 1>you had on Jamis because he got really emotional when

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>he was asked about, you know, being there in New

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Orleans with you. Yeah, you know that was man, that

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>was humbling. We had a great QB room man. We

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.799
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of fun together. I always took it

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:49.919
<v Speaker 1>as a great responsibility to help help young guys, help

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>help the guys that we're in our room. I know

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>that some guys maybe take a different approach, you know,

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe they look at it as this is the guy

0:34:58.800 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>who's coming in trying to take my and so I'm

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>not I'm not going to extend any help or advice

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>or guidance. Um. I took a very different approach because

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I knew how many veteran quarterbacks as I was coming

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:16.040
<v Speaker 1>up helped me and mentored me. And I can't tell

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>you how much confidence that gave me and really how

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>that helped guide me through through my early years. You know,

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>when I when I had some struggles, and so I've

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>always kind of made it a commitment that if any

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback reached out to me or was in my

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>room with the Saints, man I was, I was going

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.239
<v Speaker 1>to do everything I could to help them be the

0:35:36.239 --> 0:35:38.399
<v Speaker 1>best that they could be. And I did. I tried

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>to do that for Jamis. Yeah, your first game, you

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>came in and replaced Doug Flutie. I believe right, yep,

0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 1>who was that Drew Breese back then? How different is

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:56.800
<v Speaker 1>he than this Drew Breeze? Now? Oh, man, light years

0:35:57.120 --> 0:36:00.879
<v Speaker 1>You know you don't what's amazing thing to me? Now?

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean I've watched our offense evolved right with the

0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Saints from two thousand and six until now,

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, so fifteen years of evolution. I mean, is

0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>it is the complexities of what we are doing now

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>are light years different than back then my first year

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>with the in the Saints offense, Like I went back

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:26.880
<v Speaker 1>and looked at a call sheet from our very first

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 1>game against the Cleveland Browns in two thousand and six.

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Give give give me an example here of what the

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 1>call would have been back then. Well, so, for example,

0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>like the most basic formation, the most basic protection, the

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>most basic play concept, gun read right twenty four scan

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 1>why Flutie. And by the way, that why Flutie. That's

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 1>a concept that everybody in the NFL runs, But when

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I was with the Chargers, it was one of Doug

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Flutie's favorite play. So we nicknamed it Flutie because we

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>were starting to transition to some no huddle stuff and

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:09.600
<v Speaker 1>we needed code words, so we code worded a concept flutie,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:11.439
<v Speaker 1>and we were the first ones to do that because

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 1>Doug Flutie was on our team. Well, then you have

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>coaches that end up going to different places, you know,

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>from there and taking that terminology. So I'd be willing

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to bet there's probably about sixty eight teams in the

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>league that actually run flutie and call it flutie, so plenty.

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.799
<v Speaker 1>How those things just kind of spread. Give me the

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>most complicated call you ever had. Well, so it'd be like,

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 1>all right, so boogie the green left slot. Let's go

0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ex short tight past thirty seven, buster, nudge, why footie,

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>sting z spear kill fifty three tight and left. So like,

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the terminology can be endless, you know. And here's the

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>worst part is that, so that's that play call, and

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>now you're in allowed state, and let's say the headset

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:03.759
<v Speaker 1>cuts off after the coach says, we'll get a green

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>left right, Like, you don't realize how often that stuff happens,

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, And or then play cocks going down and

0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you just have to men, you are like thinking on

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the fly. You're having to just pick up, you know,

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>bits and pieces and put it all together. And oh,

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 1>by the way, maybe it's a different personnel group in

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the huddle. You know, that was a such a specific thing.

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>And somebody you know, tweaked an ankle and now they're

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.680
<v Speaker 1>on the sideline and other guy's any you're getting team

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 1>coached up on what his split is. It's a minus

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 1>two split. It's not an outside edge split. Man. There's

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>so much stuff is happening and so fast that man,

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of a free for all at times.

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:43.359
<v Speaker 1>But man, that's that's what you love about the game.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>It's what makes it fun and exciting. Never a dull moment.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>What'd you keep from your last game? What's my what?

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:53.520
<v Speaker 1>What did you keep from your last game? What did

0:38:53.520 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>I keep? Yeah, uniform everything, the memories, memories of my

0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>kids on the field after the game probably was the

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>most significant part of that. UM so nothing nothing, um tangible,

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, from like a jersey or cleats or anything

0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 1>like that. It was I mean, listen, you don't It's

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>not like you just wake up one day and say, oh,

0:39:19.600 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna retire today, you know. I mean,

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.879
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a that's a process. Yeah, that's a couple

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>of year process that you begin thinking about how how

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 1>that's going to happen. And you knew before that game

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>started if you lose to the Buccaneers that that's your

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:34.960
<v Speaker 1>last game. Well, I knew it was my last home game,

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, because we were going to go on the

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>road and play in the playoffs and you know, the

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Packers and then hopefully onto the super Bowl. But um

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so I knew it was my last home game. You know.

0:39:44.480 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>There's several significance with that. Anyone, you didn't want to

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want to leave the field. Though. With Brady,

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>did it help in any way that you if you're

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>going to lose a game, you lose to Brady or

0:39:54.800 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>is that the last person you want to lose too? Well, didn't.

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to lose period, you know. I mean

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>considering that you're playing against a guy like him who

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I have a great relationship with and you know, we

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>go way back. You know, we played against each other

0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>in college, right, and so we've kind of been on

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 1>this journey, you know, uh together in a lot of ways.

0:40:16.280 --> 0:40:21.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, we've kind of shared one of the same mentors. Um. So,

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just a ton of respect, you know. I know,

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 1>I think I think any any quarterback in the in

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:33.959
<v Speaker 1>the NFL, um, only only those guys can can really

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>understand what it takes to play that position and all

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the preparation and the just the time and the attention

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to detail on the headspace that that that that takes up, um,

0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:52.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, during the course of a season. But yeah,

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I've had the chance to play against

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>them a lot of times, three times this year, you know,

0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 1>so that we've got a great relationship, and obviously we

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:05.959
<v Speaker 1>know what kind of the player he is. Drew Joins

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>is on behalf of a Copper compression, the number one

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>best seller on Amazon in the personal care category. Are

0:41:12.640 --> 0:41:15.160
<v Speaker 1>you gonna be in the backyard throwing footballs with uh

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 1>fellow Hall of famers here soon? Yeah? Are you on

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>the other team? Because far gets Jerry Rice and I'd

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>never understood that, like that's not fair. I was I

0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, this would be like the uh, you know,

0:41:31.640 --> 0:41:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the Battle of the Battle of the copper compression products,

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. But I just I need to go choose.

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.879
<v Speaker 1>I need to go choose my receiver. He chose Jerry Rice.

0:41:40.920 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a pretty good one. Um, I'm gonna

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna have tryouts. I'm gonna conduct the

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 1>copper compression tryouts. I'm gonna I'm gonna pull I'm gonna

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>pull some guys, you know, pull some guys out of

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 1>their living rooms and have a combine. Have a comb combine.

0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm saying. Yeah, going to be like a

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 1>mini combine. I got to choose my wide receiver, um

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>from from History to take on Brett Farve and uh

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and Jerry Rice and then and then and then the

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 1>random guys that are you know, just in the park. Yeah,

0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>you know Tom from UPS is out there that I

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.960
<v Speaker 1>feel bad for him. Tom from Ups is out there

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.919
<v Speaker 1>trying to cover Jerry Rice. I mean it's just not fair. Yeah, yeah,

0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, listen, you just takeaway the inside. That's that's

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:30.760
<v Speaker 1>what I would do. That's just takeaway this sli and

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>and then have somebody player with the top. Uh can

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>you how many broken ribs did you have? And they

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 1>are they all healed? Now? Yeah, I believe they're all healed.

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I had I had eleven. I had eight on the

0:42:41.800 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 1>left side, three on the right. Um. But I didn't

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.200
<v Speaker 1>even know you had that many ribbs. I didn't either.

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't know either. Yeah. Yeah, it was

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that was that was. That was a crazy deal. I

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 1>obviously never never felt anything like that, and yet at

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it wasn't. Um. I mean, it sounds crazy.

0:43:02.840 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>You're your mindset is such that, man, nothing's going to

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>take you off the field, you know, so, so you

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 1>don't even you don't even recognize the severity of anything

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.839
<v Speaker 1>because you're just you're pushing through. You're pushing through. And

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:17.120
<v Speaker 1>the eighth that I fractured on the left side were

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 1>in the Tampa the first Tampa game and not the

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>first Tampa game. The second Campa game was the Sunday

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 1>night game at Tampa. Second quarter, I kind of get

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:26.959
<v Speaker 1>slammed the ground on the left side, and I knew

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:28.759
<v Speaker 1>something was wrong. I mean, it was a feeling I

0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 1>hadn't had, you know, the wind gets knocked out of you.

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.680
<v Speaker 1>That happens a lot, but all of a sudden, I

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.440
<v Speaker 1>felt like, man, I'm having trouble breathing. I can't rotate.

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I had a hard time throwing the ball in the

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>second half of that game. I mean it was functional,

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>we got the job done, but um, you know, we

0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>win that game big, and but I know something's wrong.

0:43:46.480 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I wake up the next day, go to MRI. I

0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>got all these broken ribs, and it's like, all right, well,

0:43:51.120 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>let's just find a way to get to Sunday. I mean,

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that's that's really the saying amongst all NFL players, you know,

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.879
<v Speaker 1>find find a way to get to the next game,

0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:03.120
<v Speaker 1>you know. And so man training room rehabbed. I didn't

0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.399
<v Speaker 1>practice much that week. I just tried to get ready

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to practice on Friday that week, just and I was

0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 1>in I was in so much pain on Friday, and

0:44:10.280 --> 0:44:11.319
<v Speaker 1>so I was like, God, I don't know how I'm

0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna do this. And so it got out on Sunday,

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>and you felt actually decent going into that next game,

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>which was against the Niners. And then sure enough, in

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter of that game, I get thrown down

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>on the other side. And that's what fact of the

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>three ribs and then punctured along and that was So

0:44:26.680 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing to have to have all that going

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:30.880
<v Speaker 1>on on one side of your body, but then to

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.279
<v Speaker 1>have it on both sides. The problem at that point

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:36.040
<v Speaker 1>was as that game progressed. I mean, I finished the

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.759
<v Speaker 1>half and we took the lead, and I felt like

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.120
<v Speaker 1>we had the game in hand. But when you sit

0:44:41.160 --> 0:44:43.319
<v Speaker 1>at halftime for twenty five minutes and then come back

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>out and I couldn't rotate, I couldn't do anything. So

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:47.719
<v Speaker 1>I basually went to Seawan and like, man, I can

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.440
<v Speaker 1>throw the ball like fifteen yards right now. That's about it. So,

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think in my mind too, I was thinking,

0:44:54.640 --> 0:44:55.799
<v Speaker 1>all right, I know this is going to put me

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 1>out for a period of time. I could go out

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 1>there and make this thing work, or I could just

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:03.759
<v Speaker 1>shut it down. Let's win this game, which I felt

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 1>like we would anyway, and then try to make it

0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 1>back as quick as I could. Well, you don't have

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>to worry about that now. I don't think if you

0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>get any kind of rib damage, it'll be just from

0:45:14.239 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>your kids hugging hugging you, right, The only ribs will

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>be on the trigger. Girl, that's exactly right. It's the

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.399
<v Speaker 1>only ribbed I'm worried about right now. And how I'm

0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>seasoning those babies before I smoke them. Hey, h congrats,

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>good luck with copper Compression, the number one best seller

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.960
<v Speaker 1>on Amazon in the personal care category. Play nice with

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Brett Farvan Company, and then, uh, good luck on football

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:43.359
<v Speaker 1>night in America. That's right, Copper Compression is gonna help

0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:45.440
<v Speaker 1>keep me young. I can sling it around in the

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 1>yard of these these these future Hall of famers I

0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>got running around this house and your kids. Yeah, oh

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:54.279
<v Speaker 1>that's what you mean. Yeah, future whole of things. Yeah yeah,

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey did you pick up? Did you pick up on

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:58.640
<v Speaker 1>that one? Yes? So I did, Yeah, I did. It

0:45:58.640 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 1>took me a little while. It took me a little while.

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>That's why only pay. I played quarterback as a freshman

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:05.919
<v Speaker 1>in high school. That was as far as I got.

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>I love it all right, man, I hope so thank

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 1>you about that's Drew Brees. Yeah. I thought he was

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about future Hall of famers out in the backyard,

0:46:16.120 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and I realized he was talking about his kids. Yeah,

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a little slow, I'm sorry.