1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. 3 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson. It is Tuesday. 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: That means it is power ranking day around the league. 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: I think we're a battle on this one. A little bit. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: We might, we might might. I got Dan Hansis's power 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: rankings here from NFL dot Com. That's what I got 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: up here. So thirty two fight already, he's got the 9 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have to you get embarrassed like that. And 10 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: they weren't even in that game ever, And it wasn't 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: like they were fifteen last week on the power ranks 12 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: and then stumbled like green Bay doesn't deserve it. They 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: lost a team that was thirty second and they were 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: like or whatever on the power they're down three spots. Okay, 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: quick question. Let's say they run that game back Houston Jags, 16 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: neutral field. I don't care. I think Houston's favorite. I 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: think they win the game. I think I think urban 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 1: Meyer's in way over his head. Yeah, and it is 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: not reports coming out things like he's unsettled or you know, 20 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: like shocking shocking. Yeah. Um, thirty one the Lions. They 21 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: came back strong, Like if I were a Lions fan. 22 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: They were biting knees in the fourth quarter. You know, 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: they at least made it a conversation. Unfortunately for them, 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: something bit Jeff of kutas knee and he's defense is 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: gonna be bad for the season with the Achilles injury. 26 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: They get They get the Packers this week, a mad Packers, 27 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: mad Packers team that's gonna be bad. I don't know 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: what that spread is, but it better be exactly uh 29 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: thirty and it's self Houston. The New York Jets really Okay, 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: they were pretty bad. They were pretty bad. They scored 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: a late touchdown and to make that respectable. Yeah, yeah, 32 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: I guess I can't argue with that. I mean, they 33 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: are getting hit with some injuries as well, backed in 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: and there's not a lot to hang your hat on. 35 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: Wilson looks bad time, yeah he is. And now Mackay 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: Beckton's out, Like that's not going to be good. Nine up, 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: three spots is to Houston, Texans. That's where they belong, 38 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: That's where they belong. Yeah, and they were good, Yeah, 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 1: they played well. They get the Browns this week. Um, 40 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor wasn't awful in that game. No, he drove 41 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. He was an ultra conservative 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 1: and they also still valued the football well. And they've 43 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: got veteran guys. It's like you, they are on one 44 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: year deals that are trying to save their career. Yeah, 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm playing for next year as much as 46 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I am this year. I certainly underestimated Houston and they 47 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: may lose the rest of the games, don't get me wrong, 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: But I don't think they're going to be an embarrassment. 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: It's tough to embarrass a bunch of veteran players, right, 50 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: guys have started games, and their offensive line it's okay, 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, They'll be not just this 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: total steam roll. But they're not gonna win a lot 53 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: of games. I don't think so. No, I mean, there's 54 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: still gonna be the least talented team every time they 55 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: line up basically uh down two spots. They may have 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: had the worst showing of any team outside of Green 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Bay this weekend was the Falcons. Yeah, it's really bad. 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: I'm worried about Falcons, Like I think they may spend 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: the whole year in this neighborhood, and we're talking about 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: are they gonna draft Sam how the quarterback out of 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: North Carolina. You know, Matt Ryan looks done. He looks done. 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I love Kyle Pitts and I didn't really have a 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: strong opinion of this at the time, but just after 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: one game they should have drafted Matt Jones or Fields 65 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: and just realized they're not close. The defense is no talent, 66 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: the problems down three spots. The New York Football Giants. 67 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: I thought they might be the next one. They were 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: an embarrassment too. Yeah, they got beat bad by the Broncos. 69 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,839 Speaker 1: The Broncos defense will make you look bad. Yeah that's uh. Yeah. 70 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: I don't have much hope for the Giants this year either. 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean, another coaching staff quarterback combination that is very 72 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: low on my list. Twenty six. The Chicago Bears. That's 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: where they belong. They stink. They're bad, They're really bad. 74 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: I was doing a podcast with uh with Chris Carter 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: on on d K Pittsburgh Sports, and he said, well, 76 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: the Bears, are you know that there'll be a playoff team? 77 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, are you out of your mind? They stink? 78 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: That's about where I had him in my preseason power rank. 79 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: He's like, well, they may go to Justin fields. That's 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: the problem is they're not going to go to Justin fields. 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: And even at what point did they do it? And 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna make mistakes? Yeah, you know I would go 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: to him the second. I'm sure they told Andy he 84 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: they're playing the Bengals this week. Yeah, hey, you can. 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: You're gonna line up as a starter against your old 86 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: team and we'll go from there. After that. It's over, man, 87 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: how much longer? You know how I get it. You 88 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: don't want to rush the kid into the lineup at 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, I don't even care if 90 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: he doesn't know the protections and change. You know, he 91 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: can escape, Dalton candis he can't escape, and he's not 92 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: gonna throw the ball down the field and he's our 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: listeners should think about it this way. If Chicago were 94 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: coming to town this week, who would you rather see? 95 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: A quarterback? Andy Dalton? A hundred times and their courting 96 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: their their head coach. Gaze is not a head coach 97 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: wherever it is, barrasit coach comes from from the Andy 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: Reid KC. Tree and he was there when they drafted Mahomes. Yeah, yeah, 99 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't know why I was all screwed up there anyway. 100 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: I think he thinks my team is a playoff team 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,119 Speaker 1: last year, just like Kansas City was when they traded 102 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: up for ma Homes. I heard that a kind of 103 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: you know, well, they they let Mahomes sit that entire 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: first year. I'll do you don't you don't like Alex 105 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: Smith was a legitimate NFL quarter but like twelve games 106 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: a year before and he Dalton is not that. No, 107 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: They're not a contender in the least, right, It's a 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: bad situation. Up two spots Carolina, all right, I think 109 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: they're okay. I'm the idea that Donald gets a little 110 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: better and you know, yeah, uh twenty four down seven spots. 111 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: This might be the biggest follower of the week, the 112 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. That seems a little harsh to me. They 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: did lose to the Bengals. We haven't had on here yet. No. 114 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: I still think if the if the Vikes play the 115 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Bengals eleven times, they win the series. They didn't on 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Sunday went to overtime on the road. I don't know, 117 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: that might be a little harsh over I would be 118 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: that hard on. Four of the Vikings five offensive linemen 119 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: were charged with holding penalties in net game against Cincinnati. 120 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: This is what I'm telling you, folks, when you're talking 121 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: about the Steelers offensive line, there are worse or at 122 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: least comparable offensive lines out there. This is a league 123 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: wide problem. This isn't a Steeler problem. Having to the 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: teams we've talked about so far. Worse a lot lines. Yeah, 125 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: you take McKay Beckton off that Jets offensive line, it's 126 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: worse than the Steelers off is horrendous. Bears is horrendous. 127 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: I mean, there's some bad ones. There's no question that 128 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: can be overcome. Yeah, if you have talent elsewhere, if 129 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: you don't, right, Uh, Cincinnati's up to twenty three, up 130 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: seven spots for the Bengals. Yeah, that's a pretty like. 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: The Vikings were fourteen spots higher than the Bengals on 132 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: his first place Bengals prediction. Though, that's the highest that 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: will be on there all year, probably, you know. Yeah, 134 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: but I think Burrow is really good. And although they 135 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: they probably win this week, they got the Bears, right, Yeah, 136 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: I assume their favorite next if they win this, they 137 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: win that game, then they yeah, they may move up again, 138 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: I guess, but I don't think they're better than Yeah, 139 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: there's I don't think they win a series again. No, 140 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I don't think so either. I don't think so either. 141 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I mean we were didn't say anying good about Atlanta, 142 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: but if Atlanta and the Bengals played a hundred times, 143 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm not so sure that since he wins that series, either, 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: UO down two spots and I may drop them even lower. 145 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Given the quarterback situation as the Washington football team, you 146 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: have to look at it that way, where like, how 147 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: good are they going to be with Taylor? They were 148 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: twenty in his rankings last week. You take their quarterback 149 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: out of the ship, out of the equation, they have 150 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: to be lower than twenty, I suppose, because like I 151 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: had them fifteen ish, so I was a little higher 152 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: to start with Adam right above Dallas. But the offense 153 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: is gonna be a problem. I mean they're gonna be 154 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: an issue now. They can win game seventeen, yeah, but 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: you can't have your quarterback make any mistakes and people 156 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: are gonna figure out. Heineke is the thing. It's a 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: it's a very slim margin. And I didn't show up 158 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: in this playoff game. But it's gonna show up. You know, 159 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: his people are gonna figure out his weaknesses. Yeah, I 160 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: can argue that one down five spots and they looked awful. 161 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: Was the Colts. They don't have much on offense. They don't, 162 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, like Nelson's clearly their best player. Fine, he's 163 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: a guard, you know that's great, But I mean I 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: think Wentz needs more taken off his play team needs. 165 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Taylor is a really nice player, but boy, 166 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 1: they're left tackle got whipped time and time again too. 167 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: It was Davenports. You know, this was a team that 168 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: used to have a great old line's hold. Now yeah, 169 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: now it's getting exposed a little bit, and the quarterbacks 170 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: holding the ball a lot longer than Rivers is he 171 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: always will. Pittman's your best receiver. I'd love that Pittman 172 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: on the Steelers. But he should be a two right now, 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, he'd be three or four on this team. Yeah, right, 174 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: right right at twenty they actually dropped the furthest was 175 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans, down nine spots. Yeah yeah, um their 176 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: line was really bad. Alor the one whipped Um he 177 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: got beat. He got beat so many times. You can 178 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: no longer call him a Pro Bowl former Pro Bowl player, 179 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: because that guy's gone on defense was just bad. I'm 180 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: curious where Arizona is. It would be the hardest team 181 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: to rank. Maybe they're really good. I'm at least open 182 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: the idea that we might look back at Week one, 183 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, months from now, and is really good. We 184 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: talked about them in the offseason. He said, well, they've 185 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: they're going out and getting a bunch of veteran guys, 186 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: kind of like what Houston did. Yeah, in a way, 187 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: in a way, except they've got some They've got some 188 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: more talented young pieces around those veteran players all veteran. Yeah, 189 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm worried about Tennessee. That division is 190 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: really bad. Derrick Henry midway through the third quarter in 191 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: that game, had nine yards on ten carries. Wow. I 192 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: heard someone saying today Arthur Smith should just call the 193 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: Titans back up and how about I come home. Yeah, 194 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: this isn't working out for anybody. Yeah, pulling Irban Meyer, 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: who wins the South. I think I'm still gonna go 196 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: with Tennis. I'm still gonna go with Tennessee. But man, 197 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: that that was not you lose thirty thirteen at home. 198 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: I might actually take the Colts. The Colts have a 199 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: really rough first month or so and then it gets 200 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: extremely easy. But what's the what's their psyche like when 201 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: they you know, after they get through that that five 202 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: game gauntlet, or what's the if Wentz is imploded in 203 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: his loss his confidence and doing what he didn't Filly, 204 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: then they're not gonna injury start to hit and yeah, right, 205 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't like any of the teams. No, 206 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: they're all trash. Nineteen holding steady. The Dallas Cowboys, I 207 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: think that's fair. I might even boost them. Yeah, that 208 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: offense is really good. Yeah, I mean they hung with 209 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: the defending world champions. We haven't had the Eagles on 210 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: here yet. I think they're better than the Eagles. I do. 211 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean Eagles were more impressive in one, but they 212 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: played the Falcons. They played a bad Falcons team. Yeah, 213 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: I promise you have Dallas played Eagles right now. They're 214 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: faced Yeah in either building. Yeah, in eighteen up five 215 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: spots Billy Las Vegas. Okay, I think that's deserved. Again, 216 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm not a believer. They proved me wrong last night. Um, 217 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: I had them like twenty four. I'm guessing a preseason, 218 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 1: you know, and they played well. Um, they're not horrible. 219 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean I guess that's where they were eight and 220 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: eight last year. That's where they're probably they probably win 221 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: eight or nine games this year. It's seventeen eight spots. 222 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: That would be the biggest riser of the week. Then 223 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: I would guess is the Eagles. Yeah, they did play 224 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: very well. I mean they blew a team out that 225 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: we don't think it is good, but you blew a 226 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: team out in the NFL. I thought they would win 227 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: the game. I didn't think it would be thirty two 228 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: to six. Yeah, both lines of scrimmage. I mean they 229 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: could after the path and that's what they're building, that's 230 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: what they're I have not said really anything good about 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurt since the end of the league. He looked 232 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: very comfortable. He looked a lot better than when I 233 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: saw him last And Davante Smith said, yeah at sixteen 234 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: up six spots and he was probably too low. And 235 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: then with Denver Broncos, yeah, I think that that's I 236 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: think you still might be too low and that might 237 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: be about where they are though some that twelve to 238 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: eighteen range somewhere in there. There's four teams in the 239 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: a f C that I'm gonna not necessarily lumped together 240 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: for power ranking reasons, but I'm gonna bring them up 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: with after they show up. I think they're very similar 242 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: in Denver's one of them at fifteen down two spots. 243 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: New England they're one of the other ones in that 244 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: four four pack of guys I'm lumping together. Yeah, that's 245 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: probably right the middle of the right, in the middle 246 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: of the league. You said they're fifteen yes, okay, yeah, 247 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: and again I think if they played Miami a hundred times, 248 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: it might be um at fourteen up four spots. The 249 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals I mentioned before, they would be my hardest 250 00:13:54,080 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: team to rank. They would win the South. The South. Yeah, 251 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent there. They played extremely well 252 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. Kyler is a problem man, 253 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: and they's got a lot of weapons that the lines 254 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: on as bad as people think, defense has some playmates. 255 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: As I said before, you know that everybody looked at 256 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: that schedule when the when the Steelers, the seventeenth game 257 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: was added, and the Steelers get Seattle in Cleveland, they 258 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: get Arizona be careful what you wish. Yeah, that's no, 259 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: that's no gimme either. For the like, that's a tough 260 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: team to play against. That whole divisions rough um. At thirteen, 261 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins up one spot, kind of Arizona ahead 262 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: of them, but you know the difference between Miami, New 263 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: England Arizona's pretty similar, pretty similar. At twelve, down eight 264 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: spots from number four, the Green Bay Packers. I wouldn't 265 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: have been that hard on them. They were fourth in 266 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: my mind a week ago. I thought they would win 267 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: that game though, and they got beat thirty eight to three. 268 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: They were the most embarrassing team of the weekend and 269 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: maybe Jacksonville, but they did not show up at all. 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: I bet they win this week. Well, they play the Lion. 271 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I bet they're they're gonna beat the Lions 272 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: this week, and and you know, the teams ahead of 273 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: them will lose and they'll bump back up ahead. I'm 274 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: probably where they should have fallen to in the first Yeah, exactly. 275 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a big bit of an overreaction by 276 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: hand Zeus, but fair enough. At eleven, up one spot, 277 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: whoever this is would be a dog against the Packers. 278 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: The Chargers, and they're could be a dog against the Packers. 279 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: I like the Charges a lot though. I thought that 280 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: was a big wine go across country with the rookie 281 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: of head coaches, first game, second year quarterback, young, left 282 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: tackle who shut down Chase Young. I'm ambitious about the Chargers. 283 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: It's ten up five spots the Saints. Heck of a win. 284 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: Stevens the thing you had to put the Saints ahead 285 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: of the Packers based on because it was such a 286 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: big one, such a beat down. That's the conundrum you 287 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: have when you have what do you do power ranks? 288 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: All right, what if they play again? What's the spread? 289 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Where in Jacksonville they play? They played on neutral field already. Well, 290 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: I mean, given what just happened, then the Saints are favored. 291 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: I guess, but I probably would. I'll probably take the points. Okay, 292 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I mean, he's got crushed. 293 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I saw what happened. But that's the conundrum 294 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: to me with They're always difficult. Right at nine holding 295 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: steady the San Francisco forty Niners. That's fine by me. Yeah. 296 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: They lost Jason Varetto to a season ending a c 297 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: L injury. They lost most they lost most or to 298 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: a season ending injury. Like they're already starting down that 299 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: road again. You got something going on. Yeah, I mean 300 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: he's in the doghouse or has a hamstring or whatever. 301 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: But he didn't get a catch, so they're a little shaky. Yeah, 302 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: at eight holding steady the Cleveland Browns, I would have 303 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: them higher. This is where I thought we'd fight. That's 304 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: who I think they are. I think they have all 305 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: I agree with much of what you say about them 306 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: time and time again that they don't know how to 307 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: win yet, and they brown it up and they losing 308 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: close times. But I still think they were a really 309 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: good team. Talent on paper is still just on paper. 310 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Until you show me that you can win consistently win 311 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: games like that, I'm sorry, and I just Can'tting edged 312 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: out by a superstar team doesn't ding me to them. 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: But the Chiefs did that all last year. That's what 314 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: they That's how their whole season went last year. But 315 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: they just edged everybody out. They didn't blow That's that's 316 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: the misnomer. Two years ago, the Chiefs blew everybody out. 317 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: Last year they did not. But I'm not sure how 318 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 1: that means or the Cleveland what Cleveland did was less 319 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: than impressed. Why I leave them in that spot. I 320 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: think they're I think that's who they are. I'd put 321 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: them over the Steelers, I know right the second I 322 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: put them over the Steelers, and the Steelers had a 323 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: far more impressive showing in Week one. You go into 324 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you looked at it, Cleveland, Cleveland, actually 325 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: they went off as a five and a half point 326 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: underdog in that game. The Steelers are six and a half. 327 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: The Steelers had it was both on the road. They're 328 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: both on the road, good football teams, both against teams 329 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: that were in the a f C Championship last and 330 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: the Steelers just completely shut down that offense, just shut 331 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: it down. The Steelers defense is the best unit of 332 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: the groups. If you were ranking units in the in 333 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: the a f C North, the Steelers number one, the 334 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: Steelers d and number one number two. I don't even 335 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: think it's close. I don't think it's closed right now. 336 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: But Steelers offense isn't number two. It might be eight. 337 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: If you're talking about eight. Yeah, it's in the middle 338 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 1: of somewhere fifth or six. But still that defense is 339 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: that much better than the other you mentioned before. The 340 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: four teams in the a f C remind me of 341 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: each other. And while I think the Steelers are better 342 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: than New England, Miami, and Denver, I think all those 343 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: teams are really similar in that those guys have young quarterbacks, 344 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: but you don't. The quarterbacks is not gonna be the 345 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: driving force. Defense will be. They're well coached. I think 346 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: all four of those teams are the same style to 347 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: me throughout the year, and I would put Pittsburgh first. 348 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: See here's where I would get I would differ with 349 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: him because he's got at seven. Baltimore goes down two spots, 350 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: they would be lower for me. I would bump them 351 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: down behind Cleveland. There might be two or three teams. 352 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: Green Bay would be over Baltimore for me, not just 353 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: because they lost, just because they're in a bad place. 354 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: They're in a spot right again. I'm not gonna kill 355 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: him for losing in Vegas in that environment, but I'm 356 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: going to kill them for where they are as a 357 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: team right now. They got holes. They might be like 358 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: twelve for me. Bumping down three spots to six is 359 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. I still, I still think the Bills 360 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: are a better team than than the Browns. I think 361 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: the Bills are a better team than the Steelers, but 362 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: they weren't on Sunday. But they weren't on Sunday. And 363 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: I think you bring this up a lot, you know, 364 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 1: the back of the Barnwell articles. Matchups to Steelers are 365 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: an awful matchup for Buffalo. I mean, like, if Buffalo 366 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: wins out and goes sixteen and one, they will not 367 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: want to play the Steelers in the first that was. 368 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 1: But you know, as much as I kept saying it 369 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: last week, that game, everybody talked about what a blowout 370 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: the game was. Last year, it wasn't. Buffaloes often scored 371 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: twenty points in that game. It was one of their 372 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: worst performances of the season. And that was without Devon 373 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: Bush and without Bud Dupree, and without you know, he 374 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: was played three games in twelve days. That was the 375 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: third one. I mean, to me, that's as big a 376 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: factor as anything. I mean, they mucked it up against 377 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: them big time. I think the Bills would rather play 378 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: maybe can maybe anyone but Kansas City. Yeah, they definitely 379 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: rather play Cleveland in New England and all those teams. 380 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: It's a terrible matchup for them at number five up 381 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,959 Speaker 1: five spots. The Steelers, I think it's a little rich. 382 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: I think it's rich too, but you had to put 383 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: them ahead of Buffalo because yeah, because of what they 384 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: did at number four, up three spots. Seattle. I guess 385 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: that deserved. You know, the teams like the Bills and 386 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: Browns that were probably ahead of them lost. You know, 387 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: Seattle went on the road and to a team that 388 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: they you thought was okay, but they blew them out 389 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: and it wasn't close. I think when the lines came 390 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: out over the summer, I think the Colts before like 391 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: stuff happening. I think they were favorite. Yeah, I mean 392 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: so Seattle's total business trip just goes in, takes care 393 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: of business, Wilson's and stud Yeah. Yeah. I don't know 394 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: that they're a Super Bowl contender, but that's where they 395 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: should be at three. The Rams up three spots. It's 396 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: pretty solid. They wiped out a bad team. Stafford looks 397 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: like he fits. They were about there probably to begin with. 398 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure what they're what to bring 399 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: them down. We know the top two teams are, but 400 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: I think the Rams would have to be three, don't you, Yeah? 401 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, based on yeah, I mean going 402 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: into it. I had, I mean, I picked him to 403 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl, So yeah, absolutely think that. Yeah. 404 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: I had the Bills three and the Packers for preseason, 405 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: but I would definitely the Rams ahead of my guy, 406 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: the Rams six or five. You know. It two is 407 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City, it one is Tampa Bay. We're splitting hairs. 408 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: But would you have them in that order? Probably? I 409 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: guess one one just beat the other team in the 410 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl not too long. They both got narrow wins, 411 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: but they got wins. The bottom line, very very strong 412 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: teams and they could beat again, you know, right, Yeah, 413 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: so not not too many arguments there. He thought that 414 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: was gonna be tougher. I thought we'd fight it out 415 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: a little bit more. Yeah, Okay, it is what it is. 416 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: But that's the power rankings. Will do that again next 417 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday when the power rankings come out. We'll see what happens. 418 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: This weekendvisions are really interesting just in terms of I 419 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 1: know it's on one game, but there's a couple of 420 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: divisions don't have a win. Right. There's you know, the 421 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: NFC West, ANFC No West team has lost. AFCFC South 422 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Houston's in first place. It's the first place and everything. 423 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: Every other team lost, yeah, not lost. The Bengals are 424 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: in first place. Yeah, I mean, obviously the things will change, 425 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: but it's pretty crazy here. The Ravens, for example, they 426 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: gotta they post Kansas City this week, coming off a 427 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: short week on the road games after that. But boy, 428 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: that's always started. T is tough. Yeah, I mean, you 429 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: have two teams on this list that we're ahead of you, 430 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: and the other one has a game on you already, right, 431 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you gotta play him 432 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: and you gotta play them all right. Yeah, I think 433 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: Baltimore should be worried. There should be some concerns there 434 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: for sure. But that's gonna do it in the absolutely, absolutely, 435 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. I'm 436 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: Dale Lali. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers 437 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. 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