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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, September two. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by the Fields Auto Group

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who believes there's a fine line

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Speaker 1: between tanking and being tanked. J. P. Shadrick of fine,

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Speaker 1: very fine line, and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Appropriate enough. JP. Shattrick. We'll get to Bucky Brooks and

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Speaker 1: John Oser coming up. We've got a busy program for

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Speaker 1: you today. It's the reaction after the fact of Inakwa

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Speaker 1: and for that being out of here, the departures, and

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Speaker 1: then what's next at those positions, the running back position

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Speaker 1: and a defensive end. We'll get into that today. It

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Speaker 1: has not been a great history of first round picks

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Speaker 1: returning to the Jaguars for second contracts. Will break that

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Speaker 1: down and maybe a little bit of what it takes

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Speaker 1: to get out of that rutt moving forward here with

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Speaker 1: all the changes, is there added pressure on Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: the second to carry this offense? And then we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League and our weekly Joe Judge

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Speaker 1: Report as well. John Osan is across town here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Johnny O? How are you doing I'm great,

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Speaker 1: j b I am great, and Bucky books Brooks is

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Speaker 1: across the country in California. How was the view of

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Speaker 1: things this week in l A of the Jaguars? A little.

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Speaker 1: It's a little interesting, but because it's always sunny out here,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very optimistic. I'm gonna look for the

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Speaker 1: silver lining and all of these things. I like the

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Speaker 1: glass half fool. That's uh, that's good. We're gonna need

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Speaker 1: it today. Let's get into what has happened here. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we start off with the departures, both in Gockway and

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Speaker 1: for Net. And John, I think you wrote about this

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Speaker 1: the Youngtuay departure. You kind of had an idea could

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Speaker 1: come at some point, right because it has been talked

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Speaker 1: about a possible trade, and then it finally came through

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Speaker 1: and he got sent to the Minnesota Vikings. The for

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Speaker 1: Net deal was a little bit of a surprise, a

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Speaker 1: lot of a surprise, and that Monday morning when that

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Speaker 1: email came through, the question I have for you, John,

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Speaker 1: is which departure will hurt the Jags the most? Which

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Speaker 1: departure can they overcome easiest? The God quay one or

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Speaker 1: the for Net one John Well, I don't think this

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Speaker 1: was I think it's far easier to overcome the loss

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Speaker 1: of a running back, any running back, because unless you're

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Speaker 1: a special back Ezekiel Elliott maybe tomorrow a guy like that,

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Speaker 1: a lot of what you do in this day and

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Speaker 1: I don't know that four net had really created all

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Speaker 1: that much on his own. Since he's been here. He's

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Speaker 1: had production, But how much of it is production that

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Speaker 1: that another back wouldn't have gotten. I'm not sure it's

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Speaker 1: that high to me and got Way when you can

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Speaker 1: create turnovers off the edge, when you can create pressure

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback on your own, which he can usually do.

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Speaker 1: He's had help with doubles on the other side, but

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Speaker 1: you can't argue that he doesn't create havoc. It's far

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Speaker 1: harder to create pass rush in the NFL than it

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Speaker 1: is to create pressure from the running back position or

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Speaker 1: production from the running back position. Can you agree with that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at got Way and what he's been

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Speaker 1: team Force falls and John talked about the turnovers, turnovers

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Speaker 1: everything in this game in the National Football League. Even

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Speaker 1: though I like Leonard Frenett and I think Leonard for

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Speaker 1: Nette has a place in this league as a feature

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Speaker 1: back in a certain system, I do believe that Jaguars

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Speaker 1: can certainly replace his production, either by committee or with

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Speaker 1: another guys stepping up. I think the loss of Jannick

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Speaker 1: And and I guess it's more difficult. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: maybe this is not right, but Buckey, He'll ask you,

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Speaker 1: is it's more difficult to develop an elite pass rusher

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Speaker 1: Is the running back an easier position just plugging play

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Speaker 1: It's easier for guys to have success without fully knowing

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Speaker 1: Caleb and Chase on this year. A little bit later

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Speaker 1: what to expect from those guys. Will hear from Todd

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Speaker 1: Wash as well on the departure of Unique and got Way.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's let's touch a little more on this

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Speaker 1: for net situation here. And he's a free agent. He

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Speaker 1: interesting comparison Joe mixing the Bengals the other day signed

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Speaker 1: a new contract. And it's perception is pretty interesting here

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Speaker 1: It depends on the place, the time and the perception

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Speaker 1: Here's what I would say. When Leonard Frenette comes into

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Speaker 1: changing where character really matters football character, and maybe just

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Speaker 1: because of what had happened in Jacksonville with Leonard Fernette,

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Speaker 1: certainly John on the football side. That was the reasoning

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Speaker 1: you know, it's just not in the plans. At least

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Speaker 1: That's the way they explained it to us. John, there's

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Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts here. Why didn't they release him

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Speaker 1: he hadn't been on the field in Jay Gruden's offense.

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Speaker 1: He's not to make you miss guy. Maybe he can

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Speaker 1: not really what Leonard is. It's what's valued in Jay's offense.

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Speaker 1: At some point that has to come down to it. Now,

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Speaker 1: a troubling trend, not just recently for this Jaguars organization,

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Speaker 1: The players that have UM had a first round selection

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Speaker 1: And in fact, Bucky, you know fifteen players from OH

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Speaker 1: Mercedes Lewis, Tyson Allo, Allo, and Blake Bortles. So that

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Speaker 1: And when we think about the draft and team building,

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Speaker 1: the first round pick is everything. Uh, Your first round

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Speaker 1: makes it hard to build a competitive team. Going all

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Speaker 1: oh Called, Blake Bortles, Dante Fowler, those guys not still

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Speaker 1: rebuilding mode. That is hard. It's hard to rebuild and

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Speaker 1: He's got to show it's his team. Now the training

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Speaker 1: wheels are off, all that stuff. He's got a chance

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Speaker 1: to show it's his team. I don't know realistically if

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Speaker 1: there's more pressure, because I don't know how you come

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Speaker 1: into a situation with more pressure than Minshew. Realistically, this

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Speaker 1: is his chance to show he's an NFL quarterback. If

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Speaker 1: he leads this franchise a six seven wins, he's the guy.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't, then realistically he's probably a backup and

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be hard to get himself out of

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Speaker 1: that reputation. So does it increase the pressure, No, because

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Speaker 1: he's got a world of pressure on him. Fortunately, j P.

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Speaker 1: I think he's the guy who's throws. We'll get back

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Speaker 1: with the John in just a moment. You know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's interesting, it's a kind of hypothetical question now, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: but you know, because we're before the season, but where

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Speaker 1: we can have away from the first game of the year,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the question is, you know, what's it

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Speaker 1: going to take for him to be the franchise guy

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Speaker 1: moving ahead? So is it six seven, eight wins? Whatever

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Speaker 1: that is? If it's not that are there changes in

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Speaker 1: the decision makers and do they go a different route

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Speaker 1: and try to go for the big star in the

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Speaker 1: draft next year. It's all hypothetical now, but it kind

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Speaker 1: of reminds you of a few years back. We went

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Speaker 1: Mortals was one of those. They re signed him, they

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Speaker 1: doubled down on that. It didn't work out. So another

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Speaker 1: big decision is looming down the line here. There were

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Speaker 1: a little early for that, but it is coming up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: another decisions looming down the line. And look, we gotta

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Speaker 1: we have to address the elephant in the room. The

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Speaker 1: one quarterback class. UH draft class is outstanding. There's some

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Speaker 1: notable names there. There's some underclassman that people are excited about,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields and Trey Lance and so

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Speaker 1: Gardner miss you not only has to compete against what

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Speaker 1: is in front of him on the field, but he

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Speaker 1: has to be more impressive than what any of those

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Speaker 1: guys displayed during their final seasons in college. And so

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Speaker 1: that is tough. And when you also have the scars

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Speaker 1: of not moving off from Blake Bortles and watching Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes going to be a star and win a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson emerging as a star. It impacts your ability

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Speaker 1: to make decisions. So look, Gardner, miss you, we we

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Speaker 1: talked about these analogies. He's don quyote. He is fighting

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Speaker 1: windmills this year, not only on the field but in

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Speaker 1: the draft because he has to be spectacular to prevent

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Speaker 1: the decision makers from not dipping their toe into the

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Speaker 1: quarterback market. That is, you're you're bringing out, uh the

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Speaker 1: big guns today. I like it. Well, what would you

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Speaker 1: compare this? Uh? I know it's early, we haven't played

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Speaker 1: the last year before next year's draft, but as it

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Speaker 1: stands right now, where would you rank the quarterback class

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Speaker 1: in next year's draft. I know it's early, they haven't

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Speaker 1: played the season yet, but as it sits to it's spectacular.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's as good as that class that had

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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. You have three guys at

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Speaker 1: the top of the board that are legitimate, uh, bona

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Speaker 1: fide playmakers. Trevor Lawrence justin fields, trade lance and whatever

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Speaker 1: order you like it, because I know there's been an

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Speaker 1: anointing of Trevor Lawrence, but I'm telling you, there's some

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Speaker 1: people that are not quite certain that he is the

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Speaker 1: universal choice to be number one. And so in a

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Speaker 1: wide open race on the collegiate level, you have three options.

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Speaker 1: Were guys that can come in and be franchise quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Garden Minshew has to prove or show that he is

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Speaker 1: better than what could be behind during number one. Next

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Speaker 1: year on draft day, John Osier back with us. Now, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot to take in. You know, you gotta

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Speaker 1: go win games to begin with, and then the performance

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Speaker 1: has to be, according to Bucky, better than what those

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Speaker 1: guys could bring to That's that's a lot to do

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Speaker 1: for Gardner in year two. John, Well, it either has

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Speaker 1: to be that or maybe a playoff the old analogy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't have to outrun the bear. I

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Speaker 1: just have to outrun the guy that I'm running from

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Speaker 1: the bear with. You know, um, I think the worry

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Speaker 1: that you have isn't the Gardener Minshew leads him to

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Speaker 1: eight wins or nine wins. The warrior is is a

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fan. You have his he's good enough to lead

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Speaker 1: you to five and does that put you at picking

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Speaker 1: five when the top three guys go off the board,

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Speaker 1: Because if there's three there's three teams that want quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: up there. They're not going to trade you with you

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Speaker 1: no matter what you offer, So you don't want him

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Speaker 1: to be just good enough to take you out of

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Speaker 1: that equation, and you know we're away at it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he'll be the guy. I hope he is, but that

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Speaker 1: would be the concern is is he just good enough

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Speaker 1: to not let you be in that mix? Yes? I

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Speaker 1: mean he has the blade border situation all over again,

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Speaker 1: and you have to dig down and you have to

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Speaker 1: see what is going to miss you going to be

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Speaker 1: in five years? Will we'll be making a franchise killing

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Speaker 1: mistake by not dipping out in that quarterback class by

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Speaker 1: hanging with Gordon Minshew, a six brown pig. A lot

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Speaker 1: of pressure on him because he's going to have to

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Speaker 1: play exceedingly well for the team builders to say, you

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Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna bypass what we could get at

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Speaker 1: So let's play some football games, hopefully and win some

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Speaker 1: football games before we get to that conversation, and Buckey

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Speaker 1: will have that conversation again. I think when it is

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Speaker 1: back in a moment a little more on the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: Got Way trade to the Vikings and how the defense

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Speaker 1: entry in Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour in got Way.

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Speaker 1: Unique and got Way defensive end might have heard of him,

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Speaker 1: traded to the Minnesota Vikings officially Monday for draft picks,

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Speaker 1: a second rounder next year, a conditional fifth round pick

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Speaker 1: in two and today for the first time, we heard

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Speaker 1: and his relationship with The biggest thing is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it worked out for bow sides. Obviously, I

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Speaker 1: having him for three or four years and that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. But you know, I wish him nothing but

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Speaker 1: the best, and uh, you know, both the organization and Yahn,

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Speaker 1: we all have to move on. John's very intelligent football player.

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Speaker 1: We were gonna do some things schematically obviously, just to

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Speaker 1: move him around, get him on space, get him in

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Speaker 1: edges Um. There wasn't really a, like you said, a

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, we've we've kind

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Speaker 1: in that role that best fits their skill set. That's

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Speaker 1: Todd washed defensive coordinator today and he's discussing what they

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Speaker 1: could have done within Gockway but just maybe didn't have

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Speaker 1: going in miss some of the training camp. So they

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Speaker 1: those are the plans that that Todd was talking about.

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Speaker 1: Their Bucky was trying to do some different things, moving

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Speaker 1: want to ask you, though, Bucky, was this a good deal?

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Speaker 1: Is there a winner in this deal? What the Jags

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Speaker 1: getta not in return? Or is this a fair deal?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough to say because that you have

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Speaker 1: Yannicking Gockway is. He's a Pro Bowl player. He's a

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Speaker 1: guy who has the fourth most force bumbles in the

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Speaker 1: league's sixteen And so the only way you can say

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Speaker 1: what they get back in players gives them more than that.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, a lot of it depends on

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Speaker 1: and Josh Allen erased what Yannick and Gockway has done.

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Speaker 1: Meaning this, Josh Allen played a high enough level where

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Speaker 1: we're singing his praises as a dominant player, as a

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Speaker 1: Can he come in and give you immediate contributions and

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Speaker 1: I think all of the stuff that Todd Wash was

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Speaker 1: reserving for John he can do with Josh Allen. And

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Speaker 1: if Josh Allen plays up to the expectations, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: defense may not skip a beat without Yannick and Gokua. Yeah, John,

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Speaker 1: it feels that way. You know, they drafted Josh and

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Speaker 1: they were together a year, he and unique, and now

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Speaker 1: John's gone, here's Chason to come in to fill those shoes.

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Speaker 1: That's a pretty natural progression, at least on paper. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And it's a little bit of a tough spot for

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Speaker 1: the Jags in that fense. Of yes, he wanted to

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Speaker 1: pay Unique, but as we've talked about JP, the reality

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Speaker 1: was it was hard to pay him before because he

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Speaker 1: wasn't the best defensive end on your team when Clay's

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Speaker 1: Campbell was here. Hard to pay him now because he's

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Speaker 1: not the best defensive end on your team with Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen here, So that I'm sure played a little bit

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Speaker 1: of that. Yes, Josh Allen can replace the uniques production.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be a better run player than Unique could

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Speaker 1: have been. The question is, can Chase sign get to

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Speaker 1: a point or he replaces what the second defensive end,

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Speaker 1: second edge rusher, which was gonna be Unique. Can Chason

643
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Speaker 1: get to half of that this year? I think he'll

644
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Speaker 1: get above it at some point. He's supposed to be

645
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Speaker 1: first round pick. But can he get to replacing six

646
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Speaker 1: sacks maybe a couple of bumbles. I don't think you're

647
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Speaker 1: going to replace Unique production what would have vantaged production

648
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Speaker 1: this year. He's too good. It would be insulting to

649
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Speaker 1: him to say that you're going to be better without him.

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Speaker 1: Curious to see how he fits in in Minnesota as well.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out firsthand Week thirteen. By the way that

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Speaker 1: the Jags are at the Vikings, and I would bet

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Speaker 1: that Unique will be sounding the galler Horne himself the

654
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Speaker 1: opening kickoff in Minnesota. UM today Todd wash but he

655
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Speaker 1: was asked about Caleb and Chasen and where he would

656
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Speaker 1: be in this defense, and I think the question was

657
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Speaker 1: about would you standing up, would you play him at

658
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Speaker 1: lineback or some and and Todd today said no, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna keep him at defensive line, defensive end. And but

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Speaker 1: he's strong enough and big enough that they can play

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Speaker 1: that that the other end, you know, which is I

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Speaker 1: think a little bit of a maybe not a surprise,

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Speaker 1: but seeing it on the practice field, finally they've realized

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Speaker 1: they can do a little more with Chason than just

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Speaker 1: on the rush end side of Thanks Bucky. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: he's a talented players. He's very athletic, he's dynamic, he's explosive.

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Speaker 1: UM he has natural wiggle ability due to his basketball

668
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Speaker 1: background in high school. And I believe what you have

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Speaker 1: is he can matures. You have two guys that are

670
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Speaker 1: very similar in Josh Allen and Jason. Josh Allen was

671
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Speaker 1: a more refined rusher coming out of Kentucky, but Chasan

672
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: has explosive athletic traits and if they can develop those

673
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Speaker 1: traits on the field, you now have two guys who

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Speaker 1: can be chamellions on the edge and whether you want

675
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: to stand them off or put them down or do

676
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: all kinds of things, but you put them on the

677
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Speaker 1: same side. Did Look it is available there the creativity

678
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Speaker 1: and whatever tid Wasah wants to do, but it will

679
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: be governed by what Jason is able to show very

680
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: early in the year. But yeah, I think there's plenty

681
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: of room for the Jaguars to get more creative on

682
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Speaker 1: defense with these young ed Russia stepping into the line up.

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Speaker 1: And John, we've talked about this all offseason. Really, that's

684
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Speaker 1: been the talking point around JAG's Twitter and the fan

685
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Speaker 1: base and all that is all they should play some

686
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Speaker 1: three four and mix some of that stuff in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Todd wash is not going there you saying it's a

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Speaker 1: four three. Look, they'll have some principles. Would you like

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Speaker 1: to explain this yet again, John, what this is going

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Speaker 1: to be. Well, it's gonna be the hybrid, it's gonna

691
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Speaker 1: be the same scheme. But it certainly sounds like they're

692
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Speaker 1: going to have more of an ability to stand the

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Speaker 1: edge guys up in passing situations. And I haven't had

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Speaker 1: to explain this in a while, so my touch points

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Speaker 1: are kind of gone. But that's sort of what it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. They don't believe they're a true three four

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Speaker 1: scheme because they don't leave they have a true nose,

698
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: and then the ends who really play that way. But

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Speaker 1: this has been made such a big deal of and

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Speaker 1: it's really not as video as people make it because

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Speaker 1: you're only in that base package for the plays. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: in your past rush past defense schemes, I think you

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Speaker 1: will see them get a chance to play more of

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Speaker 1: their true edge rushers in that scheme. With this, I'd

705
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Speaker 1: explain it very well. Maybe Bucky the football guy can

706
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Speaker 1: do better, but that's the spirit of it. Basically, it's

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Speaker 1: a conversation we always have that I don't think means

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Speaker 1: as much in reality as it does on Twitter. John,

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Speaker 1: You're right, it really doesn't. Most teams are in the

710
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Speaker 1: nickel or SEB packages sevent at a time, So maybe

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Speaker 1: your first down you have to determine are your four

712
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Speaker 1: three or a three or four team, But it really

713
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Speaker 1: depends on the other team because the other team is

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Speaker 1: playing eleven person one act once at in three wild receivers,

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Speaker 1: your nickel packages on the field. I think the important

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Speaker 1: thing that you want to think about if you're tied wash,

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Speaker 1: how can I get my best eleving on the field.

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Speaker 1: How can I get my best group of pass rushers

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Speaker 1: on the field at the same time. If n Chasing

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Speaker 1: is more comfortable standing up, the stand up, if Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen is more comfortable standing up, stand up or put

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Speaker 1: your hand down, un enable these guys to be at

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Speaker 1: their best. That's really what it comes down to. How

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Speaker 1: you put the x is on the board or whatever

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Just get the right guys in those xbots

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Speaker 1: and then go hunt the quarterback. I'll tell you what, JP,

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Speaker 1: if they don't stop the run, you can play a

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Speaker 1: seven two and it doesn't map. That's the whole They

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Speaker 1: gotta stop starts in order to let those guys out

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Speaker 1: brush the quarterback. And that's really the key. They have

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Speaker 1: to stop the run, no matter what scheme they play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a certainly an issue for this defense. Last

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Speaker 1: You're to say the least a handful of two hundred

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Speaker 1: yard plus rushing games against this defense. That's been the

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Speaker 1: big talking point this offseason as well for for Todd

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Speaker 1: D J. Chark one of the really, really good young

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Speaker 1: receivers in the National Football League. Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy

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Speaker 1: our j P, Shadrick, Bucky Brooks and John Osier. I

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Speaker 1: have a question for oh John, please go ahead. Yes,

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Speaker 1: if we had Mike Bucky up back in ninety six

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Speaker 1: when he was one on one with Keenan, what would

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Speaker 1: That probably would have been a bunch of explitters, and

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Speaker 1: then it would have been me holding off for dear life,

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Speaker 1: and you would have heard Keenan talking about queer holding

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Speaker 1: creek grabbing quick Klutchen And I'm just like Keena. The

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Speaker 1: Nor officials out here, we're just out here playing ball,

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Speaker 1: the Nor officials. You've heard a lot of that, a

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Speaker 1: lot of that conversation. I like it. So you're saying

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Speaker 1: Keenan um talked a bit or complained a bit about

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Speaker 1: whole and grabbing on. He complained a lot. And in fact,

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Speaker 1: this this little cricket peeky is due to Keenan because

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Speaker 1: I inadvertently got my finger caught up in his jersey

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Speaker 1: and he pulled away and I hurt my little pinky. Well,

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Speaker 1: I hope, well, now you learned your lesson. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's what he told me. That's what you get that.

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Speaker 1: It's hilarious. Of course. Keendan now the wide receivers coach

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Speaker 1: from the Jacksonville Jaguars, and you know, you can see

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Speaker 1: his impact. I think with that mindset and the way

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Speaker 1: he came up a late round draft pick and worked

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Speaker 1: his way through the league for a long career here Bucky,

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Speaker 1: I mean, his impact with these young receivers is pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious to see, including the guy we just saw on

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Speaker 1: the screen and d J Chart. I love Keena mccardo

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Speaker 1: not only as a person, but I love him as

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Speaker 1: a teacher. And I think what we've seen consistently down

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, the wide receivers get better under his tutor.

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Speaker 1: DJ Trark is a terrific example. He is someone that

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Speaker 1: was drafted and I viewed him as a vertical stretch guy,

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Speaker 1: but he is emerged and evolved to being a legitimate

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Speaker 1: number one receiver. The things that you've been able to

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Speaker 1: see him do, winning the fifty fifty balls, still being

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Speaker 1: able to guy to to take the top off the

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Speaker 1: defense while being that number one. It's fantastic, But it's

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Speaker 1: the other guys. Chris Connelly being able to make plays

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Speaker 1: as a dirty work receiver, Kenan Cole being able to

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Speaker 1: do things as a slot receiver. The work that he

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Speaker 1: is going to do with Laviska channel, we haven't been

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Speaker 1: able to see it, but I know that he is

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Speaker 1: going to make him a terrific catch and run specialists.

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Speaker 1: This wide receiver corps would be much better than advertised,

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Speaker 1: and it could be a reason why Gardner mention plays

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Speaker 1: better than many people that expect john every receiver. We

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Speaker 1: talked to Raves about Keatan's teaching ability. Yeah, and I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what's intriguing about this wide receiver. Fors and

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Speaker 1: I Bucky Alogy speak to this more than me. How

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Speaker 1: On Johnson has looked as good or better than jal

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Speaker 1: Not that Nald hasn't looked good at times. Colin Johnson's

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Speaker 1: really stood out and I have been surprised, not that

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Speaker 1: he's got the physicality, not that he can win jump balls,

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Speaker 1: he's open a lot. He looks to me like a

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Speaker 1: smoother route runner, especially for his size. Then I certainly

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Speaker 1: expected what was your take on him coming out? But

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Speaker 1: you know, head into his final season at Texas, he

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Speaker 1: was expected to be a big time prospect. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: didn't generate the numbers. And then they had a guy

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Speaker 1: Devin during Durna Beg who kind of took over. But

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Speaker 1: I'll say this about Colin Johnson. It's hard to find

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Speaker 1: guys at his six fourth plus that can sink their hips,

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Speaker 1: that can get in and out of else and he

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Speaker 1: can catch the ball in between the numbers, and that

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Speaker 1: is critical because sometimes you see those big guys that

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Speaker 1: want to win, they don't like going inside where's noisy.

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Speaker 1: His ability to do that could make him a guy

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Speaker 1: that could make probably become an ideal number to receive

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Speaker 1: ever to a guy like a DJ Chark. And that's

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Speaker 1: saying something consider where they were able to get him,

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Speaker 1: full impact in his rookie season, he absolutely does. He

851
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: has to find a way and and it's tough sometimes

852
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: when you're that says, he is going to have to

853
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: be a guy that shows more toughness than what was

854
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: required during his college day. So he's gonna have to

855
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: come down and cover kickoffs. He's gonna have to find

856
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: a way to be on the punt and punt return team.

857
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: But if he can exhibit enough toughness to give himself

858
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: a chance to get a jersey each and every week, Look,

859
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: there's a war of attrition. If he gets on the

860
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: field as a true wife receiver, then he can shine it,

861
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: really show people what he can do. Looking forward to

862
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: seeing it. It's been fun to watch and training camp

863
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: and then the scrimmage on Saturday. Really shine in that

864
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: exhibition at t I A. Bank Field. Uh, let's wrap

865
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: up today as we look around the National Football League,

866
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: as we always do, we have a weekly Joe Judge segment.

867
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: Everybody's been on him, including us on this show, about

868
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: some of the decisions that have been made there and

869
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: making players and sometimes coaches run laps at practice. Can

870
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: you imagine some of the coaches running laps at practice.

871
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: The idea of letting the quarterback get his pads popped

872
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: a little, and practice we got on that. I got

873
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: on him about that last week. Well, this week, everybody

874
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: loves him, Bucky because apparently the team circle around him

875
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: after practice of a fumble drill and spraying water in

876
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: the mud and watched him sliding the mud puddle and

877
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: and cheered and and they love him all of a

878
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: sudden in New York. It's funny how quick things can turn. Yeah,

879
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: things can turn very very quickly. But I will give

880
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: him credit because the players have been universal in their

881
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: support of him. It also helped. He has a very

882
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: young team, but he has tried to ingratiate himself with

883
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: the players by not only being a stern disciplinary and

884
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: but also trying to cant with them, cracking jokes being

885
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: a part of it. This participation in the phone boy

886
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: drill was another way that he's been able to connect

887
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: with the team. At some point, go they gonna have

888
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: to win games. We'll see if he's able to do that. Though. Yeah, John,

889
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: that's that's where the rubber hits the row to win

890
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: and lost columns. That's how that works. Well it is.

891
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: And I don't know Joe Judge, but if if he's

892
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: being true to himself, then you can get away with

893
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: the things he does. Meaning if if you can be

894
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: true to yourself, the discipline, some of the wacky stuff,

895
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: and yet still reach the players and show them that

896
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: you're genuine. You know, I always thought that worked for

897
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: Coughlin to a degree, because Coughlin was who he was

898
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: when he was here. A lot of players didn't like it,

899
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: but overall you also knew that when you cut through it,

900
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: he wasn't being a phony. So it sounds like this

901
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: is who Joe Judge is, uh, And if if that's

902
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: the case, then that will work. It usually doesn't work

903
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: if players sense you're being phony. That's who Tom was

904
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: when he was here, and then when he was here again,

905
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: he was still the same guy. We Leonard for now,

906
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: of course, went unclaimed on waivers. So what do you

907
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: think are the leading teams to maybe signed Leonard Bucky?

908
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: You know it's gonna be tough. I think obviously a

909
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: team that wants to play a downhill, smash mouth style

910
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: would look to four nett. I would say, keep our

911
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: eyes on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And the reason why

912
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: is because they need to run the football to steal

913
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: Lighten some of the load on Tom Brady. They haven't

914
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: had a big time running back. I don't have Shady

915
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: McCoy and Ronald Jones, but Lenna Fernett is a downhill

916
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: runner who would fit in certain packages down with the

917
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Yeah, and John, there's not a lot

918
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: of you know, straightforward, downhill I formation offenses in the

919
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: NFL these days. Yeah, there's not. And you know, you

920
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: wonder if this dynamic could play out different had there

921
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 1: been preseason games, because you haven't had a lot of

922
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: teams with injured players and your running back. There hasn't

923
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: been a lot of attrition at the position, so you

924
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: sort of wonder if maybe this could play out after

925
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: Week one, he's going to get a chance somewhere, But

926
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: does he sort of wait for the right opportunity and

927
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: does that opportunity to come when somebody gets injured around

928
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: the league? That wouldn't shock me. We'll see if it

929
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: plays out that way. We moved to the Big Easy

930
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 1: and Alvin Kamara is in the news. There was not practicing.

931
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: There were rumors that he was on the training block

932
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: by the Saints, and he's due to make over a

933
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: little over two million dollars this year in the final

934
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: year of his rookie deal. But he refuted, and he

935
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: claims with a trade request or a holdout threat. Bucky.

936
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: The Saints have to figure this one out, right, They

937
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: can't let him walk away. Oh. Absolutely, he is the

938
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: best and most valuable offensive player. And I'm saying that

939
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: knowing that Michael Thompson was the offensive player of the year.

940
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: But what Alvin Kamara does is he's a mismatch nightmare.

941
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: He's a guy that can do it in the running game.

942
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: He can split outside and be a domin a pass chester.

943
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: They have to figure it out. I do believe they

944
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: will figure it out. But it's tough because how do

945
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: you categorize him? Is your running back? Is your playmaker?

946
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: Christ McCaffrey got sixty million? How close are you willing

947
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: to go if you to do or than Saints to

948
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: put al mccamar in that category? Well, John, remember we

949
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: had a guy that you couldn't really had. You remember

950
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: Cordell back in the old days was slash right, Well,

951
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: we had the offensive weapon and Denard Robinson who's now

952
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: an offensive assistant here, John, that might be appropriate for

953
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Kamara right now? Yeah, I don't know if that's the

954
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: same thing. No offense. I get your point, you know,

955
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: sixteen million. When I heard that was the demand, my

956
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: first thought was, Wow, that That'scaffrey money. I don't know

957
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: if I put Tamara that level, He's super valuable to me.

958
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: This feels a little bit like the unique situation where

959
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the Saints want to sign him, but can they afford

960
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: can they get him to that level? Boy, it's a tough,

961
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: especially when you got Brees and you got and you

962
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: had the receiver. Uh, it smells like this one could

963
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: go a while. We'll see. We'll see. A couple of

964
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks named today in the league. To Ron Taylor

965
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: named the starter in l A for the Chargers, first

966
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 1: starting opportunity for him since Baker Mayfield took him out

967
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, and then Dwayne Haskins name the starter for

968
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: the Washington football team today. Bucky O, those the right

969
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: moves for each Yeah, I think there's are the right

970
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: moves for both. I think Tyrod Taylor was the guy

971
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 1: that Anthony wanted. He wants better ball security at the

972
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 1: quarterback position. Dwayne Haskins was a guy that was coming on,

973
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: played really well the last two or three games, and

974
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: so despite the noise, he responded really well to Ron

975
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: ri various requests for him to up to any when

976
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: it came to his work ethic. I think he earned

977
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: the job, and I think everyone around Washington certainly wanted

978
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: to see that happen. Yeah, some big names there today,

979
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs received their championship rings yesterday. And guys,

980
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it just it really feels like this

981
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 1: is the start of something long term in Kansas City.

982
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: Obviously they've signed the quarterback long term. They've already got

983
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: a ring on their finger. Now, Uh, John, this one

984
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: could go a while in Kansas City. It feels like, well,

985
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: because you got the quarterback, all the other stuff they're

986
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: doing is great, but you've got to what is four

987
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: and you've locked him up for a long term. You

988
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: can't imagine, I how never go anywhere else. Brady did.

989
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: But you know for the bulk of his career he's

990
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: going to be there. That's the whole key. He looks

991
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: incredibly special and when you've got that, you lock it

992
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: up and you've got a chance to win a lot. So,

993
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: but don't forget I think Bucky may have said this,

994
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: but I forget yo. Last year in the postseason, they

995
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: were a late touchdown away from not winning the Super Bowl.

996
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: The Texans had him on the ropes. Yeah, they've still

997
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: got to earn it. And this is not going to

998
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: be a Kansas City walk away this year. Put it

999
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 1: that way. That's my prediction. Won't be a walk away.

1000
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: And I'll take the field against the I'll take the

1001
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: other thirty one. Oh wow, look at John thoas are

1002
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: going bold before we get to the prediction. I like

1003
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: it though. I like it because it will be challenging.

1004
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: The one thing that Bows Well for that she's being

1005
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: relevant contenders. They not only signed Pat Mahomes long term,

1006
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: they had a six year extension for Andy Reid. It

1007
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: is important for those two to be linked together. They

1008
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: are a spectacular duo. That is why the cancer Deceased

1009
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: will be a team that we always have to talk

1010
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: about being a contender. And next week we will have

1011
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: are maybe some bold predictions for the NFL season because

1012
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: will be a day away from the first game in

1013
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: the NFL a week from today when we reconvene here.

1014
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: John well Done is always appreciate it, Bucky, Great to

1015
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: see you too. Man always Hey man, thanks so much.

1016
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: Guys love it. We'll love me back next week. Bold

1017
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: predictions coming up our thanks to John Osier, Bucky Brooks,

1018
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: our entire crew. I'm j P. Shadrick. We'll catch you

1019
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: next time. Jaguars Happy Our presented by the Fields Auto

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