WEBVTT - Be Kind, Rewind: “Home” with David Kendall 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.560 Susan and I are like twenty again, out living our lives. 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.440 We've had dinner with friends, other friends, believe it or not, 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:28.000 than you guys. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.840 Yeah people, Yeah, yeah, it wasn't us. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.280 And last night we went to what's called a play applot, 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:35.520 say that right? 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:36.360 Oh my god? 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:39.760 At the Pantagious we saw Harry Potter. 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.880 Oh you saw a little play called Harry Potter. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.240 Harry Potter, what'd you think? 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:43.960 Okay? 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:48.839 Couple things, God, First of all, the production is unreal. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:51.680 I mean, like the magic they're doing on the stage, 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.120 and it's yes, incredible, I mean really incredible. 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.160 Would Adler and Keaton enjoy it? 0:00:57.640 --> 0:00:57.840 Yeah? 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.959 It was full of kids, like it was, Oh my god, 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:04.399 of kids. So this is where the story comes in, 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.840 which is interesting. I Walt, I, my wife and I 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:08.800 we went and had a wonderful dinner and then we 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:09.399 walk in. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.839 And we were in kind of we've got great seats. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.600 We're in the center of the aisle, so you know, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:15.080 obviously we've got to walk past everybody. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:16.320 They've got to stand up and let us in. 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.039 And like I said, it was full of kids, and 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:21.520 a group of kids that were probably thirteen or fourteen 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.000 all stood up to let us buy and the first 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:28.559 guy went, first kid went, you're on Boy Mets WORLDO. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:29.720 So A. 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.319 My wife's like, you just got recognized and you never 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.320 get recognized, which is sea for know. 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:39.920 What's funny is I was you two twenty last night? 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.040 Wow, So that's no, it'll stick before see you two 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:47.800 twenty just hits yes, trying too hard, but so I 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.320 was like, yes I am. And all the other kids, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.000 oh my god, it was great. We saw the first 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.240 half of the play. It was absolutely incredible. And then 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.360 during intermission they came up and said can I have 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:57.800 a picture? 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:58.080 Can I have? 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:00.400 And I'm looking at them and I said, you're all 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.600 so young, yeah, to be Boy Meets World fans, And 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:04.440 they all said the same thing. 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:04.840 Of course. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:07.240 My mom was a huge fan of the show. My 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:08.680 dad was a huge fan of the show. But we're 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.800 going through the entire thing. It is so great. We 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:11.519 love it so much. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.120 And then one young man named Lucas came up to me. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:15.920 Lucas, Shout out to Lucas. 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.200 Shout out to Lucas, who was the first young man 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.440 who recognized me, and he said, I also want to 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.560 let you know that I'm such a fan of pod 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:28.200 Meets World. That it made my best friend and I 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:29.959 start our own podcast. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:30.720 Aw. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.480 No shout out to the podcast called Oh Shut Up. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:37.040 I've never heard it, they're just starting it. They're two 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.000 like fourteen year olds. I didn't get his friend's name. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:41.760 I apologized. I met him, but I didn't get his name. 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:43.240 But to Lucas and the Oh. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.520 Shut Up podcast, Wow, that was inspired by them loving 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:48.720 pod Meets World at. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.320 Like thirteen years old. Wow, so we. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.679 Are we writer and I saw this at nineties con 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.120 younger and younger generations are finding boy Meets World again 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.960 because they're watching with their kids or sometimes their grandkids 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.239 and they're watching the show. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.079 And now younger kids are finding the podcast too. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.160 And it was such a cool thing to be at 0:03:08.200 --> 0:03:10.240 this amazing theater. If you've never been in the Pantage, 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:14.080 it's it's gorgeous and watching this incredible stage show. And 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.200 I want to hear I want to hear what you 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.720 thought of the play, Lucas, Harrison, and Jamie. Apparently producer 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.760 Jensen has already done the shout out for the Ocean 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.480 Up podcast. No, the play was some of most of 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.720 the acting was was good. Really, some of it was 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.160 a little high school. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.240 Wow, writer, have you seen it twice? 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:38.760 I saw it. 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:41.400 I saw on Broadway London and on Broadway. I saw 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:45.440 it on Broadway, Okay, cried the entire time and was 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.360 I just going through an emotional thing? Yes, I don't know. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.520 Then I went and saw in. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.800 La two weeks ago, cried the entire time. I really 0:03:52.800 --> 0:03:58.440 loved it even more. Id you Harry Potter as a dad? 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.280 It's a father son story. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.440 It's like, it's the way like. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.640 I, you know, had Indy went through the such Harry 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.200 Potter phase. I had never read Harry Potter like back 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.280 in the day, never, so I did it all with Indy, 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.600 and I, you know, I liked it. I never like 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:16.600 loved the Harry. I just felt I was too old. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.120 But when we saw the play on Broadway, I was like, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:22.440 this is my way into Harry Potter. It was just 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.120 it got me. It's time travel, which I'm obsessed with 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:26.120 time travel. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.719 Right, But it's also men of meta universes, which you 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:30.400 hate multiverse. 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.719 I know there's a little bit of fans service, but 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.320 I just think the writing is so good. I think 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.760 I think it's the best of all the Harry Potter stuff. 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:43.599 It's the one for me, And I also just love 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.239 the magic being live, like all. 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.360 The theater tricks that they do. 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:51.039 They do things like people transform on stage, there's flames 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.839 arcing across they go on the train, the roof of 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.880 the train, and like the special effects are so much 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.240 more fun when they're live, you know, Like watching magic 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:02.680 in the movies is like okay, c G I most 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.160 of the time. Like for me after the third one, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.479 the visual effects I don't really like, but the. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.040 Visual effects of the play like, oh so good. 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.160 How old do you need? How old do you think? 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.919 Is the perfect time for me to start? Addler on 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:14.479 Harry Potter? 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:18.799 It depends the first book. 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:22.159 The first I would argue maybe book and a half 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.279 to two books could be for younger audiences. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.320 By book three, it starts to get pretty scary. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.680 There is not a Adler doesn't mind scary. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:34.120 He doesn't mind sick. I think five or six, Indy 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.040 was a little old. Indy was a little young. 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.680 But I think you were reading it to him, right, Yes, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:39.400 I read. 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.440 Him the first three books, and yes he tapped out 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:42.600 of the third one. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.360 Yeah, because I got there too early, and I think 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:45.240 it give me a little sick. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:48.440 Seven Yeah, was scary. It was just not as interesting. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:49.880 It was more complicated. 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.320 Like that, it gets very intricate, it gets more characters. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:54.560 It's almost like a kid's story and ends as a 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:55.480 full fantasy series. 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:58.039 The first one is like a roll doll book like 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:01.320 it's it's like good for kindergart's first graders to listen to. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.599 It's great Sorcerers Stone. Yeah, I think you could start 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:04.360 SORCER's Stone with them. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:06.640 Do you need to have read any of the books 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.479 to enjoy the play? 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:09.000 Yeah? 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.680 Yeah, okay yeah, or seeing the movies. You have to 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:13.320 have seen the movies to really enjoy the play. 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.680 I think you need to know. I mean because again 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.560 they're going back with old characters and new characters and 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.120 yeah it doesn't yeah. 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:24.400 Okay, well so fun. Another question, why do you think 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.200 you and suit because I also am reliving my twenties. 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:30.200 I am going out all the time. Yeah, just all 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.360 the time. I have three lunches this week with three 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:34.159 different girlfriends. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:34.760 That's crazy. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:37.960 So what what's what's causing your twenties renaissance? 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.240 People are forcing us, I think would be the short answer. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.719 Oh okay, yeah, it's like, hey, you want to go 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.560 over for dinner and we're like, yeah, like that, I 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.520 think it's pretty much what's happening, or like, hey, we 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.680 got tickets for the thing. Now we are we are 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.719 we are actually enjoying it where it's been. It's also 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.760 we know that this summer is going to be b 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:01.280 A N A N A s. Yeah, because spell bananas, 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.159 because we know we're going on tour, and so that's happening, 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.160 and we're having construction done in the house. It is 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:09.560 like the next three or four months are going to 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:10.680 be crazy pants. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:12.880 So living while you can. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:13.760 Yeah, but we're also just. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:15.360 Spending as much time just with the two of us 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:16.720 as we can because we know she's going to be 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.240 shooting out to sis go a lot, I'm going to 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.360 be on tour. So yeah, there's we're spending as much 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:21.880 time with each other as we can, and somehow that's 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.760 arcing out to meeting new people and other friends and 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:28.240 uh yeah, so we're going out and eating at restaurants 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.440 and yeah, it's been it's been nice. 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.280 And once you start doing it, it gets easier and easier. 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.120 Right, Yeah, Well it's. 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.800 Like, yeah, it's like exercise or anything. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.200 I feel like once you like get it that, I mean, 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:41.120 this is the problem like for so many people coming 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:42.680 out of the pandemic, right, it's like they got so 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.600 used to just being home and like walk down that 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.200 the idea of like you just have to get into 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.520 the habit, like when you socialize, you just keep going. 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:54.440 It's so fun, that doesn't I can My balance is 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:57.720 one night a week, maybe two, and then I want 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.720 the rest at home. The idea we're four times a 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.440 week's yeah, that's insane to me. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.320 No, No, I do agree with you. Will a night 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:06.880 out once a week sounds great. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.280 We literally, as we were driving there last night, looked 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:11.480 at each other and both at almost the same time said, 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.200 if this play is not as entertaining as season three 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:16.520 Love Island, USA, we're. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:20.120 Both gonna be us so because we had to drive 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.320 to get to it, we're Love Island right there in 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.880 that room over there. So luckily it was very good. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:28.000 But again shout out to Lucas, Harrison and Jamie and 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.680 the Shut Up podcast, which was partially inspired by us 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:34.439 on Pod Meats World helping the next generation people so 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.080 you don't have a parent, I'm doing it. 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:38.440 Welcome to pod meets World. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:41.160 I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm Rider Strong and I'm Wilfordell. 0:08:54.679 --> 0:09:00.160 We have hit the midpoint of season six and we 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.520 are taking a break to bring you more Rewind episodes, 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.960 a new group of four episodes where we ask a 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.760 past guest to come back on the podcast and pick 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.840 any episode we've already recapped to talk about in order 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.720 to bring their POV and thoughts to Pod Meets World. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:19.040 And this week we are bringing back a former writer, director, showrunner, 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.479 and producer of Boy Meets World, a name we constantly 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.959 say when we need an answer for something we don't know. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:28.080 By this point, we should probably have merch that says 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.440 We'll have to ask Kendall about that when he's back on. 0:09:32.120 --> 0:09:33.880 So when we asked him to come back for a 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.839 be kind Rewind episode, he picked season two episode twenty three, 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.920 an emotional roller coaster home and the close of what 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.880 was the start of a David Kendall era of the show. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:47.680 So welcome back to Pod Meets World. A man near 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.880 and dear to our hearts and someone who knows where 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.280 all the bodies are buried. It's David Kendall. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:10:01.040 A Okay, can you see me? 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.320 Can you hear me? Can if you can hear it? 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:06.320 Can you hear me see me. Okay, good, I just 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:07.640 want to see if I can get you guys, just. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.720 Well, still listen to you. You're still directed, Kendall. All right, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:18.840 still here, good, welcome back. So good to see you 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.480 as always. I was really excited when I found out 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.360 that you picked this episode for us. First of all, 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:29.160 it's a real throwback for us, considering we are at 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.319 the midway point of season six. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.640 You're in middle of six now, okay, yeah, yeah. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:39.920 So going back to two is just the warmest, coziest. 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:40.800 That's what you got from it? 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.720 Blank it? Yes, what did you get from it? 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.320 It just made me sad. It made me sad for 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:47.280 in the show. 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.320 We are now, right, what do you mean? 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:53.800 Because because it's so good it is, the characters are 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.880 so like well drawn and like, yeah. 0:10:56.840 --> 0:11:02.439 It's a tight episode. Ere thing makes. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.280 Television show than we're watching right now, just two different shows. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:09.600 And I was arguably having more fun shooting season six 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.440 because we were all together in our cast. 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:13.880 But but man, it was it was like slipping into 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:14.440 a warm tub. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:15.640 And at first it was great, and then it just 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.920 made me sad. 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.640 You directed season six, right, we must have seen an 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:22.679 episode because you came back. 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:23.520 I came back. 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:24.640 I was. 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.560 I ran for two and three, I was not there 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.680 at all for four. I got into the rotation in 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.880 season five and was there through to the end. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.360 I tried to take that season. 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:39.559 Six episodes you would have directed that we've seen already. 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.120 I can't remember where you are in it. But I 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.439 picked this episode because it's the only episode that I 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:51.760 worked on as a writer, producer and director of the show. 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.040 Because it's the end of season two, and that was 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:59.360 my first season, and I, you know, I hired myself 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.880 to direct it, and uh, you know, and it was 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.199 only the second episode of television I had ever directed, 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:10.600 and so it yeah, important to me in a lot 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.120 of ways, and and and it turned out great, and 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:14.920 you know, I watched it the other night and it 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:20.560 really holds up. And also, uh, when you did the 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:25.320 first rewatch, when you showed this, yeah, it's it said 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:26.720 David Trainor had directed it. 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.640 So right, I'm curious when you were you were I've 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:31.720 let that show, I've. 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:32.720 Let that shoe. 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:34.880 I'm glad you know the date and. 0:12:34.800 --> 0:12:39.080 The time when you were producing the show and hired 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:39.960 yourself as a director. 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.360 What was the interview process like. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:42.400 It was tough? 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:43.439 Yeah, it was tough. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:43.920 It was tough. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.240 Yeah, tough questions, tough questions, but I got through it. 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:49.040 It's kind of a blur. It's kind of a blur. 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:51.800 So I'm glad we're setting the record straight. Home was 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.280 not directed by David Trainer was directed by David Kendall. 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:56.199 That is an I m d be mistakes. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.840 Well, you know, hell with them? Yeah? Or the heck 0:12:58.840 --> 0:12:59.719 with them? Can I say hell? 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:02.640 You can say whatever you want. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:04.520 Okay, Okay, you're gonna blip this out. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:14.000 We won't use it as a all right, Okay, Well, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.320 let's remind our audience what the synopsis of the show is. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.640 Sean is invited to stay with the Matthews after Chet 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.120 takes off, he starts to feel like a burden and 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.120 sneaks out. Sean ends up on mister Turner's doorstep yet again, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.160 where Turner gives him a lecture about finding direction in life. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.720 So this episode you directed, you produced, you helped write, 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.920 it was so much for you? Was this like a 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.040 super big undertaking for you? 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.679 Well, you know, at that point, it's the end of 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.400 the season, so the scripture are pretty much done, or 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:48.439 they should be. But it was just kind of a 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.839 nice thing for me just to be selfish for a moment. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.920 Is I was involved. You know, I was on the floor. 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.880 I'm running the room, I know you folks, and it's like, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.280 I'm I want to direct, and it's like, here's an opportunity. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.680 And the networks was cool with it. Michael was cool 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.480 with it, and you know, it worked out, so it 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.920 was it was also great fun. I got to throw 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.360 some visual things in there that you know, because I'm 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.920 on the floor with you guys, and I was happy 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.320 with the staging and you know I was. 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:17.240 I was really excited. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.200 And you know, looking back thousands of years later, it's 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.600 still like, hey, this is a good episode. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.400 It What was the first one you directed? You said 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.040 this was number two? 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:25.280 Oh? 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.040 I on Just the ten of Us, the Growing Plaint 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:32.280 spin off. In my previous life, I directed an episode 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.920 of Just a ten of Us. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:34.200 Cool. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.080 Do you remember if we knew we were picked up 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.520 or not? You never knew, We never knew. 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:41.720 I mean that was a point. It's like we lived 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.720 on the bubble for all those years, at least of 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.520 the years I was there, and. 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:50.240 That was part of the redoing or revamping or whatever 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.680 we did in season two. Was it was not a guaranteed. 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.120 It was not a lock. The show is not a lock, 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:57.640 and I don't know if it ever was. 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:00.600 We talk about this a lot about like how the 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:05.160 season story ideas come together. Where in the process from 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.840 a writer and director showrunner perspective, where does the idea 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.200 for what the finale of a season might be? Where 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.720 does that come in the process? Is it very early on? 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.160 Well, usually early on you have an idea of where 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.520 you want to go okay, and what the kind of 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:22.640 big markers are going to be, and what the kind 0:15:22.640 --> 0:15:25.160 of for one of a better turn, the milestone episodes 0:15:25.160 --> 0:15:28.240 are going to be where the big turns are, And 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.880 it was I can't remember where the inception of this 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.240 came from, but it was like, you know, we were 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:38.000 looking to evolve the show. Bringing in Tony was a 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.800 great addition and the chemistry that he had with everybody 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.400 was great. And again, it's a TV show, it's a comedy. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.880 We try to take the character seriously, and taking Sean's 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.280 home life seriously and his friendship with. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:53.960 Corey seriously. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.480 What would be a nice evolution And since the teachers 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:01.880 were mentors, it was it just kind of seemed organic. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:04.560 I don't I don't remember the the pulling and hauling 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.840 and and and stuff that went on in the room, 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:11.800 but it seemed like a nice logical, organic conclusion and 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.000 a way to keep people tuned into what's what's going 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.560 to happen next year? And also what's also was good 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.560 for us in the show and people running show, is 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.200 the network just going to think, what's going to happen? 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:22.840 Will this look interesting next year? Right? 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.320 So do you think from like day one at the 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.960 start of season two, was the idea at the end 0:16:27.960 --> 0:16:30.240 of this Sean's gonna end up living with mister Turner. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:30.400 Oh? 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.880 Absolutely not, because we don't know that Tony's going to 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:34.440 work out, We don't know how the chemistry is going 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.720 to be, and you know, you usually want to be 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.520 or at like I want to be, you know, eight 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:43.720 or ken stories ahead. But it was just kind of 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:48.520 working and it's, uh, it worked out nice. 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:52.760 Now we've already had the episode where Sean is going 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.200 to take the baseball bat to Turner's bike, right, that 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.080 was only that was like three or four episodes before. 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.440 This, Harley's last episode, Harley's well, the character of Harley's 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.120 last episode. 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:05.240 Yeah, yeah, I think because by then you could tell 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.280 that you guys were already planting the seeds for me, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.760 Yeah and Turner to be together that way, we. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:12.080 Were starting that and seeing how you guys worked off. 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.600 And also one of the great blessings of the show 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.680 is how much how the chemistry was between so many 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:22.159 of you of you actors, and it's like, hey, Tony's 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:25.439 stuff is looking really good with with with Ben, with Feoenie, 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:28.159 I mean, some of their their discussions, the back and 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.120 forth between uh, Turner and Foenie are just great. And 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.359 the back and forth with with Sean and Tony was 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.200 so good in that episode. Just looking at it other night, 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:41.879 there are so many things like when he gets you know, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.320 when he starts yelling at Sean and and in the 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.760 ballroom dancing line, and it's like he's yelling, but. 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.960 He's not an a hole. He's yelling at this kid. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:52.960 Who's who's screwed up, and it's like you're still on 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.720 his side, which is, you know, not a small accomplishment. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.000 That's one of the things I think watching this episode 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.000 made me realize so much about seasons. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.639 And I'm not going to sit here in Bashion season six, 0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:08.439 they're just different. They're just different. I know, but it 0:18:08.640 --> 0:18:10.400 so made me miss the adults. 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.960 It made me miss the grown ups of the show 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:15.200 because we became the grown ups of the show. So 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:19.240 Rusty and Betsy weren't there, Tony wasn't there, even Kat Thompson. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.720