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Speaker 1: And last night we went to what's called a play applot,

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Speaker 4: At the Pantagious we saw Harry Potter.

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Speaker 1: Couple things, God, First of all, the production is unreal.

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Speaker 1: It was full of kids, like it was, Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: And like I said, it was full of kids, and

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Speaker 4: What's funny is I was you two twenty last night?

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at them and I said, you're all

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Speaker 4: And then one young man named Lucas came up to me.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to Lucas, who was the first young man

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Speaker 3: Aw.

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Speaker 1: No shout out to the podcast called Oh Shut Up.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard it, they're just starting it. They're two

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Speaker 1: And it was such a cool thing to be at

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Speaker 2: Welcome to pod meets World.

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Speaker 4: I'm Daniel Fishal, I'm Rider Strong and I'm Wilfordell.

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Speaker 2: We have hit the midpoint of season six and we

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Speaker 2: So welcome back to Pod Meets World. A man near

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Speaker 4: I came back.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, hell with them? Yeah? Or the heck

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Speaker 4: It What was the first one you directed? You said

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Speaker 6: I on Just the ten of Us, the Growing Plaint

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember if we knew we were picked up

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Speaker 6: We try to take the character seriously, and taking Sean's

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Speaker 6: Absolutely not, because we don't know that Tony's going to

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Speaker 5: Was also as adults were we kind of act crazy

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Speaker 6: I like to do a show for six or seven years,

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Speaker 7: Had to grow and the characters I know, of course,

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I love how beautifully the A and B

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Speaker 2: and it just it's so well, like literally, it's one

446
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,879
Speaker 2: of the tightest episodes on TV I've ever seen. Well,

447
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: there's another layer of it.

448
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 1: There's another layer too, where there's then moments of the

449
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: c story that come into the A story with Phoenie,

450
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Speaker 1: you know, telling Eric to miss the locker and all

451
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where it's like Feoene's involved in

452
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 1: the Matthews lives too, So even that story comes in.

453
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Speaker 4: It was really great, really really well, well.

454
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 6: What's so great there's so many great things about the

455
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 6: show we're still talking about it a billion years later.

456
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 6: Is Bill is so strong that Bill can do a

457
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 6: moment and it's just you feel his present throughout it.

458
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 6: I mean, Eric Locker is just a great guy, and.

459
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: He tells you everything yes yes, yeah, it's a tiny snippet,

460
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: and tells you everything you need to know about their relationship.

461
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 2: And of course, when you know right from the from

462
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: the minute he says, I need you to do some

463
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,159
Speaker 2: yard work, you know instantly this of course is going

464
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: to be one of the three Secrets, one of the

465
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 2: Three Secrets is that he needed to get his brain

466
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Speaker 2: off of it. But also it's a fun way of feeling, like,

467
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, Phoene's getting free work. It's just so great.

468
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 2: I love I truly loved everything.

469
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Speaker 3: Going back to going back to what what Will was

470
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Speaker 3: talking about With the adults too.

471
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Speaker 5: It's really interesting to think about how much time the

472
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 5: adults are concerned about the kids.

473
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: Like they're all talking to each other.

474
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Speaker 5: They're all figured it's like Sewan's not like Seawn's life

475
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 5: experience is not happening in a vacuum. There's like this

476
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 5: sort of Greek chorus of God's you know, like the

477
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 5: adults sitting around being like what are we going to

478
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 5: do about Sean? Who's going to take care of Sean?

479
00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 5: What's happening with Seawn's dad?

480
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Speaker 3: I don't know? And like that is I really missed that?

481
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 3: Like that is so comforting.

482
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 7: How good is Darlene? How good is Darlene?

483
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 4: Phenomenal?

484
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: But it's also the thing that's so great is that

485
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 1: the keeping it another step towards how real it is.

486
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: It easily could have gone Sitcom with We're all just

487
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: so concerned about Sean.

488
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with Sean, but it was also Alan

489
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: going we can't afford this, Yeah, yeah, our family can't

490
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 4: physically afford this.

491
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Speaker 1: This is affecting us too, and man, I feel so

492
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: bad for Sean, but there comes a point where we're

493
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: not going to be able to do this anymore. So

494
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Speaker 1: it was just even another layer of realism onto it,

495
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: which is just so great.

496
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 6: But just another thing and looking at it the other

497
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,760
Speaker 6: night is the moment where Sean arrives with the cop

498
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 6: at the door or excuse me, the cat, Darling Vogel

499
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 6: and Tony Quannard having the scene and it's interrupted the

500
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 6: cops of the door. There's an act break, but it

501
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 6: really plays like five six minutes of straight ahead action

502
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 6: without any breaks in the time is just straight ahead.

503
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 6: They're talking about their relationship, the cop arrives, Kat excuses

504
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 6: herself and the two guys sit down and you see

505
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 6: this kind of fun bonding with this undercurrent of you know,

506
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 6: you're screwing up, Sewan, someone needs to be there for you,

507
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 6: and it's just and you're both hitting all the marks,

508
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 6: you're both hating all the wonderful thing.

509
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 5: That's one of my favorite scenes, like watching it back too, like,

510
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 5: because that's where I turned right.

511
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 3: Like, what do you want to know about where you are?

512
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, at that moment, you're just and then we

513
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: put our feet up.

514
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 4: I was just like, Oh, that's.

515
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 3: Like going to be such a big part of the show.

516
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 3: And you can just see it come together right there.

517
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, now they have to live together.

518
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,639
Speaker 4: That physicality is that was and I think this was

519
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: all you, David.

520
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, all the messicality of her taking his hands

521
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: and putting his hands on her face and all that

522
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: kind of Oh, it.

523
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 4: Was just was wonderful.

524
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: Really well, speaking of the adults on the show, I

525
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: want to talk to you specifically about Blake Clark, because he's.

526
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 7: Oh goodness great, Yeah, Blake is great.

527
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 2: I mean we talk about I mean, this is this

528
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 2: could almost be considered a drive by for him if

529
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: it weren't for the fact that he was a recurring

530
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 2: character on the show already. What we talk a lot

531
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: about is when we get a fantastic guest star that

532
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: pops in, has only a couple of scenes but leaves

533
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: a lasting impression. We call that like a great drive by. Yes,

534
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: he does that. He has one very short scene where

535
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: he's not even in the room with any of the

536
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 2: other characters, and it makes a dramatic impact. He has

537
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of a thinking outside the box pick

538
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: for this as an actor, because he was mostly known

539
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: as a stand up comedian. I mean, I know he

540
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: had done some home improvement, but do you remember how

541
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: you guys landed on him for this role.

542
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 6: I can't remember. I think he just read and he

543
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 6: nailed it. And so many great things about Blake, and

544
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 6: I've worked with him on other years after that is

545
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 6: and this was true in the writer's room when you're

546
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 6: working on stuff and trying to come up with stuff

547
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 6: for Blake, is like everybody ends up talking like Blake.

548
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Sean.

549
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 7: It's so infectious. It's kind of attitudes.

550
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 6: And everybody and your picture lines and your pigeon like Blake.

551
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 6: And just to answer the question from because I not

552
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 6: only did I watch the episode, I listened to your rewatch.

553
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh you listened to twenty three?

554
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 7: I did you know? I'm nerdy that way? You know?

555
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 2: Okay?

556
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 6: And that when you see uh Chet at the restaurant

557
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 6: and you see out the window that's a giant TV

558
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 6: pushed up against the window.

559
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 3: Amazing and somebody ran out.

560
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 6: And just shot some stock footage of just kind of

561
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 6: we shot the stock footage of just cars driving by,

562
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 6: and we had you know, uh, the lighting department propped

563
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 6: the TV up so it's right by the window. Wow,

564
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 6: And we put a shade over the window so you

565
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 6: eyed un't time to study it, and so it was

566
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 6: a nice little effect.

567
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 3: So, you know, really amazing.

568
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 5: I want to say shout out to our lighting department too,

569
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Speaker 5: because they're also that scene with Sean and Corey in

570
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 5: the in the bedroom. Yeah, yeah, wonderful in a way

571
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 5: that our shows usually aren't.

572
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: And the way that the black, the lighty, the shadow

573
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: is right over Sean's eyes, it's really effective. I was like,

574
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 3: actually noticed it.

575
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 5: I was like, this the show is like a noir

576
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: suddenly has like this noir look to it.

577
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: That was really cool.

578
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 6: And Ben's moment when he says he needs a home

579
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 6: and he does so cute and fun and smart and

580
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 6: funny and and you know, everybody was great in that

581
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 6: episode and Ben, uh, you know, Ben nails its it all.

582
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 5: Absolutely God when he comes out of the tree at

583
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: the end and he's like, oh God, I broke God's

584
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 5: so funny and.

585
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 7: Ben is ninety year old, man. I mean take the rolls,

586
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 7: you know.

587
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: And by the way, we will say he's also been

588
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: a high point of season six for us.

589
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 4: One of the one of the few high points of

590
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 4: season six has been seas.

591
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: He is having so much fun. He's back to very

592
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 2: neurotic Corey and that that has been really nice.

593
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 3: But he seems so young in this does doesn't he like?

594
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 5: Because I'm physically the same size, but Ben is so

595
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 5: much smaller when we started the shows, like.

596
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 7: I think his moments before his voice changed too.

597
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I remember that he came back. I think

598
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: for season three it was like, hey, how you doing.

599
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 4: It's like whoa wow?

600
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, okay, So I know we must have I

601
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: know we talked about it when we did our original recap.

602
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: I'm not as prepared to as David. I did not

603
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: re listen to it.

604
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious during your re listen, did you also

605
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: miss the adults? No?

606
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: Okay? What was in the bag that Kat left at

607
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: his house? I think we decided it must have been

608
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: a bra.

609
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 7: You decide, okay. I think it's good to not know

610
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 7: what it is.

611
00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: Oh.

612
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 7: I think to have it open for disc USh and

613
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 7: it's actually more interesting.

614
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: You're going a Tarantino exactly what we were doing. That

615
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,239
Speaker 4: glow that comes out.

616
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 7: Better to not know and not not define it.

617
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 3: Ever, say that word.

618
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 7: It's better to not define it.

619
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: Will you have a problem with panties? Panties?

620
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: People do it. It doesn't bother me really. Yeah.

621
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 5: Wait, panties is like moist, where some people like it,

622
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 5: and moist is totally fine for me.

623
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 7: But what about moist panties?

624
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: I think it was a bra. She said she has

625
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: more than one of them, and and that it was

626
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: fine to leave at his house.

627
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: There's a braw fit in that tiny little don't they fold?

628
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I meant, oh, it's not that tiny. It's a lunch bag.

629
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: It's a brown paper or lunch bag definitely fits in there.

630
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: Wait. Does he use the singular or plural?

631
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: I think he uses the plural?

632
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: Does he uses same? You say you left these or

633
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 4: you left this? Because this is a bra.

634
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 6: Let it be a mystery for the generations to ponder.

635
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, says this it's a bra.

636
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: We still think it's Fanny's.

637
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: He doesn't say these, he doesn't.

638
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 4: Okay, you got it. This is the show, Dave.

639
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 7: This is what happened? Okay, Yeah, that's.

640
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: What happens when you know, when you do a TV

641
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: show together for seven years and then you do a

642
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: podcast together for about seven years.

643
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: And your friends twenty years in the middle tour and

644
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: then tour exactly.

645
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: I know another thing we must have spent a long

646
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: time talking about, because I'm even having flashbacks as I'm

647
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: saying it. It is about cat needling Turner about marriage

648
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: and love.

649
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, we'll have a thing about that.

650
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: After the war months of dating. Yes, yes, it's a

651
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: real or get off the pot conversation? And is what

652
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: do you think.

653
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 7: Of the original line to get off.

654
00:29:59,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: That?

655
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 4: It would have been better?

656
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 7: Yeah?

657
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: What do you think? Is it was this? Looking back?

658
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Do you think that was premature of her? Or what's

659
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: your what's your take on it?

660
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's premature, but people do premature things. I mean,

661
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 7: that's the thing.

662
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 6: People say inappropriate things all the time. So and also

663
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 6: I think, and I looked at it again the other night,

664
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: she's almost joking.

665
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 7: If Tony had.

666
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: Had decided to diffuse that with a laugh, it would

667
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 6: have not got serious contes that mean you want to

668
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 6: marry me?

669
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 7: And he could have made a joke about that.

670
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 6: He took it seriously, right, you got that right?

671
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?

672
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah.

673
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 6: And also it's probably it could be inappropriate, but you know,

674
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 6: maybe that's how she felt in the moment, if we're

675
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 6: taking Kat as a real character. But also people say

676
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 6: things they shouldn't all the time.

677
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah. And and people, especially uh adults in

678
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: relationships of a certain age where you start to feel

679
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 2: the pressure of am I gonna get married? Am I

680
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: going to have a family? Every relationship starts to take

681
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: on a new level of importance. And if you think

682
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 2: you found somebody you could settle down with. I can

683
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: understand from her perspective being like, do you think you

684
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: could feel the same way about me?

685
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 6: Because gave her an opening he said forever. Yeah, and

686
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 6: it's you know, and she could just be saying, what

687
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 6: do you mean by forever? I mean, it's just I

688
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 6: don't think it was a horrible thing, you know.

689
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: And the way it ties in perfectly with the fact

690
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: that she left something and unmentionable at his house and

691
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: it bothered him so much. She's like, you don't you

692
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: don't have to do this every time I leave something

693
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: at your house that has a feeling. Yeah, that's a

694
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: feeling you would get where you're like, why is it

695
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: so offensive to you for an item of mine to

696
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: be in your home for longer than like the evening.

697
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: You don't have to bring it back to me every time,

698
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: So it's obviously been on her mind. Another thing we've

699
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: noticed is a big deal in the Boy Meets World

700
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: universe are the SA tease and we have a big

701
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: emphasis on them, especially for Eric here in season two,

702
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: Can you, David let everyone know in our audience how

703
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: vital that score was for tra.

704
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 6: It was a make or break thing. It was kind

705
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 6: of defining who you are, what your brain is. I mean,

706
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 6: it's it's it's it's crap because that doesn't define who

707
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 6: you are, who you can be. But it was really

708
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: like getting a brand in your face, like okay, what

709
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 6: your what your number is, or what it's going to be.

710
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 6: And uh, you know, I'm glad it's it's that is

711
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 6: de emphasized, you know so much, and we put enough

712
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 6: pressure on kids without this kind of horrible marker. And yeah,

713
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 6: because the show is a coming of age in so

714
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 6: many ways, and Eric is trying to redefine himself a

715
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 6: little bit, and uh, you know, see what he can do,

716
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 6: see what he can be. And Jason is great too.

717
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 6: I mean there's see you believe their friends. That's another thing,

718
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 6: their chemistry. You believe these guys were friends, and.

719
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: He was also Ryder and I have talked about how

720
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and Danielle has has We've all discussed how I learned

721
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: how to act kind of as the show was going,

722
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: and every time I'm with Jason, especially in the early episodes,

723
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: you just see the difference in the caliber of sitcom

724
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: actor for that age. I mean, Jason was working on

725
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: another level than I was at that point. He was

726
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: just so good and so natural with the comedy. And

727
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: eventually I got there. And I think one of the

728
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: reasons is because I was working with people like Jason.

729
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 3: This is his last episode, it was, right, Was this.

730
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 4: The last time we saw season two? Yeah, I don't

731
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 4: know if he came back for a season. So he

732
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 4: walks off that he does.

733
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: He does.

734
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 5: He's one of the few exits like the other way

735
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: from Phoenie's yard, like.

736
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: Camera oh my gosh.

737
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was just the whole episode is It

738
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: was great and everybody, you forget how big a cast

739
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: we have until you see an episode like this, and

740
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: there's multiple storylines going on with that all intersect, but

741
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: it seemed like we had forty.

742
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 4: People in the company when you're watching this episode.

743
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: It was really amazing to see kind of the dance

744
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: of everybody working.

745
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 4: Around and it worked. It all worked great.

746
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great episode. It was fun to see

747
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 6: Ivory ocean Ash the policeman as policemen. In Growing Pains,

748
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 6: he played a part called cop.

749
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: So you know. He was also also in Seinfeld he

750
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: played the one eyed police officer who's trying to find

751
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: newman a white whale. So he's I mean he right

752
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: when he popped on. This guy constantly plays a police.

753
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 7: Officer that's cop or policeman. Yeah.

754
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

755
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: We joke a lot about the very serious young writer

756
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: Strong and how seriously he took his craft. You were

757
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 2: there obviously dealing with some of his very first big

758
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: dramatic scenes and episodes. Right, What do you remember about

759
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 2: as the director steering the ship for young dramatic writer Strong.

760
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 6: What I remember is that his instincts were always good,

761
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 6: and he always understood it and always felt it and

762
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: always took it seriously in a good way. Those memory

763
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 6: banks are pretty dusty, I think we were probably looking

764
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: at trying to make sure it didn't get too darker introspective,

765
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: But those memory are are pretty dusty and just kind

766
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 6: of remember, you know, the stuff in the scene where

767
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 6: you know, what do you want to know about women?

768
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 6: And the moments where he says he needs to leave

769
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 6: to me. They play real, and I don't think they

770
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 6: get too melodramatic. Maybe there's some takes that that were melodramatic,

771
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 6: or maybe there's moments and run throughs that were, but

772
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 6: you know, it's I don't remember thinking, oh my goodness,

773
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 6: this is not gonna work. This guy's not on the

774
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 6: show that we're in, the same show we're doing. I mean,

775
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 6: what do you remember writer about that?

776
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: I think I think by this at this point, I

777
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 5: probably was had a lighter touch. I think it was

778
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 5: more like seasons three and four that it real they

779
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 5: started to get like you know, I mean by the

780
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 5: time Turners in the hospital, and I'm like, I feel

781
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: like that was when you had your got I'm a

782
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 5: drum yeah, godolog And that's when I think at this point,

783
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 5: as much as I wanted it to like, I feel

784
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 5: like I probably were We all had a light touch.

785
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 5: You know, and I just I just love working with Tony,

786
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 5: Like you can tell that we're just having fun and like, yeah.

787
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 7: So Tony keeps it.

788
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 6: He keeps it light, even the serious stuff, which is

789
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 6: just you know, gifted an actor he is.

790
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's what's supposed to be there.

791
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that he and Kat are supposed to be

792
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: what like early thirties, thirty two to thirty three kind

793
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: of age right now?

794
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: Sure, I think late, I don't think.

795
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 7: I don't know.

796
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: I think I was going to say mid thirties.

797
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 5: I was going to say I was going to say

798
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,240
Speaker 5: very school in their twenty really think, okay.

799
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: I I was curious where they would where they would.

800
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 7: Be I think somewhere between twenty eight and thirty three.

801
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 4: But it's like, yep, yeah, that makes sense.

802
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

803
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: Well, this episode ends on like a seemingly very promising

804
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: note that Sean is going to move in with mister Turner,

805
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: and then very quickly in season three, we get to

806
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: a mysterious motorcycle accident. Do you remember before knowing there

807
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 2: was going to be a motorcycle accident, do you remember

808
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: any of the long term ideas for a Sean Turner

809
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: living together scenario?

810
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: When was the motorcycle accident? I don't think it was

811
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 6: season three?

812
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: I think it was season four. Wasn't in three?

813
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 7: Did? I did? Think he did?

814
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 4: And three?

815
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 7: Tony was live and healthy when I left.

816
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: The show, I was, I was alive and healthy.

817
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 5: I think season three is when my mom comes back

818
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: and I go back to No, that was season four too,

819
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: wasn't the season.

820
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 6: I think season three? When does Chet have his heart attacks?

821
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 4: Was that season six?

822
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 7: Okay?

823
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 4: Yeah?

824
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, I Tony was alive, he was fine.

825
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 6: He was obeying traffic laws.

826
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 7: I guess that's.

827
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: When people are yelling at their their radio in their

828
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: phones right now.

829
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: Way, how do you not know you've seen it? How

830
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: do you now not know? Yes? I think he was.

831
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 4: Think Tony was there for all of two and all

832
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 4: of three, right right?

833
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: They moved together for all of three, yeah, and then four. Okay.

834
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: Do you remember any of your ideas for for Turner

835
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 2: going into season three? Do you remember anything of yours

836
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: that was like, here's a storyline for them that I

837
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: really want to do.

838
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 6: I know, but you asked I remember any my ideas,

839
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 6: And normally I think there's a code you don't say

840
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 6: what your jokes were or anything. But I do remember

841
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 6: the shaving cream on the I'm.

842
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: So glad you said that because I noticed it when

843
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 2: I washed it. I was like, how did I miss

844
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: that the first time? It's so funny, great.

845
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 7: I remember that that was my shaving.

846
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: His unibrow is brilliant, really good.

847
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 6: And you know, and and you know, Rider was a

848
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: good sport about it. You know, you never know how

849
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 6: someone's going to react when you just say, I'm to

850
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 6: draw attention to this. Yeah, as a teenager, so you

851
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 6: know it was.

852
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 7: It was good gag.

853
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 6: And all the s's in the refrigerator when Amy was

854
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 6: marking that, I was just I was glad to be

855
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 6: able to throw in a couple of you know, visual

856
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 6: things in that episode.

857
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 2: And then the S matches the patch on the back

858
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: of the jeans. It makes me laugh. So it made

859
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:21,919
Speaker 2: me laugh so.

860
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 4: Much, big What do you think my mom's going to do?

861
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: She's going to take it back, patch it, clean it

862
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: and put an S on it like that was oh god,

863
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: it was such a good lie.

864
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 4: I also forgot already we have to do a rewatch

865
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 4: of the rewatch of the recast of the RePOP because

866
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 4: I forgot Lily did two seasons.

867
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: I know, I thought she was only in the first

868
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: season when I see her sitting at the tables, like.

869
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 4: Oh she did too full too.

870
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought she.

871
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 4: Was on a season. Then she wasn't. And then Lindsay came.

872
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 6: On and you know, the network said, you don't need her.

873
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: You're going to uh tell her or her reps or

874
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: her parents that she's not coming back for season three.

875
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 6: That was really a wonderful moment in the show.

876
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 4: So you had to do that.

877
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: You had to do it.

878
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 6: I was instructed to do that, and so rather than

879
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 6: the network do it, I thought it would be more

880
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: appropriate for people who worked on the show to call

881
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 6: you know, her dad.

882
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: And that was you know, how did that conversation go?

883
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 6: They again, that's in dim memories, but they seemed to

884
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 6: take it well and didn't sound all that surprised, or

885
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 6: maybe it was just a professional approach, but that was

886
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 6: you know, you You've talked about it a little bit,

887
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 6: and it is amazing. The show ran for seven years

888
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 6: and it's still insanely popular. Is it wasn't treated all

889
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 6: that well by Networking Studio in terms of you know,

890
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 6: being cheap. It's just like, you don't need the little girl.

891
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 6: You're going to get rid of her, and it's just

892
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 6: a discussion. No, it's not a discussion.

893
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 7: You're going to do it.

894
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 1: I think I think her dad, whose name is also David,

895
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: probably was a little more pragmatic about it because he's

896
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: a producer, so he probably you know, like, okay, I

897
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: get ITV.

898
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: We've also discussed that Lily didn't necessarily seem like she

899
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 2: was loving Oh.

900
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 6: I had heard that she you know that the first

901
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 6: season I wasn't there, So you guys can can see

902
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 6: if this comports with your memory. Was when she heard

903
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 6: about the pickup.

904
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: She cried in front of the audience. Yeah, she started

905
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 4: balling in front of the audience.

906
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 6: Normally, that's not the reaction you want from an actor.

907
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: Where guess what, there's another season.

908
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 4: She started yelling, I don't want to do this anything. Yeah,

909
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 4: it was.

910
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 5: The bad time when we got picked up for the

911
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 5: back nine, it was it was best for her.

912
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, okay, she seriously didn't want to be there.

913
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't feel so bad now, Yeah I don't

914
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 6: feel quite so bad.

915
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: But this episode also does a really good job of

916
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: highlighting the chemistry between Will and Bill. Yes, I mean

917
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of a magical pairing. What do you remember

918
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: about noticing that chemistry and then playing to it.

919
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 6: Well, it's you know, writers are kind of in the

920
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 6: best way. Maybe this isn't the right word.

921
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 7: Are whores? Is like, if something works, we're going to

922
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 7: go for it.

923
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna write more of this.

924
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 6: You know, somebody gets the left, We're going to go

925
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 6: for this. This works great.

926
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: Maybe another word would be an opportunity writer.

927
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 6: That's okay, you're taking wrors a bad way, you know, No,

928
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 6: not as bad way, just alternatives.

929
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 7: Yes, we're sex workers.

930
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 6: We're sex workers making our customers happy.

931
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 7: Good, okay.

932
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just if this works, it's just you know,

933
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 6: it's it's your guys fault for making it work, you know,

934
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 6: and it's okay, this this is a great relationship.

935
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: We did talk about that recently, that it would would know.

936
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: It's almost every episode somewhere.

937
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: But we we talked about how we especially will will

938
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: notice that if if something gets a laugh in one episode,

939
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 2: we'll notice it again, if not the next episode, the

940
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: episode after that, and maybe even a couple of them

941
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: where it's like they worked the first time, will it

942
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: work the second time?

943
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean how many I'm what was it first season

944
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: with Danger Boy, I'm this boy.

945
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: You know they tried.

946
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: One time and then you build on it, and then

947
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: you build.

948
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 7: On I don't know if that was ever written.

949
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: It just a mister feenie with an exclamation point. Eric

950
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: stands by the fence, mister feenie. That was it.

951
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 4: And then I could just milk.

952
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 6: It and well, I'm a whore, Dave, you're a sex worker.

953
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 2: But no, I remember, he's an opportune.

954
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 6: I have.

955
00:43:59,000 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 3: Really milk.

956
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: We just have to hurry up because I have to

957
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: have an opportunist test later to make sure I'm healthy.

958
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

959
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: The uh no, the the The thing I remember distinctly

960
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: was every time opening the script and seeing Eric and

961
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Feoeni together, I was just I knew it was going

962
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: to be an awesome week.

963
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 4: I was just so happy because I knew working with Bill.

964
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: First of all, you were still kind of scared is

965
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: not the right word, but scared around Bill.

966
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 4: I mean he was into Yeah, he was the consummate professional.

967
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: He was never angry, but he was also never the

968
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: big warming Hey how was your weekend?

969
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 4: That just wasn't Bill.

970
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: Right, But he always treated you with the utmost respect.

971
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: He treated you like another actor. You knew you were

972
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: going to learn as you was like, just keep your

973
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: mouth shut and learn as much as you can. And

974
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: then when he did throw a compliment your way, it

975
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: was the most amazing thing that ever happened.

976
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 6: He lived through what you guys lived through, which is

977
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: amazing to think about that.

978
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 4: But he never told us that. We didn't know that.

979
00:44:53,920 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: He wouldn't tell We talked to years later, he said, Oh,

980
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: under no circumstances was I going to tell you that

981
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: I had been through any of this.

982
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 4: So he didn't.

983
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't think he wanted us to ask him questions.

984
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: He was like, I was not trying to relate too

985
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: much to you.

986
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 6: Has it been told on the podcast the story that

987
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 6: Bill wasn't entirely comfortable with being mister feenie, Oh yeah,

988
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 6: in the front ear and what he said to David Traynor, I.

989
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: Would love to hear it from your POV as well.

990
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 6: All right, well they might have to blit the word

991
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 6: is he said, Am I really going to have to

992
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 6: stand on the other side of this fence.

993
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 7: For five years?

994
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: Seven?

995
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 6: So that has never been told on the podcast. I

996
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 6: asked Bill about that, and I said, did you say that,

997
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 6: and he said, I.

998
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: Suppose yes, sounds about right.

999
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 7: Oh my god, now it can be told.

1000
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's incredible.

1001
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: We asked you about whether or not we at the

1002
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 2: end of By the time we were doing this finale,

1003
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: we knew whether we were picked up or not. We

1004
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: it feels like we were a show always on the bubble.

1005
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 6: I don't know if we knew it, definitely, because also

1006
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 6: it was a strategy by Disney to keep us guessing

1007
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 6: and keep us on our toes and keep us, you know,

1008
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 6: not asking for too much.

1009
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 2: Right. Wow, looking back now, with so much on your

1010
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 2: shoulders in season two, what do you think was the heart?

1011
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: What was the hardest part? Was it being a director,

1012
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: was it being a showrunner? Was it being a producer?

1013
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 6: There's nothing harder than running a show. Okay, it is

1014
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 6: a miserable job. Yeah, and it's just it's twenty four

1015
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: to seven and the pressures and it's great job. I mean,

1016
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 6: it's wonderful and it's very satisfying. But it's not like

1017
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 6: I think people in the middle of running a show aren't.

1018
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 6: I'm having the best time.

1019
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 7: I don't think you say that.

1020
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 6: When you're running a show, you do that when you're

1021
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 6: directing or when you're acting, when things are going well,

1022
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 6: but running the show is is is really difficult, and

1023
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 6: there's always pressures and it's like, you know, somebody was

1024
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 6: that teaching a class or something. Someone said, so, what's

1025
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 6: a typical day in running a show?

1026
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 7: Said? There is no typical day in a running show.

1027
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, your script could be thrown out, the

1028
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 6: outline that you thought was going to work, the network doesn't.

1029
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 7: Want to do.

1030
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 6: The actor that you thought you had can't do it,

1031
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 6: and and you're going to have to rearrange scripts so

1032
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 6: that you can keep that actor in the arc. I mean,

1033
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 6: it's just the cut is seven minutes long, and you

1034
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 6: thought it was only going to be three minutes long.

1035
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 7: And it's always.

1036
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 2: Just it's just constantly putting out fires, right.

1037
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 6: Putting out fires, And it's just, you know, is that

1038
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: script going to read well? You think we are so

1039
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 6: confident in the script, it's going to be great. Holy cow,

1040
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 6: there wasn't a laugh. We're going to be here all night,

1041
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 6: you know.

1042
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 7: It's just you don't know, and it's great, and it's great.

1043
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: Can I ask you, what do you remember what the

1044
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: biggest fire was you ever had to put out as

1045
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: the show runner a boy.

1046
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 7: They were there's so much any that they always kind

1047
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 7: of blur.

1048
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 6: And I was as I was going through getting ready

1049
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 6: for this episode and looking at the episodes that I

1050
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 6: had directed, I was remembering, I think it was the

1051
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 6: show that the Truman Show parody. I can't remember what

1052
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 6: it was called, but uh, in.

1053
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: Case you just we just recap that, Okay.

1054
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 6: A nutty show. It's it's very very nutty. And the

1055
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 6: table reading was a flat line. It was just nothing work.

1056
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: This is gonna be hell. And of course I'm not

1057
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 6: in the room now, I'm just on the stage waiting

1058
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 6: for pages. And it was like, okay, you're not going

1059
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 6: to have the script tomorrow. They're still working on it,

1060
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: so you know, what do we do? Well, we should

1061
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 6: have the first act by tomorrow, okay. And we ended

1062
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 6: up block shooting the script on two different days. We

1063
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 6: did the A story one day and the Bat story

1064
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 6: the other day, and that was just like what you do?

1065
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: You know, it was a tough episode because you have

1066
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 3: the water coming down.

1067
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: I'm the Truman Show. There's water on the set.

1068
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: There's like them climbing out of a window, and then

1069
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 5: there's a huge crowd in the student union.

1070
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: That's a complicated episode.

1071
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Oh man, So wait, I have I have a question

1072
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: for you, because you obviously are somebody who wore so

1073
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: many hats on the show. When you come back to

1074
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 1: direct something like The Truman Show and the script doesn't work.

1075
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 4: Right, do you then also go into the writer's room

1076
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 4: or are you like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

1077
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 4: no no.

1078
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 6: I get the fun job. I get to go home,

1079
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 6: go home, Okay, so you know, I get the fun job,

1080
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 6: get the show. Another moment I remember in that is

1081
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 6: the Beast story was, uh, Corey and and Sean are

1082
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 6: trying to apply foene with with a nice brunch to improve,

1083
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 6: which was funny, really funny, and and you guys were great.

1084
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 6: The last moment of it, when Phoebe is flunking them

1085
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 6: is Ben flings a waffle at the table and Bill

1086
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 6: starts to eat it. If I had told Bill, We're

1087
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 6: going to throw a waffle at you and you're going

1088
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 6: to eat it, he never would have done that. But

1089
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 6: the fact that it just kind of happened was I

1090
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 6: was very happy because it's a great gag. If you

1091
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 6: had telled William Daniels, Bill they're gonna throw a waffle

1092
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 6: at you.

1093
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 7: You're gonna eat it? He would have he would have

1094
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 7: looked at me a skance.

1095
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 2: Right, But the fact that it was spontaneous.

1096
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: Yes, and his idea, Yes, yes, they have to eat this.

1097
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1098
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 6: So you know, things happen when when you don't plan it.

1099
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 6: But I remember that week was very strange because the

1100
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 6: table reading flat line.

1101
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: And that makes sense because I did not like the

1102
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 1: A story, mostly because and we talked about this, because

1103
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: of my performance. I felt like it was it wasn't

1104
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: really played for comedy and it wasn't really played for drama,

1105
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 1: so it kind of fell somewhere in the middle.

1106
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 4: But the man the bet story was hysteric.

1107
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 7: Be sorry.

1108
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Speaker 6: It was funny, and you know, there's some good moments

1109
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 6: in it, as there always are in that, but it

1110
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 6: was by that time there was just kind of nuttiness.

1111
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 7: I mean I was not in the room for any

1112
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 7: of that.

1113
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 6: Basically, I got the script delivered and it's like, Okay,

1114
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 6: this is my job this week. But uh, you know,

1115
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 6: I don't think America was dying to see boy Me's

1116
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 6: World do a Truman Show parody.

1117
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1118
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: Now, how did you feel coming back to the show

1119
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: to direct episodes later, like did you have to bite

1120
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: your tongue sometimes with the direction they were taking some

1121
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: of the characters, or did you like you said, were

1122
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: you like, not my business, I'm going to direct with

1123
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: the handmade from.

1124
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 6: For the most part, is like, this is my job.

1125
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: I remember the episode with the young artist, the girl

1126
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 6: who's in the same.

1127
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 7: Age as but.

1128
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Speaker 2: Alexandra Nikita.

1129
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 6: Yes, And I remember getting the script and reading it

1130
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 6: at homegoing this.

1131
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 7: Makes no sense. This is what's going to happen. I

1132
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 7: don't know what's going I couldn't sleep. What is what

1133
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 7: are people going to say? Are they going to send

1134
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 7: us home?

1135
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 6: And I know it's not my job. Should I come

1136
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 6: up with ways to solve it? But that's not what

1137
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 6: I do? And so, you know, it was the table

1138
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: reading and it was fine. Yeah, there's some nice jokes,

1139
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 6: here's some moments that worked, and the notes were okay,

1140
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 6: and it was like it was a kind of a lesson,

1141
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 6: and this is your job, David. You're going to show

1142
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 6: up and you're gonna direct, direct it. And I remember

1143
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 6: a couple of things Bennett asked me while we were

1144
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 6: on the floor, is you know Corey's doing this, and

1145
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 6: then the next scene he's doing this. There's it doesn't

1146
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 6: make sense the transition, what's going on? And I, thinking

1147
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 6: on my feet, said, imagine a scene where this happened

1148
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 6: and Corey learned this and this allowed him to change

1149
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 6: his mind. This would be the connecting thread from that

1150
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 6: scene to the scene. But we don't need to see

1151
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 6: that scene. The audience needs to see that scene. So

1152
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 6: let's imagine that that scene took place.

1153
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 7: You know, so.

1154
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 5: You wrote an extra scene that you couldn't actually write

1155
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 5: and just gave it to the actor.

1156
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, so you know, it's what what you do.

1157
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 6: And and it was just a lesson as I was

1158
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 6: still kind of learning how to be a director. And

1159
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: you get the script, you make it as good as

1160
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 6: you can. You find every single moment if someone asked

1161
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 6: you for your input as a producer and and but

1162
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 6: your that's not what your job is.

1163
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 7: That's what I mean.

1164
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 6: It's like in a way a kin you guys tell

1165
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: me because I'm not an actor, of being an actor,

1166
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 6: like here's the script, I'm going to make this work

1167
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 6: because that's my job.

1168
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 2: It's so funny hearing you talk about that stuff, like

1169
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 2: thinking about now being a director myself, and how many

1170
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,240
Speaker 2: of my conversations as a director with actors focus around

1171
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 2: things I don't have any control, you know, and it

1172
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 2: being like but story wise and but character but why

1173
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: from here to here? And exactly what you said? You

1174
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: can you can give backstory, you can give subtext, you

1175
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: can give hypotheticals, but at the end of the day,

1176
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 2: if what really is something that an actor is bumping

1177
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: up against can only be changed in the writing, There's

1178
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: only so much I can do right now, and I

1179
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: will pass along your message.

1180
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 4: Are you the conduit then to then say, actor told me, Well,

1181
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 4: in a lot.

1182
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 5: Of ways, actors have more power than the director. So

1183
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: the actors have more potential to go to the showrunner

1184
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 5: or the writers and say this needs to change. The

1185
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 5: director kind of can't do that, like because the actors

1186
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: are going to have to be there the next week,

1187
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 5: and you know, been a director, you might only be

1188
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 5: there for one week, so you don't have the authority

1189
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 5: you could.

1190
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: You could maybe bring.

1191
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 5: It up, but like you're not on the poster.

1192
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1193
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 2: True, But on all the shows I have worked on,

1194
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: I have found so far that when a situation like

1195
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: that comes up and I say to them, would you

1196
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: like me to bring this up the showrunner? Every time

1197
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: the actor says, I would love that, thank you, and

1198
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: then I am able to go. Sometimes in thirty minutes

1199
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: when we break for lunch, go right up to the

1200
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: writer's room and say, hey, from the floor, this is

1201
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: what we're coming into right now, this is what this

1202
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: actor has said, this is how they're feeling. Do you

1203
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: want to incorporate do you want to change it before

1204
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: run through? Do you like, is there something you want

1205
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 2: to do to fix it so that they get what

1206
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 2: they want and you can see it for run through?

1207
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 2: Or do you want to see it as is right

1208
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: now and then you can change it overnight? Or do

1209
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,760
Speaker 2: you want to have a conversation with them? And there's

1210
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: always a solution always.

1211
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 6: And another thing I'm fond of doing is just saying

1212
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 6: your writers are very smart.

1213
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

1214
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 4: Commit try yeah, try it.

1215
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: You could surprise you and them and they're smart. If

1216
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 6: it doesn't work, they'll change it. But commit And often

1217
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: you know, and you guys know that as actors, you

1218
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 6: try something that you don't think might be wobbly or iffy,

1219
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 6: and you know what, the commitment made it work?

1220
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, We used to hear that, especially during the

1221
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: earlier days.

1222
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: We would hear Michael and some of the other writers

1223
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: and producers say stuff like that, like, if you don't commit,

1224
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's going to work or not

1225
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: right exactly, So you've got to give it one hundred

1226
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: percent and we'll see.

1227
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 4: Okay, you gave it on and it's dead. That's on us.

1228
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 6: And the hardest thing in the world in show business

1229
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 6: is getting a TV show and a series on the

1230
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 6: air and getting it in production. And you earn the

1231
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 6: right to have the actors with respect commit to everything

1232
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 6: that you've been given. Ye and you know they're obviously

1233
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 6: compromising gray areas and it's not an absolute, but that's what.

1234
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: This is what And I feel that as director, it's

1235
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 6: like they're giving this to me. I'm going to try

1236
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 6: to understand it. If I don't understand it, I'll ask

1237
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 6: before I'm out there. And it's so, what does this mean?

1238
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 6: I want to make sure I understand this, And it's

1239
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,800
Speaker 6: like commit commit.

1240
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 7: I mean it's just look at all the I'm looking

1241
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 7: at Will, all the surreal stuff that that Foudel was

1242
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 7: given that because of commitment, it made it work that

1243
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 7: it shouldn't have worked, but can't work?

1244
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: You went on to direct an uncountable amount of family TV.

1245
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 2: Well you may, what's the total? Do you know?

1246
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 6: It's over two hundred episodes as directory.

1247
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 2: Wow, Hannah Montana, even Stephens, Smart Guy, Victorious. The list

1248
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: goes on and on and on. Sydney to the Max, Yes, Yes, yes, yes.

1249
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: How is Boy Meets World the show with the biggest

1250
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: cult following? I mean we were always on the bubble.

1251
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: How is this going to show you that?

1252
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 7: I was going to ask you that?

1253
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 6: And if there's anything that you have learned from doing

1254
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 6: the show and watching the show and touring with it.

1255
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1256
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 6: I asked chat Shebt that question yesterday. Did you why

1257
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 6: is the sitcom Boy Meets World so beloved and popular?

1258
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 7: I asked chat Gibt yesterday?

1259
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: And what was the answer.

1260
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: Okay, I'll just read you the bullet points. Yeah, relatable

1261
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 6: coming of age journey, timeless life lessons, three, genuine character development,

1262
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 6: four iconic relationships Corey and Topanga and Corey and Sean,

1263
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 6: five perfect blend of comedy and heart, six nostalgia and

1264
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 6: cultural impact, and seven spin off love. That's what Chatchibt

1265
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 6: said yeah, that the Girl Girl three brought a new

1266
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:43,959
Speaker 6: audience to the original show.

1267
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, Daniel, you were on a show called

1268
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: Girl Meets World, which was after Boy Meets World.

1269
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 2: Well, tell me more about this show.

1270
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 4: I really don't want to.

1271
00:58:50,720 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, when's that rewatched? You know another thing I'd

1272
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: like to throw in the mix being an underdog. I

1273
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: think being a little bit of an underdog helps. We

1274
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: were kind of a show.

1275
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1276
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: I think I think we were a show that that

1277
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: maintained even though people didn't think it was going to last,

1278
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, and I think when you have

1279
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: I think that by definition, having a cult following must

1280
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: mean you weren't as popular or successful as some of

1281
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: the other shows were in its time, but it holds

1282
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: value for a longer period.

1283
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 6: I think i'd said before is boy Mese World? Oh

1284
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 6: I'm working on boy Mese World? It went from what

1285
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 6: is that? To is that still on?

1286
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 2: And to oh my gosh, you worked on Boys I know.

1287
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 6: I remember when we did the picketing the writers Gil

1288
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 6: Yes ticketing day and and fans showed up.

1289
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 7: I mean, that was incredible.

1290
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 6: The other thing that CHATCHYBT missed because it's it's just

1291
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 6: a machine. Is the chemistry is the so much great chemistry.

1292
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: Now we never got it when we were on the air,

1293
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: because it was always we came on TGIF and all

1294
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 1: the press, everything was all JLIL and family matters. And

1295
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: then they left and we were maybe it's gonna be

1296
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: us and then Sabrina comes on and we're like, what

1297
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 1: the actual is happening?

1298
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 4: We're now they're getting all the press. We were always skipped.

1299
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: We were always skipped, and I think there is something

1300
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: to that to people at first, like, well, Boy Meets

1301
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: World was my favorite, and then it just kind of

1302
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: kept growing and growing, and then I think it was

1303
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: the second round. Was it ABC Family in the second

1304
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: round or did it go right to Disney.

1305
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 4: Channel the second round? Disney Channel wherever re aired it.

1306
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: I think that's really where because then it was on

1307
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: MTV and Disney Channel and all these different plays, and

1308
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: I think by that point the second run is really

1309
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: where the people started to and it.

1310
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 6: Was a really strong ensemble. I think the other TJF

1311
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 6: shows were more geared towards one or two characters, and

1312
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 6: this was about a group of friends growing up and

1313
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 6: mentors and life lessons.

1314
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 7: But that's the chemistry.

1315
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: I think there's also something to the fact that there

1316
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: was very little, if anything about our show that was kitchy,

1317
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: where it was like Sabrina was Sabrina. But it was

1318
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: always also about magic, right, you know, a lot of

1319
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: there was always some kind of little hook and they

1320
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 1: were magical.

1321
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 4: They were this.

1322
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: We were just it was a family show. There was

1323
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Speaker 1: a bunch of people growing up together. There's a great

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Speaker 1: line writer and I were talking about what we all were.

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Speaker 1: But I went to go see The Harry Potter and

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Speaker 1: the Curse of the Golden Child or whatever it's called

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Speaker 1: last night at the Pantagious and there's a line where

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Speaker 1: the two of the characters are talking and one of

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Speaker 1: them says the other, I always thought being a parent

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Speaker 1: was the hardest job in the world.

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Speaker 4: It's not. It's growing up. Growing up is the hardest

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Speaker 4: job in the world.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's something about watching especially Corey and

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Speaker 1: Sean and Corey and sewn at Tapanga all growing up

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Speaker 1: together with the same age of the people that are

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Speaker 1: watching the show. Yes, that was the crux of the show,

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Speaker 1: as we're all growing up together as opposed to and

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Speaker 1: they're all great shows as opposed to you're watching me

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be a witch. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: those are two very different things, and I think one

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Speaker 1: of them sustains because growing up is growing up, no

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Speaker 1: matter when you're doing it. So I think that's another

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Speaker 1: reason why the show has continued to last for as

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Speaker 1: long as it has.

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Speaker 6: And also, the people who were our audience who grew

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Speaker 6: with the show are now in their thirties and forties,

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Speaker 6: and the people who are who run the world now,

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Speaker 6: you know, it's just like that's the group that has

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Speaker 6: taken their place front and center in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, one of the other things that chat GPT missed

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Speaker 2: is David Kendall. Yes, you, David Kendall is one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons Boy Meets World is still being talked about.

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Speaker 2: You were obviously such an instrumental part of our show,

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Speaker 2: and you wore so many hats. We absolutely love you,

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you, Thank you for being here. You're still

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Speaker 2: the very first person we name when we go. You

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Speaker 2: know what we should we need to know the answer

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Speaker 2: to this, we got We gotta Kendall. Kend Kendall will know.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm embarrassed, but.

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Speaker 4: This was directed by David TRANP.

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Speaker 2: I will do that because I am d d You

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Speaker 2: know what, I think you probably could email I m

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Speaker 2: dB and get this corrected.

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Speaker 3: He's got two hundred episodes of television. What's one?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, David. Always always a pleasure to see you

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Speaker 2: and spend time with you.

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Speaker 7: I love you guys, you know that.

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Speaker 4: And can we do a lunch?

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Speaker 7: What are you doing now?

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Speaker 2: One more podcast?

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Speaker 4: We're working?

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Speaker 3: Dave?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, good so soon. Loved you all, loved your

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Speaker 6: spouses and children, those of you that have them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much, David. I love how how

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Speaker 2: much detail he knew about that episod, even though David

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Speaker 2: Trayner now it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: It's just hearing him talk about it.

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Speaker 1: You think about how rare it truly is to have

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Speaker 1: somebody who's executive producing, writing, and directing. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: get here, you're now in like the Seinfeld kind of

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Speaker 1: there's a handful of people that do it.

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Speaker 4: I mean Tim Allen didn't do that for for Home Improvement.

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Speaker 1: I mean all the biggest sitcoms, they weren't writing direct

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Speaker 1: I mean it's very rarefied air and television to wear

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Speaker 1: all three of those hats.

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Speaker 2: At the same and now it's shocking that he was like,

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Speaker 2: there's no harder job in the world. This is not

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Speaker 2: the shocking party. There's no harder job in the entertainment

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Speaker 2: universe than show running. And then he was like, and

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Speaker 2: so I was show running and decided let me direct

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Speaker 2: this one.

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Speaker 5: But I remember talking to him when we were when

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Speaker 5: we were at the strike and asking him like, what

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Speaker 5: do you know, because it was always kind of surprising

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Speaker 5: to me that he stuck with directing, because he started

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Speaker 5: as a writer on Growing Pains and then you know,

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Speaker 5: got to be a showrunner.

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Speaker 3: And but he was like, no, no, directing is why

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Speaker 3: you do this. He just working with actors.

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Speaker 5: He loves being on set. And it's cool because I

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Speaker 5: feel the same way. You know, like whiting is kind

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Speaker 5: of it's like a means to an end.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: It's like you want to tell stories, so you have

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Speaker 5: to write to get it out. But like it's lonely

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Speaker 5: or you're in a room and it's competitive, it's like

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Speaker 5: it's hard, you know, whereas directing, even when it's hard,

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Speaker 5: it feels like you're just I don't know, it's so exciting.

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Speaker 5: It's so exciting to be on a set and a

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Speaker 5: problem solve in real time with actors and your crew.

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Speaker 5: It's so fun, even when it's hard, it's fun, whereas

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Speaker 5: I think show running it's really thankless.

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Speaker 2: Totally.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if either of you had to make a guess,

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Speaker 1: why do you think Michael never directed an episode? That's

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Speaker 1: a really good question, because I mean he basically was

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Speaker 1: kind of doing it anyway a lot of the time.

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Speaker 1: So why do you think he never took the reins

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Speaker 1: of one, I mean a special one that meant something

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Speaker 1: to him. It's kind of now that I'm thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: seems odd that he never directed an episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: That is a good question something only can be answered.

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Speaker 3: Jacobs.

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Speaker 5: Well, he did end up directing a movie, right, Yeah, relatively,

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Speaker 5: And so he directed a lot of theater too, didn't

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Speaker 5: he No?

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought he directed some of the plays that

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Speaker 4: he thinks. Oh, I thought he did.

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I there's I know there were there were there

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Speaker 5: were complaints from the d g A a lot h.

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Speaker 3: That he was overstepping uh.

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Speaker 5: And I mean, you know, I remember like talking to

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Speaker 5: people that DJA like how oh yeah, that we used

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Speaker 5: to get calls about Michael all the time, because directors

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Speaker 5: or director's assistants would be able to like call and

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Speaker 5: say this person should not be doing this job, overstepping

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Speaker 5: their bounds.

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Speaker 1: But oh, he directed an episode of My Two Dads,

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Speaker 1: so he that episode, so yeah why not?

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Speaker 4: Maybe yeah maybe, I mean it's true.

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Speaker 1: He could have could have hated it, so we'll have

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Speaker 1: to ask him someday.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 2: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 2: on Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us

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Speaker 2: your emails pod Meets World Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 2: And we have got merch.

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Speaker 4: I got nothing merch.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you got nothing nothing.

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Speaker 5: We've emptied the merch bucket, emptied the merch bucket.

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Speaker 4: I get merchie.

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Speaker 3: Merch just go back to the original. What did you

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Speaker 3: say we used to just go merch.

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Speaker 4: March something like that. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Those are just sounds more than anything else. And he

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Speaker 1: Kendall to direct me.

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Speaker 2: Pod Meets Worldshow dot com will send us out.

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Speaker 4: We love you all, pod dismissed.

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Speaker 1: Pod Meats World is nheart podcast producer and hosted by

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Speaker 1: Danielle Fischel, Wilfredell and Ryder Strong. Executive producers Jensen parp

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Speaker 1: and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo,

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Speaker 1: producer and editor, Tara sudbachsch producer, Maddie Moore, engineer and

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Speaker 1: Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song

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Speaker 1: is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon and you can follow

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