1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The volume. It's the Colin Coward Podcast presented by Fan 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Duel Football seasons in full gear. No better place to 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: get in on the action than Fan Duel. Fan Duel 4 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: App is safe, You get paid fast, A lot of 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: ways to play the spread, the money line, team totals, players, props, 6 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff over unders, jump into the action, 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: same game. Parlays are my favorite. Just use the promo 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: code Colin and download the Fan Duel app today. All right, 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: welcome in Wednesday Podcast Joe Burrow for his twenty minute 10 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: spot finally beat the Cleveland Browns. Good for him. You 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: know something I talk about pretty regularly on the show 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: is I think football is getting smarter and doesn't really 13 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: matter what business you're in, things change, right. You know, 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: I'm in the cable TV business, and we have something 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: called chord cutting where a lot of young people are 16 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: just getting rid of their cable and they're moving to 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: streaming or YouTube TV, and you have to adapt constantly. 18 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: Even now, among streaming companies who lose your Netflix, your Disneys, 19 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: they're losing billions of dollars. Now. It's very, very hyper competitive, 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: and people are starting to say, my streaming bill costs 21 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: more than my cable bill and I get more sports 22 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: on cable. And you know, I look at the NFL 23 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: right now, and how do you tell if you've got 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: a really, really great coach, Because offense is obviously the 25 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: key to this thing. Seventy percent of coaches now head 26 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: coaches are offensive coaches, and they're having a lot more 27 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: success than defensive coaches. How do you know if you 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: have a great coach in the National Football League? My 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: answer would be when they make you think for an 30 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: extended period of time that an incredibly average player is 31 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: really special. And that's why I think Mike McDaniel of 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: Miami may be our next genius coach. He comes from 33 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: the Kyle Shanahan tree. That it is remarkable that Tua 34 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 1: when he has to play trailing against San Francisco, trailing 35 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: against the Chargers with a fairly decent pass rush, not 36 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: only how ordinary he looks, he looks like a third 37 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: string quarterback. You could argue he looks like a college 38 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: quarterback not physically good enough to be in the NFL. 39 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never heard of a quarterback starting a 40 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: game like three for seventeen. I've never heard of that 41 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: from a backup. But Mike McDaniel still has TWA despite 42 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: his last two starts disasters, completing sixty six percent of 43 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: his throws, two hundred and seventy five yards a game, 44 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: twenty two tds and five picks. I mean, we think 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: in New York, Brian Dable is a really good coach. 46 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: He took Josh Allen to another level from is this 47 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: guy going to make the league? To an MVP level player? 48 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: But even he is limited with Daniel Jones after about 49 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: six starts, Daniel Jones has an absolute ceiling. When I 50 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: look at the Tuah story, it's really a Mike McDaniels story. 51 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Can you imagine how good Miami would be with this 52 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: coach if they had Herbert Burrow. I mean, last two weeks, 53 00:03:53,800 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Tua isn't an NFL quarterback, small and athletic, brittle, overwhelmed. 54 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: We're very lucky football is giving us. I think Lincoln 55 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Riley at the college level, similarly, is just smarter than 56 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: almost anything we've ever seen offensively at the college level. 57 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: And where did Mike McDaniel come from San Francisco Kyle Shanahan, 58 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: Look at what he's doing with Brock Prudy. He got 59 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: Garoppolo to a Super Bowl. I like Jimmy more than 60 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: most people, but he has a clear ceiling. They don't 61 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: throw the ball up the sideline with Garoppolo. When you 62 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: look at Mike McDaniel and Kyle Shanahan, they're gonna humiliate 63 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: a lot of defensive coaches going forward. We have coaches 64 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: now who are completely next level, and a lot of 65 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: this is just due to safety. I mean, Nick Saban 66 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: acknowledges now he can't keep people in the twenties. If 67 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,799 Speaker 1: you have an NFL quarterback, Saban can't. College level can't. 68 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: But I look at this too, a Mike McDaniel's story, 69 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: and we have ourselves a borderline offensive genius in Miami. 70 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: This coach is really really special. So the Monday night 71 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: game between the Patriots and Arizona, Kyler Murray goes out 72 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: and we get stuck with a backup quarterback Colt McCoy. 73 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to embellish, but I don't remember a 74 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: year in my life. And maybe I'm getting older and 75 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: my memory is fuzzier, but I don't remember a year 76 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: in my life. There have been more ugly, unwatchable standalone 77 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: football games now. The one o'clock window or ten am window. 78 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: Depending on what coach you live on, that window is 79 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: still compelling. You don't necessarily have the best teams, but 80 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: you have seven or eight games ending at the same time, 81 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: so there's always a couple of games that are fascinating. 82 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: But we have now like a pretty regular trend where 83 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: the standalone games when that's the only one you get, 84 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: are really really hard to watch. And why now the 85 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: ratings aren't going down. Ratings are up this year largely 86 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: because legalized sports gambling has had a jet fuel. People 87 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: stand around and sit around and watch a game longer 88 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: because they've got some money on it. And as more 89 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: states roll out legalized gambling, that's going to be a 90 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: rocket booster for television ratings in college and pro football, 91 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: especially pro football. But I think one of the things 92 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: that's happening, and I think about this a lot, is 93 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: we know quarterback play is better than ever. We're getting 94 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: more talented, quality quarterback play. College and pro football. Kids 95 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: now have ten thousand snaps by the time they're twelve 96 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: and thirteen years old, So it's not that the quarterback 97 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: play is going backwards or regressing. We've had almost fifty 98 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: five quarterbacks play this year I think there's two things happening. 99 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Athletes are getting bigger, stronger, and faster. You see it 100 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: offensively with the number of players now who routinely make 101 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: one hand grabs. Athletes are just better, taller, faster, longer, stronger, 102 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: more electric. And that means also defensive players are stronger, better, nutrition, faster. 103 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: The collisions are worse, and so part of it is 104 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: there are more gnarly collisions, more quarterbacks, even the big ones, 105 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: getting hurt, and more backups play. And they also think 106 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: there's another thing happening, and I think I've discussed this 107 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: on television on FS one before, is that the NFL 108 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: is such a big business now that owners are all billionaires. 109 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: All of them are billionaires, Meaning writing a thirty five 110 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: million dollar check to get rid of a coach after 111 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: one or two years is a rounding air. You're seeing 112 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: staffs get blown up faster, more often, coordinators being fired 113 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: more regularly more often, and the rusher in this billion 114 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: dollar business to win. Now you're playing quarterbacks sooner than 115 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: ever before they come out of college with one year 116 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: starting football boom. Get him to play, and the quarterback play, 117 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, justin fields is really talented, but it's rough. 118 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: We're watching him learn on the job. We watched Trey 119 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Lance for a couple of games. He's learning how to 120 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: esthetically throw the football right on the job. So you 121 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: have this demand to win instantly, more coaches fired, players 122 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: being asked to play sooner, more injuries, backups play, and 123 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: it becomes really really ugly football regularly. I mean, I 124 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: sat through every second of the Patriots Arizona. I know 125 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: it's my job. I still find it compelling to some degree, 126 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: but this does feel like it's becoming a more regular trend. 127 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: Standalone games, when you're forced to watch one game, there's 128 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: more ugly ones, more backups, more brand new coaching staffs, 129 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: more new coordinators, and it makes for sometimes really ugly football. 130 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: All Right, it's Joe Burrow, our weekly visit. This is 131 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,599 Speaker 1: an embarrassing question. So you finally beat the Browns? I 132 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: should know this year from Ohio. This is embarrassing. This 133 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: is an embarrassing moment. I've never asked you this. Did 134 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: you grow up a Browns or a Bengals fan? I 135 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: wasn't really a fan of the NFL grown up. I 136 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: was more of a college football fan. I didn't watch 137 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I like the I like Drew Brees. I like the Saints, 138 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: but I didn't you know, I moved around a lot 139 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: when I was really little. Yea, and my whole wife 140 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: and my whole family was just college football. So I 141 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: was more of a Cornhusker fan. Yeah, you know. Urban 142 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 1: Meyer told me that one time before he took the 143 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Jags job. He said, I watched film on Sunday. I 144 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: don't even watch the NFL. I warned him. I said, 145 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's a thing you should make public, 146 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: Urban before you take an NFL job. It's kind of 147 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: a complicated, editive league. So it was your twenty sixth birthday? 148 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Is that today? It was Saturday? Okay? I think so, 149 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: like in season? Did you even get cake or is 150 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: that some sort of sugar free zone thing? I got 151 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: a pumpkin pie. Pumpkin comes from the earth. It's healthy. Yeah, 152 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: there you go. That's what my wife says. If the 153 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: ship comes from my ground, you can eat it. Yeah. 154 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: So this was for whatever reason, mostly Miles Garrett. This 155 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: had been a really tough matchup a divisional rival Ohio. 156 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: This had just been you had a breakthrough moment. What 157 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: was it? Well? Our defense played great, The entire game. 158 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: We're able to get stops and get up the fuels 159 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: while we figured it out on offense. You know, the 160 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: first quarter was a struggle, but after that we started 161 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: to move the ball really well and move the ball 162 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: down the field and and hit explosive plays, and so 163 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: our defense really kept his in it until in our 164 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: offense started clicking, you're gonna face Brady this week? Does 165 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: it mean anything? Just the next game? Just the next game? 166 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: That's a tom answer. That is such a play. Well, 167 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: I think if you get if you get to you know, 168 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: something I was really focused on coming into the league 169 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: is if you get to like, oh I grew up 170 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: watching this guy or you know, I really liked him 171 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: growing up, I think you lose your competitive advantage when 172 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: you're out on the field, and so I really tried to, 173 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, limit limit that when I was able to 174 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: come into the league. And I think it's it's served me. Well. 175 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: You think you just coming into the league, you literally 176 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: had made a decision You're not going to be a 177 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: fan boy. Yeah yeah, And I'm a saying of you know, 178 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: people that play the game really well. But as far 179 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: as me personally, I think I can stack myself up 180 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: with just about any one of them. So Zach Taylor. 181 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: There's an article in The Athletic they were talking about 182 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: Zach took some of your LSU offense and moved it 183 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: to the Bengals. I mean, we're seeing Russell Wilson struggle, 184 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: new coach, new system. If if I you know, I 185 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: don't sit there and Peru's playbooks, but if I said, okay, 186 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: tell me two or three things that if you could 187 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: have them the rest of your career offensively, that just 188 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: make it easier. Really good players alongside me, guys like 189 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: Jamar and TV and T and Joe Mixon and the 190 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: offensive line that we have. That's what makes it the easiest. 191 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: On quarterbacks. When you can go out there and I 192 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: know exactly what your guys are gonna do every play, 193 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: know they're gonna play really, really hard, and then you have, 194 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, some of the best guys in the league 195 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: on the outside to go make plays for you. It 196 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: makes my job easy. There was a moment last week 197 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 1: I thought it was really impressive where Baker Mayfield was 198 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: literally in Los Angeles forty eight hours and went out 199 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: and played pretty good football. And as good as you are, 200 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: you came off an injury the first couple of weeks. 201 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: It's just not right. It's hard. I sat on the air, 202 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: it felt like a remarkable achievement. Did you see it 203 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: and what did you make of it? I watched the 204 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: first half of it, you know, and then I got 205 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: a little too tired and had to head to sleep. 206 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: But it's always you know that when somebody gets on 207 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: a new team very quickly and comes into the game 208 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: has to figure out how to operate. And then when 209 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: a backup, when a starting quarterback gets hurt in the 210 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: middle of the game and a backup has to go 211 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: in and play really well. Those are two very similar situations, 212 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: I think, And you know, whenever somebody can go on 213 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: and play really well in that kind of situation, and 214 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: I have a lot of admiration for that because they 215 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, they're not getting the reps in practice. In 216 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,599 Speaker 1: Baker's situation, he didn't get any reps with him. He 217 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: probably through twenty five thirty balls to rams guys when 218 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: when he got there and ask go out and play 219 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: like that, and on national TV. I had a lot 220 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: of respect for what he did. Our National TV games, 221 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: different timeouts longer. Do you feel timeouts long. Yeah, you 222 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: feel you gotta keep yourself warm. There's a lot more 223 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: TV timeouts, keep yourself engaged. It just feels like a 224 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: longer game. So now you're getting into a time where 225 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: you've played your best football. Now we're getting into December. 226 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: Everybody has tape on you, not all your teammates are healthy. 227 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: Compare first year mid December to now Compare last year. 228 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Is it starting to feel bubble up like last year's role. Yeah, 229 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: we're starting to just know down the stretch. Last year, 230 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: we just found ways to win games. Wasn't always pretty 231 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: in some games we had high scoring affairs, but you know, 232 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: we just found ways to win games, and we're starting 233 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: to do that now. We're being able to win games 234 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, whether it's with our defense 235 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: and in our running game, or throwing the football scoring 236 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: a lot of points. We're just adapting to the situation 237 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: at hand very quickly on Sundays and figuring out ways 238 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: to get it done. So this sounds odd, but in 239 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: the college game, Joe, you play in mostly the same 240 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: weather you played in the South. It was either domed 241 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: or warm. In the NFL, you can go from Tampa 242 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: one week to Foxborough next to Buffalo. Yeah it is different, 243 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: right that does it change for you? Yeah, you have 244 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: to play the game slightly slightly differently, whether it's your 245 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: your operation on the sideline to keep your body warm 246 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: to be able to go into your job, or whether 247 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: it's you know, maybe trying to push a ball into 248 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: a window that on a non windy day you would try, 249 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: but maybe if it's a really windy day, you might 250 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: not try it. 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So you guys have been 297 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: a very good second half team. It's funny how this 298 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: season works. Early in the year, you were getting third 299 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: and elevens. You were getting behind the chains. It was 300 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: something that was driving you crazy. You were trailing in games. 301 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: You've become a better starting team. You're also a very 302 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: good finishing team. Obviously, if it was simple, everybody would 303 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: start quickly. So I'm not sure if I've asked you this, 304 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: Do you like to come into a game and have 305 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: like twelve scripted plays? Take take our listeners to this? 306 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: Do you come in and kind of know the first 307 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: series what you're going to run in order? Yeah, every 308 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: team has, I think it's usually ten to fifteen plays 309 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: that are scripted, and then you have your your first 310 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: third and short third and medium third and long so 311 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: you know you know kind of what's going to come 312 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: up in certain situations. You have your first red zone 313 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: calls that you like, so when you get down there, 314 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: you kind of know what to expect as far as 315 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: defense wise, play wise, what you're going to see, and 316 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: that's where that's where the preparation comes in. Will you 317 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: run those plays again at a later moment in the game. 318 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,479 Speaker 1: Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. You know, some of 319 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: them are are one and dunes and some of them 320 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: are or bass plays that you just run all the time. 321 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: So it just depends. Are you at a point now 322 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: with Zach take me to where you're in game? Communication 323 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: is in terms of I want to run this play now, 324 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: you know it kind of it kind of depends some games. 325 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: There's some a look that I see that I think 326 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: a certain play would be really good against. And I 327 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: think what is great about Zach is that he trusts 328 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: me enough and trust what I'm seeing on the field 329 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: enough to, you know, give that play a shot, or 330 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: if it if he doesn't want to call it, he 331 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: explains why and what situation maybe would rather have that play. 332 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: And so the communication between and me and our coaches 333 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: is exactly what you want as a quarterback. It just 334 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: gives you a lot of trust that your coaching staff is, 335 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, doing all the work that they can and 336 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: will do to put you in the best position to succeed. 337 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: I've heard it said that early a quarterback plays the game. 338 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: Later he manipulates it. Do you feel now you are 339 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: more manipulating the game? Yeah, that's You start off every 340 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: game pretty pretty similar. You're trying to get a feel 341 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: for you know, because you can watch tape, but it's 342 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: really different once you're out there. So you're trying to 343 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: get a feel for guys, speed, guys, drop angles, leverage, 344 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: you know how much time you're gonna have in the pocket, 345 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 1: and all that kind of plays into how you end 346 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: up playing the game later on. So this week, Mahomes 347 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: had a ridiculous play where it looked like he was 348 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,719 Speaker 1: throwing a grenade out of a foxhole. Yeah, and I'm like, 349 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the hell was that? Do you think he practiced that? Yeah, 350 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure he has at some point. I'm sure he 351 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: just didn't throw it out there. I'm sure he practices 352 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff that you see on some 353 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: days that really nobody else is doing. Whether he's just 354 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: like mess around and having fun in before practice, I'm 355 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: sure he tries all that stuff beforehand. So you've done 356 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: something at practice that you haven't done in a game, right, Yeah? Yeah? 357 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: Would I think that's how you grow as a players. 358 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: You you try things out in practice that you think 359 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: might work, and then you find out, Okay, this needs 360 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: a little more work before I deploy it, or I'm 361 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: feeling really comfortable in this technique to go and deploy 362 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 1: it in this situation on game day. And so you 363 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: practice all that stuff too. Whatever situation you might be in, 364 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: you can you can pull it out if you need it. 365 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, you were pushed out of 366 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: the pocket to your left. I forget what game it was, 367 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: and I watched it and I thought, I wonder and 368 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: the defender was on your hip, and I thought, I 369 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: wonder if Joe's ever considered just switching the ball to 370 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: his left hand and throwing it out a bounce. Have 371 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: you we have? We have practiced that before in case 372 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: that situation does come up. Wow. Yeah, so you never 373 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: you never know what you might need. I haven't needed to, 374 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: but I've practiced it in case I do. So you 375 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: can throw a left handed spiral for some distance. No, 376 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: I know, I can get it out of pounds if 377 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: he had to hold my right arm. But I'm not 378 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm not throwing a tan yard out or anything like that. 379 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: So you've said before, Um, you got compared to Batman 380 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: last week. You're a big superhero fan. So my only 381 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: knock is that it was mostly his gadgets. He didn't 382 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: have a huge physique. You know, he was wealthy and 383 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: he had he was almost like a trust fun kid 384 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: with a bat signal. It was a lot of whereas 385 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: I always felt like everybody else had something speed, strength. 386 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: But there was a peculiar fascination with Batman because I 387 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: thought he was the funniest. He was kind of weird 388 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: and funny, and I kind of liked Batman of the superheroes. 389 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: I've had this discussion with my son, if you had 390 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: this is weird, But I've said, if you had one 391 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: superhero trait, what would it be? Now A lot of 392 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: people say, oh, I'd be invisible, And I tell my 393 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: son the problem is you'd hear people talk about you 394 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: and they would say awful things and it would ruin 395 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: your self esteem. And then people say, well, what if 396 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: you could fly? And I say yeah, but if you 397 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: could fly, then you'd be the boy in the neighborhood 398 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: that could fly, and you'd be like weird and like 399 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: you couldn't go out. That's my reasoning. If I could 400 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: give you one superhero quality, what would it be? Teleportation? Explain, Well, 401 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't it If you want to go to the grocery store, 402 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: you just pop up in the grocery store and grab 403 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: your stuff and then pop right back home. You want 404 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: to go on a cross country road trip, just pop 405 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: over to California real quick and then pop right back. 406 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: See my son talks about stuff like that. Do you 407 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: do you think that's a in in your lifetime? Will 408 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: you believe that will happen. No, okay, no, okay, it 409 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: would be sick. I always when people say we could 410 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: live on Mars in our lifetime. My Takeawayszowa's I don't 411 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: like heights, Like, why would I want to go to Mars? 412 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: I don't even like being another space needle. I'm from Seattle, Like, 413 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: it's sick. I've got to go up in space. It'd 414 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: be pretty cool, you would. Yeah, that'd be a really 415 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: cool experience, all right. Finally, so it is a weird 416 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: time of the year where it gets really intense, Like 417 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 1: I'm watching the World Cup and it's really intense, like 418 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: I'm watching Mac Jones scream at his coach, and football 419 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: in December is like the weather socks. Your teammates are hurt. 420 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: Um can you get Can you extract a little joy 421 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: at this time of the year or is it do 422 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: you feel like, okay, this stuff is this is do 423 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: or die stuff? Yeah? Wins, wins are still wins. You 424 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: know those postgame locker rooms after wins or why you 425 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: play the game, and they're so incredible. But also I 426 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: think why we're so good as a team is we 427 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: know when to lock in, but we also know when 428 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: to have fun both on the field and off. You know, 429 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: I really enjoy going to practice every day, and we 430 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: know when we need to to lock in and get 431 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: our work in, you know when team periods and group 432 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: install periods and stuff like that. But you know, we 433 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: also have a lot of fun in stretching individual all 434 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, and so we we really make it fun 435 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: to come to work every day. Yeah, when you fly 436 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: into Tampa, say what do you do on Saturday night? 437 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: What does the team do? Um? We usually watch college 438 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: games in the in the dining room, eat together. Some 439 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: guys will find a restaurant the area in order to 440 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 1: take out and bring it back to the hotel. Some 441 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: guys will go to dinner and uh, you know, those 442 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: are fun, Those are fun nights. Yeah, well, you have 443 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a young team. Most of you guys are kind of 444 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: generationally the same. Dude, who is the oldest guy in 445 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: the team? Um? I think Clark are long snapper or 446 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Kevin are one of our punters. Those guys have been 447 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: here for a while. Yeah, all right, Joe go get him. 448 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Thanks man, Yeah, I appreciate it you guys. 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