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<v Speaker 2>Final Hour on this Tuesday, Dan and the Danets Dan

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<v Speaker 2>up here in a little bit. He was on the

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<v Speaker 2>call for the Yankees game against the Royals, won by

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<v Speaker 2>the Royals. You got playoff baseball this afternoon. Phillies at

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<v Speaker 2>the Mets five Eastern Dodgers padres tonight. NHL season opens tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Chiefs handled the Saints twenty six thirteen and they stay undefeated.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we'll all check in with the Colts. Colts with

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets coming up, as they've made a decision with

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<v Speaker 2>Robert Sala. They have decided to fire Robert Sala. And

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<v Speaker 2>here we are five games in, so we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 2>somebody who covers the team that'll be in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Last team to start five and oh and miss the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs the twenty sixteen Vikings. Last team to start five

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<v Speaker 2>and OHO and win the Super Bowl was the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen Broncos. As we look at to Vikings undefeated, you

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<v Speaker 2>also have the Kansas City Chiefs undefeated as well. Eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven to seven three DP show email address DP at

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<v Speaker 2>if you're watching on Peacock and our radio affiliates around

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<v Speaker 2>the country. So back to Robert Sala. He was fired

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour ago. Brian Costello covers the Jets for

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Post kind enough to join us on

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<v Speaker 2>short notice? How did we get to this point? Brian?

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<v Speaker 2>Was he with us?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think he's ready just yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Then? Oh, okay, all right, we'll get to Brian here

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<v Speaker 2>coming up in a moment. Stat of the Day brought

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<v Speaker 4>What's one weird thing? How tenuous was this? The Jets

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<v Speaker 4>lose to the Broncos by one point. They had a

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<v Speaker 4>comeback the other day and they lost by six. So

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<v Speaker 4>because of seven points, you fire your head coach because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think a four and one team as far

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<v Speaker 4>as a coach, I know it's a loss of a loss,

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<v Speaker 4>but doesn't feel that far away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, isn't he like twenty and thirty six? Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I got fired. Well, let me bring

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<v Speaker 2>in Brian Costello covers the Jets for the New York Post.

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<v Speaker 2>How did we get to this point, Brian.

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<v Speaker 5>Dan, I'm still processing it, but you know, I think

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<v Speaker 5>this season, there was such high expectations for the Jets

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<v Speaker 5>with Aaron Rodgers coming back, lots of super Bowl talk,

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<v Speaker 5>and they've looked They looked bad the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it was a one point lost to Denver,

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<v Speaker 5>and if Greg Zerline makes a fifty yard field goal,

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<v Speaker 5>maybe things are different. But they didn't. They had fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>penalties in that game, thirteen that were accepted, five fallse starts,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, there's a clamoring there was. The fans

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<v Speaker 5>were starting to get restless, and I think Woody Johnson

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<v Speaker 5>listens to the fans. I think he spends a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of time on Twitter and he has people in his

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<v Speaker 5>family that do and I think he you know that Sunday.

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<v Speaker 5>I also think, Dan, you can't overlook the game being

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<v Speaker 5>in London on Sunday. He was the ambassador of the

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<v Speaker 5>United Kingdom. He know, he's got a lot of friends

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<v Speaker 5>over there. I'm sure he was embarrassed with the way

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<v Speaker 5>they played and that probably played a factor in this

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<v Speaker 5>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're surprised.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I look, I've been asked after last week, I was

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<v Speaker 5>asked a bunch of times beat by people on different

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<v Speaker 5>shows and stuff, and you know, I thought, they have

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<v Speaker 5>a stretch here where they have three standalone games in

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<v Speaker 5>a row. They were on an NFL network Sunday morning,

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<v Speaker 5>they play Monday Night Football this week against the Bills,

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<v Speaker 5>and then they play Sunday Night Football in Pittsburgh. So

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<v Speaker 5>that's three games where you have a national audience. I

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<v Speaker 5>said to people, if they lose those three games, then

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's in trouble because that then it's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>all the morning shows are talking about him, everyone's talking

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<v Speaker 5>about it. Then I think something could happen. But again,

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<v Speaker 5>the Jets haven't changed coaches mid season since nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 5>six when Lou Holtz quit, So this is not like

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<v Speaker 5>and they've had you know, Rich Kotite was the coach

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<v Speaker 5>they went one to fifteen. Adam Gase was the coach.

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<v Speaker 5>They were oh and thirteen to start that season. Todd

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<v Speaker 5>Bowles last season, there was clear there was calls for

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<v Speaker 5>them to fire him midseason. Everyone knew he was gone

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<v Speaker 5>and it hasn't happened. So this is this is surprising

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<v Speaker 5>because the Jets just this is not the way they've

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<v Speaker 5>operated in a long long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I wondered, if you fire Robert Sala, if you're still

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get Davante Adams, Like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if those two are connected or not.

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<v Speaker 5>Brian, Yeah, I don't see a connection there. Davante doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>know Sala. I mean, Davante's tie to the Jets is

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<v Speaker 5>obvious with the quarterback, So that's that's the tie. And

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think this changes anything in terms of DeVante Adams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think. I don't think that's related in I

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<v Speaker 5>think this is just purely about what what Woody Johnson's

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<v Speaker 5>seen the last couple of weeks on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't know if they would not fire him,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd given the benefit of the doubt if they were

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<v Speaker 2>going to bring in Davante Adams.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not sure if that I think this is I

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<v Speaker 5>think the DeVante Adams thing is more than Joe Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Douglas negotiating that right now, this is Woody Johnson deciding

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<v Speaker 5>to move on from Sala.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy, but we shouldn't be surprised. But we

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<v Speaker 2>are surprised. Why is that? It's the Jets.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, Dan, if you had me on nine

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<v Speaker 5>days ago, right, they beat the Patriots on Thursday Night Football,

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<v Speaker 5>They look good, right, Rogers was Rogers was Rogers. He

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<v Speaker 5>was controlling it. Everyone's like, oh, they're going to the

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<v Speaker 5>super Bowl and then here they go. They hit their stride.

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<v Speaker 5>They figured it out. I mean, Dad, we were asking

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<v Speaker 5>questions that week before the Broncos game of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>do you guys have to handle prosperity? Well here like,

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<v Speaker 5>do you guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Not have to get big hits?

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<v Speaker 5>We were literally asking these questions in the locker room

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks ago. And now he's fired, Like it's this league.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the NFL is insane? Which is how weak the

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<v Speaker 5>week it is? And you know, obviously there was a

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<v Speaker 5>case to be made that Sala should have been fired

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<v Speaker 5>last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, but he got.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of got a mulligan because Aaron Rodgers missed the

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<v Speaker 5>whole season and they brought him back. But you could

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<v Speaker 5>tell talking to Woody Johnson, we talked to him at

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<v Speaker 5>NFL honors before the Super Bowl. He was basically saying

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<v Speaker 5>like this is it, Like this is your last chance.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I think he entered on shaky ground and

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<v Speaker 5>then things just got shaker in the last two weeks here.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you think the players are going to react

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<v Speaker 2>to this.

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<v Speaker 5>I talked to a couple of morning. They're pretty surprised

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<v Speaker 5>right now. They didn't see this coming. You know, players

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<v Speaker 5>are pretty resilient and not much phases them. So I

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<v Speaker 5>think I don't think it's changed as much. Dan. That's

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<v Speaker 5>my issue with this is the offense has been the problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>solves the defensive coach. The defense gave up ten points

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<v Speaker 5>to the Broncos. They gave up sixteen points to the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 5>One touchdown was a pick six, right, So the defense

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<v Speaker 5>hasn't been the problem. The offense has been the problem.

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<v Speaker 5>What does this change offensively? You've now made the defensive

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<v Speaker 5>coordinator who basically designed the defense along with Salah the

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<v Speaker 5>head coach. Maybe a change in voice helps. But to me, Dan,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a ten and seven team. You know, That's

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<v Speaker 5>what I thought coming in the season. I still think

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<v Speaker 5>they can go ten and seven, and now it's but

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<v Speaker 5>now you know, if they win a few games in

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<v Speaker 5>a row, it's gonna be oh well, oh Brick did

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<v Speaker 5>it where? I just I just don't think this changed

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<v Speaker 5>as much.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think whatdy Johnson gave Aaron Rodgers a heads

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<v Speaker 2>up before this happened.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's the that's the question right now that I have.

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<v Speaker 5>I would think he probably would have, but I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know that for sure right now, But I think if

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<v Speaker 5>you didn't run it by them, that that's an interesting decision.

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<v Speaker 2>You always have drama in your job. Is that a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing? That you always have drama?

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<v Speaker 5>It gives me job security. Dan, I'll say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>this beats never boring. When the New York Post makes

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<v Speaker 5>the list of jobs and maybe we can get maybe

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<v Speaker 5>we can live without this one, Jets Beat is not

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<v Speaker 5>on that list. So uh yeah, but it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I just texted my wife. I said, the plans have

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<v Speaker 5>changed for the week different.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Brian Costello, Jets Beat reporter for the New York Post. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got drama. You don't have high highs, like like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're covering some of these teams that get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to go to the Super Bowl or an NFC

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<v Speaker 2>title game or AFC title game. With the Jets, there's

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be a storyline. The question is is

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<v Speaker 2>it going to be a positive storyline. I remember being

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<v Speaker 2>around the Jets when Mark Gastineau was there, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were a good team. You know, Ken O'Brien, But the

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<v Speaker 2>Giants were a better team at the time. But they

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<v Speaker 2>had h Marty Lines and Joe Klecko. They had a

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<v Speaker 2>really good defensive line. Freeman McNeil, al Toon was really good,

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<v Speaker 2>Wesley Walker, they were I mean, they they were close

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<v Speaker 2>to being a really good team, and so there wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really drama back then. I think Joe Walton was the

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<v Speaker 2>head coach. But I think that's the first time I

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<v Speaker 2>was around Richard Todd. So I was never around when Namath.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't covering them. I wasn't old enough to be

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<v Speaker 2>covering them back then. It started in the early eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>But I remember Gastoneau was always a storyline because he

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<v Speaker 2>was he was dating Brigitte Nielsen. Oh really, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had I think he had a Rolls Royce

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a big deal. He wasn't well liked

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<v Speaker 2>by his teammates. I mean, I thought Joe Kleco was

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<v Speaker 2>the heart and soul of that team. He was one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite players. But you know, you're out there

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<v Speaker 2>covering these teams, and you kind of juxtapose that with

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<v Speaker 2>the Giants, with Bill Parcells. Belichick was there, you got

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<v Speaker 2>LT you got you know, Phil Simms, Joe Morris. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets were holding their own, you know, they just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't they couldn't get over that hump. The Giants, of

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<v Speaker 2>course won the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Pung, It's such an awkward week to do it

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<v Speaker 4>because now you have a standalone Monday night football game

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<v Speaker 4>versus Buffalo for the media just chop it up preview

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<v Speaker 4>the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, But you don't want him to win his way

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<v Speaker 2>out of this. If you're planning on firing him, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that you're going to have these standalone games. They

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<v Speaker 2>can lose all three of these and then you can go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now if he wins two or three, are like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we can fire him after will win

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<v Speaker 2>against Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's almost like that's why you fired him this

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<v Speaker 3>week is because you have a standalone game coming up,

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<v Speaker 3>and as ownership, you could be like Sea fans, we're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I mean, it's all pr right. It starts from

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<v Speaker 2>the top, I mean it does. Now does Rogers Tuesdays?

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<v Speaker 2>Does he talk or is that with McAfee or is

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<v Speaker 2>that both?

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<v Speaker 4>Usually the quarterback speaks either Tuesday or Wednesday to the

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<v Speaker 4>gathered media, and he also has his obligation with McAfee.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Rodgers has to answer some of these questions. Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>why did you have your coach fired? Who did the

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<v Speaker 2>code red? Aaron? The defense has been great, the offense

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<v Speaker 2>has been terrible, which is true. Robert Sawah doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with the offense.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh man, what a mess?

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<v Speaker 2>What a miss? Chris in Pennsylvania? Hi, Chris, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey you good morning? So Rogers, you know he's getting

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of blame here, But what happened to the

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<v Speaker 7>running game? Let's talk about brief Hall and Brayln Allen Man,

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<v Speaker 7>they just like both disappeared the last two games.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think this is more systemic with that that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right. Should they have a better running game? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>They should have a better offense. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a better passing game, you can have a better

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<v Speaker 2>running game and vice versa. They just they haven't. It

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't synced up yet. There's plenty of blame to go around,

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<v Speaker 2>there always is with the Jets. Dave and San Antonio. Hi, Dave,

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<v Speaker 2>what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, good morning guys. I hate to take us off

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<v Speaker 8>topics here for a second, but I'm dropping my kid off.

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<v Speaker 8>I get home a little bit earlier than usual. I

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<v Speaker 8>put on Dan Patrick on peacock. I'm watching Marvin shoot

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<v Speaker 8>baskets and I'm looking at Marvin shoot baskets and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 8>what is going on here?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 8>Marvin like brothers don't shoot like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 8>I know you're a shooter.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 8>You haven't been out there with Marvin. Help him on

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<v Speaker 8>the court.

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<v Speaker 9>You got to help my brother out.

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<v Speaker 2>I he never asked for help. I always wait if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody asks for help, then I'll help them. And Marvin

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't asked for help with shooting. Do you need help?

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<v Speaker 1>Do I?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, okay, so then I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to help you. But if you said to me, I

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<v Speaker 2>setan I didn't notice something with Seaton where he was shooting,

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<v Speaker 2>and he would move he would move it off his

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<v Speaker 2>head to his side, and I said, no, just keep

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<v Speaker 2>it on the side. Don't move it from the head

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<v Speaker 2>to the side because it's taking longer to get your

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<v Speaker 2>shot off. That was all. It's just a nice Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed this, but I don't want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>a tutorial on shooting. You know what, during a break

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<v Speaker 2>help me. I'll need more time than that the break

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<v Speaker 2>after that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to start a service, you people send

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<v Speaker 3>in videos and then you break down their form, it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>charge like a monthly fee for it or something, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to do this Happy Gilmore thing, So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have time right now. I found out I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>two scenes with Happy Gilmore, and I think I'm shooting

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<v Speaker 2>my scenes here, I think, but I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>just heard from Samler this morning and he said, Danny,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna need a wardrobe change for two scenes. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, So I'll find out exactly what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>But look if I can help. I mean, I took

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<v Speaker 2>time out to help Ray Allen when he came in a.

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<v Speaker 4>Little late, though he'd already played a couple thousand games.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's ever too late. I'm still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to perfect my shot, and we'll always try to perfect

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<v Speaker 2>my shot. I only want to hit the rim. I

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<v Speaker 2>want the net, and then I don't even want the

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<v Speaker 2>net to move. Marvin, I don't know if I can

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<v Speaker 2>help you, if you don't want to be that great

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<v Speaker 2>like you coulda want it, and if not, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>wasting my time anymore. You know what I want it? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't believe that at all. Oh, it's all.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move logs.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what it's gonna do about helping my

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<v Speaker 6>eye shot, but we're gonna move logs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. Oh, I just saw a video.

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<v Speaker 4>Reggie Miller's fifty nine years old. He posted a video

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<v Speaker 4>him just jacking from deep.

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<v Speaker 2>No problem, no, no problem, nope. And you know those

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<v Speaker 2>who haven't have it and they never lose it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's it's magic in your hand. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>small fraternity of us that you know, it just never leaves.

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<v Speaker 4>Show us a handshaked in.

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<v Speaker 2>No can't. You almost tricked me into showing you the

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<v Speaker 2>secret handshake, because if I see Steph Curry, I just

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<v Speaker 2>give him the nod and then he knows it's time

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<v Speaker 2>for the secret handshake. And I hope Klay Thompson gets

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<v Speaker 2>back in the fraternity, you know, I hope. So did

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<v Speaker 2>you see where Luca bet one of his teammates. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was one hundred thousand dollars this was during

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<v Speaker 2>this is like a couple of days ago. Then he

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<v Speaker 2>would make a full court shot. They had like some

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<v Speaker 2>fan past or something, and Luca made it for one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars. Did you see that? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you didn't see the video, but it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It is wild. Yeah, but I think I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the bet was. So Luca is going to make

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand, but uh, I think one of his

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<v Speaker 2>younger teammates cost him one hundred large Derek Lively, Yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you could see his reaction when Luca makes a

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<v Speaker 2>full court shot. It's like, damn yeah, Pauline.

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<v Speaker 4>Luca's underneath the opposing basket about three feet out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't even step up. It's like a hook shot

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<v Speaker 4>you would do in horse in your backyard, but from

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<v Speaker 4>eighty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Feet probably further than Yeah. Yeah, for one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let me take a break. Bob Costas he

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<v Speaker 2>will join us coming up next. More of your phone

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<v Speaker 2>calls as well. We're back after this and the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first time since the Division series were

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<v Speaker 2>added in nineteen ninety five that all four series are

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<v Speaker 2>tied at a game apiece after two games. You got

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<v Speaker 2>baseball coming up later on today you got the Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>and the Mets, and then you got Dodgers at the

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<v Speaker 2>Padres coming up at nine Eastern. Bob Costas on the

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<v Speaker 2>call for the Yankees game with the Kansas City Royals,

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<v Speaker 2>MLB Network host and Hall of Fame sportscaster. When the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs started, Bob, a couple of baseball writers said, all

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<v Speaker 2>twelve teams could win the World Series the same way

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<v Speaker 2>when that happened, when that started, Well.

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<v Speaker 6>All twelve teams have a shot to win a given series.

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<v Speaker 6>And as I said to you before, if when the

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<v Speaker 6>playoffs start under this format, you could take any team

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<v Speaker 6>you want from either league and I take the field,

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<v Speaker 6>I'd like my chances because so many good teams one

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<v Speaker 6>hundred win teams have been knocked out. Especially treacherous is

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<v Speaker 6>the division series round with the odd number of off days,

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<v Speaker 6>so a lesser team can get by, maybe with only

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<v Speaker 6>two good starters. Detroit may get by with only one

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<v Speaker 6>good starter, but he's the best pitcher in baseball, best

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<v Speaker 6>starter in baseball this year. Once you get to the LCS,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a more legitimate test. But think about last year.

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<v Speaker 6>The Diamondbacks knock off the Dodgers, a team that finished

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<v Speaker 6>sixteen games ahead of them in the same division. They

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<v Speaker 6>get all the way through to the World Series. The

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<v Speaker 6>team they meet, the Texas Rangers, is in effect a

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<v Speaker 6>wildcard team. They tied the Astros for first place, but

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<v Speaker 6>there was a tie breaker, so they had to play

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<v Speaker 6>in the wildcard round. So both those teams that in

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<v Speaker 6>the Wildcard round, they both made it to the World Series.

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<v Speaker 6>Were they the best teams in their respective leagues over

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<v Speaker 6>the course of the season. No, But the days of

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<v Speaker 6>an old Pennant race win it, or even the old

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<v Speaker 6>LCS win the division, have to finish first, go to

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<v Speaker 6>the LCS. That's the one thing that you get to

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<v Speaker 6>the World Series. Those days are behind us. There's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of pluses to this. I mean, there's been a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of great games, and I've had a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people say, you know, it just almost feels like March

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<v Speaker 6>Madness in a sense. I'm watching four games at once,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're going around with the highlights that everybody's got

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<v Speaker 6>a shot and there are interesting things happening, and that's

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<v Speaker 6>what baseball wanted. And even if you're not among the

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<v Speaker 6>twelve teams, there were enough teams close enough into the

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<v Speaker 6>last week or so to keep their fan bases engaged.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the trade off, or you're going to always get

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<v Speaker 6>the purest matchup between the two best teams in the league. No,

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<v Speaker 6>in fact, I would think less often than not would

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<v Speaker 6>that would happen. But there are upsides to the setup too.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the best of three. I just it created tension,

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<v Speaker 2>immediacy in each game mattered. And maybe it's not fair,

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<v Speaker 2>but I always feel like if you got one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty two games to alter your course there and

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<v Speaker 2>if it comes down to this, and you know, some

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<v Speaker 2>of these teams had all three home games if they

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<v Speaker 2>got to that, so I was fine with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want all the playoffs series like that. Where do

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<v Speaker 2>you stand on that?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, the difference between baseball and other sports has to

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<v Speaker 6>be taken into account. Baseball plays one hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 6>two twice as many as the NHL and the NBA

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<v Speaker 6>and roughly ten times as many, did I say, the

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<v Speaker 6>NHL and NBA, Yes, I did, and roughly ten times

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't get much sleep last night, Dan, I got

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<v Speaker 6>going to get on a plane to Kansas City. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>a little groggy, but ten times as much as the NFL.

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<v Speaker 6>And so there's a legitimate feeling that you want to

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<v Speaker 6>honor what happens over the course of that long season.

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<v Speaker 6>Playoff qualifying seems different in baseball. That doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 6>this format is bad, but almost any format, if you

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<v Speaker 6>want that many teams to be in it is going

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<v Speaker 6>to be imperfect to one extent or another. But this

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<v Speaker 6>one does yield some excitement in the early rounds, no

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<v Speaker 6>question about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love that Detroit is in. I watched almost

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<v Speaker 2>all of that game yesterday. Scooble is I mean dominating. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I just it's a young team. Aj

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<v Speaker 2>Hinch gets a chance to, you know, come back Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>Although they won in what twenty fifteen, there's still I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. Then you get the Padres and the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers that it feels like Yankees in Red Sox. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So there there's a lot of matchups, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of fun things. And then you throw in the

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<v Speaker 2>Phillies in the Mets, and it doesn't matter if it's exhibition,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, spring training, or you know, or a playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>So that that I think the match. I think baseball's

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<v Speaker 2>had a really good year this year.

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<v Speaker 6>I think so too, with historic performances by Otani and Judge.

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<v Speaker 6>Judge continues to struggle in the postseason, and that's another

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<v Speaker 6>subplot in all of this, and Bobby Witch Junior emerging

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<v Speaker 6>as one of the best all round players in recent seasons.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a lot to like in this baseball season. And

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<v Speaker 6>to your point earlier, the Padres and the Dodgers feels

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<v Speaker 6>like a real rivalry. It felt like that before the

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<v Speaker 6>game on Sunday night. Then you've got people throwing stuff

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<v Speaker 6>which you can't applaud at profar and then apparently Manny

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<v Speaker 6>Machado tossed a baseball in the direction of Dave Roberts,

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<v Speaker 6>and Roberts is a pretty even keel guy, but he

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<v Speaker 6>said it had some mustard on it, and I found

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<v Speaker 6>it to be disrespectful. So the atmosphere is for Games

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<v Speaker 6>three and four in San Diego should be pretty raucous

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<v Speaker 6>as well, as long as everybody stays in their seats

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<v Speaker 6>and yells and screams as much as they want, but

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't do anything more than that. But you know, they

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<v Speaker 6>play in the same division, just like the Tigers and

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<v Speaker 6>the Guardians do in the same division. The Mets and

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<v Speaker 6>the Phillies in the same division. So there's that familiarity

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<v Speaker 6>with all the games played during the regular season. And

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<v Speaker 6>now they meet again in October, and because of the

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<v Speaker 6>prox you're going to have even more visiting fans if

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<v Speaker 6>they can score a ticket somehow, even more visiting fans

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<v Speaker 6>in the other team's ballpark. In fact, I said to

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<v Speaker 6>Ron Darling during Game one, this is the only series

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<v Speaker 6>where a plane ride is required between New York and

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<v Speaker 6>Kansas City. I think they should go old school and

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<v Speaker 6>take a train. And everybody wears suspenders and smokes cigars

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<v Speaker 6>and reads the Sporting News and it's in black and white,

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<v Speaker 6>and it looks like a scene out of the natural.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be willing to take a train today to

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, Bob.

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<v Speaker 6>Absolutely not, even the club car on a cello. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>not going that far.

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<v Speaker 2>We've tried to put Otani's season in perspective, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking at a hitter and a hitter in a

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<v Speaker 2>regular season. The only other you know that moment where

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<v Speaker 2>he has the three homers, like, is that the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>game ever for a hitter? And I still brought it

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's two games. Ted Williams on that final

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<v Speaker 2>when he could have sat out and he played both

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<v Speaker 2>ends of the double header and batted four oh six,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the only thing that I thought might be a

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<v Speaker 2>comparison to that.

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<v Speaker 6>Your thoughts, well, I think of the Sandberg Game forty

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<v Speaker 6>years ago on the NBC Game of the Week when

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<v Speaker 6>Ryan Samberg went five for six and hit two homers,

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 6>last ditch homers off Bruce Suitor. They used relief pitchers

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 6>differently then, I think White he Hearszog had Suitor in

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<v Speaker 6>there for at least three innings, so Samberg homers to

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<v Speaker 6>tie it on the ninth. He homers a ken in

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<v Speaker 6>the tenth with two out to tie it again and

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 6>was immediately dubbed the Sandberg Game. And that's what people

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:41.520
<v Speaker 6>around Chicago still referred to it as. And it was

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 6>on a national broadcast when the Game of the Week

0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 6>was something different than it is now, when you have

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:48.919
<v Speaker 6>so many ways to access baseball fred Lynn had a

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<v Speaker 6>game during his Rookie of the Year MVP year in

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<v Speaker 6>seventy five for the Red Sox where he hit three

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 6>home runs and had ten RBIs at Tiger Stadium. But

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<v Speaker 6>what Otani did here and then, of course, if you

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<v Speaker 6>think of something happening in the World Series, you think

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 6>of Reggie Jackson hitting three home runs in a deciding

0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 6>World Series game, it's more meaningful. I think of some

0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 6>of the games that George Brett had. He had a

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 6>three homer game every homer off Catfish Hunter in the

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 6>LCS in either seventy seven or seventy eight, and he

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<v Speaker 6>had another game in eighty five where he had two homers,

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<v Speaker 6>a double and a single and the double hit the

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<v Speaker 6>top of the wall against Toronto. Brett is one of

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<v Speaker 6>the all time great postseason performers. The thing about this, though,

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.359
<v Speaker 6>is not only did he have five hits and three

0:24:33.400 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 6>home runs and he almost had the cycle, he was

0:24:36.160 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 6>thrown out a third trying to stretch a double. He

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<v Speaker 6>had two doubles, so he's thrown out a third, could

0:24:40.440 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 6>have had the cycle. And he passed both milestones. He

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<v Speaker 6>passed the fifty and the fifty in the same game,

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<v Speaker 6>so I think that this has elements that surrounded. You

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<v Speaker 6>could look at others and say, I can make a

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<v Speaker 6>case for this or that, but for now Otani will do.

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<v Speaker 2>Could he be underrated?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know how he could be underrated. He's been

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<v Speaker 6>certainly celebrated. People will interpret what I'm about to say wrongly,

0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 6>but it would be a great thing for baseball in

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 6>the big picture. If Otani, who never played in a

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<v Speaker 6>playoff game with the Angels, if Otani got to the

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<v Speaker 6>World Series, and if Judge snapped out of it and

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<v Speaker 6>hit a few homers on the way to the World Series,

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 6>and you got Yankees Dodgers. Not just because of the markets,

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<v Speaker 6>but because these are the two players who's the casual

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 6>fan is immediately recognizable. You can grasp what they've done,

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 6>you can grasp that they're both historic players. Now, I

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.119
<v Speaker 6>know that you will have comments saying, oh, it's a

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:40.239
<v Speaker 6>big market bias. Hey, if the Tigers make it, if

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 6>Kansas City plays the Tigers or the Guardians and the LCS,

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.959
<v Speaker 6>that's good for baseball in its own way. But if

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<v Speaker 6>you're just looking for a big boost in World Series ratings,

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<v Speaker 6>you got the combination of the markets and the two

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 6>marquee players that would be the best in that respect

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<v Speaker 6>for baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when I say underrated, because we didn't know that

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 2>he was capable of stealing sixty bases and even the

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<v Speaker 2>pitching part of it. That'll come back next year and

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.280
<v Speaker 2>he probably won't come close to these numbers. He won't

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 2>be running the bases this way, but it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do that. I'm gonna show you something else

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 2>that I can do. Yeah, this year.

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<v Speaker 6>Minus the pitching, kind of liberated him to run the bases,

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<v Speaker 6>and maybe it accounts for a portion of what he's

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<v Speaker 6>done at the plate because he doesn't have as much

0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.199
<v Speaker 6>stress on his body and on his attentions. Maybe, But

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 6>as everyone has said, and it's true, he's a unicorn.

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:35.200
<v Speaker 6>Is he the greatest player? You can make a case

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 6>for many others, But is he the most talented player

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 6>certainly that I've ever seen. Will He is not to

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 6>say that he's a greater all round player than Willie Mays.

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean, he's never played the field to any significant extent.

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:54.399
<v Speaker 6>He's a dh But we've never seen someone who simultaneously

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 6>does the two things, or the multiple things if you

0:26:57.160 --> 0:27:00.240
<v Speaker 6>count the base dealing. That Otani does, because, as we

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.159
<v Speaker 6>said before, we know that Ruth would have been a

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 6>Hall of Famer as a pitcher had he never switched

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 6>to the outfield. But he didn't really do the two

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.240
<v Speaker 6>simultaneously to any great extent, though Tony has.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when we were at the Mets Astros

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<v Speaker 2>playoff game and Pete Rose said to us we were

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 2>at the top of the steps, and he said, who

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>do you like today? Do you remember that?

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:23.640
<v Speaker 6>I do?

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I do?

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 6>And you know I was telling Aaron Boone or just

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 6>having a conversation before the game. And you know, Aaron

0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 6>knew Pete from the time he was a little kid

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 6>because his dad, Bob Boone, was a Phillies teammate of

0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:38.560
<v Speaker 6>Pete Rose. And you want to talk about six degrees

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.879
<v Speaker 6>of Kevin Bacon. If you talk to Aaron Boone, you

0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 6>can connect him to just about everybody, including people from

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 6>before the midpoint of the twentieth century, because his grandfather

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 6>broke it in nineteen forty eight. So we're talking about

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 6>Pete Rose, and it occurred to me. I hadn't thought

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:54.240
<v Speaker 6>about this in a very long time. It's around nineteen

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.159
<v Speaker 6>eighty one, and I'm just starting out with NBC and

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 6>I'm standing in front of the Phillies dugout and Pete

0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.879
<v Speaker 6>Row playing catch, just warming up before the game, and

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 6>he glances over it and he goes, I see you. You

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 6>do those Big ten basketball games. And I'm thinking, Wow,

0:28:09.800 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 6>Pete Rose knows who I am. But then a few

0:28:12.480 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 6>years later it dawned on me what that was really

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 6>all about.

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 2>He was betting on those Big ten games.

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, what's the line on in State Northwestern on a

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 6>Tuesday night in February?

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 2>Did we put to bet? I don't know what we

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<v Speaker 2>accomplished with discussing Pete in his legacy and moving forward.

0:28:32.280 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It just felt like it was the

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 2>same story with Pete and it never changed.

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 6>You know, I'm repeating myself here. Nobody's nominating Pete Rose

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 6>for Citizen of the Year. But not only was he

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 6>a truly great player just on the numbers, he's a

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 6>Hall of Fame caliber player, but he was so iconic

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 6>in the way he played the game in a bigger

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.960
<v Speaker 6>than life personality and part of one of the great teams,

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 6>the Big Red Machine. And it's not just in the

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 6>aftermath of his death. I've been saying this for more

0:29:01.120 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 6>than thirty years. Baseball should have made a distinction.

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that technically it's the board of directors of

0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 6>the Hall of Fame, but if any of the commissioners

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 6>had said, hey, come on, it's okay with us, that

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 6>would have influenced the board of directors. They could have

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 6>made a simple distinction. He is rightly banned from any

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 6>official part in baseball because he broke the cardinal rule,

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.200
<v Speaker 6>but he's on the Hall of Fame ballot. People who

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 6>poisoned the record books by taking steroids probably damaged the

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 6>game more than Pete Row has ever damaged the game.

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 6>They're on the ballot. Whether they make it in or not,

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 6>they're on the ballot. And if he winds up getting

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 6>in posthumously, now it's almost like they're twisting the knife,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 6>whether that's their intention or not. And I know that

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 6>there were unsavory things connected to Pete, but somebody got

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 6>those forty two and fifty six base hits, and I've

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 6>always said you could put it at the bottom of

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 6>the plaque, along with all the achievements. Bann from base

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 6>in nineteen eighty nine for gambling, and in the immediate aftermath,

0:30:04.080 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 6>fay Vincent who succeeded Bartiamadi and was one of Bart's

0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 6>closest friends. If he had lifted that ban in terms

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 6>of the Hall of Fame, that would have seemed too lenient.

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 6>But as time went by, you get to the turn

0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 6>of the century, I think everybody would have grasped it

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 6>eligible because of what he did. Historically eligible for the

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 6>Hall no longer officially connected to baseball. That's the punishment.

0:30:29.160 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 6>And people who say, well, you know, baseball, like every

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:36.479
<v Speaker 6>other sport, has now embraced gambling, so it's hypocritical. I

0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 6>get that. Atmospherically, that's a bad look, but it's still

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 6>the rule for any player. If you bet on a

0:30:43.880 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 6>game in which you're not involved in baseball, you can

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 6>bet on football or basketball. But if you bet on

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 6>a game that you're not involved in, automatic at least

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 6>one game suspension, then you can one year suspension, then

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 6>you can apply for reinstatement. But if you bet on

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 6>a game in which you are involved, including if you

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 6>bet on your own team, the rule is still exactly

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 6>the same as it's been for decades and decades, lifetime banishment.

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 2>But if he was in the Hall of Fame, do

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>you think if they found out that he gambled. Later,

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>would they have taken him out of the Hall of Fame,

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 2>let's say just baseball wise, his career Hall of Famer.

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Then he becomes a manager, let's say six years after

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he's in the Hall of Fame, and then he's betting

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 2>on baseball. They find that out. Would they have taken

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 2>him out of the Hall of Fame?

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 6>But at that point he couldn't have managed in baseball

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 6>By what I just suggested, he's banned from baseball.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, let's say no, they don't catch him.

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh I think no.

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 2>So he's in the Hall of Fame for his playing career.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 2>He waits six years, the Reds bring him in to

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 2>be their manager. Then all of a sudden he bets

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 2>on baseball. Would they have taken him out of the

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.920
<v Speaker 6>That's a tricky one. I guess not. But they might

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:55.479
<v Speaker 6>have altered the plaque, okay, to indicate you know what

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 6>the circumstances are for those who haven't been to the

0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:01.560
<v Speaker 6>Hall of Fame. They think of some people think of

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 6>that as just the plaque gallery, that's part of it,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 6>but it's a much larger museum. And Pete Rose and

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 6>Joe Jackson and all the supposed steroid guys. They're all

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:15.200
<v Speaker 6>represented in terms of their place in baseball history throughout

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 6>the museum. But it's the plaque gallery where Pete Rose

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 6>is missing. I mentioned this on the air right after

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 6>he died someplace or other. I went to the Hall

0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 6>of Fame with Pete for a piece for the Today

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 6>Show sometime in the nineties, and he had not set

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 6>foot in the Hall of Fame after since Barchiamatti had

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 6>banned him. And at one point he walked over to

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 6>ty Cobb's plaque. And Pete was not a reflective man

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.239
<v Speaker 6>at all, but in that moment you could tell he

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 6>was reflecting. And I actually backed the way to give

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 6>him some space, and you could tell that he's looking

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:55.240
<v Speaker 6>at this plaque and saying, Hey, I'm connected historically to

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 6>this guy, this guy I never met. I'm connected to

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 6>Ty Cobb. Why am I not here represented in this gallery? Well,

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 6>the answer is mostly by your own doing. But justice

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:08.560
<v Speaker 6>can be tempered with mercy. I don't think if Pete

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 6>Rose had gotten into the Hall of Fame, let's say,

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 6>in two thousand and five, twenty ten, and he had

0:33:14.440 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 6>the plaque in the fashion that I suggested, No little

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 6>kid is going to walk through the Hall of Fame

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 6>with his dad look at the plaque and say, gee, Dad,

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 6>I guess it's okay. Then if I get to the

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 6>major leagues and I bet on baseball, I mean, the

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 6>cautionary tale is there. It was in the first paragraph

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 6>of his obituary. And we knew that for decades that

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 6>it would be in the first paragraph of his obituary.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 6>He paid a huge price, even if he was even

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 6>it was by his own doing, he paid a huge price.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I did ask Johnny Bench after Pete died. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw that segment. Yeah. I said, did you have

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<v Speaker 2>any idea if he was betting on baseball as a player,

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, well, I was told by the FBI,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to stay away. I think the reason why

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<v Speaker 2>Pete is never going to be on the ballot it

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<v Speaker 2>is those commissioners know that Pete Bett is a player. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that that might be the point of

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<v Speaker 2>no return.

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<v Speaker 6>You know that may be true. I asked Rob Manford

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<v Speaker 6>in an interview a few years ago. Is there something

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<v Speaker 6>that the general public and those of us in the

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<v Speaker 6>media pay attention to, what would know about is there

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<v Speaker 6>something that we don't know about that influences this decision,

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<v Speaker 6>something more damning than what we know, or additionally damning

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<v Speaker 6>to what we know. And Manford's answer was no.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't believe it. Don't believe it. I had

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<v Speaker 2>too many conversations with Bud Selig where I just got it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a sense that there was something there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Pete all of a sudden goes, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to start gambling on baseball as a

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<v Speaker 2>manager and not as a player.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, what they're saying is logical. Yeah, you don't know

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<v Speaker 6>the answer for sure, but it's certainly a logical question.

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<v Speaker 2>To talk to you safe travels to Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, But that's Bob Costas TNT, the exclusive home

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<v Speaker 2>of the Alds Alcs. Bob on the call with Ron Darling,

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<v Speaker 2>and that'll be coming up tomorrow, Game three in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, sometimes I get going with Bob and I

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<v Speaker 2>forget that I'm doing a show. You just talk. It's

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm lucky to have that relationship, but it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's a conversation. The fact that he remembers that's nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty six, We're at the top of the dugout steps

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<v Speaker 2>at Shay Stadium and Pete is there, and he walks

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<v Speaker 2>up to us and says, who do you like today?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a gambling language right there. That's what gamblers say,

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<v Speaker 2>who do you like today? All right, let me take

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<v Speaker 2>a break. We're back after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, So the Jets have fired Robert Salah. The

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<v Speaker 2>Jets owner Woody Johnson sent out a statement blah blah blah, blah,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. I don't know how it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>hallmark greeting card. I thanked him for his hard work

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<v Speaker 2>these past three and a half years and wished him

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<v Speaker 2>and his family well moving forward. This was not an

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<v Speaker 2>easy decision. Wouldn't it be interesting if you said this

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<v Speaker 2>was an easy decision? But he says, we are not

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<v Speaker 2>where we should be given our expectations, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>now is the best time for us to move on. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>statement from Woody Johnson.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'd prefer one time to see an owner

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<v Speaker 4>give an actual, real statement. Instead of parting of ways,

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.439
<v Speaker 4>we agreed to separate. It's we fired our head coach

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<v Speaker 4>because we're losing all the time. We wish him the

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<v Speaker 4>best going forward. It is probably not gonna work out

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<v Speaker 4>for that team either.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Eddie and del Mar's back? Hi, Eddie, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 10>Good morning, Danny. I really have a problem with Dave

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<v Speaker 10>Roberts right now. He says he's seen video of Manny

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<v Speaker 10>Machado throwing a ball at him with intense and I

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<v Speaker 10>haven't seen the video. I haven't seen it on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, ESPN would probably be showing quite a bit

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<v Speaker 10>of that. I think that's lying to support a narrative

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<v Speaker 10>or lie to influence the narrative. And Gus in Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 10>I love you. You're a great caller. You said Profar

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<v Speaker 10>throw a ball into the stand. Now, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 10>video of bat either. However, I have seen a video

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<v Speaker 10>of Profar taking a ball out of the stand, and

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<v Speaker 10>I have seen I have seen video Profar handing a

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<v Speaker 10>ball to a fan in the stands and then that

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<v Speaker 10>fan throwing the ball onto the field, which started the riot.

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<v Speaker 10>And I have friends who say, you know, the Padres

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<v Speaker 10>are a better story, and I said, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 10>the Dodgers are a better story. They have the most

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<v Speaker 10>exciting player in all of baseball. I'm not jaded just

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<v Speaker 10>because I'm a Padre fan. The whole nation Fox, TBS,

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<v Speaker 10>they want the Dodgers to move on. So let's see

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<v Speaker 10>how the umpire behind Hope plate college balls and strikes tonight.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm very interested to see how that goes well.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a home game for the Padres. So thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for the phone call, Eddie. Have fun tonight, Luke

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlotte. Hi, Luke, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 9>Hey guys, I just wanted to give a little delayed

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<v Speaker 9>best and worst. First, I wanted to give some crops

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<v Speaker 9>to Fritzy. I can see what he's doing with the

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 9>impression that the word structure is there. The voice is not,

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<v Speaker 9>but at least the words and how he says them

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<v Speaker 9>are good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>Worst of the weekend was First of the weekend was

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<v Speaker 9>the Steelers choking happened last time Cowboys were in Pittsburgh, too.

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<v Speaker 9>There's tons of best. I mean, it was the best

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<v Speaker 9>college football weekend that I can remember for a while.

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<v Speaker 9>And the Browns downfall is always something good to see.

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<v Speaker 9>Speaking of college football, I was wondering what your guys's

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<v Speaker 9>planned were for the Oregon Ohio State two and three

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<v Speaker 9>at Austin this weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just excited to see it. I'm not making any

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>predictions on it right now, but yeah, definitely the game

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 2>of the weekend. Eddie and del Mar said that he

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't seen the video of Manny Machado throwing the baseball

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:31.560
<v Speaker 2>towards the Dodger Dodgers dugout. It's here, it's there. I

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<v Speaker 2>know that. Dave Roberts said that it was disrespectful, disrespectful

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and unsettling. But he does throw he does throw baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>uh in the into the dugout. Yes, balling.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's throwing the ball towards like a ball boy

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<v Speaker 4>or something, not like an attack on the dugout, and

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<v Speaker 4>the ball kind of skips up and one of the

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<v Speaker 4>Dodgers players kind of leads out Doug like hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and Dave Roberts, who is not looking at all at

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<v Speaker 4>the play on the field, he was looking down at

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 4>his scorecard, backed his player and said, hey, what's this about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if there was intent there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I can see the video, but I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, oh, he was trying to hit Dave Roberts

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 2>their head hunting. I know they were upset with Flaherty.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see all this day and sports history. Don

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<v Speaker 2>Larson throws his perfect game as the Yankees beat the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers Game five of the World Series. Uh, Todd, What

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