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Speaker 1: The Action Network podcast Are you going to place a bet?

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Speaker 1: Or wat? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Everybody?

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Speaker 1: I am Dane Martinez and this is another edition of

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Speaker 1: the Expert's Guide to Betting, and today we are talking

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Speaker 1: about the great sport of lacrosse. And there is nobody

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Speaker 1: better for me to discuss lacrosse leans and angles and

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Speaker 1: how to get paid than our guy Hutton. Jackson, Hutton,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing so far today?

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Speaker 2: I'm dill Well. Happy to talk to some lacrosse actually

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Speaker 2: from a bank perspective.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And it's so exciting, right because there's so

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Speaker 1: many different forms of lacrosse, you know, men's and women's,

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Speaker 1: different leagues out there. But first ground us a little bit, Hutton.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what is it about lacrosse that you like betting?

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Speaker 1: And how long have you been doing it? What makes

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Speaker 1: you an expert in this space?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I've played lacrosse most of my life, enjoyed

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Speaker 2: watching it, enjoy watching the pro game specifically, which is

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Speaker 2: so it's starting to grow. But yeah, after like you know,

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Speaker 2: being a fan for a while, betting actually wasn't really

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Speaker 2: introduced until three years ago, and that was with the

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Speaker 2: Premiere Lacrosse League. They got a betting partnership with DraftKings.

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Speaker 2: They were the first to offer lines in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Since then, more sportsbooks have gotten into it. There's really

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Speaker 2: four or five main players right now, but it hasn't

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Speaker 2: really been around at least online wise, you know, for

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Speaker 2: that very long. So it's kind of a new emerging market.

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Speaker 2: But that kind of gives us advantages of betters as

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Speaker 2: well to you know, maybe hit some softer lines and

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Speaker 2: find some advantages. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know, you talk about a new market, right

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Speaker 1: or you say softer lines, And when we talk about

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Speaker 1: other sports for example, especially say the NFL, Right, everybody

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Speaker 1: and their mother is betting football on a fall weekend,

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Speaker 1: and that causes all the lines to get very very sharp.

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Speaker 1: It is very hard to find value with some of

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Speaker 1: the big sports, and I know a lot of sharp

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Speaker 1: people say it is sometimes the niche sports or the

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Speaker 1: smaller conferences where you as a better someone who really

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Speaker 1: understands the subject matter or the conference or the sport

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Speaker 1: can actually be almost on even footing with the book

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Speaker 1: because they don't have the bandwidth to you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of actually research and analyze everything. Would you say lacrosse

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Speaker 1: fits into that category?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, I mean a good example was at the

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Speaker 2: start of the season, you know, the preseason, a few

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Speaker 2: months out before the game started, you had all the

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Speaker 2: and one of the teams was getting plus two thousand odds,

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Speaker 2: which is, you know, kind of a long odds for

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Speaker 2: eighteen league, but they historically haven't had much success the

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Speaker 2: past three years, so the sportsbooks were kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: down on them, set them as the longest odds, and

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Speaker 2: you know, me and some of my you know friends,

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Speaker 2: we're like, well, the Chrome reloaded in the offseason. They're

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Speaker 2: so we hit that, you know, right early on, and

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Speaker 2: And with only eight teams, you know, every team has

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Speaker 2: to look for, both from you know, paying attention to

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there is hope for us if we are

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Speaker 1: a new, better into the lacrosse space. But I gotta

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Speaker 1: ask you, you know, every sport has some of his

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Speaker 1: own unique challenges, right Like when we're betting soccer, there's

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Speaker 1: a three way line. You know, in the NBA, everybody

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we mentioned the Premier Lacrosse League, which has

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Speaker 2: And then the NLL of the Indoor Lacrosse League, which

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Speaker 2: So essentially college men's lacrosse the pro version is the

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's really interesting, and you know, for me,

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Speaker 1: to me, it's kind of like if you're you're about

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Speaker 1: your settings right, you have to know exactly how points

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Actually, ironically the totals range around the same despite

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Speaker 2: but it's a bit of a longer field. Possessions are

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Speaker 2: definitely can't approach them the same because of those variations,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the range that the tolls tend to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and even with like a different sized net and

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Speaker 1: the rules. So let's get into it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And like when we get into the season, as we

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Speaker 1: your routine day by day to kind of understand the matchups,

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Speaker 1: understand who's hot, who's not, who's injured, and where your

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Speaker 1: leans might be. Take us into your process for betting

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like to, you know, just pay attention

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Speaker 2: Premiere Lacrosse League is that there's only four games each

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Speaker 2: to watch all the games. I usually when I'm watching

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Speaker 2: know we'll kind of talk about that a little bit later,

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Speaker 2: but just because there's a lot of runs of lacrosse,

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Speaker 2: But I tend to wait, you know, towards we get

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Speaker 1: Up on something you mentioned earlier in that answer. When

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Speaker 1: talking about what's interesting about lacrosse, you mentioned that all

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Speaker 1: the teams are in the same venue on a given weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean in most other sports there is the quote

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Speaker 1: unquote home field or home court advantage, and people know it, right,

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Speaker 1: it's around three points in the NFL. You could take

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Speaker 1: it in different sports based on the arena, but that's

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Speaker 1: almost a point. How how is it is there no

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Speaker 1: home field court advantage and how does that play into

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so unlike you know, the National Cross League, which

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Speaker 2: is played in arenas in different cities, the Indoor League,

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Speaker 2: the PLL is a touring based model, so they go

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Speaker 2: eliminate that home field advantage, and the crowd sizes don't

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Speaker 2: But that isn't a unique thing about it that you know,

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Speaker 2: there is no home field advantage. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: these teams are very even keel since there's so much

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Speaker 1: This is the Action Networks Experts Guide to Betting Lacrosse

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Speaker 1: Dane Martinez and Hutting Jackson here discussing how you can

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Speaker 1: Soon you mentioned a few things that really piqued my interest.

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Speaker 1: One that there's a lot of parody you say here

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Speaker 1: So one of the other things that have been growing

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Speaker 1: Are there teams that go on to run You mentioned

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Speaker 1: And then when you're betting lacrosse, what is like the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can follow me at Hutton Jackson on Twitter

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Speaker 2: as well as Hutton Jackson on the Action Network app.

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Speaker 2: I have all my plays in there. I was doing

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Speaker 1: No absolutely, And you mentioned the Action App, and this

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Speaker 1: allergic to money. For my guy, Hutting Jackson, I am

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Speaker 1: merely the spitting statistician Dane Martinez. We'll see you next

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Speaker 1: time as we continue the Experts Guide series.

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Speaker 2: Have a great one.