1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: you a Charlotte? 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: Hello? Everyone, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Today we are discussing the finale of season one, which 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: I can't even believe that we're finally here to the 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: finale of season one. It's crazy, it's been it's been 7 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: such a rider already. So this is episode one twelve. 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: It is called okamal Ye, faithful, and I have the 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: incredible Camilla Ludington is here with us. 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 2: Very excited. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: I've already met Camilla here in this very room. She 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: also has an iHeart podcast called call It What It Is, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: which I've listened and I've been loving. Okay, I'm learning 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: so much with her friend Jessica Kapstaw, who also is here, 15 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 1: who was lovely, and they're both on Gray's Anatomy or work. 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: Yes, she's not on nine one one Nashville. She just 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 3: announced yesterday she's the female leader of that show. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing, good for her. 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 1: They're so nice you guys, and have really fun podcast. 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: And also they're on Grades Anatomy and that's incredible. And 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: you have been a long time, which also kills me 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: because you're like such a baby. 23 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love that. 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: You say that, but no, really, yes, come on, I 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: mean to look at your resume and all the things 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: you've done, and I would never think that you would 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: look like such a baby. 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: But you've had quite the career. But you started at 29 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 2: five or something crazy I did. I started theater at five. 30 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 3: I knew I wanted to be an actress really young, 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: and nobody, also my family had ever done it before. 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 3: My mom thought I would become like a stage brat, 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: is how she put it back then. Oh no, yeah, 34 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 3: she was like absolutely not, you know. And so I 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: just started in theater. 36 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: And then I went to school and I have a 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: cute story actually for you tell me, Okay. 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: So I did theater in England, and then I decided 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: that I didn't know how to what the medium for 40 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: acting in film was, like, it's so different, right to 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: stay so different? So I went to the New York 42 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Film Academy Wow, and I studied there when I was 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: nineteen ten. And one day i'd never seen a TV 44 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: show film before. I was out on the street in 45 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: New York and Sex and the City was filming on 46 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: the street and I just stood there stalking you guys. 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: Amazing. 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: You were doing a walk and talk with Jessica, with 49 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: Sir Jessica, and I just was like, one day. 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: So it's like a very weird moment. 51 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: This would have been two thousand and three, how great, 52 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: So kind of like that would have been season five. 53 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Was she pregnant? Did she look pregnant? She did not 54 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: look pregnant? Okay, interesting and it was just me and 55 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: her or all of us. 56 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: No, it was you you guys, well have fun, I know, 57 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: how amazing. 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, did we seem like we were having fun or 59 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: we seem so no, not stressed at all. 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking about that energy because it just 61 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: looked easy, breezy to you guys. 62 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: I mean, of course it was. 63 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: There was season five, but I remember thinking, like, in 64 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: the middle of New York City, Yeah, you guys are 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: able to tune it all out too and have this 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: smellman and fans were watching you, and I was like, yeah, 67 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: that was really cool. 68 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is really cool. 69 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: It's still really cool when we filmed. But the thing 70 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: that's so different is back then and by season five. 71 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much this would be true, but 72 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: when we started, it was almost like Gorilla TV making 73 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: like it wasn't like I had been on Melo's place 74 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: here and it had been this huge like spelling production, right, Yeah, 75 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: but when we went there we often had handheld We 76 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: were shooting on Super. 77 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: Sixteen, which is like totally different. 78 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: And now we have cranes, we have, you know, so 79 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: much stuff because our production value is. 80 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Here and used to be here. But I love I 81 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: love how we used to be, Like it was special 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: and grain and very New York looking. 83 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: But we could also film really quickly because we had 84 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: to do pages and pages a day. But we had wow, 85 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: like seventeen hour days was normal. Why now we had 86 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: a twenty four hour day? 87 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: What? 88 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, we just filmed around. 89 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: What wait, I have a question? Yeah, as an actor, 90 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: why how did that? 91 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 2: And why did that? 92 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah? Why? 93 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: And how? 94 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: We still ask ourselves this Camilla okay because we still 95 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: have really long hours, not as bad, and now they 96 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: make us go at four thirty, whereas we used to 97 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: film until four thirty or whenever the sun came up 98 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: seven thirty. We would just film until the sun came 99 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: up because we would be outside exterior night. 100 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: Right. That was the Saxon City show itself. 101 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: And now we're more outside extra day because of the plotlines, right, 102 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: so they make us get up in the in the 103 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,119 Speaker 1: wee hours and get there. 104 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: But we still sometimes like why are we like this? 105 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: And we really don't know the answer except to say 106 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: except to say that our kind of motors operandi is 107 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: overly ambitious. 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 2: I love that, Thank you. I love it. I mean 109 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: it's great in some ways and then hard in others. 110 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: But like, do you think it's the reason for our 111 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: success and for our continued success? Is it we're always 112 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: kind of overshooting what we actually have been allowed to do. 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like we're just like we're gonna do it all. 114 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: We're going to try to do it all. And do 115 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: we always succeed? No, we don't. Sometimes we fail when 116 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: you swing big, sometimes you don't. Yeah, you don't get there. 117 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: But it's okay. I would prefer that. Are you guys 118 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: allowed to improvise on the side. 119 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: No, Oh, maybe we've been allowed to improvise in the beginning, 120 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: Like there's a scene in the first or second episode 121 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: when we're talking about our perceived faults and they let 122 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: us they left it open in the script because they 123 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: didn't want to say what they thought we might think 124 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: our own faults were. 125 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's really nine to go back and watch that. 126 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: So with the ant, did they keep the answers that 127 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 3: you gave organically improvising? 128 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: Wow, I talk about my thighs. Yeah no, yeah, definitely yeah. 129 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: And that was the band of my existence for quite 130 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: quite some time, which is so silly, but this is 131 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: people were very hard on me, very very hard. 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: That's so funny because I watched the finale episode last night. 133 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: I loved it. 134 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 3: Actually, I love that that was my homework for the 135 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 3: podcast because it felt like, I said, my kids were 136 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: supposed to be going to bed, and I was like, Mommy, 137 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: Mommy's got to watch this show. And it felt like 138 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: I was like, listen, you guys, I would love to 139 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: be giving you a bath right now, but I've. 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: Got to watch I love it. And I was like, yes, 141 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: I was literally in bed like blanket. That's how I 142 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 2: watched it too. Yeah, you are gorgeous and you look 143 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: so weird. I mean, I mean, baby beyond, it's so crazy. 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: And then I had to look up how old all 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: you guys were, because I'm like, what the start, You're 146 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: like early thirties. I think I was. 147 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: I was either thirty two or thirty three, I'm the worst. 148 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Like like people are like, what year was that. 149 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what year it was. Like. 150 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: Also, once we started, it's a blur, but I know 151 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: we were all over thirty. Kim a little older than us, 152 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: which you know, yeah, I think is known fat. 153 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Kim was forty. It said forty two. The internets are 154 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,039 Speaker 3: forty two, which is only a year older than me. 155 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, oh my god, I would 156 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,119 Speaker 3: that's the role I would play. 157 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Really, you're a Samantha. No, I'm not. I'm not a Samantha. 158 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: And by the way, no, I'm just saying age wise now, 159 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: I would be like the one for all the you know, 160 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: the little This is kind of like on our show, 161 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: we had the interns and then we have the right 162 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 5: so it's like me out with the interns a little bit. 163 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: No. 164 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 3: I thought about this because of your podcast title Who 165 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: I Am? That was great, and I've decided. 166 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 2: It changes through the years. Yes, yes, right now, probably 167 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: more of a Charlotte. Oh yeah, because you're in like 168 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: married and in the. 169 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: Married life and then like the mommy mode and trying 170 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: to make it all work right. But then I think 171 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: I would have thought I was a Carrie and then 172 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 3: I watched the episode last night. Not that this is 173 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: going to sound really weird because the episode last night, 174 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: which we'll get into, I have not had the Miranda 175 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: experience in that episode, but no, but I did think 176 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: like maybe I was a Miranda. 177 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: Ooh are you well? 178 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: Because your podcast is called call It what It Is, 179 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of a line. 180 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: She's really blunt, She's about her career, and I think 181 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 3: that and and the dating sort of like is in 182 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: there but not necessarily the focus for her. 183 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: That's true. 184 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And so I think like before I was 185 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 3: a Charlotte, I probably was more Miranda. 186 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love Miranda so much. 187 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: And I think there there was kind of a thing 188 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: for a while that I mean, there was a thing 189 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: for a while about Charlotte being the prude, which is 190 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: hysterical when you actually look at all the things that 191 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Charlotte does early on, it's. 192 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: Not that prudish. Yeah, but there was also a thing 193 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: where Miranda. 194 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: Was thought to be like too uptight or you know, 195 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: like a hard ass or whatever. 196 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't know how to put it. And no, yeah, 197 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: there became a thing where. 198 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: Everyone was like we're all Miranda's you know, they're you know, 199 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: Miranda's wonderful, which I think is true, right, But it 200 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: is interesting culturally to look at what has been kind 201 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: of the end thing to be. And I think everyone 202 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: thought they were a Carrie and then there was like 203 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: this thing of like Carrie's narcissistic, which I find really weird. Yes, 204 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna deal with that when we have Sir 205 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Jesca on, But I mean I don't personally find that 206 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: to be true at all. 207 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: I think that because we're hearing her voiceover and. 208 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: Her just let in a little bit more yes, right, exactly, Yeah, 209 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: And who she's a searcher. 210 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: She's searching, actively searching. 211 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: And investigating, right, so like she's searching for herself, but 212 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: she's also you know, investigating. I recently had Candace on 213 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: who was you know both the original column and she 214 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: still is up there with the facts like this many 215 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: women are single now, this percentage of you know, women 216 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: over forty year singles. Like I was like, oh, you're 217 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: still at it, Like it's amazing, But that's just really 218 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: who she is and she's still actively writing. 219 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: But you know her, she's like a journalist anthropologist in 220 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: a way. 221 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: Of like what are the trends, what are the social trends, 222 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: and so carries that, but she's also on this quest 223 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: for love and really kind of for her own I 224 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: think think where we get to that, we're not really 225 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: there at the end of season one, though she does 226 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: end the show with an amazing quote which. 227 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: We will get to. 228 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: But you know, it's about Michael Patrick would always say 229 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: that it was really about all of our characters search 230 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,239 Speaker 1: for completely loving themselves, loving. 231 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:19,479 Speaker 2: Again in themselves. 232 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: I agree, yeah, which is I mean, such a great, universal, 233 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: incredible message. 234 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: But when we began, we didn't know that. You know, 235 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: we were just like, oh my god, run this crazy 236 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: show and we get to stomp around, you. 237 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 4: Know what I mean, which is so true. 238 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: I'm so happy that you saw us filming back in 239 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: the olden days because we still. 240 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: Sometimes we're like, remember when we used to just wheel. 241 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: The lights down the I mean, I feel like, in 242 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 3: my memory this is a million years ago, clearly, But 243 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: in my memory, there were no like huge lights set ups. 244 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: Definitely no crane. It's just like steady cam maybe like this, 245 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: you know, yep, exactly what It was very simple, but 246 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 3: like it was sex and the same new York City 247 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: wanting to be an actress. 248 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: I mean it was like a moment, amazing, amazing, amazing. 249 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: So you were on Californications with Evan Handler, who plaz 250 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: Harry my husband, who. 251 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: I love very much. 252 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: But can I just tell you I couldn't watch that 253 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: show because I tried once and I literally had nightmares 254 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: about it. 255 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: So there are partners, there are part listen. It's definitely polarizing. 256 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: It's not everyone's cup. 257 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: Of tea because it was Evan and then I David 258 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and totally different characters. 259 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, this is not good for my 260 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: mental health. I can't. Yes, but you were on it 261 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: with us, Evan. 262 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: I was on it with Evan, and when I got 263 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: the role, I knew that I was going to be 264 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: sort of clearly naked, so naked like ass out, boobs 265 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: out naked with somebody. And it's so funny because I 266 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: think about this now now he's anatomy, I'm like, can. 267 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: I have a onesie? If I do a sex scene, 268 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, zip up to my neck. Back then, I 269 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: was like, this is great, what you know, like not stressed, 270 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 2: not strict about it. I really amazing. 271 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: I really wasn't I mean, I mean it was fleeting, clearly, 272 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: I mean, like that moment's gone. 273 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: But but amazing that you had it. Yes, Yes, amazing 274 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: that I had it and Evan. 275 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: They said you're going to be with Evan, and I 276 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: remember thinking Charlotte's husband, and I. 277 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 2: Was like so comforted by, like, oh, I know Evan. 278 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know Evan at all, and he is pretty different. 279 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: He's and he is different. But I have to say that. 280 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 3: You know, you never know in our industry what you're 281 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: going to get, especially when you're in a position on 282 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: a show like that, and it's a you know, it's 283 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 3: the things we had to do were insane. I mean 284 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: we had to like crawl naked and not just sex 285 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 3: scenes but like just just crazy shit crazy. That's what 286 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: the show is. And he was such an amazing co star. 287 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: He was such a gentleman. 288 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: A gentleman. 289 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like we would shoot a sex scene 290 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: and then we would you know, go back within our 291 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 3: little and sit there and he'd be like, so my 292 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 3: wife and kids, and that's what I like it. I 293 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,599 Speaker 3: just and it made me feel so comfortable. 294 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so grateful on the show's you know, yeah, yeah, 295 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: he is and that's so you know, we have we 296 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: have a lover in colle. 297 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Wow, you guys, And I have to say, to Evan's credit, 298 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: there aren't that many stories about Evan because he is 299 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: just very solid. You know, there's not going to be 300 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: a god. 301 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, thank God. 302 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: Still to this day, you know, we still have to 303 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: occasionally do a wacky sex scene. We did have a 304 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: wacky sex scene last season where I know, sometimes you 305 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: read something and you're like, oh, you know this is 306 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: not this is fine. You know, the sheets will be honest, whatever. Yeah, 307 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: we get to work and uh, there's some ideas from 308 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: the director and there's there's a platform built where Evan 309 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: has to basically be in a yoga pose over me 310 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: on a platform. 311 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I'm basic like looking at him. 312 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 2: We couldn't ask what pose it was. It was like, down, dog, 313 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say more. Okay, I'm not gonna say more. Okay, 314 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: don't get in trouble again. Okay, no, no, this is great, 315 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 2: this is great. 316 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: It was funny and and God love Evan, you know 317 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Very calm, you know, very caretaking. Yeah, yeah, 318 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: that would the one was obviously I did take some 319 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: funny pictures because I had to lay there while they 320 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: were kind of building the platform so that I could 321 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: underneath the platform. I did take some funny pictures, but 322 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: I think I forgot to post some. 323 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: I can post this to show people like that happens. 324 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: When was like, did you get turned on? 325 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: You're like no, no, no, anyway, it's time to talk 326 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: about Sexy is another actor. 327 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 2: I love it. Okay, let's talk about the episode. Now. 328 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, so you did you watch like 329 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: at the time that it was airing or what's your relationship? 330 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: I would have absolutely watched the time got it? Okay, 331 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 3: from the beginning the show from the beginning? Oh my god, 332 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 3: I don't know, Okay, I mean yes, I was alive 333 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 3: in that time, which means I was watching the show. 334 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: Every week as the whole world was. I guess. 335 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 3: So, I mean, I know, it doesn't feel like that 336 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: because you're a part of it, and maybe it feels 337 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: like you're in the bubble, which I can feel like 338 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: with Gray's Nanny. 339 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: But yes, I always yes. Okay. 340 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Well, so because HBO, especially first season, you know, was 341 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of new to having original programming, and it was 342 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: like a slow for us it felt like a slow build. Yeah, 343 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: but to think that people who were either in New 344 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: York or LA and were in the business definitely. Like 345 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: I remember I went to see the premiere of Outer 346 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: Site because Clooney was in it. Jenn phi Lopez was 347 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: in it. It's a great movie if you haven't seen it, 348 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: great movie, and I believe Soderberg directed it. 349 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: It's really good. 350 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: And I knew Clooney a little bit because I had 351 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: guest starret on the R which was an amazing situation 352 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: to be around their first season, watch them and how 353 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: they operated, and. 354 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: They do thirty six takes. You know, it's like so cool. 355 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: What Yeah, thirty six Remember those one long takes through 356 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: the hospital. They do thirty six of those. 357 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: Wow, And everyone would just cross in and like the 358 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: walk and talks yes, okay, okay, and you have to 359 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: wait on the side and like come in, and I mean, 360 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean they're you know, four takes. 361 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: We got to move on totally. No, it was it was. 362 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: It was special and weird and amazing. 363 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, And in saying like it was definitely they were 364 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: shooting high also, like it was a different situation. So 365 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: it's fun to be around. And I was I was 366 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: there and I was like, oh, yeah, I want to 367 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: see this movie. And George comes running up to me 368 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: and he says congratulations. 369 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: And I said for what? But I had no idea 370 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 2: what he was talking about. It was like the show's amazing. 371 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: I was like, clod He's watching her show, like amazing. 372 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 2: I was so kind. 373 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: I ask you then, when you felt like you realize 374 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: the impact the show was making, like what it is. 375 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: Quite a while, I would say third probably third season? Yeah, 376 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: I think for for us because partli you're in the bubble, right, 377 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: and we filmed the whole first season without anything airing, 378 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: which is really common now is streaming? 379 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 4: Ye? 380 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: Back then not so much? Right right, If you're writing 381 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: a network show, you wanted to be on and get 382 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: the ratings and look at the demographics and ship things 383 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: or change things or whatever. Ours we shot the whole thing, 384 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: nothing had air, No one knew what we were doing. 385 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Like costume was having a hard time getting closed because 386 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: people thought that we were real sex, which is weird. 387 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: Fields was the field, Yeah. 388 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: I field, But she didn't do the pilot. She came 389 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: on the first season with Molly, who's still doing our costumes, 390 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: did so nineties I know nineties back in it's hysterical. 391 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: I know, it's really funny to me though. Anyway, side note, 392 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back there. But that's okay. 393 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 2: We so third season, second season. 394 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: I feel like we were just like, thank god we 395 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: got picked up, you know what I'm saying, Like, thank 396 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: god we did okay, Like because we expected to be 397 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: kind of a niche. 398 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: Little like a little cult following or whatever. Right, Oh wow, no, 399 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: I know. 400 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,479 Speaker 1: Then third season we shot a lot of episodes. Every 401 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: year would be different amount of episodes because again it 402 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,959 Speaker 1: was HBO. They could do whatever they wanted. And in 403 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: the middle of third season, we got nominated for an Emmy, 404 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: which we never ever ever thought would happen. Ever, might 405 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 1: have been towards the end of the season. I remember 406 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: it was I don't know when they come out, but 407 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: like that means we're in September or whatever. And like 408 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: my phone rang really early and I was so mad, 409 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: like I'm trying to sleep people because we would work 410 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: all night day. Yeah, it was like who is calling me? 411 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: It was my mom calling me to tell me we 412 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: got nominated for him. And I was like, oh, Like 413 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: it was like the world stopped you know what I mean, 414 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: it was like what, like it was unheard of, like 415 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: no cable show had ever won an Emmy, which we 416 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: eventually did, but I mean. 417 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: It was it was shocking because it was this was. 418 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: The same time The Sopranos was coming up, and you know, 419 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: it was like we were part of a wave, which 420 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: is you're pioneering it, which was. 421 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: Great but amazing. We certainly didn't. 422 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: We weren't really aware or even aiming for that, you 423 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, of course, you're just in it, 424 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: trying to do the best you can do. 425 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And then it was like, wow, people are 426 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 2: watching anyway. It was great. 427 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: It was great and so weird to think of it 428 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: being so long ago. You know, it's strange. It's like 429 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: another lifetime in a way. But then also not like 430 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: all the feelings come back, except sometimes when I'm watching it, 431 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I do not remember that. 432 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 2: I still have I have that myself, like from our show. 433 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I get on there like nine years. 434 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 435 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: That's amazing and so rare in our business. 436 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Super rare, right, I mean, like Grez is a unicorn. 437 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: It's like it's an amazing that Yeah, it's really special. 438 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 2: It's really special. 439 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Did you ever think in your own mind? And then 440 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: I will get to the show. But I'm just curious, 441 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: like when you were starting, which obviously you were a kid, 442 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: but when you moved here, did you ever think like 443 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: I want to be on a show and be on 444 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: it for thirteen years? Like did that ever enter your mind? 445 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: No? I just wanted to pay my rent. Yeah yeah, yeah, 446 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: I was watering for so I just wanted to be 447 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: like the dream. The dream changed. 448 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: Over time, right, you just want to work, right, and 449 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: then you want to be able to quit your second 450 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 3: job and work, and then it's like it's slowly. 451 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 2: I tell you what happened. 452 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: For grades, We hit Netflix somewhere around like I forget 453 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 3: which season, and then it just it just got crazy. 454 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: I feel like it just that the show just took 455 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: on a new second life. 456 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Wow. 457 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 2: Interesting. 458 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: So that's when I thought like, oh, we don't have 459 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 3: a few seasons left because we're almost in our tenth 460 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: you know level season, right, this could go for a while, 461 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: and now you know, here we are about to shoot 462 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 3: twenty two. 463 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. Yeah, that is so amazing. I remember when Grays 464 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: came out and it was like, what is this. This 465 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: is interesting. It's a medical. 466 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: Show, but it's also kind of a relationship show. Yeah, 467 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: and there were those high heels and I was like, 468 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: what's that. Yeah, it's super interesting. It's an amalgam of things. 469 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 470 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: But it's been so great because there's been so many 471 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: strong female characters. 472 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's incredible. Oh yeah. 473 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: And also like I'm just so impressed. I have to 474 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 3: say by our guest cast every single week. We just oh, 475 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 3: you guys have amazing, edible people on every week that 476 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: keep me on my toes. 477 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 2: It's well written. 478 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: I think that's why, right, because yeah, sometimes guest stars 479 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: are not interestingly written to anyone. 480 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: But you guys are amazing. A lot of guest stars 481 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: a lot of heart. 482 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that you're so invested by them, in them by 483 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 3: like twenty minutes in, you're like, now I really care 484 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: about this person and their family and their medical condition, and. 485 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: It's really special. I get a lot of anxiety watching 486 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: medical shows. Well I have a lot of medical anxiety 487 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: me too. I don't know how you handle it a 488 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: lot of I actually talked to my therapist about this 489 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: this week because I was like. 490 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 3: It's probably in a way the worst show I could 491 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: have gone because I know everything that you could possibly 492 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: get every disaster. 493 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: Oh no, but God bless Zoloft. I talk about this 494 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: all day early and that helps. What works. Whatever works. 495 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I tried to watch The Pit and I was like, kidd, 496 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: I can't watch can't watch that. 497 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: I mean, God bless them. I know that feels. 498 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 3: I have enough of it on our show, and I 499 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: love our show, but I don't need to go home 500 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: and then watch more medical murger. 501 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean no, And like I already wasn't, but it's 502 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: on Max. So I felt like I should. I love 503 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: No Wiley, do what I mean? 504 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: And so I was like, let's see. I was like yeah, no, no, 505 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: no no. 506 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: Also, I can only watch that tiny window since the 507 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: kids have gone to bed right so it's right before 508 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: my bed. It's only a tiny window for me, and 509 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: I can't have that beat. No, no, no, no, I agree, 510 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: it's not good. 511 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: It is why I love reality TV. This is why 512 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: I watched The Housewives. 513 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean, people, people tell me this. I have never 514 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: seen the Housewise got a terrible time. I know, I 515 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: have never seen that. 516 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 2: Feel like Sex and the City sort of inspired a 517 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: show like that is sweet that is sweet. We know 518 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: Andy Cohen really well, and so I guess on some 519 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: level we could take credit for it, But I don't know. 520 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: I think it was really just the magic of Andy, 521 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like Andy, I don't know, 522 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 2: there's a little like of that. Like I've never seen 523 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: it because a lot of these housewives end up single 524 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: and so then you're watching their dating lives and fashion 525 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 2: and all the things. 526 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: I've never thought about that that's interesting. See, that's weird, 527 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: Like how do they just get divorced during the show. 528 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: I mean they're following people for like sometimes. 529 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: Like you know, so many they're exposing their lives and 530 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 3: life is tough, right, and so you see people like 531 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 3: some people get married and engage and then they're divorced. 532 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: And yes, wow, I do think that's interesting. Has a 533 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 3: little has it has its hands in there as you. 534 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Guys see Yeah, yeah, yeah, we ran into Andy. We 535 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: were in a restaurant filming one of our many They're 536 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: the the thing that I. 537 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: Like, and then we're gonna rewatch. We're gonna get to 538 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: the rewatch. 539 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: And when I'm watching back, one of the things that 540 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: I loved see is that we have these kind of 541 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: go to moments. I'm sure you probably feel this on 542 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: Grace too, where like we kind of do it over 543 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: and over. 544 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 2: Again through the years, and I love to see it. 545 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: One is Carrie and Miranda walking talking, because those are 546 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: always really deep conversations that it's Carrie and Miranda. 547 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 2: Like they are very much. 548 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of this back then, and I really 549 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: wasn't aware of it until I started rewatching. It's a 550 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: very interesting relationship that they have, unlike the rest of us. 551 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 2: Oh interesting because Miranda. 552 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 1: Kind of calls carry on her stuff, you know, and 553 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: she also is a little bit you know, pessimistice you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. 554 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 2: Rough or whatever. 555 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: So Carrie will be like maybe not, and she'll be 556 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: like maybe yeah, you know, like just cut it right 557 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: out from under her, you know what I mean. Which 558 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: is really interesting, and I feel like she's the only one, 559 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Samantha in some ways, well she she just 560 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: has her general you kind of know what her take 561 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: is going to be. 562 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: Her take is going to be like do what you 563 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 2: want Annie, you know, in that way. 564 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: But like Miranda, really Carrie kind of you know, gives 565 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: her her her biggest worries or her deepest thoughts or whatever. 566 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: And Miranda's like, wow, it's super interesting. 567 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: But they also really love each other obviously. And the 568 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: other one is that we do have this thing. We 569 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: did it early on maybe the first episode after the pilot, 570 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: where we meet up at the end of the episode 571 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: somewhere like at a restaurant or at a movie theater. 572 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: It was at a movie theater first season, and we 573 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: all hug and then we go in and this is 574 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: something we've done over the years, Like at the end 575 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: of the first movie, it's for Samantha's birthday. 576 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 2: That was ended up being the poster of the film. 577 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: It was not supposed to be the poster, but we're 578 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: walking in the meatpacking district and it was the wee hours, 579 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: like possibly four am, and it had rained. And then 580 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: also we went down the street how they do, you know, 581 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: and to make it look beautiful, and there's a puddle 582 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: and Sir Jesska's wearing her Dere Warrior shoes they have 583 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: a better name, Gloodiator, and there's cobblestone and we I 584 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: had to hold there's elbow because I'm wearing like a 585 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: vintage pair of I want to say Mark Jacobs meme 586 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: something that had a decent heel because Sarah was, you know, 587 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: falling in the in the cobblestones and it was wet. 588 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: We had to jump over this puddle. 589 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: So I'm holding Sir Jessica's elbow to jump over the puddle. 590 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: I wake up the next. 591 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: Morning, could not walk, could not get out of bed, 592 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: Like one whole. 593 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 2: Side of me was just like in a total spasm. 594 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean. 595 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: So whenever I see that poster, I laughed, like, well, 596 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: at least it was worth it. It's the poster for 597 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: the film. It's the one cheat, right, I'm laughing. 598 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 3: You're laughing at those way a little bit because you're 599 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: like the glad and the vintage Marchin And I'm thinking 600 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 3: about how we get to change out our sneakers on 601 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: the show probably every two years, right, and they're like 602 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: They're like, here's some Adidas and I's so I'm like, 603 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 3: oh my gosh. 604 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 2: Like feet are doing a lot better than ours. Yes, 605 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's worth it. I don't know. 606 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 2: Every morning when I wake up, my right foot is numb. 607 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: I I take no per vintage Mark Jacobs. I might okay, 608 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 2: fair enough, fair enough, that's true. I just sometimes feel guilty. 609 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: I feel guilty, that's true. 610 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, look they're amazing. They're amazing shoes. We 611 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: get amazing shoes. But people are always like, how. 612 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 2: Do you do it? I'm like, pain, okay, pain, no pain, 613 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 2: like pain. Let's you know what I mean. This is 614 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: so exciting. I mean we're spoiled routten, no doubt, no doubt. 615 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: But anyway, we meet up in that scene at the 616 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: after jumping over the puddle in the middle of the night, 617 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: we meet up and they pull away with the crane 618 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: and you know, we're together celebrating and we just did 619 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: it again. And then just like that, and Andy and 620 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: John Benjamin Hickey, who's in this episode, happened to be. 621 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: Walking by with pizza. 622 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,199 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up in the village and we 623 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: were like, guys, and they came. 624 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: In and the propazzi were there and took pictures and 625 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: we were like, why don't they be in the scene. 626 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: They're like, we gotta go, Homny pizza. They're over us. 627 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: Now, they're so over us, you know what I mean. Okay, 628 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: he's so good. Okay, this is we love. John Benjamin Hicky, 629 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: who plays the Catholic guy, is. 630 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: That who that's John Benjamin Hickey. And he's married to 631 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: any Cohen. 632 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: No, oh no, no, no, no any single right, any single. 633 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna have so hard. I don't know you said 634 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 2: there walking together. 635 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: He's very close friends, they're not married. Okay, very close friends. 636 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: You are adorable. Very close friends. 637 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: And all breaking a parent of two. 638 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so we we always we always have a 639 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: bonding a good bonding experience. Okay, we have so much 640 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: to say about the finale of the first season that 641 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: we're going to make this into another. 642 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: Episode of podcasting. Okay, come back on Wednesday.