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Speaker 1: Oh, welcome back. In our number two Clay Traravis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show, Thursday edition of the program. I want to

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Speaker 1: hit you with a couple of good news stories, I

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Speaker 1: would say, because we've had a lot of negativity certainly

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Speaker 1: that is out there in general. Let me share some

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Speaker 1: of these. The COVID emergency, Buck has officially ended. The

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Speaker 1: Senate passed a bill to end the COVID emergency. The

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Speaker 1: House has also passed that bill, and Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: said he will not veto it. He is going to

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Speaker 1: sign it, and so now I had to be fair

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Speaker 1: and I can drive around without a mask on now, Clay,

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Speaker 1: is that what you're telling me? I think Biden had

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Speaker 1: said that he was gonna end. What did he say,

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Speaker 1: like May eleventh, the COVID emergency was officially gonna be

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Speaker 1: over or whatever it was. That has now passed to

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Speaker 1: the Senate. It has now passed the House, and it

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Speaker 1: passed in a pretty substantial majority because Joe Biden once

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Speaker 1: again left the House out to dry because he said

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Speaker 1: he didn't tell them before the House vote that he

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Speaker 1: would sign this, much like he did with the DC bill.

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Speaker 1: As it pertains to safety, security and everything else that

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Speaker 1: he ended up signing, so the COVID emergency three years

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Speaker 1: after it started fifteen days to drop the spread turned

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Speaker 1: into basically a thousand days of COVID emergency. We should

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Speaker 1: never do this again, and frankly, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: president should ever have the ability to do this again.

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Speaker 1: I think Congress should have to pass a bill mandating

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Speaker 1: a national emergency like this in a health related setting.

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Speaker 1: I'll just toss that out. There is something that I

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Speaker 1: think we should debate. Now. Do we want one person

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Speaker 1: able to make this decision potentially influenced by the faucies

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Speaker 1: of the world, or do you want your elected representatives

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Speaker 1: to be able to have that authority. I'd rather have

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Speaker 1: this authority vest in many ways in the House and

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Speaker 1: the Senate Constitution wasn't much of a protection, was it. No.

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Speaker 1: Something we have to be honest about. When they shut

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Speaker 1: down churches, the weed stores were open, no church allowed.

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Speaker 1: Buck They're gonna make movies that young kids now who

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Speaker 1: will not remember it, will watch and you're you're grand

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Speaker 1: I know this. My grandkids are gonna come in and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, Grandpa, did they really tell you

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Speaker 1: that you had to walk one way down in aisle,

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Speaker 1: and that you couldn't buy anything unless it was essential,

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Speaker 1: and like, they're not gonna believe that it was real,

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Speaker 1: just a preview. Twenty thirty years from now when I've

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Speaker 1: got grandkids, hopefully they're gonna be watching movies and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, did twenty twenty really happen, Grandpa? And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, and it's gonna be even more

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Speaker 1: staggering how stupid so many of these COVID zelots were.

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Speaker 1: As the years continue to add up, we talked about this, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I came on and put my legal hat on

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Speaker 1: to discuss it. Tucker Carlson shared the January sixth footage

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Speaker 1: of the QAnon Shaman. That QAnon Shaman footage, according to

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Speaker 1: his own defense attorney, was not shared with him as

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Speaker 1: part of government's discovery obations. That is to me, a

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Speaker 1: pretty clear violation of the obligations of the government. You

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Speaker 1: have to share all evidence, whether it is favorable or

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Speaker 1: unfavorable for a defendant. The QAnon Shaman has now been

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Speaker 1: let out of prison fourteen months early. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's a coincidence, Buck, that this comes just what like

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Speaker 1: two or three weeks on the heels of Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 1: airing the footage of the January sixth incidents surrounding the

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Speaker 1: QAnon Shaman. He became this shaman did sort of I

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Speaker 1: would say, the most famous of all January sixth people,

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Speaker 1: and he was considered to be one of the leaders

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Speaker 1: looks like unfortunately what he is, which is a sad,

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Speaker 1: trying to overturn the United States government. There were Democrats

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Speaker 1: I remember this who were arguing that because he was

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Speaker 1: carrying a spear, yeah, they should add a deadly weapon

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Speaker 1: enhancement to his charge somehow, or they should find a

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Speaker 1: way to make it that, you know, effectively you know,

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Speaker 1: They were making that argument, they were, and it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: and it was indefensible, and it is now out the window.

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Speaker 1: I want to echo again more good news, although it's

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Speaker 1: coming late. The WHO is now saying that kids and

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Speaker 1: teenagers do not need to get the COVID shot because

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Speaker 1: they're at such low risk of COVID. We just said

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Speaker 1: that at the end of the hour, but I want

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Speaker 1: all of you to hear it out there, because I

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Speaker 1: know many parents out there who made this choice for

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Speaker 1: their kids. And you have been called anti vaccine, You

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Speaker 1: have been raped over the coals. You may have had issues.

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Speaker 1: I know this has happened unfortunately, Buck because many of

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Speaker 1: the Fauci zealots were so in belief that this shot

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Speaker 1: was necessary that they wouldn't hang out with their grandkids,

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Speaker 1: known that that is a worthless shot for kids and teenagers,

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Speaker 1: as we have said for some time on this program.

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Speaker 1: But I want to circle back around to the to

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Speaker 1: the debate that is currently still in full flourishment, and

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Speaker 1: that is over guns. Right. Crazy trans girl shoots up

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Speaker 1: not about her. It's about the fact that she was

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Speaker 1: able to get guns according to Democrats. And I will

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Speaker 1: point this out, Buck, this is your TikTok ally j

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Speaker 1: Jamal Bowman. Oh hey, earlier this week, you and Bowman

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Speaker 1: thickest thieves. You're TikTok borough with me on this one, sir.

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Speaker 1: You got arms around each other. You're both saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: this TikTok thing. There's no way we can do this.

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Speaker 1: So Jamal Bowman decides that he is going to go

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Speaker 1: I do. Uh. Senator Blackburn and Senator Haggerty, the two

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Speaker 1: would provide nearly a billion dollars to schools so they

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Speaker 1: can hire more armed security to protect students all over

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Speaker 1: the nation. I think we need to invest more than that.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it costs to put armed security in every single

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Speaker 1: I think you would be two. Buck. But Jamal Bowman,

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Speaker 1: he says, more guns, more death. He completely goes off

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Speaker 1: outside of the House chambers. This is what it sounded

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Speaker 1: like last night more because look at the data. They're

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Speaker 1: not looking at any data. More sees hoping laws, every

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Speaker 1: hoping litening to what I'm saying. I'm dying. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the congressman you heard in their shouting. That was Thomas

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Speaker 1: the truth. He said, more gun's equals more death. That's

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Speaker 1: the line he was shouting at him, over and over

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Speaker 1: and over again. Okay, let's go through some states, Clay.

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Speaker 1: Let's go through some states. Now, everybody that have the

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Speaker 1: can conceal carre in Vermont. You don't need a permit

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Speaker 1: in Vermont, I think now conceal versus open carry. I

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Speaker 1: don't know offhand every state's loss. Just to be claris

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get this wrong, but I know

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Speaker 1: you can conceal carry. I know you don't need any

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Speaker 1: kind of a permit. It's a shall issue state. They

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Speaker 1: have how many murders a year Clay on average Vermont

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Speaker 1: the whole six hundred thousand people ten that's about right,

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Speaker 1: unheard of that someone gets murdered in Vermont. So ever

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Speaker 1: Vermont half of households have guns. Sore are three hundred

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Speaker 1: count the Yellowstone murders because they're actually taking place in

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Speaker 1: Yellowstone is more dangerous than Fallujah. Clay As I keep

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Speaker 1: what I bet. There have been more deaths on Yellowstone,

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Speaker 1: getting shot. I'm like, well, unfortunately, sir, that is inaccurate.

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Speaker 1: refuted because it's based in emotion, it's based on what

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Speaker 1: And that's not even just gun violence, that's all laws.

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Speaker 1: class guy with middle class parents. He's still middle class guy.

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Speaker 1: Might not not out of the book deal, but he's not.

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Speaker 1: He's not a wealthy guy at all, not by congressional standards,

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Speaker 1: not by gubernatorial standards. He could say I'm just like you.

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Speaker 1: I grew up middle class. He might say, nobody gave

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Speaker 1: me millions of dollars. He might say that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he could theoretically, and he could start to reach out

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Speaker 1: more importantly, reach out to the you know, the Trump base,

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Speaker 1: the working class, you know. And it's funny because I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Trump bas finds working class to be

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Speaker 1: some kind of pejorative. They're working really hard, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to stay ahead of their bills, they're working right reach

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Speaker 1: out to the Trump base that is working for for

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Speaker 1: their pay every day and say I'm the one who

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Speaker 1: understands your struggle. I lived your struggle, and I will

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Speaker 1: actually do things to help your struggle. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's where he has to go, because if it turns

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Speaker 1: into even though Trump went to an Ivy League school

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Speaker 1: and is a billionaire and all that, if it turns

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Speaker 1: into Trump is the guy that you know that the

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Speaker 1: construction workers, the truck drivers and the you know, the

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Speaker 1: patrol men love, and Ronda Santis is the guy that

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Speaker 1: you know people looking at their four or one case

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Speaker 1: from the golf course love. In this Republican primary, Trump's

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Speaker 1: gonna win. What I would say, in generally, I said

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Speaker 1: this yesterday, the only way to Santist can win is

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Speaker 1: if he's willing to straight up call Trump a loser.

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Speaker 1: Nobody but let me say this too, nobody else is

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Speaker 1: even in the race. Trump has been incredibly smart because

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Speaker 1: he recognizes his only competition is to Santis. Have you

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Speaker 1: heard Trump hardly say anything about Nicky Haley or Mike

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Speaker 1: Pompeo or Mike Pence or Tem Scott or whoever. It is,

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Speaker 1: zero conversation about it. And I have been really impressed

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Speaker 1: with Trump's ability to increase his support since November, when

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say he was at his

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Speaker 1: nator he was at his low. He has increased his

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Speaker 1: support substantially. Now what I would say in general, I

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Speaker 1: flagged this because I thought it was so interesting, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take a shot at Rudy Juley

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Speaker 1: with these numbers, But at this exact time, Buck in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, do you know what the polls

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Speaker 1: were showing this week two thousand and eight Republican nomination

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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani plus sixteen plus ten plus thirteen plus nine

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Speaker 1: plus fourteen. Rudy Giuliani didn't even get into the race hardly.

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Speaker 1: So we're still so far out. Lots of things can change.

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Speaker 1: Iowa and New Hampshire will tell us far more. I

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Speaker 1: would tell you to pay attention to the primary polls

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Speaker 1: in Iowa and New Hampshire as opposed to the nation

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Speaker 1: as a whole, because as we have seen, whatever happens

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Speaker 1: in those primaries altars that you're rejectory a ton. And

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Speaker 1: remember what did Biden come in fifth in Iowa and

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Speaker 1: fifth in fifth in New Hampshire? I think, and then

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Speaker 1: he won the primary in South Carolina and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: even close. If we had come on back after Iowa

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire and said Biden's the guy, people would have

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Speaker 1: laughed us out of the building. Remember the great hope,

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Speaker 1: the great hope of Democrats in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: I won't try to do an impersonation of the scream

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Speaker 1: Howard Dean. Oh yeah, Howard Dean. Remember that he was

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Speaker 1: the tie man. He was ahead, he was so yeah.

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Speaker 1: To your point, it doesn't tell you very much who's

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Speaker 1: in leading the polls right now. But I do think

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Speaker 1: there are some big, outstanding battles and some big components

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Speaker 1: of the of the narrative that are already set in

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Speaker 1: place right now. And I think one challenge from the

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Speaker 1: disantists camp, assuming he gets in, we're all assuming it,

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Speaker 1: so I guess I'll stop saying it assuming he gets in, um,

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Speaker 1: is that there's a you know, I think at the

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Speaker 1: at the level of a governor, great results are really

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Speaker 1: the best you can ask for generally, right, If you

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Speaker 1: get great results from your governor, that's that's what you want, right,

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Speaker 1: Because I don't really I don't care what the governor

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Speaker 1: of you know, Montana is doing really like, doesn't affect

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Speaker 1: your life, right You don't care what the governor of

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Speaker 1: you know, New Mexico is doing right now, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: really affect you. Once you get under the presidential side

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Speaker 1: of things, you have to be more than just good

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Speaker 1: at that job that you had. You have to be

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Speaker 1: the leader of a movement, of a national movement, which

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Speaker 1: takes a whole additional skill set into play. I will

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Speaker 1: say I think that the Santist team did not anticipate

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Speaker 1: Trump coming after them this hard and landing so many blows.

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Speaker 1: That's all Trump does, really, you don't think, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on, this is like Trump lives for this, He

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Speaker 1: loves this. Yeah, but I don't know that. Like the

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Speaker 1: Piers Morgan interview to me, feels like a response to

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Speaker 1: something you weren't expecting. Does that make sense? Like if

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Speaker 1: if he had done an interview with the sit down

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Speaker 1: with Piers Morgan felt like a, Hey, we need to

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Speaker 1: say something and I don't know that. Here here's my

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Speaker 1: question for you, Buck, And this is I think an

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Speaker 1: interesting question. Why would you not go ahead and announce

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Speaker 1: if you're de Santis? Well, so there's there's some I

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Speaker 1: actually have seen some analysis of this. That one, there's

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Speaker 1: a rule in Florida that has to be there's a

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Speaker 1: state law that I think has to be amended um

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Speaker 1: for him to to currently be able to, you know, resign,

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Speaker 1: there's like a resign to run, resign to run provision

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Speaker 1: um that has to go away. I think, am I

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Speaker 1: that's interesting on that, I don't know. I haven't read

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Speaker 1: anything about that. So that's and I think I think

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Speaker 1: that may not be that that the issue is. Also

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Speaker 1: I think he wants to finish out the legislative session

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Speaker 1: right now, which ends and put some wins on the board.

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Speaker 1: And I understand that. But when you're default in the race,

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Speaker 1: we're basically to April. What's the difference between announcing in

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Speaker 1: Maybe just go ahead and get in the ring and

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Speaker 1: start throwing punches now would be my response. I think

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Speaker 1: they have just Trump has landed a lot of blows.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean that this race is over. We got a

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Speaker 1: long way to go. But that's my kind of thought

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Speaker 1: effectively being able to return fire. It seems necessary, but

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Speaker 1: you may be right. There may be a local Florida

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Speaker 1: Clay and I can talk about a great achievement in athletics.

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Speaker 1: A guy in Canadian was a Canadian powerlifting I think

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Speaker 1: it was set the all time female record by deciding

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Speaker 1: that he would identify as female for the purposes of

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Speaker 1: the competition, and so he is now I suppose technically,

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Speaker 1: because in Canada it is just that is the law.

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Speaker 1: You can say, I'm I'm competing as a female. A female.

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Speaker 1: So he's now the deadlift or overhead press or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I'd even know what the exercise was he was doing.

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Speaker 1: It is such a ridiculous spot. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how other than ridicule, this rectifies itself, Buck than to

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Speaker 1: just continue to do what this guy is doing, mocking

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Speaker 1: the certity of Canada, effectively saying, hey, we're having weightlifting

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Speaker 1: contests and you can compete as whichever gender you want

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Speaker 1: to say you are, and it's it's absolutely crazy. This

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Speaker 1: is Av Silverberg, who has quite a beard. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Av Silverberg at a at a powerlifting competition broke the

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Speaker 1: female bench press record with a two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: pound press. So yeah, women's category. Oh that was officially

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Speaker 1: previously set by a translifter, by the way, Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: what he's doing. He's mocked. He's breaking the trans record,

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Speaker 1: that's right, or the female record by a trans individual.

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Speaker 1: Our friend Zubie, who was super Ripped that we've had

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Speaker 1: on the show before, has talked about this like he

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Speaker 1: did it as a funny viral moment. But this is

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Speaker 1: actually Canadian weightlifting competitions. They are so woke now that

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Speaker 1: even a man with a full Beard can say I

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Speaker 1: identify as a woman and now has broken all the

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Speaker 1: women's records which were previously broken by a guy who

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Speaker 1: decided to identify as a woman. So we a love this.

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Speaker 1: It's just absolutely ridiculous. So I think, Um, I think

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Speaker 1: then we've kind of covered that story. That's pretty much

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Speaker 1: that story. Actually we're talking about the next hour. We

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Speaker 1: kind of just covered that story right now, so perhaps

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Speaker 1: we will get to or some other things as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have Sean in Hamilton, Ohio. Sean, you got some thoughts?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey, guys? Um, I listen to you

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Speaker 1: all the time and I enjoy your show. Loved rush

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Speaker 1: you guys. Thank you. The thing I think Trump is

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Speaker 1: trying to do is make sure that if he does

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Speaker 1: not get in, that the next best option does. And

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Speaker 1: the way that he fights, he's always playing chess, he

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Speaker 1: doesn't play checkers. He's always trying to make sure that

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Speaker 1: he's got bases covered. And I think he's poking at

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Speaker 1: Desantists to make sure that Desantists actually gets in and runs,

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Speaker 1: because if people choose the Scantist, then more power to him.

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Speaker 1: I think he knows that he's the best option besides him. No,

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Speaker 1: I respect, I respect that opinion one hundred percent. He's

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Speaker 1: going after Decantists to try to intimidate him from running.

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Speaker 1: I don't think in an idea, if Desantist doesn't run,

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Speaker 1: then effectively there's no twenty four Republican battle, right you

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Speaker 1: agree with that? Back thing? Nobody is that is currently

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Speaker 1: announced or that even could announce, has a chance to

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Speaker 1: beat Trump. But de Santis and I think Trump knows it,

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Speaker 1: and I think he's taken body blows at De Santist

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Speaker 1: right now, basically without de Santists really defending himself because

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Speaker 1: he believes Trump does that he's going to be the nominee. Otherwise, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I there's one thing. It's Decantist. There's no he's not

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Speaker 1: going to be president. Everybody really ideas Bolton, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: idea of Trump that Trump is attacking the Santists to

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Speaker 1: try to encourage him to run. I think it's the

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Speaker 1: exact opposite. I think he would like to knock him

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Speaker 1: out before he even enters the race, but or have

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Speaker 1: him come into the race already, really, you know, stumbling

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Speaker 1: and and behind. Reggie and Melbourne, Florida has got some

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Speaker 1: thoughts on this too, and Reggie what do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? I love your show. Thank you a great

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Speaker 1: job taking over for rush Um. I watched about fort

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Speaker 1: of Hannity's interview with him, and then I listened to

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Speaker 1: him lie about Ronda Sannis. So earlier in the day

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Speaker 1: on Monday on Brett Fair, they played him talking about

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Speaker 1: how just Fannis had shut down Florida, and then they

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Speaker 1: played four flip starting on April twenty eighth, all the

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Speaker 1: way up till I want to say the end of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty where he said Bard is open, Sannis doing

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Speaker 1: great job. I just want you guys to call him

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Speaker 1: out when he lies about the fantas, because thank you

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Speaker 1: for the call. This single worst angle for Trump to

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Speaker 1: attack the Santis on, in my opinion, is how he

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Speaker 1: goes it. Lord, That's that's just not worthing issue. It's

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Speaker 1: just not going to work. He's wrong and it is

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Speaker 1: a monster loser for him. And there are other angles

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Speaker 1: to hit him on, but I think that works against

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Speaker 1: Trump when he takes that attack line. Fleet Travis and

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front lines of the Truth