1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to a football Friday, Bird Gang, perhaps one of 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: the more unusual football Fridays. Plenty of questions about the 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: game at the Jets, none of which involve x's and oh's, 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: and we'll get into what the Cardinals need to do 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: to win in New York. Mike Jarecki has his three 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: keys and the X factor, plus general manager Steve Kim 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: some strong statements. Will see how his team reacts. It's 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, Episode three twenty nine, and it starts now. 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit acy 12 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: throws near sight of Fritz Bot send the ans after 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki LMJ. These 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: are certainly unprecedented times in our country and really the 16 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: entire world. We are living through a pandemic. Things can 17 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: change at a moment's notice, meaning what is true as 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: we record this podcast may change by the time the 19 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: burd gang has a chance to listen. So we're operating 20 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: today's show. In the words a general manager, Steve com 21 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: who this morning on ninety eight seven FM Arizona Sports 22 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: station said, quote, like anything else in twenty twenty, we 23 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: will prepare as normal and adjust as necessary end quote. 24 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Of course, the Jets earlier this morning reportedly had a 25 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: presumptive positive test for COVID nineteen, which for several minutes, 26 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe several hours, kind of threw things all into a lurch, 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: not knowing what was going to happen. As we've seen already, 28 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: the NFL has moved the Patriots Broncos game to Monday night. 29 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: The Titans Bills are scheduled for Tuesday. Right now, though, 30 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: as head coach Cliff Kingsbury said, it is business as 31 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: usual Cardinals and Jets Week five, ten am kickoff. Yeah, 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: and according to the NFL networks, Judy Batista, who's covered 33 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: a league for a long time, paraphrasey, if one player 34 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: does test positive or it's a false positive, the league 35 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: would not cancel the game. That's good to know. We'll 36 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: wait and see, but we are just going to go 37 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: as this was a normal football Friday here on Cardinals 38 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 39 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: So let's get into it and specifically what coach Kingsbury 40 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: had to say, because it was the same question you 41 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: asked of him a week ago. He was asked again 42 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: the preparation, how practice was the energy, the focus? His 43 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: words felt like a good week of preparation. Then, of 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 1: course he added, we'll see if it translates. Well. Initially 45 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: I thought losing to the Lions was a wake up call, 46 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: and then when you lose two in a row and 47 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: you go back and watch the film and this is 48 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: very correctible when it comes to tackling, obviously staying in 49 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: your gap and then you know, trying to get the 50 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: opposing team off the field on third downs in the 51 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: red zone. So I think in bringing a guy like 52 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker back, who Steve kinbially said is the heart 53 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: and soul of this defense, I think he's the glue 54 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: of the defense. We know he's a leader. You're gonna 55 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: have Deontay Thompson out there, so things will be different, 56 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: but a sense of urgency, attention to detail, look at 57 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: the small things you can't have twelve players on the 58 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: field and then have ten players on the field. You 59 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: got to avoid these presnap penalties, post snap penalties. I 60 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. And last week penalties wasn't 61 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: an issue. Okay, that was not an issue. But you 62 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: could check that off the list and no more excuses. 63 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: You played twenty five percent of your season. Everyone's been 64 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: in the same boat. Some teams are ahead of the others. 65 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Clearly the offenses are much head of the defenses, and 66 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: normally when you get to December, in January, Craig as 67 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: bertram Berry says, give me a traveling defense, a good 68 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: special teams, and you can muck those games out. So 69 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: you know what we talk about, a foot friding in 70 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: the Fitz Barty, it's get back Friday. They got to 71 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: get this game get right Friday, because this is one 72 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: you have to have. And we've heard not only this week, 73 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: but we've heard it time in and time again, the 74 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: adage control what you can control. In fact, what a 75 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Baker brought it up earlier today when he was asked 76 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: about what's going on with the Jets. It's all about 77 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: focusing on yourself, focusing on the team, do what you 78 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: can do, and I think with the way the Jets 79 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: are going right now without a win and just not 80 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: very good on offense and struggling at times on defense, 81 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: this is a game the Cardinals should win. And it's 82 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: certainly a game that right now they need to to 83 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 1: get rid of the bad taste from the previous two 84 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: weeks and then just get some positive vibes, some positive 85 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: momentum moving forward, especially as Larry Fitzgerald pointed out yesterday. Look, 86 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: the NFC West, this is a tough division. You can't 87 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: fall too far behind and hope to catch up. You 88 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: need to keep pace and hopefully at some point get 89 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: out in front of everyone else. Yeah, I mean, just 90 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: based on you know, the schedule, and we know, you know, 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: we didn't think that. At least I didn't think the 92 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: Niners would lose to the Eagles. But I gotta assume 93 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: when it comes to the NFC West, they're probably all 94 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna win this week, and that means the Cardinals should 95 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: be in that conversation. Well, let's look at it real fast. 96 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: For the bird Gang, the Seahawks host the Vikings on 97 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: Sunday Night football. The Rams are at Washington and the 98 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers host the Dolphins again on pay for 99 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: all winnable ball games for the NFC West. None more 100 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: winnable on paper here than the Cardinals going to take 101 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: on a Jets team only the tenth matchup ever between 102 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: these two teams, and the Cardinals have not won against 103 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: the Jets in New York since nineteen seventy five. They 104 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: don't play a lot, but often enough to where you 105 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: certainly don't want a fifth straight losing trip to face 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the Jets, because the Cardinals have lost each of their 107 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: past four visits to New York. All Right, we gave 108 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: you your homework assignment on Thursday. While you're watching Thursday 109 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Night Football, it's time for Mike Jarecki's three keys plus 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: NX factor. What must happen for the Cardinals to get 111 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: a victory on Sunday. Let's go through them one by one, MJ. 112 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: The first key in your minds for the Cardinals here 113 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: in week five, well, number one would be Cardinals run 114 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: defense must improve from the last two weeks to rank 115 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: nineteenth in the league against the run. The coming off 116 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: a loss gave up one hundred and seventy yards. I 117 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: do think if the New York Jets are going to 118 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: be a competitive in this game. They're gonna want to 119 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: run the football once again, keep the Cardinals offense off 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: the field. They do have Frank Gore, very savvy back, 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: he's patient, could be your short yardage guy, and then 122 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: you have a guy like Levyan Bell who I would 123 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: consider a dual threat. They have no problem, you know, 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: running that screen pass and the Cardinal's got to do 125 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a much better job covering the screen because basically allow 126 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the guys that rush up the field, flackwill holds, holds 127 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: and then he throws that pass in a four yard 128 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: pass becomes a ten yard game. So they have to 129 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: make them, you know, obviously, you know, put him in 130 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: third and long basically, so I want to see the 131 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: rush defense because that's where you're going to hang your hat. 132 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: We'll see if they're able to force any turnovers. And then, 133 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: like I said, by putting them in third and long, 134 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: that will help you not only in the red zone, 135 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: but also when you want to get him off the field. 136 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: The Jets just twenty sixth with the rush offense this 137 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: season ninety eight and a half yards per contest, though 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: they do have some veterans who know what it's like 139 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: to have extended running plays and be good in the 140 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: ground game. In a Frank Gore and Albion Bell, we'll 141 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: see just how much, if any, we see of Bell 142 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Remember it's coming off injured reserve got hurt 143 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: in week one, a hamstring injuring. You never know with those. 144 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about Bell and Gore, these guys 145 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: are well experienced, and that can be a little bit 146 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: of a concern, just because the experience can sometimes be 147 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: better or outweigh talents, especially when you get in between 148 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: the lines and you start playing for real. Yes, and 149 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go with number two. Make Joe Flackle 150 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: one dimensional. Talk about that, regardless of One of the 151 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: biggest Chess weaknesses is their lack of big place generating 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: on off They ranked thirty second in passing one hundred 153 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: and seventy nine point five years per game. They're only 154 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: averaging five yard point per pass. Obviously, that was when 155 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: Donald and Flaco got two receptions and completions. He'll be 156 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: under each center, he won't be in the shotgun like 157 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: Sam Donald was. So you know the Cardinals defense, if 158 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: they make them one dimensional. We talked about shutting the 159 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: run game, they make them one dimensional. Then I think 160 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: when you look at it from that standpoint, it's really 161 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: going to help them possibly get some turnovers and get 162 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: some pressure. Maybe Chandler Jones, remember the last time he 163 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: played at Metlive Stadium last year against the Giants, had 164 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: four sacks. He only has the one this season that 165 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: was Week one, So certainly would love to see fifty 166 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: five come off the ball, maybe not only get the sack, 167 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: but a strip sack as well. Make how about this 168 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: make your presence felt if you're a Chandler Jones in 169 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: this week's contest on the road in New York. Yeah, 170 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and hopefully that's the plan. We're going to get into 171 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: that here momentarily. Number one is Kyler Murray's got to 172 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 1: improve in the intermediate routes eleven to nineteen yards right now, 173 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: he's fifty four percent. That's down from a year ago. 174 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: He's got to go through his progressions. Now you're starting 175 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: to see you know some you know some more fantasy sites, 176 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: but it obviously is analytics in football, and they're wondering 177 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: why this offense is not clicking with the addition of 178 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. Is he's becoming too much a focal point. 179 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: I want to say, maybe he's thirty seven percent going 180 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: in the last week of the Cardinals offense. I don't 181 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: believe that's the case. I think Kyla Murray's got to improve. 182 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: And it's not so much as sitting in the pocket. 183 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: It's you know, expanding the pocket, move outside, shuffle left 184 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,239 Speaker 1: or right, and guys are open healthy. Christian Kirk, Larry Fitzgerald. 185 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: According to Steve kid they got to get him involved early. 186 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: Were heard about this last week. I don't know why 187 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: it's not happening, and then you throw it into Isabella. 188 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: So he's got to improve. And people are gonna say, 189 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: why don't they take more shots down the field? Listen 190 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: on the deep balls this year they've attempted fourteen. Three 191 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: of those got zero yards. Okay, besides Isabella, you're throwing 192 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: Edmunds and Christian Kirk and Hopkins. They haven't really been 193 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: able to extend the deep balls. So the intervener should 194 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: be your bread and butter. When it comes to the 195 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Look at the really good quarterbacks. They make 196 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: those throws in their sleeps, So that has to improve. 197 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: If this teams want to get you know, quote ruth 198 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: them on offense and get into sinc Well, if you're 199 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: completing a lot of those intermediate routes, if you've got 200 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: a good ground game, then all of a sudden, that 201 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: sucks the safety and the secondary closer to the line 202 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and then that perhaps we'll open up some 203 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: of these deep shots. This is not a throw deep 204 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of an offense. This is not Bruce Arians where 205 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: we've got six home runs, if you will, that we 206 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: hope to utilize each and every week. It is establishing 207 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the run, getting Kyler Murray into a rhythm, as you 208 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: pointed out, and then see if you can catch the 209 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: defense off guard and connect with an Isabella or a 210 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk or maybe even a DeAndre Hopkins over the top, 211 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: and then kind of surprise the defense, if you will. 212 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: All right, what's your thoughts? The speculation is DeAndre Hopkins. Clearly, 213 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: you and I have watched every single play. They weren't 214 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: covering them in the first week, two weeks. What do 215 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: you want him to do? But when it comes to 216 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: helping them win, the percentage isn't as high as I thought. Now, 217 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: that's analytics and that's more fantasy. But do you think 218 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: he's become too much of a focal point or is 219 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: it a case where he is one of the top 220 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: three receivers in football. Clearly he's not a speed guy, 221 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: so it's not like you're taking shots, but he's a 222 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: guy that yards after. What are your thoughts, Well, if 223 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: it's the case of the first two weeks where the 224 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: defense was playing off and almost ignoring number ten, then 225 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: absolutely I would throw his way every single time and 226 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: then make him be the playmaker and have defenders miss, 227 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: which he's very good at. Now, if it bogs down 228 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: like it did in Carolina and you're getting wrapped up immediately, 229 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: then you have to spread it around because all of 230 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, he becomes the focal point of the defense. 231 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: And if the defense is going to take away DeAndre 232 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Hopkins away, which they should, that should be the focal point. 233 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: Then it should open up for a Larry Fitzgerald or 234 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: a Christian Kirk or an Andy Isabella. So I don't 235 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: know if it was so much that Murray was relying 236 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: on Hopkins. They don't have a lot of history. In fact, 237 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: they have zero history, notwithstanding the weekend that they spent 238 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: or a couple of days they spent in Dallas together. 239 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: So I just think when the defense and when Murray 240 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: breaks the huddle and sees the defense not even paying 241 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: attention to Hopkins, but just throw it his way and 242 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: keep doing it until it no longer becomes effective. Problems 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: was when you force it. I think in Carolina they 244 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: tended to force it to DeAndre Hopkins, and that is 245 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: what you can't have happen. And that's a great observation 246 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: because that's when they're throwing the ball behind the line 247 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It worked in the first two and a 248 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: half weeks. The last game, teams they have two players 249 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: over there. You know, normally he gets a block down 250 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: I use the word slippery, tiptoes down the sidelines. That 251 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: four yard extended run play becomes an eight or nine. 252 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: But in that last game, it's on film and it 253 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: really happened in the second half a little bit in 254 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: Alliance game. So again, I agree with you, but I 255 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: think spreading the ball around what will actually open things 256 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: up for Hopkins in the future. And I think sometimes 257 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: we get a little bit too concerned about targets. And yes, 258 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: we've chronicled here on this show that Larry Fitzgerald needs 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to be targeted just because of the energy that he 260 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: vibes to his teammates and to the entire stadium really, 261 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: and then there are certain points of the ball game, 262 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: third down, fourth down, while you look for number eleven 263 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: because he knows he's going to catch the ball. But 264 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: if he only has two catches for an entire game, 265 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and their big time catches, their important catches, then that's fine. 266 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: It's all about and this is something that kind of 267 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: gets overlooked. When you're winning, no one really cares. It's 268 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: when you're losing, and that's when people start nitpicking the 269 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: stats and figuring out, well, why is this guy not 270 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: getting the ball there? This guy was open? You know, 271 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean, it's easy for us in the 272 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: media and for fans to look at a game, watch 273 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: the game and say, oh, this guy was open. That 274 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: guy was open. And yet when you're Kyler, Murray or 275 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: whomever in that pocket, what are you seeing, what different movements, 276 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: what different hands and arms are you seeing in that pocket? 277 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: And then certain players are designed to go to a 278 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: certain direction and to a certain layer or a certain spot, 279 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: so all very subjective. When you come to play calling, 280 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: it's the decision making that. I think Kyler Murray that 281 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: we all were told had improved, and I think at 282 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: certain points we're seeing it, just not consistently. Yeah, the 283 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: headline should the NFL be concerned or in this case, 284 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: should the Cardinals be concerned with their offense? And it 285 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: grabbed my attention and I'm always willing to learn, and 286 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: maybe there's something in there I didn't notice because we're 287 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: all looking at the same thing. We don't know. There's 288 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: the coaches film, but it doesn't come out till Tuesday, 289 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: so I try to watch the shortcut. But I mean 290 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: the considering they added Hopkins and they got pretty much 291 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: the same roster and then you know a Kendian Drake 292 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: that had an entire offseason, you would think they'd be 293 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: further in the process. That's I use the word puzzling, perplexing, 294 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: and maybe it's time. I mean, I'm really curious to 295 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: see how this team comes out, just based on what's 296 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: happening in the last couple of weeks. Well, if they 297 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: come out like they did in Carolina, then the game 298 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: is going to be over with. And that's you can't 299 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: come out slow, even if it's a Jets team that 300 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: has been struggling because, as we talked about it, they're hungry, 301 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: they're desperate, and a desperate team can be a dangerous team, 302 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: especially if they get hot early or they start hanging 303 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: around and it's a low scoring game and they only 304 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: need a field goal late. So how this game starts, 305 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: which is a contradiction to everything else, because as they say, 306 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: it's not how you start, it's how you finish. For 307 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: me this week, it is how this team starts. Well, 308 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean they did start off fine. I mean, I 309 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: know we're talking about it at work. Nine year pickup, 310 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: first down, he missed Larry Fisher. According to Connon, that 311 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: was a forty year pickup. Second possession, he's forcing the 312 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 1: ball to Kirk. He missed three guys underneath. I mean, yeah, defensively, 313 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: they're on the field of ton. I mean it was 314 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: they were down fourteen nothing, so you could say that 315 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: they started off slow. But to start the game, I 316 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: mean they had looked and I know a lot of 317 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: people aren't bigger the momentum Larry catches that ball, there's momentum. 318 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: They moved the chains. Whether he tries to force it 319 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: to Kirk, and I don't begrudge him That's that's it. 320 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: That's what a deep shot is. I mean, you're taking 321 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: a shot. But they had some momentum and unfortunately that 322 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: would have helped the defense, but as the game went on, 323 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: they didn't match the intensity. I agree with that. So 324 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: you've got your three keys, run defense, make Joe Flacco 325 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: one dimensional, and Kyler Murray with the intermediate passing game, 326 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: get him in a little bit of a rhythm. Something 327 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: that general managers Steve con brought up this morning when 328 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: he was on with Doug and Wolf on ninety eight 329 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: seven FM Arizona Sports Station. Before we get to your 330 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: X factor here, MJ, I want to remind the Bird 331 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Gang to update to the latest version of the Cardinals 332 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: mobile app today. The update features and all new redesign 333 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: homescreen experience. 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So I recommend that 343 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: one stop shopping, so to speak. And I know everyone 344 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: can't watch the game and be around the TV, but 345 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: if you want to be informed, and as Craig pointed out, 346 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: really one stop shopping with the Cardinals new, improved and 347 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: refreshed app So there's ways you could follow along and 348 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: you get all the podcasts down there, across the forum 349 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: and across the Hardenal's website. All right, I'm j your 350 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: X factor, someone or something that we should all be 351 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: paying attention to this Sunday. Well, I think it started 352 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: maybe last Sunday and our postgame show. When you look 353 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: at Patrick Peterson, Yes, he did have the interception, but 354 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: he's given up some space and whether they're playing a 355 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: shell zone or man to man, he's got to be better. 356 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: I would think that, you know, he's feeling the same 357 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: way we talked about, you know, him having a chip 358 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: and a bowlder on her shoulder while we need to 359 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: see it. Chandler Jones has been contained, not the first 360 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: time in his career, being in double teamed and chipped. 361 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: They're trying to move him around. You take a look 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: at you know, DJ Humphreys, he's a guy that got extended, 363 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: I was able to stay healthy. He's got to play better. 364 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: I thought both of the tackles couldn't protect the edges. 365 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: And then it's not just guys that are making the 366 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: most money on the roster. I think when you look 367 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: at Kenyan Drake and Larry Fitzgerald, they just haven't had 368 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: the opportunit unities. I mean that's how I feel. So, Um, 369 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is they're they're money players, they're 370 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: five star players. They got to play better. And Steve 371 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that on ninety eight seven. I think we've been 372 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: talking about it for at least a week. I know 373 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: he brought it up on the postgame show. So in 374 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: Kylin Murray, he's got to play better. He's not making 375 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, he's not in the top five on salaries. Um, 376 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: they got to get more from you know, some of 377 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 1: their second and third year players. Byron Murphy's got to 378 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: play better. You know. Unfortunately Canar's not out there, so 379 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: that other guy's got to step up. So it's just 380 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: not there. They're they're five star players, but you know 381 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: they're money players. That's what they're paid to do, and 382 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: then you need some other guys to fill in those rules. 383 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Here's the exact quote from general manager Steve Come this 384 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: morning with Doug and Wolf and then I want to 385 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: talk more about it because I found it very interesting. 386 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: It's a lengthy quote, bird Gang, but stay with us 387 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: here because I want to make sure the entire comment 388 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: is out there and not kind of picked in part 389 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: and then just kind of cut and then taken out 390 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: of context. But Come was asked about how he felt 391 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: the confidence. Did he still feel confident and his team, 392 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: and he said he did. He believes in his roster, 393 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: he believes in his players, and then he said this quote, 394 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: to be quite frank with you, We've got a lot 395 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: of guys making a lot of money, and that's how 396 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: you build the roster. You have to allocate the money 397 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: in particular spots. And when you see players who are 398 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: making an exorbitant amount of money, those players have got 399 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: to be productive. And my opinion, our stars have not 400 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: played like stars. End quote did not specify any names, MJ. 401 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: But it's very easy a Google search. You look for 402 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: the top money makers. Who is making the most money 403 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: on the team, talking about seven figures, eight figure salaries, 404 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: and it's simple. It's not easy to figure out who 405 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: is calling out without calling out their names specifically. Well, 406 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: he didn't mention two names. Well, he was asked about 407 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: both Patrick Peterson and Chandler Jones, but in that specific 408 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: quote he didn't bring them up. But the follow ups were, Yes, 409 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: two of the players that we were just talking about, 410 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: your big money players that have to play well for 411 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 1: the defense to play well and for your team to 412 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: play well, just haven't been greats or up to expectation. 413 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: With regard to Peterson quote, this is gentle manager, Steve Khan. 414 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: He's got to play better. We have high expectations for Pat. 415 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Then he added that Peterson has the same high expectations 416 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: for himself. And then with Chandler Jones, it's just the opportunities. 417 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: There were three or four times in which he was 418 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 1: this close. If they've got my two fingers together on 419 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: sacking Teddy Bridgewater. But you just gotta be a little 420 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: bit quicker, get off that block, get away from that 421 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: left tackle, the right tackle, and make your mark, make 422 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: your presence felt on that football field. Yeah, and some 423 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: people may look at this, so like, well, how's the 424 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: locker room going to react to it? What I would say, go, 425 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: look in the mirror. How much have you done? Now 426 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I can make the case a couple of guys just 427 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: haven't had the opportunities, but they're going to be lumped 428 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: in there based on their salaries. But look in the mirror. 429 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Can everyone say they've played a full four quarters or 430 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: four quality games? I think I think we can count 431 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: on one finger, and those guys probably haven't played every 432 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: snap besides Buddha. So yeah, I mean, listen, this is 433 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: a business based on production. If you don't like it, 434 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: go out there and prove the GM wrong. So I 435 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: got no issue, And I'm sure when he looks at 436 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: the staff, they got to do a better job. And 437 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that this is nothing that Come hasn't said 438 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: to his team, to his staff internally, because it's one 439 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: thing to make these comments public without bringing it out 440 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: during the course of the week or during the course 441 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: of the season, and all of a sudden this takes 442 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: players by surprise, My guests without knowing anything is that 443 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: these conversations have taken place, because you certainly don't want 444 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: something out there that's making a headline. I mean these quotes, 445 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: this quote MJ is all over the place locally and 446 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: nationally because right now the Cardinals people were wondering two 447 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: and two, losing two in a row, what's going on? Yeah? 448 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: And clicking. What would discussed earlier is what's wrong with 449 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: the offense? Should it be concerned? Yeah? I mean the 450 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: thing is though usually when Bruce Arians not usually when 451 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians was here, he would talk to us and 452 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: then we would go in the locker room on a 453 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Monday and he would walk through the Cafeterian 454 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: said I just ripped it to the media and he 455 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: thought it was funny, and these guys are like, okay, 456 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: So we would go into locker room. After his press conferences, 457 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Bruce has set up with this about you. Now, Kim 458 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: is the GM. He you know, he doesn't have press 459 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: conferences four days a week. He can walk down the 460 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: hall after practice, come up to my office. He's not 461 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: going to share those conversations, but I assume he's had 462 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: conversations with players that he's expected more from and that 463 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: as a player, you could respect that a man to 464 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: man eye conversation telling you where you are and how 465 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: does that translate to what you're going to do in 466 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: the future. So, and I'm sure when they meet as 467 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: his staff, he has conversations with Kingsbury. We need to 468 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: be better across the board. And I like what you said. 469 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: If you're upset with what your boss, and let's be honest, 470 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 1: that's who Kime is. If you're upset with what your 471 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: boss has to say, the onus is on you to 472 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: prove him wrong because at the end of the day, 473 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 1: you can be replaced very easily. Now, when you're talking 474 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: about professional sports and the money and all the different 475 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: roster moves and the rules, it becomes a little bit 476 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: more difficult. But I think you can understand what I'm 477 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: saying is like there is always someone that is ready 478 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: to take your place. No one plays forever again. Eventually 479 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald will call it quits. But you have to 480 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: be able to show up and show out on Sundays, 481 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: and right now, I just don't think a lot of 482 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: players are consistently during the course of a game on 483 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: a Sunday. Since Kim has been doing his Friday Hit 484 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: on ninety eight seven with Doug and Olf at seven 485 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: forty five, he's been consistent. He likes his team, he 486 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: likes the leadership. He's disappointed like everyone else, how this 487 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: team has played one thing to go out there and 488 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: get beat. I mean, it's going to happen in the NFL, 489 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: there's parody. Look what's happening right now. It's scoring and 490 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals seem to score more than thirty points. He 491 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: likes his team, but based on what they did in 492 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: the offseason, he thinks they should be playing better football, 493 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,239 Speaker 1: whether that's four no or not. Three and one and 494 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: one son's a lot better than two and two. So 495 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: he believes in his team. And when you believe in something, 496 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: it's probably for you as a parent, you believe in 497 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: something as for your kids, and you're thinking, all right, 498 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: this could be a lot better, you know, put the 499 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: time in. So maybe it's a bad analogy, but I'm 500 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: just saying he believes in this team, and he has 501 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: a right to voice his opinion because you know, people, 502 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: we don't see what happens behind closed doors. Well, and 503 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: it's we see what we see on Sundays on television 504 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: or when there are games played in front of fans 505 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: at Stay Farm Stadium. Everyone is disappointed, and I think 506 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: it's good for the fan base to hear and to 507 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: see that disappointment from the guys who make this roster, 508 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: whether that's a general manager or ownership. Everyone is disappointed 509 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: and two and two is not acceptable based on how 510 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: this team started at two and oh. Bird Gang subscribed 511 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: to Arizona Cardinals pot cast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google podcast, Stitcher, 512 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows on the go 513 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, and of course 514 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: this show Cardinals Cover two. Visit asy Cardinals dot com 515 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: Slash podcasts for more. A couple of quick notes here 516 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: with respects to the team and one. We've keep bringing 517 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: them up, but we actually did finally hear from Buddha 518 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: Baker with regards to how he is feeling. This will 519 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: be his first game post rite thumb surgery. He will 520 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: be wearing a cast, but his fingers will be accessible, 521 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: meaning they will not be cast. They will be able 522 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: to be used to either wrap up or tackle. He 523 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: did admit MJ that it is going to be restrictive, 524 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: but he did get used to it against the Lions 525 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: and he was a beast all over the field. So 526 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: maybe you don't get both hands on the ball. Maybe 527 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: it's just one hand. But the good news is is 528 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: he will be on the football field and that will 529 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: certainly correct we hope a lot of the mistakes that 530 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: we've seen, especially last week and Carol lot. Yeah, that 531 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: was one thing I noticed when I was able to 532 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: take that picture on Wednesday. He had that thumb castle 533 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: on his thumb, but his four fingers are out and 534 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: I thought that was important. So you know, he's always 535 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: does a good job wrapping up. And you know, I 536 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: asked him about the tackling and he says, you know, 537 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: guys weren't wrapping up. Guys were just shying to lay 538 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: out their shoulder and that's not football. It's technique. Head up, 539 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: wrap up, tackle, bring to the ground. So obviously Hilly 540 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: by example and if you're not doing your job, he's 541 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: a guy that will say, hey, pick it up. You know, 542 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: it's not personal, pick it up. He need you. So 543 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: I think that will improve. But I'm glad because I 544 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: think it would have been difficult for him to play 545 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: with one hand with the club. And that's when you 546 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: started talking about fingers. The thumb they can it's a 547 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: small cast and it comes down right to where his 548 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: fingers come out, so his fingers can extend, and that's 549 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: going to help him obviously making tap trying to get 550 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: his hand on some footballs. Yeah, he wasn't sure how 551 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: long he'd have to wear the cast, and then once 552 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: the casters removed, he'll be in a splint again how 553 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: long who knows, But as long as Baker's on the field, 554 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: Hey him at less than one hundred percent, and even 555 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: with the cast on the thumb. Okay, maybe he's ninety 556 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: five percent, if you will, he's still better than about 557 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the players that play his position. Well, 558 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: you said if they had fifty three Buddha Bakers, his 559 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: team wouldn't have to worry about coming out flat and tackling. 560 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: I think, just to guess, I think, as as long 561 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: as there's no setbacks, and obviously they're protecting him with 562 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: the cast, I think the cast will get smaller on 563 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: the thumb. But again, there's no hurry. They got the 564 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: bye week coming up. But I do think if there's anything, 565 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: and he did say he's gonna have to wear splint 566 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: probably the remainder of the season, so that supports it 567 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: paraphrasing at some point here where splint and that's where 568 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna hump thum. Thumb will heal and he'll be 569 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: able to move it around a little bit. So good 570 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: news for him. And anytime you don't have any lower 571 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: extremary injuries shoulder, you know, obviously concussions, this is a 572 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: good way for him to get back on the field. 573 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: One other player that we could see on the field 574 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: sooner rather than later, and this is something that is 575 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: not yet official, but Kim did acknowledge that they have 576 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: talked to Prince Amukamara, the local products out of Glendale Apollo, 577 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: someone that Ki mentioned MJ that they had talked about 578 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: in the spring. Yet Prince wasn't sure what his plans 579 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: were and they went in another direction. And now all 580 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you might see the hometown kid play 581 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: for his hometown team, much like a Devon Kinnard, a 582 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: Brett Huntley, a Christian Kirk, a DJ Foster. Who am 583 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: I missing? Oh yeah, Byron Murphy. I mean the Arizona 584 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals love these local kids who were outstanding in high 585 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: school and now playing ranks. Yeah. I liked him coming 586 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: out of high school from Apollo High School. I um, 587 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: he's bounced around. He considered maybe taking a year off 588 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: or considering what his future is going to be. And 589 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: then he was in Oakland, excuse me, las Vegas and 590 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: then they released him and you know, obviously he's a body. 591 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: You know depth wise, you're adding experience. I mean, Seattle 592 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: went out and signed Shacks Harrison. I'm like, wow, how 593 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: are these guys that fall off the cliff? But you 594 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: know you're getting an opportunity. So you know, you got 595 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: t J. Warden and because of COVID, you know we'll 596 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: have to wait and see because it's not official, but 597 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: he was asked about it. Um. Yeah, you can never 598 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: have enough depth, you know clearly. You know, guys like 599 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson and Charles Washington are more special teams players, 600 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: but if they got to play, they got to play. 601 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Losing Jones didn't help. And then you look at um, 602 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: Chase Whittaker. He's a slot guy, so be curious. But 603 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: Prince does bring experience, the local guy, so probably a 604 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: feel good story. Quoting Time liked what we saw on 605 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: tape with respect to Prince, Muka Marris. We will follow 606 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: that story along and perhaps it does become official next 607 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: week to add some depth and then we can get 608 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: more into what it perhaps means for the rest of 609 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: the roster. All right, before we get out of here. 610 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: Miche meniche Meta, who covers the New York Daily News 611 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 1: or the Yeah, I think it's the Daily News, could 612 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: be the Post. But apologize to him, but he was 613 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 1: saying when Adam Gaze was a wide receivers coach in Denver, 614 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall went to indian went to Indianapolis, and he 615 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: had twenty one catches in the game. And he's predicted 616 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Hopkins could break that record of the most 617 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: catches in a single game. And I don't know if 618 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: he was being facetious, but he thinks Hopkins is gonna 619 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: get targeted over twenty times in this game because one 620 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: of the corners they went out. Who You're gonna tell 621 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: me how many interceptions he has. He's bounced around five 622 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,800 Speaker 1: or six teams. They think he's their best corner and 623 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: he's not. I mean, yeah, he may have some interceptions, 624 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: but teams are targeting him weekend and weekend. Well, maybe 625 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: that's why he has the three interceptions to lead the NFL. 626 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: You're talking about Pierre Desire, who is on his fifth 627 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: different team, the former fourth round draft pick at the 628 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns back in twenty fourteen. He certainly has a 629 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of opportunities to get interceptions because he does have 630 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: three and one of those was a pick six. So 631 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: if he gets targeted, or if he's the guy on 632 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, who knows in Week one Hopkins was targeted 633 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: sixteen times, so you're talking about at least four more targets, 634 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,479 Speaker 1: or if the record is twenty eight, you're talking about 635 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: twelve more targets at least for DeAndre Hopkins. I would 636 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: I would certainly find that hard to believe. Yeah, and 637 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: he got that, uh pick six off it was against 638 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: the Broncos. I think it was Rippin was in there, MJ. 639 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: It's I was feeling a lot better about the previous 640 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: two weekends. I still feel pretty good about this weekend. 641 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that now is at 642 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 1: the point where I need to see as opposed to 643 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: just the hearing of players and coaches saying what is 644 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: going to happen? Because now it's all about delivering on 645 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: game day. So let's bott and line it. It's about results. 646 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,919 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, to see 647 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: this team catch, not lightning in a bottle, consistency across 648 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: the board, and play a good football game regardless of 649 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: you're playing, and build off it because we know it's 650 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: going to get difficult. So the bottom line is results. Yeah, 651 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to who your opponent is or what 652 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: they've done. Just make sure you're out there executing, eliminating 653 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,360 Speaker 1: mistakes and coming away with execution, and then all of 654 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: a sudden we can talk about a victory Monday here 655 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two. All right, m JA. We will 656 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: talk again on Sunday, of course from State Farm Stadium, 657 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: where everything is kind of headquartered during this unusual twenty 658 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: twenty Cardinals though on the road at MetLife Stadium. Ten 659 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: am is the kickoff five thirty am. Pregame coverage begins 660 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. We will talk to 661 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: the Bird gang on Sunday and of course on Monday 662 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: as well here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Honday, 663 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: Partner of the Arizona Cardinals Special Thanks as always to 664 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Mama Hundre or Mike Jarecki. I'm 665 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: Craig Riel Loup. We'll talk to you next week here 666 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two,