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Speaker 1: In the nine eighties and nineties. John McAfee was a

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Speaker 1: Silicon Valley icon. Well great, um, we were supposed to

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Speaker 1: have a meeting at eight this morning. Again, he said yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I was hungover. His name was synonymous with computer

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Speaker 1: anti virus software, so I said, would you mind if

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Speaker 1: I came over to the lab and spent some time

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Speaker 1: with you there to try to understand the technology better.

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Speaker 1: And it took me all of fifteen minutes in the

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Speaker 1: R and D lab to realize he was brilliant. He

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Speaker 1: helped invent the modern cybersecurity industry, and it made him

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Speaker 1: fabulously wealthy. When we were together, women would just like

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Speaker 1: falling his spell and sleep with him or go away

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Speaker 1: with him. It's just amazing. But after he sold his

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Speaker 1: company and bosked in his riches, things took a dark

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Speaker 1: turn and he just slowly, like a spider throwing a

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Speaker 1: web around its cry. It just becomes this, this galloping

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Speaker 1: circus of stupidity that he finds so cute. A man

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Speaker 1: is dead. I will not allow them to imprison me

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Speaker 1: and shut my voice down. I'm your host, Jamie Tara Bay.

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Speaker 1: I cover cybersecurity for Bloomberg News. I've been a foreign

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Speaker 1: correspondent for over twenty years. Throughout my career, I've reported

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Speaker 1: on powerful people with God complexes, people who didn't believe

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Speaker 1: they had to be held accountable for their actions, people

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Speaker 1: who may have gotten away with murder. They want to

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Speaker 1: silence me. I will not allow that. This season on

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Speaker 1: Foundering will retrace the life of John McAfee, from his

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Speaker 1: rise in Silicon Valley to his chaotic journey through Central America,

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Speaker 1: and how his choices led him down the path towards

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Speaker 1: a public and decades long self destruction. When I heard

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Speaker 1: that he was arrested in Spain, I knew that he

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Speaker 1: had been with them, and Uh, these are very powerful man.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get too far into it, just

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Speaker 1: to protect myself. Foundering a podcast from Bloomberg Technology. Listen

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.