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Speaker 1: Best friends know more this Saturday Night UFC two seven

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Speaker 1: to two. Not you and Me, Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat, but it's going to be a welterweight grudge

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Speaker 1: pay per view duel this weekend when Hori Masvital and

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Speaker 1: Colby Covington meet finally inside that octagon five rounds.

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Speaker 2: But for us here at the table, it's a little

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Speaker 1: Morning Combat resume review style hit me up right now,

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Speaker 1: just days out, looking back at the very interesting and

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Speaker 1: quick path it took Colby Covington to adopt a wild

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Speaker 1: persona and become one of the best fighters in the world.

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Speaker 2: Will He's had some up and down since then. He

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Speaker 2: might have beat Kamara Whisman on the rematch for the title, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, depending on who was watching that. But that's what

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Speaker 1: we do, Luke Thomas, Brian Campbell. We break things down

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Speaker 1: in depth. Buckle up. We're about to go the distance

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Speaker 1: on how Colby Covington got.

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Speaker 2: Here and what we have learned along the way.

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas might might educate our opinion on how Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night Fight plays out.

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Speaker 3: We love doing his resume review in part because there

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Speaker 3: is no curse, which is finally glad to be done

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Speaker 3: with that nonsense.

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Speaker 2: But one who killed the curse was it Canelo? Was

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Speaker 3: I think Canelo gave it the body shot and then

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Speaker 3: in all seriousness, BC and I were talking about this

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Speaker 3: before we shot it today. You really get a sense

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Speaker 3: of who a fighter is when we do these exercises.

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Speaker 3: When we go through in Colby comingon, you can see

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Speaker 3: the very spots where he begins to turn and become

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Speaker 3: small note here. I've talked about this before. I think

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Speaker 3: He doesn't have the longest resume in that sense, but

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Speaker 3: he does have a hugely.

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Speaker 1: Impactful one, and it went from who is this guy?

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Speaker 1: To wow, maybe he'll be something to one day too.

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Speaker 1: He is defeating all of the famous welterweights one after

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Speaker 1: another until he finally began that rivalry with Kamara Usman,

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Speaker 1: which could be closed, could be still open. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to see what the future brings. But who is Kolbe

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Speaker 1: Covington the Chaos one? Of course, please like and subscribe

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Speaker 1: the video. We do some pretty awesome things every morning combat.

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Speaker 1: This is a special in depth look though at Chaos

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Speaker 1: thirty four years old right now. Luke but the Clovis,

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Speaker 1: California native before turning to mixed martial arts, a decorated

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Speaker 1: amateur wrestler who do people talk about enough, had a

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Speaker 1: lot of trouble outside the wrestling mat, which stunted some

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Speaker 1: of his initial college opportunities. We know he did community

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Speaker 1: We know eventually made it to Oregon State and was

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Speaker 1: a two time All American. But you go back and

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Speaker 1: read the up and down Kolbe was causing chaos outside

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Speaker 1: the mats back then. In d Why's assaults, He's always

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a handful of He's.

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Speaker 3: Always been a little bit of a handful, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: Daniel Cormier revealed that they tried to recruit him out

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Speaker 3: but it should be noted that he has turned whatever

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Speaker 3: those indiscretions were into a more focused approach at self promotion.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you can like him or you can

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Speaker 3: at this point. But it worked. It worked. He turned

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Speaker 3: And it's still quite negative energy, but at least he's

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Speaker 3: not having to sit in front of judges. He's actually

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Speaker 2: He's leaning heavily into it.

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Speaker 1: And as we look at how he got here as

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Speaker 1: debut twenty fourteen, excuse me, Luke He's not a finished

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would say that. I think when you

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Speaker 3: He's got good wrestling against the fence, He's got good

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Speaker 3: That scramble folk wrestling style has served him so well.

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Speaker 3: There are times we'll talk about it. Don Yung Kim

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Speaker 3: can't do anything with it because he can move, move, move.

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Speaker 3: So he had a lot of the things you would need.

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Speaker 3: But what the tape will show is that he developed

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Speaker 3: them accordingly in such ways that now they are just

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Speaker 1: So he's got a name coming into his UFA debut

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, and his UFC debut is August of twenty

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Speaker 1: fourteen in Macau. It's the Michael Bisbee Kung Lee fight

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Speaker 1: Night card buried on those prelims Loop, I want to

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Speaker 2: Who he fought Wong On Ying.

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Speaker 3: On Ying is how I mean? Again, I don't, I

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Speaker 1: They call him Smiley juan ya A Ying made it

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Speaker 1: being in the Tough China series, Yes, as well as

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Speaker 1: Sambo Specialist. But what's interesting on the Walk to the

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Speaker 1: Cage Kenny Flouran on the on the commentary, I really

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Speaker 1: like Colby's attitude.

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Speaker 2: Humble and hard working.

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Speaker 1: While that's not incorrect, and a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: tell you before that persona and character came the real Kolby,

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Speaker 3: The only thing I'll add to that is you're right,

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen Kobe Covington's debut, Luk, it almost

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Speaker 1: there is a long feel out process which is much

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Speaker 1: Maya against Ourda, where it's sort of I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: Lots of fainting.

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Speaker 1: But once he takes a ying down, not only is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you would see more of this in a much

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Speaker 3: probably for Coolby to take this fight. Now, maybe he

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Speaker 3: You got to travel to Macaw, China to do it,

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Speaker 1: You want to talk early now, how important was the

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Speaker 2: Here's what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: His striking this early is not a strength but he

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Speaker 3: Dude. This guy he was a two time All American,

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Speaker 3: two times. It's very difficult to do. Dude. This guy

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Speaker 3: knows he's stronger than most people. He knows he's faster

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Speaker 2: I would say we turned the calendar.

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Speaker 1: In twenty sixteen and his second fight for Colby in

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Speaker 1: the UFC, As you mentioned, Luke stays busy in Brazil.

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Speaker 1: Third round renaked choke submission of Wagner Silva but it's

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Speaker 1: a new level in Mike Pyle. It's May of twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Cormier and Rumble Johnson. But Pyle Luke, despite being aged

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Speaker 1: Tim Means and Matt Brown.

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Speaker 2: Just the size, the striking ability.

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Speaker 1: This is the first fight where you're gonna say, okay, Colby,

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Speaker 1: through two fights, I know what his strengths are.

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Speaker 3: Can we see some other adaptations this? This was a

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Speaker 3: great and a real first challenge for Colby. Mike Pile's

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Speaker 3: inundicated black belt, good solid takedown defence along the fence line.

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Speaker 2: The pile one was a big step forward, but Luke.

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Speaker 1: This one boy got away from Boy did it not

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Speaker 2: Eighty six seconds was all Alvis would need? What went

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Speaker 3: Kolby just leaves his head on a platform. He just

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Speaker 3: It was perfect in all for arming guillotines, which you're

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Speaker 3: Colby had nowhere to go. It was a bad positioning thing.

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Speaker 3: Colby's defense even since then, has obviously gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 3: can't say he's a better welterweight than him. He was

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Speaker 3: on this night, but not in general. But the point

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Speaker 1: Would turn out to be Worley Elvis's mountaintop moment going

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Speaker 2: Do you give him any credit for his attempt?

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Speaker 3: Could be I'm not sure we could be. You can

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Speaker 3: But best practices are typically typically going to be the

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Speaker 1: We had a scene now how Coolby would react to

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Speaker 3: Let me say one note here on this fight real quick.

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Speaker 1: And I'd love to know because we're not full pro

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Speaker 1: We're not pro wrestling heel version of Colby yet. We're

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, is he a pro wrestling fan too?

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Speaker 1: He is, and we are already establishing that even in his

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Speaker 3: I also want to say, like, it does seem to me,

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Speaker 1: Kobe would bounce back from the loss for instantly. As

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Speaker 2: Manure over three rounds.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Munier Manure would be a little bit It would

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Speaker 1: Mune my French brethren.

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Speaker 2: It was in Ottawa.

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Speaker 1: But Luke, the next fight, he's facing a UFC debuting

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Speaker 2: He does start to stick the tongue out first time. Yes,

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Speaker 1: First round Colby eats a couple of right hands. Luke,

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Speaker 2: The offense to set up the takedown in which he

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I think so we look at let's talk

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Speaker 3: turning point fight for two reasons. One, you're right, I

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Speaker 3: at times. This fight had torrential ground and pound. I mean,

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Speaker 3: to this crowd. But eventually, dude Colby just does what

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Speaker 3: he does to everybody, and once he breaks well and

436
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Speaker 3: guys are no longer that first order resistance. His second

437
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Speaker 3: and third order is much better than everyone else's second

438
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Speaker 3: and third order. It's just so much more up to it.

439
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 3: And dude, he beat up Max Griffin and when he

440
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Speaker 3: gets off of him in the third round, he shows

441
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Speaker 3: the tongue and Max Griffin's bleeding everywhere. He's raising his

442
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: arms and looking around like Russell Crowe and gladiated it.

443
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Speaker 1: So this is the fight that is the turning point

444
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Speaker 1: on the persona and character.

445
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Speaker 2: It might be on the fighting style too.

446
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Speaker 1: Luke, because we haven't seen them fully weaponized cardio yet

447
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,520
Speaker 1: but yet in round two here, when he's starting to

448
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 1: begin the bludgeoning of Max Griffin on the ground, I mean,

449
00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 1: Griffin looks like he's in full chaos mode. You know,

450
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Speaker 1: he looks like he doesn't know how to get out

451
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Speaker 1: of that ye and then Colpin full mount and round

452
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Speaker 1: two and.

453
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Speaker 2: He's bloody as hell.

454
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Speaker 1: It seemed inevitable that we were going to get a

455
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Speaker 1: stoppage eventually, and Colby would get that in round three,

456
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Speaker 1: and it was a systematic takedown hang on the leg

457
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Speaker 1: set up for the choke.

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Speaker 3: Also takedowns against the fence, takedowns in open space here too,

459
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Speaker 3: single leg right, so we're not too far removed from

460
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Speaker 3: the Vorlaves loss. You don't want to avoid the fence,

461
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Speaker 3: but maybe mixing things up and having single leg run

462
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Speaker 3: the pipe takedowns and then you know, obviously positionally advancing

463
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Speaker 3: on him. Those were I'm not gonna say new wrinkles,

464
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 3: but polished pieces of his game that he re implemented

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Speaker 3: against a better remone.

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Speaker 1: Think of the time of what this is. As we

467
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Speaker 1: go to the finish and the finish came, Max never

468
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 1: gives him. The next of the finish just comes with

469
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Speaker 1: with some aggressive ground pounds. So you're seeing the evolution here.

470
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Speaker 1: This is UFC two two in Las Vegas. This is

471
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Speaker 1: Connor versus Nate two twenty sixteen August and Luke, even

472
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Speaker 1: though this is still buried in the prelimbs. This was

473
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Speaker 1: the full on change in moment, not to Trump version

474
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Speaker 1: of Colby, but to coming in sticking out my tongue more.

475
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Speaker 1: Why don't I go full on heel? Because as he

476
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Speaker 1: gets the finish, Colby grabs the microphone first time being

477
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,199
Speaker 1: interviewed Luke in a postfight situation, and the crowd's booing

478
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Speaker 1: him as he begins to talk trash. It's his first

479
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: time staying with Joe Rogan as well, and the quote

480
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Speaker 1: is no one in this division can stay with my pace.

481
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Speaker 1: I'm going to get that belt sooner or later, mark

482
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Speaker 1: my words. And when they asked, when Joe asked him

483
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 1: about sort of the animosity that he's showing, he's saying, look,

484
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: Max was just talking a lot of crap, so I

485
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: had to let him know who is boss. So he's

486
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Speaker 1: got the crowd booing him, he's putting on that heel

487
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: persona is getting the Joe Rogan FaceTime.

488
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Speaker 2: You're right, this is that turning point moment where.

489
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Speaker 1: He's figured out because he's weaponizing his cardio. This was

490
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 1: probably the best his ground and pound has really looked

491
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: to use it to get a guy out of there.

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Speaker 3: He's coming on, Luke, this is the Harold Howard. This

493
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Speaker 3: is the beginning. If you're coming on, come on. This

494
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: is when he realizes what he can do in this division,

495
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Speaker 3: how he can do it, and what are the other

496
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 3: levers he needs to pull to maximize it.

497
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if this is the fight or

498
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Speaker 1: if the next one against Brian Barberina is. But when

499
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 1: Colby retells the story, when you can get him out

500
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Speaker 1: of persona, and he tells it the right way of

501
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: his transformation, Luke, doesn't he talk about, I've had one

502
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: fight left on my UFC deal and I was known

503
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Speaker 1: as a boring wrestler who had already lost and they

504
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 1: were probably going to fire me and let me go.

505
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,360
Speaker 1: And whether that's completely true or not, he's taking a bit.

506
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: You have to give him credit. He's taking what's given

507
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: to him, the level of matchmaking, and he's trying anything

508
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 1: he can to get noticed and get seen.

509
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: That's right. He's not fighting guys who have like dynamic

510
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: Twitter personalities per se, although Max Griffin's an interesting dude.

511
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 3: But what I mean is, you know this is not

512
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: Night Diaz, this is not Connor McGregor. He's not fighting

513
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 3: dudes with big names, so he has to find and

514
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 3: manufacture some kind of reason for people to tune in.

515
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 3: And by the way, some of his efforts stumble at times,

516
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: and we're not here to say that even though it worked,

517
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: it's good, right, like saying awful things about Brazilian people,

518
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: calling them filthy animals. These are not things I unnecessarily condone,

519
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: but they were certainly incontestably much more effective at generating

520
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: of his ability.

521
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Speaker 1: The next fight might seem lost in his transition here,

522
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: but it is important. It's December twenty sixteen in Sacramento.

523
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: It's Brian Barberina. They're still buried on the prelim.

524
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: I forgot about this fight.

525
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 1: But this is a UFC on Fox card with Page

526
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 1: Vans and against Michelle Waterson that had some hype as

527
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: at that point the UFC on Fox quarterly cards still

528
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Speaker 1: had it. And why this is important is not only

529
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: was this a fresh Brian Barbarina, he was twelve and

530
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Speaker 1: three overall. Luke one fight before had beaten Worley Elvis

531
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Speaker 1: by unanimous decision. So here's action star bigger than Colby

532
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: in this division, a guy you're not going to handle easily.

533
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: But Luke may be more important than all of this,

534
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: as he walks to the prep point first fight with

535
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Speaker 1: Jorge Masvidal, his att teammate directly in his corner, first

536
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: fight with Jorge Mosvedel striking coach Paulino Hernandez.

537
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 3: That's right, Actually it's in the well in the Griffin fight. Also,

538
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: they had said Paulino Hernandez is working his corner.

539
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: Okay, but now you've got Jorge and him like major presidence.

540
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: I did not see Mike Brown is the is the director?

541
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 3: Yes, I didn't see Jorge in the Griffin fight. It's

542
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 3: actually the one after the Barberina fight you're talking about

543
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: where you begin to see that like the influence. Paulino

544
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 3: Hernandez is the one that is at the center of

545
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: this controversy about whether or not he was paid by Colby,

546
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: But at this time, Jorge cornering him and Paulina, And if.

547
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: You want to know right away what that influence might

548
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 1: do Colby Comington opens the first round with a missed

549
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 1: jump spinning kick and then comes right back into a

550
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: high head kick that partially lands, So he's trying to

551
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: show that Yeah, I'm still going for the takedown. Yes,

552
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: I'm still using my offense to get me there, but

553
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: I now have to make the offense a threat as well,

554
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: because he would take Barberina down four times in succession.

555
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: Why Barberina is big and this was a good test

556
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: for Colby because while Barberina is takedown defense isn't the best,

557
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 1: He's tough and he's gonna get right back up.

558
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: Colby just freaking relentlessly.

559
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: Twelve of seventeen takedowns here. This is how they breakdown.

560
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: He got six of seven in the first, three of five,

561
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 3: in the second, three of five in the third. Dude,

562
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 3: these guys can't handle his wrestling career.

563
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: Once he tired Padarna, he began to strike on even

564
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: terms with Barberina. That's why I think this is another

565
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: important progression where Mike Goldberg even says that the conclusion

566
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: of this three round unanimous decision is the best performance

567
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: of Colby's career up to that point.

568
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, in terms of comprehensive offensive effort. Yes, yes,

569
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 3: in fact, it was.

570
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: Look, you're fighting Barberini, you're fighting Max Griffin.

571
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: It's still a certain level, Luke, I feel like we

572
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 1: jumped up to a next level of competition to start

573
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,479
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. It goes down in June in Singapore as

574
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: Colby continues to be a road warrior and Luke it's

575
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: the last career fight of at this point, thirty five year.

576
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Old Dong Young Kim is that right, who the stun gun?

577
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: Who is who?

578
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: He was seven and one in his last eight coming

579
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,679
Speaker 1: into this fight with the stoppage loss to Tyron Woodley

580
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: being the only one as he sort of you know

581
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be a title contender.

582
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 2: Can he get to that level?

583
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: And we all know he has a pretty killer resume

584
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 1: before that, wins and losses against very elite opponents. But

585
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: Kim's also got a four inch reach advantage, and this

586
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: is a new style for him to fight against a

587
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: Walterway who's bigger than him, who's got the judo and

588
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: standing clinch toughness and the ability to potentially do things

589
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: to him. I don't think any of us thought this

590
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 1: was going to be end up being the retirement fight

591
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: of Kim. But this was another big adaption step because

592
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: they mentioned early in round one that Att brought in

593
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: two hundred and five pound judokas for Colby to work

594
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: on ahead of this, and that Jorge was the main

595
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: sparring partner trying to mimic Kim.

596
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: So you're seeing that influence. What did you see in

597
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: this fight?

598
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, So this one was actually a bit of

599
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: a reset moment. I would argue for Colby, he's getting

600
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: better and better and better. But Don Jung Kim is

601
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 3: very good and being on Judoka, had the capacity for

602
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: his own takedowns, nullifying things in the clinch, right, So

603
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: you have to be very careful. So this fight got

604
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: a lot of booze in Singapore. I believe there's a

605
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: couple of ref separations along the way. But the point

606
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 3: I did learn though, was that Colby a would get

607
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: thrown a couple of times and still scramble back to

608
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: a dominant position.

609
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: He also blocked a lot of these Judo.

610
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: Blocked a ton of them.

611
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: Stuff him standing clinch physicality is that's right.

612
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: So in the Lawlor fight, which we'll get to, you'll

613
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: see him work this clinch position. Obviously, Lawler is not

614
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 3: Don Kunk Kim in the in the clinch or up

615
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: against the fence in the clinch or whatever. But the

616
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 3: point I'm trying to make is he used all the

617
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 3: things he had to be very defensive here. In fact,

618
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 3: he only threw and landed forty seven significant strikes, not

619
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: a ton for him, I think get over seventy for

620
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: example against Brian Barbarina. So he had to dial back

621
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: the offense, but he did realize Okay. Now, by the way,

622
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: dont hunk Kim like Worlealvez has submissions there. But he

623
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: kept himself in safe spaces while dominating from behind at

624
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 3: times getting enough of the takedowns they need to. He

625
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: got three out of six in the first round, two

626
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 3: out of five in the second round, and three out

627
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: of four in the third round. Just and again we

628
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: go back to we saw like broken records in overwhelming presence,

629
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 3: and this time you see no mistake. Maybe got a

630
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: couple times when he got tosked, but he didn't make mistakes.

631
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: Well, again, he's not formally utilizing his cardio as a weapon.

632
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: It's part of the overall thing that he's doing right

633
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: here because he's trying to improve his striking as I

634
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and in that second round, Luke, you would

635
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 1: see Covington rock Kim with an overhand left then hit

636
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: a running switch knee and had a high kick. So

637
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: there's a variety he was striking. Kim would block a

638
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: takedown early in the second round and then never stuff

639
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: another the rest of the way. But what is interesting

640
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: the end of the second round, as they were standing

641
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: and grappling, you got a judo trip from Kim that

642
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: goes down as the first takedown.

643
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 2: Against He couldn't do anything with couldn't anything.

644
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: This fight closes a three round unanimous decision, a good

645
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: counter striking from Colby to end it. But Kobe getting

646
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: booed and he screams this is my house as he

647
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: wipes third off of his shoulders and does the whole

648
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Cogan ear thing.

649
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: To the heel fans as he's being booed.

650
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Colby would then turn to Kim just just to give

651
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 1: him respect, bow to him, hog him after the decision.

652
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: But he's going after the crowd. There's no question about it.

653
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: The quote Luke, I'm the uncrowned king of this division, Dana,

654
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: I'm a size thirty two waist.

655
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: Get that belt for me.

656
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: He would do the discount double check, and he would

657
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: also say Luke, to be the best in the division,

658
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: I gotta beat him, so I want RDA and the

659
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Kim won look if we learned something from here, He's

660
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 1: titled ready, Kobe is title ready. He's ready to fight,

661
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: either for the title or the guys you have to

662
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: beat to get there.

663
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 3: That's right.

664
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 2: Took him up another level.

665
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: Don Jung Kim was very well respected at this time.

666
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: And you know his final quote in this my best

667
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: friend Jorge Mosital, thank you very much.

668
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's in the corner. You can hear Jorge being like,

669
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: switched to the double. If he gives it to you,

670
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 3: switch to the double, dude. He was on top of it,

671
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: giving that guy great advice in the corner.

672
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: So, Luke, let's launch directly if you're Colby Covington's career

673
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: arc into the title picture here. The Kim win was

674
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: June of twenty seventeen, So let's go to October of that.

675
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: Same year, and it's in Brazil.

676
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,719
Speaker 1: Luke, if I'm looking for a turning point of the

677
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: heel character of Colby Covington, and it would come against

678
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: the great Damian Maya.

679
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: Where is Maya at this point?

680
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: Three months removed Luke from losing his title opportunity against Damian,

681
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: against Tyron Woodley and really just getting stuffed at every turn.

682
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: But I say that to show you that this is

683
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: still its end of Korea Maaya, but it's the last

684
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: prime version of end of Koreamaya because his reinvention to

685
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: cut down to welterweight, to add striking in there.

686
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: But you know, really against Woodley, you saw what he's about.

687
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: And also for about five hundred takedowns and got none

688
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: of them.

689
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: Just before the Woodley fight, so that was a bad

690
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 3: loss for him. But remember Woodley didn't like beat Maya up.

691
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: He just stuffed everything. And I was at UFC two fourteen, right,

692
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: that was the Jones DC two card, if memory serves,

693
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: But before that, dude, he had beaten Jorge Masvidal, Carlos Conditt,

694
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 3: Matt Brown, Gunner, Nelson Neil, Magne, Ryan the Flair, and

695
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: Alexander Yrkovlev consecutive.

696
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: That's a reinvention.

697
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: He went consecutively, so it submitted and submitted Condit, Brown

698
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 3: and Magneil on the way.

699
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: This is a UFC fight night. Brunson Machida was the

700
00:29:59,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: main event.

701
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: But look, you're going to Brazil and you're fighting Damian

702
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: Maya for a chance probably to really get your shot

703
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: at the title.

704
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 2: Luke, this is also the.

705
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: Beginning of the fall on Colby versus Tyron Woodley, who's

706
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: still the champion, as you still know he's no longer

707
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: no sorry, Yeah, he'd beaten Arby Lawler in twenty sixteen,

708
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: so Woodley's the champion and with the fallout of att

709
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: all that business.

710
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: DC makes a quote at the prep point that they said.

711
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: I talked to Dean Thomas, and Dean Thomas told me

712
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to help Coolbe win this fight so he

713
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: can fight Tyron because I think it's an.

714
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: Easy fight for Tyron.

715
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: So there's still some of that that camp or maybe

716
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: did I right that wrong?

717
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: Do you think he said easy fight for Colby? Was

718
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: Tyron Deanan out of att.

719
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: Tyrone had like att Saint Louis for a time. I'm

720
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 3: not sure what it's called. Now.

721
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: This is when Colby was okay, Dean and Tyron are boys.

722
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: But this is also that time where Colby's saying Tyroann's

723
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: mad that they that they put up a picture.

724
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 3: Of Colby in the gym.

725
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we got a lot of that back

726
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 2: and forth. But let's go to the fight.

727
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Colby a minus one thirty five betting favorite coming in

728
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Damian min is a lot bigger than I'm Luke.

729
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, but here's the thing he is.

730
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: In Damian Maya's who's more offensive these days? Lan's three

731
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: consecutive hard overhand lefts and then three more left hands

732
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: that forced Colby to smile. That shows you you got

733
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: me and begin to circle away. Early on, You're like,

734
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: how's Colby going to attack this specific target? Because if

735
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: you try to take Maya down while you're falling into

736
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a spider web, well he's lighting them up on the

737
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: feet early.

738
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: Well, how about this Colby Covington for takedowns zero for

739
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: zero Round one, zero for zero, Round two, zero for zero,

740
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: Round three, which, of course we already knew, but I

741
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 3: bring up to say, dude, he couldn't rely on wrestling

742
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: at all. Maybe some clinch neutralization at times, but mostly

743
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 3: he was trying to just keep distance from him bleeding

744
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: in the bleeding because he's been hit with the overhand

745
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: left so you can see the blood coming down. But dude,

746
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: about midway through that round, he takes that fight by

747
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: the scruff of the neck and never looks back. How

748
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: he turned leg kicks, calf kicks, Well, he gets away

749
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: from him, though I'm actually right but no.

750
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: But that's the turn in round one.

751
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: Lit up, he's bleeding, he's smiling, the crowds booing him.

752
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: He begins to re establish, stand in front of him

753
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: and kick the lead leg of Maya because he's not

754
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: going to take him down. And as you said with

755
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: those statistics, Luke, in the end, he's not going to

756
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: attempt to try to take him down.

757
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: He doesn't want any of that smoke.

758
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: So for Colby to win this, and this is such

759
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: a pivotal contest guy coming off of a title shot,

760
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: is Colby ready for this level?

761
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to outstrike him.

762
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: Now, I know in theory you're like, well, Damon Maya

763
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: is not a striking force, but Luke, at times, I mean,

764
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: Damon Maya versus Ben asperin some of the.

765
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: Worst striking we've ever seen an elite level. But at

766
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: times in this run, Damian Maya is not easy to

767
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: strike with.

768
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: And also know, is that accurate? That's fair?

769
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 2: It's not.

770
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: It's but for Anderson Silva, well they thought, but so

771
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 3: it was what it was. But I mean, like an

772
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: elite striker would probably have his way. Koby's not an

773
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 3: elite striker, but the thing for me that stood out.

774
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: Two things set up for me. The light kicks were

775
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: big in round one, he got away from them after

776
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: that came back a little bit in round three. The

777
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: thing that set up for me was two things. One dude.

778
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: He was so much physically stronger than Demi and Maya.

779
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: This fight, to me highlights the difference between dudes who

780
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: grew up wrestling who are great athletes, and then dudes

781
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 3: who tried to learn wrestling later. Now, obviously guys like

782
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: Saint Pierre have kind of muddled that, but Demi and

783
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: Maya could. And every time he tries to lock up dude,

784
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: the scrambles from Colby Covington to turn left, turn right,

785
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 3: turn around, back him up. Maya was overwhelmed. He would

786
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: trip up dig with.

787
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: Him and then he outstruck him. But that pace started

788
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: to You could see.

789
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: Them, don't you feel like when they locked up, Colby

790
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: was like muscling him around.

791
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: Mayo looks like the bigger fighters was landing the heavier

792
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: strikes earlier. Once Colby settled in I'm not gonna shoot,

793
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: but I'm going to put pressure on you constantly.

794
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: It actually then became a gas tank game.

795
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: Luke in hinzeight I remember watching this fight and going,

796
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: why is gassed out in the middle of the second round, Hey,

797
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: look like he.

798
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: Was gassed out.

799
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: He look like he was gassed out.

800
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: When right made a change, is Colby can start to

801
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: get more confidence offensively were He's starting to land uppercuts,

802
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: He's throwing boxing combinations, the crowd booing the shit out

803
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: of him.

804
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: But by round three, Luke, would you say this is.

805
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: Like one sided super one side, He's he's banging up

806
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: mind and also Maya. The difference was again in the

807
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: Woodley fight, Maya couldn't get his takedowns or submissions going.

808
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: In this fight, he couldn't get them going, and was

809
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 3: also on the other end of just a constant, sort

810
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: of steady drumbeat of offense on the feet. One thing

811
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 3: he did that was a great adjustment. I wanted to

812
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 3: bring it up. He put his hands up high. Mike

813
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: Brown told him in between rounds, get your guard high

814
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 3: and then throw it from there. And you can see

815
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: him do it. And then the lefts that are coming

816
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 3: over start to miss. He starts to get away from him,

817
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: and then once the left wasn't really an option for

818
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: Demi and Maia to go back to as it was

819
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 3: early in the first round. He doesn't have anything for him.

820
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 3: He has nothing for him.

821
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Well, here's what really angered the fans.

822
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: At the end of round three, Maya desperate takedown attemp Kobe,

823
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: sprawls and then give Kobe credit, Luke, he was almost

824
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: doing Lesber's style ground and pound underneath it and he

825
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: bloodies up Maya and he's discount double checking after the bell,

826
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's looking, and then he goes not

827
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: just he'll turn, he doubles on it. Brazil, you're a

828
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: dump all you fit the filth the animals suck, he

829
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: would call out Woodley. He would push off the Brazilian

830
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: translator and say they don't even deserve to hear this.

831
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: And it's sort of like, holy shit, Luke, he didn't

832
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: just neutralize Damian Maya. He beat the shit out of

833
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: him and left and bloody, and then he turned on

834
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Brazil and they're.

835
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: Throwing shit out and left and right. Luke.

836
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: Of course it leads to the verduing Boomerang incident. But

837
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: this is is fairly aggressive. You don't see this type

838
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: of reaction regularly.

839
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: No, And then also we've got to remember, you know,

840
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 3: Kobe always brings it up as like a talking point.

841
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I left Demian Maya in a pool

842
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: of his own blood. Yeah he did. He did. When

843
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: Maya stands up his face as a crimson mask from

844
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: all of the damage that had accumulated in he was

845
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: already hyped up from it. He'd already obviously planned to

846
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 3: do what he did. But we talk about turning point fights,

847
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: this might be the most turning point of them all. Actually,

848
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: I know he wins the title against RDA, but BC

849
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: from the Max Griffin fight to this one. Now, now

850
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 3: the turn of the screw is beginning to happen.

851
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 1: One month later, November twenty seventeen in Australia, Coolby would

852
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: be down there for Doom would be down there. The

853
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: filthy animal Brazil comments would still be circuling. For Doom

854
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: would buy a souvenir boomerang Luke and throw it at him.

855
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: And then they kind of needed to be separated by

856
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 1: like UFCPR personnel on the scene, would you say, before

857
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: Colby then pivots again into full right wing Trump let

858
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: me go in that direction. This is peak villain spoils,

859
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: Star Wars and Spider Man movies getting Brazil after him.

860
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: This is sort of peak. Is he quasi racist? Who

861
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: is this character?

862
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 3: And he was obviously leaning into sort of right wing

863
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: politics at this time in a very loose and general way.

864
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: This is pre like really like Ally was wearing the

865
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: Maga hat and stuff like that, and this is when

866
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: people were booing him. In fact, we'll talk about in

867
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 3: the RDA fight. They're booing him there, they're booing him

868
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 3: in the Lawlor fight, but they don't boo him forever.

869
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: We go to a monster fight. It's June of twenty eighteen.

870
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: It's in Chicago.

871
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: It's for the interim UFC Welterweight title at UFC two

872
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: twenty five. Luke, that's Robert wood versus Joel Romero Part two.

873
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: Why are we doing an interim title here? Is it

874
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: because Tyron Woody couldn't come back in time?

875
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 3: I believe that's correct.

876
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it's the first cole main event for Colby. It's

877
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: really his first monster Monster placing at this level. He's

878
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: a minus one thirty five favorite. What do you remember

879
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: coming in against Hafio Dosanjos who if you.

880
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: Want to know, Hafiya had moved down.

881
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Luke, I'm sorry, we'd move back up to welterweight, loses

882
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: his lightweight title by knockout, has that Tony Ferguson fight

883
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: where cutting weight nearly kills.

884
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: Him, goes to welterweight.

885
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: Luke beats Terreik, Saphadine, Neil Magni, Robbie Lawler and is

886
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: now in an interim title fight. Do you remember thinking

887
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: Colby minus won thirty five as the betting favorite.

888
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 3: That's about right for this I don't remember thinking. I remember.

889
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: I think it was a bad fight for RDA.

890
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: I had in your mind.

891
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: You've that Maya victory was enough to show you that,

892
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 1: like this guy might win the title.

893
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, this guy's.

894
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Going yeah, oh yeah, to do what he did again.

895
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: Remember Woodley did it for five rounds, Colby just for three. Okay,

896
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: that's a difference. But Woodley didn't put hardly any glows

897
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: on him. That's why he got booed out of the

898
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 3: Honda Center at the time. Fairly or unfairly, he did, Dude,

899
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 3: Colby beat him up. He like put a beating on

900
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 3: him without any takedowns. And it's like, okay, you couldn't

901
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: get takedowns against that guy because of his submission threat.

902
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: Now you get to go right back to all your takedowns,

903
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 3: and that guy couldn't do shit too. It's like, man,

904
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: this guy has a lot of different gears that it's

905
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: not the prettiest game. You're not going to make the

906
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: most amazing highlight reels out of it, but it's damn effective.

907
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: But here's what's important.

908
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: So against Damian and Maya, Colby get might have gassed

909
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: him out by round two of a three round fight,

910
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: but he's moving up to the five round level for

911
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: the first time. This would be the first of five

912
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: consecutive fights for Colby that.

913
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: At least entered the fifth round.

914
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: Luke, He's thinking, I already got an amazing cardio. I

915
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: just gassed out Maya, but I didn't try to take

916
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: him down because I I didn't want to f around

917
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: with that guy's jesuits. RDA well rounded, but not as

918
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: dangerous on the ground. Colby is going into full on

919
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: weaponizing cardio assassin here. He runs across the cage to

920
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: start this fight and instantly shoots and takes rdaight down.

921
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: He really does Colby coming and attempted eighteen takedowns in

922
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: this fight, four in the first three in the second,

923
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: three in the third, two in the fourth, and then

924
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: six in the fifth. He had to because Rdia was

925
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: kind of not putting it on him, but rally.

926
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: Rdi had had moments of rallying, yes, where the clinch

927
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: the knees to the stomach were becoming a thing.

928
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 3: Yep.

929
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: But Kolby, if it's a given credit outside of falling

930
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: into a trap and tapping against Elvis or the Olvius,

931
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: although he did pick him up and try to slam

932
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: before the tap, we're not seeing him getting like wobbled.

933
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: We're not seeing him very vulnerable. You made him mention

934
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: that he doesn't make big mistakes that lead the losses,

935
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: which is true.

936
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: He also endures pretty damn.

937
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: Well, whether it's you know, heavy strikes or and he's

938
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: not going to falter stamina wise.

939
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: He doesn't falter when he gets cut. I mean, he's

940
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: pretty damn tough.

941
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: The cardio is the is the lynchpin to all of this.

942
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: There was a famous there's a famous slogan that people

943
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: say in combat sports, fatigue makes cowards of men. When

944
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 3: you get tired, your decision making suffers. You can't make

945
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 3: the same optimal amount of decisions that you need to.

946
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 3: But what if your cardio is great, dude, you're gonna

947
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: You're at least in a position to make great choices

948
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 3: all the time. You don't have to ration your offense

949
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: or avoid things because they're difficult. You can just do

950
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 3: what you want. Such a potent weapon.

951
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: Jorge in his corner now, Jorge Molesvidal. This is his

952
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen where he is in exile.

953
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: Luke. He was pretty thick heavyweight in rubbing Colby's arms quickly.

954
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 3: Round two.

955
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean he just starts off again, head kick, flurries.

956
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 1: It ends up being the same thing really for five rounds.

957
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: RDA will have his flurries.

958
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 3: Rdia tries to wrestle him in the fourth and has

959
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 3: some success. Actually he takes him down I think once

960
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: or twice.

961
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: But the two were all weaponization of cardio and the

962
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: control and not putting himself in bad positions such damn

963
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: great win. He's the interim champion and the quote in

964
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: the post fight interview is this is the real championship belt.

965
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do what a real American should do and

966
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: take this title to the White House and put it

967
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: on Trump's desk. He would go on to call Tyrone

968
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: would lee a coward who was hiding.

969
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: Come see me, bitch, was the quote.

970
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: So if you're waiting for that right wing hard turn

971
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: at time, he wants to he wants to bring that

972
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: belt to the white homember.

973
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: He didn't call him dos Ajos. He called him dos nachos.

974
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: Remember that was very That's who he is.

975
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: That's June of twenty eighteen.

976
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: In the meantime, Luke Tyer Woodley would lose his title

977
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: to one tomorrow usman. Was this also the beginning of

978
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: behind the scenes publicly you know, like publicly Colby going

979
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: full on I'm ready to attack, you know, fake newsman

980
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Marty from Nebraska.

981
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: Well this is still okay, he's still in the Woodley sweepstakes.

982
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: But then Woodley would lose this belot yes, yes, yes, yes, four.

983
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: Colby's next fight. So Colby gets stripped. Something to note,

984
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: Kolby gets stripped of.

985
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: That interim title before his next fight.

986
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: You could argue he kind of got screwed, but he

987
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: didn't want to He didn't want to stay on you.

988
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: He couldn't stay on UFC's timeline, so he would not

989
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: fight that fall. We come around to twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,

990
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: You're new champion of Zusman. But Colby gets a big

991
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: time close up. It is UFC on ESPN. After that,

992
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: that deal goes down, and this is Robbi Lawler, the

993
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: former champion, a five round fight in Newark that will

994
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: air in the afternoon because of scheduling on ESPN. And

995
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: this would also see one Colby Covington invite the Trump brothers. Yes,

996
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: and you're seeing Colby now full on red. He's got

997
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: the red maga head everywhere. Luke, He's not even paying

998
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: the models to come to the interviews anymore. He's got

999
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 1: the Don Junior book. I mean, he's going full on ww.

1000
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 3: Remember backstage afterwards, after he wins, he gets a phone

1001
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 3: call from at the time, the President Donald Trump.

1002
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: Now to just put into perspective, where was Robby Lawler

1003
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: at this point, because this is this was a turning

1004
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: point fight. You could argue of where Robbie Lawler would

1005
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: now be now. But yet Lawler lost three or four

1006
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: coming in. But look, would you argue that even though

1007
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: Lawler had lost to Askrin, he had moments, he had

1008
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: freaking moments?

1009
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean arguably the you know, yeah, yeah, big

1010
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: time home.

1011
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: You know he had got knocked out by Tyron Woodley

1012
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: bounced back against Cowboy. Did the loss to RDA for

1013
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: Lawler make you feel like overall he was washed?

1014
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, not washed, but in a different place.

1015
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: I remember coming into this fight, I still didn't believe

1016
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: in Colby, and I think looking back, I'm kind of

1017
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: embarrassed as you go through this progression. Now you're like,

1018
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: oh shit. The MAYA and RDA fights pretty much showed

1019
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: us what we.

1020
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: Need to know.

1021
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes when you're looking at it a

1022
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: little more from a distance, I didn't feel like his

1023
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: striking could stand up with a truly elite striker.

1024
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 2: I know he gave in trade with RDA very well, but.

1025
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: I felt like he constantly was able to pull these

1026
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: guys into exhaustion. For some reason, Robbi Laller's stinginess, stinginess

1027
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: and takedown defense and just his ability to go savage.

1028
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 2: I felt like this was going to be a trap

1029
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: fight for Colby. Dude, I think I picked Robbie to win.

1030
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you shouldn't have.

1031
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 2: No, because this fight was not even close.

1032
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was he pissed on poor Robbie Lawler.

1033
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: Now, to be fair, there.

1034
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: Was one fifty forty four scorecard. By the way, fifty

1035
00:43:58,640 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: forty five. He won all of them.

1036
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean Robbi had lost three or four, right, He

1037
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 1: just lost to ask Grin in a fight which he

1038
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: had moments, But man, I just did not expect the

1039
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: lifelessness from Robbie. How much of that lifelessness was Colby's

1040
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: just constant frickin' pressure in your face.

1041
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: This, to me is the real stat two attempted takedowns

1042
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: in round four for Colby, just one attempted in round five.

1043
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Didn't get it so over in round five, and he

1044
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: only got one of the two in round four. But

1045
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 3: listen to this. Seven takedowns attempted in the first, four

1046
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 3: of them, he got three attempted takedowns in the second,

1047
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: all of them. He got five attempted takedowns in the third.

1048
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: Two of them he got. Here's the point I want

1049
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 3: to make. He comes right out of the gate with pressure, boom,

1050
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 3: puts you on your back. Was threatening with those chokes

1051
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: that were not very close, but they occupy your hands.

1052
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: He's getting his legs pulled out, he's getting his base

1053
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 3: pulled out constantly. Things are happening to him again. One

1054
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy nine significant strikes landed BC out of

1055
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: five hundred and fifteen attempted. He attempted over five hundred

1056
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: significant strikes in this fight, ten of eighteen takedowns. Dude,

1057
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: it was a torrential monsoon downpour of offense. And I

1058
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: always liken him to rain. It's not that the rain

1059
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 3: itself is a hurricane in the sense that you're getting

1060
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: trapped and it's all just the most intense mailstrom you've

1061
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: ever seen in your life. No, it's just consistent applied rain.

1062
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: It just stays there and no one can find an

1063
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 3: umbrella underneath it.

1064
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Man, he's ready, He's ready for the title level, Luke.

1065
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: Just two months before that Lawler win, as I mentioned,

1066
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: the title change hands. So now we're in full on

1067
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: build towards this grudge match. But Luke, you could argue

1068
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: that once they finally fought their first time in December

1069
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, one of the greatest fights action fights in

1070
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: UFC title history, it had actually kind of calmed down

1071
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: that promotion and built up that three months was very

1072
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: just regular compared to what we saw after the Robbie

1073
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: Lawler win in August of twenty nineteen. Initially I mean

1074
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: that was red hot. They run into each other in

1075
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: a buffet and Las Vegas and.

1076
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: They with alliobils easier.

1077
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: And you know, again, Kolby's not pro UFC at this moment.

1078
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: He's bringing the title to all the interim title that

1079
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: got stripped FM.

1080
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: Remember he was waggling Dana and showing up to his

1081
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 3: spot when he's playing.

1082
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: He's actually he's clown and Dana he's public enemy number

1083
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: one to everybody. But yet this Robbie Lawler whin restored

1084
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,720
Speaker 1: whatever was lost from him getting stripped of the interim

1085
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: title because he couldn't fight at that exact moment.

1086
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: He's going to get the title fight anyway.

1087
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: As we enter UFC two forty five to close off

1088
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: in December of twenty nineteen, to close off that calendar year,

1089
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: what do you remember about the true chances you were

1090
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: giving Colby of beating Kamara Usman, Because look at its core,

1091
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: if Kamara Usman never existed, Koby Covington might have been

1092
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: the title for the last title, the title holder for

1093
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: the last four years in this division. He just happened

1094
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 1: to find somebody true or false in his era in

1095
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: his division.

1096
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: At the same time, who is like him but better.

1097
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, basically a little bit. They have slightly different games,

1098
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: very or different. This wasn't Usman fully transitioned yet this

1099
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: was still This was still with Henry Hoft. I always

1100
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: say this, like everyone gives Trevor Whitmen credit for changing

1101
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: kamor Usman, and you should like he did great things,

1102
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 3: But dude, he got to a championship level with Henry Hoof,

1103
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: Like that is a real thing that actually happened. I

1104
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: remember thinking this one there was gonna be wrestling, right,

1105
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: obviously there was a little bit more in the second one,

1106
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: but and there wasn't any, so that was a surprise.

1107
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 3: I remember thinking, if there wasn't wrestling, I didn't see

1108
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: a viable path for Colby, Yes, which ended up being true,

1109
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: except we go back to that. We'll talk about a

1110
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: second fight later. But also remember round five when he

1111
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 3: gets knocked down twice and gets his jaw broken heading

1112
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: into that, it's two to two, three one Kamorrow, three

1113
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 3: to one Colby. Dude, that was anyone's fight, quite literally

1114
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: heading into round five, and Mark Goddard played he was

1115
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 3: overwhelmed but barely.

1116
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to get into that in a second.

1117
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: I was just set in the table of what we thought.

1118
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing. You know, who's whose wrestling

1119
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: is gonna win out is probably going to cancel each

1120
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: other out. I didn't think it would they would just

1121
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: completely give up on it all together.

1122
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: But look to really like double down on how much

1123
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 2: Kolby was hated.

1124
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: In addition to being against the UFC doing the full

1125
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: on Trump thing, being the full on villain, he had

1126
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: turned on everyone at ATT during this time as well.

1127
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: He was in a public few with Yoanna at one point.

1128
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: He was in a few suddenly beginnings of the Dustin one,

1129
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: which is still fresh and live now. I think there

1130
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: was some hoges at this point. So I'm like, pretty sure,

1131
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, I can't defend this guy anymore. With all

1132
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: that said, and with my expectation that he just was

1133
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 1: inevitably going to lose a decision here against the decision

1134
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: machine that is usman, dude, I never thought Colby was

1135
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,959
Speaker 1: this tough to be able to stand in what turned

1136
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: out to be a five round kickboxing match but more just.

1137
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 2: A boxing match. They were both gritty as shit. He

1138
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 2: won me over. This was the moment.

1139
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: It should have happened before, But really This was the

1140
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: moment in defeat fifth round TKO where the scorecards if

1141
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Goddard would have let him go the distance.

1142
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Dude, I didn't think he was that good. I didn't

1143
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: think he was that good. Turns out he's great. He's

1144
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: a great fighter.

1145
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: A lot of times people think that a guy who

1146
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 3: fights like Colby is afraid of contact, like he'll dish it,

1147
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 3: but when it comes his way that they just completely wilt.

1148
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: They can't take anything. In fact, that's why they fight

1149
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: that way, almost like a bully, because they don't want

1150
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: to receive anything on the other end. So I'll just

1151
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: say this, this was a fight where he abandoned his wrestling.

1152
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: Both guys did obviously bit down on the mouthpiece and

1153
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: met the guy in the center. Now, it didn't end

1154
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: up being enough for him on that night, but it

1155
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: was the kind of frankly, let's call it what it was,

1156
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: championship medal. It was a certain intensity he was matching

1157
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: Kamaro basically. You know, again, all the judges were split

1158
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: but round for round up until that fifth and that's

1159
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: when Kumorrow showed how much better he was.

1160
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: If he did a power he had won back Dana's

1161
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: love with his performance. Dana would go on to say,

1162
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: from the moment it ended that it's like his favorite,

1163
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: one of his favorite.

1164
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 2: Fights in UFC history.

1165
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: You felt the rematch was going to be inevitable coming

1166
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: out of this. Colby played it well, I thought, blaming

1167
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: it on Mark godder Back and you know, keeping himself

1168
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: pumped up. Luke in between, there's not much to say

1169
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: about this September of twenty twenty.

1170
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: It would be almost a year later when.

1171
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: Colby finally does come back because uh Usman went the

1172
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,439
Speaker 1: way of Jorge Mobs vital. It's Tyrone Woodley, but it's

1173
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Tyrone Woodley damaged goods and Colby absolutely dominates him in

1174
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: a fifth round t a stoppage due to rib injury.

1175
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: But Luke it it would look like it was gonna

1176
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 2: be stoppage inevitably.

1177
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: You know, it was funny about this fight. I went

1178
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 3: back and I watched it this morning just to be sure.

1179
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: And Dude, Colby, I'm not saying barely tries. That's not

1180
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: fair or true, but he doesn't have nearly the same

1181
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 3: intensity he did for like the dos Angos fight or

1182
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: the Lawlor fight.

1183
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't that much hate in the build of this.

1184
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: No, there wasn't. And I gotta say, by the time

1185
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: he did it, I think Colby knew he was way better.

1186
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: Tyrone was onto the outs.

1187
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: If this, Coby knew he needed a big win to

1188
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: get a chance at being in the USBONS.

1189
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: We stayed that's right, that's right. So he turned in.

1190
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 3: I won't call it pedestrian performance because he I actually

1191
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: get the stoppage in the end. But also Tyrone was

1192
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: at the very last legs of his MA career at

1193
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 3: that point. And but dude, Colby was just what do

1194
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 3: you want to know?

1195
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: And had Tyrone engaged like he did against Luca, He's

1196
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: just gonna get.

1197
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: Taken down ball than guessed out anyway, Luke.

1198
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: It took a while, it would take another full year,

1199
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,439
Speaker 1: but the final fight in the arc of Colby Covene.

1200
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 3: So well, last thing, I know, we gotta go. But

1201
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 3: I will say I do feel like we missed out

1202
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: on the kind of fight Colby versus Tyrann in their

1203
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: prime should have happened, which is why Actually I am

1204
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: liking the fact that he's fighting Jorge because him and

1205
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: Kumara were rivals and we've seen that, but they're so close.

1206
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: But now we've got two guys with very different styles

1207
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 3: who also hate each other.

1208
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: So that might make for two and a half years

1209
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: too late to be really fair, are you know? Kolbe

1210
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: versus Woodley, Luke, it would turn out Kolby by sitting out,

1211
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: he would sit out over a year thirteen months.

1212
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: He ends up getting the second chance at Kamarrow Usman.

1213
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 2: After Kamara Usman knocks.

1214
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: Jorge Mazvital the hell out, Luke, there was a little

1215
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: bit of customer fatigue where we you know, we not

1216
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: as much as the Masvital rematch for Usman, but a

1217
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: little bit of Okay, first fight was so much fun.

1218
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: I get it, Let's do it a second time.

1219
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people thought if that

1220
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 1: was the very best of Covington the first time around,

1221
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 1: and there was a five round war on the feet, dude,

1222
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: Usman's so.

1223
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: Much better, right, right? But the one cat so much

1224
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 3: better the one cap two caveats heading into this fire.

1225
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 3: Two things will remember. One there was bad blood after

1226
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 3: when Kolbe beat Lawler, and then they do that thing

1227
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 3: on ESPN. Karen Bryant's on stage. I forget who else

1228
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 3: is there. Rashad was on stage and then they had

1229
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: that ugly moment. We're like, oh man, it's going to

1230
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: be so ugly. The second time around, Colby tried making

1231
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 3: fun of kamar Usman's father being incarcerated and stuff like that,

1232
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: but Kamaro never took the bait. Really, he never made

1233
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: it more than that. It was still a big fight,

1234
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong. And by the way, this is

1235
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 3: the time Colby's Boode in Chicago, I think that's where

1236
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 3: it was against RDA Boode in Newark against Robbie Lawler

1237
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: cheered against kamar Usman. The second time they fought, it

1238
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 3: was its.

1239
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Past November, New York City UFC two sixty eight MSG.

1240
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: It's a big deal. It's legit.

1241
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Tomorrow had stopped Gilbert Burns, knocked at malesvid aal the

1242
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: hell out Luke. I kind of had the feeling maybe

1243
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: Usman could stop Colby earlier than he did the first time.

1244
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: But it wasn't that fight. In fact, it was a

1245
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,720
Speaker 2: close fight, and it goes to full five round distance.

1246
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: And I want to remember the scores here a unanimous

1247
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: decision for Kamara Usman forty eight forty seven on two

1248
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: score cards, forty nine to forty six on the third, Luke,

1249
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: what is the argument and after rewatching this fight, you

1250
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: know two three times, there isn't our. What is the

1251
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: argument for COVID Covington maybe winning this way one.

1252
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 3: There's a controversy around the takedown. Did he get it?

1253
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 3: Nothing that would have changed the complexion of the round.

1254
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: But if you just look at the numbers, he's a

1255
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: little bit short overall on volume, and he did get

1256
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: knocked down twice in the second and that hurts his

1257
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 3: overall argument a lot. So you were numerically outstruck and

1258
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: you were dropped. But dude, he rallies after that pretty

1259
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: significantly in the fourth round and in the actually in

1260
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 3: the fourth round he outstrikes him pretty significantly, and the

1261
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: third and in the fifth it's very very, very very close.

1262
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: So this is what I always talk about, like pay

1263
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 3: attention to what someone does in mma the round after

1264
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: something bad happens to him. Perfect example, Michael Bis being

1265
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 3: taken on, Anderson Silva gets dropped I think in the

1266
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 3: end of the third or end of the fourth, whatever

1267
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: one it was. Then in the next round, third comes

1268
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: out in the fourth and that's his best round of

1269
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: the fight. Stuck it fucking to him. Now, Kumaru resists

1270
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the same things that Anderson ultimately fell

1271
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 3: victim to. But this is what I'm talking about, dude.

1272
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 3: He comes out in that third round and begins to

1273
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 3: just the will is significant and he attempts at least

1274
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 3: four takedowns, doesn't get them, but he is trying to

1275
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: just do that.

1276
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: Out of att something we forgot to say. He's with

1277
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: MMA Masters, he's doing something different. How much better as

1278
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a complete, well rounded fighter. Do you think that Colby

1279
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: in the rematch to Kamorrow was to compare to the.

1280
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 3: First much better the takedowns? You know, it didn't go

1281
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: the way that there was more of them at least attempted,

1282
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 3: but it didn't go. But dude, this is the thing

1283
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: that people get lost. Colby has developed a series of

1284
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 3: really good weapons and scenarios in terms of strike selection

1285
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 3: that he's really good about throwing, right, So he mixes

1286
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: everything into what he wants to do with the whole

1287
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 3: throw and look for a collar tie or throw and

1288
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 3: look for an underhook or some kind of arrangement. He's yeah,

1289
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Speaker 3: and he's just steady volume. He just again, it's rain.

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Speaker 3: You're constantly trying to see through what's happening, and it's

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Speaker 3: hard to get a good look at it. He did

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Speaker 3: put some of that on. Kamara was a little bit

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Speaker 3: more on the back foot, so to speak, than I

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Speaker 3: think folks had anticipated. Now Kamara did well, of course,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, dude, Colby really was. Could you you say

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Speaker 3: he was the equal? Not because of the knockdowns, yes,

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Speaker 3: but for the knockdowns pretty pretty equal.

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Speaker 1: It's a loss, but as we've seen along this arc

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Speaker 1: of Cooby covington'sins making his UFC debut in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: he has responded very well to those first two losses.

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Speaker 1: This will be his a chance to respond to that

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Speaker 1: third loss the second time against Woodley when I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: against respond when he faces Jorge Mosvidal, the former teammate,

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Speaker 1: this Saturday, UFC two seventy two.

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Speaker 2: You know morning, Combat's gonna have it all.

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Speaker 1: Preview review, recap all that and then some tall, pale

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Speaker 1: and handsome. This is Brian Campbell, Luke Thomas next to me.

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Speaker 1: Resume review Colby Covington in the book.

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Speaker 3: In the books, Happy to have it done, Enjoy the fights,