1 00:00:05,150 --> 00:00:07,950 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I am Rashawn McDonald, the host 2 00:00:07,990 --> 00:00:11,670 Speaker 1: of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, where we encourage people to 3 00:00:11,710 --> 00:00:15,450 Speaker 1: stop reading other people's success stories and start planning their own. 4 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:19,430 Speaker 1: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, 5 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:22,549 Speaker 1: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running 6 00:00:22,590 --> 00:00:25,570 Speaker 1: their companies and speak with nonprofits who are making a 7 00:00:25,650 --> 00:00:28,900 Speaker 1: difference in their local communities. Now sit back and listen 8 00:00:29,220 --> 00:00:32,060 Speaker 1: as we unlock the secrets to their success on Money 9 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:38,019 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. I'm 10 00:00:38,060 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: your host of the show, Rashawn McDonald. We're down here 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta to meet the one and only Keir Jr. Spates, 12 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: one of the stars of the popular radio show called 13 00:00:48,020 --> 00:00:51,140 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey Morning Show. Here's a plan down here, a 14 00:00:51,180 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: plan to change the lives of people who are affected 15 00:00:53,820 --> 00:00:57,270 Speaker 1: by sickle cell disease. He has the disease. but he 16 00:00:57,310 --> 00:00:59,830 Speaker 1: wants to let you know it can't stop you from dreaming. 17 00:01:00,170 --> 00:01:03,370 Speaker 1: He has a podcast. He has a foundation called Kier's Hope. 18 00:01:03,970 --> 00:01:06,350 Speaker 1: Now you'll be able to hear his story and why 19 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:09,010 Speaker 1: he's changing the game and why the community is being 20 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:13,030 Speaker 1: impacted by his personal efforts. Please don't go anywhere. We're 21 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: about to meet the one and only Kier Junior Spates. 22 00:01:16,380 --> 00:01:19,740 Speaker 2: I'm Kier Junior Spates, founder of Kier's Hope Foundation. 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,900 Speaker 1: I'm here in Atlanta, Georgia with the one and only 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:25,770 Speaker 1: Kier Junior. Junior Spates. How you doing, my brother? 25 00:01:25,790 --> 00:01:26,150 Speaker 3: Good, brother. 26 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:26,639 Speaker 2: How you doing, man? 27 00:01:26,650 --> 00:01:27,490 Speaker 1: I know you get up early, man. 28 00:01:27,569 --> 00:01:28,230 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude. 29 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:29,869 Speaker 1: I get up, man. Steve Harvey Morning Show. 30 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:30,810 Speaker 2: Every morning, dude. 31 00:01:31,209 --> 00:01:33,190 Speaker 1: Well, good. How does it feel to be a part 32 00:01:33,290 --> 00:01:36,050 Speaker 1: of an engine like that that has been, it changes 33 00:01:36,090 --> 00:01:39,570 Speaker 1: the community, and you're also personally changing the community. Tell 34 00:01:39,590 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: us your backstory about the Steve Harvey Morning Show. 35 00:01:42,459 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: You know, I met Steve in L.A. back in 2001. 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,940 Speaker 2: And then I got a phone call from, saying, hey, 37 00:01:51,980 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: you want to go on a road with Steve in 2009. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 39 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: Then went down to Miami, opened up for him, got 40 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: another phone call. Hey, you doing anything this weekend? Want 41 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,140 Speaker 2: to go to Philly? And I was trying to figure out, 42 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: how come they keep calling? Who all said no to 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: find me, who was not famous, nobody, just a comedian? 44 00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:10,060 Speaker 2: I know. A lot of people had to be in 45 00:02:10,090 --> 00:02:10,990 Speaker 2: the way before he could get to me. 46 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:11,410 Speaker 1: Right. 47 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:13,100 Speaker 2: But I'm so glad he did find me. 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,340 Speaker 3: Mr. 49 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:19,609 Speaker 2: Harvey is a very powerful person. Influenced on a lot 50 00:02:19,630 --> 00:02:26,230 Speaker 2: of young comedians, including myself. So then I get a call, 2011. Hey, man, 51 00:02:26,290 --> 00:02:29,980 Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about changing not just 52 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,260 Speaker 2: your life, not just your career, but your life. 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: Right. 54 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:37,179 Speaker 2: And that call came from Sean McDonald. I'll never forget 55 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: that day, man. And it was just so much to learn. 56 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:43,420 Speaker 2: I did not know a lot of the things that 57 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,220 Speaker 2: I did not know as a comedian. Because I wasn't 58 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,260 Speaker 2: taught the right way. 59 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: Right. 60 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: And all I was just really working off of was 61 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: pure talent. 62 00:02:50,660 --> 00:02:51,150 Speaker 1: Right. 63 00:02:51,250 --> 00:02:54,570 Speaker 2: That's all I had. You know, now I learned the 64 00:02:54,650 --> 00:02:58,130 Speaker 2: actual business of comedy. Mm-hmm. The business of radio. 65 00:02:58,250 --> 00:02:58,470 Speaker 3: Right. 66 00:02:58,810 --> 00:03:01,350 Speaker 2: And then you put all those things together, and you 67 00:03:01,389 --> 00:03:04,510 Speaker 2: have a disease, and Mr. Harvey, and I said, can't 68 00:03:04,530 --> 00:03:05,830 Speaker 2: sit on my show and not have a cause. 69 00:03:06,270 --> 00:03:06,430 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 70 00:03:06,930 --> 00:03:08,950 Speaker 2: And that's how I started my foundation, Cure's Hope. 71 00:03:09,270 --> 00:03:09,630 Speaker 1: Cure's Hope. 72 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:10,210 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 73 00:03:10,510 --> 00:03:12,790 Speaker 1: It was a foundation that you met him in 2001. Mm-hmm. 74 00:03:14,870 --> 00:03:17,310 Speaker 1: On the road with him in 2009. What year did 75 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:19,100 Speaker 1: you start your foundation? 2012. 76 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:21,100 Speaker 2: 2012. No, 2013. 77 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 1: 2013. And that was his cause. He said sitting on 78 00:03:27,260 --> 00:03:29,500 Speaker 1: the radio show was a cause for the community. 79 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 2: For the community. 80 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: But you had a bigger cause because you actually have 81 00:03:32,419 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: sickle cell disease. 82 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:39,890 Speaker 2: Yes. You know, the thing about that, man, is they 83 00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:42,930 Speaker 2: told me at seven that it was over. You know, 84 00:03:42,970 --> 00:03:43,850 Speaker 2: my parents didn't know. 85 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:45,030 Speaker 1: They said, over, what do you mean? 86 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:46,869 Speaker 2: Like, my life was over. I'm going to die. 87 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:48,570 Speaker 1: At seven? At seven. 88 00:03:48,590 --> 00:03:50,090 Speaker 2: They told me at seven that I only had to 89 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,290 Speaker 2: live until 11 years old. And, you know, I think 90 00:03:53,330 --> 00:03:57,150 Speaker 2: about the pressure that it puts on my parents because 91 00:03:57,190 --> 00:04:01,010 Speaker 2: they really thought my son, my firstborn son, won't make 92 00:04:01,070 --> 00:04:04,410 Speaker 2: it past 11 years old. He's already seven. And I 93 00:04:04,450 --> 00:04:06,590 Speaker 2: was only diagnosed at seven. So, I mean, that's seven 94 00:04:06,610 --> 00:04:08,810 Speaker 2: years of my parents not knowing what is actually wrong 95 00:04:08,870 --> 00:04:09,450 Speaker 2: with my child. 96 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:09,950 Speaker 1: Right. 97 00:04:10,330 --> 00:04:11,330 Speaker 2: And, you know, it's crazy, man. 98 00:04:11,470 --> 00:04:12,970 Speaker 1: So, in and out of the hospital? 99 00:04:13,070 --> 00:04:18,380 Speaker 2: In and out of the hospital. Really, really right after 100 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,420 Speaker 2: about when I was diagnosed, they understood. And then because 101 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: I was so active as a child, I went back in, 102 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,299 Speaker 2: back out, in and out of the hospital. 103 00:04:26,380 --> 00:04:26,779 Speaker 1: Right. 104 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: So, you know, probably in a year, I probably would 105 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,370 Speaker 2: have like four or five visits. That's extremely high. 106 00:04:32,930 --> 00:04:33,190 Speaker 3: Wow. 107 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:35,370 Speaker 2: You know, for a kid. 108 00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:36,029 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 109 00:04:36,089 --> 00:04:38,099 Speaker 2: You know, that's a lot of medication you put inside 110 00:04:38,140 --> 00:04:41,500 Speaker 2: of a kid. Mm-hmm. And so that got me to 111 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:45,260 Speaker 2: thinking about and really find out who all out here 112 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:45,900 Speaker 2: has sickle cell. 113 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: Right. 114 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: Because at my school, I'm the only one I know. 115 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: But the sickle cell community. 116 00:04:50,670 --> 00:04:50,940 Speaker 2: Yes. 117 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 118 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:53,350 Speaker 2: You know, when I was in school, I was the 119 00:04:53,370 --> 00:04:54,610 Speaker 2: only one that I knew had sickle cell. 120 00:04:54,850 --> 00:04:55,090 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 121 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:59,070 Speaker 2: But I wanted to find out who's all into this 122 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:01,349 Speaker 2: community and who are doing the positive things. 123 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:01,990 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 124 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: In this community? You know, who are the people who 125 00:05:05,540 --> 00:05:08,060 Speaker 2: are all out here with 6-0 just like me, but 126 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,180 Speaker 2: don't believe that their life is over because they got 127 00:05:10,380 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: diagnosed with something that could kill them? 128 00:05:13,300 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: Right. 129 00:05:13,940 --> 00:05:18,860 Speaker 2: You know? And so I took that 11 years old 130 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:19,500 Speaker 2: real personal. 131 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: Right. 132 00:05:20,750 --> 00:05:22,580 Speaker 2: You know, I made that my number, number 11. I 133 00:05:22,610 --> 00:05:23,290 Speaker 2: was playing sports. 134 00:05:23,870 --> 00:05:25,110 Speaker 1: So you played athletics. 135 00:05:25,170 --> 00:05:27,909 Speaker 2: I played athletics. I played football. I played basketball. Ran track. 136 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:31,450 Speaker 2: And they told me that you weren't going to live 137 00:05:31,470 --> 00:05:35,250 Speaker 2: past 11. So I took that personal, that my life 138 00:05:35,490 --> 00:05:38,630 Speaker 2: can be just as great as anyone else's with anything 139 00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:41,830 Speaker 2: just because I have sickle cell and you stereotype me 140 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:43,610 Speaker 2: as if I have to go with 11 years old. 141 00:05:43,730 --> 00:05:46,490 Speaker 2: I didn't want to die at 11. Nobody does. Right. 142 00:05:46,570 --> 00:05:48,290 Speaker 2: And so that was a hard thing for me to accept. 143 00:05:48,490 --> 00:05:49,310 Speaker 2: So I took it personal. 144 00:05:49,510 --> 00:05:49,670 Speaker 3: Right. 145 00:05:49,790 --> 00:05:51,570 Speaker 2: I wanted to be the best football player I could be. 146 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:53,930 Speaker 2: I wanted to be the best basketball player I could be. 147 00:05:54,130 --> 00:05:55,790 Speaker 2: I want to show you on the track, I'm going 148 00:05:55,810 --> 00:05:58,370 Speaker 2: to show you how fast people with sickle cell really are. 149 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:04,140 Speaker 1: But the ignorance of sickle cell. Yes. sidetracked your sports career. 150 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: It did. 151 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: Talk to us. 152 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:09,380 Speaker 2: A team doctor came that year, my senior year. I 153 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:13,539 Speaker 2: had been in this program for at least five years, 154 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: playing for this one school. And they get a new 155 00:06:16,580 --> 00:06:20,650 Speaker 2: team doctor. And another player on the team said, hey, Doc, 156 00:06:20,950 --> 00:06:23,590 Speaker 2: he has sickle cell. Doc says, take him off team 157 00:06:23,630 --> 00:06:27,250 Speaker 2: right now. That's all it was. No, no, no, let's 158 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:30,190 Speaker 2: go find out how we can help him play football. 159 00:06:30,290 --> 00:06:33,409 Speaker 2: None of that. The doctor says, no, no. He has 160 00:06:33,450 --> 00:06:34,230 Speaker 2: sickle cell. Take him off. 161 00:06:34,690 --> 00:06:34,890 Speaker 3: Wow. 162 00:06:35,270 --> 00:06:38,570 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, this is in my senior year. Scholarships? 163 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:44,859 Speaker 2: Scholarships are on the line. And you snatch with it. 164 00:06:45,130 --> 00:06:48,099 Speaker 2: That whole moment made me understand that I don't want 165 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: this to happen to another person with sickle cell. I 166 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: don't want this to, nobody had this feeling. And I 167 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,740 Speaker 2: made a promise to myself that I would never let 168 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: sickle cell rob me of another thing. And that's why 169 00:06:58,540 --> 00:07:00,830 Speaker 2: I said I choose to live my life when I'm, 170 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,700 Speaker 2: In a way that I want other people to see 171 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 2: themselves say, man, I'm inspired. 172 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 3: Right. 173 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:07,179 Speaker 2: Look what he's doing. 174 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,740 Speaker 1: So your foundation is about motivation and inspiration. 175 00:07:09,860 --> 00:07:15,350 Speaker 2: It's about motivation and inspiration. It's about showing people that 176 00:07:15,790 --> 00:07:18,050 Speaker 2: your life can be just as amazing if you just 177 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:18,410 Speaker 2: dream it. 178 00:07:18,890 --> 00:07:23,290 Speaker 1: Cool. Now, 2013, that's when you started the foundation. How 179 00:07:23,330 --> 00:07:27,770 Speaker 1: does one start a foundation? That's a great idea, but 180 00:07:27,830 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: how does one start a foundation? 181 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:29,860 Speaker 3: Well. 182 00:07:30,930 --> 00:07:33,510 Speaker 2: I called some people who had foundations and asked them. 183 00:07:33,810 --> 00:07:34,290 Speaker 1: Mentorship. 184 00:07:34,390 --> 00:07:37,930 Speaker 2: Yeah, mentorship. And, you know, they went down there and 185 00:07:38,010 --> 00:07:39,780 Speaker 2: actually filled out all the paperwork for me. 186 00:07:39,950 --> 00:07:40,210 Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. 187 00:07:40,610 --> 00:07:42,910 Speaker 2: And they brought me back the approval that I had 188 00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:47,140 Speaker 2: a 501c3. Mm-hmm. And, man, I went right to work. 189 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 2: I mean, because I had no idea. You understand, you know, 190 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: starting something like that and you've never done it because 191 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: I'm just a comedian. I don't know, you know, all 192 00:07:55,460 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: the rules and laws. 193 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: Right, right. 194 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,100 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not down there. I said, man, but 195 00:07:59,140 --> 00:07:59,820 Speaker 2: I want it. 196 00:07:59,810 --> 00:08:00,370 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 197 00:08:00,740 --> 00:08:04,740 Speaker 2: Because I was working with another foundation and they just 198 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: didn't really want to do what I wanted to do. 199 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: They didn't have your vision. 200 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: They didn't have the vision. Okay. And so I said, okay, 201 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: why don't I just go start my own? Yeah. 202 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: So it's important when you talk about the secrets to 203 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,860 Speaker 1: your success, if you have a vision and it's not 204 00:08:17,900 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: being shaped, and it's being shaped in a different direction, 205 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: then you should take control of it. 206 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,860 Speaker 2: You got to take control of it. Yeah. That's one 207 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: thing about it is that what I had envisioned for 208 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: people with sickle cell was not theirs. 209 00:08:30,660 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: Right. 210 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,830 Speaker 2: And so, yeah, I took it on personally and say, okay, 211 00:08:34,850 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. If you don't like the idea 212 00:08:37,070 --> 00:08:39,050 Speaker 2: that I have, because why are we still in the 213 00:08:39,070 --> 00:08:41,709 Speaker 2: state that we're still in? How come everybody feels the 214 00:08:41,730 --> 00:08:43,970 Speaker 2: way they feel about civil sale? They don't know anything 215 00:08:44,090 --> 00:08:46,550 Speaker 2: about it. Everybody gets to look on their face. What 216 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:49,050 Speaker 2: is this? How come they're here at that? No. 217 00:08:49,590 --> 00:08:49,910 Speaker 1: Right. 218 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:53,890 Speaker 2: No. Because I'm still here. Right. I'm still here. I'm 219 00:08:53,910 --> 00:08:54,350 Speaker 2: still here. 220 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:56,530 Speaker 1: Let me know what you hear about it at. 221 00:08:56,590 --> 00:08:58,500 Speaker 2: What store is it at? I can go get it. 222 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: Please, don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 223 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:11,949 Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 224 00:09:12,010 --> 00:09:15,150 Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashawn McDonald. 225 00:09:15,870 --> 00:09:18,310 Speaker 2: And so, when I did that, man, I did, I 226 00:09:18,350 --> 00:09:20,910 Speaker 2: started seeing the need for inspiration. 227 00:09:21,090 --> 00:09:22,270 Speaker 1: Right. Right. 228 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:24,660 Speaker 2: I would go to single-cell conferences and I started seeing 229 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,620 Speaker 2: people just say, I don't know what I'm going. 230 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: To do, man. 231 00:09:27,059 --> 00:09:29,370 Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know if I'm going to live 232 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,970 Speaker 2: past this. I said, who told you that? 233 00:09:32,230 --> 00:09:36,650 Speaker 1: So when they talk about stereotypes, you were told at 234 00:09:36,670 --> 00:09:39,730 Speaker 1: seven you wouldn't live past 11. So there are adult 235 00:09:39,770 --> 00:09:43,870 Speaker 1: people or people in their 20s have that same death. 236 00:09:44,210 --> 00:09:45,290 Speaker 2: Yeah, that whole thing. 237 00:09:45,309 --> 00:09:46,470 Speaker 1: I'm going to die mentality. 238 00:09:46,590 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to die. 239 00:09:47,530 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: Which means that they don't foresee a future. 240 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: No. No, a lot of them feel like I'm just 241 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,290 Speaker 2: going to be this. But then We went on this 242 00:09:56,330 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: journey on Living Your Life, the podcast. 243 00:09:58,850 --> 00:09:59,230 Speaker 3: Oh, okay. 244 00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: And I started finding that. 245 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:03,020 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk it through. Living Your Life, what exactly 246 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: is it? You said it's a podcast. 247 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: Okay, it's a podcast. 248 00:10:05,370 --> 00:10:05,660 Speaker 1: I do. 249 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:10,150 Speaker 2: It's about, you know, it's about the community of Secret Sale. 250 00:10:10,770 --> 00:10:13,860 Speaker 2: It's about the lifestyle that we have. Mm-hmm. It's about 251 00:10:13,890 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: the doctors. It's about the people who have foundations like myself. 252 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: It's about the inspiration. It's about motivating. It's about finding 253 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: out really who you are in the sickle cell community. 254 00:10:24,420 --> 00:10:28,420 Speaker 2: And you'll find a lot of people who are dealing 255 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: with the same thing and have the same like-mindedness that 256 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: I do about sickle cell, which is like, hey, have 257 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,660 Speaker 2: you guys seen this? That'll take away the whole woe 258 00:10:37,740 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: is me and all this. Look what they're doing. I mean, 259 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: people have their own foundations at 17. Young people have 260 00:10:44,170 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 2: CBOs at 20. They're all teaching somebody something. They're all 261 00:10:51,140 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: working together. And that's what I enjoy. I even just 262 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,219 Speaker 2: hear across the world. 263 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so your podcast is not a domestic only podcast. 264 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,990 Speaker 2: No, because Sickle Cell is not a domestic. I don't 265 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,690 Speaker 2: think about Sickle Cell as just an American issue or 266 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:11,190 Speaker 2: a black issue. It's a global issue. 267 00:11:11,210 --> 00:11:11,410 Speaker 3: Wow. 268 00:11:12,210 --> 00:11:14,410 Speaker 2: It's the first issue of mankind. 269 00:11:14,950 --> 00:11:15,270 Speaker 1: Uh-huh. 270 00:11:15,330 --> 00:11:16,110 Speaker 2: It was sickle cell. 271 00:11:16,350 --> 00:11:16,670 Speaker 3: Uh-huh. 272 00:11:17,010 --> 00:11:19,650 Speaker 2: That's a blood disorder. Mm-hmm. You know, blood cells are 273 00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:23,610 Speaker 2: shaped like half sickles. That's the first issue in mankind's history. 274 00:11:23,809 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: So why would I limit it to black people? 275 00:11:25,550 --> 00:11:25,750 Speaker 1: Right. 276 00:11:26,130 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: I found out that Asians have sickle cell. Oh. I 277 00:11:29,820 --> 00:11:30,900 Speaker 2: found out Swedish people. 278 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: That's a stereotype. 279 00:11:31,660 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 280 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,740 Speaker 1: That we have that basically sickle cell in the United States, 281 00:11:36,179 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: there's a black person, African-American. Yeah, it's African-American disease. 282 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:40,300 Speaker 2: No, it's not. 283 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: Uh-huh. 284 00:11:41,110 --> 00:11:45,809 Speaker 2: No, it's not. South Africans, they have sickle cell. It's global. Iran, 285 00:11:46,370 --> 00:11:47,110 Speaker 2: the Middle East. 286 00:11:47,170 --> 00:11:48,229 Speaker 1: Middle East. Okay. 287 00:11:48,530 --> 00:11:52,470 Speaker 2: You know, you got Europe. There's sickle cell is everywhere. 288 00:11:54,030 --> 00:11:59,170 Speaker 2: So why I'm going to treat this like an American 289 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,820 Speaker 2: issue when it's a global issue? 290 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,700 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. So the words, 291 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: you have sickle cell disease, right? 292 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:06,010 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 293 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: So are all sickle cell disease the same? 294 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,430 Speaker 2: None. No, no, no. 295 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:10,910 Speaker 1: Educators. 296 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:15,470 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're not all the same. Everybody has what 297 00:12:15,490 --> 00:12:20,670 Speaker 2: they call hemoglobin, right? So my type is SC, okay? 298 00:12:21,330 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: That's my globin type, SC. Some other people may have 299 00:12:25,220 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: type SS. Some other people may have another type, fatal thalassemia. 300 00:12:30,340 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: There's so many of them. It doesn't matter your type. 301 00:12:33,620 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 2: The one thing we're all affected by is pain. We're 302 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:40,990 Speaker 2: all affected by... Issues with spleen. 303 00:12:41,210 --> 00:12:41,610 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 304 00:12:41,850 --> 00:12:44,929 Speaker 2: You know, we're all affected by it. It doesn't matter. 305 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:48,089 Speaker 2: If we have a sickle cell, you're affected by the stereotypes, 306 00:12:48,350 --> 00:12:50,950 Speaker 2: the mental health. Right. You know, all of these things 307 00:12:50,970 --> 00:12:56,370 Speaker 2: that you've been fighting daily. Right. You know, if you 308 00:12:56,390 --> 00:12:59,590 Speaker 2: go to the hospital, another stereotype that we have is 309 00:12:59,610 --> 00:13:01,270 Speaker 2: that when we go to the hospital and we're in pain, 310 00:13:02,010 --> 00:13:02,950 Speaker 2: call us drug seekers. 311 00:13:03,270 --> 00:13:03,610 Speaker 1: Wow. 312 00:13:04,250 --> 00:13:06,810 Speaker 2: You know, and I'm in there to be treated just 313 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:07,670 Speaker 2: like anybody else. 314 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:08,070 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 315 00:13:08,750 --> 00:13:11,140 Speaker 2: But no, they say, well, he's only in here because 316 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,380 Speaker 2: he wants opioids, so he's a drug seeker. And that'll 317 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:15,850 Speaker 2: mess with him. 318 00:13:15,860 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: And you're in the middle of a crisis. 319 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,220 Speaker 2: I'm in the middle of a crisis, yeah. And that 320 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,970 Speaker 2: will really mess with your mind growing up because, well, 321 00:13:23,990 --> 00:13:27,469 Speaker 2: they just won't treat me like they treat everyone else. 322 00:13:28,330 --> 00:13:30,209 Speaker 2: And so you start seeing that in a lot of 323 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:32,089 Speaker 2: people as well. Like, they won't give me the drugs 324 00:13:32,170 --> 00:13:32,530 Speaker 2: I need. 325 00:13:32,650 --> 00:13:33,410 Speaker 1: I won't get the care. 326 00:13:33,790 --> 00:13:35,890 Speaker 2: So now we have to go advocate for this person. 327 00:13:36,580 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: Now we're going to talk on their behalf. 328 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: Right. 329 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,100 Speaker 2: They say, hey, y'all are doing an injustice to this person. Now, 330 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,620 Speaker 2: you have people who have, when they were not treated, 331 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,500 Speaker 2: sometimes they end up dying. 332 00:13:47,940 --> 00:13:48,450 Speaker 1: Wow. 333 00:13:48,830 --> 00:13:52,130 Speaker 2: Because they don't have the care. Because a doctor or 334 00:13:52,150 --> 00:13:54,990 Speaker 2: a nurse said, I don't believe you. Right. You say 335 00:13:55,010 --> 00:13:57,890 Speaker 2: you're a pain of 10. You can't look like pain. 336 00:13:58,410 --> 00:14:02,740 Speaker 1: So your whole thing with your foundation is about motivation. 337 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,660 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 338 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:06,140 Speaker 1: Ending medical ignorance. 339 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: Yes. 340 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:12,010 Speaker 1: And... stigmas that lead to stereotypes that's exactly right and 341 00:14:12,050 --> 00:14:15,620 Speaker 1: i guess the bigger thing is that turning people into 342 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: who have sickle cell disease into. 343 00:14:17,260 --> 00:14:21,220 Speaker 2: Dreamers yes that's a big part of it you know 344 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,940 Speaker 2: and and and now now what you're doing now what 345 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: you're doing now matt what you just described is what 346 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,700 Speaker 2: um is what our logo says working to change the 347 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,869 Speaker 2: shape of sickle cell so you know the the The 348 00:14:35,890 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: thing what you just described is what we're working to do. 349 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: Now you start to see that, like our logo says, 350 00:14:41,260 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: we're working to change the shape of sickle cell. 351 00:14:43,580 --> 00:14:45,020 Speaker 1: The shape of sickle cell. 352 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: It's the perception. See, all those things take to change 353 00:14:49,260 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: the perception of sickle cell. And that's what we work towards. 354 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:53,460 Speaker 2: That's what we do. 355 00:14:53,980 --> 00:14:57,940 Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about your impact. You know, you're the 356 00:14:57,980 --> 00:15:00,980 Speaker 1: big mega horn, the Steve Aubrey Morning Show. You're born 357 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,340 Speaker 1: and raised in Houston, Texas. 358 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,660 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 359 00:15:03,340 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: And. 360 00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: The state of Texas recognized your work, correct? 361 00:15:07,980 --> 00:15:10,300 Speaker 2: Yes, they did. About five years ago, they gave me 362 00:15:10,340 --> 00:15:14,340 Speaker 2: a state proclamation, which I'm very proud of. Being from Texas, 363 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:18,110 Speaker 2: your state recognized you. That's a big deal, man. They 364 00:15:18,250 --> 00:15:21,190 Speaker 2: actually gave me an entire month called Kears Hope Sickle 365 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:24,550 Speaker 2: Cell Awareness Month in the month of June. And that 366 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,290 Speaker 2: will live on forever. And that's when I knew I 367 00:15:27,330 --> 00:15:30,330 Speaker 2: was making an impact. That's when I actually saw it. 368 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,860 Speaker 1: That led to races, I think charity races or fundraising 369 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: races or brand awareness races for Sickle Cell, correct? 370 00:15:39,540 --> 00:15:42,580 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's for Sickle Cell. It's a fundraiser. But the 371 00:15:42,660 --> 00:15:45,350 Speaker 2: point of it is to get the community to get 372 00:15:45,390 --> 00:15:48,110 Speaker 2: behind and come out here and find out exactly what 373 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:48,910 Speaker 2: Sickle Cell is. 374 00:15:49,390 --> 00:15:49,690 Speaker 1: Uh-huh. 375 00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:52,210 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a race, yes. But you need to 376 00:15:52,270 --> 00:15:54,390 Speaker 2: see that these people will come and walk for them. 377 00:15:54,830 --> 00:15:55,130 Speaker 1: Uh-huh. 378 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:56,030 Speaker 2: They'll run for them. 379 00:15:56,220 --> 00:15:56,410 Speaker 3: Uh-huh. 380 00:15:56,860 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: I don't care if you ride your bike for them. 381 00:15:58,700 --> 00:16:00,780 Speaker 2: You just need to understand that these are people too, 382 00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: and they're part of our community. And so when the 383 00:16:03,220 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: state of Texas gave me that proclamation, and my grandmother 384 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:06,859 Speaker 2: was allowed to see it. 385 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 386 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,410 Speaker 2: That's where it lives. It lives in her home. I 387 00:16:10,430 --> 00:16:12,430 Speaker 2: don't even have it at my house. It's at her home. 388 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:16,250 Speaker 2: The original is in the state capitol, but the replica 389 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:18,290 Speaker 2: is in her home of the proclamation. 390 00:16:18,350 --> 00:16:22,850 Speaker 1: Congratulations. Because of that, you have a race. You have 391 00:16:23,050 --> 00:16:24,570 Speaker 1: annual races that you do. 392 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:24,970 Speaker 2: Yeah. 393 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:26,359 Speaker 1: Tell us about those races. 394 00:16:26,620 --> 00:16:29,479 Speaker 2: Well, we do that in Dallas. And I'm going to 395 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: do one here in Atlanta. What we do with those 396 00:16:32,220 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: races is the funds that we raise, the money I raise, 397 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 2: I go do junior cloth in a different city every year. 398 00:16:39,220 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: And what I do is I try to- Do a 399 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: race in Dallas. I do a race in Dallas. And 400 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: then a race in Atlanta. I'm going to do a 401 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,540 Speaker 2: race in Atlanta. And so I've done them. I've done 402 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:52,540 Speaker 2: them in Memphis. I've done the giveaway Junior Clause in Dallas. 403 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: I've done it in- Okay, what exactly is Junior Clause? 404 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,460 Speaker 2: Junior Clause is the fun thing I get to do- 405 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,740 Speaker 2: For kids. For kids and families. You know, because sickle 406 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,350 Speaker 2: cell affects not just the person with sickle cell, but 407 00:17:06,369 --> 00:17:09,330 Speaker 2: the entire family unit. Because see, when a person with 408 00:17:09,350 --> 00:17:12,330 Speaker 2: sickle cell goes into the hospital, then mom, dad got 409 00:17:12,350 --> 00:17:15,250 Speaker 2: to take off. Brothers and sisters have to come down there. 410 00:17:15,930 --> 00:17:19,100 Speaker 2: We're losing income in the home. It affects a lot 411 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:22,689 Speaker 2: of things. So what I do is I take care 412 00:17:22,710 --> 00:17:23,970 Speaker 2: of the entire family's Christmas. 413 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:26,189 Speaker 1: Right. 414 00:17:26,350 --> 00:17:28,830 Speaker 2: I take the funds that we raise. I'll go to 415 00:17:28,869 --> 00:17:31,830 Speaker 2: a city. Like this year, it's going to be Norfolk. 416 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:34,300 Speaker 2: I got a few elves up there. I'm going to 417 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,260 Speaker 2: go help me do this. And I'm going to take 418 00:17:37,260 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: 10 families. 419 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: Norfolk, Virginia. 420 00:17:39,740 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: Norfolk, Virginia. And I'm going to take 10 families and 421 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,730 Speaker 2: we're going to buy a Christmas for them. Because... In December, 422 00:17:49,150 --> 00:17:51,570 Speaker 2: sickle cell patients have a hard time with cold weather. 423 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:56,530 Speaker 1: How are these families selected, these sickle cell families? These 424 00:17:56,650 --> 00:18:01,379 Speaker 1: are teens or young kids who are impacted by the 425 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: sickle cell disease. 426 00:18:02,580 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: Right. And what I do is I work with an 427 00:18:05,460 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: organization down there who's already in the community, who already 428 00:18:07,859 --> 00:18:11,810 Speaker 2: knows these families, and we'll screen them. We'll talk to them. 429 00:18:11,990 --> 00:18:14,990 Speaker 2: We'll find out what their needs are, what they really want. 430 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: You know, I try to give them Christmas because at 431 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,420 Speaker 2: any moment, they could go end up in the hospital. 432 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,830 Speaker 2: And I've been in the hospital and I woke up 433 00:18:21,890 --> 00:18:24,770 Speaker 2: on Christmas, and it's no fun. Right. And so, you know, 434 00:18:24,810 --> 00:18:27,030 Speaker 2: we'll go there. We'll have lunch. We'll have a lunch 435 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:30,190 Speaker 2: or brunch there. We'll have Santa Claus there. He'll be there. 436 00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:31,869 Speaker 2: And I bring Santa with me. 437 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:32,310 Speaker 1: He comes. 438 00:18:33,050 --> 00:18:35,060 Speaker 2: And we pass out the toys, and you get to see. 439 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:36,700 Speaker 1: Santa out there working for the kids. 440 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,660 Speaker 2: Santa out here working for citizens. You know, he cares. 441 00:18:39,740 --> 00:18:41,699 Speaker 2: So we do all of those things, man, and it's 442 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,010 Speaker 2: just a way that I give back. And I try 443 00:18:45,050 --> 00:18:47,750 Speaker 2: to show my concern and let the families know that 444 00:18:47,869 --> 00:18:50,490 Speaker 2: I'm here for you, too. And I'm busy. That's another 445 00:18:50,510 --> 00:18:52,050 Speaker 2: way we just motivate and we inspire. 446 00:18:52,609 --> 00:18:55,189 Speaker 1: Now, the very popular Living Your Life podcast, like you 447 00:18:55,210 --> 00:18:59,220 Speaker 1: told us earlier, is worldwide. It's not a domestic show. 448 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,340 Speaker 1: You can see the episodes on YouTube. I went online 449 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: and I saw likes, 12,000 likes on some of your posts. 450 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: But you're not doing that show by yourself. Who is 451 00:19:08,740 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: your co-host? 452 00:19:09,619 --> 00:19:12,770 Speaker 2: Oh, my co-host is Dr. Corey Abare, Chief Medical Officer 453 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 2: at Dillard. 454 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,340 Speaker 1: University. 455 00:19:14,380 --> 00:19:17,740 Speaker 2: He is really into, he's been working in this area 456 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: for a very long time. So he understands patients, a 457 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,379 Speaker 2: doctor from a patient's perspective of sickle cell because he 458 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,220 Speaker 2: studies it. He understands that we have to make some 459 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:31,550 Speaker 2: changes and we have to get registered and get tested 460 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,810 Speaker 2: to find out if you have the sickle cell trait, 461 00:19:35,590 --> 00:19:39,330 Speaker 2: which can lead to people like me. And I know 462 00:19:39,350 --> 00:19:41,950 Speaker 2: a lot of people who may not know that they 463 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,060 Speaker 2: have the trait and they don't understand that one day 464 00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:48,470 Speaker 2: you could possibly have a me. And I'm talking about 465 00:19:48,490 --> 00:19:50,620 Speaker 2: at seven years old, somebody's probably going, to tell them 466 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: their life will be already 11. And what I'm trying 467 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:55,619 Speaker 2: to do is let you know is that that's not 468 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: going to have to be your truth. Your truth can 469 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:00,219 Speaker 2: be whatever you want it to be. Right. And that's 470 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: what we work on Living Your Life with Dr. 471 00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: Corey Abay. Cool. So just trying to track on your 472 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,990 Speaker 1: business schedule. Steve Harbaugh on the show. 473 00:20:08,030 --> 00:20:08,230 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 474 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Living your life. 475 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 476 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:12,460 Speaker 1: Motivational podcast, YouTube show. 477 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Yes, sir. 478 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,580 Speaker 1: Okay. Foundation, Cure's own foundation. 479 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,899 Speaker 2: Yes, sir. 480 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: 5K races. 481 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:18,020 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 482 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:20,699 Speaker 1: One in Dallas, one in Atlanta, Georgia. 483 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:21,070 Speaker 2: Yes, sir. 484 00:20:21,310 --> 00:20:24,330 Speaker 1: And then Junior Clause. Yes, sir. Where you, toys are 485 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:25,770 Speaker 1: donated to your foundation. 486 00:20:25,869 --> 00:20:26,060 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 487 00:20:26,190 --> 00:20:30,130 Speaker 1: And you distribute these toys to kids impacted, and families 488 00:20:30,270 --> 00:20:34,150 Speaker 1: impacted by the sickle cell disease. Yes, sir. That's your schedule. 489 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: That's how you're changing the community. 490 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,020 Speaker 2: Okay. 491 00:20:36,650 --> 00:20:38,070 Speaker 1: Can you do something else? 492 00:20:38,109 --> 00:20:38,470 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 493 00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: Are you that busy? I'm so happy to hear that you, 494 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,580 Speaker 1: instead of sitting around just being a success, that you 495 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: are motivated to change people's lives. What's the future of you, 496 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: and what advice would you give to somebody who wants 497 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,619 Speaker 1: to start a foundation? 498 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:01,239 Speaker 2: My advice, if you want to start a foundation, is 499 00:21:01,260 --> 00:21:03,810 Speaker 2: go do it. See, the longer you think about it, 500 00:21:03,820 --> 00:21:06,450 Speaker 2: the time is slipping. Mm-hmm. And then when the time 501 00:21:06,510 --> 00:21:09,500 Speaker 2: is slipping, we can't get our goals. Mm-hmm. And so 502 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 2: if you're actually thinking about doing this, I would suggest 503 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,659 Speaker 2: you really go ahead and do it because, first of all, 504 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,580 Speaker 2: you need two things. You need some empathy and you 505 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: need some motivation. 506 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:20,140 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 507 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,850 Speaker 2: Those two things. If you can understand a person's plight. 508 00:21:23,369 --> 00:21:23,689 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 509 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:26,690 Speaker 2: And it drives you to say, I want to change 510 00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:30,190 Speaker 2: something for that person. Mm-hmm. It don't have to be 10,000. Mm-hmm. 511 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:33,190 Speaker 2: But if you do it 10,000 times once, it's 10,000. Mm-hmm. 512 00:21:35,050 --> 00:21:38,429 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be in masses. I did this 513 00:21:38,450 --> 00:21:40,619 Speaker 2: for a number of years and accumulated the people that 514 00:21:40,660 --> 00:21:42,900 Speaker 2: we had. That's what I did. 515 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: Awesome. If you have a minute, I want to share 516 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: something with you. Walmart Business Plus has a surprise for you. 517 00:21:50,540 --> 00:21:52,530 Speaker 1: For me? Yes, sir. And your foundation. 518 00:21:53,050 --> 00:21:53,369 Speaker 2: Really? 519 00:21:53,530 --> 00:21:57,070 Speaker 1: Yes. Before we wrap up the conversation, Walmart Business has 520 00:21:57,090 --> 00:22:00,430 Speaker 1: a little surprise for you, Junior, and your foundation, Kears Hope, 521 00:22:00,850 --> 00:22:03,330 Speaker 1: because of the work you're doing in the community. They're 522 00:22:03,350 --> 00:22:06,770 Speaker 1: setting you up with a six-month Walmart Business Plus membership, 523 00:22:07,010 --> 00:22:10,310 Speaker 1: so that's free shipping and limited-time offers on products for 524 00:22:10,369 --> 00:22:16,449 Speaker 1: business owners and foundations like yours with 2% rewards on purchases. 525 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:19,850 Speaker 1: You get 2% rewards back on purchases over $ 250. Oh, man. 526 00:22:19,869 --> 00:22:22,649 Speaker 1: And you're getting a $ 1, 000 e-gift card to spend on 527 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: whatever you need All you have to do is go 528 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: to business.walmart.com with that $ 1, 000 e-gift card. I know you've 529 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:36,980 Speaker 1: got the race coming up in Dallas, the race coming 530 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,700 Speaker 1: up in Atlanta, and I know you've got the Junior Clause. 531 00:22:40,660 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: Hopefully this will help you out. 532 00:22:42,010 --> 00:22:43,270 Speaker 2: It will help me out. 533 00:22:43,290 --> 00:22:44,350 Speaker 1: Congratulations, brother. 534 00:22:44,590 --> 00:22:45,469 Speaker 2: Thank you. 535 00:22:46,210 --> 00:22:47,350 Speaker 1: Give me your life. 536 00:22:47,470 --> 00:22:48,810 Speaker 2: Oh, man. 537 00:22:48,930 --> 00:22:49,930 Speaker 1: Proclamation. 538 00:22:49,970 --> 00:22:51,909 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I'm doing right now. I'm 539 00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:53,190 Speaker 2: going to go to Walmart right now. 540 00:22:56,580 --> 00:22:59,719 Speaker 1: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversations Masterclass 541 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: hosted by me, Rashawn McDonald. Thank you to our guests 542 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: on the show today and thank you, our listening audience. Now, 543 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:08,410 Speaker 1: if you want to listen to any episode or want 544 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:12,670 Speaker 1: to be a guest on the show, visit MoneyMakingConversations.com. Our 545 00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:16,250 Speaker 1: social media handle is Money Making Conversations. Join us next 546 00:23:16,290 --> 00:23:18,550 Speaker 1: week and remember to always lead with your gifts. 547 00:23:19,020 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 3: Keep winning.