1
00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:06,000
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

2
00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,200
Speaker 2: I am Rashwan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass,

3
00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,320
Speaker 2: where we encourage people to stop reading other people's success

4
00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:14,160
Speaker 2: stories and.

5
00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,440
Speaker 1: Start planning their own.

6
00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,520
Speaker 2: Listen up as I interview entrepreneurs from around the country,

7
00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,600
Speaker 2: talk to celebrities and ask them how they are running

8
00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,520
Speaker 2: their companies, and speak with God prophets who are making

9
00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,560
Speaker 2: a difference in their local communities. Now, sit back and

10
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,680
Speaker 2: listen as we unlock the secrets to their success on

11
00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,800
Speaker 2: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome to Money Making Conversation master Class.

12
00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,600
Speaker 2: I'm your host of the show, Rashaan McDonald. We're down

13
00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,480
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta to meet the one and only Ker

14
00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,280
Speaker 2: Junior Spates, one of the stars of the popular radio

15
00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,000
Speaker 2: show called Steve Harvey Morning Show. He's a plan down here,

16
00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,279
Speaker 2: a plan to change the lives of people who are

17
00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,080
Speaker 2: affected by sickle sale disease. He has the disease, but

18
00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,240
Speaker 2: he wants to let you know it can't stop you

19
00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,680
Speaker 2: from dreaming. He is a podcast, he is a foundation calls.

20
00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,760
Speaker 2: Here's hope. Now you'll be able to hear his story

21
00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,720
Speaker 2: and why he's changing the game and while the community

22
00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,399
Speaker 2: is being impacted by his personal efforts. Please don't go

23
00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,320
Speaker 2: to where we're about to meet the one and only

24
00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,080
Speaker 2: Here Junior Space.

25
00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm Kurreed, Junior, States founder of Kure's Hope Foundation.

26
00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,920
Speaker 2: I'm here in Atlanta, Georgia with the one and only

27
00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:24,840
Speaker 2: Kier Junior Space.

28
00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,520
Speaker 1: How you doing? Yeah, dude, I get up every morning.

29
00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,000
Speaker 3: Dude?

30
00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,680
Speaker 1: Well good.

31
00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,600
Speaker 2: How do you feel to be a part of an

32
00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,679
Speaker 2: engine like that that has been It changes the community,

33
00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280
Speaker 2: and you're also personally changing the community. Tells your backstory

34
00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,959
Speaker 2: about the Steve Hard Morning Show?

35
00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,320
Speaker 1: You know I can. I met Steve in La back

36
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,120
Speaker 1: in uh two thousand and one, and then I got

37
00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,360
Speaker 1: a phone call uh saying, Hey, you want to go

38
00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,440
Speaker 1: and roll with Steve in two thousand and nine. Then

39
00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,480
Speaker 1: went down to Miami open up for him. Got another

40
00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,760
Speaker 1: phone call, Hey you do any of this weekend Philly?

41
00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,240
Speaker 1: And I was trying to figure out how come they

42
00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,360
Speaker 1: keep calling? Who all said no to find me? Who

43
00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,160
Speaker 1: was not famous? Nobody loves just a comedian. A lot

44
00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,760
Speaker 1: of people had been the way before we get to meet. Well,

45
00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,760
Speaker 1: I'm so glad he did find me. And mister Harvey

46
00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:19,560
Speaker 1: is a is a very powerful influence or a lot

47
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,880
Speaker 1: of young comedians, you know, including myself. So then you know,

48
00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,560
Speaker 1: I get a call twenty eleven, Hey man, I want

49
00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,400
Speaker 1: to talk to you about changing uh, not just your life,

50
00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,400
Speaker 1: but your not your career, but your life. And that

51
00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,839
Speaker 1: call came from Rashean McDonald's I'll never forget that day, man,

52
00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,200
Speaker 1: And it was just so much to learn, you know.

53
00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,000
Speaker 1: You know, I did not know a lot of the

54
00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,920
Speaker 1: things that I didn't know as a comedian because I

55
00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,600
Speaker 1: wasn't taught the right way, and all I was just

56
00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,679
Speaker 1: really working off of was pure talent, right, that's all

57
00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,600
Speaker 1: I had. You know, Now I learned the actual business

58
00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,560
Speaker 1: of comedy, the business of radio. And then you put

59
00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,120
Speaker 1: all those things together, and you have a disease in

60
00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,880
Speaker 1: mister Harvey. And I said a case it on my

61
00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,400
Speaker 1: show and not have a cause. And that's how I

62
00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,359
Speaker 1: started my foundation.

63
00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,760
Speaker 2: Here's hope, here's hope, Yes, sir, that was foundation that

64
00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,280
Speaker 2: you mess him in two thousand one, on the road

65
00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,480
Speaker 2: with him in two thousand and nine.

66
00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,320
Speaker 1: What year did you start your foundation?

67
00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:24,680
Speaker 2: Two thousand and twelve, twenty twelve, thirteen, twenty thirteen, And

68
00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,800
Speaker 2: that was his cause, he said, sitting on the radio

69
00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,360
Speaker 2: show with a cause for the community, the community, but

70
00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 2: you have a bigger cause because you actually have sickle

71
00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,360
Speaker 2: cell disease.

72
00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,480
Speaker 1: Yes, you know. The thing about that man is uh

73
00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,920
Speaker 1: they they told me at seven that it was over.

74
00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,280
Speaker 1: My parents didn't know over what do you get me, like,

75
00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000
Speaker 1: my life was over, It's down, gonna die. It's seven,

76
00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:49,840
Speaker 1: it's seven. They told me it's seven, that I only

77
00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,520
Speaker 1: have to live till eleven years old. And you know,

78
00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,360
Speaker 1: I think about the pressure that it puts on my

79
00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 1: parents because they really thought my son, my first my

80
00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,600
Speaker 1: son won't make it past eleven years old, and he's

81
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,840
Speaker 1: already seven. And I was only diagnosed as seven. So

82
00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,760
Speaker 1: I mean that's seven years of my parents not knowing

83
00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,400
Speaker 1: what is actually wrong with my child, right, and you

84
00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,040
Speaker 1: know it's crazy batically in and out of the hospital,

85
00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:18,360
Speaker 1: in and out of the hospital really really. Right after

86
00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,400
Speaker 1: about when I was diagnosed, I understood. And then because

87
00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,960
Speaker 1: I was so active as a child, I went back in,

88
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,039
Speaker 1: back in, out, in and out the hospital. So you know,

89
00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,760
Speaker 1: probably in the year I probably have like like four

90
00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,040
Speaker 1: or five visits. That's extremely high. Wow, you know, for

91
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,159
Speaker 1: for for a kid. You know, that's a lot of

92
00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,400
Speaker 1: medication you put inside of a kid. And so that

93
00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,560
Speaker 1: that got me to thinking about and really find out

94
00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,640
Speaker 1: who are out here has six sels, right, because at

95
00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,479
Speaker 1: my school, I don't only want I know about the

96
00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,680
Speaker 1: sick seal community, yes, you know, and I when I

97
00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,039
Speaker 1: said school, I was the only one that I knew

98
00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,279
Speaker 1: it had sixl cell. But I wanted to find out

99
00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000
Speaker 1: who's all into this community and who doing tho positive

100
00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:05,000
Speaker 1: things in this community? You know, who are the people

101
00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,520
Speaker 1: who are all out here with six so just like me,

102
00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,240
Speaker 1: but don't believe that life is over because they got

103
00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,560
Speaker 1: diagnosed for something that they could kill them, right, you know.

104
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:20,039
Speaker 1: And so I took that eleven years old real personal, right,

105
00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,680
Speaker 1: you know. I made that my number number eleven. I

106
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,760
Speaker 1: was playing sports, don't play athletics. I played that letter.

107
00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,080
Speaker 1: I play football, played basketball, ran track, and they told

108
00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,320
Speaker 1: me that you want to live ass eleven. So I

109
00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,800
Speaker 1: took that personal that my life can be. It's just

110
00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,680
Speaker 1: as great as anyone else is with anything, just because

111
00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,480
Speaker 1: I have civil sell and you stereotype me as if

112
00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,000
Speaker 1: I had to go with eleven years old. I didn't

113
00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,440
Speaker 1: want to die left it. Nobody does, right, you know,

114
00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,320
Speaker 1: And so that was a hard thing for me to accept,

115
00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,320
Speaker 1: so I took it personal. I wanted to be the

116
00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,320
Speaker 1: best football player I could be. I want to be

117
00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,479
Speaker 1: the best basketball player I could be. I want to

118
00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,560
Speaker 1: show you on the track. I'm gonna show you how

119
00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 1: fast people with sickle cell really are.

120
00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,159
Speaker 2: But the ignorant of circle seal, yes, sidetracked your sports career.

121
00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,000
Speaker 1: It did. A team doctor came that year and my

122
00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,039
Speaker 1: senior year. I have been in this program for at

123
00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,080
Speaker 1: least five years. I'm playing for this one school and

124
00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,200
Speaker 1: they have a new team doctor. And in another player

125
00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,880
Speaker 1: on the team said, hey, doc, he has sickle cell.

126
00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,640
Speaker 1: That's this. Take him off team right now. That's all

127
00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,800
Speaker 1: it was. No, no, no, let's go find out how

128
00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,000
Speaker 1: we can help him play football. None of that doctor says, no, no,

129
00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,440
Speaker 1: he has sickle cell. Take him off. Wow. And let

130
00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,560
Speaker 1: me tell you this is in my senior year. Scholarship

131
00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:43,839
Speaker 1: scholarships are on the line, and you snatched me that

132
00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,680
Speaker 1: that that, that whole moment made me understand that I

133
00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,159
Speaker 1: don't want this to happen to another person with sickle cell.

134
00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I don't want this to nobody have this feeling. And

135
00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,520
Speaker 1: I've made a promise to myself that I would never

136
00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,360
Speaker 1: let single cell rob me of another thing. And that's

137
00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,279
Speaker 1: why I said, I choose to live my life life

138
00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,520
Speaker 1: when it a way that I want other people supiciss say, Man,

139
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm inspired right, look what he's doing. So your foundation

140
00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:13,080
Speaker 1: is about motivation, is inspiration. It's by motivation inspiration. It's

141
00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,920
Speaker 1: about showing people that your life can be just as

142
00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:18,480
Speaker 1: amazing if you just dreaming.

143
00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,800
Speaker 2: Cool now, twenty thirteen, that's when you started the foundation.

144
00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,400
Speaker 2: How does one start a foundation? Now that that that's

145
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,240
Speaker 2: a great idea, But how does one start a foundation?

146
00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, I call some people who had foundations. It adds

147
00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,320
Speaker 1: to them mentorship, Yeah, mentorship, and you know they they

148
00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,480
Speaker 1: went down there and actually filled out all the paperwork

149
00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,400
Speaker 1: for me and they brought me back the approval that

150
00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,160
Speaker 1: I had a five O one C three And man,

151
00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 1: I would write to work. I mean, because I had

152
00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,120
Speaker 1: no idea you understand, you know, starting something like that

153
00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,440
Speaker 1: and you've never done it because I'm just a comedian.

154
00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't know you know all the rules and laws.

155
00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not down there, I said, man, but

156
00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,920
Speaker 1: I won't it, you know, because I was working with

157
00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 1: another foundation and they it just didn't really want to

158
00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,600
Speaker 1: do what I wanted to do. Didn't They didn't have

159
00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,600
Speaker 1: the vision, okay, And so I said, okay, why not

160
00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,840
Speaker 1: just go to start my own? Yeah. So it's important

161
00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,400
Speaker 1: when you talk about the secrets to your success. If

162
00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,520
Speaker 1: you have a vision.

163
00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,240
Speaker 2: And it's not being shaped, and it's being shaped in

164
00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,480
Speaker 2: a different direction, then you should take control.

165
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,840
Speaker 1: You gotta take control of it. Yeah, that's that's one

166
00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 1: thing about is that what I had in vision for

167
00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,280
Speaker 1: for people with sickle cell was not theirs, right, And

168
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,600
Speaker 1: so yeah, I took the I took it. I took

169
00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,480
Speaker 1: it on personally and say, okay, I tell you what

170
00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,240
Speaker 1: if you don't like the idea that I have, because

171
00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,000
Speaker 1: why are we still in the state that we're still in?

172
00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,839
Speaker 1: How come everybody feels the way they feel about civil cell?

173
00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,000
Speaker 1: They don't know anything about it. Everybody get to look

174
00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,120
Speaker 1: on their fath what else? What is I thought? They

175
00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:54,160
Speaker 1: here at that? No? No, because I'm still here right still.

176
00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,640
Speaker 1: Let me know when you hear about it that what

177
00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,560
Speaker 1: stow is it that I go? Get it?

178
00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,840
Speaker 3: Please don't go any We'll be right back with more

179
00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:11,959
Speaker 3: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making

180
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,199
Speaker 3: Conversations Masterclass. Hosted by Rashaan McDonald And so.

181
00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,959
Speaker 1: What I did that, man? And then I started seeing

182
00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,840
Speaker 1: the need for inspiration right right. I would go to

183
00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,280
Speaker 1: see with soul competence, and I start seeing people just say,

184
00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know what I'm gonna do, man, I

185
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,120
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna live past this. And I said,

186
00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,040
Speaker 1: who told you that?

187
00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,480
Speaker 2: So when you talk about stereotypes, yeah, you were told

188
00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:38,240
Speaker 2: the seven you wouldn't live past eleven.

189
00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

190
00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,760
Speaker 2: So there are adult people or people in their twenties

191
00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,400
Speaker 2: have that same depth. Yeah, that that whole thing I'm

192
00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,240
Speaker 2: going to die mad talent, I'm gonna die, which means

193
00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,920
Speaker 2: that they don't foresee a future.

194
00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,400
Speaker 1: No. Now, a lot of them feel like I'm just

195
00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,280
Speaker 1: going to be this. But then we went on this

196
00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,400
Speaker 1: journey on living your life the podcast Oh okay, and

197
00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000
Speaker 1: I started finding out I'm giving you, Like, what exactly

198
00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,280
Speaker 1: is you said, it's a podcast, Okay, it's a podcast

199
00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,480
Speaker 1: I do. It's about you know, it's about the community

200
00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,560
Speaker 1: of Sickle Cell. It's about the lifestyle that we have.

201
00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,640
Speaker 1: It's about the doctors. It's about the people who have

202
00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,320
Speaker 1: foundations like myself. It's about the inspiration. It's about motivating.

203
00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,360
Speaker 1: It's about finding out really who you are in the

204
00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,720
Speaker 1: self community. And you'll find a lot of people who

205
00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,240
Speaker 1: are dealing with the same thing and have the same

206
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,120
Speaker 1: like mindedness that I do about sickle cell, which is like, hey,

207
00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,440
Speaker 1: have you guys seen this? That'll take away the whole

208
00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 1: war was me and all. Look what they's doing. I mean,

209
00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,080
Speaker 1: people have their own foundations. At seventeen, young people have

210
00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,480
Speaker 1: CBO you know CBOs at twenty. You know, they're all

211
00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,559
Speaker 1: they're all teaching somebody something. They're all working together. And

212
00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 1: that's what I enjoyed when I find out not even

213
00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,240
Speaker 1: just hear across the world. Okay, so your podcast is

214
00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,600
Speaker 1: not a domestic take all les, no, because single cell

215
00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,360
Speaker 1: is not as domestic. You know, I don't think about

216
00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,680
Speaker 1: sickle cell as just an American issue or black issue.

217
00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:14,400
Speaker 1: It's a global issue. Wow, it's the first issue of mankind.

218
00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,280
Speaker 1: It's sickle cell. That's a blood disorder. You know, blood

219
00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,320
Speaker 1: cells are shaped like half sickles. That's the first issue

220
00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,320
Speaker 1: in mankind's history. So why would I limit to black people.

221
00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,880
Speaker 1: I found out that that that Asians have sickle cells.

222
00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,800
Speaker 1: I found that stereotype.

223
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically sickle cell in the United States. That's

224
00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,160
Speaker 2: a black black versons of African American American.

225
00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,520
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not South Africans who they

226
00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:48,240
Speaker 1: have single cell. It's global. I read the Middle East. Okay,

227
00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:54,199
Speaker 1: you know you got Europe that single cellers everywhere. So

228
00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:59,199
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna treat this like a like an American

229
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,960
Speaker 1: issue when it's a globe is wire. So let me

230
00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:02,680
Speaker 1: ask you this question.

231
00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,040
Speaker 2: So the words you have sickle cell disease, right, So

232
00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,160
Speaker 2: all sickle cell disease the same.

233
00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, educator is yeah, No, they're not

234
00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,680
Speaker 1: all the same. Everybody has a globe what they call

235
00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,680
Speaker 1: a hemoglobin, right, So my my type is s C. Okay,

236
00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,280
Speaker 1: that's my global type SC. Some other people may have

237
00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,880
Speaker 1: uh type s S. You know that some other people

238
00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,120
Speaker 1: have another type fatal falsima is. It's so many of them.

239
00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter your type. The one thing that we're

240
00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:39,760
Speaker 1: all affected by is pain. We're all affected by uh

241
00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,600
Speaker 1: issues with spleen. You know, we're all we're all affected

242
00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,720
Speaker 1: by It doesn't matter if we have sickle cell. You're

243
00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,000
Speaker 1: affected by the stereotypes of the mental health, right. You

244
00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:54,160
Speaker 1: know all these things that you've been fighting, uh deity right,

245
00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,640
Speaker 1: you know if if if you if you go to

246
00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,720
Speaker 1: the hospital at Another stereotype that we have is that

247
00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,320
Speaker 1: go to the hospital and we're in pain, call us

248
00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,120
Speaker 1: drug seekers. Wow, you know, and I'm I'm in there

249
00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,760
Speaker 1: to be treated just like anybody else. But no, they said, well,

250
00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,560
Speaker 1: he's only in here because he wants to open use.

251
00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,560
Speaker 1: He's a he's a drug seeker. And that will mess

252
00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,840
Speaker 1: withsi millle of a crisis and that that will help.

253
00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,200
Speaker 1: That will really mess with your mind growing up, because

254
00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,600
Speaker 1: why they just won't treat me, you know like they

255
00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,760
Speaker 1: treat everyone else. And then so you start seeing that

256
00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,440
Speaker 1: in a lot of people as well, like he won't

257
00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,400
Speaker 1: give me the drugs I need, I won't get the care.

258
00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,960
Speaker 1: So now we have to go advocate for this person.

259
00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,160
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna go talk on They be had to say, hey,

260
00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 1: y'all are doing an injustice to this person. Now, you

261
00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720
Speaker 1: you have people who have when they will not treat it,

262
00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,679
Speaker 1: sometimes they end up dying wow, because they don't have

263
00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,120
Speaker 1: the care. Because a doctor or a nurse said, I

264
00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,559
Speaker 1: don't believe you. You say you're pain at tend you know,

265
00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:57,920
Speaker 1: you can't look like pain.

266
00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,480
Speaker 2: So your whole thing, which you're findudation, yeah, is about

267
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:09,439
Speaker 2: motivation absolutely, ending medical ignorance. Yes, and stigmas that lead

268
00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,199
Speaker 2: to stereotachs.

269
00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,640
Speaker 1: That's exactly right.

270
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,320
Speaker 2: And I guess the bigger thing is that turning people

271
00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,000
Speaker 2: into who have sickle cell disease into dreamers.

272
00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,080
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a big part of it, you know, and

273
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,880
Speaker 1: and and and now now what you're doing. Now, what

274
00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600
Speaker 1: you're doing now, Matt, what you just described is what

275
00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,160
Speaker 1: is what our logo says, working to change the shape

276
00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,800
Speaker 1: of sickle cell. So you know what I mean, the

277
00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,480
Speaker 1: thing what you just described is what we're working to do.

278
00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,240
Speaker 1: Now you start to see that. So like our logo said,

279
00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,440
Speaker 1: we're working to change the shape of sickle cell. The shape, Yeah,

280
00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,480
Speaker 1: we see that. That's the perception. See, all those things

281
00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,560
Speaker 1: take to change the perception of cycle cell. And that's

282
00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,400
Speaker 1: what we work towards. That's what we do.

283
00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,880
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about your impact. You know, you're a

284
00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,320
Speaker 2: big mega horn the Steve R.

285
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,600
Speaker 1: Morning Show. You're born and raised in Houston, Texas, Yes, sir,

286
00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:08,200
Speaker 1: and the state of Texas, Texas recognized your work, correct, Yes,

287
00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,920
Speaker 1: they did about five years ago. They gave me a

288
00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,200
Speaker 1: state proclamation, which I'm very proud of being from Texas,

289
00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 1: and your state recognized that's a big deal. Many they

290
00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,160
Speaker 1: actually gave me an entire month called Here's Hope Sickle

291
00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,160
Speaker 1: sell Aware this month in the month of June, and

292
00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,240
Speaker 1: that will live on forever. And that's when I knew

293
00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,360
Speaker 1: I was making an impact that this now as he saw.

294
00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,200
Speaker 2: It, then lived to races for the charity. Races are

295
00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:39,280
Speaker 2: fundraising races or a brand awareness a racist for sickle cells.

296
00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeahret it's for Sickle Seal. It's a fundraiser. But the

297
00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,400
Speaker 1: point of it is to get the community to get

298
00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,560
Speaker 1: behind and see it. Come out here and find out

299
00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,160
Speaker 1: exactly what sickle Seal is. I mean it's a race, yes,

300
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,600
Speaker 1: but you need to see that these people will come

301
00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,720
Speaker 1: and walk for them, they will run for them. I

302
00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,760
Speaker 1: don't care if you ride your bike for them. You

303
00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,960
Speaker 1: just need to understand that these are people too, and

304
00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,360
Speaker 1: they're part of our community. And so when the State

305
00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,040
Speaker 1: of Textas gave me that proclamation and my grandmother was

306
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,800
Speaker 1: allowed to see it, Wow, that's where it lives and

307
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,160
Speaker 1: is in her home. I don't even have it at

308
00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,960
Speaker 1: my house, it's at her home. The original is in

309
00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,200
Speaker 1: the state capital, but the replica is in her home

310
00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,240
Speaker 1: of the proclamations. Congratulations.

311
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,840
Speaker 2: Now because of that, you have a race. You have

312
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,480
Speaker 2: annual races that you do. Yeah, tell us about those races.

313
00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,520
Speaker 1: Well, we do that in Dallas, and I'm gonna do

314
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:32,560
Speaker 1: one here in Atlanta. What we do with those races

315
00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,120
Speaker 1: is the funds that we raise. The money I raise.

316
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,560
Speaker 1: I go do junior clause in a different city every year.

317
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:40,760
Speaker 1: And what I do is I try to do race

318
00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,160
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I do a raising Dallas and then race.

319
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,680
Speaker 1: And I felt like, I'm gonna do racing in Atlanta.

320
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,400
Speaker 1: And so I've done them. I've done them in Memphis.

321
00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,560
Speaker 1: I've done it to give away junior clause in Dallas.

322
00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:57,160
Speaker 1: I've done what exactly is junior clause Junior clause. It's

323
00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,280
Speaker 1: the fun thing I get to do for kids, for

324
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,440
Speaker 1: kids and families, you know, because sickle cell effects not

325
00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,600
Speaker 1: just the person with sickle cell, but the entire family unit.

326
00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,280
Speaker 1: Because see when a person with sickle cell goes into

327
00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,240
Speaker 1: the hospital, then mom, dad got take off, brothers, sister

328
00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,240
Speaker 1: have to come down there. We're losing income in the home.

329
00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,000
Speaker 1: It affects a lot of things. So what I do

330
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,120
Speaker 1: is I take care of the entire family. Is Christmas, right,

331
00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,680
Speaker 1: I take care. I take the funds that we raise.

332
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,400
Speaker 1: I'll go to a city like this year is gonna

333
00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,959
Speaker 1: be Norfolk. I got a few abs up there. I'm

334
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,119
Speaker 1: gonna go, Okay, help me do this, and I'm gonna

335
00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,280
Speaker 1: take ten families Norfolk, Virginia, Northfolk, Virginia, and I'm gonna

336
00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,040
Speaker 1: take two families or ten families and buy We're gonna

337
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:50,320
Speaker 1: buy Christmas for them because in December, sickle cell places

338
00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,600
Speaker 1: to have a hard time with cold weather. So how

339
00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:54,719
Speaker 1: these families is elected?

340
00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,399
Speaker 2: These sickle cell families, These are teens, a young kids

341
00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,320
Speaker 2: who are impacted by.

342
00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,359
Speaker 1: The sickle cell disease. Right. And and what I do

343
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,600
Speaker 1: is I work when an organization down there who's already

344
00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,920
Speaker 1: in the community. He knows these families, and we will

345
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,560
Speaker 1: screen them, We'll talk to them, We'll find out what

346
00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,040
Speaker 1: they really what their needs are, what they really want.

347
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 1: You know, I try. I try to give them Christmas

348
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 1: because at any moment they could go end up in

349
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,720
Speaker 1: the hospital. And I've been in the hospital and woke

350
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,280
Speaker 1: up on Christmas and it's no fun, right, And so

351
00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, we we'll go there, we'll have lunch. We'll

352
00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,560
Speaker 1: we'll have a lunch or brunch of there, or we'll

353
00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,160
Speaker 1: have Santa Claus there. He'll be there and I bring

354
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,040
Speaker 1: Santa with me. He comes and pass out the toys

355
00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,159
Speaker 1: and you get to see sand out the working for

356
00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,720
Speaker 1: the kids, stand out here working for civil self. You

357
00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,400
Speaker 1: know he care. So we do all of those things, man,

358
00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 1: And it's just a way that I give back and

359
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 1: I try to show my concerns and let the families

360
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 1: know that I'm here for you too, and I'm Business's

361
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:50,640
Speaker 1: another way.

362
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,520
Speaker 2: We just motivate and we inspire. Now, the very popular

363
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:57,160
Speaker 2: Libty and Life podcast, like you told us earlier, is worldwide.

364
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,560
Speaker 2: It's not a domestic show. You can see them see

365
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,680
Speaker 2: the episodes on YouTube. I went online that I saw

366
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,719
Speaker 2: likes twelve thousand likes on some of your posts. But

367
00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,879
Speaker 2: you're not doing that show by yourself. Who is your

368
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 2: co host?

369
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh? My co host is doctor Corey Abert and chief

370
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 1: medical officer at Dillard University. He is really into He's

371
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,640
Speaker 1: been working in this area for a very long time,

372
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,760
Speaker 1: so he understands patients from a doctor, from a patient's

373
00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: perspective of sickle cell because he stunts it. He understands

374
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,879
Speaker 1: that we have to make some changes and when we

375
00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,640
Speaker 1: have to get registered and get tested to find out

376
00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 1: if you have the sickle cell trade, which can lead

377
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: to people like me and I know a lot of

378
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 1: people who may not know that they have the trade

379
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,719
Speaker 1: and then understand that one day you could possibly have

380
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,359
Speaker 1: of me. And I'm talking about at seven years old.

381
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Somebody's probably gonna tell them their life will be already eleven.

382
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: And what I'm trying to do is let you know

383
00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:56,760
Speaker 1: is that that's not It happens to be your truth.

384
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: Your truth can be whatever you want to be right,

385
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 1: and that's what we work on. Living your Life at

386
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: doctor Corey Abert Cool.

387
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 2: So just trying to track of your business schedules. Have

388
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,280
Speaker 2: Steve Harror on this show? Yes, uh, Living your Life? Yes,

389
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: a motivational podcasts YouTube show. Yes, Okay, Foundation, here's so foundation.

390
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.

391
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 2: Five k races, Yes, sir, one in Dallas, one in Atlanta, Georgia, Yes, sir,

392
00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,320
Speaker 2: And then junior clause, yes sir. Well you toys are

393
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 2: donated to your foundation and you distribute these toys to

394
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 2: kids impact and families impacted by the sickle cell disease. Yes, sir,

395
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 2: that's your schedule. That's how you're changing the community. Or

396
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 2: keep you do something else?

397
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 3: Sir?

398
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: Are you that busy?

399
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 2: I know, I'm so happy to hear that that you

400
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,719
Speaker 2: sit around just being a success, that you have motivated

401
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 2: to change people's lives. What's the future you And what

402
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 2: advice would you give to somebody who wants to start

403
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 2: a foundation?

404
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: Uh? My, My advice if you want to start a

405
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: foundation is go do it. See the longer you think

406
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: about it, the time is slipping. And when the time

407
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: is slipping, we can't get our goals. And so if

408
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 1: you actually thinking about doing this, I would suggest you

409
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 1: really go ahead and do it, because first of all,

410
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: you need two things. You need some empathy and you

411
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: need some motivation those two things. If you can understand

412
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: a person's plight and it drives you to say I

413
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: want to change something for that person, it don't take

414
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: it don't have to be ten thousand, But if you

415
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: do it ten thousand times, once it's ten thousand, doesn't

416
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 1: have to be in masses. I did this for a

417
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: number of years and accumulated the people that we have.

418
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: That's what I did awesome.

419
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: If you have a minute, I want to share something

420
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 2: with you. Walmart Business Plus as a surprise for you

421
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: for me, yes, sir, and your foundation, really yes. Before

422
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: we wrap up the conversation, Walmart Business has a little

423
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: surprise for you, junior and your foundation years old. Because

424
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,639
Speaker 2: of the work you're doing in the community. They're setting

425
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: you up with a six month Walmart Business Plus membership.

426
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: So that's free shipping and limited time offers on products

427
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 2: for business owners and foundations like yours, with two percent

428
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 2: rewards on purchases.

429
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: You get two percent awards back on purchases over two

430
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars.

431
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh man, and you're getting it one thousand dollars E

432
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 2: gift card to spend on whatever you need. All you

433
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: have to do is go to business dot Walmart dot

434
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: com with that one thousand dollars E gift card. I

435
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: know you got the race coming up, man, Gallas, the

436
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: race coming up in Landing, and I know you've got

437
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 2: the junior class.

438
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: Hopefully this will help you out, it will help me

439
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: out graduations. Thank you, man. I can't your life. Oh man,

440
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Let me tell you what

441
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: I'm doing right now. I'm gonna go to Little More

442
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: right now.

443
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,120
Speaker 2: This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass

444
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 2: by me Rashaun McDonald. Thank you to our guests on

445
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 2: the show today and thank you for listening to audience now.

446
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: If you want to listen to any episode I want

447
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 2: to be a guest on the show, visit Moneymakingconversations dot com.

448
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: Our social media handle is money Making Conversation.

449
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 2: Join us next week and remember to always leave with

450
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: your gifts.

451
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: Keep winning.