1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the Sticks on a Friday, DJ, Bucky 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: with you, Buck? 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: What's going on? N Man? Really exciting. DJ just just 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: excited to see all these playoff games to GOTS football 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: National Championship is is Monday. That's an exciting time. And 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: beginning to dig into some of these prospects, having conversations 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 2: talking to people about some of these guys. And Yeah, 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: I think we kind of kicked off a little thing 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: last week when we talked about the wide receivers and 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison and some of these guys. I think there 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: are a lot more people that are in that camp. Dad. 14 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a clear cut like it 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 2: sounds good. I don't know if it's all clearcut at 16 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 2: the wide receiver spot like many of us envisioned. So 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: it should be fun. 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it really is. We talk about this 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: every year with the wide receivers. To go back to 20 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: that real quick, it is it's ice cream, shot man, 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: It's what flavor you want? 22 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: What are you looking for? 23 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: Want? You want? You want a big vertical guy? 24 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: You want? 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: You want a fifty to fifty guy you want to 26 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: run after catch. Gadget guy, like, what do you what 27 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: do you want? 28 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: We got it. We got everything in all the flavors. 29 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 2: And to me, it's just amazing the way that we 30 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: now talk about wide receiver position, because man, we I 31 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: just remember a time in the league when we were 32 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: scouting like it never was viewed as like the marquee spot. 33 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: But now it is pivotal, almost essential that you have 34 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: to have a dude or dudes on the perimeter to 35 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: be able to do it. Now that makes sense because 36 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: the league has really become a quarterback driven league, so 37 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: the people around the quarterback really matter. But wide receivers 38 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: and the number of young wide receivers that are having 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: success and impacting the game, whether they're top picks, whether 40 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: they're mid round picks like a Pooka Nakua. It just 41 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: has changed the way that we talk about the position, 42 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the way we scout the position, the way we prioritize 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: the position in the team building process. 44 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: All right, well before we get to uh, we're going 45 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: to get to the National Championship preview. But just that's 46 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: an easy transition here because we can talk about the 47 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: other side of the ball, which is the corner position. 48 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I spent the last couple of days rolling through these. 49 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: Now I got a ton more to watch, but you know, 50 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: you start off with a group of guys given to 51 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: you by friends in the league. Of these are kind 52 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: of the top guys, so I tried to watch as 53 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: many of those as I could. So where I stand 54 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: right now buck on the corner position, and going through 55 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: those the last couple days again, you know, I knew 56 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: some reputation about some guys, but it sounded like, okay, 57 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: there's no top, top, top guys in this draft at 58 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: the corner position. To me, the best one is from Alabama, 59 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: but it's not the one that people have been talking 60 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: about as much. Terry and Arnold, to me, I think 61 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: is the best corner in the draft. I put a 62 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: big grade on him man, and he is. He is tough, 63 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's big, he's fast, he can recover. You know, 64 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: he's a former safety. He hasn't even played the position 65 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: that long, so I think there's even more. There's more 66 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: ahead of him, there's more growth there. But you know, 67 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: aware he's got I think he had five picks. He 68 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: doesn't miss tackles, so I'm kind of like, I hear 69 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff about how there's no premier corners in 70 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: this draft, and I'm like, well, okay, big, fast, tough, 71 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: productive instinctive. I'm like, this get's pretty dang good man, 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: He's really good. 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that position changes it. And I also 74 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: think like the way that we look at it in 75 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: the scouting world, like everybody wants the Dion type, the 76 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: Charles Woodson type. I would call it the mythical shutdown corner. 77 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if that shutdown corner really exists. I 78 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: think you're better served to look at the guy who 79 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: has a very complete toolbox, who is scheme friendly, meaning 80 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: he has to be able to play man and zone. 81 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: He can press, he can play inside, outside. Yeah, he 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: has awareness, he has the IQ to be able to 83 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: play multiple spots in the secondary. Because the nickel position, 84 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: contrary to popularly, it's the most difficult one because there's 85 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: a lot that you're asking him to do. And then 86 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: DJ like the last part of it, but maybe the 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: biggest part. In today's game, you have to be a 88 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: great Yes, you can't tackle. If you can't tackle, it's 89 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: a death Noel right now, at defensive back like you 90 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: cannot play. I'm looking at, uh, the Cardinals and the Eagles, 91 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: and the Eagles can't stop the Cardinals running game. Yeah 92 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: they were weak up front, but their dbs can't get 93 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: people down. They can't make basic tackles, basic one on one, 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: line them up, get them down, least see them take 95 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: a proper angle, know which shoulder to put the runner 96 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: on because of the leverage, none of those things. If 97 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 2: that defensive back that you're looking at, if he cannot tackle, 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: they find him. They find him in the league. Now, DJ, 99 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 2: if that guy is though, oh, I'm gonna playoff for 100 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: eight yards, but he has a reputation for not tackling, 101 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna raise up and throw the smoke out to 102 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 2: the wide receiver and they're going to make him tackle. 103 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: Deebo saying, Deebo Samuel one on one and if you 104 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: can't get it done, it becomes a huge play. It 105 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: is just look, man, tackling is important. It'll be funny 106 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: because we're gonna be on TV and we're going to 107 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: have to talk about DB's tackling as some of the 108 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: deciding factors between who stacks up on the board. It 109 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: is that important. 110 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: Now today's game, I feel like you used to be 111 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: able to fly a million years ago. You just hand 112 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: them the ticket and they let you through and you 113 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: get on the airplane and then all of a sudden, hey, 114 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: I need to see your ID like to me like 115 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: that's like, uh yeah, come on, you can cover? 116 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: Come on? 117 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Wait, hold on? Can you tackle? I can you tackle? 118 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Hold on? 119 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have that. Well, you can't get 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: on the plane. Then you can't get in. You can't 121 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: get in here. 122 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: Those are all plane And as more teams are using 123 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: these high pressure schemes that mix man and zone because 124 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 2: everyone is going to look at Baltimore and all this 125 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: other stuff and they're common and nominated with Baltimore's defense. 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: They can tackle, but the guys can play with vision 127 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: on the quarterback so they can see it, react to it, 128 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: break quickly. Man, if you're Zhone Coner, you've got to 129 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: be a great tackler. You cannot be a zone corner 130 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: that can't tackle. We can't put you on the field. 131 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: And if you're a man de man, you got to 132 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: be able to tackle in the space because if you 133 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: missed the tackle, it becomes a touchdown. All of those 134 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: things all of those things matter. Yeah, DJ, physicality tackling 135 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: all that other stuff is going to be a bigger 136 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: thing for DB's And you're right about Arnold. Here's the 137 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: thing about Arnold the story that floated, it kind of 138 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: floated on social media when he was talking about getting 139 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: chewed out, Yeah, and Nikki screaming. He's looking around like, man, 140 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: he's going on to me. But it's an underrated quality 141 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: when it comes to guys who can take hard coaching 142 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: and I mean like very intense, very detailed coaching without 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: it rattling their cage where they can't respond to it. 144 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: It's one of the things, DJ, that we talked about 145 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: a scouts. I don't know if you still can do 146 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: it because of all the hr things. You remember how 147 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 2: we talked about what you respond to. But it's the 148 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: best kind of coach. Is it a teacher, Is it 149 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: a guy that's hard in your face or whatever? In 150 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: the league, you now have to know that because you 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: got to know what kind of guys you're bringing in, 152 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: and you also have to know like what kind of 153 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: coaches do I have and how are they going to 154 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: respond to the type of coaches or coaching that we 155 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: do in our program because everybody can't again do it. 156 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 2: A lot was made of the Russell Wilson Sean Payton thing, 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: but look at that stylet was more prevalent and more 158 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: common in football, and so how do guys respond to that? 159 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: So Karen Arnold not only has all those other things, 160 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: but I think the mental ability and his football character 161 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: really allows you to fall in love with And I 162 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: would say this like kool aid on the other side 163 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: is a really good place. They got a good place. Second, Yeah, no, 164 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 2: no question. But Saron Arnold is is different because of 165 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: the versatility and all the different things that he adds. Yeah. 166 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I was a fan of his second on my list 167 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: in terms of grades. And again, well well we'll go 168 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: through the whole process. This is just again just off 169 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the tape here. Quinnon Mitchell or Quinyan Mitchell. I don't 170 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: know exact Hary Pounce's first name, but Toledo I didn't 171 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: know much about him. I just was given his name, 172 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: but he was you know, he has official numbers from 173 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: the spring when when guys went through their six TOZHO 174 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: four four three nine, And you can tell when you 175 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: watch him now when you get a chance to see 176 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: him train for he's gonna run in the low four threes. 177 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: He is twitched up, he is tough. Last year he 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,559 Speaker 1: had five picks, so he didn't see as much action. 179 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: But he still gets his hands on a bunch of football, 180 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: so don't have the pick production that he had previously. 181 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: But again, he's tough, he can mirror, he's got stop 182 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: start quicks. He's he's uh, he's I wouldn't say ultra 183 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: ultra fluidies and maybe a little little tight, but he 184 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: can trigger and close and he's he's got a really 185 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: really good knack for fine and playing the ball. And 186 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: he's got plenty of vertical speeds. So uh, he was 187 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the second one right behind him. I gave the same 188 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: grade this kid from Missouri. Uh enis Rey Castraw Ennis orchestra. 189 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 2: Do you know him? Buck? I never heard of him. Like, 190 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: that's one of those guys where I think he's one 191 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: of the ones to return. I think he also returns punts. 192 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: I think they have two they have two corners. They 193 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: have two corners. I have done the other one yet. 194 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because I was good, Yeah, because I have 195 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 2: seen Missouri play and I'm gonna say this, and we 196 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: knew this. For a long time, Missouri was always a 197 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: place where you could go get defensive players like they 198 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: used to talk about Mazoo made back in the day. 199 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: Gary Pinkel and those things say, drink has done a 200 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 2: really good job of kind of bringing that defensive reputation back. 201 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: They got really good players. The one thing that I 202 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 2: love when I watched Missouri players and the guys that 203 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: you talked about in the secondary DJ, we talked about 204 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 2: tackling and toughness. No, I watched the video of that dude. Man. 205 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: I mean, they come up, they smack, they tackle, they 206 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: look you dead in the eyes and hits you. Really 207 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: good players and look, I've been impressed. I'm really impressed 208 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 2: with both of those guys on the perimeter. So yeah, 209 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm with you on those guys. 210 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I put down a term that I hadn't used before, 211 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: and I hope it's not inappropriate, bucket, but I put 212 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: bh on here. He's got big hit energy, because yeah, 213 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: he has some big hits and he gets up and 214 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: he plays with life. And I like, to me, that's 215 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: a corner thing too. Not only you're not afraid to 216 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: put your face in there, but you also have there's 217 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: a juice and energy and a bounce, Like, to me, 218 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: that's all most of the best I've ever been around 219 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: they had that. 220 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny I had this conversation. Hopefully Dan Morgan 221 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 2: won't mind me sharing this, but a lot of what 222 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: we do when it comes to evaluating in shape by 223 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: either the guys that you scouted, the programs that you've 224 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: been with, the success that you've seen those teams have. 225 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: So I'm always kind of indebted to that Carolina Panthers 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: team two thousand and three, two thousand and four where 227 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: Dan Morgan was playing linebacker and we talked about linebackers 228 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 2: and we talked about like defense and what a defense 229 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 2: should look like and at his core, when you're evaluating players, 230 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: would you want that guy in your huddle? And so 231 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,680 Speaker 2: we talked about like guys tackling and toughness and bringing 232 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: the energy and DJ. You spend time in Baltimore, so 233 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 2: you know what great defense looks like. When you talk 234 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: about that guy having that kind of energy, it's easy 235 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: to say, oh, yeah, I could drop him in and 236 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 2: let him play with those guys. You can play with 237 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: that kind of team and he fits into like and 238 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: people will say culture is a buzzword that's overused, but 239 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: it's significant when it comes to the peer pressure that 240 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: goes along with playing on a great defense, because on 241 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: a great defense, to weak link is quickly exposed. And 242 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: so either you rise up to the way that everybody 243 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: else plays with the physicality and toughness, or typically dismissed. 244 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: And so that that energy that you talk about is 245 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: a very real thing and it's something that has to 246 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 2: be included into reports when you're evaluating these dbs. 247 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: The next two and again we'll go a lot deeper 248 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: on this as we get close to the draft. Just 249 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: want to give him a little taste here, Buck, But 250 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: the same grade on Cooper dejene from from Iowa and 251 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: kol Aid McKinstry from Alabama. So those guys were like 252 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: for me, those guys are traveling together and we'll see, 253 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: you know how that that sorts itself out. Uh, you 254 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: talked on on kool aid. Kool Aid is Uh is 255 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: someone who has you know, excellent excellent size. I think 256 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: he's he's a fluid mover. He just got on his 257 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: heels a little bit. Ad Ni Mitchell got after him 258 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: a little bit in the Texas game. Honestly, that was 259 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: one that I struggled with. I didn't think he was 260 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: quite quite as aggressive to contact as Arnold was. When 261 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: you're watching them, I thought he played a little more 262 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: hesitant against the run, kind of more of a rap 263 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: drag tackler, just trying and find a way to get 264 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 1: him on the ground. But can again, can really find 265 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: and play the ball. He's got good instincts down the field. 266 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: So I just thought there was times the tackling was 267 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: the thing that bothered me, And then I thought there 268 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: was sometimes in zone he got he got a little distracted. Iwise, 269 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: I think his I discipline was quite as good, quite 270 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: as consistent. 271 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the things that also factored into the 272 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: kool Aid evaluation. Uh. He also is a returner, but 273 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: he got replaced later in the year Caleb Downs, Josh 274 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 2: Dowell's younger brother, Gary Downs's son, freshman safety who was 275 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: all world down. He's gonna be another one. He replaced 276 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: him as a as a kicker, returner, pub returner. Late. 277 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: You talked about Arnold showing some other stuff, So kool 278 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: Aid had all of the buzz coming into the season. 279 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: Colored guys kind of stole that shine. The kid from 280 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Iowa is interesting because DJ, we talked about Iowa. 281 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: We've seen his basketball highlights, Buck. 282 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: I have not seen his basketball Google that, Google that. Yeah. 283 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: But the one thing that I do know about Iowa 284 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: having looked at a lot of the Iowa stuff, and 285 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: how you're trying to figure out, like, man, how can 286 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: a team like i would consistently play great defense year 287 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: after year after year systematic how they do it or whatever. 288 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: The thing that I know that you're getting from Iowa. 289 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: You getting guys who have high IQ's. They've been well taught, 290 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: they have really good technique, they do the things that 291 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: we talk about with the tackling and toughness, and then TJ. Man, 292 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: they just play the ball because they have so much experience, 293 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: like in zone covers, even though they will play Amanda Man, 294 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: They're just really good at playing the ball and they 295 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 2: do a good job. And when you think about the 296 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: last handful of guys that have come out of there, DJ, 297 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: Iowa has a lot of dbs that are floating around 298 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 2: the National Football League having no question, no question. Geno 299 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: Stone is Iowa guy, Like, they have a lot of 300 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 2: guys that have played Michael Hyde is Iowa Like. There 301 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: are a lot of Hawk guys that are playing. And 302 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: I know we don't scout the helmet that it certainly 303 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 2: does help. Yeah, it certainly does help when the resume 304 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: has that and you know what that program has produced 305 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 2: in the past. 306 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: One hundred percent, and you know where he next level 307 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: be interesting. It'll be a debate a little bit sticky, 308 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: uh in his in his plant and drive bucked is 309 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a pause there. But he is 310 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: he's he's physical, he's got a ton of playmaking to him, 311 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: and he's freaking fast. He is gonna test like a freak. 312 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: He watch his basketball highlights. He's gonna jump out of 313 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: the gym. I think he's a long jump champion. He's 314 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna you know, he's gonna he's gonna jump, he's gonna 315 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: run in the probably in the fourth three. He's like, 316 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: he's super super twitchy's super explosive. And I forgot one 317 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: name in here, as is going through my notes, Nate 318 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: Wiggins from Clemson is I gave him that same grade 319 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: as those three guys. So those three guys, to me, 320 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: I had Missouri Toledo and Terry Arnold from Alabama. Those 321 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: are the top three. And then this next group is 322 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: kind of all clumped together and it's a good group. 323 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's uh, Nate Wiggins is big and he 324 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: is fluid and fast. He can play the pocket. Again, 325 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: I think he was quite as aggressive and you kind 326 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: of see by my list and how I'm talking about 327 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: these guys, like the toughness in the tackling and the 328 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: want to has been that's been big. It gets bigger 329 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: for me every year, and it's been pretty telling, pretty 330 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: consistent of how those guys are translated in the next level. 331 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: That's a big deal man, more so than it's ever been. 332 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: So that was maybe a little bit of the knock 333 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: on him, but big and fast and fluid, it's a 334 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: pretty good place to start with that dude. 335 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that thing is going to be a 336 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: recurring theme. Like we'll talk about the individual characteristics of 337 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 2: all these positions, but I think there's going to be 338 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: this underlying thing that you have to have requisite toughness. 339 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: You got to tackle because we're seeing in this league 340 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: the tough teams are thriving, the teams have a reputation 341 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 2: for physicality and toughness in those things. Also, the tough players, 342 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: whether it's physical toughness or mental toughness. Those are the 343 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: guys that are kind of scratching out big time careers 344 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: and they're having a lot of success early. We don't 345 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: necessarily live in a world where we get around all 346 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: the players all the time to get all that information, 347 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: but as much as we can gather, man, that toughness 348 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: part of the evaluation is going to be big when 349 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 2: it comes to separate to who's and what's and where 350 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: they stack up on the board. 351 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that doesn't include you know, hitting the receiver 352 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: who's not looking. 353 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: No, that's not toughness. That's been a jerk, but that's 354 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: not toughness, like like to me, Yeah, to me, toughness 355 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: from for DBS is oh my gosh, Nick Chubb just 356 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: broke out. Uh as me and him one on one, 357 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: he is going to run me over, but I gotta 358 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: find a way to get him to the ground and 359 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 2: taking that that's that's to me, that's what oh man, guys, 360 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: can y'all slow him down? Right? But you take it 361 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: like that's to me, that's the toughness. You gotta throw 362 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: your body around and be willing to sacrifice. So here's been, 363 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: here's been. 364 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: My toughness litmus test is and I trying to think 365 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: of like a creative way to say it. But are 366 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: you okay with dancing? Or you wanna get dirty? In 367 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: other words, like when you're getting stock blocked? Are we 368 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: just gonna hang we? Hey, just kind of hang here? 369 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: Am I gonna hang here? Or I'm gonna violently get 370 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: off him? And I'm gonna urgently go get to the ball. 371 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Like you see it, man, you can see it clear 372 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: as day. Some guys are just hanging I'm just gonna 373 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: hang here. 374 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: I'm getting a blocked. I want to lay on the blocks. 375 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: I want to Yeah, yeah, man, So that that's like 376 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: my test is like I refuse to I refuse to 377 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 2: be blocked. And you'll see it. 378 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: Like I posted one of the Missouri kid against Georgia 379 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: tight end I think came out on him. He might 380 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: have been a guard popped him, gout underneath him and 381 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: went and made the tackle. I was like, Okay, that's 382 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: a want to an urgency there. 383 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: Doesn't want to, has taught his coach is demanded over 384 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: and over and over again, O defense coordinated lake on 385 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 2: the cunt of him. Always wanted to see his guys 386 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,479 Speaker 2: do not finish the play with the blocker's hands on you. 387 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 2: So you see all on tape. You see it, because 388 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 2: if it was on tape, he would highlight it. But 389 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: it's the attitude that you created. Guys. Man, You can't 390 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: get used to guys blocking. You get off the block 391 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: and get to the ball. 392 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 1: And we'll be back right after this break, All right, quickly, 393 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: Buck Championship game. We talked about it a ton the 394 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: other day. Let's just go with just who you like 395 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. We kind of previewed 396 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: it the other day. But when it's all said and done, 397 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: is it the explosive, high flying Washington Huskies or is 398 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: it the ground and pound Michigan Wolverines. 399 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: So I'm leaning towards Michigan, and I'm gonna say Michigan. 400 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 2: But the thing that scared me the clip that came 401 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: up and has been circulating when Michael Pennix and the 402 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: Board were Indiana and they kind of they kind of 403 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: beat Michigan up when they were together, and Michael Pennock 404 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: is thrown around, so it won't be new to him 405 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: seeing Michigan, even though they play a different style of defense. 406 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: In those things, that inside information I think is critical 407 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: because the way Michigan plays like the way they play 408 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: them DJ. If you haven't gotten used to it, I 409 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: think it takes you a while to get used to 410 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: their punching power. I think Washington will be well prepared 411 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: for that. They'll do that the skill players on the outside, 412 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 2: because the game is going to be one Michigan's DB's 413 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 2: versus Washington's wide receivers. If they are unable to stay 414 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: with those guys, Washington may run them out the building. 415 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go with Michigan just because I think 416 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 2: this team's toughness at the end of the day, what 417 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: they've overcome, all the things that they've done, they kind 418 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: of find a way. And I say that knowing I 419 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: could say the same thing about Washington. All those one 420 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: score games that they've played makes them prepared to get 421 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: into a thing. The only thing that I want from 422 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 2: this game, I want to see this game get into 423 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and I want the game decided in 424 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, where we get a good game, just 425 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 2: like those two other games were. I want to see that. 426 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 2: If I get that, I'm happy. 427 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it really is a toss up. I 428 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: might just lean on the other side and go Washington 429 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: just because if I think about Ohio State, who's the 430 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: best quarterback and passing game that they ever start? If 431 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: I think about Michigan, who's the best quarterback slash passing 432 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: game they face. Ohio State doesn't have the quarterback that 433 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: they've had in the past, and that game wasn't played 434 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: in a weather controlled environment. So this is in terms 435 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: of wide receivers, quarterback. They haven't seen what Washington has now. Washington, 436 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: on the other side, you can say, well, they haven't 437 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: seen the physicality of Michigan. Well yes, but no, Oregon's 438 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: pretty physical up front. They have linemen, they have backs, 439 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: they want to get after you upfront. That's a physical group. 440 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: So I think that that's the only that's the only thing. 441 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I think Oregon is a little closer to Michigan than 442 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: maybe what Ohio State was to Washington. So I'm gonna 443 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: lean Washington. 444 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 2: No, I can get that. And in these games we 445 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: talk about in playoffs, whatever it is, college, high school, whatever, 446 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: it comes down to quarterback play, Michael Pennix versus J. J. McCarthy, 447 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: who is going to make more plays If the Michael 448 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Pennix has showed up in the semi finals shows up 449 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: in the in the championship game, Washington is going to win. 450 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,719 Speaker 2: His experience played a bunch of games. Six year player 451 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 2: throw it around. I mean he was throwing darts. JJ 452 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: McCarthy play the best game that I've seen him play 453 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: in a while. He is going to have to outplay 454 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Michael Pennix and those guy to have a situations for 455 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: Michigan to. 456 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: Win, no doubt. All Right, I've terribly budgeted our time. 457 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: Buck Well, We've got Bucky's Coach's corner and an abbreviated 458 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: version here, and I'm looking down at the at the 459 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: list here, and you've got purpose driven today as the theme. 460 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 2: Okay, purpose driven. When we talk about purpose driven, everybody 461 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: has to have a purpose for why they're doing it. 462 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 2: Like you hear people explain it like what's your why. 463 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: We've talked to players about what's your why? Why do 464 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: you play? Why do you play the game? What is 465 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: it about this game that you love so much that 466 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 2: you're willing to do all the hard stuff that's necessary 467 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: to be a good player. I think that purpose is 468 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: not only individually as a player what keeps you around 469 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: the game, but as a coach and as a team, 470 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: why are we doing this. The best teams and I've 471 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: heard this recently from great coaches. They say, there's not 472 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: a great team that has won a championship that wasn't connected. 473 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: There's not You have to be connected, and the purpose 474 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 2: has to drive you so much that you're willing to 475 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 2: sacrifice your own ambitions for those of the team. And 476 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 2: when you play for one another, that goes and so 477 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: the team has to have a high purpose to accomplish 478 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: their goals. And then as a player, you have to 479 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: have a purpose that's beyond just the individual accolades and 480 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: the claim that you can get to play at a 481 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 2: high level. Why do you do this? And when you 482 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: have a bunch of guys that are kind of on 483 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 2: the same page when it comes to the purpose that 484 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: is driving the motivation behind the performance, then you have 485 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: an opportunity to do great things. 486 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: I think that's a great way to look at it. 487 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: I think to me, I look at it and say, 488 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: when you have purpose, then you have sacrifice. Right, So 489 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: if you have purpose, then nothing's going to get in 490 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: the way of why you're wanting to do something. So 491 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: in other words, what I want right now is sacrifice 492 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: for what I want most. The purpose you know, what's 493 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: the end goal here. So maybe this would be fun 494 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: for me even the moment, but it's going to put 495 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: me in jeopardy of my ultimate purpose. So purpose leads 496 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a sacrifice, which leads to success. And I think to me, 497 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: you have to have that star that you're looking at, 498 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: that focal point, and that's your purpose. 499 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and everybody has to understand it has to be 500 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: talked about all the time. You have to be willing 501 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 2: to kind of put all of the individual agendas and 502 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: egos aside to chase it as a team, because when 503 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 2: you go it together, you have an opportunity to go father, 504 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: you can't go far going along. 505 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, there you go. There's an abbreviated version 506 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: of Bucky's Coach's Corner that's going to do it for 507 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: us today. Reminder, we'll be back next week five episodes, 508 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: including Monday, which we will cobble together some conversation about 509 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: coaches unfortunately that are going to be moving on and 510 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: what new opportunities are presented as happens each and every 511 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: year at the end of the season. And we'll also 512 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: have the Senior bal Reveal Show Roster reveal Show, which 513 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 1: I believe is Tuesday. Don't know the time on that, 514 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: but that's coming next week as well, so we'll reveal 515 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: the rosters and what should be the best Senior Bowl 516 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: we've ever seen because of the inclusion of some underclassmen 517 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: for the first time. All right, that's going to do 518 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: it for us. 519 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. 520 00:23:38,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: We see you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.