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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Katty arm Strong.

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Speaker 2: And Jetty and now he Armstrong and Eddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm considering voting yes on DeSantis if he finally admits

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Speaker 3: that he has lifts in his boots.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he does.

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Speaker 3: I think three inches for inches at least.

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Speaker 4: That's a US senator and colleague of Marco Rubio, John

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Speaker 4: Fetterman of Pennsylvania saying he will vote for Marco Rubio

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Speaker 4: as Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: Ron de Santis.

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Speaker 4: N de Santis would vote for Ron DeSantis as Secretary

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Speaker 4: of Defense if he's nominated.

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Speaker 2: If he admits he has lifts.

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Speaker 1: In his boots Senator on Senator violence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if DeSantis would think that was

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Speaker 1: Definitely like the new Fetterman post stroke better than the

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Speaker 1: old one, yeah, which is no endorsement of that terrible

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Speaker 1: medical melody. But he sure is a different dude.

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Speaker 4: So we're not there yet that that Trump needs to

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Speaker 4: name DeSantis as the nominee for Secretary of Defense, because

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Speaker 4: you still have old Pete Hegseth in there. He hasn't

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Speaker 4: gotten out yet here's a little on the reporting on

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Speaker 4: that from Bill Malusion on Fox.

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Speaker 5: Heg Seth also met yesterday with Senator Roger Wicker. He's

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Speaker 5: the incoming chairman of the All Important Arms Services Committee.

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Speaker 5: Wicker says Hegseth pledged to him he would stop drinking

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Speaker 5: if he set death.

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Speaker 3: Issu was made about him being intoxicated several times, and

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Speaker 3: so the questions that everry member will be asking him led.

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Speaker 6: To and hekill Stuftrina altogether if he becomes secretaries exactly,

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Speaker 6: and then the rest of the allegations in the New

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Speaker 6: York article on the like.

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Speaker 3: How I will not I answered about that, and he

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Speaker 3: stated categorically they were untrue.

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Speaker 4: So I hadn't thought about that. If you're a big drinker,

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Speaker 4: you can very easily. I just finished reading Bob Woodward's

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Speaker 4: War Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense. You get phone

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Speaker 4: calls at two thirty in the morning and have to

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Speaker 4: make some serious decisions very quickly. You can't be drunk

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Speaker 4: and or hungover. So it's not just do you drink

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Speaker 4: during work hours, because your work hours are literally twenty

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Speaker 4: four to seven when your secretary Defense, right, So.

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Speaker 2: As Hegxsist said, he doesn't drink at all.

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Speaker 4: He told Megan Kelly yesterday, doesn't he's not an alcoholic,

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Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, he would.

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Speaker 1: Be willing to give up alcohol entirely during his stay.

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Speaker 2: As Pentagonchi, that's a good commitment.

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Speaker 1: As Senator Wickers said, you know, so, I thought a

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Speaker 1: couple of days ago his nomination was shakier than I

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Speaker 1: think it is today. And Goodness knows, it could go

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Speaker 1: either way. But he is absolutely manfully and intelligently saying this.

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Speaker 1: This is a manufactured takedown. I am not going to

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Speaker 1: admire him for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to hear that Wall Street Journal stuff

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Speaker 4: you have before you get to that. I think this

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Speaker 4: New York Times. Trump has made clear to people close

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Speaker 4: to him that he believes Hegseth should have been more

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Speaker 4: forthcoming about the problems he would face getting confirmed, according

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Speaker 4: to two people with knowledge of his thinking, So it's possible.

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Speaker 4: You know, you never know if this stuff's true or not,

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Speaker 4: but it's possible. Trump's like, God, God, dude, you gotta

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Speaker 4: let us know so he can be ahead of this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Possible Politico is reporting. Well, actually it's a quote from

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Speaker 4: Hegzz's lawyer, whose name parlatory, defended Hegzev's communication with the

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Speaker 4: tell him. Hegsat's lawyer said, it's not something you would

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Speaker 4: necessarily be expected to disclose. Were you ever falsely accused

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Speaker 4: of something that the police investigated and clear you of

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Speaker 4: That's not a question that comes up in any background check.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, I would, it kind of does. And that's

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Speaker 4: absolutely the sort of thing you would disclose. How many

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Speaker 4: non story. In my life, it's not worth you ever

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Speaker 1: Really, you don't follow politics much for one right, of course,

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Speaker 1: this is his attorney who also said that he wasn't

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Speaker 1: even the state for the alleged strip club incident where

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Speaker 1: with the dancers. Who knows what's true, but so one

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Speaker 1: the dynamic I've been aware of is that his current

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Speaker 1: They never sensed any problem. He never maltreated anybody, And

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Speaker 1: so I was surprised to see this headline Pete Hexast

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Speaker 1: drinking worried? Is Fox News colleagues, sources tell NBC News. Right,

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Speaker 1: So I went to this story that happened to be

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Citing ten current and former Fox News employees,

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Speaker 1: NBC News reported that on more than a dozen occasions

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Speaker 1: they smelled alcohol on him before he went on air.

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Speaker 1: They don't say what time of day or why he

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Speaker 4: Right, So those are unnamed Fox employees. Doesn't mean it

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Speaker 4: didn't happen. But Brian Kilmeat on Fox and Friends said,

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Speaker 4: we've all worked with Pete for fourteen years and none

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Speaker 1: That's what kill Meat said. I think it was yesterday

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Speaker 1: on Fox and Friends. So two of those people said

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Speaker 1: on more than a dozen occasions. But those same two

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Speaker 1: people who are not willing to put their names forward,

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Speaker 1: said that during his time there, he appeared on television

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Speaker 1: after they'd heard him mentioned being hung over. All right,

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Speaker 1: so he showed up to work slightly hungover and never

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Speaker 4: Well that gets the question I've been asking along. Shouldn't

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Speaker 4: we do you make a decision as a nation on

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Speaker 4: what our standards are for people that have some of

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Speaker 4: these jobs? Are you not allowed to go to strip clubs?

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Speaker 4: Are you not allowed to have affairs? Are you're not

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Speaker 4: allowed to ever be hungover? I mean that will have

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Speaker 4: eliminated a lot of people that like have statues in

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Speaker 4: parks for them in US history, Winston Churchill wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: Right, And, as one of our beloved listeners pointed it

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Speaker 1: out quite eloquently via email, this is really good. So

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Speaker 1: I want to mention his name. No, that's not it.

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Speaker 1: Uh never mind pointed out this stuff only runs one way.

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Speaker 1: Democrats always make like it's some big deal when a

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Speaker 1: guy was hung over once.

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Speaker 4: Oh, for god's sake, this bull shack And ask well,

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Speaker 4: I guess we have a clip about the strip club.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear this and I have a question.

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Speaker 1: So how do you respond to those reports?

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Speaker 6: All of those allegations are anonymous, All of them are unsubstantiated.

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Speaker 6: No one's putting their name on it. No one can

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Speaker 6: point to an actual incidence, an actual place, an actual

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Speaker 6: did this allegation come of me being in a strip club?

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Speaker 1: That's one of the things that is in Louisiana that

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Speaker 6: On the stage at a strip club. Where did this

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Speaker 6: incident at a strip club. Something happened that was addressed.

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Speaker 6: You were nowhere near there. You weren't even at the event.

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Speaker 6: You weren't even in the state. You're being accused of

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Speaker 6: something you weren't even at. So if they're making up

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Speaker 6: an instance of something where I didn't even attend, how

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Speaker 6: can you believe a single other thing that any of

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Speaker 4: Well, I assume that's one hundred percent true, because there's

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Speaker 4: pretty good point. If you're going to make those claims

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Speaker 4: you're claiming this happened, the rest of the stuff falls apart,

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Speaker 4: and then what do you think about the whole Brian Kilmead,

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Speaker 4: him on the weekends, saying, we've all all the people

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Speaker 4: on the couch, like the biggest stars of Fox, said,

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Speaker 4: we've worked for Pete for fourteen years and nobody's asked

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Speaker 2: What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Which is which is why I went to that headline

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Speaker 1: But no, it's two anonymous crackpots making ridiculous who cares allegations?

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Speaker 2: So did that answer your question?

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Speaker 1: Or I think yeah, the fact that everybody works with

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Speaker 1: But his piece in the Wall Street Journal Pete Hexas

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Speaker 1: back down. I look forward to an anonymous I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: to an honest confirmation hearing, not a press show trial

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Speaker 1: based on anonymous accusations, and he says on these pages,

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Speaker 1: eighteen years ago, I penned an article titled more Troops Please.

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Speaker 1: his work at Fox News. He says, where I saw

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Speaker 1: my work as a continuation of my mission to fight

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Speaker 1: for America again, and the legacy Press has used anonymous

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Speaker 1: through a lot combat tours, job changes, divorces and family challenges. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've always led with honesty, integrity, and passion. Tragically, many

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Speaker 1: the grace of God, I took another path. My Lord

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Speaker 1: and Savior, Jesus Christ is renewed and restored my life.

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Speaker 1: I am saved by his grace. The press is peddling

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Speaker 1: anonymous story after anonymous story, all meant to smear me

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Speaker 1: and tear me down. It's a textbook manufactured media takedown.

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Speaker 1: They provide no evidence, no names, and they ignore the

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Speaker 1: legions of people who speak on my behalf. They need

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Speaker 1: to create a boogey man because they believe I threaten

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I don't really have an opinion on pedd

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Speaker 4: Exit being Secretary of Defense or not, other than some

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Speaker 4: I've never thought about it before, but a courser is

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Speaker 1: Mood alteration when you take that sip is likely placebo

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Speaker 4: I've been aware of this from my drinking days. I

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Speaker 1: It can actually sharpen your vision too, which probably explains

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Speaker 2: I was the first guy who had to stop right anyway.

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Speaker 1: I don't have time to explain to you the metaphysics

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Speaker 2: Why do your bowels have an English accent? More to

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Speaker 8: Between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three junk fees alone

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Speaker 1: This is all.

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Speaker 8: Detailed in a multi year Senate study, and the chair

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Speaker 8: on tactics like dynamic pricing. Of course, the curtain is

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Speaker 8: then quickly closed by the first class flight attendant.

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Speaker 2: If you don't fly.

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Speaker 8: Delta one, you don't get to see Delta one. Now

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Speaker 1: Reminding me of how funny Colbert is when it's not

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Speaker 4: I think about that for ever when I'm in coach

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Speaker 1: That is really funny.

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Speaker 4: So Senator Josh Holly laid into the CEOs of the

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Speaker 2: Some of that coming eyes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so I thought this was so interesting. Getting

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Speaker 1: Your results may vary. All of us feel.

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Speaker 4: Strange rumblings below, and they point out they used to

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Speaker 4: because it doesn't me and not that you probably want

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Speaker 1: It never, it's never had, never been a correlation for me.

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Speaker 2: But wow, what's more interesting discussion we've ever had?

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Speaker 1: Only if you make it childish, well more than capable

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Speaker 2: What makes you poop? Katie?

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Speaker 2: Does coffee have it? Do you drink coffee?

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Speaker 1: Katie?

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if I paid attention, I do

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Speaker 4: you do? And does it have the effect on your

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Speaker 4: bowels that Joe's mentioning? No, now it doesn't perfect and

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Speaker 4: women don't do that.

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Speaker 2: Jack's right, women don't keep it that way.

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Speaker 1: That is that's an excellent point, Katie, thank you. Uh So, Anyway,

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Speaker 1: what's interesting is though coffee is a vasodilator, and I've

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Speaker 1: and all. But we all know that. So anyway, let's see.

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Speaker 4: Now, A long time ago, some radio doctor, I don't

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Speaker 4: Other than that, there's not really a problem. Still mostly

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Speaker 4: Who's going to wait an hour and a half for

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Speaker 4: their first sip of coffee after they get up?

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Speaker 2: Good lord?

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Speaker 1: This is said to help you avoid the dreaded mid

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Speaker 1: morning energy crash and cortisol spike which will affect your sleep.

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Speaker 1: Mind his own, damn kidding. We're agreed on that. So

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Speaker 1: complete change of topic here, Michael. We haven't played transition

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Speaker 1: music in a long time. Do you have something good

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Speaker 1: handy there at your fingertips? When we veer wildly from

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Speaker 1: topic topics, sometimes it helps to put the palt cleanse

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Speaker 1: the palate.

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Speaker 2: There we go. That's us. I ain't got no cigarettes.

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Speaker 1: That groove is just intoxicating. The great Roger Miller love

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Speaker 1: it anyway. This is certainly the co finalist for the

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Speaker 1: most important story any American could pay attention to. With

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Speaker 1: the you know, small group of stories about how China

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Speaker 1: is constantly attacking us. We're in a full on cold

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Speaker 1: war as they're hacking into our phone systems and stealing

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Speaker 1: our technology, and the America is lousy with Chinese spices.

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Speaker 1: But the other one is the problem going on right

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Speaker 1: now in France. Don't get hung up on the particulars

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Speaker 1: of parliament and prime ministers and presidents. And wait a second,

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Speaker 1: I thought Macrone was the president, but they have a

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Speaker 1: parliamentary system.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Well they just had a no confidence vote, essentially throwing

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Speaker 1: out their prime minister, even though he might stay in

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Speaker 1: office because of some of the rules and REGs. But again,

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Speaker 1: that's not the important part. The important part is this.

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Speaker 1: They are in complete political gridlock because they have overspent

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Speaker 1: their revenue so much and they are so saddled with debt.

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Speaker 2: And expensive interest.

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Speaker 1: Payments that they are going broke, and the measures it

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Speaker 1: would take to fix the problem are so politically unpopular.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing is crumbling and nobody knows what to do.

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Speaker 1: Nobody can form a coalition, nobody can get elected. Telling

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Speaker 1: the truth, France is nigh on screwed and we're about

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Speaker 1: two strides, you know behind them.

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Speaker 4: Well, how did you go broke? Gradually? Then suddenly one

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Speaker 4: of the best things ever written about that, because that

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Speaker 4: is what happens. It feels gradual till the point that

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Speaker 4: it's just okay, now we're screwed. I'm screwed, the family screwed, whatever,

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Speaker 4: the country's screwed.

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Speaker 2: And then and then there's no fixing it.

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Speaker 4: There's no coming back saying oh wait a second, I

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Speaker 4: didn't know or something.

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Speaker 2: It's no, you're done.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you prefer the metaphor of the boiling frog, which

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Speaker 1: is especially appropriate because we're talking about French people. There

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Speaker 1: surely are their nickname on anybody. Yeah, anyway, So putting

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Speaker 1: aside the particular parties and personalities, Marine la Penn, you've

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Speaker 1: heard of her, the right winger and unruly alliances of

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Speaker 1: leftist parties and Macron's so called moderates and all the

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Speaker 1: worry about that, here's the deal. La Penn joined with

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Speaker 1: leftist lawmakers backing the no confidence vote for the current

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Speaker 1: prime minister dude after he said, look, here's sixty billion euros.

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Speaker 1: It's about sixty three billion dollars. It's quaint by US

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Speaker 1: monetary foolishness standards, but France is a much smaller country.

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Speaker 1: He produced about seventy three billion dollars in spending cuts

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Speaker 1: and tax increases. What he's trying to do is narrow

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Speaker 1: France's deficit, which is going to reach more than six

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Speaker 1: percent of their gross domestic product this year, which is

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Speaker 1: double the European Union's limit because they have rules to

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Speaker 1: keep everybody from going broken, then making everybody else bail

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Speaker 1: them out like Grease did. But this Barnier is this

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Speaker 1: guy's name. We just got voted out. He spoke to

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Speaker 1: the Lower House as people were shouting at him. He

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Speaker 1: had a solemn look on his face, and he said, look,

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Speaker 1: we need to fix our finances. Spending more on servicing

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Speaker 1: our debt than our entire defense budget. Quote, listen to me,

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Speaker 1: this reality is here to stay and it won't disappear

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Speaker 1: by the magic of emotion of censure. In other words, Okay,

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Speaker 1: get rid of me. Get the next guy in. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna have exactly the same problem and they're politically paralyzed.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 4: I started the show talking about Mitt Romney's speech yesterday,

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Speaker 4: his leaving the Senate speech, when he talked about the

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Speaker 4: thing that bothered him the most, he couldn't make any

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Speaker 4: movement on bringing the parties together and doing something about

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Speaker 4: our debt. And he mentioned, you realize that if we

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Speaker 4: didn't have so much we are spending on just the

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Speaker 4: interest payments on our debt, we could double our defense budget,

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Speaker 4: or double our Social Security payments in Medicare payout, or

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Speaker 4: double lots of things, he realized if we didn't have

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Speaker 4: to pay, But we do, and nobody has any interest

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Speaker 4: in doing anything about it, and it's only gonna get worse.

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Speaker 1: Our spend thrift ways are a choice and they have

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Speaker 1: re consequences, but there is zero political gain in putting

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Speaker 1: that out. That is, so you're gonna eat your spinach,

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Speaker 1: and we do not have an electric that is willing

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Speaker 1: to eat spinach at this point. Just one more note

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Speaker 1: on the French thing, and it's gonna be frustrating. And

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Speaker 1: I know y'all are with us on this, but when

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Speaker 1: the pooh hits the ventilation device, a huge percent of

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Speaker 1: the population and a lot of the politicians are going

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Speaker 1: to say.

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Speaker 2: How did this happen? Right?

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be slapping my forehead. But anyway, so

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Speaker 1: Marine La Penn, who I agree with on a fair

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Speaker 1: amount about immigration that sort of thing, said she was

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Speaker 1: prepared to vote in favor of an extension. She was

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Speaker 1: railing against Barnier's measures as an assault on working in

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Speaker 1: middle class households that have borne the brunt of the

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Speaker 1: cost of living crisis. This budget takes the French people hostage,

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Speaker 1: she said.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, well, good luck to us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's not good for the United States either,

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Speaker 4: because France is one of our main allies. We end

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Speaker 4: up in a full on war with China, France will

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Speaker 4: be on our side and we'll need them.

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Speaker 2: And if they're broke, they're less help.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just I think

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Speaker 1: I'm resigned to the disaster. I just feel I think

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Speaker 1: I am too. I think I am too.

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Speaker 4: They're going to grow up in a different country than

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Speaker 4: I did, a much weaker country with much higher taxes

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Speaker 4: and lower services, which I don't care that much about.

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Speaker 4: But it'll be a different it'll be a different country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm looking for the energy that would be behind

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Speaker 1: a reckoning with the problem and a summoning the will

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Speaker 1: to fix it. And don't I don't find that energy anywhere.

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Speaker 4: There are lots of people, slash families that do the

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Speaker 4: same thing. You know, you got to get your act together.

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Speaker 4: It could be your weight, it could be your credit card,

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Speaker 4: it could be lots of different things. You know, you

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Speaker 4: got to eat your act together. And when do you

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Speaker 4: after the disaster hits, after the heart attack, after you

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Speaker 4: actually get your car repossessed or lose your job after

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Speaker 4: the disaster, and we are gonna have to have a.

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Speaker 2: Disaster before we'll do anything about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, not looking forward to super no kicking the gut.

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Speaker 4: I'll just mention this briefly before we take a break.

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Speaker 4: Did you see the pictures of Hunter Biden at Arby's.

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Speaker 1: I missed that somehow.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever seen anybody look so happy.

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Speaker 4: And when I saw the look on his face, I thought,

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Speaker 4: you know, I get it, it makes sense.

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Speaker 2: I hate it.

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Speaker 4: But he was facing a miserable end to his life,

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Speaker 4: he says, his early fifties. He's gonna spend five, ten, fifteen,

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Speaker 4: twenty years in prison, right be broke forever. Well, and

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Speaker 4: that's just the existing convictions, never mind all the crimes

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Speaker 4: he may have, money laundering, Faarah violations, everything that his

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Speaker 4: daddy preemptively pardoned him. His daddy declared that for an

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Speaker 4: eleven year period, Hunter Biden was not subject to the

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Speaker 4: laws of the United States, and if he broke a

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Speaker 4: single one, all is forgiven preemptively, no matter what he did.

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Speaker 1: Treason, murder, well that's a local church as well. But

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Speaker 1: just it's o scene.

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Speaker 4: So that guy who is facing prison and a whole

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Speaker 4: bunch of other stuff getting uncovered and made his life

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Speaker 4: even more miserable and ending up broke. As of Sunday

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Speaker 4: Night is a fifty something, rich guy who's never going

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Speaker 4: to jail. Every imagine the weight lifted off of his shoulders.

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Speaker 4: Kind of funny that I ended up at the Arby's

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Speaker 4: and Ventura.

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Speaker 2: But the meats. They have the meats, So huh, where

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Speaker 2: you're gonna go. You're gonna go where they have the meats.

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Speaker 2: Got and so then the other story. If you haven't

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Speaker 2: heard this, have you heard about who Joe Biden's talking about? Partning?

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Speaker 4: I mean, this was reported yesterday by the great political

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Speaker 4: reporter Jonathan Martin. We should tell you about that when

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Speaker 4: we come back up on other things.

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Speaker 7: I saw that as shopping mall in Los Angeles is

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Speaker 7: charging one hundred and sixty five dollars for kids to

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Speaker 7: meet Santa. Oh yeah, these kids are so rich Santa

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Speaker 7: ask them for presents. Normally, if sitting on someone's lap

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Speaker 7: costs one hundred and sixty five dollars, you're not.

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Speaker 2: At the mall, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So this is a Los Angeles mall. If you

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Speaker 4: know LA, it's a Westfield Mall in Century City, where

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Speaker 4: I've been many times, not far from Beverly Hills. They

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Speaker 4: have three pricey photo options for parents who want to

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Speaker 4: have their kids take a photo and meet Santa. The

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Speaker 4: get in price. The cheapest price called an Elf pass,

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Speaker 4: is one hundred and nine dollars, which is just a

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Speaker 4: regular ticket one hundred and nine bucks for the cheapo version.

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Speaker 4: For parents that don't have time to wait as much

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Speaker 4: as the peasants next to them, the Reindeer Express passes

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Speaker 4: available for one hundred and twenty five. Then you got

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Speaker 4: the VIP option one hundred and sixty five dollars, which

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Speaker 4: comes with complimentary cookies and the elves will check you.

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Speaker 2: In and you don't have to wait in line very long.

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Speaker 4: You can't take any of your own photo, by the way,

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Speaker 4: you can't stay there with your standard if your phone

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Speaker 4: and click a picture of your kid on them saying

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Speaker 4: his lap. You got to buy their official photos of course.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, they'll tasy.

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Speaker 1: If you try to do that, one of the elves

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Speaker 1: will run at you with a taser and bring you

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Speaker 1: to your knees.

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Speaker 4: Take that, as Will Ferrell said, an Elf Santa sits

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Speaker 4: on the throne of lies.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Christmas presents and that sort of thing, your

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Speaker 1: favorite ANG fan would absolutely love some swag from the

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Speaker 1: Ang superstore Armstrong and Giddy dot com. The premium Armstrong

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Speaker 1: and Giddy Adidas hoodies are flying off the shelves. People

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Speaker 1: of them, and it helps to keep everybody on the

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Speaker 1: staff during these challenging times. So again, pick up some

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Speaker 1: Ang swag.

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Speaker 4: So Jonathan Martin's one of your top political reporters in America,

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Speaker 4: and he put this out yesterday and it got a

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Speaker 4: lot of attention. Top Biden aids are conducting a vigorous

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Speaker 4: internal debate. So they're actually debating this over whether to

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Speaker 4: issue preemptive pardons, which would be an extraordinary step to

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Speaker 4: inoculate potential Trump targets from prosecution. At issue, whether to

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Speaker 4: err on the side of protecting figures like Anthony Fauci.

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Speaker 2: Freaking shift.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the mister Russiagate Liz Cheney in case Trump pursues him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yours a people who engage in law fare. The

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Speaker 2: Republicans don't do that, you scum bags, ye um.

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Speaker 4: And the debate is over whether or not Biden should

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Speaker 4: issue a pardon like he did with his son or

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Speaker 4: avoid any suggestion of impropriety by handing out pardons. Such

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Speaker 4: individuals are not even seeking over things they haven't nobody's

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Speaker 4: even I mean, there haven't been pardons like this before.

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Speaker 4: I was reading through a bunch of those the legal

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Speaker 4: people jumping in as soon as this news broke yesterday.

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Speaker 4: This would be a new territory for the pardon power

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Speaker 4: of just there's a person that might somebody might come

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Speaker 4: after them over something so their part and.

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Speaker 2: I like them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just put them above the law whatever might

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Speaker 1: have seen. It is horrifying. If this gets through, I

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Speaker 1: don't there will be a reckoning over the pardon power.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there has been a fair amount of talk among

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Speaker 4: various legal people of whether or not we ought to

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Speaker 4: rein that in or do away with it completely.

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 4: Who's the guy who got shot in the duel Alexander Hamilton.

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Speaker 4: He wrote the federal's paper arguing for the pardon power.

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Speaker 4: But it perhaps relied on I'm stealing this from others

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Speaker 4: smarter than me. It perhaps relied on certain kinds of

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Speaker 4: people in the presidency that weren't going to abuse it.

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Speaker 4: And then if you get a certain kind of person

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Speaker 4: in the presency that's going to abuse it and it

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Speaker 4: doesn't work anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honorable moral people don't need as many rules. Is

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Speaker 1: not honorable people like an entire family that sells influence

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Speaker 1: and there's money for instance. Oh boy, yeah, I can't

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Speaker 1: imaginate it.

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Speaker 4: I almost want Biden to do it kind of practically,

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Speaker 4: like taking a page from the whole Marxist playbook of

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Speaker 4: let's make things so awful they have to be rebuilt.

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Speaker 2: Just you know, go.

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Speaker 4: Go whole hog with this, do it, do just crazy pardons,

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Speaker 4: and then let's have a real conversation of whether or

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Speaker 4: not presidents ought to be able to do this or not,

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Speaker 4: and in what way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if the media were not the lapdogs that they were,

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Speaker 1: everybody would be talking about this all the time. It's

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Speaker 1: an enormously important story. The idea of preemptively declaring people

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Speaker 1: above the law for a decade or more of their lives.

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Speaker 1: What the hell? The Founding fathers would be loading their

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Speaker 1: muskets And this is not a call for any sort

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Speaker 1: of violence. It's merely a phantasmagorical fantasy. They would be

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Speaker 1: loading their muskets and saying time for another one round two?

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: What but they're vigor sleep debating it inside the White

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Speaker 4: House right now. So who knows which direction they go

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Speaker 4: or you know, they don't have to do all of them.

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Speaker 4: Maybe they do Liz Cheney or just Adam Shift or whatever,

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Speaker 4: but it will still be extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: If they'll declare what they think they're guilty of, they

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Speaker 1: need to be pardoned. I might be more patient with it.

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