WEBVTT - Susan’s Trips & Nip Slips (S1 E5 “Come In, Stranger”) 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:06.320 Hi, Welcome to Desperately Devoted The Ultimate Desperate Housewives rewatch, 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:10.360 hosted by me, Terry Hatcher, my on screen daughter Andrea Bowen, 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.760 and my real life daughter Emerson Tenney. 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:17.599 Hi, guys, Hi did you see what I did with 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:18.160 my voice there? 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:20.840 I sort of went, Hi, God, you did it very 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:24.720 sky Yeah, you because we are talking about episode five, 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:29.880 Come in Stranger, which originally aired on October thirty first, 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.120 two thousand and four. 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.320 And you know, my daughter knows. I think you know too. 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:38.159 But Halloween has always been a really big deal in 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.400 our house, and Halloween doesn't really have anything to do 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:42.880 with this episode other than the fact that it aired 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:44.959 on Halloween. Wait, I will say that I got very 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:45.680 excited about it. 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.040 I was going to say, I actually loved this episode, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.320 and I think it's very appropriate that it aired on 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.200 Halloween because to me, this feels like this is where 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:58.240 the mystery and the crime plot really picks up in 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.280 a pervasive way in the neighbor hood on Westeria Lane. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:02.360 Oh that's very true. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.720 Yeah, very true, and something scary. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.320 Yeah, it is true. We have a break in happening 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:12.240 at the beginning, and that leads to Susan exploring and 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.559 confused about her feelings between her and Mike. And we've 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:23.679 got Gabby whose mother in law's scarily unannounced at the 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.480 at the house, and Brie still struggling in her marriage 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:32.720 with Rex, and Brie also becomes heightenedly worried about Zach 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:40.360 and Janette, of course, is uh scared of her kids 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.600 and she should be. So did you guys have a 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:45.399 favorite or you know, some sort of moment that stuck 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.720 out to you that you're excited to dig into more? 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.880 I really did, I mean I had, I had a 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.920 couple of different moments, but one and we're going to 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:55.680 get to it because it happens a little bit later 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.920 in the episode is when Susan ends up walking the street. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.880 And my favorite moment is very small and it's a 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.280 definitely a behind the scenes, be in the know if 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.120 you're in the know. But when Susan takes out her 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:15.200 phone to call Julie, it is a bedazzled flip phone, 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.720 Samson flip phone, and it is the same phone I 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:21.560 had as my first phone. I mean, obviously you weren't 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.400 using my phone as a prop in that right, but 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.400 it was exactly the same model. Mine was also bedazzled 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:29.160 and I think I screamed out loud when I thought, oh, 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.480 got my phone. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.200 Oh, oh my god, Oh the nostalgia. 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:34.120 Yeah, that was my favorite moment and some of the 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:38.640 lines that in that and this is really their choice 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:38.880 to me. 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:42.640 Yeah, I would say my favorite moment from the episode 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:46.120 happens during the It's really just the dinner scene with 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:49.720 with bree and Zach. I found that scene to be 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.720 really powerful. I think we discussed in leading up to 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.919 this episode we wanted to know more of breeze backstory. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.639 We wanted to know more about where she came from, 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:00.000 and the insight into what she shares about the experience 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.880 she had with her mom's tragic passing when she was 0:03:03.919 --> 0:03:07.560 young really informs a lot about who she is today. 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:10.640 And I thought that was really powerful and beautifully played 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.440 by both Marcia and and Cody. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:19.359 Yeah, well sort of similarly. I think mine was also 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:23.600 a free line. I don't know if it wasn't in 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.960 that dinner scene, but I was really struck by her 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.200 line that she says, just because you didn't hear them 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:34.320 fighting doesn't mean they were happy and in a sad, 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:39.880 deep way, which this show can do this to you, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:43.840 you know. I unfortunately, feel like that is pervasive still 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.800 in our culture today, and you look at social media, 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.760 the sort of the difference between the presentation of the 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.720 life and then the actual life. And so I feel 0:03:54.760 --> 0:03:58.240 like that episode really gets This episode really gets into 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.800 that with all of these characters. So let's dive in. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:03.120 Yeah, do it? 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.200 So? I wanted to talk about how it opens with 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:10.320 Julie and and Susan having to take care of a cat. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.720 I said, Mom, this episode is for you. We are 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.240 opening on missus Frome the cat Lady. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:19.280 Yeah, I wrote down also cat Lady vibes. Let's talk 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.279 about it with Terry. 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.760 I don't feel complimented, That's all I'm saying right now. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:28.240 I feel like I'm getting thrown under the cat Lady. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:32.400 When you when you go out of town, you are 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.320 very worried about your cat and who is going to. 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:36.680 Work very hard to leave them. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.720 You leave a long list of ways to feed them. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.080 They each have different ways to be fed. I have 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:46.320 executed some of these tasks and luckily there's never been 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.360 a break in and the door has never been left. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.360 Ajar, Can I just say there is a shot where 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.800 the cat like goes and crawls into her suitcase as 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.760 she's packing. It's just a very mind but it's a thing. 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.080 And you guys out there, you have to let me know. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:06.760 Like when I pack, my cat always gets in my suitcase. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.200 In fact, I think I printed out a picture I 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:10.880 was going to show you. I have the cutest picture 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:14.960 of fig in a suitcase. But it's inevitable that the 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.039 cat will get in your suit suitcase too, So you 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:19.360 know what I'm saying, Yeah, it's a real thing. 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:20.240 Does it smell like you? 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:20.359 Like? 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:21.760 Why do they have no idea? 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.000 But in this scene, the cat goes through the suitcase 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.240 of missus Froner who's leaving, which I was like, that's 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.680 so honest. It's a tiny, tiny detail. But like I 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.960 liked it and appreciated it. And what else was I 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:36.919 thinking about? Oh? The other thing was that surprised me 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:38.480 is I didn't remember shooting this at all? 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.080 No, me, neither, I mean neither, I really. 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:43.880 I think that's one of the fun things about rewatching 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.240 it is just seeing how much was dumped from my mind. 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.120 I we're there, we're filming, I'm like, wow, I truly 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.159 have no recollection of us doing that, of any of 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.839 this storyline of there being a cat. 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:57.400 Involved at all. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:00.520 I want to make like a cat burglar in here 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:05.400 somewhere right, it's hovering right around us. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:07.080 But it's true. 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.640 I would have thought that the cat, like working with 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.520 a cat would have stuck in my brain because I 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:16.200 love animals so much and I'm obsessed with animals and 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.640 cats specifically, And I did not remember filming the sun. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.080 Maybe it's because I know. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:24.080 Maybe it's because Susan does such a bad job taking 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.280 care of the cat, which honestly, I think is a 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.880 little bit unfair, because then we go into this montage 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:32.720 talking about Susan's misfortunes and all of the things that 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.640 kind of go wrong when she tries to help or 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:37.000 when she tries to be involved in a certain scenario. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:39.560 And in terms of the cat, I thought, you know what, 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:43.000 someone breaking into the house is really out of Susan's control. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:44.760 I feel like that really has nothing to do with her. 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:48.520 But I was curious in terms of remembering moments, I 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:50.679 wrote down. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:52.640 I love when you write things down. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:54.320 I'm so good at it. 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.400 On my phone, I tag it down, I said, I 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:02.760 remember this falling on the table stunt, and then I said, 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:04.080 care to share. 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:08.119 Mom Oh, yes, that was the first rib I broke. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:12.160 Definitely broke a rib on that one. You were saying 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.960 that you remember, I remember, And this is not because 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:19.200 again we've talked about people confusing Terry and Susan, and 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.240 Susan can't cook and Terry can cook, and Susan's a 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.640 fairly inept mother and Terry is not. And Susan's a 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.320 klutz and Terry is not. And the reason Terry is 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:33.160 not is because that takes to be able to turn 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.120 your body lean on the table, have it fall in 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:38.320 a certain way, have your face end up in a cake, 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.680 and do that over and over. 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:41.720 All the glasses fallen. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:47.600 Yeah, all of that so choreographed, and it's so effort full, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:51.040 even though it looks like it just happened. And on 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.400 one take it was, you know, because we probably did 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.160 it five or six times. I mean, I don't know 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:58.160 how many cakes we had. But on one take I 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.560 just pushed too hard. That table was made of hard plywood, 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.640 and somehow I landed on my side and cracked one 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:09.240 of my ribs. Yeah, so I was unlucky. Like that 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:09.720 was a moment. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.320 Did you know right away that something might have been cracked? 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.080 I think I knew right away that I was in 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.440 that I was in pain. 0:08:15.680 --> 0:08:16.760 But I all met at home. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:21.160 But I also appreciated the bird scene the little and 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.120 I was trying to remember that must have been CGI 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.000 had in right, There's no way anybody had a bird 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.680 on a fishing line that they were just like off camera. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.800 Yeah, I think it must have been a post. 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:34.320 Yeah. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.400 I thought, I mean not to toot my own horn, 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.760 But I was like, it is kind of funny to 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.439 look back on this and a think, wow, I look 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:44.400 like a baby. I can't believe I didn't realize at 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.679 the time I was so young, but also be like that. 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:49.640 Was really good. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.000 Yeah, it was great. 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.280 That whole montage of all of those little comedic moments. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:55.600 It really makes me think of mom. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.160 This is one of our favorite movies of Defending Your 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:02.040 Life Albert Brooks, and there is this incredible montage when 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.920 Albert Brooks's character is watching back moments in his life 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.440 and the woman who I mean, I forgive me. If 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.240 you've never seen Defending Your Life, you need this podcast. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.000 And watch it right now. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.920 But the woman who's trying him for his life says, 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.199 and now I'm going to show you a compilation of moments, 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:24.760 some of them plagued by fear, some of them just stupid. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.160 It's a compilation of all these physical stunts that Albert 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:34.280 Brooks execute so well. And I really thought of you, well, 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:35.800 I mean that. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.800 To even be remotely a tenth compared to a genius 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:44.440 like that. But I mean, those are the people that I, 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:49.600 you know, studied like those movements and those comedic beats, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.679 you know, going back to Lucille Ball. But you know, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.280 somebody like Albert Brooks, I mean, or or Terry garr 0:09:55.760 --> 0:09:59.840 In Tutsie. I mean, I mean that is where I 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.280 a sponge from those things. And anyway, great. 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:05.880 Show. 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:10.240 So we moved through Susan having bad luck and the 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.720 whole thing with the cat, and then we get to 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.280 a group scene, and I just wanted to talk about 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.320 how these were very arduous scenes to shoot because there 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:23.320 were so many people in them, and that means you 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.000 have to shoot from so many different angles and you're 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.360 just doing the same thing over and over and over 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.240 for hours and hours and hours to try to get 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:35.120 coverage of everyone, which is fairly exhaustive. But that said, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:40.320 there was such power in having the whole cast in 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:44.679 the same room and and then the cleanup afterwards, and 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.480 and and I don't know. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.880 Well, because we talk about how it's it's when we 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.560 watch the show, you know, it's really fun for you 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.720 and I having been on the show to watch it 0:10:58.240 --> 0:10:59.880 because there was so much we didn't see. We would 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.000 read the scripts, but we didn't see these, you know, 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.319 other storylines, And so when you get a group scene, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.560 it's really nice, I think as a viewer to see 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.920 all of these people in one room to watch even 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.199 in the background, like I'm noticing that I'm paying attention 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.760 to who is talking to who in the background. You know. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.280 Oh, that was another thing I loved about the scene 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.440 that all those extras that are crossing the street and 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.880 walking in like that was Patty. Patty was my stand 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.280 in for the entire run of the show, and Rosie, 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.440 Patty and Rosie go walking across the street, and it 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:34.240 just I mean, I know, I'm gonna cry like it. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:42.640 You well, you know, I was a crew girl, you know, like, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.760 I don't know what that is about me. I've never been. 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:55.640 I that was that was the the connection for me, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:59.520 was all those families and their crew people, and you know, 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:01.479 we would go camping together. 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:05.920 Like yeah, I mean for years and and D and D. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:10.720 D A and uh it and and they would come 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.600 to my house for parties and and I threw bridle 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:18.360 showers and things were Patty and baby showers for people. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.160 And I don't know, it's. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:24.199 Your community, it was people, it was your family, and 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:24.600 for so. 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.560 Much stand in it's a hard job. And I know 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.439 I think I'm tiary because I know Patty had a 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:33.960 lot of respect for me, and I have a lot 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.080 of respect for her back. And it was just a 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.760 moment in time. You know, eight years of a relationship. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:44.079 We haven't kept in touch really, but I don't know 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.440 her work, her her sort of diligence to kind of 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.600 really clock what I would do in a rehearsal so 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:56.760 that she could repeat it enough that it would get 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.760 lit in the right way, which is really what a 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:02.000 stand in's job is is is you know, if they're 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.840 not paying attention and they decide to like sit on 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.840 the stool and then you come back and you're like, 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.360 I wasn't sitting, then it's not lit right. And so 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.080 it's an important job in terms of how they represent you. 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.040 And she really cared and. 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:18.520 Well that's so moving. 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:20.760 Yeah, anyway, gosh, I didn't think I was going to 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:21.640 talk about that, I. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.880 Know, but it's nice and it was. It was noticeable 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.679 to see them on screen like that. Yeah, you know, 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:27.480 we didn't get to see them on screen, you know, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.720 so it felt really it popped off for me. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.840 Yeah, totally noticing the people that were the extras that 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:36.160 were there on sort of a loop of a basis 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:38.160 in the neighborhood. Yeah, it's really sweet. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.480 I love the community scenes too, because for me, it 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.880 feels like each time we get to see the whole 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.760 community together, all the women, yes, but all of the 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:51.480 other characters on the block, it just strengthens this idea 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.679 that there is really a fifth sixth character, which is 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.920 with Sterry Lane. And I felt like I got such 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.840 a larger understanding of what of community with Steria Lane is. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.320 You know that a police officer is actually coming to 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.839 stand in someone's room to do a kind of town 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.040 hall about vigilance, about how to lock your doors and 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.200 how to make sure that you're safe. It really grounds 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.400 it in a even I know they never say, you know, 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.640 with Steria Lane is set in a fictional place, but 0:14:18.120 --> 0:14:22.080 in a very specific atmosphere of an idea of an 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:24.640 American town that I found. 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:26.720 It makes you feel like I want to live in 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.600 a town where the police come and give like a 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.760 lecture to the neighborhood. I would like. 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:35.120 The equivalent of that with me. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:39.280 Downtown is like a citizen and Reddit subgroups talking about 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:42.120 why fireworks are going off at two am every single night. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.840 Not building chairs and croissants in someone's living room. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:15:01.280 App So in that cleanup scene with all the women 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:05.000 and this, I know we will we'll get to at 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.400 the at the end, you know, kind of our claim 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:13.000 maming of what our most desperate moment was. But I 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:18.080 found it to be very interesting and somehow feel familiar 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.400 to me, although I couldn't remember anything specific that had 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:24.040 happened to me. But have you ever been asked to 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:25.520 lie for somebody? Oh? 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.440 Gosh, yes? 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:31.880 And so what happens is Lynette asks Bree to lie 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.640 to the private school about her kids being wonderful students 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:38.880 so that they have a better chance of getting in. 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:41.640 And Bree is sort of like, well, your kids aren't wonderful, 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.000 so you want me to lie and let It's like, well, duh, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.360 you know, yeah, And it was It's an interesting has 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:51.040 that happened to you. 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:54.040 This is such a tough moral spot. And I had 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.000 the same instinct because I noted that moment too, and 0:15:56.040 --> 0:15:59.120 I thought, gosh, okay, have I been in a scenario 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.720 like this, because my impulse is to say, yeah, of course, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.600 I feel like I feel like I have, you know, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.640 not around Obviously, I couldn't get anyone's kid into any school. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:15.760 I'm sorry, but you know, actually, just recently, okay, I do, 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:16.240 I do. 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:17.280 I have a moment of this. 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.640 So in my communal building where I live, loft building, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:26.480 there's an outdoor parking structure and we share it with 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:29.880 another building that is not a residential building. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:32.800 It's like an office building. And they were opening. 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.600 New offices and they pulled and I happened to see 0:16:35.600 --> 0:16:38.120 it because my girlfriend and I were walking out in 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.200 our outdoor parking lot to go to a coffee shop 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:43.560 in the morning, and they pulled this like eighteen wheeler 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:48.880 truck into the outdoor parking area, which is very narrow. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.960 It was blocking all the cars, so nobody who lived 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.600 there could get in, and it had we hadn't seen this. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:59.400 This is the moral gray are, okay, but it was clearly. 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.320 Like not supposed to be in a parking structure of 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.320 that size, And as we were coming back from coffee, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.960 the truck had moved, but we noticed that the gate 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:11.399 to the outside was clearly broken. I mean it was 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.720 still opening and closing, but it was making this horrible 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.800 screeching sound, and it had all of these like slash 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:21.800 marks along it. And this man who runs the hoa 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.359 for the building was out there and he kind of 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.119 was looking and very hairy looking at the gate and 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.560 seemed very distressed. And he sort of said to us 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.679 as we walked by, did you did you see what happened? 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.200 Did you see this big truck? And we said, oh, 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.879 is that? I mean, yeah, obviously we see the gates damage. 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:40.679 And we did see there was a truck here this 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.679 morning when we were leaving, and it seemed like, you know, 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:44.720 they couldn't fit. And he said, well, will you go 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.080 on the record saying you saw them hit the gate? 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:47.640 Oh? 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.560 Oh, when you didn't see them? 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:53.000 We didn't see them hit the gate. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.280 And we said we were like, oh, you know, we 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.880 didn't actually see. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:57.240 Them hit the gate. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:59.479 You know, I can deduce, like any of us can deduce, 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.280 that that is what happened. And I'm happy to say 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.560 that I saw there was a truck here, but I 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.959 really can't say I saw it hit the gate for 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.520 you because I didn't. 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.960 Yeah, so it does come up. Yeah, yeah it felt familiars. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.160 I'm sure it has in small ways. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.840 You know, if someone and I'm going to use an example, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.359 that feels weird, but you know, because like if you 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:24.400 have to be a reference for someone for something, that's 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.639 why it feels weird. Some'm like, when has someone asked 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.480 me to be a reference? But I have a recollection 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:30.760 of someone being like, hey, could you write me a 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:35.840 letter of recommendation or something? And you know, maybe I've 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.440 felt like, because I have love for this person, I 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.360 would inflate it a little bit or something like that. 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.439 But I found this to be an interesting moment too. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:43.639 Well. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.280 One, it was very funny, right when she says, so 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.480 you want me to lie? And she said yeah, I 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:49.679 thought that was implied. Yeah, that was very funny. But 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:54.479 I also thought maybe bree could actually really relate. This 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.879 is speaking Breeze language right, as someone who strives so 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.920 hard to present a certain image. And yes, her kids 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:03.600 might be better behaved in general, but she does have 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.840 other examples of when something's not entirely on the up 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:09.199 and up, and she portrays it that way anyway. So 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:12.920 I thought maybe as Lynette's friend, she could have a 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:16.880 softer approach to understanding why Lynette was asking. 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:18.160 Her to You mean she could have or you think 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:18.600 she did. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:20.959 No, I think she could have. I kind of. I mean, 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.440 I understand because she doesn't. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.480 Yeah, because she ends with you know, but of course 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.119 you don't care about my like the fact that I 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:29.800 would want to get my grandchildren in. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.080 And like yeah, yeah, and she's like no, not really. 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:33.679 Yeah. 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.480 I thought the reason that Brie was so resistant was 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.440 exactly because of what you said, Because I think Bree 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.960 seems like a character who is actually just barely holding 0:19:43.040 --> 0:19:47.320 everything together behind this facade of perfectionism, that the last 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:51.080 thing she needs to take on is someone else's lie 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.480 about someone else's life, because she is kind of struggling 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.880 with all of the potential lies or half truth she's 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:58.960 woven around herself. 0:19:59.160 --> 0:19:59.560 Yeah. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.760 The end of this scene, they is the line that 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:05.520 I brought up at the beginning, which is that you just, uh, 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.440 just because you didn't hear fighting doesn't mean that they 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.240 were happy. And I do think that that is maybe 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:14.960 who says that? 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:16.760 Who that? 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:17.480