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Speaker 1: Great move to the right at the fifty, comes back

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Speaker 1: he got crushed. You've gotta be Kidney, come off the

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Speaker 1: ball with malice. Here is Paul Calvc. Just when you

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Speaker 1: a bird big win against Seattle on Sunday night football

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Speaker 1: back in mafia style. Gentlemen, here we are with a

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Speaker 1: reality check as we go into week number nine. Coming

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Speaker 1: Darren I saw your story and acy Cardinals dot Com first,

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Speaker 1: So why don't you go ahead break the news, get

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Speaker 1: bye and they still lose two players. Yeah, two defensive starters,

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Speaker 1: Devon Knard and Byron Murphy have landed on the COVID

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Speaker 1: that seemed to be the natural connection there. And clearly

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Speaker 1: And this stipulation is you can end up on the

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. So, I guess best case scenario is

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Speaker 1: Is that feasible? Is I mean, Darren, come on, is

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Speaker 1: he had, I would be scared of death every time

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Speaker 1: too it took a hit, and especially if he went

430
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Speaker 1: to run. Did you see his first pass attempt and

431
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: he got absolutely planted by Michael Brockers. He goes back

432
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 1: to pass, he hung onto the ball too long. Aaron

433
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: Donald gets his big mitten their strip sack, knocks the

434
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Speaker 1: ball away to a turns to look for the football

435
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: and bamn, he gets absolutely planted by ginormous Michael Brockers.

436
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: You talk about taking a first hit usher you into

437
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Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, honestly, I don't know if he

438
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: can play, but based on that he can take a hit.

439
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: Go ahead, cop. You look at the how exotic the

440
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals were in the in the fourth quarter and overtime

441
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks, and you confused Russell Wilson in that game.

442
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: A guy who's been in the NFL forever, who's seen

443
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Speaker 1: everything from a defense, Van's Joseph is probably licking his

444
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: tops for this one where maybe you're missing Devon Knard

445
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: and Bayern Murphy possibly, but you can really scheme up

446
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: what you want to do and try to confuse the

447
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback and defense is love doing that sort of stuff,

448
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: and the Miami offensive line has struggled, So it's a

449
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,199
Speaker 1: good matchup for the Cardinals defense for sure. And considering

450
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,719
Speaker 1: too A can't really run that well, he's not a

451
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 1: mobile threat. I mean, it's it's a pretty nice matchup

452
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: for those from the front four who want to get

453
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: after the quarterback. You know, and again you're you're talking

454
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: about a team while they're feeling pretty good about themselves.

455
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: I mean, now they're to the point where you wonder

456
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: a little bit if things get sideways, are they going

457
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: to get frustrated? I Mean, they were fortunate that two

458
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary and their offense wasn't necessarily producing a whole lot,

459
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: But at the same time, they had the big lead,

460
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: so it was a little bit different of a field.

461
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: What happens if they get here and they get down

462
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 1: ten nothing early? I mean, I think it's I think

463
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: it's going to be a tough road to hoe for

464
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback. Coming cross country, like Kyle said, potentially

465
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 1: being confused with some of this stuff. Certainly you're not

466
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: You're you're not assuming anything. And that's assuming the Cardinals

467
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Speaker 1: get that lead. I mean, you can't have and we've

468
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: seen it before, or the Cardinals playing down to the

469
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: competition thinking oh, two is not going to be able

470
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: to do much. I'd like to see this offense jump

471
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Speaker 1: on the Dolphins early, make some things happen, make it

472
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: known that, Okay, we understand our defense could potentially be

473
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: down a couple of guys because of injuries or illness.

474
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: We're going to take it on our shoulders to really

475
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: jump out early. I think that's super important for this game.

476
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray in this offense. By the way, one last

477
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: note on that game at Miami and the Rams loss.

478
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: I heard someone say because once, I'm like ka, I

479
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: didn't see the game. I saw some of the highlights,

480
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: but the Dolphins were on the shaded sideline as you

481
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 1: might expect being the home team. The Rams were in

482
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Speaker 1: the direct sunlight, and apparently the TV broadcast showed a

483
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: temperature check thermometers on both sidelines and there was like

484
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: a forty or fifty degree discrepancy. It was eighty something

485
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: degrees on the Dolphins sideline and it was like a

486
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: buck thirty something in the direct sunlight. It was, so

487
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 1: we all know about that from the sun double Stadium days.

488
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: I mean, that makes a huge difference. In Sean McVay

489
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: referenced it after the game that e'n on hearing excuses

490
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Speaker 1: about the heat, and I'm guessing his sideline was whining

491
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: a little bit about that. So that's intriguing. Maybe just

492
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: the Miami heat did the Cardinals a favor in the division,

493
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: the Rams losing that game in some regards, maybe they

494
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 1: were beaten before that game ever kicked off. They just

495
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: wanted to get the heck out of there. With an

496
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Speaker 1: Eastern time zone game and the Meggae heat, humidity and

497
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: sunshine of South Florida, maybe the Cardinals can open the

498
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: roof like halfway and move it depending on where the

499
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: sun is. Well, can I check the rulebook on that one? Okay?

500
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: So now, speaking of things that really shouldn't matter in

501
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: the scope of football game, should we be afraid or not,

502
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: guys about the Cardinals coming out of the buy based

503
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: on last year? And if you need a reminder, speaking

504
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 1: of the Rams. It was by far the worst game

505
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: of the season a year ago, a game that Cliff

506
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: Kingsbury called unacceptable right after the game, A thirty four

507
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: seven lackluster loss. Where you can pull any number of

508
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: stats out of it, the most ridiculous one. I'm looking

509
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: at my notes. Actually from last year, six different Rams

510
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: receivers had at least one catch for twenty or more yards.

511
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: Think about that. That's the kind of production and that's

512
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Speaker 1: what was missing Darren coming out of the bye. Do

513
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: you think the Cardinals learned their lesson well once? I

514
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: will say that the stat that I always that sticks

515
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: in my head from that game was there was eight

516
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: minutes and thirty three seconds left in the third quarter

517
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff was already over four hundred yards passing,

518
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: which is amazing, But it goes to all the twenty

519
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: yard catches you were saying, I think they're in a

520
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: way different position with this buy. I think they would

521
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: have been anyways because of what happened last year. And

522
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: I think it's something Cliff has probably been talking about

523
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: since training camp began, like looking forward and when we

524
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Speaker 1: get there, then when you throw in pre COVID positive tests.

525
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: But the COVID culture that we're in where the players

526
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 1: had to be around every day to test, so they

527
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: couldn't go out of town. A lot of them ended

528
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: up coming in every day to the facility to at

529
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: least work out because they had to get tested. Anyways,

530
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: I think that kept them in the right mindset. Kyler

531
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: Murray said ahead of time, I'm all about working through

532
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: this by because that's what I didn't do last year,

533
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: and I'm more mature then. On top of everything else,

534
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: if that didn't do it, then you get the news

535
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: probably Sunday night. I'm guessing the players did that. A

536
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: couple of teammates have tested positive and that all of

537
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: a sudden is a cold splashing water across the face

538
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: about where we are. How quickly this could get sideways

539
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,239
Speaker 1: because of non focus in a lot of ways, and

540
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: I think that's going to help this team focus this week.

541
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't guarantee anything, but I think because

542
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: of all those things that, I think it's going to

543
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: be much easier for them to focus going into this game.

544
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: And Demika in addition to all those, and those are

545
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: all very valid points. I feel like the Cardinals have

546
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: been there and done that when it comes to lack

547
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: of energy the end of that Lions game, and then

548
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: it carried over the next week into Carolina, and that's

549
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: where it bottomed out, the lack of energy. I think

550
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: they in that that if if they don't bring it

551
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: and they're not game ready, there's a real good chance

552
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose the game. So I think I hope

553
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: that the Cardinals once again have moved past that stage

554
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: of the revolution. Yeah. I mean, as we talked about

555
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: during the Carolina aftermath, I'm not a big energy and

556
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: trying to deduce who had energy and who didn't. But

557
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: certainly they laid an egg in that game, and it

558
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with a bye week or not.

559
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 1: So I agree that having an extra week certainly shouldn't

560
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: hurt you. And I think they also played a pretty

561
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: good Rams team last year, and sometimes you get beaten

562
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: pretty soundly no matter the extenuating circumstances around you. So

563
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that the Cardinals are a much more

564
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: talented team this year than they were last year. They're

565
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: playing an opponent that I think the Dolphins are a

566
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: solid team, but not a great team, and you're at home,

567
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: So I do feel like the Cardinals are at the

568
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: very least going to be competitive, and like I said earlier,

569
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I think they're going to be favored in this game.

570
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: So I don't think any byeweek trap is coming. Any

571
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: team that you offer a buy too is going to

572
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: take it. Because you get healed up, you get an

573
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: extra week of preparation, everybody's fresher. I mean, there's a

574
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of really good things about a bye week. It's

575
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: certainly not a negative. But but but if energy does

576
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: make a little bit of difference. There are forty two

577
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: hundred fans that are going to be there this time

578
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: as opposed to there'll be there'll be a few more

579
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: voices in the building, and I'm guessing because it's the Dolphins,

580
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: the vast majority of them will be rooting for the Cardinals.

581
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: And Dared it might sound you know, okay, um, what

582
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: sort of factor could that be? But just the players

583
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: looking into this stands and seeing fans to me being there.

584
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: You've been there on all the road games, Darren, it

585
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: seems to make a difference when they look into the

586
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: stands and it's completely empty. You know, like the New

587
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: York Jets game, for example, you didn't really need energy

588
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: to win that game. But it does seemingly make and

589
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: and it's easy for the players to pick out their

590
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: own family. Yeah, I saw a lot of that, you know,

591
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: in the Seattle game. Guys in those extended TV timeouts

592
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 1: in prime time, they can easily and immediately find their

593
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: own family. And there's something about that you want to

594
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: ball out in front of your own friends and family.

595
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: You just gave them tickets. I do think, you know,

596
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: I know Kyle disagrees, but I do think there's something

597
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: to that. I mean, it's not it's not going to

598
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: put them over the top. It's not going to it's

599
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: not going to erase a Kyler Murray interception. It's not

600
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: going to uh, you know, stop one of the Dolphins

601
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: running backs from running up the middle. That's still got

602
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: to be your play and how you fill those gaps. Um.

603
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: But I think it all adds together. I think there's

604
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: a certain amount of normalcy when you see UH fans

605
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: in the stands, at least some compared to none. So

606
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: and and there's going to be a couple of situations

607
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: as we go forward. They still got to go to

608
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: the Giants, where though that stadium will be empty again. Um,

609
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: there's still gonna be a couple of instances where there's

610
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: going to be no fans in stands, and so it's

611
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: it's not over yet, trying to like maneuver through that

612
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: part of the season. And then there's the fans in

613
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: San fran there were not no, no, or a rhetorable question. Well,

614
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: I'll see what you're saying. Well, if you believe the players, Kyle,

615
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: the players you talk to as much as anyone, they say,

616
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, just the season opener and the fact that

617
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: you have regular season in football in front of you,

618
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: where you basically had no hitting, just the prospect of

619
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: real full contact football guaranteed a lot of energy and

620
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: intensity and playing the NFC champions. You know, Look, we

621
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: disagree on this side. To me, they're human and you're

622
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: gonna have great days of work and you've got bad

623
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: days of work, and they're extenuating factors and you can

624
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: discount them or not. Here's my question. If you want

625
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: something to quantify kyw Odi guard, what about the return

626
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: of Jalen Thompson and Max Williams. If indeed that's what

627
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are tracking for, where do you start and

628
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: how much impact do you think those two starters will

629
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: make there we go something we can talk about definitively

630
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: instead of trying to figure out how much is energy worth?

631
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: I think I think Jayalen Thompson is a really underrated

632
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: safety who got hurt early, and not having him has

633
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: been a pretty big deal. I mean, the defense has

634
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: been good, but Jayleen Thompson was looking like one of

635
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: your probably top five six defenders toward the end of

636
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: last season. So I think he's an important player. And

637
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he's been practicing for you know, probably

638
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: about two and a half weeks or three weeks now,

639
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 1: you'd assume he's got to be ready pretty soon. So

640
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm guessing we have a pretty good chance of seeing

641
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: him on Sunday against the Dolphins. With Max Williams. The

642
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: fact that he was just you know, being eligible to

643
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: return from ir you wonder if he's gonna be ready

644
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: or not, and if he is, how much he can play.

645
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: So I'm looking more at Jalen Thompson on having impact

646
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: in this game, and I do think it's a big

647
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: deal if you can pare him and Buddha together at safety,

648
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: that that tandem was looking really strong down the stretch

649
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen so long. What was the Max Williams injury? Again,

650
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: I should know this. Ay, everybody's got an ankle. Yeah,

651
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: it seems like you're either on the COVID list or

652
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: you got an ankle injury or an ankle Okay, all right,

653
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Speaker 1: I know. I look forward to Max Williams being back,

654
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's him at the point of attack

655
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: in the run game, whether it's him down the scene

656
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: with his sure hands. I think that's a big deal

657
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: for this offense. I really do. And I look forward

658
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: to when when he's healthy and when he's a factor again.

659
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: And Jalen Thompson his ability to tackle in space. Honestly,

660
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: you know that's at a premium these days in the NFL. Obviously,

661
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: that's what Huda Baker does as well as anyone in

662
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: the NFL. When you have those two guys out there,

663
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: there's just this reassuring feeling that your defense isn't nearly

664
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: his app to give up a big play on a

665
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: mistackle when Jayalen Thompson and a Baker out there patrolling

666
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: the deep has especially against Miami, when like we've talked about,

667
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: you're not you don't expect toah to like dominate you

668
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: twenty plus yards down the field. The times get in

669
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: trouble is when somebody catches a drag route that goes

670
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: six yards and then they get a bunch of yak

671
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: like the Washington receiver Terry McLaurin in that touchdown. Something

672
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: like that is when you can really struggle as a

673
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: defense with the yards after catch against a team like this.

674
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: So I totally agree with you, Paul. The tackling ability

675
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: of Buddha and Jayalen Thompson is huge. Just to clean

676
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,959
Speaker 1: that stuff up and give somebody a thirteen yard game,

677
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: not a fifty yard game. By the way, you mentioned

678
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: all that. Is this an opportune moment to inject here

679
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: about DK Metcalf and what he did against the forty

680
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: nine ers. Oh my goodness, twelve catches a buck sixty one.

681
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: Does that not make Pat pe look even better if

682
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: you do believe the analytics, and he held him to

683
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: one catch for six yards when traveling and shadowing, DK

684
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: Metcalf bas done out. He absolutely torched that Niners secondary.

685
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: It's just a pat to me. We can talk everything

686
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: we want about this Cardinals team, and obviously quarterback is

687
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 1: King and that's going to be key in the development

688
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: improvement of Kyler Murray and his consistency. But if you're

689
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: telling me, Pat p is back to being Patrick Peterson,

690
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: an All Pro caliber corner of the corner who was

691
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: named on the All Decade team. If you can truly

692
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: start every game plan every week with that caliber or

693
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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, that's where I get excited about this Cardinals

694
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: team overall going forward. It's funny going back and looking

695
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: at that game a little bit. The Seattle game. Not

696
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: only did Patrick do such a great job on DK Metcalf,

697
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: but a couple of times he had Lockett. I mean,

698
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: I know Locket ended up making the catches, but and

699
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: we've covered this in the last podcast, I felt like

700
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: Patrick had really good coverage on both those and it

701
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 1: just happened. And you start thinking yourself, if he just

702
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: has his hand in a little bit different of a

703
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: place and somehow knocks those balls away, I'm a what

704
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: how great of a game would that event? With everything

705
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: he did with Metcalf if he was able to knock

706
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: away just one of those bombs, And I know he didn't,

707
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't, it doesn't count, and the guy

708
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: still made the play. But I just I look at

709
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: how well he played, not only in the things he

710
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 1: did well, but even in the times he got beat,

711
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: it was right there. And maybe that's a sign that

712
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: Patrick is really rounding into the kind of place they

713
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: need to And again, if they don't have a Byron Murphy,

714
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: that becomes really important to have a guy that's playing

715
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: at that kind of level and gives you so many

716
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: more options in the secondary. And Patrick admitted after the

717
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: game that he doesn't have that same elite speed that

718
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: he did. You know eight years ago. He said, I'm

719
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: in year ten and DK Metcalfs in year two. I

720
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: wasn't catching him. So Patrick doesn't have those four three

721
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: wheels that he did coming out of college. But he

722
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: might be at the sweet spot of his career where

723
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: he's still got these tremendous ball skills. Now quarterbacks are

724
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: challenging him a little bit more because they think they

725
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: have more of a chance to complete passes, and if

726
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: he's near the ball, he's going to intercept it more

727
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: times than not if he can get his hand on it.

728
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 1: I think Van's Joseph made that point last week, and

729
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good one. So Patrick Peterson's

730
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: already got a couple of interceptions, and if he can

731
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Speaker 1: continue doing that and make up for maybe giving up

732
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: a few more catches throughout a game, then that's a

733
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: that's a decent kind of trade off for the Cardinals.

734
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Darren Kyle already has his NFC playoff field set.

735
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: He's already he's got his matchups already. I'm trying to

736
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: tell him, Karma, don't do it. He's already formulating matchups

737
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: and who Pat p might be on in the first

738
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. And it's it's early November. I mean,

739
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, it's it's a little out of

740
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: hand at this point. I mean, it's funny, we can

741
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: joke about it. But with all the injuries that the

742
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: forty nine ers have had and where some of this

743
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: is going, you can you can start to get I

744
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: think it's not wrong where you start to get a

745
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of an idea with this extra playoff spot, who

746
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: who the NFC playoff teams might be. Now, you might

747
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: not be able to say exactly where everybody's gonna stand

748
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: for sure, um, but I mean, but with seven with

749
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: seven of them this year, it's it's easier. Honestly, the

750
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: way you know they're they're does seem to be a

751
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: divide between those top seven and the rest of the

752
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: NFC right now, Kyle, I think you have to really

753
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: like the Cardinal's chances to make the playoffs, and right now,

754
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: I think the only team above five hundred that's not

755
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: in the top seven spots is the Bears, who are

756
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: five and three, but they've lost two in a row.

757
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: Their point differential isn't very good. Their offense really struggles.

758
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: I mean in an offense driven league, they don't have

759
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can lift them up consistently week to week.

760
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: So I personally have questions about the Bears, which goes

761
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: back to I see seven teams that are above the

762
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: rest in the NFC, and the Cardinals are one of

763
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: those seven. There's a long way to go and we'll

764
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: see how it plays out, but I think if you're

765
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: a fan of any of those seven teams, you're feeling

766
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: pretty good about your team's chance to make the playoffs.

767
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: Who's going in? Is the number one seed in the NFC?

768
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: Are you looking at Seattle with Russell Wilson four more

769
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: touchdown passes? Obviously in that win against the forty nine Ers,

770
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: they at Carlos Dunlap getting Jamal Adams back, Are they

771
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: still the team to beat? Darren in your in your

772
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: mind for that number one seed, which is the only

773
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: team in each conference that gets a buy out of

774
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the first round of the playoffs, I mean, I think

775
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: as long as they can not have any more significant injuries.

776
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the running back situation is going

777
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: to catch up to them at some point if they

778
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: continue to have problems there. But if they can stay

779
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: healthy going forward, I know their schedule is among the

780
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: easiest in the NFC, and that number one seed, like

781
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: you said, because of the extra playoff team becomes the

782
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: only buy team, and that becomes a huge deal. I

783
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people are going to be picking

784
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, but you know, the Buccaneers got some tough

785
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: games left. You don't know exactly how that's gonna play out.

786
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: It seems like the Bucks and the Seahawks have a

787
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: good chance at it. But I mean, I'm not you know,

788
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm not putting anything necessarily passed the Cardinals at this point.

789
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: They just beat the Seahawks. Obviously that game could have

790
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: gone either way, but at the same time, they did

791
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: win it, And I don't know if the Seahawks are

792
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: gonna be a much different team when the Cardinals play

793
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: him again. And we'll see how kind of what kind

794
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: of health that they have, and it is going to

795
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: be on a short week, but we'll see where that goes.

796
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think if you look at either

797
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks or the Buccaneers, I don't think you're really

798
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: going on not much of a limb at this point. Well,

799
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: and you look at Tampa for example, Cardinals have Buddha Baker,

800
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: your NFC Defensive Player of the Month for October. The

801
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 1: Buccaneers have your NFC Offensive player of the Month for October.

802
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: And Tom Brady who got it dialed in much like

803
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer did after some initial struggles his first year

804
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: in ba's offense. Fifteen touchdown passes, one pick in the

805
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: month of October, and then we all know what Todd

806
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: Bowles is doing with that defense. So as much as

807
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: I admonished Young Kyle earlier for karma and tempting the

808
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: football gods, I should admit that I walked out of

809
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: the Dallas Monday night game and said to Kevin Ray,

810
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys national radio announcer, we'll see you back for

811
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: a playoff game come January. Thinking that the Cowboys still

812
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: had the ability with Andy Dalton to win the NFC East.

813
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm not a bad opinion anymore, but at this point,

814
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: I do think that there is a collision course Cardinals

815
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: and Buccaneers. Cardinals against Bruce Arians and that staff in

816
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: a playoff game. Just to me, it's got to happen.

817
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. We're gonna see that by the end

818
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: of this season. Well, hopefully the Bucks are the one

819
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: seed if your premonition happens, because that mean at least

820
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals win a playoff game and then get to

821
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: face them. And I think I think Tampa Bay is tough.

822
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: I think they're the most well balanced team in the NFC.

823
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: And like you said, Todd Bowles is amazing. Everybody's talking

824
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: about the offense for Tampa Bay and all these big

825
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: names they got, and their defense to me, is the

826
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: best in the NFL right now. And Tampa Bay is

827
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: a group that was middling worse defensively for a long

828
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: time before Todd Bowles got there. I think he's just

829
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: a schematic genius. And I think it also says something

830
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray what he did in Tampa Bay last

831
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: year where the Cardinals lost that game, but they were

832
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: ahead most of it and they should have won. I

833
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: think that says a lot about what Kyler Murray can do.

834
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Speaker 1: Because I've heard a few things about caliber of competition

835
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: this year that Kyler Murray has faced. But I mean,

836
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: he played sixteen games last year and he had some

837
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: good performances against good defenses. So yeah, I think Tampa

838
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Bay is a really good team. I think Seattle is

839
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: a very good team, but it's close enough where I'm

840
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: not exactly sure how it's gonna work out. I just

841
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: I know the seven teams, I just don't know what

842
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: order they're going to be in. That's why when the

843
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Cardinals in that game against Seattle, in that victory on

844
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: Sunday night, when they gave up three hundred and seventy

845
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: seven total yards in the first half and then in

846
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: the second half and overtime only allowed seven points, I said,

847
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: those are Todd Bowles ask halftime adjustments. Your point, Kyle,

848
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 1: I'm with you. The respect love I think we all

849
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: have for Todd Bowles having a firsthand experience with a

850
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: former Cardinals defensive coordinator. That's how good I thought Vans

851
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: Joseph's game plan was and the adjustments to Cardinals defense

852
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: made in that. What's interesting to me as we wrap

853
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: it up with this and this Cardinals game coming up

854
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, is you know, as bad as as

855
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray played against the Rams coming out of the

856
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: bye I am curious. You know, he's one of those guys,

857
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: strikes me, Darren. He likes these little challenges, and I

858
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: think he's going to hear from the media all week

859
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: and there's always that little challenge within the game of

860
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: just getting the W and so I expect a sharp

861
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: game from Kyler Murray just in response. Do I think

862
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: at nauseum you will get oh as bad as the

863
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: Cardinals look coming out of the bye a year ago.

864
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I think that's probably a fair assessment. You know, he

865
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: shouldn't be too hyped up. It's not like all the

866
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: all the noise around him go into the Dallas game,

867
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: but he was going into a prime time game and

868
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: everybody was asking about going home and everything where and

869
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 1: he was a little bit off. I think this is

870
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: this plays perfectly into you know, a good game from him,

871
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: because it's going to be off the radar a little

872
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: bit in terms of a matchup nationally, it's going to

873
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: be a home game, and I agree. I think I

874
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: think it's burned him for a year now that they

875
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: played so poorly out of the by. I know it

876
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: bothers Cliff Kingsbury a lot. I think it really really

877
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 1: bothered Kyler Murray a lot. And even if he didn't

878
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: hear a lot about it, I think there's a little

879
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: voice in the back of his head that's also still going, Dude,

880
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: you were terrible last year. This cannot happen again. And

881
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's what the best players are like.

882
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: They have this little internal voice that ultimately, whether that

883
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: internal voice starts taking fake things from outside and turning

884
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: it into motivation, or if it's just them sell beating

885
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: themselves up. I think he's got that and I think

886
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: he's going to be ultramotivated to play well. Right. Actually

887
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: I lied, I forgot one point. I want to get

888
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: your thoughts on this, Kyle Chase Edmonds. If he indeed

889
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: he is the every down back, what's the realistic expectation

890
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: in your mind? Kyle, you know him about as well

891
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: as anyone. What do you think I think he's gonna shine.

892
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: I think we've seen what he can do in limited

893
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: work and I don't know why that wouldn't translate to

894
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: a bigger picture, since I mean, he hasn't gotten workhorse

895
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: type carries and targets in the NFL, but he did

896
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: it at four of them all the time for like

897
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: four straight years, and he put up big time numbers.

898
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: I know that's small college football, but he's used to

899
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: carrying the ball fifteen twenty times a game, So I

900
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: think you're gonna mix in other guys, but just the

901
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: pure explosiveness that he's shown and the running scheme that

902
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals have, I think he's going to be successful.

903
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: And there's to me, they're certainly not going to be

904
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: this drop off from Kenyan Drake to Chase Edmonds with

905
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 1: what we've seen, and I think that's the prevailing opinion. Really.

906
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of teams would be worried about

907
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: losing their starting running back, but to me, I think

908
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: the minority feels like the Cardinals are going to take

909
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: a big step back without Kenny and Drake because of

910
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: what Chase Edmonds has done, just like I think the

911
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks should run at least a half dozen bubble screens

912
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: a DK metcalf, and I still don't understand why they don't.

913
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,919
Speaker 1: I just I don't get that. I'd love to see

914
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: a half dozen screens, whether it's a middle screen, whether

915
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: you're thrown out into the flat, just get Chase Edmonds

916
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: the ball in the screen, you know, give him in

917
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 1: space a little bit with some blockers. I just love

918
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: watching him set up blocks and work. I mean they've

919
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: basically been doing that. I mean that's they haven't been

920
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: handing him the ball, but he's been getting a lot

921
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: of catches and we've seen how that works. And hopefully

922
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: he's not on the other team's radar as much as

923
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: he could be. But I don't see how he wouldn't be.

924
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Chase Edmonds has been so vital to this

925
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: offense all season, such an important part of it, and

926
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that that's going away anytime soon. The

927
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: most impressive thing to me is the receiving for him,

928
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: because when he came in, it didn't seem like he

929
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: was even an average receiver for a running back, Like

930
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: his hands weren't the best. And I don't know, it

931
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: just didn't. It didn't seem like he was a receiving back.

932
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: It was more of a traditional running the ball, and

933
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 1: now he's splitting into the slot and running routes down field.

934
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: And I think it's a testament to his work ethic.

935
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: I think we've seen for a long time how much

936
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: of a worker he is, and just the way he's

937
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: always in great shape, and he's always a guy who's

938
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: gonna put in the work in the off season and

939
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: always come in and lift, and I think it's paying

940
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: off for him. He's certainly got talent, but the fact

941
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 1: that he puts in the work too and has improved

942
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: that much as a receiver has really been impressive to me.

943
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: It's interesting. On the Big Red Rage Djampre, he said

944
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: the initial way he got everyone's respect on offense was

945
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: the fact that he actually knew all his blitz pickups.

946
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: And that's usually the last thing a rookie running back learns.

947
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: According to DJ there oh, I want to run the ball,

948
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: I want to catch the ball. What do you mean

949
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 1: pick up these blitzers? And and he said that when

950
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: you had the whole mental air chart, that he was

951
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: so far and ahead the best of any of the

952
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: running backs and knowing all his assignments and to do

953
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: it as a rookie right out of the gate. That's

954
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: when all the offensive lineman said, Okay, this kid's a professional.

955
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: He's vested in trying to do, you know, actually be

956
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: reliable and accountable and so forth. And and for his size,

957
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: he is considered reliable and blitz pick up, isn't he? Darren? Yeah?

958
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: I mean I think I think he's turned into a

959
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: very well rounded running back, and when you talk to him,

960
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: you know he's he's he's humbled to an extent, but

961
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: Chase thinks he's good and there's nothing wrong with that.

962
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean that as a compliment. I mean he I

963
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: think he understands what he brings to the table, and

964
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: it's he doesn't hold anything against you know, Kenyan Drake

965
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: being the starter or David Johnson before that. But I

966
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: think Chase Edmonds is completely comfortable with the idea that

967
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: he could be the number one back and do a

968
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: really great job. And he doesn't think he doesn't understand

969
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: why anybody would ever question that, and quite frankly, at

970
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: this point, I don't either. I mean, if you want

971
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: to get on that field with those freaks and risk

972
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: your head being torn off on any you better have

973
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: a certain confidence level that you can compete with, you know,

974
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: with those sort of guys out there. So yeah, I

975
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: think it's necessary. You know, I have no problem with

976
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 1: it that front. So, and I think from a big

977
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 1: picture perspective for the offense, I think this game is

978
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: an important one for them too, because ever since that

979
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: Carolina game, this offense has been really good. It went

980
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: from number twenty five and Football Outsiders Offensive Efficiency and

981
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: now they're up to I think number nine, So it's

982
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: it's been a big jump the last three weeks. Now

983
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 1: you're playing a really good defense. If Kyler can play

984
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: the way he played against Seattle, and if you move

985
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: the ball that well, again, I think it really says

986
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: something about this offense coming together. And at that point

987
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: you can even raise the ex dictations even more when

988
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: you're talking about competing for the division and start getting

989
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: seating in the playoffs, not simply just making it. So

990
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: I think this is a big game for the offense

991
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: to show against the Dolphins team that really just wrecked

992
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: the Rams from start to finish. And I think we

993
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: all agree. I think I say that, and I look

994
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: sort of a skance over there at Kyle. I think

995
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 1: we all agree that the Cardinals really haven't come close

996
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: to playing that maximum execution game on offense, right. I mean,

997
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: they haven't had that game where you said, yeah, okay,

998
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: that's what we were waiting for. We're still waiting for

999
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: that game and offense to a agree, aren't we. That

1000
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: Seattle game was pretty good, and I mean I think

1001
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: they're pretty close. When you score thirty seven against I

1002
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: know the Seahawks defense is not that good, and you

1003
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: go back to the Jets game and the Jets defense

1004
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: isn't that good. So I think they've shown it and

1005
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: if you score thirty three thirty seven points, you're obviously

1006
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: doing something right. But they haven't done that type of

1007
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: thing against a really good defense. So maybe that's the

1008
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: next hurdle, is showing that type of efficiency eight nine

1009
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 1: yards for pass attempts with the running game as well

1010
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: against a good defense. And let's also be and I've

1011
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of gone over this in my head, we talk

1012
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: about doing a game like that against a good defense.

1013
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not easy to have those games

1014
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: against good defenses. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, you know, often

1015
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: does has great games, but most of the time he's

1016
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: thrown for four hundred yards and five touchdowns against the Jets.

1017
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: He's not gonna have a bad game against a really

1018
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: good defense, but he's he's not going to put up

1019
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: the video game numbers. And that's ultimately what this comes

1020
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: down to. When we talk about they haven't hit on

1021
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: all cylinders. I don't think that's wrong. But the idea

1022
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a they're gonna hit a level

1023
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: where they're gonna have these near perfect games weekend and

1024
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: week out, I just don't think that that's gonna happen.

1025
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's you're you're gonna have different matchups and

1026
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: different guys playing well, and you just want to get

1027
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: to a certain level that you're executing, and for this team,

1028
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: a certain level where you're able to score enough points

1029
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: that takes the pressure off a defense that's lost a

1030
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: couple of guys, and it might not be at the

1031
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: very top of the food shape. All right, Well, the

1032
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: Dolphins are in town first time since two twelve, Quick

1033
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Darren who was a Dolphins starting quarterback in two twelve,

1034
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: the last time they played the Cardinals in the Azy.

1035
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: That's an excellent question, Ryan Fitzpatrick honestly don't know. I

1036
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: was hoping you would. I was hoping you would. The game,

1037
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: Jay Feeley kicked the sixty three yard field goal. It

1038
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: could have been they beat the Actually they beat the

1039
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: Dolphins in overtime. I think in that two that's the

1040
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,959
Speaker 1: four and O start. I think that was the last

1041
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: one of the four and O start. Brian Greasy, Bob Greasy,

1042
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: Actually I think it was Bob Greasy. Man I forgot

1043
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: that was the four and no start. And then the

1044
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: nine straight losses. Yeah, it got it got south. I

1045
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: still remember the interview with the head coach I did

1046
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: right after the game, and there was some flexing about

1047
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: the four and os art and then things went south

1048
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: after that, things went south for Yeah, it meant a

1049
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: lot of people that season. So so um, by the way,

1050
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: was it Ryan Tannehill? Indeed, our producer Jim Mo Mondro

1051
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: was Ryan Tannehill. How about that? See, here's what's got

1052
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: to happen. We gotta get back into the studio so

1053
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: Holmes can chime in live once in a while. Well

1054
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: he's been too busy getting us a sponsor, all right.

1055
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,840
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1056
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,440
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