WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Early Impressions From OTAs

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<v Speaker 1>The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Break. I remember Garcia, Derek Eagleton. He

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what he's up to, but it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those days. You guys are used to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how many a show? Says Derek Misston twenty eighteen. If

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<v Speaker 1>you had to guess, um enough for us to not

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<v Speaker 1>miss him? It's honestly, I'm kidding. No, you're absolutely right. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he's just busy, busy man. But you know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be three best friends that or anybody could have. We're

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<v Speaker 1>the three best friends that anyone could happen. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't think about it, like, Okay, I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>go and do the show. He's over there in his

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<v Speaker 1>office talking to me. Yeah. I was like, hey, Derek,

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<v Speaker 1>we're at eleven today, right, And he was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it. But yeah, I think so, And he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look busy to me. I mean, well, well, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine without him. I'm gonna be running the

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<v Speaker 1>show today, or try to. But to all those haters

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<v Speaker 1>out there, just chill out. Derek and not Derek. Derek

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<v Speaker 1>is not here whatever, But Nickiman and David Hellman are

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<v Speaker 1>still here, ready to bring the fire today. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you guys doing. I'm doing great, I'm even better at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at you haters, well, I mean you got Terrence

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<v Speaker 1>Williams here a host in the show's true out the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys don't need to go anywhere. Just

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<v Speaker 1>chill for today's show. You guys are still here, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>and Dave ready to bring it. So let's start off

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<v Speaker 1>talking about OTAs first week. We did get to see

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<v Speaker 1>practice yesterday, Let's talk about the ones that did not

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<v Speaker 1>get to practice. Malie Collins out, you know, recovering from

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<v Speaker 1>the injury, David Irving, they decided to see that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of Yeah, I didn't really quite get the reason why.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to get in physical condition. I mean, I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>you brought that up. Yeah, well, okay, so Belle Collins,

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Williams or hurt. Sean Lee is Sean Lee, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's kind of Tony Romo of the modern era

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<v Speaker 1>now is like you don't need to be out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need to riskue and DeMarcus Lawrence, I think

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of the same thing as like whatever, you

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<v Speaker 1>stay safe. Uh David Irving, though, I mean Garrett basically

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<v Speaker 1>called him fat yesterday. I mean right, yeah, he I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he said, well, that's the thing, like we get

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<v Speaker 1>to see these players and we don't. I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett to tell me that right now he's too fat?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you? Bill Um. Yeah, I thought he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>came back a little, you know, chunkier for a reason. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he would be a good one, husky importly awards,

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<v Speaker 1>we should three play. You're right, I mean, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to criticize a pro athlete for being overweight. I

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<v Speaker 1>would not like out of something because he's got an

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<v Speaker 1>as Yeah, the drops are coming fast and curious today. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, you know, usual when Jason Garrett gets

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<v Speaker 1>up there and he's like, well he's he's got a foot,

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<v Speaker 1>uh he you know something, he's dealing with something, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. But Jason Garrett was just like he's working

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<v Speaker 1>his way back into shape, which you know, the offseason

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<v Speaker 1>program started a month ago, and Captain's workhouse started before that,

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<v Speaker 1>and David Irvings has been here for at least part

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<v Speaker 1>of that, if not the whole thing, Like he's been

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<v Speaker 1>in the building since March, I would guess. So it's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that that's a problem for him. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Garrett is very calculated in his words, so for him

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<v Speaker 1>to say something like that, yeah, kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>little spur, like, Hey, I'm not super thrilled that you

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<v Speaker 1>can't practice right now, big guy. That's kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>I took it. Probably probably no different than than what

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<v Speaker 1>it's always been in years past. You know, I say

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time. We see guys working out a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, you know, through the windows, we see him

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<v Speaker 1>in the training table. We never had that before Forward

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<v Speaker 1>Valley Ranch, and so I'm sure there were plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>guys that came in in March April May and you're like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>looks a little different or bigger than he did or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>We're just getting to see them more, see them practice more. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a normal you know transition for for you

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<v Speaker 1>know when these players in the offseason and how they

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<v Speaker 1>get their bodies ready to play. Now, Terrence Williams, he

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<v Speaker 1>was out with an injury, but he did get arrested

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<v Speaker 1>this past weekend, and we don't need to get into

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<v Speaker 1>all the details. Lead right there, Nick, you wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>story about it. Jason Garrett didn't really comment much on

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday, kind of saying that the team is still

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<v Speaker 1>investigating the case, but a lot of fans want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something that would lead to the team possibly

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<v Speaker 1>cutting him? Um, I can't get over the delivery right there,

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<v Speaker 1>just held out did get arrested. It's it's perfect. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the it's the modern age, you know. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I like sometimes I'm not criticizing the boss, but like

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<v Speaker 1>Derek all act like just because we haven't talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on the show means like nobody knows about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But I mean it's Thursday. He got arrested

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday. Everybody knows what happened to him. So she

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, is he gonna people want to know? I

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<v Speaker 1>get a lot of questions, is this a reason that

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<v Speaker 1>I could possibly lead to the team cutting him? Actually?

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<v Speaker 1>I think right now, as it stands, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>things can also change, and we've seen actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>last year that the commissioner will do his own thing

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to suspension. So so yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's got his own agenda there, which is fine, he's

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<v Speaker 1>the commission I don't think it will because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna get suspended. If he gets suspended by

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL, that affects his guarantees. The guarantees affect how

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<v Speaker 1>important his role is and how much you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep him on the team. So if that happens, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a domino that will start to change some other things.

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<v Speaker 1>As it stands. Right now, he's a guy that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>off of a foot injury. He broken foot. Um, he'll

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<v Speaker 1>he should be able to play, I would. I would

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<v Speaker 1>think he'd be ready at some point in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the start, then earlier, I mean, broken enough,

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<v Speaker 1>I would. I would think the goal would be to

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get him in for that third preseason game, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know that that might be a decent goal. If

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<v Speaker 1>not that this the regular season opener, he's still one

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<v Speaker 1>of your top receivers on the team. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>injury and the arrest really don't affect that right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a lot of track record that suggests that

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<v Speaker 1>anything's going to happen to him. I mean, Nolan Carroll

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<v Speaker 1>actually got hit for DWI this time last year, which

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence did not. That was not the charge and he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't suspended. And then you know the thing I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know we've talked about it, but people forget

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<v Speaker 1>this is like the way terrence is deal is structured

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<v Speaker 1>is not only do you not save any money to

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<v Speaker 1>cut him, but you have to. I mean you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>you're losing money, Like you're paying money to get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of him, which is dumb when you consider that he's

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<v Speaker 1>your most experienced Cowboys receiver. You've got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>really bad player and or a bad locker room guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know Terrence knows this. I mean, Terrence

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<v Speaker 1>has just been the whipping boy for fans all that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, for various reasons. But he's not

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<v Speaker 1>that bad of a player to pay to have him gone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only been a few guys like that that you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta get this guy out of here. Yeah he's

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<v Speaker 1>not in that. No, No, not at all. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like you I mean, anything could happened, but I'd be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be surprised if anything happened to him on

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<v Speaker 1>a disciplinary front from the NFL. I mean, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would be surprised if he wasn't on this team. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>another guy that was highlighted yesterday was Sach Martin. He

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't He didn't practice, and not that he needs to

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<v Speaker 1>practice Sack Martin. It is what it is. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>the team is trying to figure out the whole contract.

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<v Speaker 1>As far as we know, both the team and SAG

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<v Speaker 1>are wanting him to be here. Loan to what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on with a contract right now. Let Dave take

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<v Speaker 1>this because you had a hot opinion on the on

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<v Speaker 1>the field of the day, maybe because it was hot,

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<v Speaker 1>but also it was a good hot take. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how I don't think he should practice at

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<v Speaker 1>all or which part I got. I'd say a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of reckless stuff. I know, Oh oh, I was half kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>but I said I wouldn't be surprised if the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>kind of were like, yeah, set this out. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to be out here. We're working on

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<v Speaker 1>your contract. I mean every time, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about Zach Martin. I think about Sean Lee. Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Martin was part of the play that tore Shawn Lee's

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<v Speaker 1>acl and OTAs in twenty fourteen, certainly wouldn't want something

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<v Speaker 1>like that to happen to Zach, who is arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>best player on this entire team, um, so most consistent. Probably,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't I don't think the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>actually said that to him, But like I doubt anybody's

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<v Speaker 1>losing a ton of sleep that he's not out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of a weird ironic move, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe just coincidence. But you know, we didn't exact anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that locker at the Star. In the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room, they kind of you know, it's just all

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Garrett here where you know, the the corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room or your cornerstones of the team. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was Deaz, it was it was Romo,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Fatten, okay, but whatever, Tyrman, Smith, Dan Bailey

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<v Speaker 1>and whitn Andes of course had had this one spot there,

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<v Speaker 1>um and now with him gone, Zach Martin moved there.

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<v Speaker 1>Which the shocking part there is how Martin and Frederick

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<v Speaker 1>are not like side by side. I know, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was zac now Zach Martin's locker and he wasn't there either,

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<v Speaker 1>so but I actually I don't think it's coincidental, and

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<v Speaker 1>I take it as a very good like And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't get the impression people feel this way, but just

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<v Speaker 1>in case you do, like, I just don't think this

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<v Speaker 1>is an acrimonious situation. I mean, I think Zach Martin

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<v Speaker 1>has had conversations with the team about this, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think they were surprised that he didn't come. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think this is shock in any way. And I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think there's any bad blood that the best guard

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<v Speaker 1>in football's trying to get his contract, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's evidenced by the fact that they did something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that gesture of putting him in that locker of mister cowboy,

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<v Speaker 1>mister modern cowboy. At least, I think that says a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good things. I mean, I think they expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to be here for a long time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he expects to be here for a long time. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's trying to get his contract situation settled

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't change that at all. And this is just another

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<v Speaker 1>time to point out that holdout and this isn't even

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<v Speaker 1>hold out because it's volunteer. It's not a holdout, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people categorize it as that a holdout

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<v Speaker 1>is not a holdout until you start missing significant significant money.

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<v Speaker 1>A game check. Yeah, I mean getting fined here and

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<v Speaker 1>there that. Yeah, that's a big deal when you miss

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<v Speaker 1>a game check. It's just funny how the deals always

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<v Speaker 1>tend to happen that Saturday before that first game. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be which it won't go that far. Well, that's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see because I you know, talking to people

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<v Speaker 1>around yesterday, like a lot of people think that this

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this action him missing OTAs will be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to get a deal done by June, which i'll or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by by the end of the offseason program,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, I'll be interested to see that. And

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<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't happen, I'll be interested to see if

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<v Speaker 1>he misses the mandatory June practices. When when did Lyle

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<v Speaker 1>Collins get his deal? What month? Uh, we were at

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<v Speaker 1>camp August? Yeah? What month did Travis Frederick August? What

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<v Speaker 1>month to Tyrn Smith? Technically I think it was July,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was like July thirtieth, training camp. Yeah, but see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll play old line. Yeah, I'll be I'll be interested,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. When they do deals. I wonder though, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if they've been talking about doing this dude's freaking

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<v Speaker 1>deal since for like it feels like five years. He

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't even been on the team that long. Um, did

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<v Speaker 1>I get my deal with the Cowboys August? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder they do it in Augustus. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>this nudge in the right direction will prompt them to

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<v Speaker 1>do it sooner than that, just like, hey, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's And I'm not privy to this stuff. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>handle the cap I'm not educated on a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just, I mean, I don't understand why it

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<v Speaker 1>can't get done like this week. I mean, they got

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<v Speaker 1>like ten million in cap space, they got a boatload

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<v Speaker 1>of it coming next year, Like they should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to structure it. Their rookies are signed, so like they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even have to worry about that. I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>understand what the hold up is other than just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like agreeing on a number, which I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to do that in the next

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<v Speaker 1>three or four weeks. Well, I guess we'll wait to

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<v Speaker 1>see when that happens. But in the meantime, yesterday filling

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<v Speaker 1>in for him was Chas Green. So you had Tyren Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams, Travis Frederick Chase, and then Lyle Collins. Ye.

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<v Speaker 1>So Connor Williams fan favorite. Ye. What did you guys

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<v Speaker 1>see from him? I mean, from what you saw, did

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<v Speaker 1>you like his first involvement with the veteran Sea. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you watch a little bit more practice than me,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I mean I think with him, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's at this stage it's not about because you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to use the offensive lineman can't do

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<v Speaker 1>what they do, which is push people around. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>do that out here, and if you do, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>guys get hurt. But I think for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, are you lining up where you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Are you mentally prepared to do it? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think the dynamic too right, and I think having

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<v Speaker 1>him out there is a good step there. I'm reluctant

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<v Speaker 1>to compare him to Zach because Zach is a four

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<v Speaker 1>time All Pro who at some point I assume is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the highest paid guard in the league. But

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<v Speaker 1>He reminds me of Zach in the sense that he's

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<v Speaker 1>so athletic for a guard, and like, that's the funnest

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<v Speaker 1>thing about watching Zack Martin play. I mean, it's fun

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<v Speaker 1>watching him all people, but it's so fun watching him

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<v Speaker 1>in space, Like he's so nimble and agile and like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you know when they run screens, he can get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and take people out of the play. Does

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<v Speaker 1>not look like a big guy moving around, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see that in counter Williams. I'm not saying he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be as good as Zach Martin, but he's just he

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<v Speaker 1>does not play football like a hog molly he looks.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's a super athletic dude, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that aspect of his game just I think could be

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<v Speaker 1>so big for them. And you know, when you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>in shorts, that type of stuff kind of shows stands

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<v Speaker 1>out as like how well he moves and stuff like that. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're gonna try to hit every group on the

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<v Speaker 1>roster of what we saw yesterday how they lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we go into break, let's talk about Ezekiel Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he came back looking a little thinner, slimmed

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<v Speaker 1>down his attitude was great in the locker room. He

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<v Speaker 1>was very spoken in during the practice and he said

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<v Speaker 1>that it came to He's like, well, third year, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the time for me to step up as

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<v Speaker 1>a leader. While we're your reactions from this Ezekiel Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>that we saw yesterday to the one that we saw

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<v Speaker 1>at this time last year. For me, the Ezekiel Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>that we see in the locker room has always been professional.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not the time when they were doing spitballs with

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<v Speaker 1>him and Dak, but for the most part, for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part they He's always been a guy that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gets that. I think being at Ohio State, knowing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, being the star. Even he stood up in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you know, his locker or someplace in the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room after you know, last year when he came

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<v Speaker 1>back from suspension, answers the questions. He doesn't love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay, he doesn't have to love it, but he

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<v Speaker 1>does his job. And I'd rather a guy to stand

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<v Speaker 1>up there and say, hey, I'll face the music, and

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<v Speaker 1>he does that. So I And as far as being

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<v Speaker 1>a leader, I think I think him and Dak have

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this. They have to and say, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, We've got to bring the energy. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was a good question surprisingly in the press

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<v Speaker 1>conference yesterday from who asked it about the about the

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<v Speaker 1>the energy that Dez has, Someone's gonna have to replace that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's gonna be a real important

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<v Speaker 1>thing because there's gonna be dog days of camp when

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, all right, who's bringing it today? Dez always

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<v Speaker 1>did that, and I think that's something that Zeke and

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<v Speaker 1>Deck and those guys that are gonna have to do. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it'll be interesting though, because I feel like everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room got asked about that yesterday, just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that. UM I wonder I don't see them

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<v Speaker 1>showing it the same way Dez does. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if anybody's capable of showing it the way it Dez does.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, you can't guard me. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>guard me, you can't. I don't know if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hear those outbursts from forty yards away like we were

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<v Speaker 1>used to with Dead. I don't even know you're but

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<v Speaker 1>one of my all time favorite des lines. But Zeke,

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<v Speaker 1>just Zeke just has this intensity about him, and UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a chip on his shoulder there

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<v Speaker 1>and like he's not going to talk about it. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not going to acknowledge it again. I mean, he's very

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<v Speaker 1>professional in the sense that he always talks to us,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never feel like it's authentic and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be, you know what I mean, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a job duty for him. He's just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get it out of the way. I don't begrudge

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<v Speaker 1>him at but I think Zeke is going to hold

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<v Speaker 1>so much of that away from us, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like he doesn't want to let people in

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<v Speaker 1>on that, but I think it's there. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>an take it out on the safety. Yeah, absolutely, linebacker

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<v Speaker 1>trying to attack being or just jump over him. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, let's take our first break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>white receiver group. Yesterday, Lance lanor Deonta Thompson were lined

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<v Speaker 1>up on the outside with Allen Hurns in the slot.

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<v Speaker 1>Thoughts a first impression of how these guys lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>Lens Lnor, let me tell you this, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>guy that last year and up to today until he

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<v Speaker 1>proves me wrong, I just have not been a fan

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<v Speaker 1>because everything that I remember from last fan of anybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Not true false, absolutely false. I love many people who

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<v Speaker 1>are wait, who are you a fan of many people?

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<v Speaker 1>The topic right now, we're talking about Lance lan More. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>last year, everything that I saw from him were bad things,

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<v Speaker 1>like drops after drops after drop, tell me wrong, tell

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<v Speaker 1>me wrong? Well, no, no, he would no, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>return punts. He had a he had a he had

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<v Speaker 1>a really it's you know what. He wasn't even that

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<v Speaker 1>bad in the preseason, but he got training camp and

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<v Speaker 1>everything that we saw in He got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>hype because of how he got here, which is that

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who puts the roster together loves him. Will

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<v Speaker 1>Will McClay loved Lanceloor's game in college, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hear that and you're like, watch this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, when you get out under the

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<v Speaker 1>bright lights. He had some he made some good plays,

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<v Speaker 1>though you forget about the touchdown that he had. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a couple of good plays, but he was a constant. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an adventure every time he went back there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what people remember the most. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And my point is I've seen more bad things than

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<v Speaker 1>the good. Now this is a guy. I'm giving him

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<v Speaker 1>the benefit of the doo. He still needs some time

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<v Speaker 1>to improve and this might be the year. Yesterday, hearing

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis talk about him, he I mean when he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked, who is that guy in the wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>group that could kind of beats Brian, Jordan didn't compare

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<v Speaker 1>him to this, but he mentioned Lance Lenor out of

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<v Speaker 1>the group, saying, this is an underrated guy. So might

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<v Speaker 1>he be that guy? Who? Could he be that guy

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<v Speaker 1>this year that kind of rises to the top. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to if he wants to make the team,

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<v Speaker 1>because I feel I feel two different types of ways

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<v Speaker 1>about that. One. I think you're absolutely right if there's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean one of there's there's two guys that have

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<v Speaker 1>really like just put in an impressive three maybe three

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<v Speaker 1>an impressive amount of work. Unfortunately one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Switzer. He's gone now. Lance Lenor has been here

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<v Speaker 1>since the season ended, like he just lives in this facility.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Lewis too. Noah Brown is another guy that comes

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<v Speaker 1>to mind. But I mean he's putting in the work

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<v Speaker 1>and like I said, I mean, Will McClay is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he's here. Will McClay loves this game. Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 1>loves him. I mean they work out there and you

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<v Speaker 1>come here on a Saturday, they're here throwing routes together,

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff like that. Um So in that regard, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he is a guy that I would advise you to

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<v Speaker 1>not forget about. On the other hand, just try to

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<v Speaker 1>do the math on this receiver corps. It's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be easy for him. It's just not because I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's about five guys in front of him that

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of sense to make this team, and

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<v Speaker 1>you probably not keep it more than six receivers. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that Lance Lenora, Noah Brown, and anybody else that's

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<v Speaker 1>not on the radar, they're really kind of fighting for

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<v Speaker 1>for maybe one spot. Yeah, because Gallops making it. Terrence

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<v Speaker 1>is making it right right now the way things are,

0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.959
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Terrence is making it, Gallops making it. Cole

0:22:41.000 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Beasley's gonna make it. And then Tavon Austin is still

0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>what's up with him? He's still is he a wide

0:22:49.200 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>receivers making it? I'm making it. I'm just saying I

0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 1>still I'm killing him as a receiver. Yeah, No, I

0:22:57.800 --> 0:22:59.879
<v Speaker 1>mean he's not a running back. He's a receiver. So

0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>he's still in that Tavon Austin on this rout they're

0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna keep six receivers again, Yeah, counting him as a receiver.

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely Okay, So then then you know you're putting a

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:16.040
<v Speaker 1>brown in there. You put um Deonte Thompson, Cedric Wilson,

0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.119
<v Speaker 1>DeAndre Thompson. Did you You didn't even say Alan Hearns.

0:23:20.080 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>He's making it. Alan Herns is making it's right? Of course? Yeah, yeah,

0:23:24.880 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean already thought that was nut which and then

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sitting here saying all ever since they

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>signed him, I'm like, well, Deontay Thompson's basically on a

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.520
<v Speaker 1>vet minimum deal. He doesn't have to make it, and

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't, but he's out there. He was running with

0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 1>the first team a lot yesterday. He's got some speed.

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's so you sit you watch him run some

0:23:42.680 --> 0:23:44.879
<v Speaker 1>go routes and some bubble screens and you're like, no,

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>he'll he'll probably make it too, and all. That's what

0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>That's my point is, all of a sudden, you got

0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>five receivers that you feel pretty good about, and then

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.879
<v Speaker 1>four other ones that are fighting for one spot. I

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>don't forget about Kadi Cannon. You you won't let me,

0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>you won't let me forget about him, so group he

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:03.359
<v Speaker 1>which And I didn't want to correct you because you

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 1>weren't wrong. All those guys did run with the first team.

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 1>But the thing that stood out to me was that

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>like everybody ran with the first Yeah, like I think

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I counted seven they had, and Katie Cannon was one

0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.280
<v Speaker 1>of them. They had Katie Cannon run with the first team.

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Cole Hearns deonte Um the one that stood out, And

0:24:23.119 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>it was the whole lancelin or thing because you know, um,

0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.239
<v Speaker 1>but I wouldn't count him. It always kind of has

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>its way of working itself out, you know, it just

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>were one one way or another injury here or maybe

0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>you know with the way we cover this team or

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the way this team is covered nationally and locally, and um,

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is one drop pass and then the

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>ball to kind of you know, hit your hit you

0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:53.719
<v Speaker 1>in the face mask, and then all of a sudden,

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 1>it's like, well this guy sucks somebody, he's out, you know,

0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 1>and then he'll come back and have an ad R

0:24:57.320 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 1>touchdown and it's like starting so, yeah, this is what

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>we do, but it'll it'll kind of go up and down.

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>We'll watch Lance Lenora just ball out for five days

0:25:07.000 --> 0:25:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in a row at training camp, just catch after catch

0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.200
<v Speaker 1>after catch, and then Deonte Thompson will have four catches

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>for ninety yards in a preseason game. He'll fumble upon

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>an amber be like a see what I've been saying

0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>about ll But hey, no, prove me wrong. That's what

0:25:19.920 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 1>makes it so fun though. And the other thing too,

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is this isn't as exciting as talking about the fifty three,

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>but like, damn near everybody we just talked about as

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.120
<v Speaker 1>eligible for the practice squad twos. I mean, if Lance

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 1>Leonor doesn't make the fifty three, I assuming he doesn't

0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.000
<v Speaker 1>get snatched up, I bet my paycheck he's on the

0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>practice squad. So a lot of guys that they feel

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>good about. And I mean, we've been saying it, but

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it's worth repeating. It's going to be fun to watch. Now.

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>One of the guys I wanted to talk about real quick,

0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and I've seen people asking about him is Michael Gallup.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:53.320
<v Speaker 1>He didn't necessarily have a great day yesterday, and to

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>his defense, Cooper Rush, his passes were just not really great.

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Why do you hate everybody? How's that hating than your house.

0:26:01.000 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I hate saying he didn't have a great day. Hold on,

0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>hold on, passes weren't thrown very well. Now I wanted

0:26:10.200 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>to ask you, what were your observations on him, the

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>way that he was running routes getting open. Okay, that's

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.639
<v Speaker 1>my question, I thought, not hating. I thought, Jesus, I

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>can't watch and give my opinion. I just I'm just

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>giving you crack because you hate everybody. Tell me, tell

0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 1>me about Gallups. I mean, he looked fine. It's it's

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.920
<v Speaker 1>so hard to form good opinion from two hours of

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 1>running around in shorts. But actually, uh, Michael Gallup I

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.120
<v Speaker 1>thought had the play of the day, if you want

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to call it that. He just him and Mike White

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>had a really nice connection. It was like a twenty

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>five yard I don't even like it was a It

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>was like a flag route down near the pylon. UM,

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>and he made a nice over the shoulder catch. Michael.

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>The throw was absolutely beautiful. Um. But that's it's we're

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.199
<v Speaker 1>talking about practice. We're not even really talking about practice.

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about I get it, but if people ask

0:27:04.600 --> 0:27:07.439
<v Speaker 1>about Michael Gallup, you gotta give them at least something.

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.520
<v Speaker 1>The very little things that we get from watching this

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>first practice. This does look into him. This week, the

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys are playing the Lions. The Lions have got the

0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:19.800
<v Speaker 1>ball that we're getting ready, went down, they kicked the

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty five yard field goal and it's three to nothing.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 1>That's where we are in the game. Like anybody worried,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>like not not really, This is all just talking. We're

0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:31.639
<v Speaker 1>four minutes into the game and you know I'm not,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not ready. We're doing a show, so let's

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>let's bring it. Yeah, Dave, we'll trump's gallop. That's well,

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>it's funny. Well, I didn't say anything was wrong with

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>the eyes side. He wasn't thrown a I was gonna

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:47.320
<v Speaker 1>get in this um. We are talking about the game. Somebody,

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>somebody yesterday, I don't remember who it was. It wasn't

0:27:51.520 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it was like a media member. It wasn't like a

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>coach or anything like that. But somebody was like, he's

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>he's a starter, he's taking somebody's job. I'm like, we're

0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>two hours into this thing. What are you talking about?

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>You know how many hamstrings get pulled by these knee jerks?

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it happens all the time. I thought he

0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:09.800
<v Speaker 1>looked fine, slash good. Let me clarify something and not

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>to go keep talking about this something. It's subject because

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm about to move on. But just to clarify, I

0:28:15.160 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 1>was talking about the passes well, Cooper Rush. I like

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Rush. Yesterday he didn't perform that well his pass

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.159
<v Speaker 1>You talk about Dak people asking about Dak press. How

0:28:27.200 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 1>where his passes to me very consistent. He threw good passes.

0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Talk about Cooper Rush where his pass is all great. No,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm just I'm jumpy because me and Rob have been

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.680
<v Speaker 1>fighting for two weeks about who's gonna be the backup quarterbacks.

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>He was like, we should do a segment. Okay, I'm

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>on the Cooper Rush trains. I like Cooper Rush too,

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>but you gotta be honest. I thought Cooper Rush to

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>me was just like, not just like, but similar to

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>what Dak did two years ago. Okay, you know, not

0:28:57.840 --> 0:29:00.440
<v Speaker 1>not not great, but pretty good in the pre in

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.040
<v Speaker 1>that practices, and then you get to the games and

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the offense is moving. Doesn't always look beautiful, but the

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>offense is moving and we're scoring touchdowns and some of

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>these passes look really good and the lights come on.

0:29:10.920 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>He's a gamer, and you can't coach that. You can't

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>just say, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna get that guy

0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>because he's a gamer. I mean, either you have it

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>or you don't. And so Rush definitely has that, and

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't want to be a hater on him,

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 1>but I say this, I don't think it's it's out

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>of the questions that Mike White can't compete with him.

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't have that much experience in regular season, so

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 1>it's he's not that far ahead of him. It'll be interesting.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:38.880
<v Speaker 1>And if you just watch him throw the ball from

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>point eight to point b, I think Mike White throws

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 1>a better ball right now, but Michael Vick threw one

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of the best balls ever and you didn't always know

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.840
<v Speaker 1>where it was gonna go, so that it's not just

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>about how tight the spiral is. Oh to me, no,

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought Dave was gonna say something quiet. That's the

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>first geez, that's fair. That's fair. Okay, Let's move on

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to the defense. To the side of the defense. On

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 1>the secondary, we had Cheeto Byron Anthony Brown at corner

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and in the safety Jeff Heath and Xavier Woods. Happy

0:30:16.520 --> 0:30:23.440
<v Speaker 1>birthday to Cheeto. Yeah, happy birthday. Yeah, oh nice, uh, okay, okay,

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's start off with Byron Jones at corner. Then

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>he looked really good out there length He made a

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 1>really nice play. If we could get Marion Elliot in

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>here to talk about Byron Jones or length hike solid.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Actually I said, Mikes, thanks coach. Byron Jones might have

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>had the play of the day. I think it was

0:30:43.120 --> 0:30:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Deonte Thompson. Dak went deep for somebody, and I mean

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it was you know, it would have been like a

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty thirty yard game and Byron dove and broke it up.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Super athletic kind of you know, dudes, the dudes athletic.

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if if he can get his mind around.

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And actually Jordan Lewis had a great quote about that.

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Somebody was like, you know, how do you feel about

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 1>his transition, you know, moving to cornerback. He's like playing

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>in cornerback like most of his career he played safety

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>for like two or three years. Like, I think he'll

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 1>be okay, so you forget about all the years of

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 1>football that these guys play before they get here. It's

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 1>definitely an exciting time for him in this position, with

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>this new coach and seeing how he's going to be

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>able to evolve here hopefully. And again this is something

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to get too excited about it because,

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 1>for example, last year we saw how great Byron was

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>during training camp and at practices, and then when the game,

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, the season started, it was kind of different.

0:31:38.600 --> 0:31:42.840
<v Speaker 1>But moving on from that worth us to leave Jordan Lewis.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought that up because somebody emailed me

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this morning. This goes back to the point that it's

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 1>day day three of twelve in OTAs. Somebody emailed me

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:58.320
<v Speaker 1>today and basically was like, talk me off the ledge

0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>about Jordan Lewis on the second team, Like why isn't

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 1>he on the first team? They were like, talk me

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 1>off the ledge. I'm panicking, And I just wanted to

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:09.120
<v Speaker 1>be like, you have to get a hobby other than

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.640
<v Speaker 1>like you got a chill, you just you can't be

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that panicked about this in May, which people that are

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>like that are the ones that are listening right now

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:22.320
<v Speaker 1>because they know I'm I'm not saying they're all that way,

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying they're passionate. They're super passionate, but hopefully

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>super intelligent. Because they listen to what we have to say.

0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 1>But what I me the other day thinking that Baron

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Jones is put up that much weight that he can

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 1>really play left tackle, because I compared him to flows

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Out Adams, Like, seriously send me that. We get, we get,

0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So you're saying I

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>had a long talk with Jordan Lewis yet, Yes, yeah,

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>long talk six minutes, um. But the more I talk

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to him, the more I like him. Is just he's

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>got the right he's got the right frame of mind.

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You talk about lancelin or being up here, I think

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you did mention Jordan Lewis as well. Um. And Jordan

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>was telling me that there was a guy that he

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 1>at Michigan, that it works at Michigan and when he

0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>went back for the offseason and talked to him, and

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>he played in the NFL five or six years, and

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 1>he said after about this third year, he just got

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>burnt out and didn't like it. And he was like,

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.440
<v Speaker 1>that's not gonna be me. That's not gonna be me.

0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And and I'm and I'm taking every single day and

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, being thankful for every day. And I

0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>asked him, I said, a year ago, you were dealing

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.200
<v Speaker 1>with other stuff. You know, he had off the field concerns.

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess there was a pending trial or domestical that

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he had hanging over his head. One that once that

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>guy cleared up, he was like, it was I could

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>just play football, and he goes, so this year, the

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>only thing I worry about is like learning the playbook better.

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>And but he thought it was great that Chris Rashard

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.120
<v Speaker 1>told him or just said to everybody. He's an exception

0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to the rule. He said, just because I'm not tall

0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean I can't be physical. So I think he's

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:03.280
<v Speaker 1>saying and doing all the right things. Yeah, And I mean, well,

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:06.000
<v Speaker 1>all right, I just we got some next Dallas Cowboys

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>coming through the line. How we sure do? They're almost

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 1>as tall as me. That's depressing. Tourists come through all

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the time here at the Star, and we got a

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>good looking set of guys here that I gotta I'll

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>see a football under somebody's arms. So they're gonna go

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>out and maybe practice. Yeah, Tamie, I'll let him out

0:34:23.040 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>at OTAs. I'm I'm gonna throw out a hot take

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>after I just criticized one of our fans for having

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:30.319
<v Speaker 1>a hot take. But when it's all said and done,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think Jordan Lewis will be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top three corners on this team. I don't play him

0:34:33.960 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>in the slot, play him outside, I don't know, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care where he was on day two of

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>OTAs because I think he's he hasn't done anything not

0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to be Yeah, well yeah, and I mean, you know,

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Brown's got a year on him. Anthony Brown's got

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>experienced playing on the inside and outside. So whatever, if

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to take a look at him first, I

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:55.080
<v Speaker 1>don't care, but I have Jordan reminds me a lot

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>of Dak just like if you're around him, it's that similar,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he just ex Dud's confidence and poise. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that just kind of like it's you know, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like that quality of like they'll make you a believer.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's I'm sure there have been days where

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Bailey maybe wasn't feeling it in practice, but Chris

0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Jones was and they brought you know, or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Frederick I'm sure has brought the best out of

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin, and Zach Martin's brought the best out of him.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really think Cheeto and Jordan Lewis that you

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<v Speaker 1>see them together a lot, that they're the same age,

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<v Speaker 1>they drafted, the same class, same position. For now, I

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>think that they're they're going to really push each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't even play. I mean, but don't even don't even

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>go there. It wouldn't it wouldn't be fair or right

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to suggest that they're gonna be like perennial pro bowlers.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at the end of the day, we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how it's all gonna work out for them, but there's

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>every reason to be optimistic in those two guys in

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:57.560
<v Speaker 1>terms of what they're doing on the field, the work

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons video commercials and reads. Somebody actually to switch.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody tweeted at me recently and was like I finally

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<v Speaker 1>they are comfy as hell, so shouts out to you,

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<v Speaker 1>good job. Nice. So let's start talking about tight end everyone,

0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 1>And basically we were I were talking about I'm talking

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>about I just know what's true. True. Nice transition there.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's keep in the subject and talk about these

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>big guys that play at tight end. We saw all

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of them. So before I give my own opinion on this,

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and one of the guys that we've been talking about

0:40:15.200 --> 0:40:18.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot or fans are always asking about his Rico Gathers.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw him yesterday. He's back. We saw him in action,

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<v Speaker 1>So impressions of him and how he played and how

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:34.840
<v Speaker 1>he looked along the other guys. Because this is a

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>big problem here. Why is it a problem, Well, it's

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>just not working out well because you have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>for fifteen years that've kind of dominated the position both

0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>on the team and in the NFL, and now he's

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 1>gone and now you got to you gotta replace him.

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what. One of the things that stuck out

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.759
<v Speaker 1>to me the most from everything that happened yesterday was

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 1>we were doing interviews with like Scott Linahan after practice

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and like guys will stay behind and work on their

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.839
<v Speaker 1>footwork and chat with coaches, and it takes like twenty

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.839
<v Speaker 1>minutes for everybody to leave the field. So I look

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>over and all the tight ends are gathered under the tower,

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>in the shade, under the video tower, and there, you know,

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Swaim is like teaching Dalton Schultz about like coming

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.320
<v Speaker 1>out of his breaks and like the right footwork. And

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, this is weird that, like a

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.480
<v Speaker 1>guy in his fourth year is like the elder statesman

0:41:24.520 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of this whole group. But it really it was Swaim

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:31.040
<v Speaker 1>and Schultz and Blake Jarwin and uh some rookie whose

0:41:31.120 --> 0:41:33.279
<v Speaker 1>name I already forgot. I don't even remember who it was.

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just like God, and all of these guys

0:41:36.640 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 1>combined to have fewer seasons in the league than Winton

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>ten coaches. Scott Meyer, Well, he's probably looking around, like

0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>so I have to I mean I have to coach now, Yeah,

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Like I really have to coach these tight ends. I

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>don't have a guy that like when he came in

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<v Speaker 1>for his interview, they were like, you know, Witten's gonna

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>lead the meetings and like just make sure you're on

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:04.880
<v Speaker 1>the plane, yea. And now it's Tia tie, you got

0:42:05.000 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a got a game plan for this, right, coach tight

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>ends right. So from what I've watched yesterday and seeing

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>how everyone render, you know, rend down the field, caught

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball and everything, I like what I saw everyone

0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 1>from everyone hold on except Rico. He's still He's just

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>he's slow. His body. I feel like it's something that

0:42:28.160 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not coming. It's not his fault. I think it's

0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>just the way his body is, his built that way,

0:42:34.000 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's just not working out at that position compared

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to everyone else, how slow he is. And he's still

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:41.799
<v Speaker 1>a quote and I've already done this once this week

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in another capacity, but it's it applies to a lot

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>of things. Bill Parcells just say it all the time.

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>Knowledge is confidence and confidence lets you play fast. And

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 1>I think he's still dealing with the fact that he's

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 1>still learning how to play this game, in this position,

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>this sport. He's still learning how to do it. And

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:00.840
<v Speaker 1>then you're when you're doing a thinking you're not going

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>to be moving athletically. He's probably more athletic than than

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those guys, but he's still trying to

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 1>figure it out. That's why when he makes a catch

0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 1>he falls down the ground that there was one drill

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 1>where they all were looking at and he makes the catch,

0:43:14.640 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>but he goes to the ground. It's still seems to

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:20.000
<v Speaker 1>me that he's going up for rebounds. Yeah, instead of

0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>going running through your route and catching it at the

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 1>at the ten yard line, he's he's stopping around the

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>fifteen high, pointing it, going up, getting it, falling to

0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 1>the ground traveling. I mean, you can't. He needs to

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>still figure out his way to be a football player,

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:39.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's still not there yet. And he looked good

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 1>in those preseason games, but still we all agree that

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>preseason is not the same as a regular season game.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>I had this thought yesterday, and I you know, I

0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>compared Connor Williams to Zach Martin earlier, so whatever, I'll

0:43:51.800 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>compare Rico to Lebron Why not? Okay, But you know

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.239
<v Speaker 1>it's such a everybody loves to joke like Lebron could

0:43:58.239 --> 0:44:00.319
<v Speaker 1>start it tight end for the Browns, he'd be great.

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And maybe he would. I mean, he's one of the

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>best athletes ever. But I just was thinking, you know,

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 1>these guys, they look so big and fast on a

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>basketball court because it's one hundred feet long. You know,

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>it's not a lot of space. I mean, Lebron takes

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>four steps and he's from mid court to the rim.

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And Rico I was similar when he played in basketball.

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 1>Like football, it's such a different sport. I mean it's

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>a hundred yards. The field is fifty three yards wide.

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can cover that much ground, but that's

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 1>only I mean what that's like fifteen yards when you

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>need to run twenty five yards downfield of the end zone.

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, like it's it's so much more space to cover,

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.239
<v Speaker 1>and so like, even if you're explosive, the space just

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of eats you up. And that's just what I

0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:47.080
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about yesterday because I was like, I get

0:44:47.160 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying. I mean, he's not slow, but that

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:53.360
<v Speaker 1>explosiveness just doesn't translate as well to a football field.

0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, you mentioned Lebron a couple weeks ago. He

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>had one of the greatest plays I think I've seen

0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:01.759
<v Speaker 1>in a long long time when he took the ball

0:45:01.800 --> 0:45:05.400
<v Speaker 1>coast to coast and the game winning shot against Toronto.

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Against Toronto just what was going ninety four feet but

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>then pulls up off Buddy and has the touch to

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to kiss it off the glass because most people are

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 1>just going to crack the backboard because they're gonna throw

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it so hard. And that's the same with with with

0:45:19.239 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 1>tied end and what Rico's figuring out how to play

0:45:22.239 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 1>something so physical, so violent, with touch and grace at

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the same time, it is not an easy transition to

0:45:29.360 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>do well. You see, I'm not fully convinced that that

0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 1>is the right spot for him. And yes, and I

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>was talking to Brian about this after while watching him playing,

0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, why not move him somewhere else? Why

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>not tribe him at like the D line or something.

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Put it find him. I mean, he has a body

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:50.200
<v Speaker 1>for it, There's no doubt he's I think he would

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 1>be more successful at something like that. I think, well,

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 1>if we're talking about explosiveness, I mean, that's like the

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.280
<v Speaker 1>key to playing D line. Though I've heard no shortage

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>of people suggests playing him at offensive Yeah, offensive line.

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:03.320
<v Speaker 1>I would I would give him a shot at that

0:46:03.520 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in the line, because the whole thing of him

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>taking off, turning around, running, I mean, he just can't

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.520
<v Speaker 1>you know who this guy is to me is Martellis Bennett.

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Because now Martellis was drafted much higher any but he

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>played basketball and football a little bit too, And and

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Martellis was athletic um, but there was times when he

0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.560
<v Speaker 1>looked kind of slow out there. You don't want a

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 1>screen and stuff. He never really played that athletic. He

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:32.080
<v Speaker 1>played in the league ten years and I don't know

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>how many times he ever just went and dominated a guy,

0:46:35.040 --> 0:46:37.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, high pointed the ball and caught it. And

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I think and Martellis, somebody told him if you know,

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:44.640
<v Speaker 1>at one point he got up to like two eighty,

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>so you gained fifteen twenty more pounds and you'd be

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the best left tackles. Ever, he didn't have

0:46:50.480 --> 0:46:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the mindset for that that that's not what he wanted

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to do. He wants to catch touchdowns, be a star.

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would think Tyrn Smith is pretty much

0:46:58.000 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a star too. But a lot of guys don't have

0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>that mentality to do the dirty work type of stuff.

0:47:03.040 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 1>They want to be in that more glamorous positions. And

0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Rico's there for that similar Yeah, no,

0:47:09.080 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I think, well, and that's right. He likes the spotlight.

0:47:12.560 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're a rapper. We've talked about this

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>and what was his top song. What was that song? Again?

0:47:18.200 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we can say the name of it,

0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 1>can't We don't. That's why he started talking about well

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.319
<v Speaker 1>people asked him in the locker room, and as soon

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>as he started talking about the whole rapping, I'm like,

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>I walked away. No, but he walked away to Coleah.

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about two different rappers on this team.

0:47:35.040 --> 0:47:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Of course there are, I mean, m definitely, no, probably

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>more than that, but just two that are. We've talked

0:47:41.360 --> 0:47:46.680
<v Speaker 1>about this before yesterday, and just affirms my belief like

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:48.360
<v Speaker 1>this is going to come to a head at some

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:51.879
<v Speaker 1>point because Rico Rico said it, We've kind of hinted

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>at it. He said it himself. He's like, I was

0:47:53.280 --> 0:47:55.799
<v Speaker 1>ready to play halfway through last season. I was, I'm

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just ready to come back. So there's a disconnect there

0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>between what he wants and saying what the Cowboys think

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>he can or should do. And I don't know, man,

0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean like he's either gonna step up and just

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>make it impossible for them to keep him off the

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:13.120
<v Speaker 1>fifty three, or he's not going to be here in

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:15.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen. That's what I think. One. I mean, if

0:48:15.200 --> 0:48:16.920
<v Speaker 1>they cut him, I think he'll go somewhere else and

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.160
<v Speaker 1>try to catch on or whatever. But I don't. I

0:48:20.200 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think he's gonna let them keep him on the shelf.

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>We've got more or another. We've got more about Rico

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Gathers coming on the site later today. I think Rob

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 1>a story, So I will say, I mean, you're looking

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:34.320
<v Speaker 1>for little things though. I mean they had him on

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 1>pump protect team yesterday when they did their special teams periods,

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and that's it's the little stuff that's gonna get him

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.120
<v Speaker 1>on the team more so. I mean, we know he

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:44.239
<v Speaker 1>can go up and get the ball. We know that

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.799
<v Speaker 1>it's everything else. So that seemed like a positive step

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:49.480
<v Speaker 1>if he if he can find a way to contribute

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.560
<v Speaker 1>on special heart when you look at everyone else in

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the tight end group, see him make the team. I

0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 1>one way or another, I don't think he'll be on

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:01.840
<v Speaker 1>this team. That's if. And again this is just me

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 1>speculating before we even get to training camp. One way

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 1>or another. That would kind of surprise met fifty three. Yes,

0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:13.279
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, you know, if they caught him and they're like,

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:14.919
<v Speaker 1>we'll put you on the practice squad, I think he'll

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>be like, no thanks, I'll try try my luck elsewhere, Mavericks, Sure,

0:49:20.040 --> 0:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>why not? Okay, let's move on to the linebacker position.

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 1>And yesterday I saw a picture and when I see

0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Sean Lee, Jalen Smith, and Vanderish together, it's a good

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>looking trio. I mean it's like, wow, a lot of beef.

0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Look at this. They look good. But there's still some

0:49:37.080 --> 0:49:40.800
<v Speaker 1>concern about the whole death in that position. Jalen Smith

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.919
<v Speaker 1>was playing without the brace, and it's something that people

0:49:43.960 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>are excited about to finally see him with that thing off.

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Tell me how I mean, he's still struggling a little bit.

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's a perfect transition from what

0:49:53.440 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>we were just talking about. I mean, you know, if

0:49:55.719 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you if you didn't know anything about the tight end position,

0:49:58.320 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>you just looked at the five, You're like, I'll ta

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:02.759
<v Speaker 1>grieko please, I'll take Kim, And just the same with

0:50:02.840 --> 0:50:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the linebacker. So the looks of it is better. Vander

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 1>Esh gives you more more size there, Jaylen Smith, I

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:14.880
<v Speaker 1>mean he he looks the three healthy. Yeah, they're healthy.

0:50:15.040 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what Sean Lee's gonna be able to if

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.919
<v Speaker 1>we were just if we were picking blind, just lying,

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>all ninety of them up and you're just playground style.

0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Jayleen Smith is the first pick, and Lee's not up

0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:32.000
<v Speaker 1>there that high. No, Sean Lee, he's one of the

0:50:32.080 --> 0:50:34.239
<v Speaker 1>best players on this team. He's incredible, but like he

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:38.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't he doesn't look let's terrifying, Like Jayleen Smith, let's

0:50:38.280 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>do that real quick. Let's play the all um off

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>the bus team. You're you're you get two picks the

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:47.200
<v Speaker 1>guys you want to come off the bus first, like

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:50.160
<v Speaker 1>oh this, this guy's ready to play my off the

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 1>bus team is Jalen Smith. Okay, let let somebody else. Okay,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't like this game. Is this something without one pick?

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 1>First overall? And if y'all don't get it and hold on,

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>hold on, okay, let's all right, what do you think?

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I'll tell you the finalists right now. And if

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Ken disagrees with me, well, I mean say, first overall

0:51:10.600 --> 0:51:15.839
<v Speaker 1>you David Irving, David Irving, David Irving. Now apparently yeah,

0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>he's big. I mean, he's got the he's got the hair.

0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I disagree because it's a bus. Tyron is definitely one

0:51:25.600 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>of them. Jalen's one of them. Scarborough bo Scarborough for sure. Yeah, yeah,

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Connor Williams too just big. It's you can't just be big,

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.759
<v Speaker 1>you gotta look freaky like Tyrann Smith is big. But

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that's not what's scary about it that there's no fat

0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>on his body, Zeke. I mean the hair, the hair

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.400
<v Speaker 1>and the beard, like, well, you know what, we got

0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:53.359
<v Speaker 1>four buses and and and we we got big guy bus.

0:51:54.040 --> 0:51:56.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, we even got a media bus. And Shannon's

0:51:56.640 --> 0:51:58.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna win that one for us. I mean, Shannon's off

0:51:58.560 --> 0:52:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the bus first for us, mainly because he sits up there.

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>But um, I think and we're just kind of playing

0:52:06.120 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 1>around a little bit. But but there is something to

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>it about having the look, having the size more than anything.

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Um I agree, David Irving, tyr Tyrant Smith, both Scarborough.

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Now even though Scarborough, have you seen his back? No,

0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:23.919
<v Speaker 1>no walking around the please I don't talk behind his back. Okay,

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:28.640
<v Speaker 1>we're all in the locker room obviously without shirts and

0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.960
<v Speaker 1>walking around. Okay, okay, and so what did you see here,

0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:36.080
<v Speaker 1>peeping Tom? Yeah, what what do you got? No? Like,

0:52:36.320 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 1>his back is absolutely jacked, like there's just like muscles

0:52:40.160 --> 0:52:42.319
<v Speaker 1>on his muscles. It just doesn't look naturally. I mean,

0:52:42.400 --> 0:52:46.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like scary, like this is a character from a movie.

0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:51.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just like not human. He's he looks

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 1>like a line. No, I didn't see that. Actually, okay,

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I got doing interviews, but you're wearing the locker room then.

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>I was doing interviews actually talking to people's I want

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to finish. I want to finish your point, which you know.

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Somebody asked us about Michael Kendricks today the Eagles just

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.959
<v Speaker 1>released him. Just one person asked about that. A few

0:53:08.480 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you but I mean, I mean, okay, you never know

0:53:11.280 --> 0:53:14.040
<v Speaker 1>what's going to happen. You would expect injuries and things

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. But all I feel about as good about

0:53:17.600 --> 0:53:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the linebackers as you could ask me to. Right now.

0:53:20.360 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 1>What's his deal? What's kendricks his deal? You got cut

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>mainly for money reasons? I mean, don't ask Brian, but

0:53:27.880 --> 0:53:31.239
<v Speaker 1>see I don't. I don't see it mainly, Okay, Mike,

0:53:31.360 --> 0:53:33.840
<v Speaker 1>Michael Kendricks is good enough to start somewhere, And the

0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys aren't interested in that. They wouldn't. They're not doing that.

0:53:36.960 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 1>They got guys they feel good about. Yeah. The thing

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 1>about about that is he seems to just be awesome

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 1>against the cowboys. Yes, he's a cowboy killer. I mean

0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:50.719
<v Speaker 1>every time they play him, it's just one playoff for

0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:55.160
<v Speaker 1>another sideline to sideline, and you know, because he get

0:53:55.239 --> 0:53:57.680
<v Speaker 1>hurt a lot. I don't know. I don't know exactly.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I think the main reason he got cut was money

0:53:59.640 --> 0:54:01.160
<v Speaker 1>more than anything else. But I mean, you got you

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:03.759
<v Speaker 1>got three that you hope can start. Three to play two,

0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:06.840
<v Speaker 1>three to play, four to play three. Joe Thomas is

0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:10.880
<v Speaker 1>kicking ass that. I did have a conversation with somebody

0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:13.880
<v Speaker 1>on the football side about him. He was like he

0:54:14.040 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>had like two picks in the first ota of the year.

0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel good about that, dude. And the contract

0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 1>here for Damian Wilson. I just but we we've seen

0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:26.360
<v Speaker 1>that before. We're contract year. Yeah, you might see, you

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:29.520
<v Speaker 1>might get a little bit of improvement. I just there's

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 1>got to be a team that needs linebackers more than

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 1>this team who's like Michael Kendricks come start for us,

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:41.120
<v Speaker 1>whereas we're like, well the Villanova kid too, Shockley Maybe Okay,

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm I gotta do some more homework on my undraft again.

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:49.719
<v Speaker 1>And Iowa State Joel Landing sure you know, oh sure? Yeah. Uh.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Shockley is the guy that just just production just tackles

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.600
<v Speaker 1>off the chart. Tackles for three years, not just one.

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's got to translate to the field. But

0:54:58.600 --> 0:55:02.399
<v Speaker 1>in May, I feel fine about the linebackers. But from

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:06.759
<v Speaker 1>what you watched yesterday and we know Jalen is still

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a question mark there his whole performance on the field

0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.680
<v Speaker 1>from what you got to see yesterday, him being off

0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the brace, how what are some of the things that

0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>he still needs to improve on on the way he moves?

0:55:19.480 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Lateral mobility is always going to be the thing with him.

0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's great that he doesn't have the brace,

0:55:23.960 --> 0:55:26.719
<v Speaker 1>but he's still got to prove that he can do that.

0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>And then and then you know, his instincts too. I

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:31.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, I'm gonna steal a phrase from Brian,

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like he guesses a lot, Like if he gets it,

0:55:34.080 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>then he'll blow the play up. But he's he was

0:55:36.200 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>wrong a lot last year too, So I mean, he's

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>got to work on that. But the ability to like

0:55:40.480 --> 0:55:42.680
<v Speaker 1>diagnose something that's going on on the other side of

0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the field and get over there with his history with

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>his injury, that's going to be the thing. But that's

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:50.800
<v Speaker 1>what intrigues me so much about him is I'm not

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>looking at him as a guy who's going to play

0:55:52.520 --> 0:55:54.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty or sixty snaps at middle linebacker this year. I

0:55:54.960 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to play a little bit of Mike

0:55:57.040 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe in run situations where he really only has to

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.360
<v Speaker 1>worry about coming downhill. I think he's gonna play a

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.959
<v Speaker 1>little bit of Sam. I'm super excited. And Brian wrote

0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.319
<v Speaker 1>about this in his notebook yesterday. You can go read

0:56:08.360 --> 0:56:10.880
<v Speaker 1>about it. He was doing pass rush stuff yesterday. I

0:56:11.000 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 1>think if they commit to it, I think Jalen Smith

0:56:13.920 --> 0:56:16.720
<v Speaker 1>could be like a guy with five or six sacks

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted him to be. I mean, for him,

0:56:19.520 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's just it's just if he doesn't, I

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.239
<v Speaker 1>want to see what happens when he has to run

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.160
<v Speaker 1>more than ten yards. I mean, we have a real

0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:28.440
<v Speaker 1>gallop on the team now, but we've had one for

0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:30.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, last year as well, the way he kind

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of had that little hitch in his run. If that's

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>gone and it seems like it kind of is, I

0:56:34.600 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>think you're gonna see a bunch better player. I agree

0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>with that, but I guess my point is too, is

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of tailor what he does to where

0:56:42.640 --> 0:56:45.319
<v Speaker 1>you're not asking him to run distances like that. I mean,

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, go get the quarterback or plug this running off.

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Its coordinators figure that out and then they make him

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>go run for sure. So we saw it a couple

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 1>of times where he just didn't have that speed when

0:56:56.760 --> 0:56:59.120
<v Speaker 1>when the play broke down to go get him. And

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I he's vowed that he's going to be a better

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<v Speaker 1>player than he was at Notre Dame, and he I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's the I've said this, he's the most optimistic person

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of the world. So I can't I

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<v Speaker 1>can't take him at face value. I hope it's true. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a good feeling about him between the

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<v Speaker 1>different ways you can use him, and he's another year

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<v Speaker 1>removed from that. It doesn't matter who you are when

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<v Speaker 1>something when a first round pick is drafted at your position,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's gonna get your attention. It just it just is.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jalen Smith was everything they wanted him to be

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<v Speaker 1>right now, they wouldn't have drafted drafted in the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>They need a linebacker in the second round or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a good point, I think. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's an animosity. It just means, like, hey watch this,

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<v Speaker 1>Whitten did it for years Witten. They drafted second round

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends and it fueled him. So now we since

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<v Speaker 1>we started kind of late, hand hold on Ken, don't

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<v Speaker 1>get us soft yet. Wow, we we got like two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes less. I'm not done, huh. I just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go around the room real quick. Who was your rookie

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<v Speaker 1>standout from yesterday? Because people are asking about that. Who

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<v Speaker 1>stood out to you yesterday? I know the rookies. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>probably My answer is just gonna keep being Connor because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's getting all the opportunities with the ones

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<v Speaker 1>he's I mean, he's the starting left guard. He just is,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he gets to do that, and he looked

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<v Speaker 1>good and so yeah, yeah, and this this still very

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<v Speaker 1>early and there's only a few positions that you can

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<v Speaker 1>really see some stuff. But I do like the zip

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<v Speaker 1>that Mike White brings there. He's still let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens when the when you know, getting in the games

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. But I do like the way

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<v Speaker 1>he throws the ball, especially on an ounce. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that seems like he can make all the throws.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and that's that's a good start for him. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>can't hit it now? We can? Now we can hit

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<v Speaker 1>it for Ken Garrison, David Hallman and Bergerci see you

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