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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Jim Acosta Show. It's another

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Speaker 1: day that ends and why and the chaos unleashed by

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in America. Trump has fired the Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, who embarrassed herself as the country's top law

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Speaker 1: enforcement official as she attempted to cover up the Epstein

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Speaker 1: files for a president who proceeded to throw her under

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Speaker 1: the bus. Let's discuss with Steve Schmidt of Save America. Steve,

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Speaker 1: great to see you, Great to see you, Jim. And

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Speaker 1: there's the infamous photo of Pam Bonnie. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think this is the image that we'll never forget of

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi when she was testifying at that hearing and

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Speaker 1: the Epstein survivors were just glaring at her with disgust,

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Speaker 1: well deserved discussed and I guess we were just talking

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Speaker 1: about this before we went on the show here today.

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Speaker 2: You were wondering where was the doo. I guess we

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Speaker 2: can report where the doo was when she was fired.

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Speaker 2: This is at about one eleven PM, which is right

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Speaker 2: around the time she was fired. Remember, Pam Bondi family

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Speaker 2: famously said at the at the hearing, the dow was

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Speaker 2: at fifty thousand.

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Speaker 1: Well, the dow was at forty six, three hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty four dollars and sixty six cents at one eleven

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Speaker 1: pm in the afternoon on this April second, the year

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Speaker 1: of Our Lord, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on all of this, Steve.

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Speaker 3: That's a historic certification there, Jim Acosta.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. That's the way it was when she

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Speaker 2: was fired.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 3: Listen, she is a contemptible and I mean contemptible figure,

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Speaker 3: one of the greatest villains in American history, and now

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Speaker 3: defenestrated and out of power, she begins a long period

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Speaker 3: of being investigated, being held accountable, en route to being

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Speaker 3: a disbarred and fully disgraced attorney. That's Pambondi's future. There's

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Speaker 3: no official that has ever so arrogantly comported themselves as she.

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Speaker 2: Did in that here.

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Speaker 4: It was a true sign of the rot that has so.

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Speaker 3: Seeped into the fabric the woodwork of the American democracy,

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Speaker 3: the American the American Republic. An appalling, appalling figure who

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Speaker 3: in the period of time between January the twentieth of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five in April the second of twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 3: that in that time Pereriod that that tenure, that woman.

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Speaker 4: Destroyed utterly.

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Speaker 3: Completely the credibility of the Department of Justice and thus

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Speaker 3: the rule of law in the United States on her watch,

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Speaker 3: her fault and in the end fired tonight, which she

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Speaker 3: is was a person who became the Attorney General of

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Speaker 3: the United States because she was like Mikey from the

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Speaker 3: serial commercial who would eat anything, who gave away or dignity,

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Speaker 3: and became a protector of and cover up for pedophiles. Yes,

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Speaker 3: that's her legacy. They tried to a very high price. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: were for the years of accountabilit coming her way. Another

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Speaker 3: Christine Nome and things are working out great for Christy Nome.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked about this for months now, right, the

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Speaker 3: day of reckoning that comes for all these people, and

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Speaker 3: now it comes from Pam Bondi.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: The dream is dead.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I mean Pam Bondi, who spent her time her tenure

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Speaker 1: as Attorney General, going after the likes of James Comey

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Speaker 1: and Letitia James, but not pedophiles who raped children and

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Speaker 1: were exposed in the Epstein files, and spent much of

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump and keeping those files from being released to

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Speaker 1: the public. And there's still millions of files apparently that

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Speaker 1: have not been released. The top Democrat on the House

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Speaker 1: Oversight Committee, Robert Garcie, has already released a statement saying, Pimbondi,

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Speaker 1: you may be fired, but we still expect you to

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Speaker 1: appear before this committee and tell us what you know.

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Speaker 1: So she's not out of the woods by any stretch.

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Speaker 4: It's just beginning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All the privileges are gone now, all the perks are gone,

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Speaker 3: And so we'll see how her arrogance racks up the

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Speaker 3: next time she's before that committee.

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Speaker 4: We'll see see if she loses a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Of the chip on her shoulder.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a disgraceful, disgraceful woman.

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Speaker 2: Well and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well and and to me, what speaks to the

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Speaker 1: level of corruption that we're dealing with right now is

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Speaker 1: that Trump has fired Pamboni, but he's put Todd Blanche,

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Speaker 1: same Todd Blanche who went in and sprung Gallainne Maxwell

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Speaker 1: Fed Ye, that he's the guy now that is in

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Speaker 3: He's another reckless lightweight super more on from the cast

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Speaker 3: of It with this Star Wars bar scene of broken toys,

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Speaker 3: broken children from Misfit Island, all of them. But I

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Speaker 3: think it's important to recognize here that Trump, even like

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Speaker 3: a Mark Wayne Mullen, I don't think is going to

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Speaker 3: or even to up him, because he can't deal with

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Speaker 3: the confirmation hearings at any level. So we're going to

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Speaker 3: roll with a acting Attorney general. Now, who's the deputy

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Speaker 3: who's utterly corrupt, implicated completely in this Epstein file. You

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Speaker 3: look at his public appearances, you look at his performances.

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Speaker 3: They're rife with contradictions, their rife with dishonest double speak.

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Speaker 4: This is another.

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Speaker 3: Corrupt lawyer running a corrupt department. But behind him is who,

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Speaker 3: and behind them is who. What you're seeing at this

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Speaker 3: point is a president who's insulated from reality, surrounded by sycophants.

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Speaker 3: Nobody can tell him no, nobody can tell him he's wrong,

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Speaker 3: and no one can explain how it can be other

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Speaker 3: than through lies that people are saying. He's at a

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Speaker 3: thirty percent approval level, and so some concession has to

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Speaker 3: be made, and the concession is, well, people screwed something up.

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Speaker 3: At least is intuitive enough to know that. And so

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Speaker 3: his blame instinct is kicking in, and it's time to

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Speaker 3: start throwing over the fruitcakes he's put around him. And

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Speaker 3: Tulca Gabbert is going to be out soon enough next

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Speaker 3: and so all the crazy women around him are going

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Speaker 3: to be out, none of the crazy men at all. Right,

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Speaker 3: he will be dislodged. But this is a moment that

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Speaker 3: all of these top Trump people can look forward to,

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Speaker 3: the moment of their humiliation, the moment where midnight strikes

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Speaker 3: and the ball is over and the glass slipper disappears.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And my sense of it was when I when

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Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and I saw some of

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Speaker 1: And we used to have this sort of theory about

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Speaker 1: Trump during the first administration that he sort of had fires,

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Speaker 1: when he really needed to break the emergency glass and

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Speaker 1: do something like this. And last night he had such

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Speaker 1: You know, with the price of oil going through the roof,

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Speaker 1: roof right now. I mean Trump needed a distraction, and

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Speaker 1: it seems to me he fired Pamboni to you know,

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Speaker 1: the Iran war has become.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, he is he is.

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Speaker 3: Arbitrary, he is capricious, he is volatile, and he is

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Speaker 3: knives to come out. And that's what you're seeing play out.

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Speaker 3: And this is a feature of any type of autocratic regime.

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Speaker 3: Of the feuds that are playing out across Maga, the

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Speaker 3: an incredible thing to watch.

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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 3: He's two hundred and fifteen days out from an election,

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Speaker 3: and wow, is he going to get crushed. We're going

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Speaker 3: to be crushed in this midterm election.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And apparently there was this Easter event over at the

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Speaker 1: whole time, but the White House had a recording of it,

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Speaker 1: and they put some of that video out accidental.

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Speaker 2: They didn't mean to put out all the video, but

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Speaker 1: And so folks were going in there, and of course

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Speaker 1: you know the Internet lifts wherever, so folks were saving

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Speaker 1: this video and posting clips. And one speaking of the

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Speaker 1: election that you just referenced, one of the things that

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump said during this event should absolutely be turned

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Speaker 1: into a TV ad by pro democracy forces, by Democrats

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Speaker 2: Said, because of the war, because he has wars to.

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Speaker 1: Fight, there's not enough money for medicare, medicaid and daycare

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Speaker 1: in this country, and that the states should just run

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Speaker 1: things like medicare and so on.

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Speaker 2: Let's watch this and talk about it.

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Speaker 6: The United States can't take care of daycare.

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Speaker 5: That has to be up to a state.

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Speaker 6: We can't take care of daycare. We're a big country,

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Speaker 6: we have fifty states, we have all these other people

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Speaker 6: You got to let a state take care of daycare.

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Speaker 6: And they should pay for it too. They should pay

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Speaker 6: They have to raise their taxes, but they should pay

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Speaker 6: for us to take care of daycare, medicaid, medicare all

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Speaker 6: these individual things. They can do it on a state basis,

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Speaker 6: you can't do it in a federal.

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Speaker 2: How dumb of a comment is that in a midterm cycle.

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Speaker 3: There's so many different ways to look at that. For sure, Yes,

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Speaker 3: incredible in a midterm cycle. It's not the first time

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Speaker 3: I saw the clip, but this time when I'm watching it,

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Speaker 3: what jumped out to me is his total decrepitude, the

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Speaker 3: slurring of the words, the dropping of the consonants at

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Speaker 3: the at the end of the word uh, the the

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Speaker 3: of his pollor it's just it's it's pale, it's it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's almost like a funeral director waiting in the wings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you can't.

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Speaker 3: We get a vote on this. The American people get

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Speaker 3: a get a vote, And if everyone would just kind

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Speaker 3: of be still in in their and in their space

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Speaker 3: and just like focus on their vote, not what every

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Speaker 4: But you just look at that.

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Speaker 3: On its own merits in this moment in time with

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Speaker 3: the question being should we put a check on him?

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Speaker 3: That's coming up in the election. The overwhelming majority of

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Speaker 3: the country is going.

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Speaker 4: To vote to put a check on him, because.

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 3: And the people around him are out of control. And

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Speaker 3: when he talks about, uh, the price of things, the

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Speaker 3: insanity of it is that everyone in a in a

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Speaker 3: real sense, why the while the while, the really the

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Speaker 3: colligular party down it at mar A Lago never ever stops.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows, everybody feels.

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Speaker 3: How much more expensive everything is, including gas for his

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Speaker 3: war that he started at a call, lost of billions

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Speaker 3: of dollars a day. That's now part of the broken

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Speaker 3: political promise of all time, exactly legacy that he has achieved,

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Speaker 3: your greatest broken political promise in history, A capriciously started,

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Speaker 3: mendaciously started war of choice.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. And Steve I was talking about

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Speaker 2: this the other day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, George Bush's read my lips, no new taxes

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Speaker 7: Jesus taught so many lessons through his death, burial and resurrection.

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Speaker 7: He showed us great leadership, great transformation requires great sacrifice.

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Speaker 7: And mister President, no one has paid the price like

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Speaker 7: you have paid the price. It almost cost you your life.

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Speaker 7: And I believe that the Lord said to tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Happy Easter, everybody happy. So I believe more than

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Speaker 3: Now, there was a whack job Olympics, right she's she's.

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Speaker 4: My Mary Lourettin.

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Speaker 3: Right, if if there's if there is, if there is

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Speaker 3: She can only be fully appreciated when you see her

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Speaker 3: Listen, all of these, all of these grifters, all these

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Speaker 4: When you when you think about this, you just try

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Speaker 3: He's bored with it, right with the with the adulation.

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Speaker 1: People, no question about it. Well, Steve, always great to

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Speaker 2: Despite what we saw at the easter. At the moment

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Speaker 3: six to fiveh four point seven three, that's the firing

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Speaker 3: moment for Pam Bondy.

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Speaker 4: That's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that is that's the time of political death.

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Speaker 2: I guess you could say.

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Speaker 4: I'm of death. Forty six thousand something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 1: It was around one eleven PM, so were sixty six

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Speaker 1: not exactly fifty thousand.

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Speaker 3: Pain But well remember that moment to Tallahassee. For Pambondi,

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Speaker 3: that's a big private sector job. Private she could be

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Speaker 3: working for trump Coin before we.

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Speaker 2: Get I think or the Trump Libraries. We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: one of.

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Speaker 3: The boys companies went running the Trump Library in Miami

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Speaker 3: the right future.

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Speaker 4: For imagine if she's the greater in the lobby.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, she she do a hell of a job.

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Speaker 1: She would be all in on that, I think, no question.

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Speaker 1: Right there next to the Golden statue. Uh, Steve, great

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Speaker 1: to see man, Thanks a lot, Jah appreciate it. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Steve and I were just talking about the

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Speaker 1: prospects of the midterms. Trump has already done tremendous damage

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Speaker 1: to himself. We know up until this point. He did

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Speaker 1: even more damage to himself in that comment about how

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Speaker 1: the country has to pay for wars and it can't

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Speaker 1: pay for Medicare and Medicaid. But of course he is

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Speaker 1: still going to try to meddle in the upcoming midterms.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's good that we're going to turn

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Speaker 1: to David Becker, elections expert. H and David great to

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Speaker 1: talk to you. And you know, one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why we wanted to reach out. You know, Trump tried

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Speaker 1: to do this this executive order earlier this week where

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Speaker 1: you know, he was basically trying to national I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's been total. He can't nationalize the elections, but he's

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Speaker 1: going to try to do it anyway. He's going to

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Speaker 1: try to get the Post Office involved. I mean, your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on mean, obviously you're folks like you were going

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Speaker 1: to say this is unconstitutional, this is illegal. There's no

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Speaker 1: way he can do it. But that doesn't mean he's

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Speaker 1: not going to try.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's not only unconstitutional and illegal and will

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Speaker 8: have no effect on the election. I'll be honest, I

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Speaker 8: think it's somewhat hilarious. It is not a sign of strength.

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Speaker 8: Sign a piece of paper with a sharpie that has

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Speaker 8: no legal effect, rather than try to persuade Congress that,

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Speaker 8: you know, certain laws are required, and he's failed at that.

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Speaker 8: The Save America Act is not going to pass. Congress

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Speaker 8: has left, and it's you know, it's unfortunate that he

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Speaker 8: continues to listen to conspiracy theorists and embrace some of

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Speaker 8: these conspiracy theories, and he was Unfortunately he hasn't learned

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Speaker 8: the lesson from his first executive order. It was almost

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Speaker 8: exactly a year ago that President Trump signed an executive

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Speaker 8: order that purported to dictate to the states when they

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Speaker 8: could receive mail ballots. How voter registrations were done, and

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Speaker 8: even what voting machines they could use, and that invited

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Speaker 8: a slew of lawsuits, and three different federal courts blocked that,

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Speaker 8: all in the same grounds. And those grounds are very simple.

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Speaker 8: It's that the Constitution Article one, section four, Jim, you

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Speaker 8: and I have talked about this before. The elections clause

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Speaker 8: says that the states get to regulate the time, place,

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Speaker 8: and manner of elections. It also gives Congress some power

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Speaker 8: to do that as well, but it does not mention

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Speaker 8: the president, and that is by design. The Framers were

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Speaker 8: very wise. They had just fought a war against a monarch.

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Speaker 8: They if you look at the entire Constitution, one thread

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Speaker 8: that runs through the whole thing is the limits on

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Speaker 8: executive power, and they carved elections out specially and said

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Speaker 8: the president has zero power over elections except that which

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Speaker 8: Congress has expressly authorized. And so despite that, he's signed

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Speaker 8: this new executive order it seeks to tell DHS to

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Speaker 8: create a national citizen slash voter list.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's insane and it's illegal.

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Speaker 8: I mean it's not that. It's not only on constitutional

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Speaker 8: ad violates the Privacy Act and dj as they've been

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Speaker 8: trying to seize this voter data from all of these states.

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Speaker 8: It's now up to thirty states in DC. They've been

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Speaker 8: telling those courts we're not trying to create a voter list.

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Speaker 8: There was a DOJ lawyer, the acting voting chief, just

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Speaker 8: last week who told a court, we're not creating a

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Speaker 8: national voter list. And then then the President comes in

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Speaker 8: and says, hold my beer, I mean, like we are

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Speaker 8: creating a national voter list. That he tries to tell

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Speaker 8: the postal Service you can't deliver ballots to any voter

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Speaker 8: that we haven't blessed at the federal government level. We're

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Speaker 8: going to tell the postal service what packages to deliver

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Speaker 8: and what packages not to deliver. That's not a power

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Speaker 8: the president has. It's illegal. It even tries to say

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Speaker 8: we're going to design the male voting envelopes, which the

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Speaker 8: states have been spending years perfecting, and they're different in

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Speaker 8: different states, depending on you know, the.

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Speaker 5: Rules right elections.

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Speaker 8: So it's I mean, this is a you know, it's

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Speaker 8: a fever dream of an executive order. It has the

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Speaker 8: same legal effect as if I had written it out

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Speaker 8: out on a napkin and crayon. I mean, it's going

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Speaker 8: to be it's going to be stopped very soon. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: the election officials are still trying to deal with this.

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Speaker 8: They're dealing with the uncertainty of possible federal interference, and

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Speaker 8: I talk to them every day. I'm holding a webinar

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Speaker 8: for them tomorrow. But the message I'm going to tell

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Speaker 8: them is, don't worry about this. This is this is

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Speaker 8: a distraction. This has nothing to do with important work

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Speaker 8: you're doing. It's not going to be law. If the

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Speaker 8: president wants something like this to be law, he has

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Speaker 8: to go through Congress well.

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Speaker 1: And it seems to me what he's also trying to

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Speaker 1: do is undermine credibility. He's trying to undermine faith and

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Speaker 1: trust in the election process so when he gets his

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Speaker 1: clock cleaned and when the Republicans get voted out of

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Speaker 1: power in the Congress, that he can cry foul and say, see,

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Speaker 1: I told you all these things are going on. We

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Speaker 1: need to investigate this. I mean, it seems to me

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Speaker 1: that's where we're headed. Where you're going to have the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States to clear that the midterms

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Speaker 1: were not legitimate. And I know that has no legal

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Speaker 1: bearing either, but he is going to plunge the country

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Speaker 1: into a into a he's going to attempt to plunge

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Speaker 1: the country into a crisis.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no question. I mean, there is a It's

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Speaker 8: not just his executive order. He's been doing that for

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Speaker 8: more than fourteen months. He's been spreading disinformation and trying

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Speaker 8: to delegitimize elections for a long long time.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to make predictions on what the outcome

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Speaker 8: of the election will be. I don't know if Republicans

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Speaker 8: are going to do poorly or how poorly they might do.

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Speaker 8: But it does seem like the president thinks Republicans are

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Speaker 8: going to do poorly, right, and whether he's pressuring states

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Speaker 8: to try to squeeze out one more possible Republican district

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Speaker 8: in Congress, or whether he's trying to interfere with the

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Speaker 8: processes the states are doing a very good job of running.

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Speaker 8: That seems designed actually not so much to have a

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Speaker 8: change policy or have a legitimate conversation about how we

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Speaker 8: can run elections in the United States, but more to

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Speaker 8: prepare his base for the argument that the election was stolen,

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Speaker 8: when the reality is our elections are more transparent and

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Speaker 8: secure than they've ever been, and whatever happens, people can

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Speaker 8: be confident that the election officials have done their job

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Speaker 8: will stand scrutiny, just like the twenty twenty, twenty two,

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Speaker 8: and twenty four elections with stood all the scrutiny that

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Speaker 8: was applied.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I keep coming back to this.

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Speaker 1: You know the fact that he won in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't have a problem with that election. There

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Speaker 1: were no complaints. They were let's go check the ballots.

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Speaker 1: Let's open up these boxes and see if there are

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Speaker 1: bamboo ballots that.

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Speaker 5: Look at the ballots and Maridoa boo and.

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Speaker 1: Twenty four Venezuelan Italian conspiracy theory with lasers and satellites

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Speaker 1: or whatever crazy cockamami stuff he was alleging in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear any of that stuff when he won

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. And the other thing that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask about, David is Trump has named Todd

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Speaker 1: Blanche the interim Attorney general after firing Pam Bondi. And

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, Todd Blanche recently said, what's the

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Speaker 1: big deal with having ice at polling stations? Steve Bannon

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Speaker 1: has been saying this lately. What are your thought because

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Speaker 1: we saw ICE being deployed to the airports, and there

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Speaker 1: was a lot of speculation that, well, this is a

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Speaker 1: dry run for the elections. How much of that could

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Speaker 1: have an effect on our elections this fall if they

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Speaker 1: do try to do something like that.

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Speaker 8: So what we see repeatedly is the president trying to

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Speaker 8: flex his muscles over elections and failing. And here, similarly,

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Speaker 8: it is what the president might try or think about doing,

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Speaker 8: and what he can actually do. And I will just

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Speaker 8: tell you it's not going to happen. It is flat

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Speaker 8: out illegal. Eighteen USC. Five ninety two prevents any armed force,

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Speaker 8: armed men, or troops from being at any voting location.

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Speaker 8: It is very clear. It is not only a crime

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Speaker 8: for troops to be there, it is a crime to

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Speaker 8: order troops to be there.

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Speaker 2: And well, governor could say this is a crime. Also.

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Speaker 8: They don't have the capacity to be at the millions

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Speaker 8: of polling places we have, or even in these areas.

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Speaker 8: But I do think there are some people who are

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Speaker 8: very scared of the voters, some people who hate American

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Speaker 8: democracy that want us all to believe that Ice or

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Speaker 8: others might be at the polling place and want us

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Speaker 8: to be afraid. And so it's really important that everyone

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Speaker 8: understand they are not going to be at the polling place.

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Speaker 8: If they're dumb enough to try, it will be blocked

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Speaker 8: immediately by the courts. It might have a backlash effect.

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Speaker 8: And the best way to respond to all of this

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Speaker 8: is not to worry and ring, you know, wring our

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Speaker 8: hands and despair.

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Speaker 4: The best way is.

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Speaker 8: To embrace the the celebration of democracy that each election is.

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Speaker 8: Find ten people, bring them out to vote. Check your registration,

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Speaker 8: make sure you can vote, vote however you want to.

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Speaker 8: It's convenient in person, early mail voting if you want

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Speaker 8: on election day. But this is not going to succeed.

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Speaker 8: And the reason that you know it's not going to

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Speaker 8: see and they're not to succeed and they're not going

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Speaker 8: to do it is because they talk about it endlessly. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I mean, if the troops, do you think they'd give

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Speaker 8: us all warning they were going to deploy troops and

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Speaker 8: just constantly banging the drums.

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Speaker 5: They're not going to do it.

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Speaker 1: And one of my favorite things recently is that you know,

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Speaker 1: Trump was calling mail in voting, mail in cheating, and

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Speaker 1: then it turned out that he had been He had

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Speaker 1: been voting by mail himself. You know, try was voting

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Speaker 1: voting my mail while calling it mail and cheating up.

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Speaker 2: Did you lose me, Tom? Or David? Did David? Did

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Speaker 2: you lose me? He might have lost me.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Jim, I'm I'm not getting audio right now.

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Speaker 1: You're not hearing the audio right now. Oh no, it

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Speaker 1: dropped out all of a sudden. Well, if you can't

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Speaker 1: hop out, hop back in.

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Speaker 2: If not, maybe.

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Speaker 1: We'll just well, we'll table that last question for next time. Goodness,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's nope, might not have him? All right,

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Speaker 1: why don't we Why don't we move on to Tom? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll move on to Tom. And if we can communicate

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Speaker 1: to David to jump back in at some point or well,

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Speaker 1: we'll have Tom.

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Speaker 2: We'll have David next time.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Tom, David going back and forth in my head.

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Speaker 2: That's David Becker.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, maybe if David could drop out and jump

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00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: back in, we'll just ask him that last question. Let's

663
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: see here, if if he jumps back in, we'll get

664
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Speaker 1: him going. Because I do think that that would be

665
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: a great question to ask, and it's important to hear

666
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Speaker 1: an election expert like David Becker talk about why Americans

667
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: should be so confident that this is going to work out, Okay,

668
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: come this fall, because there's been a lot of a

669
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Speaker 1: lot of consternation, a lot of concern that these midterms

670
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: are not going to go smoothly, because Trump is going

671
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: to try to middle metal in these upcoming midterms. And

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Speaker 1: so forgive me, I'm stammering for time here.

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Speaker 2: Let's see David here, are you back?

674
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Speaker 4: I can hear you now.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Okay, I was stalling and stammering there all the

676
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: same time. Not my best performance of all time. But

677
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Speaker 1: I was just going to ask you lastly, David, while

678
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Speaker 1: we were ironing out that technical glitch. Trump was complaining

679
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: the other day about mail in voting and calling it

680
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: mail and cheating, while also casting a mail in ballot

681
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Speaker 1: in a local election in Florida.

682
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw all of that.

683
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Speaker 1: You have all the the data and the expertise on this.

684
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Speaker 1: How prevalent is fraud that is that is conducted, that

685
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Speaker 1: that goes on with mail and voting. It seems to

686
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Speaker 1: me it happens almost never.

687
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, as with fraud generally. I mean, you're

688
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 8: quite right. He chose to cast a mail ballot in

689
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Speaker 8: Palm Beach County, where his residence is. Even though he

690
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 8: was physically president in Poach County, there was early in

691
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 8: person voting going on that day, that weekend that he

692
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 8: was down in Palm Beach. And it's very easy to

693
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Speaker 8: vote early in person in Palm Beach. It's very easy

694
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 8: to vote by mail in Palm Beach and throughout Florida

695
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Speaker 8: and much of the United States. He chose to take

696
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Speaker 8: advantage of a way of casting a ballot that he

697
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Speaker 8: is trying to take away from every other American voter.

698
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Speaker 8: And the president has no special privileges when it comes

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Speaker 8: to voting. The President is a citizen like the rest

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Speaker 8: of us. With regard to fraud, Look, we know how

701
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Speaker 8: much fraud there is in the United States and elections.

702
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Speaker 8: There are many who would like to say we have

703
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Speaker 8: no clue. It's a vast underground conspiracy. No, we actually

704
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 8: know very well. It's not zero, but it's really close

705
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Speaker 8: to zero. Fraud is one of the election fraud is

706
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Speaker 8: one of the easiest things to catch. I say this

707
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 8: as a former voting lawyer with the DOJ. There's a

708
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 8: huge paper trail of evidence, voter registrations presenting yourself physically

709
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 8: to witnesses, if you're impersonating someone, if you're signing an envelope,

710
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 8: you know you've got a signature, and you've got a

711
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 8: document there. With all of this evidence, we know how

712
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 8: much there is, even conservative groups who've looked at this

713
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 8: for decades. The Heritage Foundation has looked at elections since

714
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty and out of tens of billions of ballots

715
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 8: cast during that time, I believe they've documented a total

716
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 8: of one thousand possible cases. I mean, that's just a

717
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 8: remarkably small number. It's a real testament to the American people.

718
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 8: And then just look at what Trump has done and

719
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 8: is fourteen months. I mean they've had fourteen months of

720
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Speaker 8: total control of the federal government, total control of the DOJ.

721
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Speaker 8: And how many fraud prosecutions have they brought? Hardly any?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he sent Telsea Gabbard down to Georgia, and

723
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Speaker 1: I would assume by now we would I heard something

724
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: if there was something popped out of a bag of

725
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: ballots that they grab, you know exactly, and you just

726
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: can't make this stuff up. Well, David, I'm glad you're

727
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: on the case. Please come back and next time for

728
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Speaker 1: some reason. The audio hopefully won't drop off at the

729
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Speaker 1: very end of the interview. But thanks for sticking around

730
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Speaker 1: for that last question. Really appreciate it.

731
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Speaker 5: Good to see it, no problem, great to see it.

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Speaker 2: All right, Thanks David.

733
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Speaker 1: Let's quickly now go to Tom Nichols. I want to

734
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: talk about Trump's speech last night on the war and Iran.

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Speaker 2: Tom. Good to see you, man.

736
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: Hey, Jim, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Thanks a lot for coming on.

738
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Speaker 1: I mean I was talking about this with Steve Schmid

739
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: earlier when he fired Pam BONDI I thought that was

740
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: basically to distract everybody from his disastrous speech last night

741
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: on the war, and it seemed to me I was,

742
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not underwhelmed much when it comes to Trump,

743
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: but I was, like, legit underwhelmed because I thought there

744
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: was going to be.

745
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: Some news to a product, trust to the nation.

746
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: And there just there just wasn't anything. It was just

747
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: rambling lying, you know, talking points.

748
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I wonder, you know, the speech was so disjointed.

749
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Speaker 5: I wonder if if there was a section in there

750
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Speaker 5: about I don't know, you know, pulling out a NATO

751
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 5: or ground forces or something. And they finally just tackled

752
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: him around the legs and said like, I can't just

753
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: get on there and reassure the American public, which he

754
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: didn't do. I mean, you know, as I said in

755
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 5: the piece, to use Trump so in terms, it's kind

756
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 5: of low energy. Yeah, and he uh, he seemed lost. Yeah,

757
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: he seemed lost, and he was kind of gripy and complaining.

758
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 5: I mean, this was not a guy going out there

759
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 5: and saying, listen, I know it's been a tough four weeks.

760
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 5: We've lost some people, but we're winning this war. Here's

761
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 5: what we're gonna do. Here's why we're doing it, this

762
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 5: is why we fight. You know, every president's done that

763
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 5: during military for military operations a lot more constrained and

764
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 5: smaller than this, and they usually sit. I mean, the

765
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Speaker 5: whole thing was just weird. I mean, I didn't put

766
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 5: this in there because I don't want to, you know,

767
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 5: I didn't want the piece to go on for nine

768
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: thousand words about a really weird nineteen minutes. Yeah, but

769
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 5: I you know, you and I both know normally presidents

770
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: sit behind the in the in the oval, behind their desk,

771
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 5: mean forward, they say, good evening, I'm here to talk

772
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 5: to you about something important. Trump did this thing at

773
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 5: the podium with the flags next to them, and you.

774
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: Know he was holding onto the podium there was no odium.

775
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he just didn't look well. He sounded tired,

776
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 5: He was slurring and slushy. There was that whole kind

777
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 5: of digression. At the beginning, he tried to congratulate the

778
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 5: Artemis mission, which almost seems like somebody had, you know,

779
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 5: kind of pasted that to the top of the top

780
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: of his speech. I mean, it was just a mess.

781
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: Look Trump as somebody who used to write speeches for

782
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 5: a politician. Trump has one of the worst speech writing

783
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 5: shops in White House history. I mean, the the speeches,

784
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: if he sticks to them, suck.

785
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: You know, they're terrible.

786
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 5: Reads them as as written. They suck. But then he

787
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 5: riffs and he started to he started to lean on

788
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 5: those verbal tics like no one's ever seen, you know,

789
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 5: the greatest in history, the biggest ever.

790
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: Obama.

791
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Speaker 5: He had to throw that in rock husein Obama. You know,

792
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 5: I think he really came across as kind of defeated.

793
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: I don't mean America being defeated, but just kind of

794
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 5: defeated and down. And if you were an American looking

795
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 5: for information or reassurance. And certainly if you're a military

796
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: family watching to find out what's going on with your

797
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: loved ones, you could not have come away from that

798
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 5: nineteen minutes feeling good. And you know it was the

799
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 5: title of the piece. I think he'd have been better off.

800
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 5: I criticized him. A lot of us have criticized him

801
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 5: for not speaking the American people and making the case.

802
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: In this case, I think you'd have been better off

803
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 5: just saying nothing.

804
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no.

805
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: And I think this has been a problem from the

806
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: from the get go, because it's been a war of

807
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: choice based on false pretenses that he now can't get

808
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: out of with in any kind of clean sort of way.

809
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: He's he's he seems to be previewing escape patches that

810
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: he might go for with different reporters who will call

811
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: him and get comments. He seems to be saying he

812
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: might go ahead and leave Iran's nuclear program basically where

813
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: it stands right now.

814
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: He may leave the He.

815
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Speaker 1: Claimed that he had regime changed last night, but it

816
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: sounds as though he's going to regime change.

817
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 5: That wasn't what the war was about.

818
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: Right, And that's what the war was about.

819
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that that's I'm sorry, I didn't mean interrupt, No, no, no,

820
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 5: but but I mean that's the you know, one of

821
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 5: the things that that is really crazy making about this

822
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: is he is this war was obviously about regime change

823
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 5: from night the first night, the way he addressed the

824
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 5: Iranian people who now have been left hanging, you know,

825
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 5: left in the lurch, and so I think what happened.

826
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 5: There are reports starting to emerge now that he really

827
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: did think this. He pulled a kind of Vladimir Putin moment.

828
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Speaker 5: This will be over in a week, you know, his

829
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 5: rotten regime will just collapse. But also, you know, years

830
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 5: of watching Donald Trump, we all know that the way

831
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 5: Trump deals with problems is he tries to speak things

832
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 5: into reality, right, he tries to manifest things. He says,

833
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 5: the markets are going to go up, you know, it's

834
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 5: all good. COVID's gonna go away.

835
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Speaker 1: And that's what it reminded me of last night when

836
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: he was talking about, well, it's naturally going to reopen

837
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: the straight up hord moves is naturally going to It

838
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 1: reminded me of COVID. It's gonna it's going to disappear.

839
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: It'll be like it'll be like a miracle, and he

840
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: I mean, he doesn't. I think for two reasons. I

841
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: think he really believes in all that positive thinking stuff.

842
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: If I just say it, it kind of manifests into reality.

843
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: But also because he's speaking to his bass and he

844
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: knows that just hammering a simple message over and over again.

845
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure that the maga.

846
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: Folks who watch that came away and said, well, everything's

847
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 5: gonna be fine, straight out horor move is gonna open.

848
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 5: I'm reminded of a friend whose dad, his maga dad,

849
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 5: he watched a Trump speech that was you know, the

850
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 5: usual sharks, electrocution, my uncle, you know, all that stuff,

851
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 5: and he said, Dad, you know, how can you And

852
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 5: he said, I know what he meant. I know what

853
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: he meant. And I think that address last night was

854
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 5: the only people that are going to really get anything

855
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: out of it. Or the people watch and said, I

856
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 5: know what he meant. I understood what he would say.

857
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 5: But for the rest of us, I mean, two to

858
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 5: three weeks. Two weeks is his reflex answer to everything.

859
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: It's always two weeks.

860
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 5: It's always two weeks. And I don't think I think

861
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 5: when you said, I think you're right when you said,

862
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 5: he doesn't know how to get out of this in

863
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 5: any clean way. All of his options now stink. There

864
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 5: is no version unless the regime spontaneously combusts tomorrow, which

865
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: you know, I guess could happen with enough bombing and

866
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: enough people being killed. But it's a big country and

867
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 5: there's a lot of big cities spread across that country,

868
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 5: and I don't you know, this isn't like a snatch

869
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 5: and grab of Nicholas Maduro so absent that all of

870
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: his options are bad. There is no way that we

871
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 5: come out of this with something that we want. That

872
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 5: That was the other thing. It's like what he when

873
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: he said, well, we're going to hit them extremely hard

874
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 5: and in two three weeks this will be over. What

875
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 5: do you think is going to happen in two or

876
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 5: three weeks that's going to be different from where we

877
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: are now.

878
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: It's so true.

879
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: No, And to me, you know when he said to

880
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: the allies last night, what he basically what he said

881
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: in his true social the other day, which is just

882
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: go get.

883
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 2: The oil that you need.

884
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: I've I mean one of the things that I think

885
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: is important, and I know there are a lot of

886
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: people in maggat who just say allies who needs them?

887
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: I mean New York Times put it this way. Mounting

888
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: European frustration with Trump in defiance of his wishes on

889
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: the war with Iran bubbled over on Thursday when President

890
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: Emanuel Macron of France lashed out at the American leader

891
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: for his shifting war goals and his undermining of the

892
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: NATO alliance. And this is what Macrone said, quote, when

893
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: we're serious, we don't say the opposite of what we

894
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: said the day before every day, and maybe one shouldn't

895
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: speak every day.

896
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 5: That was my favorite part the reporters.

897
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: If you create doubt every day about your commitment, you

898
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: hollow it out.

899
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: You know. That was my favorite part of what Macron said.

900
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 5: And it reminds me of the other great source of

901
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 5: political wisdom in the world, The Simpsons, where someone once

902
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 5: said to part, you know, it's okay to have thoughts

903
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 5: you don't express.

904
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: That's what you know.

905
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: Somebody tell me why. Somebody told me wyts, you're the

906
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: master of the unspoken word. And I wish i'd taken

907
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 1: it to herd. I don't take it hard enough, but

908
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: it's so true.

909
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: I think he's you know, I think there's a certain

910
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 5: amount of panic going on, and the problem is there's

911
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 5: no one in the room who can say, all right,

912
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 5: let's you know, Rubio is probably the closest thing they have.

913
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 5: You can say, all right, look, let's everybody take a beat,

914
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 5: let's think about where we go next. The problem is

915
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 5: there's no independent national security advisor. This is the moment,

916
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 5: by the way, and this is going to be a

917
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 5: little bit inside baseball. If you want to know how

918
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 5: Washington works, Jim, you know this stuff for your viewers.

919
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: Normally you have a Secretary of State, a Secretary of Defense,

920
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 5: C I, A D. You know, Odi and I, all

921
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 5: those people, and this the National Security Advisor is the

922
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 5: president's personal guy who says, listen, let me direct some

923
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 5: traffic here. Let's let's get all this input. Then you

924
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 5: and I take a walk, let's think about it. You

925
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 5: know there that doesn't exist, Ye, Rubio is the is

926
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 5: that rubyo? The last guy that did this was Kissinger

927
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 5: during Vietnam. How did that go.

928
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 4: So well?

929
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 5: Not well?

930
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 2: Not well?

931
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 5: You know, there's no honest broker in that room who

932
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 5: can say, thank you, Secretary heg Seth, thank you, Director Gabbard. Now,

933
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 5: if everybody can please leave president, and I you know,

934
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: we're gonna have a to There's no you know, Brazhinski

935
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 5: or you know, uh uh trying to his name just

936
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 5: one of my head. Reagan had a very good national

937
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 5: security advisor for a while. Yeah, yeah, there's no there's

938
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 5: nobody in that room who can say, now, let's sort

939
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 5: this out. Instead, it's a bunch of sickophants, you know,

940
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 5: dancing while their their hat hat bells jingle, trying to

941
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: keep the President's attention and not get.

942
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: Fired right this and like Brent Scocroft and those those types,

943
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: and and and and Trump you're right, doesn't have that.

944
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: And he has Marco Rubio, who wants to it sounds like,

945
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,359
Speaker 1: wants to run for president. And having somebody who wants

946
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: to run for president as your national security advisor may

947
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: not be past idea. Who's also sliding a secretary of State.

948
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 5: And there's a reason the national security advisor isn't Senate confirmed.

949
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 5: He's supposed to be the president's personal advice. Kandy Rice

950
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 5: and you can love her, hater, but George Bush trusted her,

951
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 5: you know. And I think it's just the collapse of

952
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 5: any process and the absence of any adults in the

953
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 5: room is really becoming evident now that we're in a

954
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: real crisis, you know, where the Iranians have basically proven

955
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 5: that they own the Strait at least for now that

956
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 5: they've held off, you know, regime collapse for four weeks

957
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 5: under US Israeli attack. Our allies are all pissed at us,

958
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 5: you know, the collapse. It's all fun in games when

959
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 5: you're you're playing around with you know, trying to harass

960
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: Columbia University. It's another thing entirely when you're war with

961
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 5: ninety two million people. You need some serious people in

962
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 5: the room. And these aren't, you know, to take the

963
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 5: Logan roy line from succession, these are not serious people.

964
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: Not at all.

965
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: No, it's and it's a very unserious bunch. I mean

966
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: evidence by the fact fired the Army chief of staff.

967
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: I just saw that Pete Hexath apparently fired the Army.

968
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 5: Chief of staff in the middle of the war.

969
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: That is, that's been a whole other, uh shit show

970
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: over there.

971
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: You know.

972
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: And and Pete Hegseth, you know, Swan's around the briefing

973
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: room and just speaks of these ridiculously sophomore platitudes that

974
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see how any serious people at

975
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: home can watch this and have any confidence and what

976
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: is happening.

977
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 5: You know, I think there, I think a lot of them.

978
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 5: I think a lot of the presence. Well, my favorite

979
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: line about Pete hegsaths with somebody who said, he always

980
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 5: looks like he's a high school kid trying out for

981
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 5: the play. Yeah, you know, like he's always doing reading

982
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 5: lines and making sure the hand gestures, you know, and

983
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,879
Speaker 5: the play is just right. Yeah, I mean you can

984
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 5: tell that. I mean, look, he's the product of media.

985
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 5: He's a talk show host. People keep saying, well, he

986
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 5: was a warrior, he's a passed over major. You know,

987
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 5: there are a lot of people a lot more military

988
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 5: experience with Pete. Haig said, this is a creature of

989
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 5: the media, with a lot of media training, and he's

990
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 5: been using that to great effect on Donald Trump. Maybe

991
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 5: not on a lot of other people, but on Donald Trump.

992
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 5: But that You're right, this kind of swaning around and

993
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 5: chest thumping. These are people that are trying to keep

994
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 5: their jobs rather than think about how to run a war.

995
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure General Kine and others are trying

996
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 5: to keep this together. But since we're apparently thinking about

997
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 5: some kind of grounding courasion, firing the Army chief of

998
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: Staff while you have forces in the field or you know,

999
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 5: it's not like there was some giant failed operation or something.

1000
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 5: My gut, I'm going to take a complete flyer here,

1001
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 5: Jim and see. I wonder if George squad because General

1002
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 5: George said nothing in public. Yeah, this whole time, he's

1003
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 5: been the good soldier. And I say that not as

1004
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 5: a compliment. You know, there were things that he really

1005
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 5: should have spoken up about, like the very part is

1006
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: in activities at place like work rag and things like that,

1007
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 5: But okay, he kept his head down. I wonder if

1008
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 5: this has to do with heg Seth intervening in the

1009
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 5: army investigation and suspension of those pilots.

1010
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, over the kid Rock thing. Yeah, that was

1011
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: totally insane.

1012
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: That's something that internal to the army, you know, as

1013
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 5: you know I taught military officers for twenty five years. Yeah,

1014
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 5: internal to the army. That's the kind of thing that

1015
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 5: would really piss a lot of people off that you know,

1016
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,479
Speaker 5: the sec def set's policy and he's the public base

1017
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: of the Pentagon and serves the pleasure of the President

1018
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,879
Speaker 5: and all that. But when you're disciplining pilots for some

1019
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 5: bone you know, some some boneheaded move like you know,

1020
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 5: buzzing a rally and then going and Kate caforting about

1021
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 5: in the air for kid Rock, the army wants to

1022
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 5: be they they they the military has its own processes

1023
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 5: for dealing with that kind of shitheaded stuff, and they

1024
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 5: wanted to suspend those pilots and investigate. And hex Seth

1025
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: waved a magic wand and said they're back on duty.

1026
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: Well done, patriots. And I'm going to guess that pissed

1027
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,919
Speaker 5: off a lot of people in the army. Now, whether

1028
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 5: that is whether Randy George spoke up. Interesting the timing,

1029
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 5: you know, I hate to be I hate to be

1030
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 5: Colombo here.

1031
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was, but it's one day later, because

1032
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: you're right, heg Seth tweeted it out yesterday and was

1033
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: trying to act like Donald Trump and say, you know,

1034
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna wave my magic I'm just going to

1035
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 1: tweet out my command here, uh to the military that

1036
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: this suspension has lifted. Investigation over And yeah, I think

1037
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: he did say something like carry on, patriots.

1038
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: It was very it was.

1039
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: Just in juvenile so investigated you shouldn't fly in a

1040
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: patchy helicopter to kid Rock's house.

1041
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 5: A patchy helicopters are not toys, Nor should you do

1042
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 5: a low pass over a partisan demonstration.

1043
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently that happened too.

1044
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: That was that was sort of an uncovered, undercovered element

1045
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: of this, that they were flying around the no King

1046
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: stuff and.

1047
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 5: The Army just you know, in the same way that

1048
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 5: the Navy didn't like Trump reaching down into those war

1049
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 5: crimes trials. Yeah, that a Navy seal should get his

1050
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 5: trident back. I'm sure there were people in the Army

1051
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 5: who said, but again, like I said, it's come doing

1052
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 5: my Columbo thing here.

1053
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 7: You know.

1054
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll see, but I don't know if they're related.

1055
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Next time you're on, Tom, if this comes to pass,

1056
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: you will get a gold Star. So thank thank you

1057
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: very much, Tom, Tom, great to see you, man, thanks

1058
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: for coming on.

1059
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: Good to see you. Jim.

1060
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: Thanks, very good to see it. We'll do it again soon.

1061
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: And I do want to just close it out by

1062
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: pointing out, you know, if things are going so well

1063
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: over at the White House right now, if Trump' speech

1064
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: last night was going over so well, if if his

1065
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: cabinet picks were panning out in any sort of decent way,

1066
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: he would not have been tweeting about Bruce Springsteen.

1067
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: Did you guys see this?

1068
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: He put out a true social post, bad and very

1069
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: boring singer Bruce Springsteen, who looks like a dried up

1070
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: prune who has suffered greatly from the work of a

1071
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: really bad plastic surgeon, has had a long and horrible

1072
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: and incurable case of Trump derangement syndrome, sometimes referred to

1073
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: as TDS. This guy's a total loser who's fews hate

1074
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: against the president, who has won a landslide election.

1075
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

1076
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to go back to this, he says,

1077
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: Bruce Springsteen looks like a dried up prune who has

1078
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: suffered greatly from the work of a really bad plastic surgeon.

1079
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: Okay, this is Donald Trump is saying this.

1080
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is saying this that Bruce Springsteen, Bruce looks

1081
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: like a dried up prune.

1082
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

1083
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: And and maybe we shouldn't be talking about anatomical enhancements

1084
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: this week. Uh you know when when the whole Christy

1085
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: nome thing came up early? Do we have any of

1086
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: those pictures still lying around with are any of the

1087
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: memes available? There were some memes I was sending back

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Speaker 1: and forth with the team. No, this is and by

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Speaker 1: the way, folks, for for any of you you know

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Speaker 1: really uh, you know, you know, very very particular types

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Speaker 1: who are concerned that we shouldn't enhance things on the show.

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Speaker 1: I took this off the internet, but this is it.

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Speaker 1: This is apparently AI enhanced image of the president there

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Speaker 1: he is right there. Apparently he and Brian no oh

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Speaker 1: nome going to the same uh, I don't know, balloon

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Speaker 1: Shop party US A Party City USA, anyway, So you know,

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Speaker 1: you can see the kind of mood that we're in

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Speaker 1: right now, which brings me to this point. The team

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Speaker 1: and I we've been we've been really crushing it. I

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Speaker 1: feel like over these last several weeks, we've been putting

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Speaker 1: in some long hours, putting in some long weeks, put

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Speaker 1: in some great shows. I think today's show is another

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Speaker 1: example of just a really fine program that we that

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Speaker 1: were able to do because of you, the folks at

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Speaker 1: home who support independent media. But we're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: day off tomorrow and I'm taking the team to a

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Speaker 1: baseball game. We're gonna go see the Nats playing the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers over at NAT's Park. So if you're in DC

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Speaker 1: and you see me walking by, come up and say

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Speaker 1: hi and tell us that you watch the show.

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Speaker 2: We'd love to hear that. The team would love to

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Speaker 2: hear that.

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Speaker 1: But I probably will hop on tomorrow morning and do

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Speaker 1: a ask Me anything in one of those amas for

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Speaker 1: the viewers, for the Substack viewers. So for those of

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Speaker 1: you who watch on Substack, we're gonna do a little

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Speaker 1: paid subscriber exclusive tomorrow morning before I head to the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: But I couldn't go without taking.

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Speaker 1: I mean, of all the people to talk about dried

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Speaker 1: up prune and bad plastic surgery, Why is why is

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump talking about this? This seems like maybe not

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Speaker 1: the not the right time in place to make those

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Speaker 1: kinds of comments, given the the the condition that he

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Speaker 1: is I'll just put it this way, very diplomatically, the

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Speaker 1: condition that he is in right now. Yes, he has

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Speaker 1: been anointed as the next coming of Jesus by his

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Speaker 1: batshit crazy spiritual advisor. That doesn't mean he is that

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Speaker 1: way to the rest of us. We know what Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump looks like, and it is very much like a

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Speaker 1: dry up, but not with gigantic breast, not not like

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Speaker 1: that which I saw on the internet this morning and

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Speaker 1: I had to share with all of you. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's been it's been a long week, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to end the program with a few chuckles and give

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Speaker 1: everybody a little heads up that unless barring current events,

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Speaker 1: we probably won't do a full show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We're going to take the team to a ballgame and

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Speaker 2: and we'll send some picks from the ball game.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a quick live outside the park or

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Speaker 1: something like that. We'll see how it plays out. But

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Speaker 1: I don't want to work these guys. We're trying to

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Speaker 1: buy them a beer and tell them thanks. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, thank you for what you do supporting this

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Speaker 1: program day in and day out.

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Speaker 2: We haven't taken a day off in.

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Speaker 1: A while from a full show, so please don't get

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Speaker 1: mad at us. But in the meantime, if you can

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Speaker 1: support independent media, it does make a huge difference. Subscribe,

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Speaker 1: like share this program, all of those things that really

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Speaker 1: does go a long way in supporting the program. Whether

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Speaker 1: you watch on substack and you're a subscriber there, that

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01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: helps tremendously if you're on YouTube and you're watching it

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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: All of that helps a lot.

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Speaker 1: And if you're listening on Apple Podcasts or one of

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Speaker 1: those places where you can listen to us, try to

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Speaker 1: go to YouTube or go to substack and become a subscriber,

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Speaker 1: because those kinds of things do help us put these

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Speaker 1: kinds of programs on every day. Think about the guests

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Speaker 1: that we've had on this week. Jennifer Welch, Steve Schmidt,

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Speaker 1: Tom Nichols, David Becker who we had on today, Larry Sabado,

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Speaker 1: Ty Cobb. We had Ty Cob on a few days

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Speaker 1: ago and made a lot of news. Katie Fang. We've

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Speaker 1: had a lot of great guests this week. Sharon McMahon,

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Speaker 1: new guests on the show, hadn't had her on before.

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Speaker 1: We'll definitely want to have her back. So lots and

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Speaker 1: lots of great people on this week. And it's all

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Speaker 1: possible because of what you guys do in supporting this program.

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Speaker 1: So really really appreciate it. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: all that you do for all of us. But in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, still reporting from Washington, I'm Jim Acosta. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time.

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Speaker 8: Attatatatatastasata