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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House top works dot com. Hey, well to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: This is Molly and I'm Kristen, Kristen. It has been

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Speaker 1: a long, hard winter all over these United States, but

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Speaker 1: now we're almost to March and maybe marked by the

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Speaker 1: time folks out there here this and I hope that

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Speaker 1: spring has sprung. I hope so too. Last weekend we

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Speaker 1: had some gorgeous springy weather and it was fabulous. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're all ready to go back outside and for there

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Speaker 1: to be no snow. Yes, but you know what, what,

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Speaker 1: whether it's snowing or not, we're gonna need some sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: We are going to need some sunscreen. And Kristin, if

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Speaker 1: I had known you're going to sing that way, I

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Speaker 1: would have written a whole SPF song for people to

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Speaker 1: there's so many varieties, there's so many brands, there's so

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Speaker 1: many things to pick from and It would be really

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Speaker 1: helpful if there was a sunscreen song to remind you

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Speaker 1: what to look for. The first thing I usually look

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Speaker 1: at in the sunscreen. I think this is probably true

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Speaker 1: for everybody. The old SPF, which stands for sun Protection Factor,

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Speaker 1: which was introduced in nineteen sixty two to measure a

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Speaker 1: sunscreens effect against UV D raise. Now, UVB is what

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Speaker 1: causes sunburn and UV A is more damaging a long

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Speaker 1: term to the skin. Yeah. So basically, to determine a

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Speaker 1: sunscreens SPF, the testers round up twenty sun sensitive people

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Speaker 1: like a myself, I've burned like a crisp, and measure

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Speaker 1: the amount of UV rays it takes for them to

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Speaker 1: burn without sunscreen, and then they redo the test with sunscreen.

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Speaker 1: This sounds like a terrible test to volunteer for. I

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Speaker 1: would not when I'm scientist. UM. The with sunscreen number

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Speaker 1: is then divided by the without sunscreen number, and the

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Speaker 1: result is rounded down to the nearest five, and then

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Speaker 1: you have the SPF UM. But one thing about SPF

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Speaker 1: numbers we need to warn you guys against just because

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Speaker 1: you're getting a seventy doesn't mean you have some kind

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Speaker 1: Isn't that right, Molly, that's right. In fact, the FDA

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Speaker 1: wanted to say that all sunscreens should just be capt

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Speaker 1: at thirty because the benefits you would get from something

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Speaker 1: like seventy were not exponentially better. I mean, it's not like,

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Speaker 1: you know, thirty five times two a seventy, So it's

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Speaker 1: not like seventy is twice as good as SPF. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For instance, an SPF of fifteen is going to absorb

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Speaker 1: nine point three percent of the UVB rays. An SPF

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Speaker 1: of thirty nine six point seven SPF of fifty, it's

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Speaker 1: point seven percent increase if Mom Maya's is correct, and

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Speaker 1: I cannot verify that it is at this point. But

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Speaker 1: let's go back to this formula, because I think that

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Speaker 1: people shouldn't just say, okay, it takes me fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: put on that formula. Minutes to burn without sunscreen times.

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Speaker 1: out of water. Don't even go there yet, Chris, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting I'm getting hit. This is just sitting in the

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Speaker 1: You should be reapplying very often. Yes, you should reapply

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Speaker 1: for that you're going to look for something called broad

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Speaker 1: spectrum sunscreens and that. But broad spectrum basically just means

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Speaker 1: this also comes down this broad spectrum type of sunscreen

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Speaker 1: You should be good. You should be singing that, Christen,

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Speaker 1: you're doing a song. Alright. Third verse, you go out

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Speaker 1: next question, I have, Christom. Sometimes I see the sunscreens

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Speaker 1: They both mean the same thing, not gonna clog your pores.

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Speaker 1: So basically, you would want to sunscreens. One for your face.

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Speaker 1: things that Christen just said, and then one if your

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Speaker 1: up to protect your skin. Yeah, but don't sacrifice SPF

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Speaker 1: for your face. Oh no, I wasn't suggesting that at all, Kristen. Now,

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Speaker 1: And which is the name of this song that we're

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Speaker 1: writing me okay, it's a country song. And some dermatologists

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Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Molly. Now, lips probably shouldn't amound

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Speaker 1: so put some sunscreen there, ears, tops of ears, tops

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Speaker 1: I've done that to her kayak trip. Bad news. Ready

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Speaker 1: Behind the knees. Oh yeah, because you might be sitting

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Speaker 1: All right, So basically we just need like any any

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Speaker 1: must be covered. SPF thirty now pop quiz Kristen you're

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Speaker 1: this picture? I'm already exposed to the sun, Molly. I

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Speaker 1: unless it's absorbed into your skin. Yeah, now you went swimming.

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Speaker 1: We know there's no such thing as a waterproof, completely

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Speaker 1: waterproof sunscreen. How often do you reply? I know you

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Speaker 1: wrote it about this for a blog for our blog

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Speaker 1: how to Stuff on how Stuff works dot com. Molly,

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