1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: All right, we've got a very special guest on today's podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: When's the last time you were on December? 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 2: Because I think it was a year before. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right, Yeah, that was the show spell 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: It c. 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, we're on because your mom. Your 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: mom was worried about COVID. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: Uh vaccinations, things like that. 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: And what's the result of that. 10 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: She seems fine, she seems good. She has high blood pressure, 11 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: she has to take medication, but other than that, she's good. 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Amber Smith, my wife, I should say that for 13 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: people listening. 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, I just agree. 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 3: That sounds familiar. 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, welcome back. Uh, we've we've been changing. 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: We had an episode that we released last week. We 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: had the brothers, Tyler and Parker, and we've been changing 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: the room around. 20 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: Then. 21 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: We weren't quite happy with how that one looked, so 22 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: it was just very typical advancement and I so we 23 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: move things around again and here we are. Now you're 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: in this seat, which I think it's a good seat. Okay, good, 25 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: there's reason, there's a specific reason why you're there instead 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: of here. Okay, So we're going to be the main 27 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: guest in your chair. 28 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Okay. 29 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: It's interesting because if you look at the how long 30 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: this this podcast is easily twice as much time went 31 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: into the setup of the podcast today. 32 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, easily. Yeah. 33 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: I told her Andrew, I'm gonna get here. I'm gonna 34 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 3: get there a little bit early, and I'll walked in 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,319 Speaker 3: and he goes, wow, you you did mean early, like 36 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: two hours before the podcast. Yeah. 37 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 2: If people knew how many times this room has been 38 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 2: rearranged with different tables and chairs and couches, and. 39 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: They do, oh geez, yeah, oh g's people that have 40 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: watched this podcast long enough. 41 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, real ones know what it looked like in 42 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: the very beginning. Yeah, after you. Speaking of channels, brand 43 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: new channel launches July twenty first, I see launches. That's when. 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: That's the only place you'll be able to get the 45 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 3: video podcast. It's on the brand new Granger Smith podcas 46 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Past YouTube channel. It's linked in the description right here. 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: To go there, click that and hit subscribe. Everything you 48 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 3: watch on the normal Granger Smith channel will be available there, 49 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: but after episode three oh one, which will come out 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: in July twenty first, that will only be on the 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: brand new channel. Yeah, if you're listening everything stays the 52 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: same for you. Everything stays the same exactly like it 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: is right now. But if you watch, that'll be the 54 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: place you need to go. 55 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, which is which is exciting. Did I tell 56 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: you we're doing that? 57 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: No news to you all the time? You learn them 58 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: on the podcast if you listen to the podcast, what's 59 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: going on? 60 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, so we're doing that. And then the big 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: news going on tour with the podcast, right. 62 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: Big big announcement last week taking the podcast on tour. 63 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 2: Did know that? 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: Yes? 65 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 3: You did? You did tell you that. 66 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: I'm excited about that. 67 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it really it's kind of revolving around your 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: book release October What to me? 69 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Fourteenth? 70 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: Fourteenth? Is that date even released? 71 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 2: Not publicly? Is no? 72 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 3: Do I to bleep that out? 73 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I don't know? Actually let me I'll let you know 74 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: after this email, my email, my editor. 75 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't know any edits. 76 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: And then may we release things. That's what we do 77 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: on this podcast. We get new information. 78 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I knew a long time ago. I heard 79 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: it on the podcast. 80 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we we did that with ee Fest released on 81 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: the podcast. That's way before. And I'm going to say 82 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: the title of your book it is, No, you're not shot. 83 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: We can't. They won't let me say it until I 84 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: believe around mid July. 85 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: Really would mid July be the should we should be 86 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: back on the podcast. The very first podcast on the 87 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: new channel could be the release of the title of 88 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 3: the book. 89 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do that. 90 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. It's a good title. It's a good cover. 91 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: I left a hint somewhere recently, but I can't say where, 92 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: and I can't say what. 93 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: Publishers just search search everything. 94 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a great book. So I'm I'm 95 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: very excited about this book because I get to kind 96 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: of take a passenger seat to all of this. And 97 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: you know, with like a river she was with me 98 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: and you were doing the passenger seat thing. But so 99 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: now I'll get to go, for instance, go to New 100 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: York do the shows, and I'll take Lincoln to go 101 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: see tourist things. That's what she did with London last time. 102 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: Because there might be like a thing that like a 103 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: Fox and Friends that I'm needed for and then she'll 104 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: go do all the other things podcasts and dateline and 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: all that, and I won't be there. So we'll go 106 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: see you know, the sites and get some good food 107 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: in New York City. I've never gotten to do that. 108 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 3: Have you forgot? You've you've you've been on a late 109 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 3: night show though, like you've been Kimmel. 110 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I've just anytime I go to LA or 111 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: New York, it's usually wrapped around on the release of something, 112 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and everyone gets to kind of see things, and you 113 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: have your work the whole time, and I work, you know, 114 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: the main things and everything in between, and then I 115 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: go back to a hotel and take a phone call. 116 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: So I don't think. I don't know if I've ever 117 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: been in New York and not. 118 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: Just as a tourist. 119 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, I've definitely never been a tourist, and 120 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: so and I don't honestly, I don't know how much 121 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: time I'll get, but I'm assuming that I'm going to 122 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: get a kind of a sideline gig and take Lincoln 123 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: And because he's never been. 124 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's he want to do? What's he want to see? 125 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: He just really wants to Yeah, so you going to 126 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: New Jersey? Yeah, London got to go twice. So he's like, 127 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: you guys, haven't taken me one time? And then we 128 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: said it in the car the other day and London 129 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 2: was upset that she wasn't going to get to go 130 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: this time. 131 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll want to go see like Yankee Stadium. 132 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: And oh yeah, yeah, the New York is really nice. 133 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hell everything sports related. 134 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 3: You got to see an event, though, if you're going 135 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 3: to msg true, like you know. 136 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: True, you can't. What are you supposed to see? 137 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 3: The outside is just yeah, a building around building. Yeah, 138 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 3: it's weird because it's to me, at least, it's deceiving 139 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: of how big it actually is on the inside just 140 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: by looking at the outside. I mean, outside looks big, 141 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: but you don't realize that there there's a like a 142 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 3: ten thousand seat venue inside on the side of it. 143 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 3: There's then obviously it's like twenty five thousand seat on 144 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: the inside of the main Madison Square garden. Crazy. Yeah, 145 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 3: it's it's much bigger than it looks like it is 146 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: on the outside, in the middle of round of buildings. 147 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: Maybe that's part of it. 148 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so many giant buildings around there. 149 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so who Well, we'll go around and we'll see 150 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: that stuff. But I'm really excited. I've just I've never 151 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: really been the sidekick, so I can't wait to do that. 152 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: Take him to the mPire State Building and let him 153 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: push every button in the elevation. 154 00:06:54,440 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: That's right, yeah, a little elf. Well all right, so 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: you like the format of this, Yeah I do. Yeah. 156 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: I did forget one thing and I realized right when 157 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: we started. So I'm going to jump up and go 158 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: got time, right, I didn't bring my Bible. 159 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 3: Oh do you mind. 160 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: I'll just go grat it. Okay, So you guys talk, okay, 161 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: talk so about your book. 162 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 2: No, I'm just excited because I feel like you asked 163 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: me when we came in it, does it feel like 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: this time is crawling? Or does it feel like it's 165 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: going fast? And I feel like it's crawling. Now. I'm 166 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 2: just so ready to release it and tell everybody. And 167 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: I've just been working on it so hard, and I've 168 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: been meeting with other families who are going through grief 169 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: and loss and I just want to hand it to them, 170 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: and I don't have it to hand to them yet. 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: So I'm just excited about that. 172 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: From day one, from the time you first started writing 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: until right now, how long has that been? 174 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: I had four months to complete the manuscript, so I 175 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: don't know how long that's been till now. 176 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 3: Did you have thoughts before that? You wrote down. Just 177 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: keep notes. 178 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, tons of notes. Yeah. That's what took 179 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: me so long to edit, because I kept realizing I 180 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: needed to add other things that I didn't add in 181 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: there the first time. 182 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: Not that they're the same, but I'm performing the ceremony 183 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: for my oldest daughter's getting married next May, so I 184 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: already have notes that I found, scripture that I go, oh, 185 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: I need that, Oh, I need that, and then at 186 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: some point I'll go rearrange and put it together in 187 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: a in a wedding format. 188 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's happening, it's exciting. Should we say what 189 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: you know? Kind of today? We're talking? Amen and I 190 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: were target earlier. He was like, well, you know, what 191 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: are we going to discuss? I was like, well, we 192 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: could talk about that. It's as we record this June 193 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: the fifth, which is an interesting day for us because 194 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, we get a lot of text on June 195 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: the fourth, and we get a lot of text on 196 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: June the sixth, and and some people actually don't know 197 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: the difference, like some people aren't quite sure or I 198 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: can't remember. 199 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: Which day, and my eternal clock is the sixth. 200 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that you're either the sixth or the 201 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: fourth when when you're one of our friends. And then 202 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: the fifth is a very an interesting day because this 203 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: is the day we look back six years ago today. 204 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: We hadn't slept last night. We were in the hospital. 205 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,239 Speaker 1: A doctor had come in and told us there's no activity. 206 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: Now was the first that was a shock when we 207 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: heard that, because I guess this is all relevant to 208 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: your book coming out, but because we thought he was 209 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: going to be okay, but just going to be really sick. 210 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: That's actually what the nurses told us and the EMTs 211 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: told us. He's going to make it, but he's going 212 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: to be it's going to be a long road to recover. Yeah. 213 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: We thought he would have some brain injuries and disabilities 214 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: and learning things that we would have to work through, 215 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 2: but we never thought that he would not open his eyes. 216 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. 217 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so today is that day, the day in 218 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: the middle where we were just all of our families 219 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: are in the hospital. There's bags and blankets everywhere, everybody's crying, 220 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 2: everybody's praying. We're told we have to say our goodbyes. 221 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: And then that's when the thought of organ donation came up. 222 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Was today, And then so we're doing all the paperwork 223 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: for that, praying over that, crying over that, and then 224 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: they're searching for recipients over the next twenty four hours. 225 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Basically one of the reasons I want to have I 226 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: think I've had the digital Bible for so long in 227 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: the podcast, but I think, you know, especially with the 228 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: recent passing of Phil Robertson, who always had a paper Bible, did. 229 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: The same thing I brought, like, I put it back 230 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: in my bag, my paper Bible. 231 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, by no means of my advocating, one is better 232 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: than the other, because as long as you have the 233 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: Word of God, let's not start talking about you know, 234 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: because are we gonna say, do you have paprus or 235 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: do you have a scroll or But anyway, that's why 236 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: I think if I have this on the table it 237 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: I might go to it quicker than pulling out my 238 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: phone anyway. And so yesterday when people were texting, a 239 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: verse that was coming to my mind yesterday was some 240 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: one to eighteen twenty four that says, this is the 241 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: day that the Lord has made, let us rejoice and 242 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: be glad in it. So that's that's what was coming 243 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: to my mind. Because every that's every day, that's not 244 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: a Friday. That's not a good day. That's not a 245 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: day when everything seems to be okay, or the day 246 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: where you actually feel peace or rest or hope, you 247 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: feel those human feelings. But it's every day. This is 248 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: the day that the Lord has made. Let us rejoice 249 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: and be glad. But guess what, Guess what. Verse twenty 250 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: three says, let me look at let me go back 251 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: to twenty two just to see. Well, yeah, twenty two. 252 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: So what this is talking about is this is the 253 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: eighteen twenty two is the famous verse that Jesus uses. 254 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: It says the stone that the builders rejected has become 255 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the cornerstone, right, And then verse twenty three, this is 256 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: the Lord's doing. It is marvelous in our eyes. This 257 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: is the day that the Lord has made. Let us 258 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: rejoice and be glad in it. Wow, that's today. That's 259 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: today for us, that's today for whoever's listening. That is today, 260 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: That was yesterday, that is tomorrow. As long as we're 261 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: breathing oxygen in this fallen world, and we are not 262 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: yet redeemed, we don't yet have our art or not 263 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: redeem they're not yet glorified, and we don't yet have 264 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: our our glorified bodies. Then we know that we are 265 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: redeemed because of this stone that the builders rejected, which 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: has become the cornerstone in our lives and our foundation. 267 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: And this is the Lord's doing, and that is marvelous 268 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: in our eyes. And so therefore this is the day 269 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: that the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be 270 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: glad in it. Through sorrows, through suffering, through loss, through cancer, 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: through sickness, through through marriages, through through divorces, through babies 272 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: being born and babies being lost, this is the day 273 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: that the Lord has made. Let us be glad or 274 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: rejoice in it. Not because of those circumstances, but because 275 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: of the stone that the builders rejected. That the Lord 276 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: has done this, and it is marvelous at her eyes. 277 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: So good. Yeah, when you said it was the day 278 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: in the middle, I thought of Jesus too. There was 279 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: a day in the middle when everybody thought hope was gone. 280 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: But but God, that's our tune. Fifth, it was really dark. 281 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: So it's also the day that when I've told the 282 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: story so many times and interviews and podcasts of this 283 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: was the day when you and I went to that 284 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: Surindy garden, you know, in the hospital, which which, by 285 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: the way, you've been back many times. I went back 286 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: one time, but You've been back many times to Children's Hospital. 287 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: I've walked out floor that we were in, the room, 288 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: I've passed it, walked out in that garden many times. Yeah, 289 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: and it gets a little easier. Like the first time, 290 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: I started almost hyperventilating. You can smell everything, you know, 291 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: the alcohol and everything that you just had. Those smells 292 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: and the sounds and the beeps, and it's like everything 293 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: comes rushing back to you. Yeah. Yeah, we went out 294 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: in that garden. 295 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: That garden. Tell me the story about the the the 296 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: orange tree, you. 297 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: Remember that, yes, which is no longer there. Yeah, but 298 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 2: they had given us a little placard for river and 299 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: they put it. We went and kind of walked the 300 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: property and picked a spot and there was an orange 301 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: tree there. And when we went there was all these 302 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 2: oranges in the little river. They were like floating down, 303 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: and so we picked that spot and then I went 304 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: back to look at it and I think it was 305 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: like December or something sometime when that when that tree 306 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: should not have had fruit and it was just full 307 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: and maybe it was around that, I don't know when 308 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 2: it was it was something significant. Either it was in 309 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: the winter I should remember this, but or it was 310 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 2: like on a special one of these special days of 311 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: riv but it was some time where it shouldn't have 312 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: had fruit and it did. And so I don't think 313 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: that tree is there anymore, though I need to go back. 314 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: But his little plaque is still there in the ground. 315 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Jesus rebuked the fig tree 316 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: for not having figs when it should have, and you 317 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: saw an orange tree that did have fruit when it 318 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't have. Yes, Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, So that's our 319 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: that's our six five, six five twenty five the day 320 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: as we record this, And and honestly, I don't I 321 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: don't feel that sting. I don't. I had lunch with 322 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: a with a brother the other day. 323 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: I'm just finding a b. 324 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: That hasn't been closed. He's not close to our story. 325 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: It's not close to me. It's not he's not in 326 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: our church. And we had coffee and he goes. So 327 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: is this time of year just really hard? I was like, 328 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: what do you mean? He goes, you know, like first 329 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: week of June? Is that just you just feel that 330 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: weight coming up? And I was like, no, I don't. Actually, yeah, 331 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: there's a certain way I feel every day. But but 332 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: but I guess the first week of June opens, well, 333 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: it's still a beautiful time of year. It always has been. 334 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful time in Texas, and it opens up 335 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: new conversations with people that text. I had some people 336 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: text me yesterday on June fourth, the day we lost Riv, 337 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: that we're choking up, and they were like, just thinking 338 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: about you and Amber and just pray for you every day, 339 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: and it's just today is so heavy for me and 340 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine. And I just want to let 341 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know that with that day, that what 342 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: it has meant to so many since then, and oh 343 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: my brother, thank you, love you. 344 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: But we're good. 345 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, today is the day that the Lord has made 346 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: you know. 347 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: I understand what people are saying about it, but I 348 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: get it that wait, you know, because for the first 349 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: couple of years, your body keeps the score. Your body. 350 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 2: I would remember, Mike, even though I didn't might not 351 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 2: know the exact day, I could just feel it in 352 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: my body like sadness, you know, over through June sixth. 353 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: But now Psalm forty, which has been on my heart 354 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: this week is. I waited patiently for the Lord. He 355 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: inclined to me and heard my cry. He drew me 356 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: up from the pit of destruction. I'm gonna start crying 357 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: out of the miriy bog and set my feet upon 358 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 2: a rock, making my steps secure. He put a new 359 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: song in my mouth, a song of praise to our God. 360 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Many will see and fear and put their trust in 361 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: the Lord. And so June fifth was really dark, and 362 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: I did not have a song of praise in my mouth. 363 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: But by going to him and reading his word and 364 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: learning who he reveals himself to be, the god of 365 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: all the day, all of our days, he will put 366 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: a new song in your mouth. And he has put 367 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: a song in my mouth, a song of praise that, Yes, 368 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: this is the day that the Lord has made. He 369 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: knew when he formed river in my stomach what his 370 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: day would be, and it was June fourth. And so 371 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 2: when we come to know that and come to trust 372 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: in the Lord, we can rejoice even on the really 373 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: hard days. 374 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Incomprehensible to those who have no hope what you. 375 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Just read, Yeah, hey, look at the benefit of having 376 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: to sit on the table. Like now we're all gonna 377 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: start pulling at it absolutely. You know, a long time ago, 378 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: Tyler and I started eeee apparel. It just came from 379 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: originally just artist merch from Granger Smith from my artist days. 380 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: And when EEE Apparel started, we built eee dot com, 381 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: but we had no idea what to do with it, 382 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: like how would we possibly sell a T shirt? I 383 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: think the first one we had was I've got a 384 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: tough schedule Earl Dibbles Junior. It didn't take long before 385 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: we realized we were in over our head and we 386 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: needed a company to host this for us. That's when 387 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: we turned to Shopify. Shopify is basically the checkout portion 388 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: of your website and they handle all of that. 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I get that message on my phone. 413 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: I'll say happy birthday, happy anniversary, whatever personalized message you 414 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: want me to say to whoever you want me to 415 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: say it to. I send it to you and you 416 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: give it to them. It's pretty cool. Go to cameo 417 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: dot com slash granger Smith and I got to tell 418 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: you all an incredible story, incredible story that has all 419 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: you know it has to do with all of this. 420 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: But I don't want to use his name. I probably 421 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't use this country either. But there was a there 422 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: is a There was a man from a far away 423 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: foreign country that's a fan of ye Ye Okay. And 424 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: he is from a country where religion is dead. It 425 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: is one of the darkest corners of the world. To religion, 426 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: not not just any not just Christianity, but any religion. 427 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 3: It is. 428 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: It is dark, and that darkness reflects in childbearing. There's 429 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: kit the kids are non existent, that the the population 430 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: is getting older anyway. 431 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: But it's it's also. 432 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: A very very beautiful country and very beautiful culture and 433 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: very beautiful people. But this particular man, I'm going to 434 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: protect his name in his country. He came to ye 435 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: Fest and he speaks he speaks good English. But he said, 436 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 1: I came. This is my second time to Texas, and 437 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: I came the first time to Texas to Billy Bob's 438 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: Oh Wow, And he said, you you told me. He said, 439 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm not going anywhere. I'm just gonna be 440 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: on a different stage. My question is to you, ye 441 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: ye nation. Will you follow me to the next stage? 442 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: And he said. I thought to myself, yes, I will 443 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: follow you anywhere. Okay, And he said, but but now 444 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 1: I see where you're the stage that you're on, that 445 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: the ministry, this Christianity thing, and I'm interested and I 446 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,719 Speaker 1: want to know, but I don't. I don't really know. 447 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Yeah, And so I 448 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: took him into the Eye Farm, took him into the office. First. 449 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: I invited him. When he told me that, I invited 450 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: him to come shadow me and be with me all 451 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: day Thursday, which is the day we loaded in and 452 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: sound checked. I said, just come with me, just sit 453 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: with me. We'll have some good conversations. And I took 454 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: him into the office of the Ye Farm and I 455 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: shared the gospel with them, and I told him as 456 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,239 Speaker 1: practically as I could, everything that I was doing and 457 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: what the Lord has done to me, and the most 458 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: practical way possible using the Bible. And you know, I 459 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: told him what Jesus had done and how we had 460 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: rebelled and we've been sinners, and we have we have 461 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: turned our back on God as rebels. And God came 462 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: into his own creation as the son, and Jesus lives 463 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: the perfect life, fulfills the law perfectly in a way 464 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: that we couldn't. Is obedient to the father, goes to 465 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: the cross, dies and becomes a substitute that we is. 466 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: He pays the penalty of our sin, like like someone 467 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: coming and paying paying all of our parking fines. He 468 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: pays it so that the judge says, you're fine, is paid, 469 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: You're free to go. You are free now. And Jesus 470 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: did that and then rose on the third day, saying 471 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: all who look to him turn from their sins will 472 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: be saved. It explained all this, and he goes, I 473 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: want this, That's what I want. I was like, okay, 474 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: there's a cost to this, you know, like it's going 475 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: to be very difficult. You can't I can't just tell 476 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: you that you're gonna go back to your country and 477 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: everything's going to be better. It actually might be worse now. 478 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: You're going back to a very dark country when it 479 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: comes to this. And and he said, that's okay, I 480 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: want this, And so in my mind I'm like, okay, 481 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. But that doesn't just tell me you 482 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: just made a decision for Christ and count your name 483 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: in the Lamb's Book of Life, like I don't know, 484 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: so it would. I don't want to give you a 485 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: false assurance. So I said, okay, prove it to me. 486 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: Let's start Matthew one tomorrow. We got on signaled together. 487 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: He said, I want you to read Matthew one and 488 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: then message me thoughts, comments, whatever he does. 489 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 3: Questions done, yeah. 490 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Questions, comments, observations done. So we started that and I 491 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: said it every day, don't skip a day, do the 492 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: next chapter every day. Matthew two, Matthew three, at you four, 493 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: five six, he's he you know, he does his time 494 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: in Texas, goes back to his home country, still reading, 495 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: still on signal every day, doing this thing, doing this 496 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: talking every day. I'm wrestling through things with him, and 497 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: I just start watching him grow. 498 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 499 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: It is crazy. So I've got the text thread up 500 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: here now. But then he gets to Matthew twenty six 501 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: and he starts and by the way, he came to 502 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: Amaus with us. He didn't even worshiped us two times, 503 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: he he So he says things like that Matthew twenty six, 504 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: twenty four, Betraying Jesus would be the biggest sin I 505 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: could imagine. So he's reading through and he says, this 506 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: is interesting. He says in Matthew twenty six thirty three, 507 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: he says, why Jesus said Peter would deny him three 508 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: times in his broken English? And then he says, Dash 509 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: just found out how after reading verse sixty nine to 510 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: seventy five. So he's like learning the story in real time. 511 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: But then listen to this Matthew twenty six forty one quote, 512 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: keep watching pray so that you do not give into temptation, 513 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: for the spirit is willing, but the body is weak. 514 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: And he says, that's what I need. All I need, 515 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: all I can do. I am emotional for hate on 516 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: my sin, and I'm eager to Jesus to save me, 517 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: save me from my sin. I don't want to do 518 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: anything else, especially things that might disappoint God, who gave 519 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: me great things. I think he's saved, he's saved. 520 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: He came in and Granger was getting ready to take 521 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 2: a shower, and he came in. He's like, babe, I 522 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: think he's converted. 523 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: I think he's converted. Amazing, and then he's one Matthew 524 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven today. This was today, and he's just he's 525 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: he says, Matthew twenty seven, twenty one. So the governor 526 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: asked again, which one, which one of these two do 527 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: you want me to release to you? The crowd shouted 528 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: back Barabbas, and he says, where is everyone, those who 529 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: had sickness killed by Jesus? Where are they? He gets it, 530 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: are they betraying Jesus as well? Yeah, it's amazing. 531 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 2: It is amazing to see how he's reading it like 532 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: a story, like a book, and it is. It's the 533 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: greatest story that there ever has been that we are 534 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: a part of. But just seeing somebody read it like 535 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: that versus our western culture. 536 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: Of how we kind of we don't know many people 537 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: here who have never read that or no, that's right, 538 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: parts of that story, or have been in, you know, 539 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 3: a sermon. We're going through the Book of Matthew, and 540 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: you get five verses or six verses, right, and they 541 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 3: hear that one, they don't come for two more weeks, 542 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: three more weeks, and then they come back and they 543 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 3: get the next, you know, on down and they kind 544 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 3: of piece it together. He's reading it through. 545 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, last night he said the story. He said, I 546 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: want to share something with you. I helped my coworker 547 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: who was mentally struggling at work. I brought him words 548 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: from the Bible and strength I equipped by Jesus Christ, 549 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: our savior. Jesus showed his strength not just enough to 550 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: help sinner like me, but also give strength to my neighbor. 551 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: Oh my God, I can't thank Jesus enough for his words. 552 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: And then he says, Granger, I believe God sent me 553 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: to Texas twice to see the truth. And the truth 554 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: is his love. 555 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 3: Dude, incredible. 556 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, you know, I'm messaging him and 557 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: so around the world. And so then tomorrow, which is today, 558 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: we'll start He'll start Matthew twenty eight. Oh cool. And 559 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: then I said, tomorrow we start Mark and we'll keep going. 560 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, you're going to tell him that 561 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: it starts over from a different person. 562 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I love that, yeah, because we'll 563 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: get in from a different perspective. And this is just 564 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: so exciting to think, that's amazing of this man right 565 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: now in a dark culture that's religiously dead, and he's 566 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: in his apartment. 567 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: We were saying, it's like a never ending story where 568 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 2: the little boy runs in, he hides and puts the 569 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: cover over his head and opens it up and can't 570 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: wait to see what happens next. 571 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Yes, so who knows what the Lord is going to do? 572 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: Full circle here because of River, because of the Lord's 573 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: work through River. On June fourth, twenty nineteen, who knows 574 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: what is now starting in this country of darkness? The 575 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: light has arrived. 576 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 3: That's awesome. That's so cool. Yeah, that's so cool. 577 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't know you might maybe it was listening right now, 578 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: But I love your body. I love you man. 579 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, my Betty is Yeah, I know he. 580 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: Is going to do some emails. Yeah. 581 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: First one's from anonymous, dear granger. I started watching a 582 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 3: Rise with Amber after my husband's alcoholism was confirmed, and 583 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 3: I was searching for healing through alanon a similar and 584 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: similar support. I'm grateful to share that my husband has 585 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 3: now been sober for three years, but the journey hasn't 586 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: been easy for either of us. I also struggled with 587 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 3: postpartum depression and a traumatic birth. In your book resonated 588 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 3: with me deeply. It was comforting to finally feel understood, 589 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 3: especially after a time when I felt abandoned by God 590 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: and even faced the thoughts of ending my life. Right now, 591 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: I'm struggling with how to balance loving and supporting my 592 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 3: husband without enabling him. I feel overwhelmed by household responsibilities, 593 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: and I get frustrated when he relaxes while I manage 594 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 3: everything else. Antimis, he has also been hard to rebuild, 595 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: as most of it before was when he was drunk, 596 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: and I still wrestle with a feeling like my emotional 597 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: needs aren't being met. We attend a wonderful church and 598 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: are both raised in the faith, but sometimes I'm unsure 599 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: of where my husband stands spiritually, especially since he's more 600 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: private about his faith and gets annoyed when I try 601 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: to have deeper, deeper conversations. I just want to know 602 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: that his heart is in a good place. If you 603 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 3: share this on the podcast, please keep my name in 604 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 3: church Anonymous. Thank you for the encouragement you and Amber provide. 605 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: Your willingness to share how God God brings good through 606 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: pain has meant so much to me. So really, the 607 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 3: question here was you know, how to. 608 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: You know? 609 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 3: I guess connect with her husband and find out where 610 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: he is spiritually. I guess with just without asking. 611 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and most likely he's not converted. It's 612 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of what we talked about with the on the 613 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: Brother podcast last week. Yeah, we and and that's the 614 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: difference in talking to a guy from a foreign country 615 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: is it's so black and white that you it's easier 616 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: to see. But in America, we have we have hints 617 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: of godliness, we have hints of Christianity, you know, we 618 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: we wear crosses around our neck and we say biblical things. 619 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: And and then we start thinking, like she said, you're 620 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: raised in the Christian home, you just start thinking you 621 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: inherited it. And I'm I'm of the thinking that if 622 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: he's not converted, and let me see, let me say 623 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: it again, If he is, then he has been discipled 624 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: so poorly that nothing is there's no fruit from it, 625 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: and that's dangerous in itself. So I tend to think 626 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: that he's not converted. Otherwise, like Paul Washer says, if 627 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: you if I came in here and said, sorry, guys'm 628 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: a little bit late. A macchruck hit me out in 629 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: the in the road outside, but I made it, you'd 630 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: be like, I don't believe you. If you encountered a 631 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: big truck on the highway that hits you, you would 632 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: be impacted by that in a way that everyone around 633 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: you knows it. And if you come into contact with 634 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: a holy god that has given you a new heart 635 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: and changed your desires, then everyone around you knows something's 636 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: different with this guy. I don't think anybody would look 637 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: at me in twenty fifteen and then look at me 638 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: now and go it seems like the same. He's the same, 639 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: does the same thing, says the same things, likes the 640 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: same things. That's not true. So that's what I think 641 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: about this this He thoughts, Yeah. 642 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: She was just saying she's struggling with how to balance 643 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: loving and supporting him without enabling him. That she feels 644 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: overwhelmed by household responsibilities and gets frustrated when he relaxes 645 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: while she manages everything. And I think that's a very 646 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: natural feeling to feel overwhelmed. I don't know, does she 647 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: say they have kids as a mom or handling all 648 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: the all the the head. 649 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 3: Okay, that's only only information about children. 650 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: I think for that A lot of that, at least 651 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: for me, is shifting my thoughts on that to where 652 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: I don't sit in frustration, which I do a lot 653 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: because I'm human and I sin, but shifting it to 654 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: where I get to do these things for my kids 655 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 2: and or my and my husband, and praying through those 656 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 2: things while I'm folding laundry or while I'm doing dishes 657 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: and the and realizing our role that God has given 658 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: us as women in the home is to be the helper, 659 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: is to submit and surrender and support and love and 660 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 2: care for and nurture and take care of the home. 661 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 2: And that's that's something I've had to learn and I'm 662 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: still I'm still growing through that and feeling conviction through that, 663 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 2: but praying through that as well, because that's a that's 664 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: an honor to be able to do for the Lord 665 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: into instead of just always seeing that I'm serving my husband, 666 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm serving my children, but I'm ultimately serving God. And 667 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: so if I can shift my perspective that way, it 668 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: helps me to be frustrated. It helps me to do 669 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: things with joy. Not to say that we don't get overwhelmed, 670 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 2: because I do, and I get frustrated and askedin and 671 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: I ask for forgiveness, but also communication. I've learned with Grainger, 672 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: Granger doesn't know what I need if I don't ask him. 673 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 2: So if I'm just frustrated doing all the things and 674 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 2: rage cleaning, he doesn't know, So just maybe try to 675 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: have a conversation with your husband and say, Hey, I'm 676 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: feeling very overwhelmed. Can you please help me with this? 677 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: A simple conversation could help a lot of bitterness. And Yeah, 678 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: I think that would help a little bit. 679 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: It's great. Sarah is the next email. Hey Granger, I'm sixteen. 680 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: I'm looking for some advice. I've been dating my boyfriend 681 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,919 Speaker 3: for about eight months and he has a close He 682 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: has a close female friend who's also part of our 683 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 3: friend group. We're both Christians. He's newer to the faith 684 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 3: and I've been a Christian my whole life. I've known 685 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: his friend for about two years, though we're not super close. 686 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: She played a big part in helping him come to faith, 687 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 3: which I'm really thankful for. But now that we're dating, 688 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: I feel like their relationship ship needs to change. Sometimes 689 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 3: it feels like he crosses the line between friendship and 690 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: something more, even if he doesn't see it that way. 691 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: I don't want them to stop being friends, but also 692 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: think he needs to realize that while God used her 693 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: to help him, she's not the one who saved him. 694 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,400 Speaker 3: I've talked to my best friend about it and receives 695 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 3: and receive some helpful biblical advice. But I'd really appreciate 696 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: your perspective to thank you for what you do. Your 697 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 3: music and podcast have been a blessing and seeing you 698 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: preach live was amazing. God bless. 699 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: Because so if this was live and we're in the 700 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: theater somewhere, it's boyfriend, right, So yeah, i'd say, how 701 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 1: long does it say? Eight months? 702 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: And they're sixteen? 703 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: And they're sixteen, Yeah, I mean like this is this 704 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: is uh, it's very real to them. This is not 705 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: what is not what she wants to hear. But hey, 706 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: you got to, like, you gotta let go of this guy. 707 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: He is not your husband. 708 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, yep, I agree with that. And I 709 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 3: mean it sounds like that he's yeah, we're boyfriend and girlfriend, 710 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: but I like these other girls. 711 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's fringes of jealousy all through. 712 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: That for shure, And you've said all the time, men 713 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 2: and women, boys and girls can't just be friends. There's 714 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 2: always one of them probably has feelings for the other 715 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: in some sort of capacity. 716 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sixteen, just be friends. All of you be friends. 717 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: Take the relationships out of it. 718 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 3: This is why. And see if you had This is 719 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 3: why as parents, especially dads, it's like, you're not dating 720 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: till you're twenty. No, you're just friends with people, yeah, 721 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: or thirty five friends. Thirty five will come down, you know. 722 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: With London, I've lately I've been saying I've been saying 723 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: eighteen because I'm kind of thinking about when you're out 724 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: of the house. You know. It's because she'll say things 725 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: like could I get another piercing? And I say absolutely, 726 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: when you're eighteen, when you're not here, when you don't 727 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: live here. And I took a walk with her the 728 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: other day. It's like, you know why I keep saying 729 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: when you're eighteen or when you don't live here, because 730 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: my job until until you're on your own is to 731 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 1: protect you from things that you might regret later because 732 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: your brain isn't fully developed. And I don't want to 733 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: stand in front of you when you're thirty and you go, Dad, 734 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 1: why in the world did you let me do this? 735 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: Why did you let me get this tattoo? Why did 736 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: you let me get this piercing? Why did you let 737 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: me date that guy? Why did you let me go 738 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: to this party? I don't want to meet that London yep, 739 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: And be a coward in front of her and go 740 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: because I was weak. I don't want to do that, 741 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: so I would rather be strong and say you cannot. 742 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: But when you are old, when you're old enough to 743 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: make your own decisions, if you want to get a 744 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: tattoo or a double piercing, whatever, if you want to 745 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: date a weirdo when you're twenty five, I cannot stop you. 746 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't want you to. I wouldn't encourage you to, 747 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: and I would. I would give you all the best 748 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: I can to tell you not to. But I can't 749 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: make you. But I can now I say no, not yet. 750 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: And so so yeah, at sixteen, this dating thing, she's 751 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: got to let him go. She has to let him go. 752 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: Way too young to be that serious. That's for sure. 753 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 3: Time for one more, Yeah, serenity, says high Granger. Since 754 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: I was three, my mom's sister and I have gone 755 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 3: to church, but my dad never joined us. He struggled 756 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 3: with alcoholism and was more abusive toward me than anyone 757 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: else in our family, which caused me to hate myself 758 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 3: from a young age. When I was eleven, something happened 759 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 3: that made me decide to cut him out of my 760 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 3: life and When my parents divorced a year later, I 761 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 3: felt relief, but it also gave me space to think 762 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 3: about everything. I'm known for being forgiving and rarely hold grudges. 763 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 3: On a mission trip, we were encouraged to forgive those 764 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 3: who have hurt us, but I just can't seem to 765 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: forgive my dad no matter how much I pray or try. 766 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 3: It makes me feel guilty and like I'm failing as 767 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: a Christian. Thank you for your podcast. It means a 768 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 3: lot to me, Sincerely, Simenity. 769 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh, the old forgiveness question. 770 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 2: That's hard, especially being that young and not feeling like 771 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 2: you were protected or having this vision or expectation of 772 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 2: how you believe an earthly father should treat you, and 773 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 2: I kind of I know what that feels like, and 774 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 2: feeling that they let you down, but knowing that you 775 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: have a heavenly father who does not, even when we 776 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: fail as humans and forgiveness, I've learned that obviously we 777 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 2: are called to forgive because Jesus has forgiven us much, 778 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 2: and so it doesn't make it easy. And that doesn't 779 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 2: mean that you have to reconcile with your father, but 780 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: you can release that burden and say I forgive him. 781 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: I'm still you know, it hurts and I wish it 782 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: would didn't happen this way, but I'm going to let 783 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 2: this go. I'm going to forgive him. But that doesn't 784 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 2: mean that you have to build that relationship back. Sometimes 785 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: you think people think if you say I forgive you, 786 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: it means you have to go right back to the 787 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 2: way it was and you're going to have this perfect 788 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: father daughter relationship. And that's yeah, and that's just not 789 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: always the case. You have to build that trust over time, 790 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: and sometimes that might not be reconciled ever, but you 791 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 2: can release that. You have to let go of that 792 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 2: so you don't have that bitterness. And there's that saying 793 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 2: about drinking poison something if it's like, if you don't forgive, 794 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 2: you're drinking poison expecting the other person to die. You 795 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 2: can forgive in your heart, but you don't have to 796 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 2: mend that relationship. And you might want to mend that 797 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 2: as you get older, but that takes two parties, repenting, 798 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 2: turning away, and reconciling together. That takes two open hearts 799 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: to do that. 800 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's good. The forgiveness is not equal trust, 801 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: you know, so you forgive and That doesn't mean you 802 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: have to agree or trust, but you do have to forgive. 803 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: And really, as far as the Bible goes, when it 804 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: comes to forgiveness, we're commanded to forgive because we have 805 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: a savior at the pinnacle of our faith that is 806 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: hanging on a cross saying, Father, forgive them. They know 807 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: not what they do to the very men that have 808 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: put him there. Yeah, that that is. That does not 809 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: make it easy. But when we look to that ass 810 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: as the pinnacle of why we are to forgive, then 811 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: we see that it's a heart position. It's a it's 812 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: a heart turn not and not an action that says, 813 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: now we continue on the path of trust. Now you 814 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: don't you don't have to trust someone to forgive them. Yeah, 815 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Jesus would have said, now, 816 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I trust you that you're not going to kill me. Right. 817 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: It's a daily choice, like you don't. You can't just 818 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 2: forgive your dad today and be like I'm great. It's 819 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: going to take every day for you to say, no, 820 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 2: I have to forgive him. I'm going to forgive him 821 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 2: every day. And it seems a little easier for me 822 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: now if I know that they if these people are 823 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: whoever we're going to forgive, aren't Christians and aren't converted 824 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: because they don't know how to be any other way. 825 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 2: They're they're just sinful and they haven't had they haven't 826 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 2: had a changed heart. So I feel like it's a 827 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 2: little easier to forgive in that sense because they know 828 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 2: not what they do. 829 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: Forgiveness. It's great if it if it turns into reconciliation, 830 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: and reconciliation is great if it turns into restoration. But 831 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,800 Speaker 1: neither one of those steps are guaranteed. Forgiveness doesn't always 832 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:36,400 Speaker 1: equal or doesn't always lead to reconciliation, and reconciliation doesn't 833 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: always lead to restoration. 834 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,840 Speaker 3: So some people feel like it has to be a 835 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 3: package deal. 836 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: That's right. That's that's where people run into big time problems. 837 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,720 Speaker 1: I have people that say to me, there's a friend 838 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 1: of mine I grew up with, and he's like, I 839 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: struggle my wife and I struggle with forgiveness because I've 840 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: asked her, why can't you forgive me? 841 00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 842 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: And she just ca it and and and I'm thinking 843 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 1: that's because you're you guys are confusing reconciliation and you 844 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: want restoration, and she's confusing forgiveness with reconciliation and all 845 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: of this, that none of those things are guaranteed. 846 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. Three three very separate and to be dealt with 847 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 3: on their own. Forgiveness on its own by itself, and 848 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 3: a silo. Yeah, and and so forth. 849 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it flows forward. Those three things flow into each other. Yeah, 850 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: but they're they're not guaranteed to no matter what you do. Yeah. 851 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 3: I think the the the reconcilient, would you say, reconciliation 852 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 3: and rest restoration. Yeah, they can't be touched until the forgiveness. Yes, like, 853 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 3: if you haven't done the forgiveness, those other two aren't 854 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: gonna matter because they're you're never going to get to them. 855 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 3: But just because you're forgiven doesn't mean that there's the 856 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,120 Speaker 3: other two are automatically checked. Boxes are checked. 857 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so it's like a daughter looking at a 858 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: bad father, Yeah, saying the daughter says, I forgive you, 859 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: and the father says, then let's reconcile. No, no, no, 860 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: that's not that's that doesn't I don't want to go there. 861 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be right for me to go there. But 862 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: forgiveness is what is required. Jesus doesn't say you must 863 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: reconcile with your neighbor. You must reconcile with your evil neighbor, right, 864 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: I don't say that. 865 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 2: And I also don't think that we can truly forgive 866 00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 2: somebody unless we truly know Jesus, unless we truly know 867 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 2: what we have been forgiven for, like truly know it. 868 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: It's really hard to forgive if you don't know the 869 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: forgiveness in Christ. It's not human and natural to be 870 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 2: able to do that. 871 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: You're not a right headspace for forgiveness without Christ. You 872 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 3: can't comprehend true forgiveness without him. 873 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can't. You can forgive, just like 874 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: you can have joy. People without Christ can have joy. 875 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 1: But that's because we're made in the image of God, 876 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: and so we mimic life, because of our DNA, because 877 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: of our nature. We mimic life. But what's so kind 878 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: of corpse? You know? 879 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 2: One, it's not lasting, It goes until the next bad situation. 880 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: You don't have joy from the inside out, which is circumstantial. 881 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,720 Speaker 3: That's right, that's it. That's all we emails. 882 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: We got to do great. Yeah, you guys are great. 883 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: See you next week. Thank you so much for hanging 884 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: out with me on this episode of the Grangersmith Podcast. 885 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 1: I appreciate you being here. If you're listening right now, 886 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and rate today's podcast. It helps more folks 887 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: find the show. And if you're tuning in on the 888 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, you could actually set this podcast as one 889 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: of your presets, which is cool that way. I'm just 890 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: one tap away. 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