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Speaker 3: Texdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez,

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Speaker 3: and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 4: It's sent off scenes in addition of Talking Cowboys presented

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Speaker 4: by Black Rifle Coffee Company live from the Star in Frisco,

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Speaker 4: Texas in the s WBC studios. Welcome in everybody, as

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Speaker 4: we've got Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah Standback with

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Speaker 4: Chris Beam in the backup Kyle Yeomans as we are

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Speaker 4: ready to rock for you today.

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Speaker 5: You Chello your inner Kendrick Lamar was that your ab Uh?

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Speaker 2: They not like us?

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to you know, just trying to staccato.

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Speaker 2: This thing maybe like is a good brand? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Is it? It's a brand? It is a brand of

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Speaker 2: what got it? Yeah? Yeah, whatever it is. It's a

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Speaker 2: black rifle. That's right. It's a kind of coffee. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Listen, speaking of Black Rifle.

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Speaker 5: I need the goods because I my wife had a

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Speaker 5: birthday and I got her coffee machine. So now I

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Speaker 5: am going to frequent Black Rifle Coffee company because now

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Speaker 5: we have a machine that do they just dumped?

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Speaker 2: How much was that machine? You want to say it

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Speaker 2: on air? No, Rico, not.

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Speaker 6: The uh I'm a coffee drinker. Now let's put it.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's the thing. You Black Rifle coffee.

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Speaker 4: And they don't pay us any extra to say this whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: But I know not at all. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't get a check from them, but I will

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Speaker 4: say they're like actual ground coffee or that you make

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Speaker 4: it in the machine is better than anything else out there.

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Speaker 2: Murdered out flavor man, is that your favorite? That's my favorite?

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Speaker 7: Murder I just like a coffee so dark that you

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Speaker 7: like it just kind of kills you for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: You know, your heart is.

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Speaker 3: Just you know what I mean, Like it's just uncontroll

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Speaker 3: dark black. I hate the bag, just the darkest possible.

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Speaker 3: It is February darkst possible coffee for blackness.

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Speaker 2: I respected the black or the coffee like a February

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Speaker 2: creep it next, Oh I love it.

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Speaker 6: It's February no creffee.

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Speaker 2: No cream, Oh all coffee now, Isaiah, you said, uh,

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Speaker 2: you said you had some news. Oh yeah, what what's

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Speaker 2: the news?

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Speaker 8: Bro?

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Speaker 5: So I have to start freaquent team the batting cages.

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Speaker 2: Hey, because why is baseball league? Hey? Hey, you're doing it?

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Speaker 2: What baseball like? You're broadcasting. That's really cool, dude, that's

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Speaker 2: your that's.

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Speaker 5: Your I am joining a baseball wood bats baby.

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Speaker 2: That I don't even know, don't I don't know. They

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Speaker 2: asked me to play.

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Speaker 6: I said, yes, okay, I've been training my body really

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Speaker 6: an athlete.

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Speaker 2: Again. To get back to that point, bro, what position

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Speaker 2: are you going to play? Is there any other outfield?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Centerfield. Don't take any stick from John over here. That's

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Speaker 2: why I brought it up.

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Speaker 6: So listen, I know you like I know my other

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Speaker 6: gentleman over here to my right.

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Speaker 5: He likes baseball. Right, So I'm going to the cages.

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Speaker 5: Y'all want to go to the cages? Man, let me

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Speaker 5: know I got my wooden bats.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 5: My guy from SR Bass dropped me off. Scott Rogers.

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Speaker 5: That's my guy, Scotty.

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Speaker 4: He sponsors a lot of this engraving.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, beautiful, beautiful guy. I love that you got

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Speaker 3: a guy. But also, if you're in the market for wood.

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Speaker 3: Check out war StickK Okay w They've got a good

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Speaker 3: illuminam local downtown owned by a formal Rangers player, and

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Speaker 3: I got a couple of of nice bamboos from So.

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Speaker 7: If you need a corking guy, I got you.

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Speaker 2: Trying to put a tennis ball in a in an

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Speaker 2: aluminum aluminum bats it's incredibly hard. Yeah it's not loaded.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's loaded.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't that hard.

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Speaker 6: Shah yeah.

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Speaker 5: Bro, So I'm pretty excited about that. But trying to

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Speaker 5: get my body back in shape.

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Speaker 2: Can you let us know when the games.

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Speaker 5: Are I definitely will trying to get my body back

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, bro talking Cowboys Nation is going to

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Speaker 4: show out to watch Isaiah freaking tear al running down

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Speaker 6: Probably probably I'm trying to war more worried about these.

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Speaker 4: Hit He's gonna hit an fly ball in the left

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Speaker 4: center and he's gonna watch it. He's gonna think it's gone,

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Speaker 4: but then he's gonna realize it's not gone, and that's

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Speaker 4: when he takes off, Like the panic sets in.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to get to and that's when he gets

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Speaker 2: a little high to run on the wall road.

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting on top of the wall waiting for the bonto. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: whatever day it had.

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Speaker 4: Let's get into some news and notes around this one

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Speaker 4: football team, not the baseball team that we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: So you want me on that wall, you need me

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Speaker 3: on that wall, all right? So uh, not necessarily quite

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Speaker 3: a few things, but a few things. Since the last episode,

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Speaker 3: we had some vacancies that we were waiting to be

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Speaker 3: finalized and the coaching staff those were finalized. I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to go down the entirety of the list. Check

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Speaker 3: out the dot com. I posted the finalized list of

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys coaching staff. Checked that out alongside Tommy Yarra

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Speaker 3: shouts out to him. He contributed to it as well,

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Speaker 3: broke down where these guys are coming from, what the

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Speaker 3: expectations are for these guys going forward. But looking down

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Speaker 3: the list, let's see who we hadn't confirmed just yet.

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Speaker 3: Ken Dorsey has been confirmed past game specialist. He was

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Speaker 3: just agreed to terms last we spoke, but he's on

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Speaker 3: the books. Raymondchen Young, he's returning as an offensive assistant

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Speaker 2: He was at the press conference.

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Speaker 3: He was at the press conference. Absolutely, I'm sure that

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Speaker 3: did him plenty of favors to show some love to

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Speaker 3: the new head coach, like hey, I'm here, Yeah, where's medial?

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Speaker 6: And then we have some on the offensive side. We

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Speaker 3: New spots, I'd say, so deal forgive me if I'm

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Speaker 3: to meet this gentleman quite yet, but deal harding he

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Speaker 3: joins for QB fellowship, and I am getting questions. I

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Speaker 3: have the same question as your face is making right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Isaiah, you asked me this as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're working to figure out exactly what QB fellowship is.

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Speaker 3: That's not the same as QB's coach or assistant QB's

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Speaker 2: Have fellowship when there's only one in the building, right.

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Speaker 3: Well, will Ger is still in the building, so you

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Speaker 3: got true, Okay, you you got to Yeah, sorry, buddy Wave.

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Speaker 3: The two all right game management coordinator offensively is Ryan Feeder,

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Speaker 3: so he's in the building switching to the defensive side.

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Speaker 6: Of the ball. Who was not under Thompson is back.

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Speaker 3: So Darren Thompson, who did some work over the last

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Speaker 3: couple of seasons. For every seasons he remains with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: He's going to handle secondary and Nickel Nickel corners. Oh okay,

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Speaker 3: so DT is moving on up. Yeah, I'll say he

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Speaker 6: Wasn't he primary for him? Man?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's moving up. Defensive assistant and quality control

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Speaker 7: Now, Tenzel Smart former New York Jet. Yes, so he

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Speaker 6: He was?

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Speaker 2: He's interesting.

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Speaker 3: He's opening up his coaching career here in Dallas and heavy.

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Speaker 3: He's not the first on this staff to do so.

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Speaker 3: There are several who have come who started rather than

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Speaker 7: I just think it speaks volumes for Tenzel coming over

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Speaker 3: was able to speak with Michael Parsons this past weekend.

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Speaker 3: He was doing some fantastic work in the community. He

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Speaker 3: was at the Great Wolf Lounge out in Grapevine and

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Speaker 3: On the other side of the road there is a lounge,

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Speaker 3: but Michael was out there. He was making the day

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Speaker 2: It looked like a fun event.

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Speaker 6: It was so fun.

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Speaker 3: So Great Wolf Lodge they're opening up, you know, new

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Speaker 3: sections of gaming like bowling, laser tag, some football, a

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Speaker 6: In every everything.

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Speaker 2: Literally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of times I was like Michael, I

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Speaker 2: He was competitive about like paying a.

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Speaker 4: Mortgage, everything, Like literally anything he does has a competitive

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Speaker 3: It's really impressively. After the lasers, they did two rounds

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Speaker 3: laser tag. After the first round of laser tag, Micah

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Speaker 3: didn't necessarily like the school. He said the school was inaccurate,

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Speaker 3: so he's like running back, run it back, run it back.

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Speaker 2: They run it back and dived.

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Speaker 3: And he still didn't win, but he was playfully upset

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Speaker 6: Get racking up their points.

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Speaker 3: So he's just like I was like, yeah, okay, Michae's

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Speaker 2: You got a target on your back.

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Speaker 3: Literally he got him back in football though, oh did

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Speaker 3: he Yes, if football is targeted, he.

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Speaker 6: Got him back in football.

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Speaker 3: So but after the fun, after that phone was had

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Speaker 3: and the kids had just a fantastic day. Shouts out

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Speaker 3: to make a Wish Foundation, shouts out to Michael for

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Speaker 2: For the rest of your.

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Speaker 4: Rest of your current cores thought process. So it will

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Speaker 4: number one one of them is signing Micah. Sign Signing

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Speaker 2: A timely broad Yeah, now.

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Speaker 6: Would free up roughly eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Right right now. You had that conversation.

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Speaker 6: I did have that conversation.

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Speaker 2: But is his agent open to that that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: I think that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: But I think based on the conversations that we've had

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Speaker 7: you have the opportunity to do that with Micah, but

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Speaker 7: now it's on the Cowboys. And do you want to

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Speaker 2: Number of things going on here. Number one, I think that.

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Speaker 5: You learn more from other people's lessons then you learn

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Speaker 5: do things that they probably should have done sooner. You've

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Speaker 4: I would use those three teams as this not like

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about most recently, right about those three organizations.

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Speaker 6: The last decade.

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Speaker 5: Those are the three organizations that have shown you this

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Speaker 5: building through the draft. Okay, so the Cowboys have had

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Speaker 5: not going to just sit back, right, it was almost

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Speaker 5: through two contracts, right, play through two contracts just to

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Speaker 6: I want out.

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Speaker 5: You learn from other people, and you now are in

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Speaker 2: At the twilight of my career.

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Speaker 6: Now, you guys need to make this happen. Now.

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Speaker 5: On the second part of that, you're talking about Michael

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, in order to attract other And.

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Speaker 6: No no, it's not home to.

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Speaker 2: That number is still gonna be astronauts.

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Speaker 6: It's still gonna be up there.

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Speaker 5: Parsons situation, I am taking less if you guarantee me

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Speaker 6: And that's that's where it. It's not a.

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Speaker 5: I'm freeing up space so that you can go figure

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Speaker 6: No no, no, no no.

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Speaker 5: But if I take less, you're guaranteeing me that you're

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Speaker 4: You're gonna go get pro bowler here or pro bowler this.

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Speaker 4: I'm not playing next.

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Speaker 5: This is this is If I'm Michael Parsons, I will

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Speaker 5: Give me everything that I'm worth.

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Speaker 7: But, like we've talked about, you need to get Micah

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would That would appease the thought process there

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Speaker 2: We just talked about how much of a competitor he is.

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Speaker 4: We just talked about how much Michael Parsons competes playing

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Speaker 4: If if you're not careful, like he is, that kind

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Speaker 2: So it's it does.

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Speaker 4: You got to you gotta execute. You gotta execute him

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Speaker 2: They've talked about it too.

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Speaker 4: Go get talent, Go get these guys if you have

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Speaker 5: And to put it in perspective that most people can understand,

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Speaker 5: I don't care. I know what people are gonna Oh,

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Speaker 5: he makes an astronomical he's going to make a crazy

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Speaker 5: amount of money, but you will what she will right regardless, however,

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Speaker 5: is not basketball money. It's not baseball money. Okay, And

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Speaker 5: I don't care how much money you make. You taking

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Speaker 5: money out of my pocket, it's going to be a problem, right.

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Speaker 5: And so if I'm going to sacrifice money out of

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Speaker 5: my pocket, I need to know that the value that

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Speaker 5: I'm giving up is the plan I am gaining it

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Speaker 5: in another area. And I need to know I'm not

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Speaker 5: leaving it in your hands to figure out.

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you.

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Speaker 2: What's the plan?

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Speaker 6: What This is the plan? Not even what's the plan,

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Speaker 6: this is the plan.

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Speaker 5: I am willing to take five million dollars less on

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Speaker 5: what I should be getting annually to make sure that

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Speaker 5: I get these one of these two individuals. And understand,

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Speaker 5: if I take a five million dollar cut per year,

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Speaker 5: we're talking about twenty plus million dollars over the length

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Speaker 5: of the contract.

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Speaker 6: If I take twenty million dollars out of my pocket.

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Speaker 5: Will I better make sure I'm giving me a high

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Speaker 5: probability that I have.

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Speaker 2: A chance to go get a ring. I think he's

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Speaker 2: going to be more like three or four, Okay, sixteen.

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Speaker 6: Grand you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I love that, and that's what I want Michael to do.

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Speaker 3: Apply that type of pressure. I could also see his

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Speaker 3: comments because he made additional comments to this point and

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Speaker 3: a quote everyone doesn't need Everyone does not need a

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Speaker 3: max deal. There are great players that can do one

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Speaker 3: year or two year deals. Obviously we've seen that this

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Speaker 3: year with other teams. There's been that trend end quote.

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Speaker 3: So if you're talking about Michael Parsons, let's say his

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Speaker 3: deal gets done before free agency, which would be ideal

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Speaker 3: because then you get that eighteen million dollars immediately dropped

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Speaker 3: in savings for you to go into free agency and

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Speaker 3: start spending effective immediately. Also related sidebar Dak Prescott, his

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Speaker 3: trigger can be pulled restructure. That's thirty seven million dollars

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Speaker 3: you can drop in saving into your wallet.

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Speaker 4: See it's likely to be less than thirty seven because

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Speaker 4: that would be a max ring. So approximately, yeah, that

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Speaker 4: would be something so on.

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Speaker 3: A max restructure, on a max restructure, approximately thirty seven million.

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Speaker 3: On max restructure for CEEDE Lamb approximately twenty million, give

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Speaker 3: or take.

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Speaker 6: So if you do those to those two.

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Speaker 3: Triggers and get Micah done, you're floating around seventy to

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Speaker 3: seventy five million dollars in available cap space.

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Speaker 2: And remember you need about twenty million.

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Speaker 6: For operating for just your basic put.

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Speaker 4: Some numbers and then you need about thirteen million for

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Speaker 4: your draft, and maybe more of it because you have

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Speaker 4: some have to give.

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Speaker 2: Higher a price, but you're probably more like changing the

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Speaker 2: whole conversation. It does.

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Speaker 3: And also keep in mind so the reason I brought

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Speaker 3: up Michaeh's secondary quote, as far as far as one

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Speaker 3: of two year deals, if you get him signed right now,

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Speaker 3: you get eighteen million dollars in savings and you don't

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Speaker 3: have to worry about the first actual hit from his

507
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Speaker 3: contract until twenty twenty six. But if a guy signs

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Speaker 3: on a one year deal or even a two year deal,

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Speaker 3: it's almost a watch depending on what the size of

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Speaker 3: that contract is. Michaeh is giving you a ton of flexibility,

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Speaker 3: and he's publicizing the willingness to give you that flexibility.

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Speaker 6: I love it. Take advantage of it, Yeah, take advantage man.

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Speaker 6: I see it for me, and you take it.

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Speaker 2: I hope it all works out. I really do. But again,

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Speaker 2: we got to see it. The actions have to.

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Speaker 4: Speak louder than the words, because you've got a clear

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Speaker 4: cap room just period. Right now, you're sitting at what

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Speaker 4: nine million or twelve million or something like that.

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Speaker 2: Four days ago enoughs minus something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta pay me. It's part of it. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's part of the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: No, you're taking five million list, Yeah, we'll see. So

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Speaker 3: got three more mouths built this year?

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Speaker 6: Your team could be built.

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Speaker 2: I got a great team already. All right.

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Speaker 4: When we come back, we're gonna take your calls eight

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Speaker 2: Though? What are you guys doing at pick number twelve?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 4: Cowboys hold the twelfth pick? Where are you going with it?

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Speaker 12: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: All yeah, what are you going?

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Speaker 4: That was my choice, all right, And the thought process

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Speaker 4: the last time you picked no he was eight last year.

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Speaker 4: The last time you picked a twelve you picked up

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Speaker 4: a guy named Micah Parsons back in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: Of course, you started at ten, traded back to twelve,

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Speaker 4: to guess right now, the NFL Combine is next week.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk more about maybe some of the guys that

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Speaker 4: are going to stand out at the combine next week.

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Speaker 4: But this is the first time I've brought up draft

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Speaker 4: on this show. Specifically, what position group do you think

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Speaker 4: most fits at the twelfth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: For this franchise, for this team, I would grab a receiver. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's just that's me.

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Speaker 5: I would grab a receiver because I think that as

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Speaker 5: the conversation we last.

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Speaker 2: Week, oh yeah, we did talk about that.

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Speaker 5: A little need somebody who can come in and contribute

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Speaker 5: at a high level, uh to a company what Ceedee

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Speaker 5: Lamb is going to put out there. And I don't

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Speaker 5: believe that you want to spin your cap that you're

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Speaker 5: going to create this cap space on a receiver. Okay,

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Speaker 5: So I think that if you're going to chase a receiver,

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Speaker 5: go use the draft to go get a guy that

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Speaker 5: can develop and or not develop, be that be a

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Speaker 5: contributor for We're especially twelve day one, you better be starting. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you'd be starting on day one opposite of CD. Because

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Speaker 5: I don't think that the market's just gone crazy at

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Speaker 5: the receiver market. You can't go get that in free

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Speaker 5: agency and think that you're going to have the space

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Speaker 5: to do all the other things that you want to do.

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Speaker 4: And we we we talked about that last week in

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Speaker 4: the thought process of needs this offseason.

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Speaker 2: You can do draft and that was very.

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Speaker 4: We're talking specifically about talking about at pick number twelve

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Speaker 4: and wide receiver fits that mold.

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Speaker 2: Running back would definitely fit.

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Speaker 4: We're going to run the ball with one guy that

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Speaker 4: would fit the mole to twelve.

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Speaker 2: One guy is name for me, just happens to be.

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Speaker 3: Action Genty, Ashton genty of Boise State fame. Ashton genty

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Speaker 3: of the same Boise State that was attended by the

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Speaker 3: current offensive coordinator Clayton Adams.

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Speaker 2: And the current head coach and the.

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Speaker 6: New Orleans will Yeah, fair enough, that's fair.

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Speaker 2: They got a running back?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they do gotta running back?

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Speaker 2: Hey against US at US Yeah? That tick two.

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Speaker 4: That team was great against the Cowboys. How did they

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Speaker 4: do the rest of the year.

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Speaker 6: You take care of the Kamara stopping you. I'm taking

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Speaker 6: Ashton g I would.

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Speaker 2: Take anybody at this point, because who's gonna run the ball?

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Speaker 3: Listen, if gent is goingly I thought I was going

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Speaker 3: to run the ball.

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Speaker 6: Who's going to run the ball?

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Speaker 3: If Gent is going at twelve, I'm with you on

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Speaker 3: wide receiver, but only if gent is going to respect.

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Speaker 2: That at pick twelve. Yeah, I'm gonna cheat a little bit,

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Speaker 2: do it?

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Speaker 6: Sorry, Chooter.

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Speaker 2: I want more picks, Pumpkin, Oh you're trading back. I

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Speaker 2: want more picks. Oh, and I'm not talking a big trade.

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Speaker 2: I'm not talking huge. You're saying, drop down, drop down

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Speaker 2: to you know, twenty twenty fifth and pick up a No, no,

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Speaker 2: nothing like that. Like that's a drop Like Kyle just.

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Speaker 7: Brought up when you traded in that season for Micah,

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Speaker 7: traded three picks something to that effect.

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Speaker 2: You picked up a third. I need to pick up

666
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: that fourth. I need that. You want to back, Yeah,

667
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: I want my picks back. Gave me a Kevin Costner

668
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: on draft day. You know what I'm saying.

669
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 6: I think you're going to flip your fives to get

670
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 6: you four.

671
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: You could do that. You're going to have probably three.

672
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 6: Fives to flip your fives.

673
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 7: I moved back just a couple of spots, maybe at

674
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 7: the most three to five.

675
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: I like the thought process there.

676
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you how how how far back

677
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: you would have to go? Tell me, uh, in order

678
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: to get a four, you would need to go back.

679
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 4: You could go from twelve to fifteen.

680
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 2: Perfect. Yeah, that's what I want. That's not that far back.

681
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 6: Give me what I want.

682
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: Twelve to fifteen one my four back. Man, you're still

683
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: picking a quality player at fifteen.

684
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 4: And honestly, like I would want an overpay. I would

685
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 4: want somebody to come in and give me more than.

686
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 6: Just the four.

687
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 2: Like give me a three. Who has thirteen or fourteen?

688
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: Give me two seconds? So give me that in a

689
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: solid number two wideceiver.

690
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 6: My thing.

691
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 4: Thirteen is Miami, fourteen is Indianapolis, Indianapolis.

692
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: No, but neither one of those teams need a running back, right, No, no, no, no,

693
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: They're not coming up to get genty. I know. I'm

694
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: just saying that. Yeah, So the probability you'd still have

695
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: a running back to pick.

696
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: Better than way, yeah, than one of the other teams.

697
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 4: The next team that could use a running back is

698
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: probably Arizona in sixteen, because Atlanta's at fifteen and they've

699
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: got Bjon. So you've got Miami, Indianapolis, Atlanta in thirteen, fourteen, fifteen.

700
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 4: Arizona's sitting there at sixteen off Genty's at sixteen. I

701
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: think Arizona's taking that pick.

702
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we go fifteen maybe.

703
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So fifteen is the sweet spot for you little

704
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: bit past fifteen.

705
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: No, if gent's there, I think I'm sticking and picking.

706
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah at twelve, it picking. Yeah, there's a couple guys

707
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: we've talked about this. Gent.

708
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've talked about this a couple of times. If

709
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: Gent's gone, I think I'm open to the conversation. There

710
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 4: might be one or two guys outside of Gent. I

711
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 4: really like Ted Roha McMillan out of Arizona wide receiver.

712
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: I think he's Mike Evans. I would go take that

713
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 4: guy because I think he's the perfect compliment for Ceedee Lamb.

714
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 4: If he's there at twelve, I'm sticking a picking a

715
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: couple offensive linemen that are up there at the draft.

716
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll get there because it's very thin

717
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 4: top level in terms of offensive lineman early in this draft.

718
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 4: I think if there's a couple names there, maybe the

719
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: only other names that would be worth it would be uh.

720
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: Gosh, that's tough.

721
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: Maybe an edge rusher something like that, and that would

722
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 4: just be to be opposite of Micah.

723
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: Like I think I would rather trade back in.

724
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 7: That scenario in that spot, right, No, I'm not a

725
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 7: I'm not miss right.

726
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's a late first round If you

727
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: want to trade back and pick up a haul and

728
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: go to like twenty, then I could talk about Walter Nolan.

729
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: I feel like, but that would take multiple picks.

730
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 3: I feel like, if genty is there, McMillan isn't. If

731
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: McMillan is there, genty isn't, don't. I don't know that I.

732
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 6: See good point both being gone, being gone before twelve.

733
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: And I've mentioned this before about before fifteen though.

734
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: So if I wouldn't risk genty, I'm almost there with Klum,

735
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: like ninety nine percent.

736
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 6: There were cal on McMillan.

737
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: I don't know that I risk McMillan in a jump

738
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: back from twelve to fifteen, but then there's a couple.

739
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: But then I also looking at my board. You got

740
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: Eggbuka from Ohio State. Matthew Golden is going to be

741
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: on the board, So I think I would be more

742
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 3: I know, I like the trade and I've got a fast,

743
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: but we're talking about a trade back, yeah, not talking

744
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: about take and I could in a trade back, I

745
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: think Golden will be there. So I think that I

746
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 3: would be more comfortable if genty is gone. And now

747
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the receiver portion of the conversation. Okay,

748
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: I could probably be more comfortable going twelve to fifteen

749
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 3: and still getting one of these top receivers.

750
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: And then I'm on the Isaiah train at that point.

751
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: No question.

752
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 7: And this is kind of an opposite, not necessarily opposite,

753
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 7: but at twelve where you're picking right now, probability of

754
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 7: an offensive lineman right there.

755
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 4: At twelve, Yeah, probability, Yeah, like one that's worth picking,

756
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: or that you would pick one.

757
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 7: Do you think there is a probability of the Cowboys

758
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 7: picking an offensive lineman as.

759
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 4: I'd say twenty that's like, I think it's pretty high

760
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 4: probability really, just because I don't know if they are

761
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: sold on the future of Zach, whether he returns or not.

762
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: I don't think they're sold on the future of Zach

763
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 4: even if if that's the case.

764
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: And you say, oh, but what about brock Kaffman and Temah,

765
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: what about the depth?

766
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 4: I think both of those guys are great, But if

767
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: they're filling the role of Zach Martin, then you don't

768
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 4: have any more depth.

769
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's a question around Terrence Steele. There's a

770
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: question around Tyler that that's three of your five starting

771
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: offensive lineman and.

772
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: The other guy just switched positions as his rookie season

773
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: came to a close, of course, with Cooper Beeby.

774
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 2: Or came into fruition.

775
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 7: And I think that changes whether or not you decide

776
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 7: to cut Terrence Steele, which saves you money on the

777
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 7: Yeah on the cap.

778
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 6: Correct, Yeah, it would if you cut Terrence.

779
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: I'm only repeating that because I've heard that.

780
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: You know it would. I mean, we're just objective.

781
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,959
Speaker 2: How many years hasn't been since he had his contract two?

782
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 12: Jeez?

783
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

784
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: So I mean he's still actually he's played through two

785
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: full seat. Yeah, he's still in that restructured window. Actually,

786
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: or you could you know, approach him for a pay reduction.

787
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: I mean, was he making a year? I don't have

788
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: his contract running front? I'm crazy, right, I'll pull up, but.

789
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 2: I mean it's a it's a metal.

790
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 6: But I don't.

791
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: So the problem with entertaining release or waving Terrence Steele,

792
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: releasing Terrence Steel is everything. Kyle just said. You need

793
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 3: to see Tyler Guy in a year two. He has

794
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: some struggles, has some injury issues. He battled through in

795
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: Zach Martin. Even if Zach Martin doesn't retire physically, he's

796
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: not back at form. So you can't risk moving on

797
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: from Terrence Steele with these other issues going on your

798
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: offensive line as well.

799
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 7: His cappit for the next three seasons eighteen twenty one

800
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 7: and then eighteen.

801
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 2: That's pretty big.

802
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 6: I just steel though, because you don't have nobody to

803
00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 6: put it. That's what I'm saying.

804
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: Like, you're you're not in a good situation across the

805
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: offense line enough where you could sit back and be like, yeah,

806
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 3: I'm starting right tackle who also showed signs of getting

807
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: back to his his form on the back end of

808
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: last season. You're not in a position to let that

809
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: guy go when you know you have other things to

810
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 3: the left of him.

811
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: I still think he's still got some dog in on them.

812
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 3: Agree, we're just talking objectively. I personally would not move

813
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: on from Tera. I would figure out a way to

814
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 3: rework the contract, whether that be restructure or pay reduction

815
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 3: or whatever the case.

816
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 7: If you out, if you give the potential out for

817
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 7: now this year, this offseason, it would be a nine

818
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 7: point three million dollars saving no dead cap hit.

819
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's not that bad.

820
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 5: Like, I genuinely am excited to see the impact that

821
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: these coaches, these old line specific coaches are going to

822
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 5: have on this unit, because I think that as long

823
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 5: as you know the reason why if you have guys

824
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 5: that are capable and guys who are willing. I think

825
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 5: that you can take that natural dog that's in them

826
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 5: and bring it out and make them a dog on monster.

827
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 5: And so I like the bass, I like the Hoffman.

828
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 5: You have some guys in there who who've shown you

829
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: the grit. They've shown you the ability to block some

830
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 5: of the best in the league. With great coaching from

831
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 5: not just one great coach, I'm talking about two three

832
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 5: coaches that literally all they do is focus on the

833
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 5: running the game and developing offensive linement.

834
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: I'm excited about that.

835
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 5: So the likelihood of Martin retiring is most likely high.

836
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: I would imagine they're not coming back. Whatever, whatever you

837
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 5: want to lean on there, I'm okay with that. With

838
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 5: that avoid that's going to be left because there was

839
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 5: a void for a majority of the season. I feel

840
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 5: good about the offensive line and what they're and they've

841
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 5: invested there, So I wouldn't personally invest in the old

842
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 5: lignment with that twelfth.

843
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 2: Pick or dropping back.

844
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: I want positions that are harder to develop, harder.

845
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 2: To pick right.

846
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: It's very it's very difficult to pick a receiver man

847
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: like most and that's the reason why I kind of

848
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 5: shy away from the running back side. Most teams have

849
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 5: how many running backs that they cycle through? Multiple multiple,

850
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 5: there's not there's there's very few teams that have just

851
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 5: that one guy who's just your that's your main dude, right,

852
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 5: there's there's there's a handful of it.

853
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: That's the pull of Ashton genty as he would be

854
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: that dude.

855
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: Correct, because right now with Ricodua not on the contract,

856
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: we talked about who you have. You have Ju's Hunter

857
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 3: and Malie Davis. You you don't have any that you

858
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: can run through. I just think but outside of Ceedee Lamb, yeah,

859
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: who you are you're not getting talking from objectively?

860
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,959
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no no, I just I just think you

861
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 6: at least have bodies. It's harder to pick right at

862
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 6: it is.

863
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 4: For every Justin Jefferson, there's a Josh Rager, for every

864
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 4: CD Lamb, there's a Jerry Judy, you know, Like I mean,

865
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: those guys will happen, they will not.

866
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: You have to have a two part of it. You

867
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: have to have a one two punch of receiver. You

868
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: have to.

869
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: I just ran a simulation just for fundsies, Uh, just

870
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: for funies. I would trade back in this simulation just

871
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 4: out of here's the guys that are gone, cam Ward

872
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 4: Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Tteroa, McMillan, Malachi Starks, Luther Burden,

873
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 4: Mason Graham, Will Campbell, Mike Green, Ashton Gent gone at

874
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 4: ten to the Bears.

875
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: John A.

876
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: Barron is gone at eleven. You don't have anybody I'm

877
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 4: trading moving me. But also the thought process there is

878
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 4: who are they gonna come up to?

879
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: Go get?

880
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 4: So there's there's a couple of thought prospers's there all

881
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 4: the thought process I guess Sanders would be on the

882
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: board there too. So maybe if somebody wants a quarterback,

883
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: come get shear Sanders. All right, we're gonna take our

884
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 4: second break. We apologize for not getting the calls on

885
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Speaker 4: To Talking Cowboys back here on Talking Cowboys. This portion

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Speaker 4: our phone line. We got a couple of minutes left. Nebby,

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Speaker 4: You're on top Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: What's going on now?

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Speaker 12: Hi, guys, thank you so much for taking my call.

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Speaker 12: First of all, since it's his birthday today, I want

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Speaker 12: to give a shout a shout out to my brother.

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Speaker 12: I love you so much, Happy birthday. And second of all,

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Speaker 12: I know this is not gonna happen, but I would

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Speaker 12: love for us to draft Tyler Warren, the tight end

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Speaker 12: out of Penn State. But since I know that's not

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Speaker 12: gonna happen, I want us to either select the running

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Speaker 12: back from Boise State or the wide receiver out of

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Speaker 12: the University of Missouri, my man Mickey Spagnola's alma mater.

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Speaker 12: H And one last thing I want to say before

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Speaker 12: I go in, and that is I love the coaching

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Speaker 12: staff that we've built around Brian Schottenheimer. So I am

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Speaker 12: definitely going to give Brian Schottenheimer a chance, and hopefully

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Speaker 12: this upcoming season we can shot the world and be

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Speaker 12: the kind of team I firm believe what we can

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Speaker 12: be take care. Thank you so much for being patient

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Speaker 12: with me, and have a great week. Thanks, I love

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Speaker 12: you all, Bye.

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Speaker 4: Love you to you, NAB appreciate you the call as always. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean giving Brian Schottenheimer a shot, no pun intended.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of the thought process behind I think all

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Speaker 4: of us here, right.

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Speaker 2: We were very.

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Speaker 4: Adamant initially the Mike McCarthy era was not a bad era,

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Speaker 4: but we all knew the shortcomings there and the winning football,

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of winning football. We didn't necessarily want to move on.

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Speaker 4: And part of why we didn't want to move on

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Speaker 4: was because of what he had established here. There's still

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Speaker 4: things established here now that Schottenheimer is stuck around. Not

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Speaker 4: making the point that hey, it was Shottenheimer or nobody,

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Speaker 4: but at least giving him a shot before you kind

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Speaker 4: of come to conclusions and you make those early thought processes,

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Speaker 4: and yeah.

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Speaker 2: Get love and the coaching staff that they've built.

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Speaker 4: I love the staff, and that was one of my

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Speaker 4: biggest questions was x's and o's, how is that going

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Speaker 4: to work out with Brian Schottenheimer. And one of the

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Speaker 4: things I said was if you build a staff underneath

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Speaker 4: him that is good in the X's and o's department.

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Speaker 4: Then I will feel much better about this hire. And

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Speaker 4: they've certainly done that.

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Speaker 7: And we get to hear from the coordinators for the

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Speaker 7: first time today, like in less than an hour hours. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: we'll be up on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 6: Please check that out.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get to our second call.

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Speaker 2: This is Irwin in Colorado. Irwin. You're on Talker Cowboys.

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Speaker 14: Hey, good morning guys. How you guys doing. Hey, So,

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Speaker 14: just a couple of things. I'd like to get some good,

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Speaker 14: good feedback from you guys and normally call on storyline

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Speaker 14: and talk with Nick, but I want.

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 14: But kind of like one of those guys really listened.

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Speaker 14: I listened to all the shows, but I really want.

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Speaker 2: To man, we appreciate you, love it, appreciate it.

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Speaker 14: Yeah. So, just a couple of things. Uh, if the

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Speaker 14: fans know anything, and you guys can confirm this. If

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Speaker 14: Jerry Jones doesn't sign Micah Parsons to a contract here

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Speaker 14: pretty quick and it drags out through training camp, we

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Speaker 14: pretty much know how this is going to go. And

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Speaker 14: the other thing I wanted to touch on, I wanted

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Speaker 14: to push back on Isaiah and I hate to do this,

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Speaker 14: but yeah, you mentioned something earlier about the Cowboys have

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Speaker 14: learned from other teams recently, history has shown us they

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Speaker 14: have not learned, uh from other teams like the Eagles,

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Speaker 14: the forty nine ers, and you know, teams that have

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Speaker 14: been real competitive last few years, because truly, if they've

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Speaker 14: learned from those things, they would have done the things

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Speaker 14: that you guys have been talking about. And I just

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Speaker 14: thanks for taking my call. I mean, I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for a calling man.

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Speaker 5: So I don't believe that you can witness the things

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Speaker 5: that you've witnessed from other organizations and not learn whether

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Speaker 5: or not you apply that knowledge exactly, a completely different conversation.

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Speaker 4: The opportunity to learn is and it has been there, yes,

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Speaker 4: and the and.

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Speaker 2: The acknowledged it on several occasions.

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Speaker 7: They acknowledge what other teams are doing and they have

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Speaker 7: things are done differently here, and they've talked about that.

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Speaker 7: It's the action right, with no doubt they've learned it well.

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Speaker 4: And that goes back to the Stephen Jones conversation we

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Speaker 4: had last week. Is yeah, he's saying all the right things.

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Speaker 4: He's saying things need to change because we haven't gotten

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Speaker 4: the job done. That was part of his conversation directly

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Speaker 4: to us at the senior role and mobile was we

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Speaker 4: haven't gotten the job done, so something needs to change

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Speaker 4: along the way. Well, this is where you can show

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Speaker 4: that change along the way. And like we said too,

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Speaker 4: actions will speak louder whenever they come. But if they

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Speaker 4: don't come, that's when there's going to be criticism, and

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Speaker 4: they will have criticism.

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Speaker 2: If they do not deserve it.

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Speaker 4: That's show and that's part of the criticism that they're

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Speaker 4: going to welcome. The one action they can control right

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Speaker 4: this second has been the coaching staff.

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Speaker 2: Check that box. It looks great. I like what we've done.

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Speaker 4: The second action you can do is sign Michael Parsons

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Speaker 4: will see if they check that box down the line.

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Speaker 4: Then from that point four where the dominoes can fall

1041
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Speaker 4: as they may. But at least right now they're one

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Speaker 4: for one, but they're at they're at bat for their

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Speaker 4: second truck.

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Speaker 6: The tag windows open today, that's open today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just a little clarity, you're not gonna tag

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was there's nobody nobody the plane goose.

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Speaker 4: Here's the tag that's going to happen and prepare for

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00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: this over the next couple of years. The tag will

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Speaker 4: happen next year with a guy named Brandon Aubrey. I

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Speaker 4: think they will tag him because it makes sense. The

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Speaker 4: tag your kicker, and then how many people do it.

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Speaker 7: Because the average kicker salary is not gonna top five

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Speaker 7: of the average and it's not like a defensive end

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Speaker 7: or something.

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Speaker 2: Correct. How many guys get restructured this year this offseason?

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Speaker 6: Three? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Probably prediction five? Yeah, you got you got three.

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Speaker 6: I'm going three.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna go aggressive, I think because they don't they

1061
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Speaker 4: don't think it when the Eagles win the.

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Speaker 6: Sup Yeah, I could see it.

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Speaker 3: I could see four or five, But I think that

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Speaker 3: fourth and or fifth is based upon the spending that

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Speaker 3: firsts after you pull the first take the over.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go fifty three like Jeopardy. That's not Jeopardy,

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Speaker 2: that's true throwing a number at a board. Fifty three numbers?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, money, but really quick? But could you know? So?

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Speaker 3: Isaiah mentioned it and he's correct. Today starts the first

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Speaker 3: day of Cowboys and any team being able to apply

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Speaker 3: the tag, not only the franchise tag, but transition tag

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Speaker 3: as well. The deadline to complete or make that designation

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Speaker 3: is March fourth by four pm Eastern time.

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Speaker 2: So there anybody the tag.

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Speaker 3: It's not expected that the Cowboy I know there's there's

1076
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Speaker 3: been a dialogue of discourse on Twitter here the past

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Speaker 3: couple days wondering if the Cowboys could use a tag

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Speaker 3: on Osa. But the franchise tag at defensive tackle is

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Speaker 3: over twenty three million dollars, So don't see that. Even

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Speaker 3: the trans even the transition tag is it's less expensive,

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Speaker 3: but it's still costly because it's roughly around eighteen million

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Speaker 3: dollars for the transition like but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: you like it right. And the quick difference franchise tag,

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Speaker 3: if it's an exclusive, nobody can negotiate. If it's a

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Speaker 3: non exclusive franchise tag, they can negotiate, but the price

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Speaker 3: is still higher. Transition tag lower price, but the offer

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Speaker 3: can be made from someone else, and if it's not matched,

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys lose him and get no compensation.

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Speaker 7: How soon, just for clarity for fans, how soon can

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Speaker 7: you extend micaeh?

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Speaker 2: Now you can do it yesterday?

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Speaker 5: Why he was bowling with make a wish kids had

1093
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Speaker 5: have been perfect.

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Speaker 2: And there's no there's no advantage to waiting on it

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 3: There is a penalty for waiting though, because you don't

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Speaker 3: get the savings right now, and then if you wait

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Speaker 3: until next offseason to do it, of course expires, then

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Speaker 3: there's no savings, no reward.

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Speaker 2: It's all captween March. There's no that or April.

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Speaker 5: Extension needs to happen prior to what date do it

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Speaker 5: to reap the benefit.

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Speaker 3: I mean the we sellary cap window and New Year.

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Speaker 3: That's all with March tenth. I believe March fifth fifteen legal.

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Speaker 2: So an extension for Michael Parson needs to happen before

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Speaker 2: March ten. Probably.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you like.

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Speaker 3: You can know the money you have legally tamp Okay, cool,

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Speaker 3: That's that's what March tenth is what we're looking for.

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Speaker 2: Ideally, we'll see you then, we'll see you next week.

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