WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 090322 Police vs Black Children 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:07.680 And now moving my mic back, you're like that you 0:00:07.760 --> 0:00:08.600 can strike. 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:11.840 Headquarters behind him. 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.480 And well, if you're just turning in a civic cipher, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.840 I am your host. Ramsay's job. He is Ramses, I 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.239 am q Ward. This is a civic cipher. Shout out 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.800 to our producer and is Maggie aka Maggie knowing g 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.400 you do this. Indeed, we have a new intern in studio. 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:27.840 His name is Keon, so shout out to Key as well. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.640 Stick around. We're going to talk about some more teens. 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:39.760 Let's make sure that we touch on a very heavy issue. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:42.680 There's a video that went viral of police chasing a 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.440 twelve year old boy who was riding on an a 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.400 t V. So we're gonna spend some time discussing how 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:56.120 the police beat and kicked him. We're it's gonna take 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.279 some time to talk about the Chicago race riot. That 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:03.680 will be for our Way Black Street. Fact. That one's 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.080 a tough one too, but hey, we need to know 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.000 about it. And if you weren't around in nineteen nineteen, 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.400 then you know I had to learn it, so so 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:14.160 do you. But first we're going to talk about how 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:18.680 to become a better ally baba. So Yeah, this week's 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:24.319 BABA comes to you from Black Enterprise Magazine's sponsored by 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:27.480 Hip Hop WEV magazine, and we're going to talk about 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:32.440 Stillantis leveling the playing field for black suppliers. All right. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:36.240 Stilantis and the National Business League have launched the inaugural 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:39.920 Collective of the National Black Supplier Development Program. National Black 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.840 Supplier Development Program will support the development of more than 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.720 two point nine million Black businesses around the country and 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:50.360 internationally for future opportunities within the federal government and public 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.080 and private sectors. The program announced the new program edition 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.680 of a diverse group of several corporate partners that will 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.040 enhance the development and business opportunities forticipating companies. Corporate partners 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:06.560 include additional auto manufacturers that's a big one, Tier one suppliers, finance, banking, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.399 and other business service providers. Quote. These are exciting next 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:14.280 steps for the Stillantes National Business League National Black Supplier 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:17.160 Development Program. That's a mouthful on its journey to ensure 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:21.280 that all black businesses and enterprises and suppliers have an 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.080 equitable and inclusive stake in the global marketplace. Excuse me. 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:29.720 The launch of the inaugural Collective and addition of outstanding 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:34.280 corporate partners Ensues insures the program will be a sustainable 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:40.040 force of significant business and development opportunities for black businesses, 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:44.200 entrepreneurs and communities for many years to come. That comes 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:47.639 to us from Mark Stewart, the COO of Stillant's North America. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.000 And this one comes from Maggibi Noan. Whatever you can 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.720 do to diversify your suppliers for your business or your household, 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.120 it all makes a difference and allows you to be 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:00.800 a BA, become a better ally BA BA. So that 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:06.520 is a wonderful example of people championing black businesses and 0:03:08.160 --> 0:03:14.520 creating opportunities that will create a more equitable environment for 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:24.640 all of us. Now onto the big business. I guess 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:26.480 I should paint this picture. You want to paint it, 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:31.400 you can, But I do want to say that this 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:36.040 time we both watched the video. Yeah, we try not 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.320 to do that. We try to, you know, share the 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:44.280 load and we try to not we both have to 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:50.280 bear the trauma of the type of things that we 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.080 have to consume in order for this show to be 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:58.320 done properly. But we both saw this one and many 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:02.440 of you listening maybe have seen it as well. And 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.720 you'll begin as you listen to the description of this 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:09.680 story to maybe be a little sick to your stomach, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:14.920 because there might be some truths in this one that 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.159 I wouldn't seem or appear to be obvious to you. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.520 If you didn't see it, if it was just described 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:26.279 as police and minor, you might draw a conclusion that 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:35.080 in this case is not true. Yeah, thanks for saying that, Q, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:41.239 because you know, not all these stories end in death. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.840 The ones that do, unfortunately get sensationalized, and we have 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.320 to talk about those more because death is obviously a 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:53.120 much bigger issue than the beating of black people and 0:04:54.000 --> 0:05:05.920 trauma against black bodies. But when you are a father 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:11.280 the way Q is a father, the way I am 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:15.839 a father, and when you are a mother the way 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.200 Maggie is a mother, and when we have to put 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.880 these show together, the show together for you, and we 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.560 look at it and we have to think, Okay, this 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:29.080 is the world that we live in and we're raising 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:32.880 our children, and it hits different. It's enough to make 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:40.640 you cry. I don't have this child's name because he's 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.080 a child. I don't know what he looks like except 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.240 that he has brown skin. Because his face is blurred 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:52.520 out in the press. Conference that we were able to watch, 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:59.480 But basically he was with his friends. They were riding ATVs. 0:06:01.160 --> 0:06:08.920 This took place in Placamin's Parish in New Orleans, Louisiana, 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:17.360 and they're riding their ATVs. As you know, ATVs are loud. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.520 They're not subject to like muffler laws and that sort 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.039 of stuff. So I would guess that the noise and 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:28.360 the ruckus and the fun in the air caused some 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.960 folks to call the police or otherwise attracted the attention 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.440 of the police. And there's a lot of states you're not 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.360 allowed to ride ATVs in normal traffic, So just being 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.440 on the road on an ATV, would you know, Garner 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:48.680 the attention of sure law enforcement. Absolutely, You're absolutely right. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.520 And I don't know that because I don't know the 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:53.080 story before it. But I have to tell myself a 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.800 version of the story that I have to tell myself 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:57.719 something that led up to it. What was the worst 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.000 case scenario and what was the likely that led to 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.720 this outcome? You know, I have these thought experiments I run, 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:07.240 but you know, I don't imagine anybody would have as 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.560 much fun riding an ATV on the street as they 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.240 would riding it off road where there's jumps and bumps 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.200 and dips, you know, stuff to like kind of engage 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.720 you in the writing process a bit more. But to 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.240 your point, they were riding on the road at a 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.280 point when we saw the videos. Now, these guys were 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:29.920 riding the ATVs. Police show up and they try to 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:34.800 apprehend them, and you know, everybody kind of scatters goes 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:37.720 their way. I believe there was four rider or something 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.080 like that. The youngest is the twelve year old that 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:45.840 we're going to be talking about today. And you know, 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.920 he said that he didn't even know at first that 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.600 they were there for him. He was just trying to 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.240 get out of their way or whatever, because he didn't 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.720 know that he was doing anything wrong. You know, it's 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.880 just often the case when you're twelve and you haven't 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:03.000 been made privy to like you haven't been made aware 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:04.680 of all the laws that exists, which, by the way, 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.320 there are about ten thousand laws. You should never talk 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:13.320 to the police be cuzone criminature on something. Anyway, I'll read. 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.000 This comes from the Thompson Justice Institute, as comes from 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.520 a press release. The family of a minor child would 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:25.080 demand the immediate termination of the Placamin's Parish Sheriff's officers 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.480 who violated the constitutional rights of their minor son in 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:32.719 New Orleans, Louisiana, August twenty four. Human and civil rights 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.400 attorney Ryan K. Thompson and Jessica Hawkins have been retained 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.360 by the family of the twelve year old who can 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:42.400 be seen being beaten by two Placuamin's Parish Sheriff's deputies. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:54.679 Family of a twelve year old juvenile, representative doctor A 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.160 shan To Wyatt and their attorneys are calling for the 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:02.280 immediate termination of the officers and dash camera footage from 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:07.800 February nineteenth, Sergeant Dougas can be seen using excessive force 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.600 against a non resisting twelve year old when he snatches 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:13.480 the juvenile off his stop dirt bike and violently slams 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:18.360 him to the ground. Subsequently, Sergeant Francis is seen violently 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.120 kicking and stomping on the minor, while Sergeant Dougus is 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:28.640 seen seen kneeling atop the twelve year old. Now, I'm 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:32.079 gonna stop right here for a second because you're hearing 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:36.920 us read this, but we want to share with you 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:41.840 what the actual child said in the way that he 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.000 recalled the event, So Maggie, can you find that out 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:45.600 for us? 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:50.800 I've dancey Niclebe's also does turn around and I'm looking back. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:56.679 I'm like, is the area chafing bodil? I'm trying to 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.680 out is he to me? But then once I figured 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.640 out that in the nation are trying to pursue me, 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:08.800 that's when the regular life actually does it. That's when 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.040 the cop came in front of me and cut me off. 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:13.600 So that's why we're doing it to the left side, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.320 the right side of the train. I turned the bikeo 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.280 and then he can. He jumped out of the car 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.240 and ran up to me and pulled me off the bike. 0:10:22.600 --> 0:10:24.240 I was on the ground with the bike on me 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:25.600 with a very hot bike. 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:35.120 At that point in the video, you can see the 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:40.160 officer pull them off of the ATV and slam them 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:44.040 onto the ground, you know. And then you see another 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.760 officer run toward this dash cam video that we saw 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.839 and he like winds his leg back and then he 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:55.319 kicks this child. And then the next move maneuver he 0:10:55.400 --> 0:10:58.200 does is like kind of a stamp, like a stomp 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:03.440 onto the child. Right, And so this is why these 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.240 people are talking about excessive force. This is a video 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.520 that you don't have to watch. It's a little bit 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.880 more mild because you don't actually see you see the officer, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.680 you don't see the child, you don't see the harm. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.640 But you don't have to watch this video because if 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:24.959 you have children, you're going to feel this one. And 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:31.520 there's something that we need to let you know about, 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:37.120 and that is that the officer that runs up and 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:54.040 kicks the child is himself black. The reason that's important 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.800 is because you know, there are people that listen to 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:07.360 our show and they think that we are unfair to 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:15.160 police because police are often white, and in their minds 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:20.040 the criminals are often black, right, And that is not 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.280 the case, And we make that point very often on 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:26.840 the show. Police as it is done in this country 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:38.400 is extreme. Almost invariably, these people have been these officers 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:43.760 have been sort of empowered, and we the people have 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:51.839 been indoctrinated to allow them to be judge, jury and executioner. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:57.720 They're blameless, they do nothing wrong and anything that happened 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.160 is the result of the person who is being apprehended, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.559 even if in fact they're innocent. You know, Q and 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.360 you know Maggie that the amount of people on the right, 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.400 that tried to blame Breonna Taylor for her own death 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:21.280 while she was asleep. That's one side in her own house. Yeah, 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.439 you know this, that they will figure out a way 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:30.520 to blame you for dying, for being killed being killed, 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:34.360 Thank you. That's important to say it that way. And 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:37.959 no one on that side really stops and says, you 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.520 know what, maybe they should have taken a moment or 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:44.280 maybe that force wasn't Listen if I pull over on 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:47.480 an ATV and I turn it off and I'm sitting there, Okay, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:53.880 do I need to be tackled, yanked off of my motorcycle, kicked, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.319 you know whatever. And one of the things that we 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.880 talk about a lot on the show is how officers 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:07.319 often yell stop resisting to insinuate that the person that 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:11.840 they're apprehending is somehow resisting so that they can inflict 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:18.280 further damage on that human. And you know, if it ever, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.840 if there's ever anything that's like an investigation launched into it, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.280 they will be on record on video, et cetera, having 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:31.520 yelled out stop resisting, and then all is right with 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.680 the world. Well, the jury of the judge, whoever has 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.880 an opinion on it, will say well, clearly he wouldn't 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.160 yell out stop resisting if the individual wasn't resisting, and 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:45.360 they'll completely ignore the person screaming I'm not resisting. That's 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.800 why I pulled over it. That's why I'm sitting here 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:52.040 and the video of the person not resisting right now. 0:14:54.080 --> 0:15:00.480 Black officers can also be a part of a white 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.760 supremacist system. Black people can be a part of that. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:13.000 White supremacist doesn't mean perpetuated only by white people. It 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.920 means it is a system designed to benefit white people. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.400 And we know that historically there have been lots of 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:25.760 non white folks that have benefited from white supremacist systems 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:33.200 that ultimately benefit a richer, more powerful, oftentimes white male. 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.080 At the end of the day, that's if you follow 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.920 the money, it stops there. That's where the buck stops, right, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.040 So I forgive the language. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:44.800 I like this. 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:51.320 Video showing a black officer doing this because it suggests 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.360 that this is a much bigger problem than black and white. 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:58.440 This is a maybe not bigger problem, but the nature 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.520 of the problem is is not just black and white. 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:05.320 The nature of the problem is the way black people 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:08.760 are regarded in this country. And you know, we keep 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.560 saying it over and over again. We're talking about policing, 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:16.640 we're talking about the criminal justice system. Now I do 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.680 need to read a little bit more, but first I 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.000 want to kind of paint a little bit of picture here. 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.240 So I'll ask you a couple of questions to you. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:30.840 Is it the case that sometimes children get involved in 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.359 mischief almost constantly? 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:34.880 Right? 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:36.840 Cool? All right? Twelve years old? 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:37.440 Man? 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:39.000 I wish when I was twelve I had an ATV 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:42.280 man out of Revenant, because that would have been cool 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.880 and riding it everywhere and kicking up mud and all 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:47.480 that sort of stuff. That doesn't mean that I deserve 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.880 to get my head kicked, you know, by a police 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.360 officer and arrested and all this sort of stuff. You 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.280 could just tell me not to do that anymore at 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:57.880 twelve years old, Yeah, and be a police officer, and 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.200 guess what I'm not going to do. It's not like 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.800 I'm like, you know, I'm you know what I mean 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:04.879 that I'm not going to let go against the police 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:08.200 or any authority, you know, figure in my life at twelve. 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.560 My teacher could say that, my neighbor could say it, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:11.800 and I would just stop, you know what I mean? 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:15.880 But I just wanted to establish that mischief. Right, It's 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.359 not the worst thing in the world. That's a part 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:17.959 of growing up. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:18.720 We know that. 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:23.560 But police oftentimes are interactions with people. It's like this 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:29.960 person that has caused some sort of infraction is a 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:36.280 hardened criminal worthy of the worst prison sentence ever, and 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.160 we need to approach them accordingly because if we don't, 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.720 they're going to kill everybody else, including me. I wish 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:44.480 it was that though. Go ahead, you I know what 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.200 you're going to say, so say it right. Yeah, I 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:46.920 wish it was that. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:48.439 Right. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.000 We've seen officers arrive on the scene where the person 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.480 was a hardened criminal that had just murdered people. Say it, 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:59.240 but they were white. So they were respectfully apprehended in 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:05.320 some cases even taken and fed Burger king. That's the 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.879 biggest slap in the face to be just when they 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:12.240 arrived and the suspect looks like us. Then they have 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.000 to be taught some extra lesson. Yeah, they have to 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:19.960 be humiliated in some way beyond just being apprehended and 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.600 arrest is sure real quick. I want to make sure 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.000 that we say this the right way. There was a 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.040 young man. We won't say his name this time. But 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:30.600 I do know his name. Went into a church some 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:34.719 years back, shot nine black church, shot nine people as 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.800 they were praying and cultivating their relationship with the Lord. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.439 Nine people died in the church, and the police arrested 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.480 the young man and then took him to Burger King. 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:46.320 And that's what I meant when I said, that's the 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.040 biggest slap in the face to black people, because that 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:51.359 man is alive and well somewhere. He had his day 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:56.119 in court. He's able to still breathe, and you know, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:19:00.840 went in unharmed and was shot, wasn't stomped out, wasn't concussed, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:05.439 wasn't punched in the face. That that's hurtful, all right. 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:10.199 I also want to say that as the police were 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.879 chasing this young man, uh, this boy, I can call 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.280 him a boy. You can't. I can call him a boy. 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:19.639 Now you can call him boy. Q. I meant you, 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.560 the listener, don't please do not refer to any black 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:30.560 person male as boy. It is. There's there's some roots there, 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.200 there's some history there that you may not know about. 0:19:34.520 --> 0:19:36.720 And that's that'll be a topic on the show soon. Yeah, 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:40.080 we have to talk about that. The boy is adjacent 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:43.680 to the N word. You have to just I'm just 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.280 a fun fact titbit. 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:45.480 You know. 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.480 It's the most respectful way that you can be. They 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:49.719 used to not they used to not call us men 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:53.040 because we weren't equal to white men. And so the 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.719 word boy is particularly offensive to black people. A lot 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.719 of folks don't know that. So anyway, as they were 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:05.080 chasing this boy on his ATV, it was almost like 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:07.359 the police officers are like in a video game or 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.399 like it was like they were rustling cattle or something like. 0:20:10.400 --> 0:20:15.800 It was crazy because it's like, wooh, smoke him. Smoke 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:22.160 And the child heard them say that, and he's like, oh, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.040 as as you can imagine, you know, smoke him. 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:27.720 What did I do? 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.280 Smoke him? 0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:29.680 You know? 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.320 So I need to make sure that that's established as well. 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:38.960 And then I want to read this real quick, and 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.080 then I'm going to toss to you for your thoughts. 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.560 You so. Additionally, the family seeks a full investigation into 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:51.000 Sergeant Francis, Sergeant Dougas, and the other parish Sheriff's officers 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:54.040 who responded to the February nineteen, twenty twenty two event. 0:20:54.160 --> 0:20:57.639 The dangerous maneuvers deployed by those Sheriff's officers that evening 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.200 endangered the life of the minor child and ultimately left 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.200 him with the concussion and a fractured left tibia. Further, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.600 the tactics deployed in the video are extremely similar to 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.960 those being used by the officers in the reckless pursuit 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.960 of teens Reginald Hamilton and Cody Blanchard, which took place 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:19.080 three months later on May thirtieth, twenty twenty two. Same 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:25.160 Sheriff's department. So what it says? Yep, wow, same department. 0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:31.520 So que you have a black son, Yes, I do, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:41.280 a beautiful, kind, brilliant black son. He might think one 0:21:41.280 --> 0:21:44.879 of these things is cool. Huh oh, he's absolutely gonna 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:49.560 think the ATVs are cool, Like, yeah, absolutely, Or he 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:54.800 might want to just go play outside and breathe in 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.000 fresh air and run and experience the world as children do. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.840 You're familiar with the name Tamiya Rice I am Unfortunately 0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:08.360 you know. If you don't know that name, make sure 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.119 you're in the right head space before you look that 0:22:10.200 --> 0:22:14.360 one up, because that's a heavy one. Yeah. My kid 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:20.800 has a water blaster, he calls it, So imagine that, right, No, son, 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:23.119 I need you to play with that in the in 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:28.879 the back because who knows, even though it's blue and 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:33.080 orange and green, who knows? 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:35.240 You know? 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:38.560 The thing is is that? And this is another thing. 0:22:38.720 --> 0:22:44.399 Just to bear in mind, things happen, Tragedies happen, mistakes happen. 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:53.199 I think that on some level we all collectively are 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:57.399 comfortable with the logic of that. Collectively, not individually. If 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.760 you lose your baby, you might that logic might not 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.640 hold up in your life, okay, and I will see 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.800 that entirely. But collectively, as a society we can say 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:14.320 mistakes happen. Typically, when accidents happen, mistakes happen, there's some 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:23.280 degree of accountability, and oftentimes we do not see accountability 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:26.520 when the person is black. We were talking about environmental 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:30.680 racism and how did I describe the response was a 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:36.359 low effort or mediocre or some sort of respect. I 0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:39.320 forgot the word. I use black lackluster. Thank you, blackluster 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:48.320 response as if black life has no worth and again 0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.720 best less worth at best less worth, thank you. And 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.920 so now you start to understand why the Black Panthers existed. 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.359 Now you understand why we have to affirm the black 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.119 lives matter. Now you understand why show like Civic Sipher 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:04.800 exists to educate you, our allies, our friends, the people 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:08.879 that love us, and we love you too, and hopefully 0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:12.240 we can help change the culture and change the narrative 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:16.159 a bit. So yeah, moving on, It's time for the 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:22.000 Way Black History Fact. So this week's Way Black History 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:23.960 Fact is sponsored by Hip Hop Wepy magazine and it 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:31.040 comes via Chicago Race Riot dot Org, the Chicago Race 0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:38.880 Riot of nineteen nineteen Commemoration Project and I'll read. On Sunday, 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:42.520 July twenty seventh, nineteen nineteen, an unusually hot summer day, 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.760 black seventeen year old Eugene Williams and four of his 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:48.280 friends took a homemade wooden wrapped out onto Lake Michigan 0:24:48.359 --> 0:24:50.280 on the South Side. They pushed off from twenty sixth 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:52.440 Street Beach, the only beach in the city reserve for 0:24:52.480 --> 0:24:54.960 black beach govers and swimmers. Although there was no legal 0:24:55.000 --> 0:24:59.440 segregation in Chicago, de facto segregation was common, including a 0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.960 long lake front. While in the water, the boys unintentionally 0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:08.520 floated across an invisible boundary line demarking a whites only 0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.320 part of the lake, as well as the beach at 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.159 twenty ninth Street at twenty nine Street. George Stoberr, a 0:25:15.200 --> 0:25:17.840 twenty four year old white man, hurled stones at the 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.480 five black boys until Williams ultimately drowned. White police officer 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.080 at the scene, Daniel Callaghan, refused to take Stabbur into custody, 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:30.040 nor would Callahan let a black police officer do so. Subsequently, 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.120 a crowd of black and white Chicagoans gathered in protest 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:37.280 near the beach. Police reinforcements masked at the scene, but 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:41.560 confronted the black crowd rather than investigating William's murder. As 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.359 police acted more aggressively toward the crowd, a black man 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:48.359 named James Crawford fired a gun at the officers. Police 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:52.000 returned fire and killed Crawford. As word and rumors spread, 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.160 the city erupted in racial violence. Much of the rioting 0:25:55.240 --> 0:26:04.399 took place on the South Side Sorry about That, and 0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:08.879 in nearbly nearby white ethnic neighborhoods like Back of the 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.760 Yards and Bridgeport. The violence also spread northward to the 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:17.600 downtown Loop area as well as near West Side. White males, 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:21.119 especially members of youth gangs and so called athletic clubs, 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:25.640 loaded into automobiles and sped through black neighborhoods firing indiscriminately 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:29.600 at African Americans and their homes. Some of these gangs 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:34.840 also set fire to tenement buildings inhabited by Eastern European immigrants. 0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:38.880 In order to stoke further tensions between working class white 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.919 communities and black Chicagoans, white mobs pulled African Americans from 0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:46.080 street cars and attacked individuals walking to and from work, 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:50.800 severely beating and on several occasions, killing their victims. As 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.880