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Our number two 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.520 Fantasy best Friends Forever Fantasy Sports Radio Network. That is 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.440 Frank standfoll I am Greg Saucemen, we are joyed today 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.320 for our number two of our first base Breakdown show 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.400 with the Closer, Chris Fencher. What's up, Chris? What's going on? Guys? 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.280 What's up? What's up? It's a boy, I'm back on 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.160 the BFFs. We're gonna get it done baseball. I'm excited. 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.840 I don't even wanted to baseball for a while. Little 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:17.119 bit of Josh Bell over here, Get no worry, we'll 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.000 get We'll get into Josh Bell in a little bit. 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:20.720 I wanted to just ask over some of the stuff 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.479 we've been We've hit on an hour one. I want 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.240 to eat your quick takes on those first. Freddie Freeman 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:29.760 or Paul gold Schmidt for you. Uh. For me, it's close, 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.199 but I got gold Schmidt ahead of him. He's number 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.200 one for me. Freddie too, Uh. I do like Freddie's 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:39.840 I guess safety right now more than goldchmanth but Goldman 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.240 has been doing it for years. Got a down year. 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.560 I don't think, you know, he's due to decline at 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.280 this age right now. Just worry a little bit about 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.120 the move to St. Louis. Does it like does he 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.240 need a transition there? You know, he's only ever played 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:55.200 a Chase field in Arizona. Last year the humand or 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.040 maybe it affected him early on in the season because 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.760 he struggled as much as he did. But I worry 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:01.720 a little bit about the move. I've always been a 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.920 Freddie Freeman guy. I think they're very close. Yeah, they're close. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:05.760 I have Freddy Freeman once spot higher. I mean, Freddy 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.480 Freeman is gonna get it done. The thing I like 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:11.720 about Goldie is that listen, he's gonna hit in the 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.160 heart of the lineup. So I don't think he's gonna 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.760 lose too much. I know, obviously, line up there in St. Louis, Yeah, 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:20.720 pretty good lineup. Uh. I know he's gonna be hit 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.600 more homers in you know, Arizona, because that's the ballpark 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.400 it is. But I still think he's gonna hit his 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.400 thirty five, you know what I mean. I think he's 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.320 gonna walk a ton, just like Freddie Freeman will. Uh. 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.440 You can't go wrong either way. I think you know 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.200 what I'm saying. What you're putting these guys one two, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:38.120 back to back or not. These are the top two guys, 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.959 all right, very which side of the argument where you 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.160 want for these guys? I think I feel on the 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:43.560 Freddy Freeman side. It's very close. I'm not an island 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.080 now once. Um, alright, crash, are you inter out of 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:50.920 Codey Bellinger this year? I'm in. I mean I actually 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:56.160 have him ahead, actually have him third. You know, I 0:02:56.320 --> 0:03:00.280 obviously live rizzo. Um, it's just the upside. He he's 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.880 twenty three years old, right, so he's not even really 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.120 hit his prime yet. He hasn't hit his stride. And 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.119 I think this day is a great time to buy 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.520 into buy into his value because I think He's obviously 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.519 gonna bounce back, and I think he's gonna have a 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:15.440 great career as well. I think he's gonna be one 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:18.400 of the top first basement FeAs to come. Whereas Rizzos 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:20.440 already knowing you know who you're getting from Rizzo, he 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.600 hit his ceiling. I don't think there's much more room 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.800 for him to grow. So I like the fact that 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.280 I could get more out of Bellinger, And realistically, I 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.320 think he gives you a nice floor to Bellinger. I 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:31.799 think he gives you a decent floor if he could 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.079 play a full you know, full season thing last year 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.120 was kind of his floor, and we saw it right. 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.880 I guess, like five home runs to sixty still give 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.040 you like fourteen stolen bases. The counting stats weren't necessarily 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:44.960 what we wanted them to be because I think, you know, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:47.040 him hitting in the middle of the Dodgers lineup, we 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:50.040 want those counting stats for Bellinger to be at least 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.760 eight eight five runs and you know, ninety plus Harbis, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.400 you don't necessarily there last you know, we gotta like 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.360 a lot about Bellinger, and this is why I put 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.120 him in that category those top guys he walked in 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.119 he did play a full season when he walked seventy times. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:06.040 I think he's that's gonna also grow as people fear 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:07.840 him more and he hits more homers and he becomes 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.120 a staple in the lineup and everything like that. I 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.280 think those walks will get higher the plate disciplines there, um, 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:17.360 and he steals some bags as well, fifteen bags maybe, uh. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.600 And I think the average will also slowly creep up 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:22.040 at you know, as he gets older. He's only twenty 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:23.920 three years old. I think power is gonna a lot 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.960 more powers about to come to heet. Thirty nine homers 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.400 uh in a hundred thirty two games his rookie year. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:32.000 So the sibling is really high, you know, and you 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.440 gotta like that, and look, this is this is the uh, 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.320 this is the difference. Right last year, you know, Venture 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.680 was downstairs telling me, I'm your bias. He's got the 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.720 up siside he can hit thirty home runs and steal 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.560 thirty basses. And I was like, like, you are you 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.159 were absolutely crazy. And this is the difference because you know, 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:52.919 Venture is still buying in on the potential of like 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.040 these young guys, not necessarily just like looking at you 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.120 know the fact that like statistical evidence, sometimes you gotta 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.360 look at things outside of the statistical evidence, where you know, 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.480 if that's what you trust in Bellender, if you trust 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.240 his his prospect pedigree, in the fact that he's only No. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:12.560 Twenty three years old here, if you buy into that 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.680 that upside, then there you go. That's difference. Like he 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.040 a get It wouldn't surprise me. It wouldn't surprise me 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:25.120 if he hit two sixty to seventy with forty bombs steels, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:31.200 that wouldn't surprise me. All right, last questions, Hoskins, what 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.280 do you think? So here's the weird thing. I didn't 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.400 put Reese Hoskins in my first big ranking because I 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.040 play an espan and he's not eligible for first base yet. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:45.040 Wouldn't I rather drift him as an outfielder, Yes, you 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.960 would rather drift him that outfielders, of course. But I 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.800 do like Hoskins, like you were saying, I think he'll 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.800 bounce back. He's a young player as well, he's only 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.360 I think twenty six or something like that. Uh, I 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:58.839 like him a little more an Olsen Olsen, I have seventh. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:02.719 I have Rizzo four Carpet, Matt Carpet, their five Joey 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.920 Vado six, then Matt Olson seven, and that's what alt 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.800 Reese Hoskins, where do you have a break on that list? 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:12.000 Right behind Olsen eight? So he's very excited about I'm sorry, 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:16.120 right behind Olson, I have a brave lower. I have 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.120 a rail at eleven a brad in. In just one 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:20.920 sec before we hit a break, we were hitting on 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.400 Hayes's Aguilar, Frank and you were and we were talking 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.640 about how Aguilar really a tale of two seasons there. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:29.400 But he has the power like Matt Olsen. He has 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.000 a power um like a Reese Hoskins where he just 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.279 go off. And I think that's why I kind of 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.120 grouped them all together here. Do you think la could 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.040 do it again? Or is there a chance that, like, hey, 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:41.440 maybe he loses his fos Eric Thames right, like just 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.159 Eric Favors did it last year? Like is that so 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.200 out of the question. I don't know. I mean, he 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:49.359 realistically ken, but it's been not just last year. What 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:52.640 I really am looking at two is in seen when 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:54.479 he did get the chance, but I didn't playfull season 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:56.080 because they didn't really know about him yet and he 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:59.120 didn't really take over till Thames got hurt. Uh. He 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.680 also hit from major power pretty consistently, definitely in the 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.040 short span that he played, not short to he played 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.920 a hundred thirty three games. But you know he didn't 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.880 even have three hundred bats, So I think the power 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.480 is real. I think all that is real. Uh, he 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:16.320 falls behind these other tow top tier guys. Me is 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.880 for a few things. Now I play in points leads, 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.400 so it's a little different. But like he doesn't walk 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:25.720 a ton, he didn't walk, he didn't make improvements from 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.480 he's growing seen definitely, And the doubles on the left 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:32.320 over a power here that you want to see. You know, 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.760 he had twenty five doubles last year. That's not enough 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.400 to be in that top ten. Doubles and walks, I 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.520 think to the most important things I've been doing for 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.760 fifteen years, I'd say, And the two things that I 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:46.640 noticed the most is that guys will you know, home 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:48.720 runs will different. Look at matcop one year at eight, 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:51.120 one year, at fifteen, one year, thirty nine, like they're 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.960 all of the board. Homer's sometimes it's it's luck factor, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:55.360 you know, maybe he didn't get a lot of fly 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.400 balls that year. He had an unlucky year. Whatever the 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.760 case may be. But usually doubles and walks stay consistent 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.840 throughout the player's career. Those things don't really change much. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.240 If they hit a lot of double, they hit a 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.680 lot of doubles. If they walk a lot, they walk 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.160 a lot. And those are two key factors in one 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.240 knowing that pat discipline, which is very important for a 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.400 hitter to stay in the league and be a good hitter. 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:15.560 And too, if you hit a lot of doubles a 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:18.200 lot of times, that translate to homers in the future. Uh. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.280 You know a guy that hitst doubles and fifteen homes, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.160 you can almost project he's gonna hit twenty five homes 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.480 in the future. Um. And the other thing I see 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.480 consistently is that it's hard to judge the young guys. 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.000 The guys you know that you know what they're gonna do. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.520 They've been playing for a while, you pretty much know 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.520 what you got right. The younger guys I like. I 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.840 like to see little things that stand out, like those 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.960 things like walks and doubles, and it's easy to project 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:40.440 by the third year usually that's when they start breaking out. 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.600 So I'm looking for guys like that who have played 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.640 a couple of years away, like and Aglare played almost 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:47.640 two years. Maybe he's due for his breakout. He is 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:49.400 twenty years old, he's a little older than a normal 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.920 breakout player. But I think you're seeing signs of it 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.040 in the growth in his years. And that's what I 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.880 look at. I look at the growth like that, and 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:00.200 these things usually stay consistent majority of the time. They're 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.240 all outliers. Of course, I like to find things consistent, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.040 especially in baseball. I don't just look at last year stats. 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:07.760 I look at you know, what has this guy done 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.360 his career? Was he done in the minors? And I 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.360 try to come up with, you know, a possible breakout 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.240 year for these young players, which makes sense because and 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:16.920 that's why he would like a guy like Cody Bellinger, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:19.200 right like third year breakouts. This is his third year 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:21.240 and he's still you know, he's only gonna be twenty three, 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:24.040 twenty four this year. So I can see what you're 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.000 saying there with the with the third year breakout Greg. 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:29.839 You know, the more I look into Aler, I think 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.240 I'm kind of talking myself into him a little bit here. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.719 I realized the second half. I mean, look, it was 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:37.960 his first full seasons a full time player. Is it 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.439 outside the realm of possibility that he just kind of 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.839 got tired, he wore down a little bit as the 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:44.960 season went on. I mean, he was awesome in that 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.960 first half. I mentioned to p S in the first 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.760 half of the season. He was one of only nine 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:55.120 players last year with thirty five home runs and RBIs 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.880 that used to be like the mark of the slugger. 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:00.400 That's what we're looking for, thirty five homers RBI. Only 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.480 Knocke players did that last year. Hazew's aglar was one 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:07.720 of them. Um, the plate discipline we mentioned, he got better. 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:12.360 He he walked two percent more from cut the strike 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.400 out right down by cent and we all love the 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.600 Brewer's lineup, right, So why don't we love Hazel. I 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.440 just think I think I think we're kind of just 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:24.320 being ages here with it. And people remember what they 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:26.720 saw last most, which was like the second half where 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.800 he kind of took a step back. You could go 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.679 it could go two ways. Now, did he get tired, 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:32.880 did he kind of wear down because it was his 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:35.760 first full season, or did pitchers kind of figure them 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.280 out a little bit in the second half. That would 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:43.680 mean that means you're you're more out on Haze, but 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:45.520 he he's always been a guy that you know. We 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.120 looked at the bad ball data and we were like, 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.120 if they just gave him a chance to play every day, 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.360 he could be awesome because he's been over a forty 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.000 year cent hard hit rate, so he's mashing the ball 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:56.840 and he's hitting five balls. Those two things combined, especially 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.240 in a ballpark like Miller Park, it's gonna lead to 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:02.199 great things. He should do his thing. I wouldn't reach 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.040 on him. I would try to grab meta value that 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.880 kind fair enough. You know, here's the the NFBC a 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.880 DP venture. You're getting a pick a d about okay. 0:11:12.360 --> 0:11:16.200 Right around his ranges, Matt Carpenter is going eight picks higher, Jose, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.280 everybody who's going seven picks later, Matt Ole's actually going 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.480 thirty picks later. Really see, I like Olsen's value much 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:24.600 better than and I was just talking about this SEU 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.200 during the break Greg NFBC a DP. It's not the 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.680 end all be all. We kind of like use this 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.480 as a guide here to let us know where first 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.320 basement are going, where all players are going. Actually, but 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.880 Hay going thirty picks higher on average than Matt Olson. 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:41.560 But in the two expert drafts that we see gun 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:44.000 on last week the Labor Draft and right now is 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.240 going on the tout War Draft at hold, Matt Olsen 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.040 has gone higher than Hazel in both of those drafts. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.200 Is that tells you the experts are more in on 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:57.520 add Olsen than they are and a guy like those experts. Yes, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.040 they're both redrafts. Okay, So I think that's just basically 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.320 them saying, I think the ceiling is much higher for 0:12:03.320 --> 0:12:05.960 this guy. He's twenty four years old. Really, what what's 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.400 the what's the difference if you're projecting Hayes's agil and 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:13.640 Matt Olson Greg, what's the difference? There's not big differences 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:15.840 because if you look at the projection system on fan 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:18.800 Grass for for the batting average for it ranges from 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.520 two forty two to two fifty four. Why is that 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.760 his batting average when last year he had two seventy 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.640 four and the year before that he had two sixty five. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.199 You know what I'm saying, like, why are we projecting 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:30.680 his batting labbing? Is batting average to be so love half? 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.040 I think they take that more into account obviously, Yeah, 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.320 But what does the first half just not matter. I mean, 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:41.160 I'm kind of asking like devil obviously also most to 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.240 be fair, most projections. Usually people are very conservative, right like, 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.440 especially on these experts totally you know sites definitely let 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.640 me get away. I didn't really answer your question. I 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:54.240 know that, Um, I don't think the difference between Olsen 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.080 and Ail is really that different. It's not I agree 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.160 with you, but in the NFBC A d P if 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.000 I'm getting Olson thirty picks later, we ended up exactly value. 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.360 All right, let me move on from these like power 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.080 hitting the players that you also you have this tier 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.000 Frank some more of the week of like as there's 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.520 a little bit of everything. When I think of those guys, 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.360 I spemfically think of Joey Vato and I specifically think, 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.319 who are you can for years for these two guys, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.320 you're able to just kind of count on one hand, 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.439 like exactly what you would expect that of them. Poblem 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:29.320 was last year whosday jose Brey. You well, he gave 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.800 less home runs and less runs scored and games so 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.120 it was low, but the average was less than ever 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:37.719 the ov P was less than you guys know why 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:39.640 he only played a hundred and twenty games. By the way, 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:45.160 I saw your note. Yes, uh he uh, he had 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:49.360 testicular torsion surgery. It's very bad. I'm not gonna go 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.520 into the details you I've tweeted up the link before 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:56.000 I asked about that. I think it's pretty self. Hey, 0:13:56.080 --> 0:14:00.600 doc is Jo over his testicular torsion. Yeah, we're gonna 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.000 do that tomorrow. Anybody listening watching out there right now? 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:07.240 I think you can empathize with Jose. He missed about 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:08.640 a month of the season because of that, and then 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.559 he was shut down because of a thigh injury when 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:17.280 he came back in September. But yeah, Jo, like you 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:18.599 kind of got to give the guy a break for 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:20.840 last year. No, yeah, Well, let me ask you this though, 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:26.520 what was his highest value in his career? Last year 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.600 he was being drafted as his hot at his high. 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:32.360 I think he was coming off because three homers. Honestly, 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:33.760 I think he was going like the third fourth roun 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:35.600 lest year. Saying happened at his first season two. We 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:37.760 had thirty six homes and a hundred seven rives. So 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:41.240 he always the same guy, right, He always had about 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:42.960 thirty home runs. He always played every game and it 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.720 always better around three D. He was like, So between 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.160 him and Rizzo, I don't think it's that different. So 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.520 if you play in points, I understand that. In Broo, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:54.280 I don't. I don't really think here that much different. Well, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.240 my point was that pretty much across the board, I 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.800 know he played less games. Everything was down, and you 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.440 could say the same thing Joey Vado were last year. 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.400 Across the board. Everything wasn't just down. I mean it 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:08.120 was down significantly for Joey Batoum by far the worst 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.720 season since his injury. Play season. It was horrific for 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.000 Joey Vado. The big question is can one or both 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:20.240 of these guys bounce back this year. With Jose Brady 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.760 I mentioned him first, I'll start there. He had trade 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.600 rumors around surround him all season last year, wait even 0:15:26.600 --> 0:15:30.160 to be traded. It never happened. Do those trade roums 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.480 go away this year? I don't know. But Frank, you 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:38.080 keep trying to look into personal stories. The testicular evulsions, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.840 whatever it is called torsion. You're tested here torsion that 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:45.440 that was obviously an issue. Maybe maybe these trade rumors 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.960 weren't exactly helpful either. You've got some help on the 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.480 way though. You're you're all over. You're all over Jose 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.040 Bread this year, do you Is it because you expect 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.600 him to bounce back a little bit or you're just 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.320 really in love with the price? Yeah, I really do 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.080 like the prize. I think that's what it's come down to. 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:03.080 It's a combination both because I do think he's gonna 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.680 bounce back as well. You're getting Jose Brew right now, 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.240 pick eight six. He's gonna be after aglare you know 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:09.880 as much as you know we just spoke about a 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:11.960 Jose Brave was a guy that we've seen do it 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.880 for four or five years already. So I really do 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.640 trust the safety there. I think he's safe for to 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:22.360 eighty plus batting average, thirty home runs, eight plus runs, 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.520 not plus r B. I I do think the White 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.920 Sox lineup, it's not gonna be great, but it's gonna 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:29.560 be better than years past once Eloi Amenez gets there. 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:31.880 Like you know, Eloy Hamnn is also a native of Cuba. 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:33.840 I think these guys are actually gonna kind of like eink, 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.800 They're gonna hit it all together. Well, I mean, remember 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.880 Jose Breve was also from Cuba. I I think that's 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:40.920 gonna help. I think it's gonna help the White Sox lineup. 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:45.000 He's typically a very slow starter. I've used this in 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:49.000 my analysis in the past of Jose braw He's from Cuba, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.040 and what I've said about like Latin American players is 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.040 I think that the cold weather might affect some of 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:58.440 these guys. So Jose Brew in March and April playing 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.600 in you know if the six weather in Chicago, I 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.440 think that affects him. So he's a slow stays. He's 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.639 safe man, and I like the price that you're getting 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.640 that right now. Joey Votto is also safe. Until last 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:12.480 year we got Chris Bencher. We find out what happens 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:14.440 if you can bounce back when we come back. 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