1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: Welcome in Thursday edition, Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. My goodness, we 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: have got a bevy of stories for you. Hunter Biden 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: potentially going to be indicted before the end of the month. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: What do we think about it, What is coming? What 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: will that look like? We will discuss and also Andy 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: McCarthy will join us in the third hour, former prosecutor. 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Is he surprised by the way that this story came out? 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: What is the significance huge poll coming out from CNN 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: early this morning. Some of you may have seen it. 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: It has Trump up one point on Joe Biden, but 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: the data inside of that poll is devastating for Joe Biden. 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: And that's actually where I want to start, Buck, because 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: a lot of talk has been out there about Trump, 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: and certainly we have spent a great deal of time 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: discussing Trump. But I flagged several things that jumped out 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: at me from the CNN poll that continue to make 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: me question, what in the world is going to happen 21 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: on the Democrat side, not on the Republican side. On 22 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: the Democrat side, and in particular, some of these numbers 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: when you look. 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: At them, are so brutal for Joe Biden. 25 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: I think that Democrats have to beg beginning, beginning, if 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: they aren't already privately, to panic and let me hit 27 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: you with these Buck, because I saw this, and I said, 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: sixty one percent of this CNN poll say Joe Biden 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: was involved in Hunter's business dealings. Sixty one percent. That's 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 2: a lot. Forty two percent already before impeachment, before much 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: of the media has even covered that, say Joe Biden 32 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: engaged in illegal acts. As if that were not enough, 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: that the percentages out here are disastrous. Biden has a 34 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: thirty nine percent approval rating buck just seventy four percent 35 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: in Democrats. Fifty eight percent of voters say Biden's policies 36 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 2: are worsening the economy. Sixty seven percent of Democrats want 37 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: a different candidate than Joe Biden. Should Democrats be panicking 38 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: based on where we're sitting right now, would every Republican 39 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: candidate beat Joe Biden. 40 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: It's so early, you know, this is the part of 41 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: it now right. 42 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Now, and we're not talking about in November, but just 43 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 2: right now if the election were going on, how would 44 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: you assess this? 45 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Should they be panicked so hard? Look, I think that 46 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: the country has now been broken down into a situation 47 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: where any Republican gets a certain percentage of the voted, 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: any Democrat gets a certain percentage of the voted, and 49 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: it's like forty seven or forty eight, right. I mean, 50 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: you're not going to have a massive swing. There is 51 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: no realistic future here of a sixty forty national landslide. 52 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody believes that that's possible right now. 53 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Now that could change, but right now, all the numbers 54 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: indicate this will be a very very tight election. So 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: you're really having to get down into parsing the last 56 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: two or three percent and what is realistic where that 57 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: would break down, what states would get the turnout that 58 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: you would need. So it's interesting. But again, I think 59 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: that we're looking at this where we haven't yet seen 60 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: the Democrat rollout. And I don't want to be e 61 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: or here, but I guess I will be. We haven't 62 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: seen the rollout of First of all, the indictments are 63 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: going to be followed by all kinds of legal wrangling 64 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: and new stories, and I'm not even talking about the 65 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: legal process of it, which will be a problem too 66 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: for Trump to handle. But they're going to have a 67 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: whole campaign, and the campaign is going to be it's 68 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: not targeted at our audience. Right Everyone that we talked 69 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: to is like, this is crazy, it's politicized targeting, or 70 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: not everybody, but vast majority of the people that are 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: listening to us right now recognize the unfairness of what 72 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: is being done to Trump and therefore rally to him 73 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: even more. I mean, I know people that were iffy 74 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: about Trump before the indictments, Republicans who are now like, sorry, 75 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: we have to do this. Right. So that's going on. 76 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: But the Democrats are going to be running a campaign 77 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: based on getting the last two or three percent to 78 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: swing their way in the key states, and that's where 79 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I just worry that it's going to be like a 80 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two situation all over again, where we it 81 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: should be based on polling, economy, crime, immigration, and it 82 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: ends up being in some states, abortion rights in some 83 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: states twenty twenty, you know, revisited. So that's my concern again. 84 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that when you look at the options 85 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: for not Joe Biden, for Democrats. They are so bad 86 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: that even Biden as a bad option is better than them. 87 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Still in my mind, did you see what I mean? 88 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: That's how I break it down. 89 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: I think that they are starting to panic, and I 90 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: think they're starting to panic. 91 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: Privately for this reason. I think there is a strong argument. 92 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 2: That they expected for four different felony states right district 93 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: of Columbia plus three states to move numbers in some way, 94 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: and instead of moving numbers, they may have strengthened Trump somewhat, 95 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 2: which is I think starting to set off alarm bells 96 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: for Democrats. 97 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: And I would say this, but yeah, so what I 98 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: didn't mean to cut you off, but just alarm bells, 99 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: meaning what are they going to do? 100 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 3: Right? 101 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: That's the part of it. I think you're right that 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: there's concern, but I just don't think they have any 103 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: good options. When you look at the national numbers, you'd 104 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: see with Kamala taking over, Oh, it can't be Kamala. 105 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: That That's why I've said from the get go that 106 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 2: Biden has to When I say step down, I mean 107 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: announced that he's not running again. 108 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean let Kamala ascend. 109 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 2: So you mean the open Democrat primary, Yes, because I 110 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: think they can't allow if Biden. 111 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: So here here's my take on this. 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: And I'm talking as if I were a Democrat, all right, 113 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: pretend that all I care about to winning, which I 114 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: think it's fair to say. The Democrat perspective is, I 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 2: am looking at all these numbers for Joe Biden. Joe 116 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: Biden is the weakest incumbent president since Jimmy Carter, and 117 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: his numbers are potentially going to be worse than Jimmy Carter's. 118 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter and I didn't live through this election. I mean, 119 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: I guess I kind of did. I mean, I was 120 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: a baby, so I don't remember this election. But Jimmy Carter, 121 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: his issue was everything was failing around him, but nobody 122 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,119 Speaker 2: doubted that he was a smart guy. Biden, to me, Buck, 123 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: if it's Biden Trump, it is Biden's dementia and or 124 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: his physical and mental incompetence versus Trump's felony charges. And 125 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people out there, Buck, and 126 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: again I'm talking as if I'm a Democrat. If they 127 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 2: line those two things up, seventy four percent of Americans 128 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: don't think that Joe Biden is physically or mentally capable 129 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: of doing the job if you are an independent voter, 130 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: if you are someone in the middle, I think one 131 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: of two things happens. 132 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: You don't show up. 133 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: And I still think that we're going to see a 134 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: lower turnout in twenty twenty four if it's a rematch 135 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: of Trump v. Biden. Second part of this, you might decide, 136 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: even if you don't like Trump that when you're basically 137 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: confronted with competence, but things that the competent person does 138 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: that you don't like, which is the Trump side or 139 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: in competence, I think that Trump is going to win 140 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: and increasingly, and again I'm talking right now, because there 141 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: are lots of crazy things that can happen. If this 142 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: race were in two months, right, if we were going 143 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: to see the election in a little bit basically almost 144 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: exactly two months from now, so instead of fourteen months, 145 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: two months from now, I think that every Republican who's 146 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 2: running right now, at the upper echelon of candidates would 147 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: beat Joe Biden. And I think deep down Democrats are 148 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: starting to recognize it. And then you add in this 149 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: buck Biden's issues are not going to get better a 150 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: year for an eighty year old with dementia can basically 151 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: add ten years. He's only going to get worse, and 152 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: I think his public behavior and his public viral moments 153 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: are going to continue to add up. 154 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: I love your optimism. I do, honestly. Like some days 155 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: I show up here, I'm like, I don't know, man 156 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: is the Republic doom? I'm like Clay thinks we're going 157 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: to be. Okay, we're gonna have it. We have a 158 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: stake bed on I We've had it for a long time. 159 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Biden's I believe, going to be the nominee. I hope 160 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: this is the nominee. Now I'm afraid that he won't be. 161 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: But I think he's the worst candidate. 162 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: So but but just answer your question earlier, I think 163 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: he's actually worse than any other Democrat candidate, almost other 164 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: than Kamala. 165 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: Right, So, as I was saying, I think he's still 166 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: going to end up being the god that they try 167 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: to get Democrats to vote for next year. You think 168 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: that there's going to be an open primary process for 169 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the open primary process to logistically work, unless they're going 170 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: to try some last minute Shenanigan's at the Democrat National Convention, 171 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: like you know, some kind of a floor fight situation, 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: and god knows how that would actually turn out. They 173 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: got to do this by December, so the window is closing. 174 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: So I do think there are forces on the Democrat 175 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: side that there are people who are panicked. You and 176 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: I agree on that in their camp or they're they're 177 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: very nervous. I guess you could. You know, panic might 178 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: be a little more. Yeah, but they're very concerned about 179 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: where things stand right now with Joe Biden. I also 180 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: think that the entire campaign that they're setting up is 181 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: just one of Trump destruction instead of elevation of Joe Biden. 182 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: Their minds are going to be set on it doesn't 183 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: really matter who our candidate is now. To be fair, 184 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 1: If I really believe that, well then why not let 185 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: Kamala take over? I think Kamala, you just look at 186 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: things like name recognition, time in the game, how long 187 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 1: has she been doing this, etc. I think it's the 188 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: numbers show that she has even weaker. She's even weaker 189 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: than Joe Biden would be in continuing in his role. 190 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: So this to me is this one moment in time 191 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: where they're floating out there. You know, there are people 192 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: who want someone else, who are Democrats. There are people 193 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: who want to think about this, but they have a 194 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: very tight window here to do something, and if they 195 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: don't do it, then it just becomes he is the guy. 196 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: I think that they believe Kamala Harris would be a 197 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: better option than an open primary fight, just because to 198 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: have an incumbent president, it's like a vote of no 199 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: conft and it's in the Democrat Party for the incumbent 200 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 1: president who still can walk and talk, I mean, he's 201 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: still functioning not particularly well to say I don't want 202 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: to do this anymore, and so then you get to 203 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: do what's likelier for them. Because remember if if Biden, 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: Biden saying he's not running would open up a prime, 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: would open up the primary, right, Biden just stepping down 206 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: entirely would mean that Kamala Harris becomes the president. The 207 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: elevation of Kamala to the presidency is probably a less challenging, 208 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: less expensive political reality for Democrats than trying to have 209 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: a primary fight, in my opinion. But this is also 210 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: all to say, Clay, nobody knows man. I mean, we're 211 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: so early in this process. We haven't even seen the 212 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: numbers that are going to shift in the Republican primary. 213 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: We haven't seen whether or not the Democrats have any 214 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, does it start to work for them? The 215 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: Trump's going to he's going to prison, He's going to 216 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: all these different trials. And I remind everybody Barack Obama 217 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, right around this time, maybe a month 218 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: or two later in the process, was low forty's approval 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: rating low forties like forty one, forty two, forty three, 220 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: and he absolutely crushed Mitt Romney in the general election. 221 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Now Trump is not mid Romney. I get that, but 222 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, this is I think the moment of maximum 223 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: numbers weakness that you are likely to see for an 224 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: incumbent president. Right now. People, they haven't launched all the 225 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: dirty tricks they're gonna launch. That's my opinion. I very 226 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: much hope that I am wrong. 227 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: Eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two. 228 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: I would love to hear from you guys. One thing 229 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: to keep in mind as we go to break here. 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: In all of twenty twenty, Trump never led in any 231 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: CNN poll. Just think about that for a minute. Never led, 232 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: and he has opened up a one point lead. We're 233 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 2: discussing as well. You know, who was the most impressive 234 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: going head to head against Joe Biden. In this CNN poll, 235 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: Nicki Haley six point lead for Nicky Haley. Do you 236 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 2: buy that again? 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Keeping it real, keeping it honest, 260 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton while. 261 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: These poll numbers come out, which I'm sitting here and 262 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I want to believe that mister Clay Travis is correct, 263 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: and that's Buck Sexton is being being a little too 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: cautious in his sense of where this is all going. 265 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: But again we'll have to see. The poll numbers are 266 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: certainly bad for Biden for an incumbent president this point, 267 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: there's no question, and there's specific stuff attached to it, 268 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: like he's too old, he's not of sound mind. We 269 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: all know it, and that's real, right. These are objective. 270 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, the economy, there's a million ways 271 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: they can try to juice the economy one way or 272 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: another and try to, you know, squeeze a little here 273 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: and add a little there. He's too old, okay, we 274 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: know he can't be four percent buck right. This is 275 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: this is starting to get to like, you know, do 276 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: you do you think that you know, having like strep 277 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: throat is a bad thing? 278 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 3: Yes? Or no? 279 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: You know you can't get one hundred percent of people 280 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: to agree on anything, but seventy four percent of people 281 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: think he's too old. Okay. Then you have people asking 282 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: from the Democrat aligned media, Vice President Harris, are you 283 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: ready to be commander in chief? If necessary? She was 284 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: just asked us yesterday played twenty three eight. 285 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: Now, if you win the second term, as you and 286 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: the president are running to do, he would be eighty 287 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 4: six at the end of it. The Wall Street Journal 288 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: had a poll showing two thirds of Democrats say Joe 289 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 4: Biden is too old to run again. Are you prepared 290 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: to be commander in chief? 291 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Yes? 292 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 5: I am if necessary. But Joe Biden is going to 293 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 5: be fine. And let me tell you something. I work 294 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 5: with Joe Biden every day. The work that under Joe 295 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 5: Biden's leadership our administration is accomplished is transformative. I think 296 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 5: the American people, most of all, want a leader who 297 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: actually gets things done. 298 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I love it, Clay. When Kamala has the moment, it 299 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: would be like the coach in the locker room that's 300 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: trying to get the team fired up at halftime, all 301 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: the players walk out afterwards to go, we are definitely 302 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: getting our butts kicked in this half. Like it is 303 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: not confidence inspiring. When Kamala tries to inspire confidence. 304 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: When everybody so first of all, that is terrifying, and 305 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: a part of me thinks that the only way that 306 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 2: we can truly end identity politics is by the quintessential 307 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: identity politics candidate ending up in the Oval office and 308 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: everybody being like, oh my god, she can't do the job. 309 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: And the fact that you have a Indian black woman 310 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: who is elevated in some way because she looks like 311 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 2: what California's leadership wants California's leadership to look like from 312 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 2: a cosmetic perspective, But there's no depth there, there's no 313 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: ability to connect with the American public. As bad as 314 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is, I think Kammal is worse, But I 315 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: think the key here, Buck is once Americans make up 316 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: their mind, it's very hard to convince them that they 317 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: are wrong. And so seventy four percent of like, just 318 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: put it in your own life. How many times have 319 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 2: you met someone who was elderly, thought oh man, they've 320 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 2: got dementia, and then you changed your mind six months 321 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: later and you were like, actually, they're really sharp and great, 322 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 2: and I was totally wrong about that. 323 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. The choice that Democrats think the voters 324 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: will be faced with the persuadable voters is do you 325 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: vote for the guy who's maybe a little bit senile 326 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: or the guy who is the end of democracy. That's 327 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: what they're planning. I don't know how else to see 328 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: it than that. There's some quiet chatter these days in 329 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: DC that the Mind administration is thinking about a massive 330 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: change to our currency system. If you read the words 331 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: from former Wall Street insider and digital currency Expertika Tawari, 332 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: it's likely to happen. 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I 349 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: am a data nerd, so I all into this CNN 350 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: poll and I got a couple of other things that 351 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: stand out. One, if you look at this, Trump is 352 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: up forty seven to forty six in this CNN poll. 353 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: He was never up in any CNN poll throughout the 354 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty election between Trump and Biden. So this is 355 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: a high water mark for Trump in the CNN poll 356 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: and by the way, also reflected in the Wall Street 357 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: Journal poll where I think that came out last week 358 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: or earlier this week. Forty six forty six. Okay, why 359 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: do I bring this up? This would mean that Trump 360 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 2: would win the popular vote. Trump lost the popular vote 361 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 2: to Hillary. He lost what like by three points or 362 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: so against Biden three and a half points nationwide against Biden. 363 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 2: If Trump were to win the popular vote, he would 364 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: win every toss up state. And this would not be 365 00:19:55,280 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: particularly a close election in the electoral college, because Trump 366 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: could lose the popular vote by a couple of points 367 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: and still be elected president just based on how the 368 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: electoral College favors in some way the Republican Party. So 369 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: I think that's worth factoring in second part of this buck. 370 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 2: If you look at the ages, this surprised me a 371 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: little bit. What did not surprise me young people those 372 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: aged eighteen to thirty four are Joe Biden's most reliable supporters. 373 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: They vote for. 374 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: Biden by seventeen points fifty five to thirty eight, you know, 375 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 2: the only other age range that Joe Biden won in 376 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: the CNN pull buck sixty five plus. 377 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: That surprised me. Biden has a lot of youth support. 378 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: That did not. 379 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: But older Americans are giving Biden a small lead. Those 380 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: age thirty five to sixty four, Trump wins by basically 381 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: double digits, thirty five to sixty four. All in on 382 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: the Trump train, over sixty five, under thirty four, all 383 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: in on Biden. Does that surprise you that Biden would 384 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: have old and young and that Trump would have such 385 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: a commanding lead in what I would say is the 386 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: Wheelhouse voting range of Americans age thirty five to sixty four. 387 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: It's surprising, but it's a snapshot right now of an 388 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: election that's a long ways away. I mean, look, man, 389 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: I understand a lot of the numbers right now. If 390 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: you're gonna do if you're gonna look at Trump v. 391 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: Biden and say, well, Trump's ahead, maybe he won the 392 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: popular vote. That would mean Nicky Haley's gonna win the 393 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: biggest landslide, you know, since since Reagan, that's not gonna happen. 394 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: That's definitely not happening. There's no way. 395 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: So there are twenty states that each party is going 396 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: to win. There are ten states up for grabs, right 397 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: So like the forty nine to one Reagan nineteen eighty 398 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: four lands slide, the math doesn't line up for that. 399 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 2: When I say a landslide, I just mean we can 400 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: go to bed at ten o'clock or eleven o'clock eastern 401 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: and we know who won the election, which I would 402 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: like to have happen for a change, that would be 403 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: nice and that would certainly I think, help a lot 404 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 2: of people's faith in how the election process is working. 405 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: I just I just think the Clay we're kind of 406 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: assessing who's going to win the game based on you know, 407 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: like the betting numbers before the Super Bowl or something. 408 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing is, nothing's really happened. Are you familiar 409 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: with sports. 410 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: Talker that is like the who's gonna win the game, 411 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: especially in football, is like ninety eight percent of the 412 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: time that you spend talking. 413 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: No, I get it. But what I'm saying is we're 414 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: real We're in the pre pre show here, like this 415 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: is this is very early in this process. I think 416 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: that the outstanding questions are are they making a massive 417 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: political error? Is this the biggest political error really in 418 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: And you know, certainly since Hillary twenty sixteen when they 419 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: just thought she was gonna walk to victory by indicting 420 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: Trump and doing all that. We've been saying, there's been 421 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: consistency here on the show. I've been saying they think, 422 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: meaning Democrats, this will help them. They might be wrong. 423 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: And I keep bringing up to see an example of 424 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: seeing them put Trump on air night after night saying, look, lo, 425 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: look at this guy. M what a clown, right, everyone knows, 426 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: such a clown. And actually a lot of working class voters, 427 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: many of whom had been former Obama or Democrat voters or whatever, 428 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: came out and they really liked this guy CNN was 429 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: putting on air in twenty sixteen. So it was a 430 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: huge blunder on the airport. They gave him like a 431 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: billion dollars of free media when they actually did it 432 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: might have even been a little more than that. So 433 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: they may be making a huge error right now. The difference, 434 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: so this is the other part of or the you know, 435 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: the addition to the question is, so are they making 436 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: an error by trying to weaponize everything against Trump in 437 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: an election year? Are the American people just by majority, 438 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: not everybody obviously, but by majority, are they feeling like 439 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: this is too much the left, the Democrats have gone 440 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: too far. We just have to take a stand against 441 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: this weaponization. The other component to this, though, is then, 442 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: is their plan lock Trump up, take him off ballots essentially, 443 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: you know, not just rig the system in terms of 444 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: perception and using the legal process to try to peel 445 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: votes away, but to stop him from effectively being able 446 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: to run for president. You know what I mean. There's 447 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: like the propaganda component and the brute force of the system, 448 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: and I think that these are the two things that 449 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: they're So maybe they're losing on the propaganda, maybe they're 450 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: losing on the messaging warfare side of this, but they're 451 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: still hoping they're going to be able to do it 452 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: with the brute foreside. 453 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 2: Do you remember, and I don't know if you grew 454 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: up with these stories, it used to be the Disney 455 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: before they banned it. I think, do you remember Breer Rabbit? 456 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: Do you remember that story? They decided that Braer Rabbit 457 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 2: was racist, so they did away with the Disney ride, 458 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: the Waterfall ride, Splash Mountain. There's a segment of Brear Rabbit, 459 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: and it's, you know, a larger metaphor. Obviously, Breer Rabbit 460 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: gets caught and he begs and begs not to be 461 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: thrown into the briar patch. Begs and begs, says, please, 462 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: whatever you do, don't throw me into the briar patch. 463 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: And they throw him into briar patch. And that's exactly 464 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: where he wants to be. I keep thinking on the 465 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: Trump front that we're seeing a braer rabbit in the 466 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: briar patch moment where Trump is raging against what they 467 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: are doing, and deep down he is of the belief 468 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 2: and he's a gambler and has spent much of his 469 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: career sometimes doing counterintuitive things that this is going to 470 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 2: redown to his benefit and he actually wants to be 471 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: in the briar patch. 472 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: Well that we saw that in twenty sixteen. Yeah, right, 473 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: that was the reality was They thought the more that 474 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: is out there, the more people will be turned off 475 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: and he will lose. And that turned out to be 476 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: the media. They completely you know, they completely messed up 477 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: that whole situation, well to our benefit, but to what 478 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: they were trying to achieve. It was a huge blunder. 479 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: But I just feel like, I mean, look at look 480 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: at what would it have sounded like. I mean, you know, 481 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I think it's September Clay of 482 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. I was sitting there telling my audience at 483 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: the time, everybody, this is as good as it gets. 484 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Trump is kicking ass. The economy is amazing, we're not 485 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: at war. Things are great, things are looking great for 486 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 1: next year. But we don't know everything in terms of 487 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: political analysis for the twenty twenty election in September of 488 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen got thrown out the window within three months, 489 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: basically four months. Right now, I don't think we're heading 490 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: for a once to the century pandemic, but I do 491 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: think that there. 492 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 6: Are some. 493 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: Things that are already laid out for us, right I mean, 494 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: what do people think if they actually try to lock 495 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Trump up? I know that maybe they don't end up 496 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: having this d trial, but maybe they do. How does 497 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: that affect perception I would I would assume, or I 498 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't even assume. I would assess that people would say 499 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: this is an outrage and an injustice. But I don't 500 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: know what independent voters might be like. I can't deal 501 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: with this anymore, you know, I can't handle this emotionally. 502 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. Here's what we do know. Biden right 503 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: now is in a terrible spot relative to where he 504 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: wants to be, and there's enough weakness that there are 505 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: probably considerations going on. To your point about what's to 506 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: break the glass plan here, I think there are considerations 507 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: for it. I still think they probably stick with the 508 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: horse they've gotten the race, but it's a really old 509 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: horse that definitely needs to be put out to pasture 510 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: and do other things to be president. 511 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 2: Here's another question for you, Buck too. As we sit 512 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: here talking, Biden's dementia is not getting better. 513 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: I think we agree on that. Right. 514 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: Whatever his mental and physical fitness level is today, and 515 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 2: it's not good, probably is going to be substantially worse 516 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 2: this time next year. Do you think let me tell 517 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 2: you this, let me, let me, let me put this 518 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 2: out there, because I'm going back in time, Clay, we 519 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 2: all thought Biden was gonna have like Fetterman moments. 520 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: Isn't an amazing that's the thing now, Fedterman moments it is, 521 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: though moments were McConnell moments. Simply to be fair, Yeah, 522 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: we thought that would happen. In the twenty twenty election. 523 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: Biden performed okay in the debates. People can yell at 524 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: me and say that he lied and he's horrible. Yeah, fine, 525 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: but he didn't have like scrambled eggs up top moments. 526 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: He actually did his thing, and I think and people 527 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: were saying that what drugs? Remember this, what drugs are 528 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: they injecting him with? I could see that same situation 529 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: here where we go, oh, he's he's gonna stumble on 530 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 1: stage and then he presents I'm fine, guys, I I 531 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, look at me on stage. These are some 532 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: of the fact These are X factors, or these are 533 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: these are changes in perception that can happen very very rapidly. Look, 534 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: I would love to see a Democrat primary. Can you imagine? 535 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: Get out your popcorn, everybody. It would just be so 536 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: much fun because everyone is Gavin Noosey. Do you think 537 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: people are gonna make way for Gavin Newsom? No way, 538 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna be a whole bunch of Democrats who I 539 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: guess hee, Corey Booker's probably gonna run again. And I 540 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: mean you go down the list, tons of people are 541 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: gonna be getting in there, or people will just h yeah, look, 542 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: and the convention would be even crazier. Bernie's gonna run. 543 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: Do you think Bernie thinks he's too old? Bernie thinks 544 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: he's the guy? 545 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: Still? 546 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 2: I think that that well, I am just increasingly optimistic 547 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: that Biden is going to be much worse next year. 548 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: He may have such a crippling moment in the public 549 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 2: that it becomes impossible to defend him. But I think 550 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: that when you look at these numbers. The other thing 551 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 2: I was gonna say Buck is I don't think the 552 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 2: economy is gonna have some massive rebound between now and 553 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 2: next year. 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We got some calls up eight 588 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: hundred and two eight two Q eight eight two. Let's 589 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: see what you got, Scott in Michigan where we just 590 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: added a great station in Detroit. Very excited about that. 591 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: What's going on, Scott? 592 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: Hey? 593 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 2: Not a lot? 594 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 3: How are you guys doing today. 595 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 6: We're good. 596 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: What's on your mind? 597 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: All right? So here's the deal. As I was listening 598 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 3: to you guys go through your your list of the 599 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is and the Gavin Newsom's, it just struck me. 600 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: As I was sitting here, I'm going, you know, the 601 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: one person who's been a great, great ally to the 602 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: Biden administration is Gretchen Whitmer. I realized she hasn't said anything, 603 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 3: but that woman has done everything the Biden administration has 604 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: asked of her and more and and unfortunately, and I 605 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: hate to admit this, but she has more gray matter 606 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 3: in her little finger than Newsoman Kamala Harris combined. So 607 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: I just as a dark horse, I just I just 608 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: think she might actually come out of the woods. 609 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 2: She's in the mix, by the way. Uh And we 610 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: appreciate you listening in Michigan. Are the Lions going to 611 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: beat the Chiefs? By the way tonight? 612 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: Scott? 613 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: All right, So this is what I'll tell you. I 614 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: am a Bears fan through and through it from Chicago originally, 615 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 3: but they're playing some good football, but I don't know 616 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 3: if they're playing Patrick Mahomes South Football. 617 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate the buck. 618 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 2: Did you know that the NFL season kicks off tonight, 619 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: in that the Detroit Lions at nine ten am, the 620 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: team of Southeast Michigan. Except for our caller there, who 621 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 2: is a Bears fan, there are a lot of long 622 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: suffering lines fans. Did you know the NFL season kicks 623 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: off tonight? 624 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 6: No? 625 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: But I always learned so many interesting things on this show, 626 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: So that was one of them. There we go in Pennsylvania. 627 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: What have you got for us? 628 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 6: Hey? 629 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 7: The point I wanted to make is I watch these 630 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 7: debates and I think these candidates and the Senate candidates 631 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 7: and Congress candidates who should be running against Democrats, not 632 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 7: just Biden or whatever. This is what the Democrats are 633 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 7: doing to you. This is what the Democrats want to 634 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 7: do to you. You know, they think by just getting 635 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 7: another candidate in there that would want to reach across 636 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 7: the aisle and be you know, make deals that never happens. 637 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 7: They run Democratic, they vote Democratic, and people just don't 638 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 7: understand that. I mean, if they switch a candidate and 639 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 7: remove Biden and bring somebody else in, they'll think that 640 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 7: this versus different, instead of they're going to do the 641 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 7: same exact thing that Biden's doing, the same People are 642 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 7: going to be. 643 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: A well a lot of people. 644 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: And I think this is true for a lot of 645 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 2: Republican and Democrat voters. If they decide to go to 646 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 2: the polls, they simply don't think who the president is 647 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: is going to change their life. 648 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's the truth. 649 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 2: Sadly, for a lot of people out there, they've lost 650 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: faith in the political system. And I think that's why 651 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 2: Trump had such an appeal, because he disrupted the consistent 652 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: political systems that most of us have seen for our lives. 653 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: In the same thanks for calling in. And it's to say, 654 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: in the same poll Claven talking about I dug into 655 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: a little bit here. Again, independent voters in this poll 656 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 1: are breaking for Biden forty seven to thirty eight. Yeah, 657 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: nation So he is crushing Trump on independent voters right 658 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: now nationwide. Again it's a poll, it's a snapshot, but 659 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: a nine point differential independent voters is big. And then 660 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: suburban women, which I keep saying about it true, fifty 661 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: one percent Biden to forty four percent Trump. It's not 662 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: about the popular vote, it's not about nationwide polling. It 663 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: is about getting the votes you need in the states 664 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: you need them. So maybe sure, we get a better 665 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: Republican turnout of New York and California. In some places 666 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: like that, Democrats still win that state. And then it 667 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: comes down to independent voters and suburban women in the 668 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: six Key states. So that's why, you know, it starts 669 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: that you narrow this feel down very rapidly. 670 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: We got all in, yeah, out in Ohio, I think 671 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 2: is up next? 672 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay. I'm a registered Republican. My wife is registered Democrat, 673 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 6: and she would vote for a hand sandwich if ham 674 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 6: Sandwich was at the top of the slate. And like, 675 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 6: I'll ask her things, Hey, did you see how fine 676 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 6: Stein performed? Did you sell John Fetterman performed? Do you 677 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,759 Speaker 6: realize Hunter, you know, committed to filling when do you 678 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 6: filed that gun application? Did you hear that he's been 679 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 6: paying his dad's bills for thirty years? And say, with 680 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 6: life with the Hunter Bogden thing, she says, why do 681 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 6: you believe that he's a drug addict? And so as 682 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 6: I said, I believe, and I mean she has relatives. 683 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 6: They're the same way they would vote for a hand sandwich. 684 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: If it was at the top of the So I think, sir, 685 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: we need to get your wife to just maybe start 686 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: listening to the Clay and Buck Show a little bit. 687 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 1: You know, we'll just sort of ease her into things. 688 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 1: Get her listen here, get some family members to listen 689 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: in as well, and it'll be make for a very 690 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: interesting Thanksgiving dinner play. 691 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 2: We're very likable. I think your wife. I don't know her, 692 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: but if she's married to you and you're a very 693 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 2: logical and sane man, I think she would really like 694 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 2: us too. So yeah, I would suggest maybe just occasionally 695 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: turn the radio up a little bit when she walks 696 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 2: through the room. 697 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: I think she gets convinced over time.