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Speaker 2: Good morning, another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Ready for a

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Speaker 2: big Sunday in the world of our sporting universe. Everything

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Speaker 2: colliding conference title games, maybe a six to ten regular

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Speaker 2: season team that finds its way to the dance and

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Speaker 2: as everybody upset, We've got a guy who's got the

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Speaker 2: Dan Bayer showing up here early on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: What's going on to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, throwing a time change for most of us, and

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Speaker 3: it is a crazy time of year. The madness has arrived.

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Speaker 3: I love the conference tournaments. It's a great, great week

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Speaker 3: and excited to do this for the next three hours.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you it's that strange convergence of everything on

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Speaker 2: the schedule. I'm wearing a new white Sox Bill Belichick

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Speaker 2: inspired cutoff hoodie thing. You know, when you use all

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Speaker 2: those extra bonus points and bucks they give you, you can

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Speaker 2: really get the cost down. But I feel kind of

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Speaker 2: strange with it. I should just have the hood up

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Speaker 2: the whole time. But my White Sox sixty two and

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Speaker 2: a half is the over under for wins this year, Dan.

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Speaker 3: Not twenty's it twenty six.

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Speaker 2: Let's just move it ahead as we go. But you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the time change. Me, being the paranoid guy that

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Speaker 2: I am, was up really really early thinking I was

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Speaker 2: going to oversleep long before an alarm was ever gonna

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Speaker 2: go off, stalking the hallways like ridiculous. But the New

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Speaker 2: Adventures of Old Christine is on at like three point

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Speaker 2: thirty in the mornings.

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Speaker 3: You found that out today that ends up happening. I

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Speaker 3: am still like not trusting my phone that the actual

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Speaker 3: phone would realize, which they all do now.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that that I would do the switch.

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, maybe it's just our generation and it has

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Speaker 3: for however of long we've had these phones that have

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Speaker 3: been able to do so. But that was my fear.

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Speaker 3: But I did did change all of the clocks before

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Speaker 3: last night, so it was good to go, good to

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Speaker 3: go today. But I did freak out at one point

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Speaker 3: and be like, all right, I hope that, I hope

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I hope this is the correct time. And

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Speaker 3: I think we're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we made it. We are here at Dan Byron Fox,

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Speaker 2: where you find of me here Dan during the week

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Speaker 2: as part of the Doug Gottlieb Show, and Cavino and

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Speaker 2: Rich here on the network, and you find me if

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Speaker 2: you're so inclined. Seven to to eleven Pacific time, Jason

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Speaker 2: Smith and I are arguing about all the good, the bad,

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Speaker 2: the ugly in the world of sports, with a lot

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Speaker 2: of Jets and Mets derision mixed in with his delusion

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Speaker 2: about that Kyle Philipowski back in the news once again.

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Speaker 2: I had the line about the Jimmy legs, the famous

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Speaker 2: Sinfield episode, he stopped short, that's my move, All of

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Speaker 2: those things, but a trip of Harrison Ingram during the

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Speaker 2: Duke North Carolina game yesterday, which maybe I'm wrong, forgive

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong. College buckets on the men's side,

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Speaker 2: I think needed another incident like this to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're still here. Because it's been ju Ju Watkins, it's

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Speaker 2: been Caitlin Clark. You heard it with Andy Furman and

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. Still a lot of people fired up of

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Speaker 2: how you sort out all the Caitlin Clark, what's a record,

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Speaker 2: what's not a record? What's a made for TV record?

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Speaker 2: To get you to make sure you're clinging to every

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Speaker 2: of that stuff. But for the men's side, not the

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Speaker 2: same level of the juice. Right, Obviously, I'm excited Northwestern

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Speaker 2: wins twelve Big Ten games for the second year in

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Speaker 2: a row, Chris Collins with a great year. Boo booye,

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Speaker 2: one of the great names of the game. May come on,

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Speaker 2: Boo booie, that's about as good as you. But you know,

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Speaker 2: they win last night in resounding fashion on Senior Night

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Speaker 2: all that. So I'm tied into that and keep tabs

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Speaker 2: on my conference and Zachi Edy and everybody else. But

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Speaker 3: Up big no, no. And it's it's been interesting even

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Speaker 3: with the last year. Mike. If you go back the

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Speaker 3: tournament always provides excitement because of that's what the tournament is.

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Speaker 3: But when you even go back to just even the

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Speaker 3: final four of what we had last year because there

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Speaker 3: were so many cinderellas with Florida Atlantic FAU making into

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Speaker 3: look at that final four and you stand and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: well maybe we watched somebody go to the NBA, right

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Speaker 3: like when like somebody carry their team to the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Well that didn't necessarily happen. So now you're carried over

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Speaker 3: to this college basketball season and you're some familiar names.

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Speaker 3: Zach Edy's the most I think prominent of them all.

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Speaker 3: But still how many times, you know, in the last

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Speaker 3: it's been a grind, even for college basketball lovers like

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Speaker 3: It's been a mix. You haven't had a dominant, dominant team.

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Speaker 3: of jockeying for position with that number one spot. But

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Speaker 3: to be released, and Houston right now is the number

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Speaker 3: one team in the country, and I don't know if

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Speaker 3: crap out of Kansas yesterday. So it's it's it's really

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Speaker 3: a weird sort of feel the tournament will be the

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Speaker 3: it makes Then you bring Cinderella to the ball and

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Speaker 3: you have your excitement. But yeah, just on its own,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the only big moment that we had in

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Speaker 2: several straight games. But the tar Heels yesterday eighty four

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Speaker 2: and I were kind of exchanging notes heading into this morning, Dan,

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Speaker 2: this was emblematic of what forty years, thirty years, I

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Speaker 2: guess we go back to the lat Nur Duke run

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Speaker 2: all the way through of where the angst flows through Philipowski.

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Speaker 2: Obviously we had the court storming and everybody doing all

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Speaker 2: ought to be these but it's like, Okay, he was fine.

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Speaker 2: He was doing windmill dunks and whatever. Five days later

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Speaker 2: then yesterday we have one of the more egregious trips

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Speaker 2: And he tries to claim what I didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was back there? You know, I just kind of kicked

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Speaker 3: It happens all the time, right Mike, Well, you know.

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Speaker 2: My dog does that when he passes a tree. That's

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Speaker 2: about the only comparison I can make about the you know,

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Speaker 2: Pavlovian response and not having your senses about you.

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Speaker 3: Doing his own business exactly. This is why people hate Duke.

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Speaker 3: This is why, even after the court storming, whether you

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Speaker 3: thought Philipowski was injured or not, shouldn't have been put

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Speaker 3: in that situation like he shouldn't have been. It is

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Speaker 3: not his fault that he had a fan run into

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Speaker 3: him going, you know, full speed ahead from the student section.

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Speaker 3: Wake Forest completely dropped the ball. But this is the

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Speaker 3: problem with it is Duke is a team that always

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Speaker 3: gets court stormed. Right, Like if you go on the road,

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Speaker 3: if you're Duke, you always have to prepare that if

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Speaker 3: the court. Whether Duke is second in the country, whether

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Speaker 3: they're tenth in the country, it is what happens with Duke.

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Speaker 3: And here's the scenario a few weeks back. Well, we

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Speaker 3: could actually sympathize with Duke. We can empathize, but like

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Speaker 3: able to figure that out. That really stinks for Duke.

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Speaker 3: That's too bad. And now you have this here, and

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Speaker 3: you're right, the Filipowski thing. We're seeing the facial gestures.

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Speaker 3: We don't know if it's a knee, we don't know

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Speaker 3: Then he's back the next week and he's doing windmill

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Speaker 3: it wasn't you know that injured. Maybe he's trying to

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Speaker 3: milk it. And now to see, as you would like

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Speaker 3: to say, full heel turn from a week ago, that's

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Speaker 3: what it was. And this isn't the first and that's

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Speaker 3: not even and that wasn't even the only thing. Like

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Speaker 3: people don't love North Carolina around the country. But if

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Speaker 3: you had to pick, now, who do you like, North

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Speaker 3: like this, because of tripping, because of maybe over exaggerating

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Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt. You know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody got up in arms, right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all over the place of how do you police this? Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know I joked about all right, the random UFC

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Speaker 2: cage comes up in the final minute and it's got

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Speaker 2: a buzzer, yeah, right, like the you know, it happened

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Speaker 2: be open next. And then you hear the buzzer and

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, he's not now at

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Speaker 2: least it's a three lee you know that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: Uh So maybe there's that. Maybe there's you know, the

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Speaker 2: invisible fence again like you would use with your dog

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Speaker 2: and you get shocked if you come walking towards it.

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Speaker 2: But yes, everybody got on boards like wow, this is

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Speaker 2: terrible and it's awful it happens to Duke. I didn't

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Speaker 2: need to be lectured by the coaches and whatever else,

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Speaker 2: like we're all adults, Like, don't talk at us like

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Speaker 2: we're kids. Go go go have that with your conference

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Speaker 2: commissioner if you need to. But finger wagging at the

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Speaker 3: And by the way, just quickly interject whether you were

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Speaker 3: for court storming or against court storming. I think we

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Speaker 3: were all in unison that said that really stinks that

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Speaker 3: he may have gotten right, like so look like there

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Speaker 3: was there was no I mean you may have been like, boy,

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Speaker 3: he exaggerated because, as he said, you didn't know if

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Speaker 3: it was a knee or an ankle, but nobody felt

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Speaker 3: that the players should be put in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Nobody wants to guy to get no, didn't absolutely not right.

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Speaker 2: Maybe a flying high five as he goes past, even

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Speaker 2: if you lose whatever. But then you have this with

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Speaker 3: to revitalize his career, Mike Tomlin, Maybe I'm on the

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Speaker 3: hot seat. They like to run the ball. I think

432
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Speaker 3: Russ needs a running game. I think he needs to

433
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Speaker 3: rely on the running game and anything he does on

434
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Speaker 3: top of that works. But man, I just I don't

435
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Speaker 3: see a lot of other situations where he can be

436
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Speaker 3: the man and have it be successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Pittsburgh one is the most intriguing. It flies

438
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Speaker 2: in the face of everything they've ever done, which is

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Speaker 2: why I think it's always been at arm's length. Like

440
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Speaker 2: it may make sense, but it's at arm's length because

441
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Speaker 2: they've never really gone and done this. And Smith and

442
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Speaker 2: I have talked about at you and I a little

443
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Speaker 2: bit as the season war on with iWatch Reflex and

444
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Speaker 2: kind of getting towards the end of the season of

445
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Speaker 2: all right, where are places that are going to be

446
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Speaker 2: looking for a quarterback? And then they did all the

447
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Speaker 2: talking points on Omar Khan and company talking about of

448
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Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, talking about Rudolph and what they've got there,

449
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Speaker 2: and the consensus seemingly being that they want to give

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Speaker 2: pick it one more shot, whereas when you have ownership

451
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Speaker 2: finally chiming in which they generally don't. Right, They've been

452
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Speaker 2: quiet for a long time, the Rooney family talking about

453
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Speaker 2: this can't stand. We need to be better, right, all

454
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Speaker 2: the stuff that we theorized that everybody was like up

455
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Speaker 2: in arms and mad about, conversations about Mike Tomlin's job,

456
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Speaker 2: like I'm sorry, I love the guy, loved the quotes

457
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Speaker 2: great for our fodder right after a win or a

458
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Speaker 2: loss or whatever else. And yes, they win consistently, they

459
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Speaker 2: don't win big consistently, And as an owner, is that

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Speaker 2: good enough? I mean after a while, Right, we saw

461
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Speaker 2: it in Cincinnati, Marvin Lewis got them to a number

462
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Speaker 2: of playoff runs. They decided it wasn't good enough and

463
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Speaker 2: they went and bottomed out again. But they said, we

464
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Speaker 2: can't do this and keep exiting in the first round

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Speaker 2: of the playoffs. For the Steelers, that's what we're doing.

466
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Speaker 2: It goes back to the Sean Payton thing, like you're

467
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Speaker 2: not that guy anymore. That super Bowl is long in

468
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Speaker 2: the rear view, so the super genius thing and whatever.

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Speaker 2: While we may still love you and think you've got

470
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Speaker 2: some greatness ahead of you, maybe you got to show

471
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Speaker 2: it again. You got to show it again. You're living

472
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Speaker 2: off something from a long, long time ago. Likewise, Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin in terms of reaching and winning a super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: that's forever ago. Man, my White Sox one of two

475
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Speaker 2: thousand and five, I might as well have been two

476
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Speaker 2: years old at that point.

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Speaker 3: There's with the expanded playoffs in the NFL and what

478
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Speaker 3: we have seen, and I know, like you think, like, hey,

479
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Speaker 3: let's just get in the bracket and see what happens.

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Speaker 3: And the Chiefs were what a three seed, and they

481
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Speaker 3: end up you know, making their run. Mike, there is

482
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Speaker 3: such a gap between playoff team and super Bowl contender

483
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Speaker 3: in the National Football League. Now, when you're allowing that

484
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Speaker 3: seven team in the conference to make the postseason and

485
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Speaker 3: be there, and that's who the Steelers are, Like, there's

486
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Speaker 3: no way, no one thought that that would be a contender. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you made the playoffs, but it's a different you add

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Speaker 3: that extra team. And that's what would also be interesting

489
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Speaker 3: is if you don't expand the playoffs like you did,

490
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Speaker 3: you've got two less playoff appearances. Is they were the

491
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Speaker 3: seventh seed this past year. And I believe when they

492
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Speaker 3: played the Chiefs, you know, a few years ago, when

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Speaker 3: that Roethlisberger team ended up sneaking in at the end,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, how the heck did that team make

495
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Speaker 3: the playoffs? Like they're far away, they're I don't want

496
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Speaker 3: to say that they're closer to the worst team in

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Speaker 3: the league. Is Carolina's so bad, but they aren't even

498
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Speaker 3: close to being a super Bowl contender with Kansas City

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Speaker 3: or San Francisco or any of those.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny. You have pieces right, certainly offensively, and

501
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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson might be on the trade block. That's one

502
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Speaker 2: of the many names that's out there. And we certainly

503
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Speaker 2: saw the battles back and forth, he and Pickens and

504
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks and O c's and whether Arthur Smith does he

505
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Speaker 2: have anybody he can forget about on his lineup like

506
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Speaker 2: Jean Robinson in Atlanta. You know what, you're just not

507
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Speaker 2: getting the ball for these five games. But like on paper,

508
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Speaker 2: you've got a roster at least at the skill positions

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Speaker 2: that match up with a lot of other teams, except

510
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Speaker 2: at the one that matters. Yes, the quarterback position. Right,

511
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Speaker 2: if TJ. Watt's healthy, and we know the records, they're

512
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Speaker 2: terrible when he doesn't play, but defensively always fairly strong. Offensively,

513
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Speaker 2: you've got weaponry. If Friarmooth's healthy, and you know, Pickens

514
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Speaker 2: is the guy that we see glimpses of and you

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Speaker 2: can grab that. You got the dual backfield, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: but you don't have the guy under center, and the

517
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Speaker 2: gap is so large. I mean, where where would pick

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Speaker 2: it rank out of one through thirty two?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's yeah.

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Speaker 2: He's down. I mean we can do it, we can

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Speaker 2: rank him no, But but it's just that idea of

522
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Speaker 2: if you don't have that guy, then none of it matters.

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Speaker 2: But can Russell Wilson be that guy at this point.

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Speaker 3: It almost I hate to say it, but like it

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Speaker 3: almost just put a pause on where they were. Like

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Speaker 3: if you didn't draft Kenny Pickett and you used it

527
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Speaker 3: on someone else, would you have been better or worse?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but you at least wouldn't be where

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Speaker 3: you are right now, right, you know, right, Like there's

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Speaker 3: like Kenny Pickett was a you know, mid to late

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Speaker 3: for it was around nineteen was that where he was picked?

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Speaker 3: And that's we're talking mid to late round, first round pick,

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Speaker 3: and we're we're not giving guys picked in the top

534
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Speaker 3: five three years to figure it out, you know, so

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Speaker 3: like it's it's time to move on. So there's and

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Speaker 3: that's the situation in Pittsburgh. You just kind of want

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Speaker 3: it would be. It would be a break from the

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Speaker 3: norm mic, But it's also like of just like, how

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Speaker 3: about truly investing in the position. I just don't think

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Speaker 3: like taking Picket in the first round where they did

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Speaker 3: is truly investing. Truly investing is trading up going to

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Speaker 3: get a guy that you think is going to be

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Speaker 3: an absolute difference maker. They knew more about Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 3: than anybody you know.

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Speaker 2: In the building.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, literally yeah, just went through a different or he had. Huh,

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Speaker 3: And so it may it may even make the situation

548
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Speaker 3: even worse because they have the most information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your recall of where he was drafted pretty pretty scary.

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Speaker 3: He was twentieth, was he okay? Yeah somewhere.

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Speaker 2: But the fact that you know you're recalling that, I

552
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Speaker 2: just you know, he's first round and he's getting everybody's

553
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Speaker 2: starting to add that little bust thing in pencil and

554
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Speaker 2: maybe already into the permanent marker along the way. But

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Speaker 2: for the Steelers, it really is the put up or

556
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Speaker 2: shut up kind of year, at least on paper. But

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Speaker 2: will they actually follow through? Like that's the larger thing. Yeah,

558
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,719
Speaker 2: it's nice to finally talk about it, saying, hey, this

559
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: cannot stand. But what are you actually going to do

560
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Speaker 2: about it?

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Speaker 3: Look at that division, look at who you're dealing with.

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Speaker 3: You know, Lebron's and Deshaun Watson. I know something we'll

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Speaker 3: dive into at some point. But at least they went

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Speaker 3: after it. They went for it, right, Yeah. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you may not like Deshaun Watson, you didn't like

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Speaker 3: what they gave him as a contract, They're like, we're

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Speaker 3: gonna do something about it. The Bengals have Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens have Lamar Jackson, the league's MVP. What are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do about it, Pittsburgh, because that's what you're

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Speaker 3: competing against. They're going to be competing against for the

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Speaker 3: next five or ten years.

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Speaker 2: Cleveland ran out four different guys. Yeah, Joe Flaco off

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Speaker 2: the street. Yeah, lost a couple of guys in their

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Speaker 2: secondary down the stretch and still went on too the

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Speaker 2: Loewencron over in our Updates studio. He's got what's trending

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Speaker 6: Go on, Buddy, why, thank you Mike, and morning to

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Speaker 6: you and Dan. And speaking of a good morning, you

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Speaker 6: know who's having one. Kansas City Chiefs star defensive tackle

590
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Speaker 6: Chris Jones because he's agreed to a new five year

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Speaker 6: deal that includes ninety five million dollars in guaranteed money.

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Speaker 6: He'd been said to become an unrestricted free agent. On Monday,

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Speaker 6: NFL media reports the Broncos sidic safety PJ Lock to

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Speaker 6: a two year, seven million dollar deal in the NBA.

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Speaker 6: On Saturday night, the Boston Celtics won at Phoenix one

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Speaker 6: seventeen to one oh seven despite forty five by Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 6: Celtics are the best record of the NBA at forty

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Speaker 6: nine and fourteen. Denver's Jamal Murray scored thirty seven in

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Speaker 6: their one forty two to one twenty one victory at Utah.

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Speaker 6: Denver half a game behind first place Oklahoma City in

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Speaker 6: the Western Conference. College hoops coming up today at noon Eastern,

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Speaker 6: it's the Big South Tournement Championship game between Longwood and

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Speaker 6: unc Ashville. In women's basketball, At noon Eastern, the Big

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Speaker 6: Ten Tournement Championship game between number three Iowa and Nebrasso. Finally,

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Speaker 6: at the World Cup of Cross Country Skiing, Saturday's fifty

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Speaker 6: kilometer women's championship race at Oslo, Norway's famous Holman Colin

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Speaker 6: Stadium was marred by a mass brawl of drunken fans.

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Speaker 6: One hundred and thirty people were treated for injuries and

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Speaker 6: told the newspaper expressing quote, the track smelled of alcohol

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Speaker 6: and something sweet. It was a naval battle. Unquote. A

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Speaker 6: fan named Varonique commented quote, we Norwegians need to binge

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Speaker 6: drink more than any other population. We're not feeling good,

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Speaker 6: so it's the only way. Nothing is as good as

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Speaker 6: fast unquote. That's the latest in cross country skis back to.

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Speaker 2: You, guys. It's the greatest translation ever of it gets bonkers.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've heard that since Regis Philman was

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Speaker 6: The pictures made it look like Coachella and the waste

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Speaker 6: management allpen on steroids.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to Oslo next year.

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Speaker 3: I'm a quarter in Norwegian. Let's do it, let's.

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Speaker 2: Get it on. Yeah, there you go, the you know,

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Speaker 2: ex wife's side all Swedish. It works out well. I

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Speaker 2: like Oslo.

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Speaker 3: Oslo is a lot of funny Any any Finns around

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Speaker 3: the area. You know, we can have Scandinavia covered if

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Speaker 3: we needed, Helsinki, Finland. Isaac just a reminder, just good.

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Speaker 2: One, good one. That's Isaac Lohan Conniest Empire, Oh my carbon.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we look at the world of free

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Speaker 2: agency through a different lens, the fantasy fortunes, and maybe

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson comes up again as well as the ninety

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Speaker 2: five million dollar Man. Because I just a bow in

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Speaker 2: his general direction. He's Dan. I'm Mike and this is

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Speaker 2: Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll get into the

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Speaker 2: big trade. Yes, we talked to AFC North. We'll go

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Speaker 2: get a little bit of the mistake by the lake,

644
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Speaker 2: all the different euphemisms we can have for Cleveland as

645
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Speaker 2: they make a deal to bring in a disgruntled wide receiver.

646
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Speaker 2: Does it mean that they're loading up for their embattled

647
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Speaker 2: quarterback or does that mean that another wide receiver is gone?

648
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Speaker 2: Or can both be true? We'll see. But we're talking

649
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Speaker 2: fantasy impact of upcoming free agency here, Dan. As we

650
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Speaker 2: continue on the show this morning, and it's exciting time

651
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Speaker 2: of year. We've already done The Eyewatcher Flex podcast is

652
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Speaker 2: up and going. We did the season finale, which we

653
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Speaker 2: always do a five round mock. Now it's guessing where

654
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Speaker 2: guys are gonna to go. Usually we inject a couple

655
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Speaker 2: of college guys just because you know, you got to

656
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Speaker 2: inject a couple of college guys saying, hey, they're gonna

657
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Speaker 2: make a splash. You can find out who those college

658
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Speaker 2: players were and how the sixty picks went down with

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Speaker 2: Ryan Burschegor Dan and myself the ilaanch Reflex podcast wherever

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Speaker 2: you download your audio, download it, rate it, comment, send

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Speaker 2: us notes at Dan Byron Fox at Swowndom will integrate

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Speaker 2: those as we get to the next iteration of things.

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Speaker 2: But you know, one of the things that we try

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Speaker 2: to do is place where guys are going to go

665
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Speaker 2: and looking for immediate impact. And again the nod to

666
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Speaker 2: Chris Jones in his Five Years ninety five, we always

667
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Speaker 2: talk about quarterbacks and finding a guy who can get

668
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Speaker 2: to a quarterback. Good job by him. Some of the

669
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Speaker 2: advanced metrics are just ridiculous in terms of double teams

670
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Speaker 2: and his effectiveness. It's basically him, Aaron Donald and the

671
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Speaker 2: rest of the world. But when we look at free

672
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Speaker 2: agency coming up, you know you, normally we start with

673
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Speaker 2: wide receivers who can go to a new place and

674
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Speaker 2: really make an impact. And I just shrug. In terms

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Speaker 2: of the guys that are true free agents. Now, Deontay

676
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Speaker 2: Johnson may get traded, sure, Michael Gallup has been given

677
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Speaker 2: permission to seek trade.

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Speaker 3: Whatever.

679
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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a guy that finds himself in another situation

680
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Speaker 2: that way. We'll again we'll get to Judy coming up

681
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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. But the actual free

682
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Speaker 2: agents are secondary and tertiary guys like okay, yeah, they're

683
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Speaker 2: they're Jags. So we start looking at running backs and

684
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Speaker 2: the quarterback carousel in particular, and that's where it gets

685
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Speaker 2: far more interesting.

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Speaker 3: I looked at the running back scenario and it's it's

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Speaker 3: when you look at the names, like it is a

688
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Speaker 3: who's who. Well, the wide receivers are more of a

689
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Speaker 3: who's that. This is a who's who when it comes

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Speaker 3: to running backs in the National Football League. And what

691
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Speaker 3: I found surprising was I thought, Mike that it's Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 3: And then then the dominoes end up falling where they

693
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Speaker 3: may because there could be an opportunity where Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 3: returns to the Giant. But I just thought like that

695
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Speaker 3: was that was the name. And I asked Mark Dominic

696
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Speaker 3: on the network on Friday, and the former GM of

697
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Speaker 3: the Buccaneers, I just kind of assume this is Barkley

698
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Speaker 3: the domino that it all falls in, and he said

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Speaker 3: he thinks Eckler is the first one to sign, which

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Speaker 3: is interesting because we know in the fantasy world of

701
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Speaker 3: what Austin Eckler can do. We also know what Saquon

702
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Speaker 3: Barkley can do. But if you fight Austin Eckler in

703
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Speaker 3: the right situation, I think it would be such an

704
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Speaker 3: any succeeds, it would be such an indictment of what

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Speaker 3: the Chargers, you know, did with him because they have

706
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Speaker 3: had injuries on their line. You can't fault them for

707
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Speaker 3: what happened on you know, at center and your boy

708
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Speaker 3: Slater missing twenty twenty two. But Eckler seems like the

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Speaker 3: peace that really could be the one. I thought Barkley

710
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Speaker 3: was going to be the domino, but maybe Eckler's the

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Speaker 3: one who's sought after most in this So that's.

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Speaker 2: The curiosity, right and taking it to the fantasy realm.

713
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: We all know the PPR greatness that he brings now

714
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: between the tackles hit or miss, right. Obviously we're trying

715
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: to get other Josh Kelly and other guys mixed therein

716
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Speaker 2: as you go. But from a PPR perspective, he's the

717
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Speaker 2: guy that really does stir the drink. I mean, Barkley

718
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Speaker 2: comes with a higher price tag most likely. I mean,

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Speaker 2: look what Eckler amongst all those running backs, right, they

720
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Speaker 2: all held out and again the only guy that won

721
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Speaker 2: was Chris Jones five year seconty five million guaranteed and

722
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl win. But for the running backs and

723
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: then it was a mixed bag in terms of the performance.

724
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Speaker 2: They may have hit some level, right if you think

725
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: a thousand yards still means what it used to mean.

726
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 2: You're kidding yourself, but that's fine. It means you did

727
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: carry the ball enough to get there. But you're looking

728
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Speaker 2: at Derrick Henry. What's he got left in the tank.

729
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Speaker 2: How much of that was Tennessee offense versus what he

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Speaker 2: can do as a player.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and there's gonna be very like, there's the team

732
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Speaker 3: that needs Derrick Henry. Is the team that needs Derrick Henry.

733
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Speaker 3: Where Like maybe somebody can dabble like, oh, let's have

734
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Speaker 3: some fun with Aostin Ecklough, Let's see what he does here.

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Speaker 3: But if you're signing Derrick Henry, it means you need

736
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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 2: You're just committing to running the football.

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Speaker 3: That's why the Ravens have been like the team that

739
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Speaker 3: that's been connected because you're like, okay, well I can

740
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Speaker 3: see where that that fits. I just, you know, like

741
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Speaker 3: Barkley and Eckler, I think are going to have more options.

742
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Speaker 3: I do think that there is something left in the

743
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Speaker 3: tank with Derek Henry. Though Tennessee's offensive line was atrocious. Yeah,

744
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 3: so so there could be something there. And it's crazy

745
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Speaker 3: to think because I didn't know if there was anything

746
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Speaker 3: left in the tank. For Derrick Henry two years ago.

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Speaker 2: And I guess the last guy is is Josh Jacobs.

748
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Speaker 2: As to whether he returns to Nevada. I mean, Zamir

749
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Speaker 2: White got his new deal.

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Speaker 3: That's the tricky part, right, like, because of how he

751
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 3: also performed in absence, because it would seem like, hey,

752
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Speaker 3: let's bring everybody back. And while Jacobs performed admirably, there

753
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: was a point where we didn't think Josh McDaniels even

754
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: wanted him around, and he still was able to succeed.

755
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: And you think, oh, now, if Peerce is there, then

756
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: Jacobs is going to come back. Yeah, that's a difficult one.

757
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: I think Jacobs will be fine wherever he ends up going.

758
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: But it's also similar to the Derrick Henry. I think

759
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: there's a little more versatility obviously with Jacobs, but I

760
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: think Jacobs will produce wherever. I just if you're the Raiders,

761
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 3: you got to figure out your quarterbacks he touched on earlier,

762
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Speaker 3: and yeah, I think Zamir White has proven himself capable.

763
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Speaker 2: And then obviously the quarterback position, we talked a lot

764
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Speaker 2: about Russell Wilson. We got Captain Kirk who will dive

765
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: deeper into as the show develops, but between Kirk Cousins,

766
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Speaker 2: whatever becomes of Justin Fields. And I have to presume

767
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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield stays in Tampa after Mike Evans signing.

768
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Speaker 3: Right, Yes, has to run it back. I mean, listen,

769
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Speaker 3: they won a playoff game, and they may not have

770
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Speaker 3: beaten the Lions, you know, but it was a game

771
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Speaker 3: for a while. Shore up a couple of things. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think Baker's back Tannehill is an interesting one and

773
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Speaker 3: where that goes.

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Speaker 2: There you go. We'll we'll circle back to Ryan Tannehill

775
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: as we go, because he's the unnamed guy and all

776
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Speaker 2: of this stuff so interesting that you brought him up

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Speaker 2: running back drop everything else. He's Dan on Mike. Coming

778
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Speaker 2: up next, Jerry Judy traded essentially for a bucket of balls.

779
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Speaker 2: What's it all mean in Cleveland? Coming up next here

780
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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: It's a large bucket, Mike.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Greetings, hour two of the program here on a beautiful

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Speaker 2: appreciate you giving us a few minutes of your time.

786
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Speaker 2: With all the audio video choices you've got out there.

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Speaker 2: Four hundred plus terrestrial stations we had in Jacksonville, On

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 3: Some great cities as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm goodly. I really feel like I have a

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, as well as all the other great audio

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Speaker 2: I'm partial to the iHeart Broadway channel. When I'm just

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Speaker 2: our theater, right, I'm all about that energy.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's the old preacher thing and me on a Sunday

812
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Speaker 2: morning of I want everybody to come together where the

813
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Speaker 2: energy's going in the same place and sports. Even if

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Speaker 2: we disagree about our teams and we argue and we fight,

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Speaker 2: the energy is still towards the love of sports. So

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Speaker 2: it extends the theater, live music, all of those kinds

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Speaker 2: of things. So however you're listening, thank you for being

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Speaker 2: part of the extended family. Dan a Big Sunday, some

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Speaker 2: championships will be decided. We know on the women's side,

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Speaker 2: Big Ten, you know our history where we come from.

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Speaker 2: So everybody lining up to see Caitlin Clark seven or

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Speaker 2: eight hours ago, I'm sure getting ready for the Big

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Speaker 2: ten finale here coming up a little bit later. We've

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Speaker 2: got a couple on the men's side, automatic births that

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Speaker 2: will be earned, including the potential for a six and

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Speaker 2: ten conference squad to make their way in and they've

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Speaker 2: made the way into all the updates, so there we

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Speaker 2: have them right as we've got along withood Lancers the Lance.

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Speaker 3: So it's twenty when team just didn't fare with that

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Speaker 3: great in conference but making the you know, their way

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Speaker 3: through the bracket and if they win, will likely be

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Speaker 3: playing in the first four that you get in Dayton,

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Speaker 3: either on Tuesday or Wednesday. But still there's only one

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Speaker 3: automatic bid that's been handed out so far, and there

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Speaker 3: would be another one another one there. The funny thing

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Speaker 3: about the Big Ten Tournament first time ever that it's

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Speaker 3: in the Twin Cities. So you've got the men's coming

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Speaker 3: up next week, and obviously the women's wrapping up today.

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Speaker 3: But it's the women's tournament that sold out and the

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Speaker 3: men's tickets are still available, and that happened. That happens

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Speaker 3: in certain certain spots depending on who advances as well

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Speaker 3: later in the week. All this team got knocked out,

843
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Speaker 3: they had a huge contingency. Guess what fans are selling

844
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Speaker 3: their tickets. That is not a problem with the women's tournament.

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Speaker 3: Everybody is there to see Caitlin Clark. Whether you're a

846
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Speaker 3: team one or lost, you're likely sticking around to the

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Speaker 3: TC and going to take in today's title games.

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Speaker 2: See as long as it runs its course right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just amazing. A lot of debates, a lot of hot

850
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,919
Speaker 2: take nonsense around it. In the end, it's good for

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00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: the game as a whole, and why don't we stay

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00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: in college buckets for a moment, because every year we

853
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: get to the discussion and we've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: talk of nil and what it means and where we're

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Speaker 2: morphing conferences. Certainly on the football side we've talked about

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Speaker 2: it a lot, but from the basketball side, it's always

857
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: the all right, how do you expand your pie and

858
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: make it bigger as well? And all eyes go towards

859
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: the tournament, Yes, right, as to do we add another round?

860
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: Do we add just as many teams as one play

861
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: in it? And we'll figure out the costs and everything

862
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: as we go down the road. But you know, from

863
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: the first four, expanding that to include another four, six, eight,

864
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 2: twelve teams, whatever the case is like when we get

865
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: into these scenarios, and I think the Lancers are good

866
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: a good test subject for all of this is we'll

867
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 2: find stories. We talked about it a little bit last hour,

868
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: and how you get there doesn't quite matter because once

869
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: we start filling out brackets, once you start talking about

870
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 2: betting lines and everything for every game, it all goes

871
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: out the window. So the more games you have, it's

872
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 2: the more data points. It's more games to televise for

873
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: each of the networks. It's more time Jason and I

874
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: get to play true TV or not True TV on

875
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: our show in the evenings. That'll be back for another run.

876
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: Often imitated, never duplicated, but I say, the more I'm

877
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: opening the doors, whoever's got more money to give us,

878
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: let's go.

879
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that's you know, it's one of

880
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 3: the things that the NCAA is looking at and they

881
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: don't want. They don't want the big ten of the SCCD, like,

882
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: you know, we'll just have our own postseason tournament, you know,

883
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: down the line, when you have a big enough lead,

884
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: big big enough leagues. Excuse me. The NCAA tournament expanded

885
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 3: from sixty four to sixty five teams when the Whack

886
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: broke away, when the Mountain West broke away from the Whack.

887
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: And what that did. The reason they it expanded was

888
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 3: because they weren't willing to give up an at large

889
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: bid to accommodate an automatic bid. So if you have

890
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 3: a conference at the time the Whack, you got one

891
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: conference champions champion that automatically qualified for the tournament. Well,

892
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 3: now you had a new conference in the Mountain West,

893
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 3: and the Mountain West needs their automatic bid. Well, they

894
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: weren't willing to take that from the at large bids

895
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: that the teams on the bubble would need. So you

896
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: expanded the sixty five. You added a play in game,

897
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: as we called it, with the two sixteen seeds. That's

898
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: why it expanded to sixty five. We are now at

899
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 3: sixty eight, where we have the two games on Tuesday

900
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 3: and the two games on Wednesday. I don't like the

901
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: expanding of the tournament. I wish it was still at

902
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 3: sixty four, Mike, to be completely honest with you, I

903
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 3: think it's. Yeah, those games are nice, but I don't

904
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 3: necessarily consider them the tournament. But maybe instead of just

905
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: eliminating them, we make them more of the tournament by saying,

906
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: you know what, if the tournament bracket does expand, and

907
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: the reports are that if it did it would be

908
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: to seventy two or to seventy six teams, maybe you

909
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: have full days of basketball on that Tuesday and Wednesday.

910
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: And is that such a bad thing, especially if it

911
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: is taking the final teams that ended up making the

912
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: bracket and then just kind of funneling them into that

913
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: sixty fourteen bracket. I'm as much of a nostalgia guy

914
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: as anyone. You know that as well. I just just

915
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 3: like college football, I think we have to realize what

916
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: is on the horizon, and if we understand what is

917
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: on the horizon, then let's make it better for us.

918
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 3: So if you were to expand to seventy two, and

919
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 3: you were to expand to seventy six, it's not as

920
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: big of a deal. And the reason why it won't

921
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: ruin your bracket that you make and I realize this,

922
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: we always want the bracket to fit on this size

923
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: sheet of.

924
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: Paper that you can't. It was a good sound effect.

925
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was trying to you said you did the description,

926
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: and I wanted everybody to know what I was talking about.

927
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 3: The other part of it is is how do we

928
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: fill in brackets now? Really on a computer? Right? You know?

929
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 3: You still print one out though I still I do.

930
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: I print one out and I fill it out as well.

931
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 3: But a majority of the people who are playing this contest,

932
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 3: whether you sign up for the Fox Sports Radio Bracket

933
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: Challenge which we have or any other you're doing it

934
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: via the computer. And so that's where it's not going

935
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: to Maybe you have to have your picks in by Wednesday.

936
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 3: Maybe you have, you know, depending on how they're gonna

937
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 3: break it down or what's gonna happen. It's I don't

938
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 3: want it to expand either, but if it's inevitable, let's

939
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 3: put our arms around it and figure out a way

940
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: where it can work for us.

941
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: But it's like all of these changes, like no sport

942
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: is standing still, right. Baseball had a lot of rule

943
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: changes the last couple of years that some that are good,

944
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: some are bad. But well, we're gonna put a pin

945
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: in this conversation for now. He's Dad on Mike. Let's

946
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: go over to the update desk. We got our guy,

947
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: Isaac loewen Kron. He's got some breaking news. I wait

948
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: with David Bread.

949
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Breaking news from Fox Sports.

950
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 6: ESPN has just reported that the New England Patriots are

951
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 6: finalizing a trade to send quarterback Mac Jones to the

952
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars. ESPN goes on to report that the two

953
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 6: sides were discussing a sixth round draft pick as compensation. Ironically,

954
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 6: Mac Jones just happened to be born in Jacksonville.

955
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: Back to you, there you go, all our fans and

956
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: listeners there in Jacksonville. You've got a new quarterback coming

957
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: to down Thanks Eilo. There you go, Dan, sixth round pick,

958
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, a guy that you know, we started to

959
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: talk about with a little bit of a handwringing, not

960
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: just because of the collapse of the team overall, but

961
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 2: his individual play not quite to where you expected him

962
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: to be getting to. But here's a very low cost

963
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: option as a backup and seeing if you can and

964
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: maybe find what may him a first round pick and

965
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: a success as a rookie.

966
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 3: And I and I look at it, I'll look at it.

967
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: From the Patriots way of things, this is a definite

968
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 3: move to show that they have decided on their direction.

969
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 3: That direction we believe would be to take a quarterback

970
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 3: with the top three. But we've seen Mox where they've

971
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 3: taken Marvin Harrison junior, best you know player non quarterback

972
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 3: that we think is on the board. We've seen that

973
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: scenario take place. So this is a definitive, you know,

974
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 3: line drawn in the sand Gerrod Mayo era, the Elliott

975
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 3: Wolf era, all of that is underway in New England

976
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 3: because now you either draft quarterback or those Russell Wilson

977
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: have a visit set for New England, like there's you know,

978
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: there's that scenario as.

979
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 2: Well, were you or maybe go get Justin Fields? Yes

980
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: or yes, go and make a move. And that's it's

981
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,720
Speaker 2: funny because Girod Mayo in a lot of these moves,

982
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 2: he's very quick at the podium to tell you this

983
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: is not to take away anything that Bill Belichick. Bill

984
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 2: Tair's like, no, no, you're clearly veering in a very

985
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: different direction as a franchise in the post Bill Belichick era.

986
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: And that's okay. You don't have to apologize to Bill.

987
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: Bill's gone. Bill's record ended with that final loss to

988
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: the Jets, as Ian smiles because they actually got one

989
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: over on Bill Belichick. And to end the run right

990
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 2: where you basically saw just his eyes underneath the big

991
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: hood in whatever the ski mask and everything. But yeah,

992
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 2: definitive direction there. It's a curiosity of you know, what's

993
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 2: the right fit in terms of a veteran To your point,

994
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: I have seen Marvin Harrison in most mocks, seems to

995
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: be that choice. And then with the compensation for some

996
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: of these other guys, whether it's bringing Wilson in on

997
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: a minimal veterans deal or we know the trademarket for

998
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: Justin Field hold his crater. I don't think it was

999
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: ever that robust. And I've been saying that all along.

1000
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 2: There's too many quarterbacks out in the in the wash

1001
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 2: between the draft and these other veterans, Is it right?

1002
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, he's he's still twenty four,

1003
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: he's as young as most of these guys that are

1004
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: about to get drafted.

1005
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: Sure, and I know we're gonna we're gonna dive into

1006
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: it later. But the Patriots have made a decision before

1007
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: the Bears have've even made theirs about what direction it's

1008
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: going to go, Which is which is interesting? And maybe

1009
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: you know some of that is in play too. I'm

1010
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: not sure it is for Chicago. But here New England

1011
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 3: is saying and talking about the the Jerry Judy trade.

1012
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 3: For what has happened, this is just a sixth round pick.

1013
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: You know, there's not a lot of value, not that

1014
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 3: there would expected to be, but it's just a clear

1015
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: decision that whatever whatever their path is, whether it be

1016
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: VA free agency, whether it be trade, whether it be

1017
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 3: drafting a quarterback, they've made that decision by saying goodbye

1018
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:00,479
Speaker 3: to Mac Jones.

1019
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 2: I like the decisiveness right, because we do a lot

1020
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 2: of handwringing of some cost, especially when it comes to

1021
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 2: first round quarterbacks, of well, can we truly give up

1022
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: h Right, we were talking about Kenny Pickett a little bit

1023
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 2: earlier and with the Steelers, haven't you seen enough?

1024
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

1025
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 2: After two years and maybe the clock is unfair and

1026
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: it goes back to a time when you and I

1027
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 2: were younger, and again nostalgia like we were talking about

1028
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: with the brackets to where quarterbacks didn't have to go

1029
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: in game one and set the world on fire. But

1030
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: that's the world we live in now.

1031
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right, and I don't listen. I don't

1032
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 3: think that. I don't think Mac Jones had the greatest

1033
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 3: situation in New England, but he does bear some responsibility,

1034
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: you know in terms of you know, you had Bill

1035
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 3: O'Brien there most recently, but you know they were a

1036
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: bit of a mess and who was doing what two

1037
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 3: years ago? They're just yeah, it wasn't great, which is

1038
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: crazy to think of a Bill Belichick team and having

1039
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 3: that happen. But that's where we are and it's probably

1040
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 3: best for Mac Jones to just go somewhere and get

1041
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 3: a fresh start and try to rejuvenize. Like we talk

1042
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: about we talk about Mitchell Trubisky, and I know that

1043
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: you know he's back to the Bills. He's back to

1044
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 3: the Bills. But it's such a name that I bring

1045
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 3: up so often because Mitchell Trubisky, all he had to

1046
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: do and he wasn't atrocious in Chicago. He wasn't like bad,

1047
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: bad bad in Chicago. But all he had to do

1048
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 3: was just put on a Bill's uniform. And people are like, hey,

1049
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 3: spent that year with Buffalo, Like he got out of

1050
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 3: the he got out of the uh, the spotlight went

1051
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: to a team, and people just assumed that he was

1052
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: good again. Right, That's why Pittsburgh brought him in when

1053
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: he did nothing. He did nothing in Buffalo. He just

1054
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 3: sat behind Josh Allen and was able to be coached

1055
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: by a coaching staff that people felt that helped his

1056
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 3: stock as a quarterback. Maybe that's what mac Jones needs.

1057
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 3: Maybe Mac Jones just needs to get out of New England,

1058
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 3: go learn under Doug Peterson for a year and even

1059
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: if he does, it doesn't Mike and at least rejuvenize

1060
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 3: rejuvenates his image as a quarterback for twenty twenty five

1061
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 3: if you would want to, or you know, if Jacksonvill

1062
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 3: wants to move on or make some sort of deal.

1063
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: But you just kind of needed to get out of

1064
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: New England because I don't think that was a great

1065
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: spot even with the new regime, to be like, oh,

1066
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 3: let's see what he has. It's probably better for mac

1067
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Jones to get the fresh start. And now New England

1068
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 3: charts their course. Whichever way it's going to be, we

1069
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Speaker 3: just know it won't be with mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: Thinking about Matt Patricia running offenses and bringing back Bill O'Brien,

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00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,439
Speaker 2: never really investing well, they spent a lot of money,

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Speaker 2: but the day invest well in the wide receiver position. No, no,

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Speaker 2: they don't. And now they've they've shown their hand. I mean,

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Speaker 2: whether Kendrick Bourne comes back, he can't stay healthy. Hunter

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00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: Henry's there for another three years. Great red zone guy.

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Speaker 2: Now you just need the quarterback to actually create some

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Speaker 2: red zone opportunities.

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Speaker 3: I think New England over these next three days that

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Speaker 3: we are going to be very very interesting to watch

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Speaker 3: because then we'll also Mike, if they bring in a

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Speaker 3: veteran quarterback, it doesn't preclude them from drafting a quarterback

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Speaker 3: at number three sure, but it does keep number three

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Speaker 3: in play for a team that may want to trade up.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting. This first few picks could

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Speaker 2: all be on in the marketplace, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: He's Dan Buyer on Mike Carmon here Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio from the tirerac dot Com studios. And

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Speaker 2: coming up next, we will turn our attention back to

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Speaker 2: Cleveland and the AFC North. We've got one trade on

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Speaker 2: the books. The other one that was consummated a couple

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Speaker 2: of days ago, a little more compensation but bigger ramifications.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps that's coming up next as we continue here on

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Speaker 2: a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Byron Fox where you find him on Twitter. Find me

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Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome and Dan, we had the breaking

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Speaker 2: news from Isaac Lowencrown mac Jones heading down to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what that does for my mac Jones

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00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: rookie cards that are sitting in the giant pile of

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00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm going through right now, but we'll see

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Speaker 2: what the market does. Goes to a clear backup situation

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Speaker 2: to start, so that can't be good.

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Speaker 3: But when we.

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Speaker 2: Look at the rest of the football world, Jerry Judy

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00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: traded earlier this week fifth and sixth round picks as

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00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 2: he heads to Cleveland. A lot of speculation to what

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00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: it means for Amari Cooper's future as he has one

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00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: more year left on his deal and for Jerry Judy himself.

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: You saw Mark Schlareth, our teammate on the larger Fox

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Speaker 2: World had his audios message was not the the best,

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Speaker 2: except to say I'm glad you're gone out of deed. Yeah,

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00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 2: I'll keep it simple. You know, you can go find

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Speaker 2: Schlaret's comments in social socials wherever you get your fine

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Speaker 2: clicks done. But for Jerry Judy, a lot of promise,

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Speaker 2: a lot of inconsistency. How much of that is quarterback based,

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Speaker 2: How much is that a system based? How much of

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00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: that is the guy was just overdrafted. All of it

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00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: plays together, drops and inconsistency, never quite achieving a level

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Speaker 2: of consistency. We saw the spectacular on occasion, but not

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Speaker 2: the guy that they had gone and made a big

1131
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 2: bet on a few years ago. And now he goes

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00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: to Cleveland. Sean Watson obviously the three hundred million dollar

1133
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 2: question mark at quarterback. He saw Joe Flacco come off

1134
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 2: the couch and do some amazing things, and the way

1135
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: they cobbled things together, Barry and Company in the front

1136
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: office and Stefanski obviously on the sideline, you get Nick

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00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 2: Chubb back at whatever capacity. Nick Chubb is right. So

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00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: now it's you know, can you harness the best out

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Speaker 2: of Jerry Judy and for a fifth and sixth round

1140
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Speaker 2: bet that's that's nothing.

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Speaker 3: Sure, And and it seems that maybe the opportunity in

1142
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 3: Cleveland will be one that is better than Denver. There

1143
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 3: didn't seem to be in realizing what Sean Payton's offense

1144
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 3: is and just taking what we've seen from the from

1145
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 3: the past, like the days of Robert Meacham and Deverie Henderson.

1146
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: Look at drinking down the field, you know, with the

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00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: same because everybody had their role. Marcus Colston wasn't that guy,

1148
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 3: but there were other guys with that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much that fit with you know, what Denver was doing.

1150
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's more opportunities for big plays with the Cleveland Browns,

1151
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 3: and I think Jerry Judy can actually make them, whether

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01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 3: he was part of the problem in Denver, as Mark

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01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 3: Slurth you know, was alluding to, We'll see I like

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Speaker 3: the Browns in terms of going for it. You're gonna

1155
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Speaker 3: have to figure out a way to score against the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens. Why not give to Shaun Watson or whoever

1157
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Speaker 3: the quarterback? Is that ample opportunity. What I do find

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Speaker 3: interesting is your point about Chubb, about Nick Chubb and

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Speaker 3: his health from from the knee injury. But if you

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Speaker 3: do try to say, like, all right, we want to

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Speaker 3: put a few more points on the board, we want

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Speaker 3: to do this, what does that do for your defense,

1163
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Speaker 3: which at times was off the charts good with the

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns this past season, so you're still like, I

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Speaker 3: think there, I think their identity still needs to be defense, Mike,

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Speaker 3: but you add another playmaker. Maybe it just takes some

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Speaker 3: of the pressure off of the off you know, off

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Speaker 3: of the offense. They still have to work in concert

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Speaker 3: a little bit, still the defensive team, but I like

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Speaker 3: the move for Cleveland. I think there'll be more opportunities

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Speaker 3: for him to make the plays that that he can

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Speaker 3: make and wants to make than he did in Denver.

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Speaker 2: And while I reference the Schlareth comments again you can

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Speaker 2: find those on social media. We'll never forget Steve Smith

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Speaker 2: and his evaluation of Jerry Judy go back into the studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm good. I like the you know, the apology, but

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Speaker 2: let me circle back to this and tell you what

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Speaker 2: I really think.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he immediately put out in the socials

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Speaker 2: of hey, let's let's go dog pound and everything else.

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Speaker 2: But for for Steve Smith, and we've heard this number

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Speaker 2: of times, I think more nuanced to your point, Dan,

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01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: is the offense that you're running as well, and the

1185
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Speaker 2: expectation right and the consistency of targets, opportunities, quality targets

1186
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Speaker 2: and our opportunity, and certainly for Russell Wilson this last year.

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Speaker 2: We alluded to it a little bit earlier, a lot

1188
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Speaker 2: of questions of did he miss routes? Now? Was Judy

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Speaker 2: going to actually catch the ball? That's the other big

1190
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Speaker 2: running joke coming out of Denver's like, well, we'll find

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Speaker 2: a guy that actually catches the ball when it hits

1192
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Speaker 2: his hands. And look, drop rates were pretty high across

1193
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Speaker 2: the league last year, Judy was not a standout in

1194
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Speaker 2: that category. We looked the Super Bowl champion as a team,

1195
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Speaker 2: they had forty four drops on the year. But for

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy and what his primary role was, Yeah, it's

1197
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Speaker 2: not the offense that you run. You mentioned Saints and

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Speaker 2: those legends, the third receivers. You got Devrey Henderson into

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Speaker 2: the show and Robert Beacham, good for you, but like

1200
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Speaker 2: you're not taking those deep shots. So certainly Drew Brees

1201
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: physically couldn't down the stretch and Russell Wilson didn't have

1202
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Speaker 2: the same level of elusiveness and so he wasn't looking

1203
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 2: for the shot downfield. It was a lot of at

1204
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage within five yards right than the

1205
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 2: advanced stats show it all and you could show his

1206
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 2: shot shirt. That was exactly what was going on. Not

1207
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Speaker 2: a lot of shots downfield to Judy.

1208
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Speaker 3: Two, as you mentioned, a fifth and a sixth round pick,

1209
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Speaker 3: which it doesn't. It's not a lot. However, in free agency,

1210
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Speaker 3: what we've seen and what is excuse me, in the

1211
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Speaker 3: NFL draft and in what we have in the NFL draft,

1212
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 3: we expect this draft to be full of receivers. So

1213
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Speaker 3: the Browns saying like, hey, we'll take Jerry Judy and

1214
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Speaker 3: then we'll figure about the other stuff and maybe we're

1215
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Speaker 3: not going to use a draft pick on a wide receiver. Different,

1216
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Speaker 3: different course of action, because there are teams that figure

1217
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Speaker 3: to load up on wide receivers or at least try

1218
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Speaker 3: to fill gaps from that position. Considering how deep the

1219
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Speaker 3: draft is, the Browns found it worthy enough to give

1220
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Speaker 3: up draft picks for the wide receiver, who I think

1221
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Speaker 3: still has a lot in the tank. Whether Steve Smith

1222
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Speaker 3: is correcting, I think Steve Smith apologized after, not immediately after,

1223
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Speaker 3: but later on where they did clear the air a

1224
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Speaker 3: little bit. I like the Brons move it is they

1225
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 3: are so intriguing to me for twenty twenty four because

1226
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Speaker 3: of the Flacco success because of what they did in

1227
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 3: making their push to the playoffs. Flaco did turn the

1228
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Speaker 3: ball over some was an issue, but that was expected.

1229
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Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean, and that's in twenty twenty three,

1230
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. That's the you can't do it right.

1231
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Speaker 2: That was the Terry Bradshaw whatever else back in the day.

1232
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: Now it's like we celebrate him because he came off

1233
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 2: the couch, but we kept raising our hands going, he's

1234
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 2: throwing a lot of picks. These aren't would it could

1235
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Speaker 2: have should us because people did that to brock Purty

1236
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Speaker 2: to death. Oh he had three balls that should have

1237
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: been picked. Well they weren't, and they lived to see

1238
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 2: another play, another down. For Joe Flacco, they were picks,

1239
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 2: they were turnovers. Those count just a little bit more.

1240
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Speaker 3: And for how good that defense is, that's the last

1241
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 3: thing that you can do. And obviously it's gonna be

1242
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson's job anyway, but you hope Watson doesn't. Isn't

1243
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 3: susceptible for even for our great flackaways is you don't

1244
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 3: turn the ball over, get the ball in your playmaker's

1245
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: hands and then let the defense take care of the rest.

1246
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know what the running game of Nick

1247
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 3: Chubb's role is I hope, but I just I don't

1248
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: think that we can for how that injury was Mike.

1249
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 3: I just don't know, like how we could sit there

1250
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: and say, Okay, we're gonna count on that.

1251
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 2: Oh no. So yeah, they've got five picks remaining in

1252
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: the draft after making the trade, a second, a third,

1253
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 2: to fifth, sixth, and a seventh.

1254
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: And the first going to Houston for the Watson trade.

1255
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gift that keeps on giving.

1256
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 3: Let's allowed Houston to give up their first round pick

1257
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 3: to trade up and get Will Anderson because there's going

1258
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 3: to the Arizona Cardinals. It's just so many domino effects.

1259
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 3: I like the I like the deal. I like, you know,

1260
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 3: there's it's an arms race in the AFC. You still

1261
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: are gonna have to outscore teams. You're gonna have to

1262
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: put some points on the board.

1263
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1264
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 3: I like to move by the Browns.

1265
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,960
Speaker 2: Well, and in the end, you've already invested so much

1266
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: you're pot committed on Deshaun Watson, Yes, at this point,

1267
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: so why not load up with every possible weapon you can?

1268
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 3: Yep?

1269
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: Right, I mean that's really all it comes down to.

1270
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 2: And we do the same thing with the NBA. Looking

1271
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 2: at all, right, look at what the Western Conference is

1272
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: and how potentially loaded it is. But you know, all

1273
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: the injuries are now creating an issue as we go.

1274
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 2: But like the Eastern Conference, like we've got two or

1275
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: three teams at the top. You got Doc Rivers in

1276
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 2: the Bucks, your Bucks, and you got the Celtics, and

1277
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 2: then there's a gap right in the AFC and NFC.

1278
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: It's the apples and oranges at least in terms of

1279
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: top to bottom strength, at least on paper.

1280
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 3: And if it Marii Cooper sticks around, great, If he doesn't,

1281
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 3: at least you've got him for this past year. David

1282
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 3: Djoku is magnificent, you know. So there's there's guys you

1283
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 3: can throw the football too.

1284
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: There'll be opportunities, all right, More on Deshaun Watson as

1285
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 2: we get back into I watch your flex as we

1286
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 2: get into the spring and drafts.

1287
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 5: Uh.

1288
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,959
Speaker 2: Look now it's hard to turn it over to our guy.

1289
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: It's Isaac lowan crowd. He's already given us some breaking

1290
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: news today. He's already told us about a cross country

1291
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 2: skiing event that went to hell. What's he got for

1292
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 2: an encore?

1293
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 4: Had?

1294
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: Isaac lowan Crow where you find him on Twitter? I Low,

1295
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: what do you got?

1296
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 6: We're just trying to keep up with the Jones is

1297
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 6: because multiple outlets reported a short time ago that the

1298
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 6: New England Patriots are trading quarterback Matt Jones or the

1299
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 6: Jacksonville Jaguars for a six round draft pick. While late

1300
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 6: Saturday night, Kansas City Chief star defensive tackle Chris Jones

1301
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 6: agreed to a new five year deal that includes ninety

1302
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 6: five million dollars in guaranteed money. Jones had been said

1303
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 6: to become an unrestricted free agent on Monday in non

1304
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 6: Jones news.

1305
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: In the NBA on.

1306
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 6: Saturday night, the Boston Celtics what at Phoenix one seventeen

1307
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 6: to what oh seven, despite forty five from Kevin Durant.

1308
01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 6: Celtics have the best record of the NBA at forty

1309
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:56,920
Speaker 6: nine and fourteen. Denver's Jamal Murray scored thirty seven and

1310
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 6: a one forty two to one twenty one victory at Utah, Nver,

1311
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 6: half a game behind first place Oklahoma City. In the

1312
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 6: Western Conference college hoops coming up at the top of

1313
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 6: the hour, Big South Tournament championship game between Longwood and

1314
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 6: unc Ashville. In women's basketball, at the top of the

1315
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 6: hour the Big Ten Tournament championship game between number three

1316
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 6: Iowa and Nebraska. Finally, a high school basketball player in

1317
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 6: Oregon had to miss the state tournament's Division six to

1318
01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:31,520
Speaker 6: a third place game due to injury after being accidentally

1319
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 6: kicked in the head by one of his own team's

1320
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 6: cheerleaders who was performing a reverse handspring during player introductions.

1321
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 6: Despite the fact that the player had to miss the game,

1322
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 6: his team still won by thirty points. Sis boom Ba

1323
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 6: back to you.

1324
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: I think they had to ban cheerleaders from all pregame

1325
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 2: festivities as a result of his stay at fire his

1326
01:08:58,360 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 2: cannock stand.

1327
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 3: I feel bad for the cheerleader. She's just out there

1328
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 3: doing her thing.

1329
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 2: That guy got checked up. They would have had a

1330
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 2: segment on that years ago.

1331
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 3: There's a little silver lining that it wasn't the championship game,

1332
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 3: but still, you want to be there for your team hack.

1333
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: You just went through warm ups, right, Yeah, you're ready

1334
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 3: to play, and that stinks that that happened. But I

1335
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 3: feel awful for both. I just feel bad.

1336
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 2: Watched that video probably fifty times. Thanks at Isaac GLOWINCROWND.

1337
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 2: It was it was on the list of many topics,

1338
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: because we did have the Philipowski tripping incident, which goes

1339
01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: back to court storming. And now you've got all sorts

1340
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 2: of activity, and you know you're trying to get the

1341
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: fans riled up. You're in a confined space. Said, oh,

1342
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 2: I do some of those backflips.

1343
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, And for those that didn't see it, it's

1344
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 3: the tunnel. She was a part of the tunnel that

1345
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 3: the players run out from the bench, you like when

1346
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 3: they announce your name, you know, starting at guard Mike Harmon,

1347
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 3: and he runs out and he got to the end

1348
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 3: of the and then was circling back towards the scores table,

1349
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 3: maybe to shake the ref's hand or the opposing coach

1350
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 3: or where his teammates were. And that's when the girl

1351
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 3: did the backflip and then ended up kicking him on

1352
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 3: the way. Yeah. I feel really she had to feel awful.

1353
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: Yes, Now, I mean we've seen those purposefully, you know,

1354
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 2: Tiffany Stratton and some other WWE superstars. This, however, not

1355
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: so much. Fortunately they had a burial.

1356
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 3: You mean, she didn't turn heel. She didn't like have

1357
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 3: the opposing team's cheerleader.

1358
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 2: No, that would have been great.

1359
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: Right.

1360
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, she goes and a full handspring,

1361
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 2: just keep going backwards, and then she ends up taking

1362
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 2: out an opponent.

1363
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 3: She's not a part of the bloodline. No, you'd be

1364
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 3: surprised at a little bit of wrestling that I know.

1365
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's kind of a big deal leading

1366
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: into Wrestleman in Philadelphia. Yeah, it's certainly. I'm fully first

1367
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:58,840
Speaker 2: back in.

1368
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: Chris Purfett acknowledge me. How's that, Mike? That was good.

1369
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 2: I was well delivered. He has no idea what you know?

1370
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. It's all wrestling parlance at this point.

1371
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: You got Roan Reigns in a couple of years ago.

1372
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: I was at WrestleMania and they were trying to boo

1373
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 2: him out of there. They hated him, and now he's

1374
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 2: become one of the biggest things going and I'm disputed

1375
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 2: champion here for a long time. I mean, we could

1376
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: do a wrestling segment at the end of the show.

1377
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 3: If you want.

1378
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 2: All of the Rocks promos, you have it. Hey, coming

1379
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: up next, we dive into one of the biggest movers

1380
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: and shakers in the NBA. Yeah, that's right. You know

1381
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: what time it is? He's Dad. I'm Mike. This is

1382
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, that's right.

1383
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: We got some wrestling talk in now. We got Liverpool

1384
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 2: and Man City on the pitch, a little early English

1385
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 2: Premier League. So the games have started, Mike Harmon, Dan

1386
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 2: Byer with you here Fox Sports Sunday. And that means

1387
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: the long stick microphone is out as well, because we

1388
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: got another game to play.

1389
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 3: Dan, Mike, Let's get the Fox Family together and play

1390
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 3: the Feud. Welcome in on a Sunday morning. The Fox

1391
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 3: Family Today, made up of Mike, Carmen, Chris Purfett, Ian,

1392
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 3: Roddy and Isaac Lohenkron Top seven answers on the board.

1393
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 3: By the way, in telling Ian we're playing the Feud today,

1394
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: you know already said what's that? It's his favorite game show?

1395
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 3: Is that right? So how excited? Away? Wait?

1396
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: Which iteration of it? Though?

1397
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 3: I would have to say the current I don't think

1398
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 3: he's the Richard Dawson the era. Well, Steve Harvey, yes,

1399
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 3: there it is.

1400
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 2: It works a little too blue for me. I had

1401
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 2: to explain some things to my daughters through the years

1402
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: watching The Family Feud.

1403
01:12:56,040 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 3: All right, Ian Top seven answers on the board. You

1404
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 3: ready for this. I try to tie it into like

1405
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 3: current events, and I think we can get a perfect

1406
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 3: game on this one. I want to know the seven

1407
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: teams that Patrick Beverley has played for in his NBA career.

1408
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 3: The seven teams veteran guard Patrick Beverly has played for

1409
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 3: in his NBA career. Three strikes are available. There is

1410
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 3: a pass. If you don't know an answer, you can

1411
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 3: use a pass, but at any point it can be

1412
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: eliminated from the show, Mike Carmen to we start with you.

1413
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: I'll just go with your Milwaukee Bucks, all right.

1414
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 3: There may be a reason why I was so excited

1415
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 3: about Patrick Beverley. Show me Patrick Beverly in the Milwaukee Bucks. Yes,

1416
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: there it is. It's I'm a little rusty on this. Yes,

1417
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 3: show me the Milwaukee Bucks. There it is the seventh

1418
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 3: and final team that he's played for. Could always change

1419
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 3: in the future, but right now it is number seven.

1420
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 3: Over to Chris Purfett.

1421
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, oh Man, seventy six.

1422
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 3: Ers, the seventy six ers. Think there was a stint

1423
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia. Show me the Philadelphia seventy six ers. Yeah,

1424
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 3: there they are. By the way pass is gone. I've

1425
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 3: already taken the pass out of play because I think

1426
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 3: we could do this. I think we could get this

1427
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 3: perfect game. Ian Roddy, over to you the seven teams

1428
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverly has played for. Name one of them. Well,

1429
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 3: I remember him crying when they beat his former Clippers

1430
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:22,919
Speaker 3: in a playoff series. So I'll go with the Clippers,

1431
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 3: all right, Show me the LA Clippers. There they are,

1432
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 3: the Clippers, the second team that Patrick Beverly played for

1433
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:33,440
Speaker 3: in his career. Over to the news desk and Isaac Lohenkross.

1434
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 6: I'm going to go with the Los Angeles Liqueurs, ah,

1435
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,759
Speaker 6: the other team in LA is they're affectionately known just kidding.

1436
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 3: Show me the Lakers, all right? Four for four, perfect

1437
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 3: first round. Now there's three teams left. We're looking for

1438
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: these seven teams that Patrick Beverly has played for in

1439
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 3: his NBA career. Over to Mike Harmon, No strikes so far.

1440
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,759
Speaker 2: See, I'm not I just know he's well traveled. Yes,

1441
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 2: and when he pops up on the radar, I want

1442
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: to picture him in a te Wolves uniform. But that

1443
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: doesn't seem right. Is that gonna be your give an answer?

1444
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 3: Show me the Timberwolves. There he was when he beat

1445
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 3: the Clippers. Yeah, oh, he loved that one. All right,

1446
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 3: Over to Chris Purfett. All right, just to be clear,

1447
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 3: we're the seven teams at Patrick Patt. Let's get a

1448
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 3: perfect time for a reset. Seven teams of Patrick here.

1449
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 3: There's not like some European team or something he did

1450
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 3: play over He did play overseas early in the SPA,

1451
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 3: but that does not count the names that we do

1452
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 3: have on the board. If you're just tuning in Clippers, Timberwolves,

1453
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 3: seventy six Ers, Lakers, and Bucks. So there are two

1454
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 3: teams that Patrick Beverley has played for that are not

1455
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 3: on this list.

1456
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 4: I think the first team he played, yes, it was

1457
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 4: the first team he played for then in the NBA,

1458
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 4: the Houston Rockets.

1459
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 3: Show me the Houston Rockets. There they are, all right,

1460
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 3: six for six. We are doing very well here, all right,

1461
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 3: Ian Roddy for the perfect game. I mean, I mean

1462
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: the one team. Don't worry. There's twenty three Rockets.

1463
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 2: Is where I was gonna go, but Chris just sniped that.

1464
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: More still available for you to pick. I'll go.

1465
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

1466
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 3: I want to say he played for the Suns shortly

1467
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 3: the Suns. A lot of people have played for the Suns.

1468
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: It's is true.

1469
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 3: Is it the Phoenix Suns? It is not Sons. Off

1470
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 3: of the list. Over to Isaac lohen Kron, looking for

1471
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 3: the teams that Patrick Beverly has played for in his

1472
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 3: NBA career. There's been seven. We've got six.

1473
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 6: I'm gonna guess the Brooklyn Nets.

1474
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Nets, another team that has had a lot of players.

1475
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 3: Is it the Brooklyn Nets? No, it is not. Over

1476
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 3: to Mike Harmon, back against the Wall. This is like,

1477
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 3: this is like George against the Calves Game five?

1478
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Can I be Scottie Pippenen No, just kidding, different series

1479
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 2: quite out.

1480
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess Raptors, the Toronto Raptors.

1481
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 2: And I don't know why.

1482
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that I think I know why.

1483
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: I think I know why. All right, for the win?

1484
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 3: Is it the Toronto Raptors. It is not the Toronto Raptors.

1485
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: We had six in a row, and they had SIGs.

1486
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: He played for the Rockets, the Clippers, the Timberwolves, the Sixers,

1487
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 3: the Lakers, and then went on to play for the

1488
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 3: Chicago Bulls.

1489
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: Wow, your hometown.

1490
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's how memorable. The stint was It was, actually,

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01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 3: but he was only there for twenty two games. That's

1492
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: the tricky part about it. Yes, so Lakers, Bulls, then Sixers,

1493
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 3: then Bucks because he was traded by the Sixers to

1494
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 3: the Bucks. It was a very very short stint in Chicago,

1495
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: so I don't remember it completely. Forgot about it as well.

1496
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 3: And when I was doing some research, I just looked

1497
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,719
Speaker 3: at all the jerseys and I'm like, wait a second,

1498
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 3: where was that jersey? And that's why I thought the

1499
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: Raptors because there was red, you know, the red and

1500
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 3: the black. I'm thinking, all right, that's probably why.

1501
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 2: But I fire, I can't work at home now. O.

1502
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't have gotten it either, So that's there.

1503
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,520
Speaker 3: It is Patrick Beverley seventeen.

1504
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: Six and four in the last ten. Is he the

1505
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,760
Speaker 2: defensive stopper they need to make funs.

1506
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 3: You should have been on the court to stop D'Angelo

1507
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:30,960
Speaker 3: Russell on Friday Night.

1508
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: But I don't think anything other than an act of God.

1509
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: That's shopping fair enough. He's damn Bayram, Mike Carmen, this

1510
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday. Thanks to Chris Ehan and Isaac

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01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: I failed once again. Coming up, we got one more

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01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:50,440
Speaker 2: hour to go, we get back into the NFL. Justin fields.

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01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: Where should he go? Is he a bear? When it's

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01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 2: all done?

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1527
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1528
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1529
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1531
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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm happy to be with you. We doing this,

1532
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 3: or I want your flags, or I think we're even

1533
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,879
Speaker 3: teaming up. Later on you know at some point as well.

1534
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 2: So I know Friday with you and I'll be in

1535
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: for Doug. Yes, so we'll have breakdown of whatever's going

1536
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: on with March madness. As we get into the conference tournaments.

1537
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 3: That will be yeah, big ten quarters will be going

1538
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 3: on on at that point. Yeah, it'll be find sec quarters.

1539
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: More boo booy celebrations. We've got Liverpool and man City

1540
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 2: going early on. We've got a lot of college basketball

1541
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,160
Speaker 2: later on today, some NBA Tilts. Of course, spring training

1542
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 2: is underway in earnest. I think there are other things

1543
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 2: happening than the Dodgers in Major League Baseball, but you'd

1544
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to know about it. And given the

1545
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: coverage of what they've got going.

1546
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, next week, right, we're like a week and next

1547
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 3: week yeah, because they're in Korea, so they'll be starting

1548
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 3: the two games. So crazy, it's gone by so quick.

1549
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean Arnold Palmer Invitational and Golf will have my

1550
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: eye on on that and the Masters.

1551
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 2: Well, you were noting a list of the number of

1552
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 2: players that yeah.

1553
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 3: The DP world who are at the list of like

1554
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 3: players who had aces, and I thought that it would just

1555
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: I think it was so far for this season, but

1556
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,599
Speaker 3: there are like fifteen names on it, like man, that's

1557
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,719
Speaker 3: I And it was just it was just shocking to see.

1558
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: But maybe it was correct. Maybe I read the graphic wrong,

1559
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 3: but they were showing on one of them. Maybe it

1560
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 3: was all time on that hole. But anyway, there were

1561
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 3: a bunch of names and and yeah, the the Ace

1562
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: which is still still not in my in my collection,

1563
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,799
Speaker 3: not there, Hole in one I am Hole in one lists.

1564
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: Still a lot of time left.

1565
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 3: West continues, got to keep the quest up.

1566
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 2: Now. I saw this on Bleacher Report and obviously made

1567
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: up odds, but I thought this was kind of fun.

1568
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: Since we're in the this vein, right, you bring up

1569
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: the Masters, you bring up all of the pageantry and

1570
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: pomp and circumstances. We have a big events, right the

1571
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred. You're talking about the Masters, whether it's

1572
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 2: Moving Day or the final round in the celebration there.

1573
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 2: They put up the best sports day of the year

1574
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 2: and created some odds for this. Okay, So the favorite

1575
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: Super Bowl Sunday at minus three hundred, first day of

1576
01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: March Madness, the second Tomy Thursday, yeah, the day after

1577
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 2: the second Thanksgiving plus five hundred, Christmas Day plus seven

1578
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 2: fifty since now you have multiple NFL and multiple NBA

1579
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: New Year's College Football Playoff, Master's Final Day, Saturday, Thanksgiving weekend,

1580
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: a lot of college football yes, Opening Day for Major

1581
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: League Baseball, which is really like two weeks, so that

1582
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:44,639
Speaker 2: really does And then you know, to kind of owe

1583
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 2: to me and my brothers and such, the Kentucky Derby Day.

1584
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 3: Oh that's great, So I'm glad that it made the list.

1585
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 3: This is what is so shocking about that list, though, Mike,

1586
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 3: is there was a time where the college basketball National

1587
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: Championship Game and Opening Day with the same day because

1588
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 3: they were Mondays, and you would have Major League Baseball

1589
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 3: having Opening Day, and like you think about it, like

1590
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: they have two significant events on that day like Daytona

1591
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: and now the NBA All Star Game end up falling

1592
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 3: on the same day, you know as well, like a

1593
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 3: big sports day, but like you couldn't get any bigger

1594
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 3: than the National Championship and Opening Day. But now with

1595
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: Opening Day starting on a Thursday, and your point, it's

1596
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: varied all over the map, like that has changed. That

1597
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: would have been that would have been number one for

1598
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 3: me because you would have two like obviously we love

1599
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 3: football and It's why I always say that this is

1600
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 3: my favorite time of the year. It isn't the fall

1601
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 3: because it's just all football. Like I'm not I'm not

1602
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 3: diving into the pennant races. This has got so many

1603
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 3: It's Opening Day, it's March Madness, it's the stretch run

1604
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 3: of the NBA, it's the Masters, like, that's that's what

1605
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 3: all appeals to me. But yeah, gosh, and I would

1606
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 3: have thought New Year's Day, what decade ago, would have

1607
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 3: been much higher on that list. Man, college football, what

1608
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 3: have you done?

1609
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: But that's just it. It's a completely different world, right.

1610
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 2: We were talking a little bit about the NCAA tournament

1611
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: and expansion and new permutations of that, and it's always

1612
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: the trying to make sure you're appeasing, you know, the

1613
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,640
Speaker 2: big hitters of it all when we talk conferences, and

1614
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 2: that's been one of the big things, particularly with the

1615
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: college Football Playoff. And we talked about this a little

1616
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: bit and certainly across the network, but worth re visiting

1617
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: here is like, if you've got clout in any walk

1618
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 2: of life, whatever it is, you're going to try to

1619
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 2: lean a little bit. We're seeing it at free agency,

1620
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: right Chris Jones made it pretty clear what he wanted

1621
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: to stay. But he would have had thirty one other suitors.

1622
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: You would have done whatever you could to clear cap

1623
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: space to go get a disruptor like him on your roster.

1624
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 2: So you exert that Kansas City pays the Piper Snead

1625
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: gets his franchise tag. Everybody's happy. The four Horsemen of

1626
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: the Chiefs return and we have another See what it's

1627
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 2: just all wrestling records is all the time, but just

1628
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: that idea exactly well, because a couple of guys are

1629
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: now going into the Hall of Fame, like there's just

1630
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 2: so much going on, but it's it's just that idea

1631
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: of you know, for the big ten and sec. From

1632
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: the football side, you know, people got up in arms

1633
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: about the automatic bids that they were fighting for. It's

1634
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: like they have the cloud of just saying we're gonna

1635
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 2: leave and do our own things. So you either acquiesced

1636
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: short term and try to work out the details. Then

1637
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,120
Speaker 2: we'll have played a game of this twelve team turn

1638
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 2: playoff and we're already had fourteen.

1639
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 3: You're you're right, and I actually think and this is

1640
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 3: something that that has bothered me because I'm not a

1641
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: fan of the fourteen team bracket, just like I'm not

1642
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: a fan of the seventy two or seventy sixteen bracket

1643
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,680
Speaker 3: in the NCAA tournament. But if it's inevitable, I better

1644
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 3: figure out a way to make it work. If it

1645
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 3: goes to fourteen like we think it is, the Big

1646
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: Ten would have every right and the SEC would have

1647
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 3: every right to ask for a first round by. Those

1648
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 3: conferences are going to be significantly better than the Big

1649
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 3: Twelve in the ACC. They just are a one lost

1650
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 3: team in the Big Ten in the ACC in that league. Sorry,

1651
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 3: it's going to be a better resume than the ACC

1652
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,600
Speaker 3: or the Big twelve have. It's just the way it is.

1653
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 3: Don't be mad at me. That's what college football is

1654
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 3: going to end up being. So they should ask for

1655
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 3: a first round by And I thought it was I

1656
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 3: get why the Big twelve is mad, but the excuse

1657
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 3: is that they said, like you wouldn't give the Dallas

1658
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 3: Cowboys a bye because they're more popular. It's not about popularity.

1659
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 3: The NFL has a balanced schedule, Mike, and I'm using

1660
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 3: the air quotes, but we don't talk. We don't take

1661
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 3: strength of schedule into account in the National Football league.

1662
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 3: It never has. We do in college football. It has

1663
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 3: always been a big part of how we determine teams.

1664
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 3: And if you say that that doesn't happen in the NFL,

1665
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 3: I say bull crap. Because we give preference to a

1666
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 3: team that wins a division. You could have two of

1667
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,879
Speaker 3: the top teams in the NFL in the same division

1668
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 3: and one of those teams has to go on the

1669
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 3: road for three games because they didn't win their division.

1670
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 3: We give buys to the top teams in the conference.

1671
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 3: You could have two of the best the top two

1672
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: teams in the league could be from the same conference. Well,

1673
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 3: that means one of them is going to have to

1674
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 3: play three games and not just two. So there is

1675
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,879
Speaker 3: preferential treatment given to certain teams. So all the excuses

1676
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 3: the college coaches had to may like they don't do

1677
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 3: this in the NFL. Bull They to it all the

1678
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: time in the NFL. It's just not in the way

1679
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 3: that you see it. And so the big ten in

1680
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: the SEC asking for a first round by because they're

1681
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 3: going to be playing significantly more difficult schedules. I don't

1682
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 3: think it was out of the you know, the realm

1683
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 3: of craziness at all. And for them to like push

1684
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 3: back on the public backlash from it, so be it.

1685
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: I think it just allows them to get their fourteen

1686
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: team are in then as they want, which could be

1687
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 3: more schools. Heck, they're already getting big twelve in the AEC,

1688
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 3: already getting two automatic bids. Anyway, I don't even think

1689
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: they deserve it. The AEC wouldn't have had two teams

1690
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 3: in the fourteen team bracket if it was last year.

1691
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: Now, every right, but I but I enjoy those battles

1692
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: because you know, everybody's trying to stake out their position

1693
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: and what is a really wild convergence of events over

1694
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 2: these last couple of years, right, We're we're riding with

1695
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 2: a lot of without guardrails on a lot of this stuff.

1696
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 2: Right As related, NCAA is still trying to have its peace.

1697
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 2: I know the pejorative is to just say, hey, they're

1698
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: party planners, which is great, but you look at the

1699
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 2: nil ruling in Tennessee. That shakes everything up, right, All

1700
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: investigations have to stop. I want to know if Florida

1701
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 2: State gets it back anything that they lost and what

1702
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 2: came down on them. Right, So, like we you know

1703
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 2: the case in Tennessee, is a jumping off point for

1704
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: a lot of this other work that we look forward

1705
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: to in these next couple of years, right with the

1706
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:54,120
Speaker 2: NCAA having less and less clout to really enact anything

1707
01:28:55,000 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 2: and trying to make sure that you're keeping everybody for

1708
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: more or less happy because at any point the Big

1709
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: ten and SEC could secede from the union altogether. Sure,

1710
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: you just to make the two conference into one super

1711
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: league and they take all the money and eyeballs with them.

1712
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Because I don't think the college coaches are wrong in

1713
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: terms of bringing up the Cowboys, just from a clout

1714
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: kind of standpoint. I just think it's very far down

1715
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,799
Speaker 2: the list, right to your point about the way division

1716
01:29:31,920 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: winners are treated and buys or it's there, it's just

1717
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: very low like that. That's the low hanging fruit. Like

1718
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 2: the bigger issue is up up top, and then popularity

1719
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:47,920
Speaker 2: and the television side can't be dismissed. But it's it's

1720
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: not it's and this is one of the few times

1721
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: I think it's not the be all to end all.

1722
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 3: Sure, if you know, if if Alabama goes and meats Georgia, Texas, Oklahoma,

1723
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 3: LSU and a season and as one loss to Ole

1724
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 3: miss and then you would have, you know, a team

1725
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: in the just use the Big twelve. For example, let's

1726
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,759
Speaker 3: just take one of the new takes. Take Utah or whatever.

1727
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 3: Utah goes thirteen and oh sorry, you can't match wins

1728
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: over Georgia, Texas in Oklahoma. You just the Big Ten.

1729
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 3: If Michigan runs the table, you've beaten Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, Washington.

1730
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 3: You know, it's look at the College Football Playoff from

1731
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 3: this past year. It's the future. It's the Big ten

1732
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,200
Speaker 3: of the SEC, and it's it's I get it. It stinks,

1733
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: but it's also we have to realize on how we're

1734
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,120
Speaker 3: going to operate because it is on the horizon. It's coming.

1735
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: And would you want the Big ten in the SEC

1736
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 3: to be like you know what ACC and Big twelve.

1737
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 3: We've given you two automatic qualifiers, but now some of

1738
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 3: our teams are being left out in the cold. Yeah,

1739
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 3: we'd rather have a different format, you know, so we

1740
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: can get more of our teams in and change. You know,

1741
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 3: that could have been a possibility.

1742
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: And that's where you do leverage. Be TV clout absolute

1743
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 2: in the contracts that they've been able to negotiate through

1744
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 2: the years, and we look at the Big ten. Now

1745
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 2: talking about more Friday.

1746
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 3: Do we dive into that?

1747
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stay there. Justin Field's will or will not

1748
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: have a job. Well, we've talked about him, but we'll

1749
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 2: get to him in a minute. He's Dan Byer, I'm

1750
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:26,600
Speaker 2: by Carbon. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We continue Friday

1751
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 2: Night Lights. Just which division and which league are you watching?

1752
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that next on Fox Welcome back in

1753
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 2: It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Mike Carbon alongside

1754
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 2: Dan Bayer at Dan Byer on Fox where you find him?

1755
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 2: Find me over at Swollen Dome.

1756
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: Hey.

1757
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 2: You know, just like in basketball, successful game plan starts

1758
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: with the right players. Team at Tractor Supply brings hustle

1759
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 2: and heart and that's what really sets them apart. So

1760
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: lace up your sneakers and make the winning play by

1761
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 2: heading to your local Tractor Supply store today and starting Monday,

1762
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 2: yeah tomorrow, you can register for the Fox Sports Radio

1763
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 2: Bracket Challenge at Fox Sports Radio dot Com. Listeners can

1764
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: compete with our host for bragging rights to see who

1765
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:11,839
Speaker 2: has the better Turney bracket brought to you by Tractors

1766
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 2: Supply and all of you who enter I guarantee will

1767
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 2: crush me. Ah, come on, Mike and just a little

1768
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,439
Speaker 2: piece of my soul for good. Vie locked in Now,

1769
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 2: it'll be fun. We'll get the brackets up obviously, there's

1770
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 2: group challenges and you can get in with the host.

1771
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: Dan is ready to go. He's got his bracket printed already,

1772
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 2: ready to fill it out as soon as.

1773
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait a week from today talking about greatest

1774
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,680
Speaker 3: sports day, Selection Sunday is right up there.

1775
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:42,080
Speaker 2: It is classic, yes, and now with all the screaming

1776
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 2: members of the media from the college basketball side that

1777
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 2: want to fight with each other all the time, next

1778
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:48,679
Speaker 2: Sunday should actually be pretty fun.

1779
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 3: That's what I missed so much from when COVID shut

1780
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:56,640
Speaker 3: everything down four years ago. Tomorrow's the anniversary of the

1781
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 3: shutdown day of these sports. But also when Tom Brady

1782
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 3: decided to retire. He did it on Selection Sunday, Yes

1783
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: he did. And darn you, Tom Brady. You know, don't

1784
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 3: don't make a return tomorrow. Stay retired.

1785
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had my timeline. So you had Rudy Gobert

1786
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 2: with his with two stories kind of sidled up together.

1787
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 2: One the microphone grabbing. We all remember that from four

1788
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,560
Speaker 2: years ago and then making the money sign to officials

1789
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: the other nights, which you got them an immediate technical

1790
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:34,759
Speaker 2: file because we do have ideas and questions about point

1791
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: spreads and point shaving going on in college sports temple

1792
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 2: really under the microscope right now. But we were talking

1793
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 2: about a little bit before the Breakdan, the idea of

1794
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:49,000
Speaker 2: Fox as an entity, and certainly you know us sitting

1795
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,639
Speaker 2: here in the Fox Sports radio studios, the larger Fox community.

1796
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: Wherever you can get more live programming, that's where we're

1797
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 2: at in twenty twenty four, right. That is the win,

1798
01:33:58,160 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: and it's particularly live sort. It's the last bastion of

1799
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: mussy television as opposed to, Hey, I can go to

1800
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:06,960
Speaker 2: the DVR and I'll get to it later. And we've

1801
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: talked about this for years, but they're saying the Friday

1802
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 2: night space being underutilized. And we've had games and you've

1803
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 2: had assorted packages mixed therein, but it's not been a

1804
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: consistent hand Friday night lights. And now the National High

1805
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: School Football Association saying, hold on, hold on, you're taking

1806
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 2: away from our product. You're taking away what we're doing.

1807
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 2: We've heard rumblings of more Friday games from the NFL

1808
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: perhaps off the success even though it was an Aaron

1809
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 2: Rodgers list Jets team on Black Friday. But that was successful, right.

1810
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 2: They get a lot of eyeballs, a lot of traffic,

1811
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 2: a lot of rolls to.

1812
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 3: The opening game in Brazil. Well, the Eagles coming up

1813
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: is going to be a Friday Friday night.

1814
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So finding and encroaching on that spot. And look,

1815
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,080
Speaker 2: I love y'all, and I give you a big hug.

1816
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 2: You're not except for very rare events. And maybe locally

1817
01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 2: there's more of it. I'm sure in Texas you've got

1818
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 2: some Friday nights that get some television coverage in the

1819
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:14,560
Speaker 2: state of Texas. California, there is to a degree. But

1820
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 2: if you can get a big time college football game

1821
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: on a Friday night, I think everybody wins. You can

1822
01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 2: choose what you want. Competition is good.

1823
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 3: Your point at the beginning was I think so important

1824
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 3: is that the cat was already out of the bag.

1825
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 3: The stuff was happening, you know, So why weren't you

1826
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: mad at those schools? Because it's not about the network TV,

1827
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: Because honestly, Mike, I don't know how many people are

1828
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: going to be staying home to watch a game as

1829
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 3: opposed to going to their local high school to actually

1830
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: watch their team player to follow that team on a

1831
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,719
Speaker 3: road game. Where I think the conflict ends up popping

1832
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 3: up is when the school in your area is playing

1833
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 3: a home game and you are filling that stadium seventy

1834
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 3: to eighty thousand fans. A bunch of those attended would

1835
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 3: attend a high school football game that same night as well.

1836
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 3: That's the only part of it. I don't I don't

1837
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 3: think it. I don't think the viewership of it is

1838
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 3: going to change anything. It's more of a wide ranging thing,

1839
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 3: like no offense. If if if it was a if

1840
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 3: it was a Friday night game between Boston College and

1841
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 3: Virginia and the acc AM, I missing my home high

1842
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 3: school football team out in California to watch that game. No, no, no,

1843
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 3: Maybe different if it's USC playing, you know, or UCLA.

1844
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 3: But that's so that's yeah, I get that there's this

1845
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,679
Speaker 3: sacred window, but who are we really really affecting? And honestly,

1846
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 3: you're not going to have five college football games with

1847
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: the same team on a Friday night, so it's kind

1848
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 3: of a one off. So maybe like only one high

1849
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 3: school football game is is corrected. But this has been

1850
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 3: going on for a while. I don't know why you

1851
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 3: would make a big deal out of it.

1852
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 2: Now, if you're the high, it's our sacred space. It's

1853
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 2: like NBA stands and look, I love the league. I

1854
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 2: love watching the like we talk about the Bucks and

1855
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,679
Speaker 2: me forgetting Patrick Beverley played twenty two games for the Bulls,

1856
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 2: but you know, marveling at what Kobe White could become,

1857
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 2: all of that, the accolades from Kevin Durant and still

1858
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,920
Speaker 2: living in the late late nineties, you know, with the

1859
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 2: No Bull Tour and all of that fun stuff. It's

1860
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: kind of like the eighty five Bears stuff that you

1861
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,920
Speaker 2: know you have to cling to because you're not winning

1862
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 2: anything else anytime soon. But you're looking at through the

1863
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: lens of all, right, what's important to me?

1864
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 4: Right?

1865
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:37,320
Speaker 2: And what do I gravitate to? And for college athletics,

1866
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: you're either ran or you're out. But for the NBA folks,

1867
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 2: it's like, Wow, the NFL wants to be on Christmas Day. Okay, sorry,

1868
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 2: competition happens. They found a window, and there's gonna be

1869
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: years where it doesn't make sense, you know, Christmas falling

1870
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:55,120
Speaker 2: on a Wednesday or something, doesn't mean you can't still

1871
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,080
Speaker 2: work the schedule and working for a couple of teams

1872
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: to make that happen. But it's the idea of this

1873
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 2: is just your day. Why do we give up what

1874
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: might be beneficial to expanding our pie to accommodate you?

1875
01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: All right, I'm sorry, it's it's the natural law of

1876
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: the jungle as far as the business world goes.

1877
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they and the and they do and they

1878
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 3: you know, and they they like don't cross in a way, Mike,

1879
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 3: because it's there's if if you're a Nebraska football fan

1880
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 3: and they're playing a Friday night game at home, that's

1881
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:32,080
Speaker 3: that sings for the high schools on LinkedIn, it's sings

1882
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,320
Speaker 3: of the high schools and omah, you know that because

1883
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 3: there's gonna be so much attention. But it's one weekend.

1884
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,800
Speaker 3: It's one game. It's not every single week. And you

1885
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 3: talk about like the the the bottom line of it

1886
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 3: of like why college would do it, It's yeah, there's

1887
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 3: there's no there's you know, like I I understand like

1888
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 3: the NBA and NFL are kind of in a way rivals,

1889
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: but there is no there is no connection. There's not

1890
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 3: they're not rivals with they're not trying to damage them.

1891
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 3: They're just, as you said, trying to find this in

1892
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 3: the in the marketplace. And it now and it's another

1893
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:07,760
Speaker 3: primetime network window for the Big ten. So you've got

1894
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 3: the Fox, Big you know, Big News, got the guys,

1895
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,519
Speaker 3: you got the NBC. I mean, so you know almost

1896
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:16,639
Speaker 3: half your league. You know, if you're if you're playing

1897
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: Big ten, and they put Big twelve games there as well,

1898
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,000
Speaker 3: but you know they're gonna be they're gonna be moved around.

1899
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's another marquee spot for those leagues. I

1900
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 3: can't be mad at it.

1901
01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the end, if you're choosing the high school game,

1902
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,519
Speaker 2: the high school game is more important to you right now? Yes, yes,

1903
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,880
Speaker 2: And it's like, as you say, it's gonna be a

1904
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,719
Speaker 2: one off. It's not like a Las Vegas residency every

1905
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 2: Friday night is going to be the same team. Now,

1906
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 2: as we know, when it comes to televising things, wherever

1907
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,479
Speaker 2: you can get that sweet spot and get that team

1908
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 2: in like the NBA packages for years you saw basically

1909
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 2: eight teams and whoever they might have been playing, ye

1910
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Speaker 2: usually cannibalizing each other. And that was the window or

1911
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 2: growing up in Chicago was the Bears, followed by the

1912
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 2: Cowboys are forty nine ers and whoever they were playing,

1913
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 2: which means I have a real unnatural heat for the

1914
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: Cowboys in forty I watch something else, show me something else.

1915
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Chicago, let's talk about Justin Fields for a moment.

1916
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Speaker 2: We'll do that next. He's Dan Bayer, I'm by Carmen,

1917
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 2: and this is Isaac Loewenkron. He's got to stop Steve

1918
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 2: Hartman from talking for a moment so we can give

1919
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Speaker 2: us our update.

1920
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Speaker 6: This typically doesn't stop Steve Hartman from talking. Typically nothing

1921
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Speaker 6: stopped him from talking. Stay tuned for him at the

1922
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Speaker 6: top of the hour. By the way, we will start

1923
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Speaker 6: fellas with the Big South Tournament championship game going on

1924
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 6: right now. The Longwood Lancers lead the unc Ashville Bulldogs

1925
01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 6: twenty nine to fourteen with five minutes and forty seconds

1926
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 6: remaining in the first half in women's college basketball Big

1927
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Speaker 6: Ten Tournament Championship game going on right now, and fifth

1928
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Speaker 6: rank Nebraska is a twenty three. It's his seventeen lead

1929
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 6: over number two Iowa with nine and a half minutes

1930
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:07,839
Speaker 6: remaining in the second quarter. And check it out, Iowa

1931
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 6: star Caitlin Clark won for eight from the field to

1932
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 6: begin this game, including all for six from three point range.

1933
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,800
Speaker 6: In the NFL and really elsewhere in sports, it's all

1934
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,599
Speaker 6: about the Jones. Multiple outlets report that the New England

1935
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 6: Patriots are trading quarterback MATC. Jones to the Jacksonville Jaguars

1936
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:29,080
Speaker 6: for a sixth round draft pick. Meanwhile, late last night,

1937
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs star defensive tackle Chris Jones agreed to

1938
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:36,759
Speaker 6: a new five year deal that includes ninety five million

1939
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 6: dollars in guaranteed money. Jones had been set to become

1940
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 6: an unrestricted free agent on Monday. In English Premier League soccer,

1941
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 6: right now, Manchester City has a one to nothing lead

1942
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 6: over Liverpool and first half stoppage time. Liverpool FC midfielder

1943
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 6: Curtis Jones was inactive for the match. In baseball, the

1944
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 6: Jones count High School Greyhounds in Gray, Georgia will be

1945
01:42:04,120 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 6: taking on the Perry High School of Panthers tomorrow at

1946
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 6: five thirty Eastern. And finally, noted seismologist doctor Lucy Jones

1947
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 6: has been named California's Woman of the Year by USA Today.

1948
01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 6: All about the Joneses back to you.

1949
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,160
Speaker 3: It's tough to keep up with the Jones is, but no.

1950
01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,200
Speaker 2: Question about it. Actually, at Isaac Lowan Crown where you

1951
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: find him, I think he just dropped his microphone. I

1952
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,679
Speaker 2: think he just tore it off of the the stanchion.

1953
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:37,120
Speaker 3: There's something about uh, Sunday morning, Isaac Flair, and that's

1954
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 3: what it is. It's like it's peacocking a little bit.

1955
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get an extra story or two normally add on.

1956
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 3: You know, there is that like the like a like

1957
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: a parallel card and a pack of cards like that.

1958
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 3: Last story is.

1959
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,720
Speaker 2: Like, No, that's the that's the Ilo. You get the

1960
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 2: bass Ilo, and then you get the lenticular the many

1961
01:42:56,680 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 2: faces of Ilo or Ilo laughing at you or whatever

1962
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 2: the case may be. No, it's it's true. That's a

1963
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 2: good idea. I'll run that up the flagpole at Panini.

1964
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 2: See if we can get the anchor cards with the

1965
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:11,880
Speaker 2: many faces of Ilo, because usually either gives me some

1966
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,160
Speaker 2: great quotes off Twitter. Sure, people reacting to his story,

1967
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, Joe X eighty four ninety seven says.

1968
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 3: The only one that cites Twitter users specifically by handble Eh,

1969
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:26,320
Speaker 3: They're about.

1970
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,920
Speaker 2: As good as many of the other sources that people

1971
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,960
Speaker 2: what our business do run out on occasion. Hey, shortly

1972
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 2: after the show, the podcast goes up, So if you

1973
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Speaker 2: missed any of today's show, be sure to check out

1974
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Speaker 2: the pods. Search Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to follow,

1975
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Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast. That's the important part. Tell

1976
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 2: us how good well we sound? I mean, the voice

1977
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,599
Speaker 2: is coming through these wonderful microphones. Search Fox Sports Radio.

1978
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Wherever you get your podcasts. See this show posted right

1979
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Speaker 2: after we get off air. It's Fox Sports Sunday Buyer

1980
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 2: and Harmon at Nanbyro on Fox on Twitter is where

1981
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 2: you find Dan find me over at Swollen Dome and

1982
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 2: leading into the Justin Fields conversation with mac Jones getting delt.

1983
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 2: You're hearing that from Ilo coming down a little while ago.

1984
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 2: Now he's off to Jacksonville. Sixth round pick is the price.

1985
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,280
Speaker 2: So the Athletic put this up about a half hour ago.

1986
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 2: Five quarterbacks in the first fifteen picks of that twenty

1987
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 2: twenty one draft. Mac Jones traded Justin Fields. We'll get

1988
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: to him momentarily pinning it on the trading block. Where

1989
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 2: he ends up or does he stay? We'll see Trey

1990
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 2: Lance has already been traded to Dallas. Jerry Jones now

1991
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 2: talking up a bunch. Zach Wilson was benched and has

1992
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 2: been allowed to seek a trade. And then you have

1993
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence at the top of the food chain who

1994
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 2: has struggled right, turnovers all over the place, little bit

1995
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: of health issue, but turnovers. And obviously that huge collapse

1996
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 2: that Jacksonville had second happen this year twenty twenty one

1997
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 2: draft class not looking so great in the moment.

1998
01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 3: And I, honestly, Mike, I would love to have a

1999
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 3: strong take on this and say, these quarterbacks just didn't

2000
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 3: get it done. I don't know how much of it

2001
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 3: is their fault, and it may sound like I'm being

2002
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 3: a scapegoat or I'm giving them an out. The way

2003
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 3: that we now view quarterbacks though in the National Football League,

2004
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 3: and how quickly we want to turn away from them,

2005
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 3: or how quickly we put them in a spot that

2006
01:45:30,200 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 3: they maybe aren't prepared for and are ready to move

2007
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 3: on just because of the timeline and salaries and what

2008
01:45:37,479 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: you've done. I look in these scenarios and Mac Jones

2009
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:46,080
Speaker 3: to follow Tom Brady, that's pretty tough justin fields. And

2010
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 3: we're having the conversation and maybe because we're having the

2011
01:45:49,160 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 3: conversation after the three years there's still been production there,

2012
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 3: but I know there's also problems there. But Trey Lance

2013
01:45:56,560 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 3: in his scenario on San Francisco, I just this. I

2014
01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 3: know there were injuries and stuff. It just doesn't seem

2015
01:46:04,280 --> 01:46:07,720
Speaker 3: that it ever really was right, that it was the

2016
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: right spot for him. And then you have Zach Wilson

2017
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 3: and his issues and heck, even Trevor Laura, like, I

2018
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 3: don't know, I just like to me the situations that

2019
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 3: these guys go into and what they're expected to do.

2020
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,719
Speaker 3: Maybe Zach Wilson needed a city yere, you know, maybe

2021
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:26,120
Speaker 3: Mac Jones needed to city here.

2022
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 2: You know, that's it coming out of the COVID run.

2023
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 2: And that's kind of in the background of all of

2024
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:35,760
Speaker 2: this and what college football was for that space. You

2025
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:38,920
Speaker 2: got through the games, remember the Big Ten. Yeah, you know,

2026
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 2: they had their issues of whether they were going to

2027
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 2: play or not and initially were voting not to and

2028
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 2: then got their season together, et cetera. But you generally

2029
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:53,560
Speaker 2: don't go to greatly advantageous situations, right, very rarely do

2030
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,560
Speaker 2: you go to the Oh it's the Indianapolis Colts. You

2031
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 2: had Peyton Manning. Oh, you got hurt lo and behold.

2032
01:46:59,280 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 2: One bad year, there's Andrew Luck for whatever his run was,

2033
01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 2: normally it's a all right, you're going into a pretty

2034
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 2: bad situation. Probably changed the coach, probably changed to GM Philosophically,

2035
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,639
Speaker 2: there's already some battles in the building and you show

2036
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,640
Speaker 2: up and to the point of all these guys and

2037
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 2: to fixate directly on fields, going back to my home

2038
01:47:19,680 --> 01:47:23,720
Speaker 2: home land of Chicago, is is he the number one

2039
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 2: problem you've had? No? Is he a perfect quarterback at

2040
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:26,840
Speaker 2: this point?

2041
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:27,000
Speaker 3: No?

2042
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 2: But to hear all of the talk is like he's

2043
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 2: a finished product, which is problematic. Yeah, so three years

2044
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: production obviously some high points. Still holds onto the ball

2045
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,920
Speaker 2: to long ball security and knowing like there's issues, there

2046
01:47:43,960 --> 01:47:49,880
Speaker 2: are numerous issues. But is he fully to blame with

2047
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:53,960
Speaker 2: a better surrounding cast? Is it better? And to your point,

2048
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 2: the expectation that these guys come in year one and

2049
01:47:57,040 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 2: set the world on fire. I mean, mac Jones was fine,

2050
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 2: you're one one. Was he great? No? Did he have

2051
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 2: to beat No, the roster didn't require him to go

2052
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,839
Speaker 2: out and throw four or five hundred yards at forty touchdowns.

2053
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 3: And and your point about that coming off of the

2054
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 3: COVID season. I remember Daniel Jeremiah and other saying it's

2055
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:18,479
Speaker 3: the most difficult season to scout and for that draft,

2056
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 3: because you just it was such a weird year. He

2057
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 3: had players opting out of the college season. It was

2058
01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 3: just very, very unique. And maybe that's some of this.

2059
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's well put by you. If

2060
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 3: the Bears didn't have the first overall pick, or they

2061
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 3: weren't picking in the top five, they'd just say they

2062
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 3: were sitting there at number nine. We're not even I

2063
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 3: don't even think we're talking about Justin Field's leaving town.

2064
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:45,240
Speaker 3: It's because they've got the opportunity to maybe draft Caleb Williams.

2065
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:47,519
Speaker 3: There's a conversation about whether the Bears would pick up

2066
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 3: his option or not. That would be the conversation. But

2067
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:53,040
Speaker 3: you know, they're in such a unique situation, and I

2068
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,680
Speaker 3: think the Bears have actually gotten a lot of unwarranted

2069
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 3: flack over the last week or so. They don't have

2070
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 3: to trade Justin Fields. If the markets isn't there now,

2071
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,720
Speaker 3: I guarantee it'll be there in late September when two

2072
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 3: quarterbacks end up going down.

2073
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 2: But that's the larger point, right, I agree with that wholeheartedly.

2074
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,879
Speaker 2: I don't think there's ever really been a roma robust

2075
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:16,120
Speaker 2: marketplace for him, right ties to Atlanta, ties to Pittsburgh ties.

2076
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:19,320
Speaker 2: But you've got all these other quarterbacks swirling, either drafting

2077
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,760
Speaker 2: one of your own, staying status quo, or you've got

2078
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 2: Mayfield or Cousins or Russell Wilson or like whomever. In

2079
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: terms of these veteran quarterbacks that are swirling, if you

2080
01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,439
Speaker 2: decide they're a better fit, because they don't, they aren't

2081
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:40,719
Speaker 2: gonna cost you draft picks. And yeah, there's there's also

2082
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: the point of Mike. The only leverage that these the

2083
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: Bears have is that maybe the Falcons or the Giants

2084
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 2: or the Steelers would want to get into a bidding

2085
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 2: war with each other. They just know that if the

2086
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 2: Bears are going to draft a quarterback that they're likely

2087
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 2: going to have to get rid of them. So the

2088
01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Bears don't have any leverage right now. It's just it's yes, man,

2089
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 2: I can't believe that Justin Fields is the most talked about.

2090
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 2: He's the most talked about me, I think, more so

2091
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: than Russell Wilson even this offseason, of just of what

2092
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 2: we've done and where we put him. Well, I think

2093
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 2: there's the the idea, Dan though is after three years,

2094
01:50:15,840 --> 01:50:17,560
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's from and it's the Bears, and

2095
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 2: it's a great it's a great town to get on.

2096
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:22,840
Speaker 2: Like we were talking a little bit Chris Purffett, Uh,

2097
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 2: you know, to bring to bring in the conversation behind

2098
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 2: the glass, right, talking about Detroit and past eras and

2099
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 2: things that are emblematic of what your identity has been

2100
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 2: as a franchise. Right. So Scott Mitchell in issues with

2101
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 2: the the Barry Sanders documentary and whatever, he's always the

2102
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 2: poster child of failed expect expectations there. For Chicago, it's

2103
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 2: just a long line of guys since Sid Luckman. With

2104
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 2: the one year of Jim McMahon. Yes, and that and

2105
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 2: that defense, the offense, everything clicking for that one season. Otherwise,

2106
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 2: I mean, Rex Grossman got them to a Bowl, was

2107
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 2: carried to a Super Bowl, but all you remember is

2108
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 2: Prince singing purple ragin at half time because Peyton Manning

2109
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 2: didn't play particularly well in that game. Either. Yeah, So like, yes,

2110
01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: he got his victory and everything else, but you remember

2111
01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 2: the Prince performance more than anything else. But it's been

2112
01:51:15,400 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 2: quarterback after quarterback, so it becomes the will Chicago screwed

2113
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 2: this up again with Caleb Williams. With Russell Wilson, I think,

2114
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been in the league since twenty twelve.

2115
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 2: It's like, is this the natural age where quarterbacks are

2116
01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 2: usually on that what are we doing kind of phase?

2117
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: I think Tom Brady rouned it for everybody, is that

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Speaker 2: we expect these guys now to live forever.

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Speaker 3: You know, Ryan Pols had said what we had heard

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Speaker 3: reports two weeks ago that the decision on what they

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Speaker 3: were going to do is likely going to be made

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Speaker 3: by the start of the combine, and there's been no movement.

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Speaker 2: Now, we want to be fair to to Justin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see. I I if it's gonna happen, it's

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Speaker 3: going to have to happen soon. Otherwise I don't think

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Speaker 3: it happens at all. And I think he's a bear

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Speaker 3: when the season started.

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Speaker 2: Just wait for those injuries to pile up.

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Speaker 3: No, and then you'll have teams willing to art ways.

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Speaker 2: Desperation as it were. Find the podcast wherever you get

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Speaker 2: your audio goes up. After we're done here, Ian, I'll

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Speaker 2: get that up. Also, the iwatcher Flex podcast season finale,

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Speaker 2: the five round mock draft, as well as our fantasy

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Speaker 2: conversation from a little bit earlier. Coming up next, exhibitions

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Speaker 2: in sports. One was announced this week that got people

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Speaker 2: really upset. And then Saturday night, in front of a

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Speaker 2: sold out house, a couple of Major League Baseball veterans

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Speaker 2: brought down the house. Why do we complain about such things?

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about it next here on Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Mike Harmon, Dan Byer with you here. Coming up in

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes. Our guys Steve Hartman stalking the hallways

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Speaker 2: alongside Rich Hoornberger as they get you prepared for a

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Speaker 2: big day in the sporting universe. We're watching Iowa and Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: Nebraska with an eleven point lead coming down to the

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Speaker 2: final minute of the first half of.

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Speaker 3: Five seeded Huskers making that charge.

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Speaker 2: About that they split the regular season series. Another turnover

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Speaker 2: from Caitlin Clark here in the final forty seconds of

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Speaker 2: this first half, So a little bit of.

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Speaker 3: Chaos this, by the way, Mike, is a rivalry and

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Speaker 3: it's not just women's basketball. When Nebraska came to the

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Speaker 3: Big Ten, the rival Iowa obviously had rivalries with Wisconsin,

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Speaker 3: had rivalries with Minnesota, but this Nebraska rivalry is a

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Speaker 3: different animal. And so when of all the things that

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Speaker 3: you could have, we know the great Nebraska Oklahoma history

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Speaker 3: from the Big Eight, but you wondered how Nebraska would

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Speaker 3: fit in rivalry rival wise in the Big Ten. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they and Iowa do not like each other. So it's

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Speaker 3: a good, good rivalry.

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Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark at this point, oh for nine from three

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Speaker 2: point range, two of thirteen, shooting.

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Speaker 3: The off the target center right now for the nicely

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Speaker 3: I like.

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Speaker 2: The center of the courtard.

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: And then we've got man City one nil over Liverpool

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Speaker 2: as they get the second half started their epl. Plenty

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Speaker 2: of other sporting events out there, but I wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring this one up. Dan. You know, I'm all about

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Speaker 2: you know, a spectacle. Right. We were talking wrestling and

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Speaker 2: having some fun with references to the bloodline and and

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Speaker 2: my allegiance to Seth Rollins, noted Chicago Bears fan. So

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Speaker 2: guess guess who we're going to try to get on

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Speaker 2: before the draft and h and before WrestleMania. Yeah that guy.

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Speaker 2: So we tie it all together. See, that's what we

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Speaker 2: do with a nice bow, but the spectacle. Earlier this

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Speaker 2: week announced Mike Tyson, Jake Paul, his brother Logan running

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Speaker 2: around in the WWE, and he's been tremendous viral videos.

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Speaker 2: Guy who's been willing to do whatever, flying around the

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Speaker 2: ring from ridiculous heights and whatever, like throw his body in.

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Speaker 2: And it's an exhibition that got people all handwringing in

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Speaker 2: and hurt on so many levels. And then last night

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Speaker 2: the Savannah Bananas, the running Minor league baseball you know,

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Speaker 2: traveling road show. They sell out Minute Made Park and

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Speaker 2: they bring out Roger Clemens and Royo's Wall, Right, they

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Speaker 2: go and they pitch and yeah, and they've been doing

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Speaker 2: this and they've done a lot of those. They sold

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Speaker 2: out Mini Made Park. Paul and Tyson are gonna have

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Speaker 2: how many subscribers? What is a two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million potential?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Where's the loss in any of this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, you know, you know where I draw

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Speaker 3: the parallel. It's when people hated Nickelback for so long.

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Speaker 2: Even though they sold fifty million.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, somebody likes them. Yeah, you know, like what

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Speaker 3: was the why was they hate? Just because people feel

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Speaker 3: so up aty I think that the Tyson Paul thing

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Speaker 3: the reason why this is the reason why it why

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Speaker 3: it works. But I think it's different than the Savanna Bananas.

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Speaker 3: The Savannah Bananas are a fun show, fun to take

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Speaker 3: the family, have a good time. The Tyson Paul thing

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Speaker 3: is I think people are people want to see Jake

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Speaker 3: Paul get punched, you know, like they want to see him.

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Speaker 3: They also are curious about Tyson. But I think the

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Speaker 3: reason they're also like, oh no, is because Jake Paul

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Speaker 3: may beat Tyson if it's a true bout, And I

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Speaker 3: don't think anybody wants that reality, which then makes it

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Speaker 3: that much more of a watch. Like the Savannah Bananas

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Speaker 3: are just you know, you could be a hater, you know,

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Speaker 3: all you want, just like, yeah, you hated nickelback this.

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Speaker 3: I think people are invested because, you know, there's a

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Speaker 3: true villain. I don't know if they I don't know

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Speaker 3: who the opposing team of the Savannah Bananas like who

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Speaker 3: they always play it, you know, just like the Washington

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, but like they're not like the real villain.

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Speaker 3: They're more of the butt of the jokes or you know,

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Speaker 3: dealing with what you have to deal with. And I

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Speaker 3: think they have their own I've not seen a full game,

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Speaker 3: but I've seen clips. But does I think people are

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Speaker 3: invested in Tyson and Paul just having.

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Speaker 2: A lot lot of fun with it. But like the

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Speaker 2: Paul Tyson, I mean, it's an exhibition back. I don't

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Speaker 2: expect these guys are, you know, putting the mouthpieces in

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Speaker 2: and it's just raining blows on each other. And maybe

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Speaker 2: it escalates to that, maybe it does, but he's all

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Speaker 2: about putting on a show and clicks and whatever it was.

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Speaker 2: And for Mike Tyson look man like the heydays are

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Speaker 2: long ago, and to say his image could be tarnished.

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Speaker 3: Like we all remember Buster Douglas man, I know, but

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Speaker 3: it can't. But it can't turn into the NBA All

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Speaker 3: Star Game. That is what you can't have. You can't

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Speaker 3: have two guys dancing around the ring and.

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Speaker 2: What Mayweather did that for years and everybody watched it

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Speaker 2: and they kept paying hoping he would get punched in

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Speaker 2: the mouth and he never did.

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Speaker 3: But he thought something was at stake. He thought something

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Speaker 3: was alive there. And this one we understand what it

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Speaker 3: is that it's okay. Maybe it's not for all the stakes.

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Speaker 3: They just they better not NBA All Star Game, and

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Speaker 3: that's all that I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd be curious, like if you're if you're smart,

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Speaker 2: you build out an undercard and try to feature a

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Speaker 2: couple of fighters that you really want to get a

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Speaker 2: push because there's gonna be eyeballs. Yep, and that's really

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Speaker 2: and if it brings more eyeballs back to the sport

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Speaker 2: at least for a fleeting minute, not the worst of things,

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Speaker 2: not at all. There you go. He's Dan Fire at

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Speaker 2: Dan Byer on Fox. Find Me over at Swollen Dome

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Speaker 2: podcast goes up next. Thanks Seean, Thanks Chris, Thanks Ilow.

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Speaker 2: Steven Rich coming up next on Fox.