WEBVTT - There’s No Crying in Baseball 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.039 Hey kat Hi. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:10.719 What? 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:16.040 Oh nothing? It was one of those I had a 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:18.440 Friends and Neighbors I love we love that show. Oh yeah, 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:21.000 did you finish it? I did such a good show. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:21.560 So good. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.599 We had a friends and neighbors moment, but like, I 0:00:25.600 --> 0:00:26.440 can't speak about it. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.840 I feel like if you had a friends and neighbors moment, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:32.040 we absolutely cannot speak about it. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.800 No, we can't, all fair, But is there anything you'd 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:35.480 like to bring up? 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:37.800 Oh? Man, you know, I had a moment this morning. 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:40.040 I'm feeling like a bad mom. I'm feeling guilty. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.519 Oh bring it well, I hear. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:44.600 I got to figure out how to handle this, okay, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.599 So maybe y'all can help me. So, you know, we've 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:49.519 been trying to figure out the whole like new what 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.159 is Ramsey gonna do, like sports wise thing or whatever. 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.880 And she tried out she was not she was kind 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:58.640 of over softball, over softball, and you know, just not 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.279 really progressing and then kind of getting scared of the ball. 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:02.760 She doesn't like to admit that, so don't tell her. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.080 I told you, but like you know, she just she's 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:07.720 getting scared of like the fast pitching and you know stuff. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:09.920 So she decided to go back to cheers. She had 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:15.399 done it for like two seasons. Well truthfully two things. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.840 I'll go back to this, but truthfully, she's also a 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.399 little sensitive and you know stuff like that. So but 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.040 she wanted to try cheer again. I'm like, okay, let's 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.000 do it. She's been working really hard, she's been doing 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.440 a great job. But then let like the second practice, 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:30.279 I look over and I'm like, why is she crying? 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:30.800 Oh no? 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:33.120 And I'm like, okay, And for those of you who 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.720 are in like any kind of all star sport world, like, 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:38.280 it's terrible, but it's kind of frowned upon to be 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:40.679 like crying at practice, like they really don't like it, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.720 you know. And you know, I've done this. I've dealt 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.560 with this with any and how many years since Immy 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:46.680 was five's almost ten. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.920 Exactly, So you're probably more heightened to it as well, 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:51.600 because you know the like. 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.600 Yeah, well, I mean Emmy used to get yelled at 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:56.680 for crying like it was you know, Abby Miller style, 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.320 and no, but I mean it was you know, I definitely, yeah, 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.360 they definitely do not like it, you know. So I'm 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.760 like oh dear Jesus, and so, like I have these 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.480 moms like is she okay? And I was like, oh, 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.320 she just got hurt. I'm sure she's fine, like assuming 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.520 she got hurt, right, because I didn't see it whatever. 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:12.880 I's like, yeah, I'm just not gonna look at her. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:16.680 It'll be fine, you know whatever. So we get done 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.880 and this was last week. So then we get done 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.080 and it's like, what's wrong with did you get hurt? Actually, 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.720 another mom master did you get hurt? She was like no, 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.760 I was fine. I was like, okay, So why were 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.040 we crying? She's like, well, I just this makes me 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.680 sound terrible. But she's like, I just you know, I 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.000 just wasn't real confident, and so I was afraid I 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.600 was going to drop her cause she's like a bass 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.520 underneath and learning it. And she's like so I just 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:37.400 like started crying. I was like, oh, okay, all right, 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:41.040 that's fine. But in my mind I'm like really like, okay, 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.720 it's fine. We got this right. So today she's right 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.640 before I come here to podcast, I'm like talking to 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.760 her kind of in a hurry, and I'm like, all right, 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.000 like you rested up? Good for practice tonight you know, 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:51.360 and she's like yeah, and I was like okay. I 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.000 was like, we can't have any crying tonight, and she 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.960 was like okay. And I was like, you know, like 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:57.799 we really can't cry at practice just because we're not 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:02.480 confident and really, you know, and then I laughed and 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.120 I was like I really shouldn't have said that, And 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.720 so I'm struggling with how to like handle it, because 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.000 like they really don't want them crying and being sensitive, 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.560 you know, in those moments. And I did the same thing. 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.320 And then as her mom, I was kind of guilty 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:15.840 of being like because I really don't want her to 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.080 cry at practice, and then I felt terrible because then 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:19.639 I left her and then basically I just told her 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.080 like you can't cry, you know. So it's like I'm 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.600 having this moment of you know, and then I look back. 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:27.000 I'm looking back on like my childhood and being the 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.600 third and everyone telling me I was a cry baby, 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.560 and like so I was like, maybe I really was 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.240 a cry Like maybe I was super sensitive because my 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.720 girls are really sensitive and I know I am sensitive, 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.840 but like this must have been what they were all 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.760 talking about. I must have cried a lot, and you know, 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.000 and so I'm looking at this and I'm like, how 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.440 do I handle it? How do I help strengthen her 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.000 to where she's not so sensitive in these moments and 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.800 that she can be in these sports and not you know, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.840 because it is a detriment to just start crying at 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:57.440 practice because you're not confident what you're doing. I can 0:03:57.480 --> 0:03:59.200 see as a coach where it's like, we can't have 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.960 all the kids just break down crying in the middle 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.840 of practice because they're not confident in something new that 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:06.560 they're learning. But at the same time encouraging her that 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:08.880 her feelings are valid and she has every right to 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:10.960 feel those feelings, you know, and not trying to be 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:13.360 such a hard ass mom, because I do lend myself 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.000 to being that way a little bit. And yeah, so 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.919 that's just where I'm at, and I'm struggling with that. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:19.760 Thank you for sharing. 0:04:19.880 --> 0:04:20.520 Uh huh. 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:23.760 Do you think there's a piece of view that uh 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.800 draws away from the emotion because it's uncomfortable for you too? 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:31.760 Oh yeah, emomption is not the most comfy feeling for you, 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:32.560 right right right? 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:36.039 Yeah, I mean a little bit, like her crying doesn't 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.120 really bother me, Like in a normal situation. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:39.159 Yeah, what is it? Then? 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:42.120 Honestly, a lot of it is just that I know 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.839 because Emmy used to get yelled at for it, how 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:49.480 frowned upon it is in this and I am a 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.919 little bit embarrassed. I hate to admit, and like, I 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:53.800 don't want my kid to be the kid that's crying, 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.800 you know, and I don't like that is a little bit. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:00.240 But also I know it's not ultimately and I know 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:01.880 it's not going to end well for her. I know 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.719 that she's going to end up getting yelled at and 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.719 then that's going to make her even more emotional, and 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.919 that's going to make her either not want to do 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.200 it or not, you know, at backfires. It makes it 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.880 harder on these kids because the coaches are kind of 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.320 hard on them in that sense. 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.479 Yeah, I feel like there's a help, Like obviously there's 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.120 always a healthy balance for like everything. There was a 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.359 season where it didn't happen this year, but the previous 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.080 softball season year, anytime Julie would strike out, she would 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.039 go and she would like start crying, and like for 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.320 me and Mike, we're like, hey, like you're like keep 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.880 supporting your team. You know, you can be upset but 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.440 like sitting there just like full on crying. Yes, also 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.080 like not it's okay to be upset that you struck 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.480 out of course, right, it's maybe embarrassing for you or 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.040 it doesn't feel good, that's okay, But to sit there 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.680 and be crying during a game, like we got to 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.120 snap out of it too, you know, like you got 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.080 to like be there for your team and like support 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.120 your team. And I think that's like we put it 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:58.800 more of a you can have the feeling, but you 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.360 need to support your team as opposed to like you 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.320 can't cry, you know, the cry. But it's more of 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:06.400 like a frame it as a how we did it 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.880 was like a frame to like be there for your 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.039 team because if she's crying, she can't support the person. 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.159 That's you know what I mean. So it's like you 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.320 have to almost be strong but also like have a 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.080 space for like disappointment post. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.480 Right right and talk about it and like be able 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:22.359 to like cry and talk about it later. Yeah, And 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.200 I think that's that is how I will treat this situation. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.279 It's just so it sucks because in this world it's 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:31.640 like both like I am so that when you know, 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.400 I lean myself, like we can't cry right now, Like 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:34.920 we got to get through it, we got to be tough. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.520 But that's you, right. So like here's the thing that 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:39.640 I like struggle with, Like when I say to like 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:41.479 what I would do is I'd be at the rink 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.440 it forward a like I want to be like doing 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.960 it where I'm like where I might see, Okay, maybe 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.640 she's being a little lazy, but that's also where I'm 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.599 she's not little me, right and I'm not like you 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:54.320 know what I mean, like she's she's her and like 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.200 that's maybe a it's not her thing and be like 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.240 she's not going to be me in the sport right how? 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.080 I right right gone? 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:04.560 After it, I also had the epiphany of maybe I 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:05.880 was this way when I was a kid, and I 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.800 don't know it. Maybe that's why, you know, because I'm looking, 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:10.800 I'm like, maybe I was just super sensitive too. When 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:12.600 I PEO will tell you not cry, well, my kids, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.360 my kids, my brothers did all the time, and so 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.800 I was like traumatized by that, and so I think 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:19.440 that's a lot of it too. I'm like, don't cry, 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.800 don't cry, you know, And I'm like, ugh, because they 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.240 are very sensitive and I'm so like there's that part 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.080 of me that's like, ooh, they used to call me 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.880 cry babies, you know, and I'm like all the things, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:31.480 but I don't remember being like super sensitive then, but 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.840 I know I am since you know so anyway, So 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.840 it's like all of that going through my head and 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.720 like her seeing her in therapy one day, like my 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.600 mom told me not to cry, and I'm not allowed 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:42.360 to cry, but I. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:45.560 Still feel like you hold you know that you're you 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.880 have a lack of emotion in some areas that I 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.080 feel like you hold more space for them with emotion 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.520 than yeah, for yourself. Sure, So I do think that 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:55.280 you do a good job of like recognizing, like I'm 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.800 not as like lovey or and affectionate, you still are. 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.160 You're cognizant of it and enough to like be there 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.880 for your kids to like let them have that. But 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.840 within the sport arena, listen, there was a kid that 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.320 cried at every single game, and it's like to be 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:13.560 that parent, I get like if that was my kid, 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.320 I would also be like, oh, yeah, you know. But 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.320 also you know, like even the coaches were getting like, okay, 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.200 they're crying again. You don't know that, no, And like 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.760 what I'm always I'm like, I wonder, what is the 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:31.480 like even deeper rooted, you know, like like every time 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.360 Jace messed up, he puts his hands up and we're 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.640 always like by stopped, like being we're like, no, no, stop, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.280 don't stop doing that, but like you're okay, like yeah, 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:41.080 you messed up, like you don't need to stop, and 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.200 then put your hands up and be like no, nor okay, 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.520 keep playing. You get it, you know. So I think 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:51.680 it's just like they're coming into maybe disappointments, are not 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:52.600 feeling good enough for. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.560 And that's so interesting and how all the kids do 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.960 it differently and handle it differently, and like it's just 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.400 so fascinating because again, and the sports world is just 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.080 so different in that and you know, if you're having 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.400 like if you're crying because you're upset about a friend 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.679 or you know whatever, it's just I feel like I 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.040 treat that so differently than when it's in sports, where 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.760 I'm just like, come on, we got tough enough. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.560 Well, maybe they just split the difference there. 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:17.079 Yeah, I know. I told her the other day, I 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:18.440 was like, you gonna have's tough enough because she cried 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:20.679 in softballsh kind of like she just she's just kind of. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.760 But maybe it's also like not her thing. Well that's 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:23.160 what I saying. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.240 I did, we didn't have to do cheer. We quit 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:27.880 softball to do cheer, and I'm like, baby, do whatever 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.520 you want. But when I asked her if she was 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.679 crying because I said, I actually said maybe cheers not 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:33.480 your thing, but she was like, no, no, no, it's just 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.440 because I wasn't confident and I didn't want to drop her. 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.520 But I think she just tends to just go to 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.920 that that place still, even though she's ten, I think 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.400 she still has that like immaturity that she just still 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.400 goes to that place of crying when she doesn't feel comfortable. 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:06.000 I also think being third, like she's got big shoes 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:06.720 to fill with Emmy. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:08.360 Yeah, she was sensitive too. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:08.760 She cried. 0:10:08.800 --> 0:10:11.120 I mean again, she cried too. You know, she worked really, 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:14.560 really really hard, probably harder than Ramsey does. Not in 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.600 a bad way. She just cares a whole who whole 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:21.800 lot more. But I mean she used to we'd come 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:25.199 off the mat when she was five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:27.760 and if we lost or we didn't do something, well, 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:29.320 whether it was her or not, she was crying and 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.080 she had a coach in her face yelling at her 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:32.360 after to stop crying. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.080 I don't get the thing of stop crying. I don't 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:38.720 like it, but I get I'm saying that two sides 0:10:38.720 --> 0:10:40.439 of my mouth here, because I did tell Julie to 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.520 cry in that moment. Though. It's just like a, hey, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:44.439 I know you're upset. Like I feel like there's a 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.959 better way of saying it than just like stop crying. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.720 it's like right now is not the time. We can 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.559 feel it later, yeah, but like we gotta keep being 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.080 there for the team. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.520 Yeah. I actually had words with that. We're actually friends, 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.280 and I had some words with that coach because I 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.760 was just like, look, we can't control her tears. That's 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.400 one thing as long as she's not doing it on 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:03.080 the mat. And because that will happen, I mean, that 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.360 has happened to people, for it happened to her one time. 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.480 It can't happen on the mat. But once they get off, 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:09.839 if they're disappointed, we can't control your Can you control 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.679 your tears when you're upset? Now that you know we 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:12.840 can't control those, right. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.760 I can to do like a thing where I'm like 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.160 and then I will go into another room and bawl 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.520 my eyes out or whatever. But like, that's where I'm 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.360 just like, if someone's telling me to stop crying, I 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:23.080 will cry. 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.440 More right exactly. Yep, It's so true. And so I 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.480 do fall into that too. I'm like, stop crying and 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.199 they're like, ah, yeah. So you know, I had words 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.360 with that coach because I was like, look, we know 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:34.480 now at this point, she's just going to be crying 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.040 if they didn't do well afterwards, and there's nothing you 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.480 or I can do about it as long as she's 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.360 not doing it on the mat. But anyway, so then 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.160 I saw her do that, and then I had those 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.000 words with her before I left, and I could kind 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:45.240 of see it on her face and it kind of 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:46.840 upset her. And I had to go work and had 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.280 to come here, and I was like, and it's just 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:50.640 stuck with me since I left, and I was like, oh, 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:51.760 I feel like a terrible mom. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.199 Yeah, no, you're not a terrible mom. You're a great mom. 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.040 Everyone who listens knows that. But I think there is 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.240 such a balance of the feelings thing like we just 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:05.720 were possibly going to go to a different daycare. Mm hmm. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:08.280 I'm just gutted because we can't go to the one 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.559 that we fell in love with because he has to 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.040 be fully vaccinated and he's not yet. Listen, we will. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:14.800 I don't know what we're gonna do, but I was 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.760 so upset, like because he needs he's like got half 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.240 and he needs more and they've said no, and so 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:25.800 it's just like, uh so. But one of the places 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.000 that we liked that did a religious exemption or they're 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.080 fine with the delayed schedule, which we are on a 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:36.800 delayed schedule, they had a feelings box. And this is 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.280 where I'm like, I struggled with it because conveniently it 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.480 is very close to where we're at, and I had 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.640 a hard time expressing to Alan, and once I did, 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.480 like he totally we were on the same page. But 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.000 there was like this box that if you have big feelings, 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:58.320 you can go in there and sit there and be safe. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.280 I love that in retrospect, Oh, I want like kids 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.120 to feel safe. And but the comment that she made 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.280 after that was and there's one girl that sits in 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.840 it all day. I don't think that's helpful. And again, 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:15.760 I'm not a child psycholog. I don't know, but I 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.520 also don't think I think we should lean into feelings, 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:21.679 let them express their emotions, but not stay in it 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.360 and then like have it be a crutch because there 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.640 are so many things that I've learned like growing up, 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.480 that I haven't done because or that I did that 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:34.800 honestly was a disservice to me because I relied on 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.040 things to as like a crutch. Mm hmm. Absolutely. And 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:39.360 I'm like, I don't want my child sitting in a 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:43.840 box all day thinking does that? I mean that sounds no. 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.439 But I love that they talk about feelings. I'm not 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.000 talking about feelings, but I'm like to go sit in 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:51.160 there and be surround because they're They're like, you know 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.120 how kids like to hide underneath tables and I'm like, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.440 mine haven't. And that's fine that I mean maybe maybe 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:59.520 that's maybe there's a corner or I don't know. And again, 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.719 I think it's so good to talk about that. They 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.920 want to talk about feelings but the whole like and 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.679 a girl might stay in there the whole day if 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.280 they want. I'm just like, it's a little too much 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.200 into feelings. So it's like I don't I want I 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:12.840 want Roman to cry, and I also want him to 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:15.920 brush it off too, and like if he hurts a booboo, 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.040 like you know, Alan's like you're fine. I'm like, wait, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:19.680 that's not it either, Like we got to get sit 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.120 on their level and be like, hey, buddy, I know 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.760 that hurts, and like you're okay, you know, or do 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:25.360 you need something or do you need a hug? Like 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.640 a lot of times I get on his level and 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:28.600 go do you need a hug? Or can Mommy kiss it? 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.480 Or you know? Yeah, So I think it's like good 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.880 to lean in, but also not to stay there too. 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:35.800 Yeah, like a good happy medium. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.160 Am I like weird for me? No? 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.240 This is you know, I've never heard of this feelings 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.400 box before, So I'm not trying to be judgmental or anything. 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.120 We're not going to go there, We're not We're going 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.680 to drive an extra twenty minutes to the one that 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.720 we've been going to because we're just we don't want 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:52.480 to get you. We'd have to get all the shots 0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.200 all at one time, and we're just not there yet. 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:59.320 Yeah, I just it would I think my hesitation on 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:04.640 the feelings box would be and I'm not I would 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:08.520 worry of that almost being like you said, a crutch 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.840 but also an excuse for a teacher to be able 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:12.520 to put a child in a box all day. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.200 Yeah, this makes me feel's got a lot of feelings, right, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:19.960 you know, so I'm like, if he's being too rambunctious 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:21.920 or to go to the box. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.480 Yeah, I don't know this. I don't know that one 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.000 makes me feel a little consciously, but I think there's 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:28.800 a good happy medium. I think you're right. I think 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:33.000 there's I need to not say don't cry. It's let 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.080 them have that for a moment. But then we've got to, like, 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.760 I don't know, we don't have to sit in those feelings, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.760 like you said all the time. 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:41.200 We can and just going to make it on the team. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.560 Yeah, okay, I'll work on that. I'll let you. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.600 You're doing great and just completely you're so competitive too, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.000 Yeah that like and it's just like you you live 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:53.440 for this, like and it's amazing, you know what I mean. 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:57.200 I definitely have a different attitude on it with Ramsey, Yeah, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.200 because it's not I just know that it's not going 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.200 to be as to your asmy is, and so it's 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.600 kind of refreshing. But also I am just trying to 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:06.240 look out for her and the fact that she is 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:09.080 more sensitive and figuring out a way too tough en 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.120 up a little bit right, and the best way to 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.400 do that because we are growing up and there is 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:16.800 reality that we can't just cry every single time, you know, 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.120 So it's just that happy medium and figuring it out. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:21.680 Well. Listen, we've got a shake up coming. We have 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:26.240 a new season of wind Down coming. Lots happening. You're 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.560 going to get a lot more of us, how excited. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.280 So wind Down is now going to be airing on Sundays, 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:33.920 We're airing four days a week. We're going to have 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:37.640 some incredible guests coming up before that new season airs. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.200 We're going to have Savannah Chrisley, We've got Sasha Farber, 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:46.120 We've got Hannah Brown, We've got another little guest that 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.440 we're gonna sprinkle in there as well. But I think 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.360 one of the episodes that I'm really excited about is 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:53.560 one that I'm going to be doing. Obviously, we'll have 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.800 our girl Chat still, we'll be doing headlines, we'll be 0:16:55.840 --> 0:16:59.440 doing guests, but on one of the days, we're going 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.720 to be doing a podcast with you guys. So I 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.199 want to hear directly from all of you. So if 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:08.440 you find yourself needing advice, just want to vent or talk? 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.840