Speaker 1: Dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
Speaker 2: Cowboys. This is Nick shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot
Speaker 2: com and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are
Speaker 2: Bill Jones, Savannah Humoller, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And here it is Thanksgiving. Yes, time for a stampede line.
Speaker 3: I don't did they play this before the nineteen sixty
Speaker 3: six Thanksgiving Day game sixty don't know that was the
Speaker 3: first one.
Speaker 4: Oh, I think they probably did.
Speaker 3: It was your halftime entertainment. It has gone from stampede
Speaker 3: to dolly.
Speaker 1: I bet it was a marching high school marching bank
Speaker 1: tried or grambling one of them.
Speaker 4: No grambling jams. That was not a jam.
Speaker 3: And here we are getting you ready for your Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker 3: Many things to be thankful for, and one of those
Speaker 3: is the fact we can watch the Cowboys every Thanksgiving Day. True,
Speaker 3: So fifty sixth year that the Cowboys have played on
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day, have only missed a couple since nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 3: That was nineteen seventy five and nineteen seventy seven, back
Speaker 3: when Everson Walls was a Burkner Ram.
Speaker 4: That's right, baby seventy five. I wasn't even playing sports.
Speaker 3: You weren't You were a late bloomer.
Speaker 4: Weren't you? No, I was a.
Speaker 3: We're thankful for your honesty.
Speaker 4: I was not a late bloomer. Well some weather of
Speaker 4: a late bloomer. Yeah, yeah, we have to talk.
Speaker 1: Did you watch the games though?
Speaker 4: I did?
Speaker 3: Of course, of course, yes, of course. In fact, one
Speaker 3: of the great memories would have been the triumph of
Speaker 3: the uncluttered mind. Yes. In nineteen seventy five, Clint Longley
Speaker 3: comes off the bench to Drew Pearson against this Washington team.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, I was just referencing it in
Speaker 1: my mix shots for the website. That one year. We
Speaker 1: were in Georgetown before a Washington game and we started
Speaker 1: chatting up this guy and he was a big Redskins
Speaker 1: fan or Redskins fan, they were the Redskins back then.
Speaker 1: And we started talking. He goes, I'll just tell you this,
Speaker 1: I'm still sick to my stomach about that Clint Longley
Speaker 1: that upset my Thanksgiving Day meal. And this would have
Speaker 1: been somewhere in the nineties, right, so twenty some years
Speaker 1: later or thirty years later, this guy was still sick
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's amazing true, was just that guy.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was always a the moment. He was
Speaker 4: always big in the moment. You know, how does he
Speaker 4: get deep on people as slow as he how faster
Speaker 4: than Drew? And when he always seemed to get he
Speaker 4: would admit that for a touchdown. I mean, he just
Speaker 4: he had that knack. He had the ability to use
Speaker 4: everything that he had, and he didn't have much. He
Speaker 4: didn't have much at all.
Speaker 1: You know, and that's why, you know it was so
Speaker 1: hard for him to get into the Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame because they start looking at stats and they
Speaker 1: should have started counting moments right right right then that's
Speaker 1: worth being preserved. So, Savannah, did you watch Cowboys on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Growing up? I did a chance, I did, Yes.
Speaker 5: Like I can recall a few games that we watched
Speaker 5: on things. I mean, we always had football on in
Speaker 5: the house, so it's just one of those thingsgiving traditions.
Speaker 5: I can't recall any specific games, but I will say
Speaker 5: my parents are big Vikings fans. So they're from Minnesota,
Speaker 5: so they used to.
Speaker 3: Write, so they remember nineteen eighty seven when the Minnesota
Speaker 3: Vikings game the Texas Stadium. It was a classic game.
Speaker 5: So yes, I'm sure that game was.
Speaker 3: Forty four thirty eight Vikings won.
Speaker 4: That was a crazy game. It was Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I was looking at that the other day so much.
Speaker 3: Renfro's game, which Mike Renfro, yes, yep, yes, he had
Speaker 3: a huge game for the Cowboys.
Speaker 4: That's my I call it my favorite white boy time.
Speaker 4: I see it, dude, man, I love I just remember
Speaker 4: watching them practice, and you know, he used to be
Speaker 4: a speech to you know, back in the day. Then
Speaker 4: he messed his knee up, and just watching him run
Speaker 4: on that knee, he would kind of use it to
Speaker 4: his advantage because you know, you think he's running slowly,
Speaker 4: but he's really not. And then he puts these moves
Speaker 4: down with that that leg, and it didn't look like
Speaker 4: it was natural. So he was really, you know, odd,
Speaker 4: an odd route runner. But he was very good. I
Speaker 4: remember against the Patriots, we were in Boston and it
Speaker 4: was fourth and something, and I remember, for some reason,
Speaker 4: the pet the corner back he bites on an out route.
Speaker 4: It's like fourth and twenty. He bites on an out route,
Speaker 4: and I look up and I'm on the sideline. We're
Speaker 4: about to lose the game. I'm on the sideline and
Speaker 4: the ball. Danny threw a ball that was one of
Speaker 4: the prettiest passes I've ever seen in my life. It
Speaker 4: looked like it was coming right at me, and I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, it's such a pretty pass. And I
Speaker 4: looked down the sidelines and there is Renfro running all
Speaker 4: by himself, and that was the prettiest sight I've ever seen,
Speaker 4: was him bringing that ball in. And I remember they
Speaker 4: teased me about it afterwards because I was so excited.
Speaker 4: I was, you know, I gonna do that there. I
Speaker 4: was doing the town and I don't know why. I
Speaker 4: was so geeked up about that moment. So they said
Speaker 4: they clowned me in the offensive room when I did that.
Speaker 4: When you did it, yeah, like the episode was really
Speaker 4: excited about this game.
Speaker 1: You know, I was.
Speaker 3: I was a twenty three seventeen win over the Patriots.
Speaker 3: Over time, it does, since.
Speaker 4: I think that's when Herschel went off off tackle.
Speaker 3: On the left November fifteenth, nineteen eighty seven. That was
Speaker 3: two weeks prior to that Thanksgiving Day game.
Speaker 1: I was at that game.
Speaker 4: I think that was over time. Yeah, because my boy
Speaker 4: Chandler through the block.
Speaker 1: Didn't you go like forty something else sixty yards or
Speaker 1: something for the winning touchdown.
Speaker 3: I remember that it was overtime. What a great memory.
Speaker 3: And it was Herschel's sixty yards for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: If I remember, it was like really cold, Yes it was.
Speaker 4: I think that's the real around the winners because it
Speaker 4: was at the old It was at the old one
Speaker 4: of course Lett Stadium. Yes, one way in, one way out.
Speaker 1: So growing up, I was thankful for the Cowboys because
Speaker 1: they were on television around three or three thirty and
Speaker 1: we have big family Thanksgiving dinner in the basement of
Speaker 1: my aunt Pat's house. And when we finished dinner, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I got to go watch football, and
Speaker 1: my aunts would go, yeah, Mickey's got to watch football.
Speaker 1: So I was excused to go upstairs because there's only
Speaker 1: one TV in the house.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Then the next thing I know, my uncles are coming up.
Speaker 1: They go, well, we got to keep Mickey company and
Speaker 1: they come up and fall asleep.
Speaker 4: Downstairs.
Speaker 1: Yeah they didn't either.
Speaker 3: You would have your turkey dinner but prior to the game, right, that's.
Speaker 5: Going to say before or after eating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the lines after the Lions game is
Speaker 3: for the dinner. It's the background for background, always background,
Speaker 3: and then about two thirty three o'clock everyone collapses on
Speaker 3: the couch or on the floor in front of the TV.
Speaker 3: You get your nap in before the game starts at
Speaker 3: three third. That's why they pushed the kick off back
Speaker 3: to three thirty. Get their nap end and.
Speaker 4: It's all playing around it.
Speaker 1: Now after all these years, it's Thanksgivings just Thursday.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Well that's the thing like for football people, people that
Speaker 3: are involved with football, there's not a holiday really, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know if you're on a team. And that that
Speaker 3: goes for college for most colleges that are playing this weekend.
Speaker 3: Some some seasons are over before Thanksgiving. But I mean
Speaker 3: even for even for teams that are not playing on Thursday,
Speaker 3: Thursday is a heavy practice day around there.
Speaker 1: And you play Friday and then you play Saturday.
Speaker 3: And as far as college.
Speaker 5: Goes, except if you're Ole Miss Mississippi State. You got
Speaker 5: the egg Bowl on And I'm.
Speaker 3: Glad you brought that up because this is actually the
Speaker 3: ten year anniversary of Dak Prescott. One of the great
Speaker 3: Egg Bowl games ever played was Dak. It was ten
Speaker 3: years ago. Three weeks earlier, early November's mom had passed
Speaker 3: away and that and a few days after that he
Speaker 3: played against Texas A and m got hurt and it
Speaker 3: was that one of those like a rock party injury
Speaker 3: where he actually couldn't feel anything in his arm whatever,
Speaker 3: And so he rehabbed it for a couple of weeks whatever,
Speaker 3: And so he was not cleared to play in the
Speaker 3: Egg Bowl against mississ against Mississippi, and so he's on
Speaker 3: the bench throughout the game and Mississippi State falls behind
Speaker 3: and fourth quarter here comes Dak off the bench and
Speaker 3: he not only can throw the football, he you know,
Speaker 3: we not only can run the football, but he can
Speaker 3: throw it to and he scored the winning touchdown to
Speaker 3: beat Ole Miss And that egg Bowl that was ten
Speaker 3: years ago. That was the first time really that Dak
Speaker 3: got on the national map, so to speak. But really
Speaker 3: cool moment in his career.
Speaker 1: So forty years ago was when I covered my last
Speaker 1: egg Bowl, covered three of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was there.
Speaker 1: Miss Mississippi stated was a thing. That was a big.
Speaker 6: Oh aug Mississippi ri The stadiums at that time weren't
Speaker 6: big enough for that big of a game, so they
Speaker 6: played it at Mississippi Memorial Stadium in Jackson.
Speaker 1: We did We did. We had a special section for
Speaker 1: the newspaper just on the egg Bowl, and we would
Speaker 1: write a story about each quarter. There would be a
Speaker 1: story on each quarter in the paper.
Speaker 4: The next day. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I remember one it was a windy day and
Speaker 1: I think Mississippi State was trying to kick the winning
Speaker 1: field goal and it was a short chip shot, but
Speaker 1: it was into the wind. The wind was blowing so
Speaker 1: hard that the ball got to the goal the crossbar
Speaker 1: and it blew it backs. Did you win the game?
Speaker 3: Did you cover the Archie Manning egg Bowl when he played?
Speaker 1: No, Sorry, that would have been just a tad before
Speaker 1: my mind.
Speaker 3: Not far, but a little before. Oh yeah, John four k,
Speaker 3: John four k, Yeah, absolutely, all right, our Mississippi State talk.
Speaker 3: We're to continue in a moment. That was all miss Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ever since, do you have any fond memories of Thanksgiving
Speaker 3: Day games yourself?
Speaker 4: No, not really. I mean, I just it was always
Speaker 4: just hectic, that's all.
Speaker 3: You like me to remind you of some games you played.
Speaker 4: I surge, I was doing. Yeah, I was jotting down.
Speaker 7: I was.
Speaker 4: I was. I was.
Speaker 3: He asked me what I was doing. I studying Everson Walls,
Speaker 3: So I'm studying Thanksgiving Days with Everson starting in nineteen
Speaker 3: eighty one. Did you know, Everson that you won the
Speaker 3: first five Thanksgiving Day games you played in.
Speaker 4: I knew we had a street going. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Eighty one through eighty five you were winner, you walked
Speaker 3: off the field winners. Eighty six through eighty nine, you
Speaker 3: walked off the field losers. You were so you were five.
Speaker 3: And you know what, if you go back through history,
Speaker 3: you'll find that usually when the Cowboys have a good team,
Speaker 3: they win on Thanksgiving Day, and when they're not so good,
Speaker 3: they lose on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: That's what my research taught me. When everybody said, well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have an unfair advantage on Thanksgiving, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and when they were bad, it wasn't unfair, right, exactly
Speaker 1: what Bill said.
Speaker 3: You had two picks, by the way, in your second
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving Day game against Cleveland in nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Now, Ricky, feature when you finished with seven right picks
Speaker 1: that year? Seven rookie year.
Speaker 3: It was eighty two.
Speaker 1: It's a short and nine games.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, they would have had.
Speaker 1: Has anybody had seven other than digs?
Speaker 4: Since you mean in the NFL, no for the the Cowboys. No, no,
Speaker 4: dig is the only one that got that close.
Speaker 1: So eleven and seven, yeah, and that's nobody with more.
Speaker 1: And right now Bland has, by the way.
Speaker 3: The NFC Defensive Player of the Week. Deron, Yeah, we
Speaker 3: love that.
Speaker 1: Six six this year? Is that right?
Speaker 3: Four?
Speaker 5: He does have six this year?
Speaker 1: Yes, six, right?
Speaker 3: And four return for return.
Speaker 1: Man, he's after you run, He's after.
Speaker 4: He could make a run. What's in here talking? He
Speaker 4: could make a run. That would be kind of cool.
Speaker 4: He got two guys coming after me.
Speaker 1: So all the all the top games he's had. He
Speaker 1: had to tie the NFL single season record for interception
Speaker 1: returns for a touchdown to be named Defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Week. Otherwise it was like, oh, well.
Speaker 4: I think they go by reputation. You think yeah, I mean, well.
Speaker 3: It's working out real well for him if they go
Speaker 3: by reputation on All Pro teams and so forth. He's
Speaker 3: now established himself that everyone I can't remember who Greg Olson,
Speaker 3: I guess was doing the game. I mean he put
Speaker 3: him on the All Pro team as soon as he
Speaker 3: made it to the end zone.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he picks one on Thanksgiving when everybody's watching.
Speaker 4: It'd be like Diggs all over again. Yeah, right now,
Speaker 4: this this would be great because you know, Bland is
Speaker 4: one of those guys that we needed to step up
Speaker 4: right our secondary. You know, when we're kind of delicate
Speaker 4: in the NFL these days, you missed one particular player,
Speaker 4: then it's like a domino effect. You know, it just
Speaker 4: seems to affect everyone. If we would have had problems
Speaker 4: in the secondary and Bland would have been part of
Speaker 4: those problems, then we would have been looking at it
Speaker 4: in totally totally different season. Right now, right you go,
Speaker 4: and now you've got you know, Bland to save in
Speaker 4: the day. You know, he's a guy that regardless of
Speaker 4: our inconsistencies for you know, since Diggs got hurt, Bland
Speaker 4: is one of those guys that has been consistent. It's
Speaker 4: kind of hard to believe that when we're looking at
Speaker 4: jay Ron was being the guy first and Donovan was
Speaker 4: really playing well I'm talking about last year, but Bland
Speaker 4: is the one to me this year that's showing what
Speaker 4: real pro is all about.
Speaker 1: And think about it. He was starting in the slot
Speaker 1: to start the season and then when that happened, it's
Speaker 1: like okay, you got to go outside.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well see That's interesting because you know, that's kind
Speaker 4: of way I thought. You know, it doesn't matter what side,
Speaker 4: it just really does in and out. You know, he's
Speaker 4: a player, and that's what I like about him. You
Speaker 4: don't really get most veterans don't really get that kind
Speaker 4: of ability early on in their career. I know I
Speaker 4: had to play the slot some, but mostly I was outside.
Speaker 4: I didn't start really playing the slot on third down
Speaker 4: when I was in New York. Yeah. It take me
Speaker 4: nine years, and I wasn't that comfortable there because it's
Speaker 4: a reposition. But you know, my experience paid off. He
Speaker 4: really doesn't have that much experience, and yet here he is.
Speaker 4: He can play any side. That's a luxury to play
Speaker 4: any particular position in that second day, whether it's the slot,
Speaker 4: left or right.
Speaker 5: So they did recognize him in the team meeting this
Speaker 5: week after last Sunday's game, and then coach McCarthy said
Speaker 5: in the press conference on Monday, I don't know why
Speaker 5: we keep talking about him as a surprise. He's just
Speaker 5: when he gets on the field. I think he switches
Speaker 5: that flip and and he's just a different person on
Speaker 5: the field. When we talked to him in the locker room.
Speaker 5: He's a little more shy and timid, but I think
Speaker 5: when he gets out there, he's just he's ready to go.
Speaker 4: He played wide receiver exactly.
Speaker 1: See there's the key, that wide receiver personality.
Speaker 4: Man, I mean that's all I did in high school.
Speaker 3: I don't That's what I was about to ask you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: at Bergner, you played wide.
Speaker 4: Receiver, wide receiver. I've called the touchdown. I wasn't starting.
Speaker 4: I called touchdown first first.
Speaker 3: Uh got troubled past.
Speaker 4: No, that was not my brother, mister Haas you know,
Speaker 4: he was a returning senior. He's slower than men the time.
Speaker 3: Those coaches that will play and the.
Speaker 4: Moms that bring the cupcakes. My mom just didn't bring
Speaker 4: cupcakes to the meetings. That's all that was.
Speaker 8: So we ended up, Uh you know, those boots come on.
Speaker 8: You know how that goes, man, how that goes? My
Speaker 8: mom was working too hard, so you got time to
Speaker 8: make no cupcakes. So you know we sat there and
Speaker 8: uh what you saw was uh, the the slower.
Speaker 4: They liked him because his name was Hots. They liked
Speaker 4: him because he was, uh just one of those veterans
Speaker 4: that you could depend on. But every time I came
Speaker 4: in the game. They knew I was going to be
Speaker 4: the guy to get the ball. You see. So I
Speaker 4: come in the game, there's number eighty right here washing
Speaker 4: the reverse. He's gonna go for that. They already knew
Speaker 4: what I was running, So every time I came in
Speaker 4: the game, they knew we were trying to score.
Speaker 3: So when did you convert the cornerback?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: At Gramblin. I had to. I had to.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let me play. I couldn't find the spot
Speaker 4: anywhere else. I came as a safety, and after playing
Speaker 4: so much one on one, I mean that's just you know,
Speaker 4: that's a DB's thing, you know, one on one practice,
Speaker 4: that's when you show what kind of man you are.
Speaker 4: And eventually I got pretty good at it. So I
Speaker 4: was really I came as a safety, but you know, I'm.
Speaker 3: Did they get take forty times? And the and the
Speaker 3: fast guys play wide receiver and the slower guys played dB?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, that's not how it went. No no.
Speaker 4: But we would have big time races before practice. You know,
Speaker 4: our I was conditioning was before so we raced each
Speaker 4: other before practice, and I actually got a little faster,
Speaker 4: a little faster, but not as fast as he did.
Speaker 3: Your Eddie Robinson did the conditioning before practice.
Speaker 4: We stretched, we stretched, we do calistenics, then we run,
Speaker 4: then we do the bag work, and then we do
Speaker 4: one on one. We are exhausted by half of practice. Exhausted.
Speaker 4: So he always said, like he got it from Vince
Speaker 4: LOMBARDA fatigue makes corwards of us. All he got there
Speaker 4: from Vince. And he used to say it all the time.
Speaker 1: They'd let you race backpedaling. They didn't, but if they could,
Speaker 1: you could want that.
Speaker 4: Even in elementary school, I can run back.
Speaker 10: Why, I just like he was second nature.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go forward, like damn the way up there.
Speaker 3: All right, we're just getting started on a Thanksgiving edition
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Speaker 3: Kay apparently ever since, and Mickey have an appearance to
Speaker 3: make after the show. We do tell us about this.
Speaker 1: Our sports Tours do is they do a reception the
Speaker 1: day before the game. It's usually a Saturday, and they
Speaker 1: do it from about twelve thirty to two three o'clock.
Speaker 1: And Everson I are on stage at one fifteen today
Speaker 1: doing a Q and a.
Speaker 3: Can anybody show up?
Speaker 1: No, No, unless you're unless you're a friend, of ours, right.
Speaker 3: Okay, Savannah, you say, yeah, well that rules us out.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I might be Savannah. She would ask
Speaker 1: nice questions.
Speaker 3: Uh, Savannah, So that text line is not doing so
Speaker 3: hot on this holiday eve. It is not. Okay, I've
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Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that. That was James, James.
Speaker 1: Don't worry.
Speaker 5: We're stepping in here real soon.
Speaker 4: I was so happy when she came back. I had
Speaker 4: Twitter was That's.
Speaker 3: What everyways, Twitter is thankful for Savannah. That's right. I'm
Speaker 3: not going anywhere, guys, that's right, all right, you got
Speaker 3: any news for us? Mickey, got anything you wanted to
Speaker 3: get us? Posted on Shack Leonard a cowboy.
Speaker 1: Yet I got to ask that question. I don't even
Speaker 1: know the guy had been released. Does he have to
Speaker 1: go through waves?
Speaker 3: He does after the trade deadline. Everybody's got to go
Speaker 3: through waivers after that.
Speaker 1: I can't do any brother law, like release something for
Speaker 1: somebody else. You know you could, but you have to
Speaker 1: go through waivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if that's the way you would work a
Speaker 3: trade Okay. If somebody really wanted a player, okay, and
Speaker 3: and you don't work out a trade, but you but
Speaker 3: that team. Let's say the Colts wanted to get rid
Speaker 3: of the salary. That's whatever that's left his yea, his
Speaker 3: salary for this season. That's the way a team could
Speaker 3: then claim him and then they on the hook for
Speaker 3: the contract whatever. If there was a demand. But there's
Speaker 3: not demand for shack lender because of his he's going
Speaker 3: to clear waiver, yes, I think so. In fact, he
Speaker 3: may have.
Speaker 1: Already, And if you signed him, you'd sign him to
Speaker 1: the practice squad.
Speaker 4: Now what team did they get cut from Colts?
Speaker 3: Four time All Pro, first four years in the league.
Speaker 3: He only played three games last year. He's had a
Speaker 3: couple of back surgeries and he has he is healthy
Speaker 3: this year, but has played in nine games. As I hear,
Speaker 3: Franklin has actually moved ahead of him, and Franklin missed
Speaker 3: a game and another player got snaps in placement. He
Speaker 3: was apparently told on Monday that he was going to
Speaker 3: be inactive. I think that's right, and then he was
Speaker 3: released on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So Bill, like a good lawyer, knew the answer to
Speaker 1: his question before.
Speaker 4: He asked, right said no, no, no, he's not a cowboy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, I'm saying you asked if you want him, and
Speaker 1: I was like, there's a clear waiver, and no, I
Speaker 1: mean he might clear, but you would put him on
Speaker 1: the practice squad, right, You're not picking up that contract.
Speaker 3: No, no, And so the Colts are on the hook
Speaker 3: for what's left now he once he clears waivers, he
Speaker 3: becomes a free agent.
Speaker 1: And then somebody might sign him to a practice squad.
Speaker 1: And you get three elevations you're getting near the end
Speaker 1: of the season.
Speaker 4: That's crazy. You're talking about the hell of a linebacker
Speaker 4: when went healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just goes to show because he was twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: second round draft pick, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4: Defense, uh huh and.
Speaker 1: So vander ushers year twenty eighteen yep, right.
Speaker 12: So, and he came out of the way HBCU right yep,
Speaker 12: South Carolina State. And I mean, just an amazing start
Speaker 12: to his guy. I mean, he was on a Hall
Speaker 12: of Fame.
Speaker 3: Pace the first four years of his career and then
Speaker 3: has the backs that meant that linebacker position and the
Speaker 3: running backers. But you're the that's what's so amazing about
Speaker 3: a guy like Bobby Wagner that he's played for so
Speaker 3: long and been healthy for so long in this because
Speaker 3: that position you get hurt.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: Ken Norton junior. You know, he second round pick. He struggled,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, by ninety one he flourished, right.
Speaker 1: And then in ninety three he tore his bicep and
Speaker 1: the thing kind of it tore from the elbow and
Speaker 1: kind of rolled up. I remember that, remember that, And
Speaker 1: they rolled it back down and would tape it up
Speaker 1: so he could play that year and ends up I
Speaker 1: believe he got in the Pro Bowl that year and
Speaker 1: end up next year as free agency and he gets
Speaker 1: a big contract from San Francisco with a signing bonus
Speaker 1: of all things, because they didn't think they should have
Speaker 1: signing bonus.
Speaker 4: He was such a surprise, you know, we didn't think
Speaker 4: we had much from him.
Speaker 1: Right, And he did his first couple of years, and
Speaker 1: he got injured.
Speaker 4: And they had a nickname for him. I can't remember
Speaker 4: what it was, but.
Speaker 1: I mean he was only known for his father being
Speaker 1: a heavyweight champion of the world champion. Yeah uh, and
Speaker 1: then they yeah, and then they then.
Speaker 4: He flourished how many Super Bowl rings for.
Speaker 3: Here?
Speaker 1: And one was just one one with San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Right, that's not a bad career for somebody who we
Speaker 4: thought was a bus right, Yeah, early on, early on,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 1: So I was gonna give you a quick injury update.
Speaker 1: Rigo Dodo has been d n ped the last two
Speaker 1: days and McCarthy said, uh, today he'll get as he's
Speaker 1: he's a get his needed mode with the ankle. I
Speaker 1: think they're just trying to push him to Thursday and
Speaker 1: hope that he can play, so they probably make that decision.
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup had a personal family deal on Monday and Tuesday,
Speaker 1: but he got back, so he's good to go. Jay
Speaker 1: Ron Curse really is the only guy. Mike said, Uh,
Speaker 1: if he's not available today, that speaks for itself tomorrow problem.
Speaker 1: And it happened in the game because I think.
Speaker 3: Towards at the end one he didn't have as many snaps.
Speaker 1: Janie Thomas came in and played that spot, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like cd uh will be limited today. It said
Speaker 1: he practiced fully yesterday. They didn't put the pads on,
Speaker 1: but that Jerry gave him a thumbs up the doctor.
Speaker 1: Jerry gave a thumb the other day, so I think
Speaker 1: they feel confident he'll be able to go. And then
Speaker 1: Tyron's got a rest day yesterday and today mostly they
Speaker 1: were doing seven on seven, so so from a health standpoint,
Speaker 1: they should be in pretty good shape.
Speaker 3: One other note on Shaq Leonard. There will be a
Speaker 3: team that will pick him up right, and it sounds
Speaker 3: like it sounds like he would be one of someone
Speaker 3: like the Eagles or the forty nine ers Eagle. You know,
Speaker 3: the Eagles putting the Kobe Dean on injured reserve, and
Speaker 3: of course they obviously the Cowboys with Layton's injury, but
Speaker 3: they love what they've seen so far out of throughout well,
Speaker 3: he didn't play much the last game, but they love
Speaker 3: what what's you know Mark east Bell has been doing,
Speaker 3: you know with the mown Clark and so it would
Speaker 3: be only for depth purposes.
Speaker 1: Only had seven defensive snaps.
Speaker 3: So it may be it may be worth Shaq Leonard's
Speaker 3: self interest to wait a little bit and see, you
Speaker 3: know where the needs come.
Speaker 1: Right when you ask that question, you got to say, okay,
Speaker 1: now who am I cutting right? And they had a
Speaker 1: hard enough and then I'm getting Evans.
Speaker 3: Right, and then and then even just for a guy
Speaker 3: who and this is what the cults are running into. Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe he's not performing all pro status, they're paying him
Speaker 3: a whole lot of money. I think it was a
Speaker 3: ninety eight million dollar contract and he's now three years
Speaker 3: into that and they're probably looking at cutting him next year.
Speaker 3: And they've got other linebackers. And so with a player
Speaker 3: like that who's accustomed to playing snaps, how happy is
Speaker 3: he going to be? And what does that do with
Speaker 3: the chemistry of the locker room if he's not getting snaps, you.
Speaker 4: Know, if you bring him there, you got to give
Speaker 4: him snaps. Right, he's that guy. He's a high volume player, right,
Speaker 4: you know, very very high energy.
Speaker 3: Right, That's why you got to have a spot for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a leader, he's a leader. He was the
Speaker 4: leader of that defense too.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I guess if they were winning this year, it would
Speaker 4: be a total difference. Well that's the other thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Colts another five hundred team or whatever
Speaker 3: they are right now, So there's everybody, everybody get five
Speaker 3: hundred still in the mix. But you got to look
Speaker 3: at your team realistically, and.
Speaker 1: So yeah, suddenly the Cowboys at seven to three. There's
Speaker 1: only two teams basically with a better record.
Speaker 3: Right, you can do the math on this stuff. And
Speaker 3: if the Cowboys win tomorrow and they win against Seattle,
Speaker 3: they could be in a clinch playoff spot situation even
Speaker 3: before Philadelphia comes to town on December ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah for the.
Speaker 3: Wild when you got seven teams that make the playoffs, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean there's a there's a widening gap between the
Speaker 3: top four teams basically and everybody else. Now, Seattle's in
Speaker 3: there too, but Seattle hadn't been playing as well.
Speaker 4: Later.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my way, and they got to play San
Speaker 3: Francisco tomorrow night. So they're looking at sex and five
Speaker 3: and then coming here next Thursday.
Speaker 1: That's my required four game winning strike heading into the Eagles.
Speaker 3: Okay, And so what concerns you about this Washington team
Speaker 3: coming in? They have played well against the Eagles three
Speaker 3: weeks ago in a thirty eight thirty one game.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do that now or after the break.
Speaker 3: Let's do it after the break, and then we got
Speaker 3: our picks to click, We got our picks to win,
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Speaker 3: A lot of people out there tomorrow, I mean Friday
Speaker 3: night and Saturday.
Speaker 5: Night for that, they pack it out, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: So we got a bunch to get to. But I
Speaker 1: think we'd be remiss if we didn't remember the sixtieth
Speaker 1: marking of the assassination of John Kennedy in downtown Dallas today.
Speaker 1: As a matter of.
Speaker 4: Fact, some people came in town. They wanted to go
Speaker 4: down there. I'm like, I've never been there, No way,
Speaker 4: I've never been there.
Speaker 3: I've never been there.
Speaker 10: Like a memorial type of that.
Speaker 1: I can take a tour. You can take the sixth
Speaker 1: the School Depository and then there's a marking on the
Speaker 1: street where initially he got shot and uh. And then
Speaker 1: there's people there selling stuff all the time, right old
Speaker 1: newspapers that they they're not old newspapers, but they make
Speaker 1: the tourists think they are.
Speaker 4: Have you and you said no? And we've been here
Speaker 4: all our lives.
Speaker 3: I always think about it when I drive by there.
Speaker 3: I'm driven by there in a long.
Speaker 1: Time, but I used to well, I mean when I
Speaker 1: work downtown at the paper, so I kind of go
Speaker 1: by there quite a bit. And I've gone like two
Speaker 1: or three times.
Speaker 4: It's like the Statue of Liberty. A lot of New
Speaker 4: Yorker's never really been there.
Speaker 1: I've been there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I lived there, and I didn't go there.
Speaker 3: You know what, when we lived in San Antonio, we
Speaker 3: never went down the river Walk. The only time we
Speaker 3: went down the river walk, which there was somebody visited.
Speaker 3: They want to go down the riverwalk.
Speaker 4: They just came to town. I went against I want
Speaker 4: to go. I'm kidding, what.
Speaker 1: There nothing against the river. I haven't missed it that
Speaker 1: The museum is really good. And I always tell people
Speaker 1: if if you have readers or whatever, you better bring
Speaker 1: your glasses because there's a lot to read. But it's
Speaker 1: really good, It really is.
Speaker 3: And uh, okay, So Mickey, do you remember that day?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I was in fifth grade.
Speaker 3: We were too young.
Speaker 1: You guys were just babies, right, I was important. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even going to go there.
Speaker 4: Nobody else.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, because we were in fifth
Speaker 1: grade and we were the oldest in the elementary school.
Speaker 1: We got to go in the audio visual room and
Speaker 1: watch it on television when the news came to.
Speaker 4: The audio visual audio as roll the TV the TV.
Speaker 3: It was one of those.
Speaker 13: It was on one of those rolling rolling the different.
Speaker 3: Classes they have TV though.
Speaker 1: Yes, black and white and black and white, you know,
Speaker 1: that was that might have been. That might have been
Speaker 1: the first day I saw adults cry. The teachers were
Speaker 1: because I don't think, well they weren't. My grandparents were still.
Speaker 1: So really yeah, it was the first time. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I.
Speaker 4: Knew this was serious, serious stufah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we were there when Walter krott Kite came
Speaker 1: on and announced that he had passed away. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: And it was a stigma that Dallas had to live
Speaker 1: with until until the Cowboys got good. If you think
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: No, they still hold it against us.
Speaker 1: I remember the research on that they had to go
Speaker 1: to Cleveland to play the next game, and I remember
Speaker 1: the guys telling me that when they got to there
Speaker 1: and got off the bus at the hotel, usually the
Speaker 1: bell hops would help with the luggage. They got ignored. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they know, we're not taking your stuff up. And they
Speaker 1: were told if you go to dinner outside the hotel,
Speaker 1: make you sure you.
Speaker 4: Go in a group.
Speaker 1: And one of the memories the guys had was when
Speaker 1: they got to the stadium, there were they were like
Speaker 1: sniper well policemen up on the top of the stadium
Speaker 1: with rifles just in case somebody was trying to pull
Speaker 1: something off.
Speaker 4: They thought the Russians would.
Speaker 1: Come probably yeah they did. Yeah, I remember us looking
Speaker 1: up in the sky and watching planes if they were
Speaker 1: coming by. The other thing that happened is when they
Speaker 1: did the player introductions, when they used to run out there,
Speaker 1: no one wanted to be the first want to run
Speaker 1: out uh, And it was like no you go, no,
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 3: Well there shouldn't have been games played that weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, yeah, we are different people now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I just thought that was worth mentioned sixty
Speaker 1: years ago. That's a easy.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I can't remember how I set up this segment.
Speaker 1: You went to Everson and said, who's your pick to click?
Speaker 1: What's the score? That I don't know. If we have
Speaker 1: a podkick pick, we do it.
Speaker 3: What's the score?
Speaker 1: What's the score?
Speaker 4: Always have the.
Speaker 3: Pod pick is gonna be what picked your score?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I got mine. Okay, Cowboys gonna win.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go straight to the punchline. Cowboy's gonna win.
Speaker 4: I think thirty five to twenty only because I think
Speaker 4: Howell is one of those guys. He's just gonna keep
Speaker 4: chunking and chunking and chunking and chunking until until something breaks.
Speaker 4: And you know, they've got decent wide receivers there, so
Speaker 4: our offense should be able to control everything. Uh, if
Speaker 4: their dbs can't cover our wide receivers, then it's over
Speaker 4: from the beginning. Also, my pick to click would be
Speaker 4: mister Pollard. I'm looking at him getting over one hundred
Speaker 4: yards from scrimmage.
Speaker 3: Okay, not rushing, not rushing, rushing and.
Speaker 4: Receiving rushing and the receiver no no returns, none of that,
Speaker 4: simply on standard downs first or.
Speaker 1: Third over one hundred over one hundred.
Speaker 5: Let's do it.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Okay, sus Nick.
Speaker 5: All right, we're going with the Cowboys winning forty to fourteen.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 5: I think let's go big or go home this week.
Speaker 3: Forty a game at home anyway, so.
Speaker 5: You're right on target for this will be thirteen consecutive
Speaker 5: wins at home if we win tomorrow. So I like that.
Speaker 5: I think they will score many points. And I think
Speaker 5: my click to pick is going to be Cavante.
Speaker 1: Turpin good one.
Speaker 5: I have a prediction of him running one in for
Speaker 5: the touchdown, So let's go with that, all right.
Speaker 3: Running one in for the touchdowns that like a punt
Speaker 3: return an we want to punt return touchdow.
Speaker 4: Okay, that doesn't get Specy teams special teams touchdown?
Speaker 1: Then okay, gotch I she had just left it as
Speaker 1: running one in for a touchdown could be a pass,
Speaker 1: it could be an end of out.
Speaker 5: But now now that's written down, so we'll see if
Speaker 5: I get back.
Speaker 4: Stick with it, like you said last time, I'm sticking with.
Speaker 1: It, all right. Heay, Mickey, I've got the Cowboys winning
Speaker 1: thirty to seventeen.
Speaker 3: Thirteen point win.
Speaker 1: Thirteen point win because these Thanksgiving games are hard. They're
Speaker 1: just hard, and I pick to click since I can't
Speaker 1: take Micah. Nope, I am going to take DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: with multiple sacks because this quarterback has been sacked more
Speaker 1: times than anybody in the NFL so far. Sam Howell
Speaker 1: has been set and he's also thrown. Get this, He's
Speaker 1: attempted more passes than anybody, completed more passes than anybody,
Speaker 1: and has more passing yards than anybody. But he's been
Speaker 1: sacked fifty one times.
Speaker 4: Is that more than anyone? Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, and it's thirteen more than the second guy. So
Speaker 1: I will take DeMarcus Lawrence with multiple sack performance.
Speaker 4: Okay, I like it. I like it all right.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys have you talk about it's tough to win
Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Day. The Cowboys have put up fifty one
Speaker 3: points once before on Thanksgiving Day. That was in nineteen eighty,
Speaker 3: a fifty one to seven win over the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 3: None of us remember that nineteen eighty is not that
Speaker 3: far back, the year before Everson became a Cowboy, all right,
Speaker 3: So I am going to go This will be the
Speaker 3: seventh time this season the Cowboys have won a game
Speaker 3: by twenty or more points. And since the record so
Speaker 3: far as fifty one, I'm going with fifty two to
Speaker 3: twenty Cowboys over the Commanders, Thank you ever soon. I
Speaker 3: think that Sam Howe is going to throw it around
Speaker 3: a lot, but fifty one to twenty is where I'm going.
Speaker 3: And Wow, where do I go with the I mean
Speaker 3: I was thinking Cavante Turpin, that was my original I
Speaker 3: was thinking Tony Pollard, I'm going to go with Marquise Bell.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you're going, yeah, second choice.
Speaker 3: Mark East Bell is going to be my pick to click.
Speaker 1: What about Sam? Sam Williams, Sam Williams, Sam and Sam?
Speaker 3: Right, Oh, there you go.
Speaker 4: So what do you think Bell's going to do? I
Speaker 4: mean what I think I think.
Speaker 3: I think he will wind up at the end zone.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure touchdown.
Speaker 3: A defensive touchdown Marquise Bell. And I'm not sure if
Speaker 3: it's going to be an interception return or a fumble return.
Speaker 3: But I think that this Washington team is prone to
Speaker 3: the coughing up the football.
Speaker 4: If I recall, yeah, the more chances well he could
Speaker 4: get it.
Speaker 3: Last week, it didn't matter whether they're running with the
Speaker 3: ball or throwing them with the ball. They were coughing
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: So six times, right, yep?
Speaker 3: Six six giveaways. Okay, what a great football weekend.
Speaker 1: This is what after that?
Speaker 3: I mean you got well, no.
Speaker 4: Let's okay.
Speaker 3: Third, you got the Packers and the Lions, and then
Speaker 3: while we eat turkey dinner, and then we got the
Speaker 3: Cowboys and the Commanders, and then tomorrow night, Tomorrow night,
Speaker 3: San Francisco and Seattle, and then you got the egg Boat.
Speaker 3: You can flip over and watch a little bit of
Speaker 3: the egg Bowl too, and then the college football on Friday, Mickey,
Speaker 3: any games you care about?
Speaker 1: I think Missouri is at Arkansas.
Speaker 3: That's a CBS game. In the afternoon, the slate starts
Speaker 3: though with TCU in Oklahoma at eleven okay, and then
Speaker 3: you got Texas Tech in Texas. It's six thirty long.
Speaker 3: Horns need a win to clinch a spot in the
Speaker 3: Big twelve Championship game Austin. It's in Austin. Oregon State
Speaker 3: and Oregon play that night. Also Saturday at eleven am,
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Michigan, right number two against number three they.
Speaker 1: Always do this weekend.
Speaker 3: That's at eleven A. That's college football for you.
Speaker 1: Probably was back in college football because the college game
Speaker 1: of the season right now.
Speaker 4: No, no, but they're having coffee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's why Texas and Oklahoma are getting out
Speaker 3: of this conference go to the SEC because they're having
Speaker 3: to play at eleven am every week. But college football
Speaker 3: games last so long. You know, the NFL keeps it
Speaker 3: to a three hour window, so you can start your
Speaker 3: game at noon. You got another game at three and
Speaker 3: then what the college football They go three and a
Speaker 3: half four hours, so you got to start at eleven
Speaker 3: am to get all the games in.
Speaker 1: So halftime is always not all not only that the
Speaker 1: Stars play Vegas tonight tonight, you have duty there.
Speaker 5: Yes, I will be there.
Speaker 4: I was looking for that last night. I was looking
Speaker 4: for that last night's tonight. Yes, tonight.
Speaker 1: And it's National TV, by the way, so everybody could
Speaker 1: watch it.
Speaker 3: And by the way, there's also high school football playoffs,
Speaker 3: third round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Starting Friday, Friday, Saturday Sports Weekend.
Speaker 4: You missed one.
Speaker 1: The Mavericks at the Lakers tonight. The Stars have Calgary
Speaker 1: on Friday, so we're talking a lot to watch and
Speaker 1: pay attention on Saturday.
Speaker 4: Also, I can't believe Bill miss you got the freaking
Speaker 4: buyou Classic Bill.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: Let me get to Saturday. It was only to the
Speaker 3: eleven AM game.
Speaker 4: It's not down there. It's not down there. It's the
Speaker 4: fiftieth anniversary of the Bayo Class.
Speaker 3: Really down there. You're going down there, all.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm gonna be the m C of the banquets. Really,
Speaker 4: come on, man, we're gonna have fun.
Speaker 13: Where do they have that at It's at the the stadium,
Speaker 13: you know the Hyatt right, that's next to the super Stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 13: is that Friday night that's launching for a Friday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Okay, and it wins the game.
Speaker 12: The game is Sunday, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, three o'clock, three
Speaker 12: o'clock on what channel, NBC. NBC's got the game.
Speaker 4: NBC got the got it back, Baby, we got it back.
Speaker 4: You know, the pandemic brought black people back.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 3: And then, uh, but on Saturday Night at the Star
Speaker 3: and Frisco, Jason Whitten returns to the start in first school.
Speaker 3: His Liberty Christian Warriors play in the TAPS Division two
Speaker 3: State semi Fund against Fort Worth All Saints Episcopal. It's
Speaker 3: at the Star in Frisco and by the way, I've
Speaker 3: got a feature on the Witten family that airs on
Speaker 3: CBS just prior to the game tomorrow. We've got an
Speaker 3: hour long special and it'll are about two forty five
Speaker 3: or so. Uh So check that out.
Speaker 1: When's the pregame show? Start?
Speaker 3: Pregame show? It starts at two, the NFL to Day's
Speaker 3: at three, and then the game at three thirty. Okay,
Speaker 3: So there you go, and.
Speaker 1: You got to work all weekend.
Speaker 3: I am not. Oh, I'm off about that.
Speaker 10: We're talking about to watch all the sports.
Speaker 4: You man, you shouldn't have to worry about it that.
Speaker 3: I'm actually I'll be at the game. We're taping the
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy Show after the.
Speaker 1: Game, I understand. So anyway, few days and I need
Speaker 1: to get right.
Speaker 3: That's right, Okay. We will chat at you on Monday
Speaker 3: after this football feast.
Speaker 4: Go Cowboys.
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