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Speaker 7: they have done is is that they've hardened up their airfields,

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Speaker 7: their other critical defense infrastructure in their western part of

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Speaker 7: the country. They've moved certain assets out of range of

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Speaker 7: these weapons, and so again it's not going to really

437
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Speaker 7: impact the battlefield. But what it could do is is

438
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Speaker 7: you could have the Ukrainians do something like they did

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Speaker 7: during Operation Spider Web and attach strategic nuclear targets or

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Speaker 7: civilian targets which invite more Russian escalation. And there's a

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Speaker 7: risk that the Russians put that on.

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Speaker 3: When you say hang out, when you say when you say,

443
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Speaker 3: when you say reckless, is it reckless for us? I

444
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Speaker 3: mean their backs into the wall. They're getting pounded every look.

445
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Speaker 3: We are being adamantly opposed to this war from the

446
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Speaker 3: evening before it started, and we said what was going

447
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Speaker 3: to happen? But the valor encourage of the Ukrainian people,

448
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Speaker 3: who Mersheimer and we agree of being led down the

449
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Speaker 3: Primrose path, their backs into the wall. They keep getting

450
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Speaker 3: pounded like this, right, and and now they start an

451
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Speaker 3: offensive which I think will head to Odessa, but they'll

452
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Speaker 3: try to go up to the line of where the

453
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Speaker 3: most they can take, you know, a third of Ukraine

454
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Speaker 3: or more. You can't. How are we going to sit here?

455
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Speaker 3: Because the media is going to be all into a

456
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Speaker 3: besieged Ukraine is going to strike back, and those brothers

457
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Speaker 3: have proven they did something Curtis wal May only fantasized about.

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Speaker 3: These people are very innovative, they're very the age, they're

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Speaker 3: very bold. Right, they get hit Moscow and something. This

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Speaker 3: is my point, folks, We're on the precipice of something

461
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Speaker 3: that's not in our control. We're about to arm people

462
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Speaker 3: right now. We have literally no control over them. We

463
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Speaker 3: think we have control them, we don't have a control

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Speaker 3: of them. Spiderweb showed you that when they went in

465
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Speaker 3: and took out a third. They try to take out

466
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Speaker 3: a third of the strategic triad of the Russians, and

467
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Speaker 3: the Russians not just have long memories. Look how they fight.

468
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Speaker 3: It's a six hundred and seventy five thousand man conscript

469
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Speaker 3: army put together and quite frankly, puting these guys to KGB.

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Speaker 3: They don't care how many Russians die. Look at World

471
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Speaker 3: War two, World War One and World War two. When

472
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Speaker 3: they grind, they grind, right, it's from Mother Russia and

473
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Speaker 3: they're going to grind this. And now we've got somebody

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Speaker 3: they're back against the wall that is capable of anything,

475
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Speaker 3: and we're giving them in this weapons package. If you

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Speaker 3: give these type of offensive capabilities, regardless of who the

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Speaker 3: minute Milliman is. This is about this thing spinning out

478
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Speaker 3: of control. World War One and the guns of August

479
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Speaker 3: spun out of control. World War two, spun out of

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Speaker 3: control and ended in a war of annihilation and vengeance.

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Speaker 3: Right the fire bombing of Tokyo, obviously, the nuclear weapons

482
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Speaker 3: that took end the war without a million American casualties,

483
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Speaker 3: infantry casualties. These things spin out of control. They all

484
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Speaker 3: spin out control like World War One, World War Two.

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Speaker 3: Because you're this is not global war and terror. This

486
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Speaker 3: is old fashioned pounded out And now we're prepared because

487
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Speaker 3: the Russians have played hardball and the Europeans have not

488
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Speaker 3: stood up quickly enough to defend this. This is a jam,

489
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Speaker 3: and this is going to merge with the Middle East

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Speaker 3: War and all of a sudden, you're gonna have a major, major,

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Speaker 3: major conflict in the Eurasian land mass. And who are

492
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Speaker 3: they all going to look to to bail them out,

493
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Speaker 3: Uncle Sugar. They're doing it right now, the Twelve Day War,

494
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Speaker 3: in the situation in Ukraine. They're coming to us next to.

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Speaker 2: The room, use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 4: Bath.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we are awaiting the Secretary General of the United Nations.

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Speaker 3: Who is at the White House date President Trump. I

499
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Speaker 3: think it was supposed to have a series of events

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Speaker 3: with evangelicals and faith based leaders. I think he's still

501
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Speaker 3: going to do that and Real Murker's voice will cover it.

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Speaker 3: But the intense military situation in Ukraine has called for

503
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Speaker 3: his attention. That the Secretary General NATO Mark Route, a

504
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Speaker 3: Dutch politician, quite close to President Trump. I think it's

505
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Speaker 3: arriving momentarily. It's close to the press, but our own

506
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Speaker 3: Brian Glenn is hanging around and we may be able

507
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Speaker 3: to get in and get some questions. We're gonna see.

508
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Speaker 3: We're gonna call audibles this morning. So Caldwell, we are

509
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Speaker 3: clearly going up to escalatory ladder. President Trump is saying that, hey,

510
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Speaker 3: he gave putin every chance, he tried to accommodate him talk,

511
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Speaker 3: and you know, I think his point of view is

512
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Speaker 3: not just the Russian rap prochman they're trying to negotiate,

513
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Speaker 3: but even a ceasefire in Ukraine, it doesn't appear. And

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Speaker 3: here's what the American people have to understand, folks, So

515
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Speaker 3: write this down, get your number two princil out. The

516
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Speaker 3: Americans want a cease fire. I think maybe even certain

517
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Speaker 3: of the Europeans want to cease fire. The folks running

518
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Speaker 3: the deal in the troops in Russia write the conscripts

519
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Speaker 3: and their parents want to cease fire, right the Ukrainian

520
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Speaker 3: parents who won't let their kids and won't approve a

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Speaker 3: national con you know, conscription to get more of the

522
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Speaker 3: under twenty five year olds in, they want to cease fire.

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Speaker 3: The American people would have their sons and daughters go

524
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Speaker 3: over there and more money, want to cease fire. Here's

525
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Speaker 3: who doesn't want to cease fire. The KGB, the guys

526
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Speaker 3: running the deal Moscow, no way they're going to go

527
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Speaker 3: to this, to the ghet Odessa and maybe more. And

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Speaker 3: the guys running the deal in Kiev just spider web.

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Speaker 3: The guys running the deal in Kiev have no interest

530
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Speaker 3: because without this war that they're they're gone by buying

531
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Speaker 3: the car car okay out also many elements of the

532
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Speaker 3: deep state spider webs. Dan Colwell always reminds me was

533
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Speaker 3: not just pulled off by the Ukrainians. It was pulled

534
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Speaker 3: off by the intelligence services and the military of the

535
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Speaker 3: United States, probably in vspad. Germany helped coordinate it clearly

536
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Speaker 3: with some very smart elements of the Ukrainian things. So

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Speaker 3: we're in a situation called well where the two principal

538
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Speaker 3: combatants have no interest in They all they want to

539
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Speaker 3: do is escalate, and they're looking for partners to help

540
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Speaker 3: them escalate. And right now, because Putin has just told Trump, hey,

541
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Speaker 3: look you took a shot. Thanks for the memories, but

542
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Speaker 3: I got this. Just butt out and and he's going

543
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Speaker 3: to do what he does. We're going up the escalatory ladder.

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Speaker 3: This is why the Secretary General of NATO is coming

545
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Speaker 3: and having a morning cup of coffee at sixteen hundred

546
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Speaker 3: Pennsylvania Avenue this morning. Sir.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I have to say Ruda is very slick. I

548
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Speaker 7: met him in February. Honestly, if they would have appro

549
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Speaker 7: appointed Kadjakalis, who's this just monster from Estonia, the former

550
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Speaker 7: prime minister who makes up stories about being oppressed by

551
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Speaker 7: the communists, obviously think there's a world we would pulled

552
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Speaker 7: out of NATO. But rudis very slick. Look, you made

553
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Speaker 7: a point about who has an interest in escalating this.

554
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Speaker 7: I think we're alluding to this is that we think

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Speaker 7: of a lot of these entities, whether we're talking about

556
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Speaker 7: Ukraine and Russia or Europe as unitary, that they all

557
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Speaker 7: are on the same plage about everything, and a lot

558
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Speaker 7: of cases they aren't. Even within Ukrainian government, there are

559
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Speaker 7: a lot of people that either didn't know about Operation

560
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Speaker 7: Spider Web or were opposed to it because the next

561
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Speaker 7: day they were going to Istanbul for peace talks. And

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Speaker 7: that gets your point about what a lot of these

563
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Speaker 7: weapons and operations are really about. They're not changing the

564
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Speaker 7: battlefield dynamic. They're about delaying peace negotiations, delaying a rap

565
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Speaker 7: posche mode between Russia or the United States, or Russia

566
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Speaker 7: and NATO, or you know, actually ending the war in

567
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Speaker 7: Ukraine because there are a lot of vested interests in

568
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Speaker 7: continuing the war. To be more specific in Ukraine. That's

569
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Speaker 7: probably for being honest, you're makin Zelenski. The war's over,

570
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Speaker 7: They're probably gone. There's a lot of Baltic states that,

571
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Speaker 7: for a variety of regions, some of the loudest supporters

572
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Speaker 7: of Ukraine want the war to continue, either because they

573
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Speaker 7: believe that they're next, which is a legitimate fear, although

574
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Speaker 7: there's not really evidence that Putin has the same designs

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Speaker 7: on those countries that he does on Ukraine. Because of

576
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Speaker 7: the historical relations with those countries. There are other people

577
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Speaker 7: in Europe that want the war to continue, and there's

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Speaker 7: people here in the United States and want the war

579
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Speaker 7: to continue for variety of reasons. But I would just

580
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Speaker 7: say this is that for the United States, if if

581
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Speaker 7: the Russians and the Ukrainians are going to keep at it,

582
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Speaker 7: if neither side is serious about a ceasefire, we need

583
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Speaker 7: to reach a point where we assess we need to

584
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Speaker 7: walk away. And that gets to your point you were

585
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Speaker 7: making at the beginning, to show about we cannot sustain

586
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Speaker 7: this conflict indefinitely. We are making way too many trade

587
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Speaker 7: offs against our readiness in the Pacific, even things that

588
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Speaker 7: we're trying to do here at home. All those additional

589
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Speaker 7: troops we deployed to Eastern Europe, in Romania, in Poland

590
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Speaker 7: and elsewhere, a lot of those troops are the same

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Speaker 7: types of troops we are deployed to the southern border,

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Speaker 7: and we're drawing from the same types of units, and

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Speaker 7: so there are real trade offs at play here, and

594
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Speaker 7: so we're rapidly approaching a point where we have to

595
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Speaker 7: make some really tough decisions that honestly, we should have

596
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Speaker 7: made long ago. And just one final point on this.

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Speaker 3: Look, yeah, go ahead.

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Speaker 7: I just say I've been to Ukraine. I went to

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Speaker 7: ukrain last year, went to Odessa. You're I've met some

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Speaker 7: incredibly brave Ukrainians and some incredibly brave people doing this,

601
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Speaker 7: and you talk to a lot of them in private,

602
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Speaker 7: almost to a t. They don't like the fact that

603
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Speaker 7: Russians have have invaded and ruined their country, but they

604
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Speaker 7: know that they're not getting Crimea back. They know that

605
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Speaker 7: that they're they're not getting the Don Boss back. It's

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Speaker 7: just their leaders in Kiev for the most part, not

607
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Speaker 7: all of them, even some of them that that that

608
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Speaker 7: have been very hawkish. They know that this war is

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Speaker 7: going to end in the negotiated settlement and that these moves,

610
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Speaker 7: these escultory moves now only benefit certain groups of people.

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Speaker 3: It's it's gonna end in an esciratory settlement. Here's here's why.

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Speaker 3: By not getting it, they're gonna the guys in Odessa

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Speaker 3: are gonna be part of that negotiation. You're not gonna

614
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Speaker 3: they're not gonna get Crimea back. They know that they're

615
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Speaker 3: not gonna get Don Boss back. We said that from

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Speaker 3: the beginning. Now they're going to make a move on

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Speaker 3: on on uh on Odessa, and then you got a

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Speaker 3: real problem. Ben Harnwell, Hang on, Dan, Ben Harnwell. First off,

619
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Speaker 3: they just changed the government today, aren't they changing the

620
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Speaker 3: deck chairs over there? As unless he's changing around first

621
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Speaker 3: time since the beginning of the war, they're geting some

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Speaker 3: new faces, some fresh faces in this for the American media, sir.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Steve, good morning to you. They've pulled the guy

624
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Speaker 6: Schmiegel who has been who's not a character in Lord

625
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Speaker 6: of the Rings, who is a character Lord of the Rings.

626
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Speaker 6: But he's also up until today, the Prime Minister of Ukraine,

627
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Speaker 6: I think since twenty twenty. He's now out, and Zelensky

628
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Speaker 6: has done a switcheroo and put in the lady who

629
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Speaker 6: was negotiating the mineral steel, the aborted mineral steal. Look,

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Speaker 6: I'm going to cast my cynical, beady eyes on this one. Stephen.

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Speaker 6: Tell you just how I see this, and it's a

632
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Speaker 6: very cynical reading, okay, but it's basically this. If I

633
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Speaker 6: were to give a pitch to President Trump, it would

634
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Speaker 6: be this, mister President, sir, there is amongst your voters,

635
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Speaker 6: amongst the people who support you and come out and

636
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Speaker 6: fight for you, there is no political victory for you

637
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 6: in a military victory in Ukraine. And that's how I

638
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 6: would frame this. Nobody who has been out supporting Donald

639
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Speaker 6: Trump since Zelenski basically humiliated Potus in the first term

640
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Speaker 6: over the issue over the perfect phone call and all

641
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Speaker 6: the fallout of that and the impeachment that fell out

642
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Speaker 6: of that. This movement, and I know this because, as

643
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Speaker 6: I say again and again and again I read every

644
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Speaker 6: comment that's posted on GHETA, this movement is ninety eight

645
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Speaker 6: percent opposed to any support or whatsoever for Ukraine. And

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Speaker 6: as much as the story is today, as you and

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Speaker 6: Dan cold what are talking about this news that has

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Speaker 6: emerged primarily via axios of a potential weapons steal regarding

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Speaker 2: It's a story that I haven't seen in any of

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Speaker 2: the media.

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Speaker 6: I've not seen it denied by the White House. But

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Speaker 6: I will simply repeat it in our post this out

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Speaker 6: President is considering extra fresh financial aid for Zelensky three

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Speaker 6: point eighty five billion left over from the drawdown the

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Speaker 6: presidential drawdown authority under the Biden regime. But more specifically,

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Speaker 6: seizing of the Russian assets. That's an escalation that even

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Speaker 6: Biden didn't want to want to perform. So the question

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Speaker 6: is this, Steve, and I'll hand back over to you

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Speaker 6: guys on this one. What are the criteria for success

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Speaker 6: and failure of the policy of arming Zelensky with these

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Speaker 6: Patriot missiles and the other missiles that can reach to Moscow.

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Speaker 6: I'd see the definitions, the calculations of how they are

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Speaker 6: going to define in the White House what success looks

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Speaker 6: like and what failure looks like. Because, as you were

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Speaker 6: saying just now in the first block, this is absolutely escalatory.

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Speaker 6: It's not what President Trump promised in the campaign. And

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Speaker 6: I repeat again, I don't buy the argument that he

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Speaker 6: please go ahead.

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Speaker 3: But what the Lindsay Graham, here's the thing. Let me

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Speaker 3: just go Let's try to get your question to answer.

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Speaker 3: We get Dan carle On here, the Lindsey Graham pitch

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Speaker 3: and the Tom Cotton pitch in the in the Accelerationists,

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Speaker 3: the escalatory group, and what they want. You got to

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Speaker 3: remember what they want. They want us in an actual

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Speaker 3: armed conflict. They want us as a combatant in Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: just like they wanted us as a combatant in Persia.

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Speaker 3: And in Persia they got it. But Present and Trump

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Speaker 3: did the massive bombing campaign, Like I said, the most

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Speaker 3: complicated things since D Day, to end the Twelve Day

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Speaker 3: bombing by the Israelis, all Fox News was cheerleading and

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Speaker 3: Netanyahu's government was talking about regime change. This is why

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Speaker 3: they took out the negotiators on the on you know,

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, Noman. They took out the senior military command.

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Speaker 3: We started this show that Friday. That Friday, what do

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Speaker 3: we talk about? This was a decapitation move for a

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Speaker 3: regime change. That's what they wanted. They wanted to suck

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Speaker 3: us into a war there, and they want to suck

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Speaker 3: us into war here. Because what you're doing now is

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Speaker 3: just up the escalatory ladder. This won't ended, This won't

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Speaker 3: this might not probably not even slow it down. These

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Speaker 3: the endgame is military confrontation, let's just get it out

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Speaker 3: in front of the American people right now. Let's just

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Speaker 3: be honest with them, tell them, hey, this is where

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Speaker 3: this is headed. That brigade of one hundred troops in

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Speaker 3: the hundred first Airborne in eastern Romania are going to

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Speaker 3: be in the fight where you get all the folks

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Speaker 3: we've ford deployed into Poland and these other places. They're

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Speaker 3: going to be in the fight that we're going to

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Speaker 3: get intown to a ground war, which we are in

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Speaker 3: the Eurasian land mass, near Stalingrad, near Kursk, where near

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Speaker 3: every great commander in the last war that we actually

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Speaker 3: We cannot get involved in that part of the world

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Speaker 3: because that's called the Bloodlands for a reason. That's where

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Speaker 3: these the Germanic and Slavic entities have bled themselves out

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Speaker 3: This is a cursed part of the world. And why

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Speaker 3: We're inexorably getting drawn into a major conflict with direct

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Speaker 3: Chris Hort joins us. Chris with wars and the rumors

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Speaker 10: your phone and a free power bank to keep it

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Speaker 10: charged you know when it runs low. So this is

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Speaker 10: all free with activation fifteen hundred dollars value. Nowhere else

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Speaker 10: in the country, Steve, can you get a free satellite phone.

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Speaker 10: You're gonna have to buy the phone and then pay

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Speaker 10: for the service. But at sat onetwothree dot com you

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Speaker 10: get the phone for free, and today only we're giving

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Speaker 10: away a free hard case as well, and a free

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Speaker 10: portable power bank. With the Iridium nine Triple five. You're

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Speaker 10: paying just ninety nine bucks a month and you're getting

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Speaker 10: one hundred and fifty minutes, Steve, and those minutes can

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Speaker 10: even roll over if you don't use them. But this

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Speaker 10: phone will keep working no matter what cell tous washed

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Speaker 10: away five lines down, cyber attack on our cell phone networks.

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Speaker 10: This phone is going to keep you in communication via

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Speaker 10: voice and by text anywhere on Earth, no matter what

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Speaker 10: the situation. You can got us at one two three

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Speaker 10: dot com. Steve, we'll call nine one eight full one

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Speaker 10: zero eight full four. That's nine one eight full one

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Speaker 10: zero eight full full. But Steve, this offer is very limited.

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Speaker 10: I think we just got fifty of these available right

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Speaker 10: now as they check it out right now.

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Speaker 3: So hit the bid now. Folks get on these these

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Speaker 3: specials of Chris Horror does for us don't last. So

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Speaker 3: go there now Chris Horror, Thank you very much brother.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Steve Satellite Phone Store. Well, the engine room tells me,

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Speaker 3: I just said that part of the world is curse

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Speaker 3: this engine room. One of our members, the insineroom, said

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Speaker 3: he's toward the mass graves in that part of the world. Says,

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Speaker 3: you cannot believe. It's beyond comprehension. It's beyond human comprehension.

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Speaker 3: And now we stand on the cusp of being exorably

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Speaker 3: drawn in to a military conflict. Short break back in

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Speaker 3: the word, Otter wond