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Speaker 3: All right, poll question for hour two is going to be.
Speaker 4: All right, Dan, this is a courtesy of Paul Okay,
Speaker 4: NFL career. You'd rather have twelve seasons, six times Pro bowler,
Speaker 4: never an All Pro retired by choice, or six seasons,
Speaker 4: six times All Pro and retire early due to injury
Speaker 4: sort of the Pro Bowl All Pro debate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to fix the Pro Bowl. I mean
Speaker 2: not the festivities. I can't fix that. That's not fixable,
Speaker 2: but the designation. We keep saying we have to add
Speaker 2: a the scarlet letter Pro Bowl ulternate alternate here, Yes
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 5: As long as it wasn't a life altering injury. I
Speaker 5: think I would take that second one. Six times six
Speaker 5: All pros and unfortunately you had a ballot early because
Speaker 5: of injury and not because you decided you didn't want
Speaker 5: to play anymore.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the right answer.
Speaker 6: Yeah, pull a lot of people I think will lean
Speaker 6: towards the longer, very goodish career than the awesome six
Speaker 6: year career.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want to reveal those players.
Speaker 6: I don't have any names, actually, oh you don't, but
Speaker 6: like Patrick Willis is a good example. The linebacker I
Speaker 6: think he was.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were basing this off.
Speaker 6: Oh it's not Whose stats would you haunt oh, oh, Okay,
Speaker 6: it's more of a hypothetical long really good career or
Speaker 6: unbelievable short career.
Speaker 3: Okay, would you rather be Frank Gore or Terrell Davis?
Speaker 7: There you go?
Speaker 3: How about that classic? How about that?
Speaker 2: Would you rather be Curtis Martin or Terrell Davis or
Speaker 2: Gail says. I'm gonna take Trell Davis and Gail says, Now,
Speaker 2: Curtis Martin's Hall of Famer. Frank gore'e got fifteen thousand yards,
Speaker 2: isn't he? I'm guessing he's going to be a Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer. Been a little too long, I think you think. Wow, buddy,
Speaker 2: I'm glad he played a little longer for this question.
Speaker 2: I mean he's a prime example there of what you
Speaker 2: want with Canada a Canada b Yes, Paul.
Speaker 6: Frank is perfect for this. He made five Pro Bowls,
Speaker 6: never went over thirteen hundred yards in any of those season.
Speaker 2: And how many yards did he end up in his career?
Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand, sixteen thousand on the nose? God, I think
Speaker 2: that's third all time.
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is that not third all time?
Speaker 3: I think it's second all time.
Speaker 6: I think sweetness is sixteen seven, twenty six ish and
Speaker 6: I never everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like how you act like you're like I think
Speaker 2: Walter Payton had sixteen thousand, twenty seven yard.
Speaker 6: There's nothing I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Tom Well compiler instead of pro Did Walter
Speaker 3: Payton have that many yarns?
Speaker 7: Dang?
Speaker 6: Be easy, he should have had thirty thousand.
Speaker 8: He should for that strike here.
Speaker 3: Of course he should.
Speaker 8: Touchdown in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh, oh easy easy. Don't get Paul riled up.
Speaker 6: You make fun of my family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but not Walter Peyton, yes, Marton.
Speaker 9: So Frank Gore is the rafaol Paul Marrow of the
Speaker 9: NFL without steroids.
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 3: And viagra checking No, remember he did the commercial.
Speaker 6: Yes, if you're gonna accuse me of performance dancing, yeah, sure,
Speaker 6: it's in the bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yes, like if yeah, hey he's on peds he is, Yeah, viagra.
Speaker 8: I've never used steroids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: He knows how to swing up bat Thank you, Todd
Speaker 3: too easy writes itself. So you got emmittt at what
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Emmitt Smith is the all time rushing leader at
Speaker 6: eighteen three fifty five. Walter sixteen seven twenty six nailed it.
Speaker 6: Frank Or at sixteen thousand, Barry Sanders fifteen two fifty ish.
Speaker 6: The next closest active player Derrick Henry at eleven five.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I Barry Sanders would have been the all
Speaker 2: time record holder if he won two. He just was like, Eh,
Speaker 2: I don't want to play anymore. Imagine your franchise is
Speaker 2: so bad that two first Mallon Hall of Famers decided
Speaker 2: not to continue to play. Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders.
Speaker 2: Oh look who's there? Oh look at that face?
Speaker 3: Seaton encounter.
Speaker 2: Don't get too close with the camera there, Yo, seating
Speaker 2: on the road. What is the what is the location?
Speaker 10: We're in Greensboro, North Carolina. Right now. I'm with my
Speaker 10: guy Phil Collins. Believe it or not, this.
Speaker 3: Year Phil Collins is there.
Speaker 11: Yes, in the MAKEO world, Phil Collins is a big deal.
Speaker 11: I think he's like the largest owner of Maco's here.
Speaker 11: And then there's the other Phil Collins that would be
Speaker 11: more familiar with.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 11: I resisted every urge in my body to make some
Speaker 11: type of reference. I was like, I can't, but he's
Speaker 11: he's Luckily, he's a big Alabama guy. So we talked
Speaker 11: to Alabama Football and Nick saban Nil for a little bit.
Speaker 11: No reference is to anything Genesis related.
Speaker 3: Okay, the highlight so far has been, let's.
Speaker 11: See, we had a really good dinner last night at
Speaker 11: a place called Machete or I'm.
Speaker 3: Not really sure which.
Speaker 11: Me and the French kid haven't killed each other just yet,
Speaker 11: but that's could be on the way.
Speaker 10: But no, we're doing okay, we're doing okay.
Speaker 11: There's been at almost every place that we've stopped so far,
Speaker 11: at a make a location, somebody there is really into drifting,
Speaker 11: you know, like cars where they're like sliding around each other.
Speaker 11: So that's been pretty cool. That's actually there's like a
Speaker 11: huge I don't know, I mean we're at a garage,
Speaker 11: so of course people it's positive popular there, but drifting
Speaker 11: is a big thing.
Speaker 10: It's pretty awesome.
Speaker 3: And where are we off to today?
Speaker 11: After Greensboro, We're going to Charlotte for a quick stop there.
Speaker 10: Then we're going to Greenville, South Carolina.
Speaker 11: Uh, and then maybe if we have enough time, onto Atlanta.
Speaker 3: You're still on target for Friday in New Orleans?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we should make New Orleans on Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 10: that's the plan.
Speaker 11: But then we got to stop in Birmingham, Gulf Court
Speaker 11: a couple other places.
Speaker 3: You're seeing all the make O people, that's it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they're treating us well. We got coffee and
Speaker 10: donuts here.
Speaker 3: It's pretty sweet, all right, got it made you?
Speaker 2: And the French kid does he have his watermelon vape
Speaker 2: pen with him on it?
Speaker 3: He's not. He's not vaping.
Speaker 10: No, he isn't.
Speaker 11: He hasn't been vaping at all this time. It's been
Speaker 11: this trip, I could say, for a lot of different
Speaker 11: eason that.
Speaker 10: Has been much different than the previous two. No vaping, no, yeah,
Speaker 10: it's not his best behavior.
Speaker 3: And no no accidents yet.
Speaker 11: No, no, the ban is in exactly the same shape
Speaker 11: as when we left.
Speaker 3: Good. Well, good to see you. We'll I'll chat with
Speaker 3: you tomorrow.
Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, see you guys.
Speaker 2: That's seat O'Connor on the road courtesy of Mako the
Speaker 2: great folks. There are new partner on the road to
Speaker 2: New Orleans in time for the Super Bowl. A couple
Speaker 2: of phone calls in here. The Saints are still looking
Speaker 2: for a coach. It looks like that's going to be
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. When other names have taken their name out
Speaker 2: of the hopper. That usually means that they're being told
Speaker 2: they're not going to be the next head coach. Does
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy get in the media for a year. I
Speaker 2: don't know how he'd be on TV. He doesn't strike
Speaker 2: me as you know, charismatic. I mean, he's not Rex Ryan,
Speaker 2: But I don't know. If you get him in a
Speaker 2: lab and let him, you know, dissect things, and maybe
Speaker 2: he could be you know, he could have a coming
Speaker 2: out party.
Speaker 6: We were like, man, where's this been? Yes, Paulin, you
Speaker 6: know what the interesting thing or challenging thing or Mike
Speaker 6: McCarthy would be. We and other people would want to
Speaker 6: ask him questions about dealing with everything that is the
Speaker 6: Cowboys coach. And if you remember when Jason Garrett started
Speaker 6: doing this, he was hesitant to give you details about
Speaker 6: Jerry Jones because he wanted another job and you got
Speaker 6: to keep things in house if you're a possible NFL.
Speaker 2: Coach, Well, he would say, oh, you always asked me
Speaker 2: these questions. I'm like, yes, that's my job, yes, Marvin, But.
Speaker 9: Could you imagine Mike McCarthy doing ex's and O's plays
Speaker 9: and Cowboys fans going where was this when you were
Speaker 9: the Cowboys head coach.
Speaker 5: Yes, DoD can you throw me in the Bothberg Cardinals
Speaker 5: Titans game just to give it a shot.
Speaker 2: And No, I don't think I want him calling a game.
Speaker 2: I think he would have to be set up in
Speaker 2: a studio where you're going to him for something really specific.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could have Mike Gun Maybe I could ask
Speaker 2: him if he wants to join us towards the draft
Speaker 2: or by the way, the Senior Bowl. They're doing measurables
Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. It's the Senior Bowl. The combine
Speaker 2: before the combine? Is it pre combine? All measurements the
Speaker 2: I'd have taken away the thunder from the combine, Jalen Milrow.
Speaker 2: Small hands, Marvin, you should have broke that story.
Speaker 8: I thought we were over this.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 2: Never are you in a small hands support groups when.
Speaker 3: It cuts of coffee in the waiting room?
Speaker 8: Just yeah, I need to be around here, Oh for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 9: I can't believe one day, at six thirty in the morning,
Speaker 9: measuring hands turned into this.
Speaker 2: I know, I didn't know what was going on when
Speaker 2: Ray said, oh, we got to measure everybody's hands, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the big reveal and seatan goes,
Speaker 2: I know I have the smallest hands, and when we
Speaker 2: read the results in it was like the smallest hands Marvin. Oh,
Speaker 2: greatest day aside from Seaton's son being born and getting
Speaker 2: married was that day.
Speaker 9: Yes, we need a poll question because I'm not sure
Speaker 9: if that's the right answer. His hands being bigger than
Speaker 9: mine might be up there.
Speaker 2: It's it might be bigger than when he got married. Yes,
Speaker 2: it might be. It might be second on that list.
Speaker 2: I've never seen a smile like that. It's like, yes,
Speaker 2: I don't have the smallest hands. Jason Utah, Hi, Jas,
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?
Speaker 12: I like Roger in Iowa. I'm perfectly healthy and watching
Speaker 12: on Peacock. Shout out to your streaming partner. I did
Speaker 12: fall in love with this show home down with nothing
Speaker 12: better to do, but wanted to give an honest to
Speaker 12: God compliment. You all are crushing it today. Even when
Speaker 12: I can't catch the show live, I'll watch on Peacock
Speaker 12: later and as a newer listener, I love the archives.
Speaker 12: So thanks for entertaining the nation and with tender love
Speaker 12: and care. So I'll get fritzy, all right.
Speaker 2: That's Jason Utah y. Yes, by the way, people are
Speaker 2: wondering about my sweatshirt hoodie. This is a gift from
Speaker 2: Adam Sandler that I got yesterday. So it's a Happy
Speaker 2: Gilmore sweatshirt, but it's a double X. And Sandman likes
Speaker 2: to wear things baggy but I don't. But Sandman's weight
Speaker 2: fluctuates a little bit. I'm being kind here, but yeah,
Speaker 2: this is I mean, this body, I mean it's meant
Speaker 2: to be seen with this.
Speaker 8: It's just baggy. You're swimming in that thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like putting baggy clothes on Emily Ratakowski or
Speaker 2: whatever her name is RATATOUI.
Speaker 8: That's a good comp you came up with there on
Speaker 8: the flock.
Speaker 3: Thank you to thank you? Uh Ryan in North Carolina?
Speaker 3: Hi Ryan.
Speaker 12: Who wants Dan Patrick to retire in three years?
Speaker 3: No lot oh, I was gonna say everybody.
Speaker 12: I wanted to just thank you guys for the last
Speaker 12: two years. You've really helped me through a tough time
Speaker 12: in my life. This show has been an awesome, healthy
Speaker 12: distraction for me and I love every minute of it
Speaker 12: and it's just been great. I wanted to give y'all
Speaker 12: a recommendation for sushi in New Orleans. My cousin and
Speaker 12: a guy I grew up with the New Orleans owns
Speaker 12: and runs a sushi restaurant called Rock and Sake. And
Speaker 12: if you get me some heads up, I'm sure he
Speaker 12: would put together an anti mayonnaise pesto sushi roll for you.
Speaker 7: Dan.
Speaker 12: I'm a fellow mayonnaise hater. He knows that, and so
Speaker 12: I've been there a bunch of times and he always
Speaker 12: flips up something without vaoli and no mayonnaise and things
Speaker 12: like that.
Speaker 3: All right, well, I'll have Tyler take your phone number there. Right, Maybe.
Speaker 2: I'm taking the Dan nuts out on Sunday. I'm still
Speaker 2: looking for a restaurant on Sunday. This is the big
Speaker 2: get together before we start our Super Bowl week, and
Speaker 2: we're going out early, five o'clock dinner, just letting you know,
Speaker 2: the cool kids go to the five o'clock Yeah, five
Speaker 2: o'clock dinner. That's when we start. Yes, Paul, we.
Speaker 6: Are trying to find a restaurant. There was a big
Speaker 6: meeting with the big German and I yesterday about this.
Speaker 6: It's hard to get a table for twelve. I know
Speaker 6: we can get six and six, but then who's at
Speaker 6: the big kids table? Who's at the you know.
Speaker 3: I think that we would just draw names out of
Speaker 3: a hat.
Speaker 2: I would say, all right, here's six at this table,
Speaker 2: here's six at this table.
Speaker 3: As long as Fritzie's not at my table, I'm good.
Speaker 8: Sounds delicious.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't be next to you when
Speaker 3: you're eating. I can't.
Speaker 8: I've been practicing trying to eat with my mouth clothes.
Speaker 8: It's very difficult. Yes, Marmon, is Dylan with us Sunday Night?
Speaker 3: Dylan?
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, what do you mean? Oh? This is the
Speaker 8: the entire team.
Speaker 3: Well b rg's as well.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wasn't sure if it was just Danette's.
Speaker 4: I was going to ask if I made the cut
Speaker 4: after one week for.
Speaker 3: Dinner, how about you stay for appetizers.
Speaker 8: Wow, that's perfect. I'm kind of an apps guy anyways. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, looks like you don't miss too many of them.
Speaker 2: I hit them all, you do? Yeah, everybody, everybody who's
Speaker 2: there in New Orleans working on the show, we're going
Speaker 2: to go out to dinner together. We just need to
Speaker 2: find a place that will seat twelve at five o'clock.
Speaker 2: Five o'clock shouldn't be the hard thing, but to get
Speaker 2: I don't want a table of twelve, just two tables
Speaker 2: of six.
Speaker 3: Be the early bird special crowd.
Speaker 2: Yes, and we're gonna get there when they open. But
Speaker 2: there's so many restaurants there, it's hard to find a
Speaker 2: restaurant that's not good in New Orleans. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: take a break. We'll get some more phone calls coming up,
Speaker 2: and let's see we'll update the poll results. The Commissioner
Speaker 2: of the NBA is going to join us and that
Speaker 2: will take place next.
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Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of the NBA for the last eleven years.
Speaker 2: Adam Silver joining us on the program, High Commissioner, How
Speaker 2: are you?
Speaker 7: I'm good, Dan? I need some more stuff on my desk.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 7: It's clean? I like all the stuff you got there, though.
Speaker 2: Well, you got some poll with teams. Why don't you
Speaker 2: just have a little choons keys Garre. You get bobblehead
Speaker 2: dolls up there?
Speaker 7: I've got him. I just I put paper on my desk.
Speaker 7: We have a different jobs.
Speaker 3: What is the coolest thing in your office?
Speaker 7: I have one of shacks shoes. It looks like a
Speaker 7: snow boot and you could use it as a planner.
Speaker 3: Well, I have one too, his rebox shoe.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't it was the brand that he created.
Speaker 8: Oukay.
Speaker 7: I think it was like dunk Man. I think was
Speaker 7: the brand. Okay, And it's enormous. It looks it doesn't
Speaker 7: look real.
Speaker 2: Well, he only gave me one. I don't know why
Speaker 2: he only gives out one shoe.
Speaker 7: It gave me the other. I only have one. You
Speaker 7: have the left right.
Speaker 3: I think I have the left one, but I.
Speaker 7: Got the right. He split the pair between us.
Speaker 2: I got Tim duncan shoes from when they won the
Speaker 2: NBA title against the Knicks, and he said, I'll give
Speaker 2: you my shoes if you tell me who's the number
Speaker 2: one sports century athlete. They just win the NBA championship.
Speaker 2: He comes in, I'm doing Sports Center. He's got his
Speaker 2: shoes and he writes to DP Tim Duncan and then
Speaker 2: he said, right, who's number one on the list and
Speaker 2: I I nobody knew because we had that countdown. I
Speaker 2: said it's Jordan And he said, all right, here's your shoes.
Speaker 2: So I got Tim Duncan's shoes after the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2: Did you get any Jordan stuff when you were with
Speaker 2: the you know, commissioner Stern?
Speaker 7: No, I mean only because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess I was around a lot of
Speaker 7: Jordan stuff, but I wasn't a collector. I don't think
Speaker 7: will be appropriate.
Speaker 2: Well, when you weren't the commissioner, you could have said, hey,
Speaker 2: be nice to get a pair of Mike's shoes.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I bought a lot of Jordan shoes over the years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I I talked to who is it? Tim?
Speaker 3: Who's the Tim the Tim? No? No, Tim? Who was
Speaker 3: the bulls PR guy Tim? Tim Hallum?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Tim.
Speaker 3: He would get Jordan's shoes.
Speaker 2: After every NBA Finals, every title he Mike would take
Speaker 2: off the shoes and autograph them and hand them to
Speaker 2: them after everyone. I don't know if he sold those things,
Speaker 2: but those things got to be worth because their championship
Speaker 2: warn NBA shoes by Mike, they got to be worth
Speaker 2: a whole lot of money.
Speaker 7: And I think about the business Mike created as a
Speaker 7: division of Nike, the Jordan brand. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 7: it's a multi billion dollar business at this point. I mean,
Speaker 7: how many think about how many athletes have retained Yeah,
Speaker 7: a kind of notoriety, you know this many decades post
Speaker 7: playing career, and it's I mean, he's an amazing guy obviously,
Speaker 7: and he's still a small owner in the league and Charlotte,
Speaker 7: but I might, you know, I post his playing career.
Speaker 7: I mean I knew him a bit over the years,
Speaker 7: but you know, post playing career, we got to be
Speaker 7: really close and he was obviously one of my bosses
Speaker 7: for the first several years I was the commissioner and
Speaker 7: still amazing person.
Speaker 2: Give me the list here, like, what's top on your
Speaker 2: list here of what needs to be addressed with the NBA.
Speaker 7: I think top on my list is the transition we're
Speaker 7: going through in media now. I mean, we locked in
Speaker 7: our new media deals for essentially the next decade, staying
Speaker 7: with Disney, ABC and ESPN, moving to Comcast Universal Peacock
Speaker 7: in addition to being on NBC and now Amazon. But
Speaker 7: I think more interesting in a way is not just
Speaker 7: moving from one partner to another, but the shift in
Speaker 7: live sports to streaming. And I think where as most
Speaker 7: fancy it now and maybe even a little bit of
Speaker 7: a pain that they got to switch off their box
Speaker 7: or whatever else and then find the app or however
Speaker 7: they have to do it. From a programming standpoint, it's
Speaker 7: still they're finding what, in essence looks like the same game.
Speaker 7: It's just streamed as other than being on broadcaster conventional cable.
Speaker 7: What's really fascinating to me is all the functionality that
Speaker 7: sort of Internet TV will allow through streaming, all the personalization,
Speaker 7: the customization that will come, all the new types of
Speaker 7: information you can prevent present to fans as they're watching games,
Speaker 7: you know, all that optionality I think. I mean, you know,
Speaker 7: when we first met, I was at NBA Entertainment and
Speaker 7: sort of began my career on the production side, and
Speaker 7: I think it's at this moment we can redefine how
Speaker 7: we present the game to fans and also make it
Speaker 7: a lot more convenient. I mean, in our new deals,
Speaker 7: every game will be streamed, and we have a very
Speaker 7: young audience. You know, they're watching more screen time than
Speaker 7: ever before, but not traditional television. And I think our
Speaker 7: ability to bring those games directly to them and in
Speaker 7: ways they want to consume them. I'll add to that
Speaker 7: as well. I think using social media to engage fans,
Speaker 7: I mean, not just to interest them. I mean, like example,
Speaker 7: talked about recently, Victor Wembinyama was in New York on
Speaker 7: Christmas Day and then was around for two more days
Speaker 7: because then he played in Brooklyn two days later, and
Speaker 7: he's a chess player and he went to Washington Square Park.
Speaker 7: I'm sure you saw that clip. Something like one hundred
Speaker 7: million people you know a week saw video of him
Speaker 7: playing chess in Washington Square Park. And our viewership, which
Speaker 7: is fine, pales though in comparison to the social media
Speaker 7: following of these players and the league, that number, you know,
Speaker 7: on a global basis is over two billion. And I
Speaker 7: think sort of my job is to get more basketball
Speaker 7: lovers to watch the NBA and watch it longer. And
Speaker 7: I think there's an opportunity to use social media to
Speaker 7: create more engagement, and not just to show how multifaceted
Speaker 7: Wemby is and he loves to play chess, but to
Speaker 7: teach people about the game, to celebrate the game, to
Speaker 7: demonstrate why I know you you're a college basketball player,
Speaker 7: I know you love the game, like why this is
Speaker 7: such an incredible game, and help people better understand what
Speaker 7: they're watching, understand the finer points of the game and
Speaker 7: fair to be critical of it at times too, and
Speaker 7: you know, should there be less three point shooting, et cetera.
Speaker 7: I mean that's something we're very focused on. But when
Speaker 7: I day in and day out, you know, and I
Speaker 7: have all the very streaming service is and have all
Speaker 7: different programming available to me, I don't think it's an
Speaker 7: accident that people are increasingly gravitating towards premium live sports,
Speaker 7: not just basketball, but obviously football, hockey, baseball, et cetera. WNBA. Now,
Speaker 7: I think because people crave something that's live, something that's
Speaker 7: you know, unscripted, something that can be entertaining as well,
Speaker 7: and I think the basketball in the NBA can be
Speaker 7: all those things. But we also our job has become
Speaker 7: that much harder because we're competing against so many different
Speaker 7: forms of entertainment. It's podcasts and social media and unlimited
Speaker 7: numbers of channels and programming, and so we have to
Speaker 7: up our game too to make sure that we're finding
Speaker 7: ways to engage viewers and again to teach people about
Speaker 7: the game. And that's been one of my frustrations. I
Speaker 7: think that I don't blame the broadcasters, and it's hard.
Speaker 7: You've broadcast a lot of basketball that the game's moving
Speaker 7: so quickly. You don't have the space that you might
Speaker 7: have in football or in baseball to be talking more
Speaker 7: about what's unfolding before you.
Speaker 2: But what bothers you more the ratings or the coverage
Speaker 2: of the ratings.
Speaker 7: The ratings are fine. I mean we're we're roughly even
Speaker 7: with last season for the regular season, which was the
Speaker 7: highest ratings for a regular season in four years. There
Speaker 7: is I get it. There was a narrative early in
Speaker 7: the season we were down a bit. I you know,
Speaker 7: it's you've been covering the league for a long time.
Speaker 7: I mean, it seems that there's always a narrative around
Speaker 7: our sport. You know, too physical, too much isolation, scoring,
Speaker 7: too low, you know, super teams, player empowerment. I mean
Speaker 7: I could go on and on. And then the narrative
Speaker 7: early in the season became the ratings are down because
Speaker 7: of three point shooting. I think those are two independent issues.
Speaker 7: The ratings are now about even with last year. And
Speaker 7: as I said, you know, if you look more broadly
Speaker 7: at other measures of game, our attendance last season was
Speaker 7: the highest in the history of the league. I mean,
Speaker 7: you can't look at social media over too long a
Speaker 7: spectrum because it didn't exist. But if you but when
Speaker 7: you add in social media, the game has never been
Speaker 7: more popular in terms of the engagement. So do I
Speaker 7: get frustrated about around the narrative around ratings, Yes, especially
Speaker 7: when because of the decline in traditional television, decline in
Speaker 7: cable homes, everyone's down a bit, so you know, Plus
Speaker 7: we entered into our new deals for the next decade,
Speaker 7: so I feel good about that. But I think those
Speaker 7: narratives become a reality to the extent, especially even when
Speaker 7: we're doing well. It's still only a significant a relatively
Speaker 7: small percentage of the population that's watching live games, so
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people out there who may not
Speaker 7: be fans of the NBA and become consumed with that story.
Speaker 7: And again, NBA seems to take a disproportionate amount of
Speaker 7: that discussion. I think maybe because we're so relevant from
Speaker 7: a societal standpoint, Our players have been outspoken, There's been
Speaker 7: a history of activism certain cases in this league. For
Speaker 7: whatever those reasons, I think, at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: my job is to find more people who are inclined
Speaker 7: to want to watch live sports, to want to watch basketball,
Speaker 7: and convert them into NBA fans, right, let me want
Speaker 7: to lose sight of that.
Speaker 3: Let me do rapid fire, because there's a few topics here.
Speaker 2: The NIL ruling has made college basketball more of an
Speaker 2: attractive path for athletes in recent years. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that changes allowing players out of high school that
Speaker 2: you will revisit that. But what is is the NC
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA a friend or a foe to the NBA.
Speaker 7: NCUBLEA is a great friend. In fact, Charlie Baker, who's
Speaker 7: the former governor of Massachusetts, I've gotten to know well
Speaker 7: over the last couple of years, we're talking about more
Speaker 7: that we can do to get I mean, you remember,
Speaker 7: in the not so old days, if we touched a amateur,
Speaker 7: you know, high school player, we could cause them to
Speaker 7: lose their eligibility. Now, of course, you know, through collectives
Speaker 7: and NIL they're paid. And what we've been talking the
Speaker 7: NC DOUBLEA about is we should jointly get more involved
Speaker 7: in youth basketball, particularly the training of elite players. The
Speaker 7: vast majority of them we'll never make it to the NBA,
Speaker 7: but we'll play in college, and so we have a
Speaker 7: joint interest not in developing elite players and then for
Speaker 7: the broader base of players. We have a joint interest
Speaker 7: in for young boys and of course young girls, getting
Speaker 7: them to be more active. You know, basketball is a
Speaker 7: great sport to do that, getting them again to love
Speaker 7: the game. Charlie Baker himself was a college player, so
Speaker 7: we're working together. I think on the specifically nil and collectives.
Speaker 7: I think there's work to be done in college basketball
Speaker 7: because just like in the NBA, where over successive collective
Speaker 7: bargaining agreements we've helped to level the playing field in
Speaker 7: terms of competition. We've had six different teams win championships
Speaker 7: over the last six years. At the end of the day,
Speaker 7: we're selling competition, and I think college has to work
Speaker 7: through some issues where now as players in essence through
Speaker 7: the portal can become essentially free agents every year. You
Speaker 7: know that there's no really real salary structure, so you
Speaker 7: have a lot of real, you know, out of whack
Speaker 7: balance in terms of team's ability to compete. And I
Speaker 7: think for fans of the college game, and I'm one
Speaker 7: of them, at the end of the day, you want
Speaker 7: to see great competition in Division one.
Speaker 2: Will you revisit like the G League. You've got players
Speaker 2: who are just going to the G League. If you
Speaker 2: allow them to come out of high school to the NBA,
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be going to the G League, I would imagine, right.
Speaker 7: Well, yes, but in fact, you know, back before those
Speaker 7: court rulings which allowed the collectives in NIL, at the
Speaker 7: urging of Condallisa Rice who oversaw a commission with the
Speaker 7: NCAA and President Obama to a certain extent, we were
Speaker 7: asked to create a professional track because the view was
Speaker 7: it was unfair to so called force these young men
Speaker 7: to go to college for a year before they came
Speaker 7: into the NBA. So we weren't ready to return to
Speaker 7: eighteen as the mini mage in the NBA. We stayed
Speaker 7: at nineteen. But through the G League we created something
Speaker 7: called Team McKnight, where we were paying players several hundred
Speaker 7: thousand dollars a year in a pro track and then
Speaker 7: come into the NBA. That seems like a pittance now
Speaker 7: based on what players are able to earn in Division
Speaker 7: one through these college programs, And frankly, I think the
Speaker 7: track through these great college programs is better than what
Speaker 7: we were offering them in the G League because they
Speaker 7: have first class training facilities, some of the greatest coaches
Speaker 7: out there, planes et cetera. That didn't make sense in
Speaker 7: our economic model and still doesn't for the G League.
Speaker 7: So I'm perfectly fine with them going to college. And
Speaker 7: by the way, you know, what you've also seen with
Speaker 7: nil and collective money is there's a big pool of
Speaker 7: international players who would have stayed largely in Europe and
Speaker 7: played but are now coming to play Division one basketball
Speaker 7: because it's a better economic situation for them and ultimately
Speaker 7: a bet probably better development too, if their goal is
Speaker 7: to get into the NBA.
Speaker 2: Give me the wildest thing that you guys have considered.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's always you know, we're going to try this.
Speaker 2: You know, the NFL doing the kickoff the way they did.
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy that that's what it looks like. Give
Speaker 2: me a this has been discussed.
Speaker 7: I mean one that's only been discussed a little. I
Speaker 7: wouldn't put it necessarily in the category of being so wild.
Speaker 7: Is potentially two free throws for a foul and a
Speaker 7: three point shot. That's I don't necessarily think I would
Speaker 7: do it in the last two minutes of the game,
Speaker 7: But I think that's something interesting, something else that I'm
Speaker 7: a fan of, and I'm probably in a minority as
Speaker 7: we get more involved in global basketball. The NBA is
Speaker 7: the only league that plays forty eight minutes, and I
Speaker 7: would be I am a fan of four ten minute quarters.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that many others are. I mean, putting
Speaker 7: inside what it means for records and things like that,
Speaker 7: I think that a two hour format for a game
Speaker 7: is more consistent sort of modern television habits. I don't
Speaker 7: think people in arenas aren't asking us to shorten the game,
Speaker 7: but I think as a television program being two hours,
Speaker 7: that's Olympic basketball as being is two hours, you know,
Speaker 7: college basketball courses.
Speaker 2: But if you like it, I'd say it has kind
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a push there.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game.
Speaker 7: I mean, I think something like that would have to
Speaker 7: be talked more about over time.
Speaker 3: I mean, incidentally dramatic commissioner.
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I I I'm a fan of what baseball did.
Speaker 7: I'm a baseball fan, and I think some of those
Speaker 7: changes have really increased sort of the engagement, the entertainment
Speaker 7: value of the game, and so I'm paying a lot
Speaker 7: of attention to that. And in fact, I've used the
Speaker 7: you know, the pitch clock, the sort of the increasing
Speaker 7: the size of the base et cetera. In meetings at
Speaker 7: the NBA to say, you know, if baseball, which is
Speaker 7: more locked into tradition, and I don't I don't mean
Speaker 7: that negatively than any other sport. And part of what
Speaker 7: baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're
Speaker 7: able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid
Speaker 7: to look at changes as well. So, you know, I
Speaker 7: also think though we have made a series of changes
Speaker 7: over the years, they haven't been as dramatic in many cases.
Speaker 7: You know, we've we've changed the format in the last
Speaker 7: two minutes of the games so we wouldn't have as
Speaker 7: many stoppages. We have a coaches challenge now, you know
Speaker 7: we did. We had the hack a shack issue. We
Speaker 7: changed the rule there. I mean, there's there's this. We
Speaker 7: added the Cup, you know, which we now have. We
Speaker 7: have a play in tournament. I mean, so we've made
Speaker 7: significant changes.
Speaker 2: I have an idea before I let you go, how
Speaker 2: about we take away the three point line during the
Speaker 2: in season tournament.
Speaker 7: Interesting, I mean, it's it's like the issue there.
Speaker 3: Interesting.
Speaker 7: I'm not like I like the three point shot. I
Speaker 7: mean let me take a step back. I mean, if
Speaker 7: you think from when you first started covering the NBA
Speaker 7: to the skill level of big men now, I mean,
Speaker 7: look at Victor Webben Yama, look at Jannis, you know,
Speaker 7: look look at Yo Kisch. Look what these guys can do.
Speaker 7: You know, it was it was like the fact that
Speaker 7: they are so skillful that they can shoot from these
Speaker 7: kinds of distances, shoot in the way guards used to
Speaker 7: be able to, Like, like, is there too much three
Speaker 7: point shooting in certain situations? Maybe? But I also don't
Speaker 7: want to overreact to what we're seeing the game, because
Speaker 7: the game goes through transitions. I think the game is
Speaker 7: incredible right now. They I think some of the criticism
Speaker 7: is a bit unfair, and that goes back to my
Speaker 7: earlier point that I think the league needs to do
Speaker 7: a better job teaching about the game so that there's
Speaker 7: real appreciation for what people are seeing out there. And again,
Speaker 7: like you know, ratings are fine, we have enormous global interest.
Speaker 7: People like what they're seeing right now on the floor.
Speaker 7: So I don't necessarily buy into the premise that it
Speaker 7: would be a better game if you if you eliminated
Speaker 7: three point shooting.
Speaker 2: How about we make the floor like a pinball machine
Speaker 2: where the three point line lights up, and when it
Speaker 2: lights up, then you know you're able to take threes
Speaker 2: like you could. You could really dress up the floor.
Speaker 2: You guys did a pretty good job at the end season,
Speaker 2: But why don't we make it pinball like I don't.
Speaker 7: Know if you remember, but last year at All Star
Speaker 7: on All Star Saturday Night, we had literally a lit court. Yeah,
Speaker 7: And we've played with things like that. I mean, like
Speaker 7: I have one foot in sort of the traditionalist camp,
Speaker 7: you know, and I really do care about the game,
Speaker 7: and I think it's so special that I think when
Speaker 7: you moved to that place that where it seems to gimmicky,
Speaker 7: and I don't think, and I think what baseball did?
Speaker 7: They found right down the middle path where they preserved
Speaker 7: what's so great about that game, but found some ways
Speaker 7: to speed it up. I think have been very effective.
Speaker 7: So we're open here. We talk a lot about potential
Speaker 7: change of the game. I just add back to some
Speaker 7: notion of a forty point of a forty minute game.
Speaker 7: I mean, because this game is so global. One of
Speaker 7: the things we'd like to see over time is creating
Speaker 7: a more consistent set of rules globally around the game,
Speaker 7: like you know again the Olympic basketball. I'm sure you
Speaker 7: watched you know on NBC and Peacock the US, Serbia,
Speaker 7: US France. Those people are basketball fans. Some are saying
Speaker 7: those are two of the best games they ever saw. Concidentally,
Speaker 7: if you went to a forty minute game with the
Speaker 7: issues around load management and resting, it would be the
Speaker 7: equivalent of I don't know the exact math, taking like
Speaker 7: fifteen games off this season. I like that so and
Speaker 7: I don't think most fans would be disappointed if it
Speaker 7: was a two hour presentation instead of a you know,
Speaker 7: our game is actually about two hours and fifteen.
Speaker 2: Well, you're going to find out the reaction the rest
Speaker 2: of the day as this gets posted that you're considering
Speaker 2: ten minute quarters.
Speaker 7: I gotta go, well, I didn't fully say you asked
Speaker 7: me for some ideas.
Speaker 8: I till that quite at that level.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's a vote this week, Commissioner. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying social media will look at this and go, hey,
Speaker 2: that sounds great. Now we got guys playing more. Maybe
Speaker 2: the games are more intense and it's forty minute games,
Speaker 2: and it's great for TV, great for everybody for another day,
Speaker 2: for another day.
Speaker 3: I have to go.
Speaker 7: Muriels in Jackson Square in New Orleans. Okay, Murials, I'm
Speaker 7: not sure. In all due respect to your caller, I
Speaker 7: would go to I'd go to New Orleans for sushi.
Speaker 3: Can I drop your name at Muriels.
Speaker 7: I'm not sure it'll be helpful, but absolutely.
Speaker 3: Do you have an open tab at that restaurant?
Speaker 7: I will if you go?
Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. Uh, but I'm not going alone. I'm bringing
Speaker 2: my my, my whole team here. Yes, as they're going.
Speaker 7: With longtime listener.
Speaker 2: Day great, great to catch up with you again. Thank you, Commissioner.
Speaker 2: Ye bye bye, that's Commissioner Adam Silver. Well.
Speaker 3: We'll take a break back after this.
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Speaker 2: I let the interview get away from me with the Commissioner.
Speaker 2: I let him talk a little too much. It happened,
Speaker 2: so damn. I just don't I don't like cutting people off.
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to go to a variety of topics,
Speaker 2: and it took a while because look, he's coming on
Speaker 2: he wants to he wants to promote something.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's there's a quid pro quo and I'm going to
Speaker 2: rough myself up over this interview, but I thought we
Speaker 2: got something at the very end with imagine if you
Speaker 2: did ten minute quarters forty minute games, not forty eight,
Speaker 2: and if you're going to be reducing the amount of games,
Speaker 2: like you take all those minutes, he said, you know
Speaker 2: it's like fifteen games. Now you're still going to play
Speaker 2: all the games. Maybe you'll get players to play maybe
Speaker 2: a more intense game. And I don't know if there's
Speaker 2: any downside because if you're going to make it a
Speaker 2: two hour window that you're going to have a game
Speaker 2: and you're going to do ten minute quarters so it's
Speaker 2: forty minutes, you're still getting the number of games eighty
Speaker 2: two games in there. You know, unless there's commercial inventory
Speaker 2: that you're going to lose a lot of revenue there.
Speaker 2: I could see, because that's the European model. It's you know,
Speaker 2: ten minute quarter, it's forty minutes. I don't know if
Speaker 2: we would complain. I don't know if we would really
Speaker 2: notice it. Yes, Marvin, do you think.
Speaker 9: The players would object because of maybe points and rebounds,
Speaker 9: just stats in general.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's attached to incentives, but
Speaker 2: I don't think there's no stats that we care about.
Speaker 2: I mean, what stat in the NBA? Do you care
Speaker 2: about triple doubles? Maybe averaging thirty or I don't know, yeah, Marv.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just from a historical perspective, like, oh, you only
Speaker 9: average twenty six points a game instead of thirty two
Speaker 9: points a game. Oh well, there was only forty minute
Speaker 9: you know, games when I was playing, as opposed to
Speaker 9: four minute.
Speaker 2: How many times do we bring up the number of
Speaker 2: games that were in an NFL season?
Speaker 7: You know? O J.
Speaker 2: Simpson still this single season rushing leader. He did his
Speaker 2: in fourteen games, but nobody brings that up. I don't
Speaker 2: think we care about stats anymore because we've been fooled
Speaker 2: by stats, certain with baseball. I just don't think it's
Speaker 2: that important basketball. What stat do you really care about?
Speaker 9: I just met for the players when it's a contract
Speaker 9: negotiating time, or just from a historical perspective.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't worry about
Speaker 2: that if I'm the NBA. But you know, if you're
Speaker 2: going to have stats, do you have incentive causes bonuses
Speaker 2: in your contract? Then I can understand where that would
Speaker 2: be an issue. All right, two hours in the books,
Speaker 2: one more ago, Fritzy Dylan, Marvin Paula, Yours truly,