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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. It's hour two on this Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: The NBA Commissioner Adam Silver will stop by in about

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes from now. We'll hear from Seaton on the

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Speaker 3: All right, poll question for hour two is going to be.

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Speaker 4: All right, Dan, this is a courtesy of Paul Okay,

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Speaker 4: NFL career. You'd rather have twelve seasons, six times Pro bowler,

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Speaker 4: never an All Pro retired by choice, or six seasons,

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Speaker 4: six times All Pro and retire early due to injury

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Speaker 4: sort of the Pro Bowl All Pro debate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to fix the Pro Bowl. I mean

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Speaker 2: not the festivities. I can't fix that. That's not fixable,

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Speaker 2: but the designation. We keep saying we have to add

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Speaker 2: a the scarlet letter Pro Bowl ulternate alternate here, Yes

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 5: As long as it wasn't a life altering injury. I

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Speaker 5: think I would take that second one. Six times six

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Speaker 5: All pros and unfortunately you had a ballot early because

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Speaker 5: of injury and not because you decided you didn't want

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Speaker 5: to play anymore.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the right answer.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, pull a lot of people I think will lean

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Speaker 6: towards the longer, very goodish career than the awesome six

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Speaker 6: year career.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to reveal those players.

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Speaker 6: I don't have any names, actually, oh you don't, but

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Speaker 6: like Patrick Willis is a good example. The linebacker I

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Speaker 6: think he was.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were basing this off.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's not Whose stats would you haunt oh, oh, Okay,

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Speaker 6: it's more of a hypothetical long really good career or

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Speaker 6: unbelievable short career.

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Speaker 3: Okay, would you rather be Frank Gore or Terrell Davis?

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Speaker 7: There you go?

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Speaker 3: How about that classic? How about that?

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Speaker 2: Would you rather be Curtis Martin or Terrell Davis or

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Speaker 2: Gail says. I'm gonna take Trell Davis and Gail says, Now,

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Speaker 2: Curtis Martin's Hall of Famer. Frank gore'e got fifteen thousand yards,

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Speaker 2: isn't he? I'm guessing he's going to be a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer. Been a little too long, I think you think. Wow, buddy,

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Speaker 2: I'm glad he played a little longer for this question.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's a prime example there of what you

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Speaker 2: want with Canada a Canada b Yes, Paul.

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Speaker 6: Frank is perfect for this. He made five Pro Bowls,

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Speaker 6: never went over thirteen hundred yards in any of those season.

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Speaker 2: And how many yards did he end up in his career?

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Speaker 2: Fifteen thousand, sixteen thousand on the nose? God, I think

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Speaker 2: that's third all time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Is that not third all time?

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Speaker 3: I think it's second all time.

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Speaker 6: I think sweetness is sixteen seven, twenty six ish and

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Speaker 6: I never everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I like how you act like you're like I think

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Speaker 2: Walter Payton had sixteen thousand, twenty seven yard.

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Speaker 6: There's nothing I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Tom Well compiler instead of pro Did Walter

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Speaker 3: Payton have that many yarns?

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Speaker 7: Dang?

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Speaker 6: Be easy, he should have had thirty thousand.

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Speaker 8: He should for that strike here.

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Speaker 3: Of course he should.

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Speaker 8: Touchdown in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh, oh easy easy. Don't get Paul riled up.

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Speaker 6: You make fun of my family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but not Walter Peyton, yes, Marton.

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Speaker 9: So Frank Gore is the rafaol Paul Marrow of the

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Speaker 9: NFL without steroids.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: And viagra checking No, remember he did the commercial.

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Speaker 6: Yes, if you're gonna accuse me of performance dancing, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 6: it's in the bedroom.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like if yeah, hey he's on peds he is, Yeah, viagra.

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Speaker 8: I've never used steroids.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: He knows how to swing up bat Thank you, Todd

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Speaker 3: too easy writes itself. So you got emmittt at what

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Speaker 3: eighteen thousand?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Emmitt Smith is the all time rushing leader at

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Speaker 6: eighteen three fifty five. Walter sixteen seven twenty six nailed it.

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Speaker 6: Frank Or at sixteen thousand, Barry Sanders fifteen two fifty ish.

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Speaker 6: The next closest active player Derrick Henry at eleven five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I Barry Sanders would have been the all

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Speaker 2: time record holder if he won two. He just was like, Eh,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to play anymore. Imagine your franchise is

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Speaker 2: so bad that two first Mallon Hall of Famers decided

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Speaker 2: not to continue to play. Calvin Johnson and Barry Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Oh look who's there? Oh look at that face?

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Speaker 3: Seaton encounter.

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Speaker 2: Don't get too close with the camera there, Yo, seating

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Speaker 2: on the road. What is the what is the location?

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Speaker 10: We're in Greensboro, North Carolina. Right now. I'm with my

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Speaker 10: guy Phil Collins. Believe it or not, this.

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Speaker 3: Year Phil Collins is there.

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Speaker 11: Yes, in the MAKEO world, Phil Collins is a big deal.

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Speaker 11: I think he's like the largest owner of Maco's here.

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Speaker 11: And then there's the other Phil Collins that would be

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Speaker 11: more familiar with.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no no no.

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Speaker 11: I resisted every urge in my body to make some

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Speaker 11: type of reference. I was like, I can't, but he's

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Speaker 11: he's Luckily, he's a big Alabama guy. So we talked

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Speaker 11: to Alabama Football and Nick saban Nil for a little bit.

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Speaker 11: No reference is to anything Genesis related.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the highlight so far has been, let's.

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Speaker 11: See, we had a really good dinner last night at

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Speaker 11: a place called Machete or I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not really sure which.

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Speaker 11: Me and the French kid haven't killed each other just yet,

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Speaker 11: but that's could be on the way.

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Speaker 10: But no, we're doing okay, we're doing okay.

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Speaker 11: There's been at almost every place that we've stopped so far,

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Speaker 11: at a make a location, somebody there is really into drifting,

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Speaker 11: you know, like cars where they're like sliding around each other.

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Speaker 11: So that's been pretty cool. That's actually there's like a

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Speaker 11: huge I don't know, I mean we're at a garage,

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Speaker 11: so of course people it's positive popular there, but drifting

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Speaker 11: is a big thing.

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Speaker 10: It's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 3: And where are we off to today?

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Speaker 11: After Greensboro, We're going to Charlotte for a quick stop there.

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Speaker 10: Then we're going to Greenville, South Carolina.

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Speaker 11: Uh, and then maybe if we have enough time, onto Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: You're still on target for Friday in New Orleans?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we should make New Orleans on Friday. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: that's the plan.

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Speaker 11: But then we got to stop in Birmingham, Gulf Court

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Speaker 11: a couple other places.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing all the make O people, that's it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, they're treating us well. We got coffee and

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Speaker 10: donuts here.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty sweet, all right, got it made you?

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Speaker 2: And the French kid does he have his watermelon vape

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Speaker 2: pen with him on it?

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Speaker 3: He's not. He's not vaping.

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Speaker 10: No, he isn't.

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Speaker 11: He hasn't been vaping at all this time. It's been

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Speaker 11: this trip, I could say, for a lot of different

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Speaker 11: eason that.

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Speaker 10: Has been much different than the previous two. No vaping, no, yeah,

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Speaker 10: it's not his best behavior.

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Speaker 3: And no no accidents yet.

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Speaker 11: No, no, the ban is in exactly the same shape

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Speaker 11: as when we left.

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Speaker 3: Good. Well, good to see you. We'll I'll chat with

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Speaker 3: you tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, all right, see you guys.

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Speaker 2: That's seat O'Connor on the road courtesy of Mako the

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Speaker 2: great folks. There are new partner on the road to

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Speaker 2: New Orleans in time for the Super Bowl. A couple

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Speaker 2: of phone calls in here. The Saints are still looking

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Speaker 2: for a coach. It looks like that's going to be

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. When other names have taken their name out

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Speaker 2: of the hopper. That usually means that they're being told

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Speaker 2: they're not going to be the next head coach. Does

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy get in the media for a year. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how he'd be on TV. He doesn't strike

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Speaker 2: me as you know, charismatic. I mean, he's not Rex Ryan,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know. If you get him in a

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Speaker 2: lab and let him, you know, dissect things, and maybe

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Speaker 2: he could be you know, he could have a coming

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Speaker 2: out party.

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Speaker 6: We were like, man, where's this been? Yes, Paulin, you

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Speaker 6: know what the interesting thing or challenging thing or Mike

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Speaker 6: McCarthy would be. We and other people would want to

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Speaker 6: ask him questions about dealing with everything that is the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys coach. And if you remember when Jason Garrett started

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Speaker 6: doing this, he was hesitant to give you details about

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Speaker 6: Jerry Jones because he wanted another job and you got

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Speaker 6: to keep things in house if you're a possible NFL.

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Speaker 2: Coach, Well, he would say, oh, you always asked me

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Speaker 2: these questions. I'm like, yes, that's my job, yes, Marvin, But.

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Speaker 9: Could you imagine Mike McCarthy doing ex's and O's plays

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Speaker 9: and Cowboys fans going where was this when you were

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys head coach.

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Speaker 5: Yes, DoD can you throw me in the Bothberg Cardinals

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Speaker 5: Titans game just to give it a shot.

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Speaker 2: And No, I don't think I want him calling a game.

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Speaker 2: I think he would have to be set up in

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Speaker 2: a studio where you're going to him for something really specific.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we could have Mike Gun Maybe I could ask

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Speaker 2: him if he wants to join us towards the draft

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Speaker 2: or by the way, the Senior Bowl. They're doing measurables

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Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl. It's the Senior Bowl. The combine

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Speaker 2: before the combine? Is it pre combine? All measurements the

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Speaker 2: I'd have taken away the thunder from the combine, Jalen Milrow.

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Speaker 2: Small hands, Marvin, you should have broke that story.

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Speaker 8: I thought we were over this.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 2: Never are you in a small hands support groups when.

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Speaker 3: It cuts of coffee in the waiting room?

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Speaker 8: Just yeah, I need to be around here, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 9: I can't believe one day, at six thirty in the morning,

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Speaker 9: measuring hands turned into this.

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Speaker 2: I know, I didn't know what was going on when

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Speaker 2: Ray said, oh, we got to measure everybody's hands, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the big reveal and seatan goes,

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Speaker 2: I know I have the smallest hands, and when we

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Speaker 2: read the results in it was like the smallest hands Marvin. Oh,

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Speaker 2: greatest day aside from Seaton's son being born and getting

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Speaker 2: married was that day.

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Speaker 9: Yes, we need a poll question because I'm not sure

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Speaker 9: if that's the right answer. His hands being bigger than

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Speaker 9: mine might be up there.

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Speaker 12: So thanks for entertaining the nation and with tender love

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Speaker 12: and care. So I'll get fritzy, all right.

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Speaker 2: That's Jason Utah y. Yes, by the way, people are

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Speaker 8: It's just baggy. You're swimming in that thing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to thank you? Uh Ryan in North Carolina?

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Speaker 12: Who wants Dan Patrick to retire in three years?

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Speaker 7: Dan.

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Speaker 12: I'm a fellow mayonnaise hater. He knows that, and so

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the Dan nuts out on Sunday. I'm still

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Speaker 2: the cool kids go to the five o'clock Yeah, five

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Speaker 6: Are trying to find a restaurant. There was a big

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Speaker 6: It's hard to get a table for twelve. I know

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Speaker 3: As long as Fritzie's not at my table, I'm good.

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Speaker 8: Sounds delicious.

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Speaker 8: I've been practicing trying to eat with my mouth clothes.

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Speaker 8: It's very difficult. Yes, Marmon, is Dylan with us Sunday Night?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, what do you mean? Oh? This is the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wasn't sure if it was just Danette's.

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Speaker 2: I hit them all, you do? Yeah, everybody, everybody who's

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Speaker 2: I don't want a table of twelve, just two tables

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Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of the NBA for the last eleven years.

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Speaker 2: Adam Silver joining us on the program, High Commissioner, How

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm good, Dan? I need some more stuff on my desk.

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Speaker 3: What happened?

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Speaker 7: It's clean? I like all the stuff you got there, though.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got some poll with teams. Why don't you

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Speaker 2: just have a little choons keys Garre. You get bobblehead

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Speaker 7: I've got him. I just I put paper on my desk.

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Speaker 7: We have a different jobs.

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Speaker 3: What is the coolest thing in your office?

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Speaker 7: I have one of shacks shoes. It looks like a

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Speaker 3: Well, I have one too, his rebox shoe.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't it was the brand that he created.

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Speaker 8: Oukay.

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Speaker 7: I think it was like dunk Man. I think was

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Speaker 7: the brand. Okay, And it's enormous. It looks it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Well, he only gave me one. I don't know why

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Speaker 7: It gave me the other. I only have one. You

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Speaker 3: I think I have the left one, but I.

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Speaker 7: Got the right. He split the pair between us.

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Speaker 2: I got Tim duncan shoes from when they won the

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Speaker 2: one sports century athlete. They just win the NBA championship.

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Speaker 2: He comes in, I'm doing Sports Center. He's got his

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Speaker 2: I I nobody knew because we had that countdown. I

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Speaker 2: So I got Tim Duncan's shoes after the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: Did you get any Jordan stuff when you were with

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Speaker 7: No, I mean only because it wouldn't have been appropriate.

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Speaker 2: Well, when you weren't the commissioner, you could have said, hey,

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I bought a lot of Jordan shoes over the years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I I talked to who is it? Tim?

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Speaker 3: Who's the Tim the Tim? No? No, Tim? Who was

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Speaker 3: He would get Jordan's shoes.

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Speaker 2: After every NBA Finals, every title he Mike would take

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Speaker 7: And I think about the business Mike created as a

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Speaker 2: Give me the list here, like, what's top on your

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Speaker 7: I think top on my list is the transition we're

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Speaker 7: young audience. You know, they're watching more screen time than

443
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Speaker 7: ever before, but not traditional television. And I think our

444
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Speaker 7: ability to bring those games directly to them and in

445
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Speaker 7: ways they want to consume them. I'll add to that

446
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 7: as well. I think using social media to engage fans,

447
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 7: I mean, not just to interest them. I mean, like example,

448
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 7: talked about recently, Victor Wembinyama was in New York on

449
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 7: Christmas Day and then was around for two more days

450
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 7: because then he played in Brooklyn two days later, and

451
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 7: he's a chess player and he went to Washington Square Park.

452
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 7: I'm sure you saw that clip. Something like one hundred

453
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 7: million people you know a week saw video of him

454
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Speaker 7: playing chess in Washington Square Park. And our viewership, which

455
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 7: is fine, pales though in comparison to the social media

456
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 7: following of these players and the league, that number, you know,

457
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 7: on a global basis is over two billion. And I

458
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 7: think sort of my job is to get more basketball

459
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 7: lovers to watch the NBA and watch it longer. And

460
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 7: I think there's an opportunity to use social media to

461
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 7: create more engagement, and not just to show how multifaceted

462
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,919
Speaker 7: Wemby is and he loves to play chess, but to

463
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 7: teach people about the game, to celebrate the game, to

464
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 7: demonstrate why I know you you're a college basketball player,

465
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 7: I know you love the game, like why this is

466
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 7: such an incredible game, and help people better understand what

467
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 7: they're watching, understand the finer points of the game and

468
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 7: fair to be critical of it at times too, and

469
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 7: you know, should there be less three point shooting, et cetera.

470
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Speaker 7: I mean that's something we're very focused on. But when

471
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Speaker 7: I day in and day out, you know, and I

472
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Speaker 7: have all the very streaming service is and have all

473
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Speaker 7: different programming available to me, I don't think it's an

474
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Speaker 7: accident that people are increasingly gravitating towards premium live sports,

475
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 7: not just basketball, but obviously football, hockey, baseball, et cetera. WNBA. Now,

476
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 7: I think because people crave something that's live, something that's

477
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 7: you know, unscripted, something that can be entertaining as well,

478
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 7: and I think the basketball in the NBA can be

479
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 7: all those things. But we also our job has become

480
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 7: that much harder because we're competing against so many different

481
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 7: forms of entertainment. It's podcasts and social media and unlimited

482
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,199
Speaker 7: numbers of channels and programming, and so we have to

483
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 7: up our game too to make sure that we're finding

484
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 7: ways to engage viewers and again to teach people about

485
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Speaker 7: the game. And that's been one of my frustrations. I

486
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 7: think that I don't blame the broadcasters, and it's hard.

487
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 7: You've broadcast a lot of basketball that the game's moving

488
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 7: so quickly. You don't have the space that you might

489
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 7: have in football or in baseball to be talking more

490
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 7: about what's unfolding before you.

491
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Speaker 2: But what bothers you more the ratings or the coverage

492
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Speaker 2: of the ratings.

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Speaker 7: The ratings are fine. I mean we're we're roughly even

494
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Speaker 7: with last season for the regular season, which was the

495
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 7: highest ratings for a regular season in four years. There

496
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Speaker 7: is I get it. There was a narrative early in

497
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 7: the season we were down a bit. I you know,

498
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 7: it's you've been covering the league for a long time.

499
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Speaker 7: I mean, it seems that there's always a narrative around

500
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,959
Speaker 7: our sport. You know, too physical, too much isolation, scoring,

501
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 7: too low, you know, super teams, player empowerment. I mean

502
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 7: I could go on and on. And then the narrative

503
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 7: early in the season became the ratings are down because

504
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 7: of three point shooting. I think those are two independent issues.

505
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 7: The ratings are now about even with last year. And

506
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Speaker 7: as I said, you know, if you look more broadly

507
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 7: at other measures of game, our attendance last season was

508
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 7: the highest in the history of the league. I mean,

509
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Speaker 7: you can't look at social media over too long a

510
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 7: spectrum because it didn't exist. But if you but when

511
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 7: you add in social media, the game has never been

512
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 7: more popular in terms of the engagement. So do I

513
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 7: get frustrated about around the narrative around ratings, Yes, especially

514
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 7: when because of the decline in traditional television, decline in

515
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 7: cable homes, everyone's down a bit, so you know, Plus

516
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 7: we entered into our new deals for the next decade,

517
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 7: so I feel good about that. But I think those

518
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 7: narratives become a reality to the extent, especially even when

519
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 7: we're doing well. It's still only a significant a relatively

520
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 7: small percentage of the population that's watching live games, so

521
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 7: there's a lot of people out there who may not

522
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 7: be fans of the NBA and become consumed with that story.

523
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 7: And again, NBA seems to take a disproportionate amount of

524
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Speaker 7: that discussion. I think maybe because we're so relevant from

525
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 7: a societal standpoint, Our players have been outspoken, There's been

526
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 7: a history of activism certain cases in this league. For

527
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 7: whatever those reasons, I think, at the end of the day,

528
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 7: my job is to find more people who are inclined

529
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 7: to want to watch live sports, to want to watch basketball,

530
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 7: and convert them into NBA fans, right, let me want

531
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Speaker 7: to lose sight of that.

532
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Speaker 3: Let me do rapid fire, because there's a few topics here.

533
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Speaker 2: The NIL ruling has made college basketball more of an

534
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: attractive path for athletes in recent years. I don't know

535
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: if that changes allowing players out of high school that

536
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: you will revisit that. But what is is the NC

537
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA a friend or a foe to the NBA.

538
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 7: NCUBLEA is a great friend. In fact, Charlie Baker, who's

539
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 7: the former governor of Massachusetts, I've gotten to know well

540
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 7: over the last couple of years, we're talking about more

541
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 7: that we can do to get I mean, you remember,

542
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 7: in the not so old days, if we touched a amateur,

543
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 7: you know, high school player, we could cause them to

544
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 7: lose their eligibility. Now, of course, you know, through collectives

545
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 7: and NIL they're paid. And what we've been talking the

546
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 7: NC DOUBLEA about is we should jointly get more involved

547
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 7: in youth basketball, particularly the training of elite players. The

548
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 7: vast majority of them we'll never make it to the NBA,

549
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 7: but we'll play in college, and so we have a

550
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 7: joint interest not in developing elite players and then for

551
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 7: the broader base of players. We have a joint interest

552
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 7: in for young boys and of course young girls, getting

553
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 7: them to be more active. You know, basketball is a

554
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 7: great sport to do that, getting them again to love

555
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 7: the game. Charlie Baker himself was a college player, so

556
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 7: we're working together. I think on the specifically nil and collectives.

557
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 7: I think there's work to be done in college basketball

558
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 7: because just like in the NBA, where over successive collective

559
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 7: bargaining agreements we've helped to level the playing field in

560
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 7: terms of competition. We've had six different teams win championships

561
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: over the last six years. At the end of the day,

562
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: we're selling competition, and I think college has to work

563
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 7: through some issues where now as players in essence through

564
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 7: the portal can become essentially free agents every year. You

565
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 7: know that there's no really real salary structure, so you

566
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 7: have a lot of real, you know, out of whack

567
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 7: balance in terms of team's ability to compete. And I

568
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,239
Speaker 7: think for fans of the college game, and I'm one

569
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 7: of them, at the end of the day, you want

570
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 7: to see great competition in Division one.

571
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: Will you revisit like the G League. You've got players

572
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: who are just going to the G League. If you

573
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Speaker 2: allow them to come out of high school to the NBA,

574
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: they wouldn't be going to the G League, I would imagine, right.

575
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 7: Well, yes, but in fact, you know, back before those

576
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 7: court rulings which allowed the collectives in NIL, at the

577
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 7: urging of Condallisa Rice who oversaw a commission with the

578
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 7: NCAA and President Obama to a certain extent, we were

579
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 7: asked to create a professional track because the view was

580
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 7: it was unfair to so called force these young men

581
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 7: to go to college for a year before they came

582
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 7: into the NBA. So we weren't ready to return to

583
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 7: eighteen as the mini mage in the NBA. We stayed

584
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 7: at nineteen. But through the G League we created something

585
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 7: called Team McKnight, where we were paying players several hundred

586
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 7: thousand dollars a year in a pro track and then

587
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 7: come into the NBA. That seems like a pittance now

588
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 7: based on what players are able to earn in Division

589
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 7: one through these college programs, And frankly, I think the

590
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 7: track through these great college programs is better than what

591
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 7: we were offering them in the G League because they

592
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 7: have first class training facilities, some of the greatest coaches

593
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 7: out there, planes et cetera. That didn't make sense in

594
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 7: our economic model and still doesn't for the G League.

595
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 7: So I'm perfectly fine with them going to college. And

596
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 7: by the way, you know, what you've also seen with

597
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 7: nil and collective money is there's a big pool of

598
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 7: international players who would have stayed largely in Europe and

599
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 7: played but are now coming to play Division one basketball

600
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 7: because it's a better economic situation for them and ultimately

601
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 7: a bet probably better development too, if their goal is

602
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 7: to get into the NBA.

603
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: Give me the wildest thing that you guys have considered.

604
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's always you know, we're going to try this.

605
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: You know, the NFL doing the kickoff the way they did.

606
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy that that's what it looks like. Give

607
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: me a this has been discussed.

608
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 7: I mean one that's only been discussed a little. I

609
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 7: wouldn't put it necessarily in the category of being so wild.

610
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 7: Is potentially two free throws for a foul and a

611
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 7: three point shot. That's I don't necessarily think I would

612
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 7: do it in the last two minutes of the game,

613
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 7: But I think that's something interesting, something else that I'm

614
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 7: a fan of, and I'm probably in a minority as

615
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 7: we get more involved in global basketball. The NBA is

616
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: the only league that plays forty eight minutes, and I

617
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 7: would be I am a fan of four ten minute quarters.

618
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that many others are. I mean, putting

619
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 7: inside what it means for records and things like that,

620
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 7: I think that a two hour format for a game

621
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 7: is more consistent sort of modern television habits. I don't

622
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 7: think people in arenas aren't asking us to shorten the game,

623
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 7: but I think as a television program being two hours,

624
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 7: that's Olympic basketball as being is two hours, you know,

625
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 7: college basketball courses.

626
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: But if you like it, I'd say it has kind

627
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: of a little bit of a push there.

628
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game.

629
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 7: I mean, I think something like that would have to

630
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 7: be talked more about over time.

631
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 3: I mean, incidentally dramatic commissioner.

632
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I I I'm a fan of what baseball did.

633
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 7: I'm a baseball fan, and I think some of those

634
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 7: changes have really increased sort of the engagement, the entertainment

635
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 7: value of the game, and so I'm paying a lot

636
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 7: of attention to that. And in fact, I've used the

637
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 7: you know, the pitch clock, the sort of the increasing

638
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 7: the size of the base et cetera. In meetings at

639
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 7: the NBA to say, you know, if baseball, which is

640
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 7: more locked into tradition, and I don't I don't mean

641
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 7: that negatively than any other sport. And part of what

642
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 7: baseball provides is the tradition, the legacy that if they're

643
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 7: able to make those changes, certainly we shouldn't be afraid

644
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 7: to look at changes as well. So, you know, I

645
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 7: also think though we have made a series of changes

646
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 7: over the years, they haven't been as dramatic in many cases.

647
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 7: You know, we've we've changed the format in the last

648
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 7: two minutes of the games so we wouldn't have as

649
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 7: many stoppages. We have a coaches challenge now, you know

650
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 7: we did. We had the hack a shack issue. We

651
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: changed the rule there. I mean, there's there's this. We

652
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 7: added the Cup, you know, which we now have. We

653
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 7: have a play in tournament. I mean, so we've made

654
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 7: significant changes.

655
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: I have an idea before I let you go, how

656
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 2: about we take away the three point line during the

657
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: in season tournament.

658
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Speaker 7: Interesting, I mean, it's it's like the issue there.

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Speaker 3: Interesting.

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Speaker 7: I'm not like I like the three point shot. I

661
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 7: mean let me take a step back. I mean, if

662
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Speaker 7: you think from when you first started covering the NBA

663
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Speaker 7: to the skill level of big men now, I mean,

664
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Speaker 7: look at Victor Webben Yama, look at Jannis, you know,

665
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Speaker 7: look look at Yo Kisch. Look what these guys can do.

666
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Speaker 7: You know, it was it was like the fact that

667
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 7: they are so skillful that they can shoot from these

668
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Speaker 7: kinds of distances, shoot in the way guards used to

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Speaker 7: be able to, Like, like, is there too much three

670
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Speaker 7: point shooting in certain situations? Maybe? But I also don't

671
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 7: want to overreact to what we're seeing the game, because

672
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Speaker 7: the game goes through transitions. I think the game is

673
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Speaker 7: incredible right now. They I think some of the criticism

674
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Speaker 7: is a bit unfair, and that goes back to my

675
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 7: earlier point that I think the league needs to do

676
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Speaker 7: a better job teaching about the game so that there's

677
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Speaker 7: real appreciation for what people are seeing out there. And again,

678
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 7: like you know, ratings are fine, we have enormous global interest.

679
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 7: People like what they're seeing right now on the floor.

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00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 7: So I don't necessarily buy into the premise that it

681
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 7: would be a better game if you if you eliminated

682
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 7: three point shooting.

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Speaker 2: How about we make the floor like a pinball machine

684
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Speaker 2: where the three point line lights up, and when it

685
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: lights up, then you know you're able to take threes

686
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: like you could. You could really dress up the floor.

687
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Speaker 2: You guys did a pretty good job at the end season,

688
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Speaker 2: But why don't we make it pinball like I don't.

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Speaker 7: Know if you remember, but last year at All Star

690
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 7: on All Star Saturday Night, we had literally a lit court. Yeah,

691
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Speaker 7: And we've played with things like that. I mean, like

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Speaker 7: I have one foot in sort of the traditionalist camp,

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Speaker 7: you know, and I really do care about the game,

694
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Speaker 7: and I think it's so special that I think when

695
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 7: you moved to that place that where it seems to gimmicky,

696
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 7: and I don't think, and I think what baseball did?

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00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 7: They found right down the middle path where they preserved

698
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 7: what's so great about that game, but found some ways

699
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 7: to speed it up. I think have been very effective.

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Speaker 7: So we're open here. We talk a lot about potential

701
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Speaker 7: change of the game. I just add back to some

702
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Speaker 7: notion of a forty point of a forty minute game.

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Speaker 7: I mean, because this game is so global. One of

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00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 7: the things we'd like to see over time is creating

705
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 7: a more consistent set of rules globally around the game,

706
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 7: like you know again the Olympic basketball. I'm sure you

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00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 7: watched you know on NBC and Peacock the US, Serbia,

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Speaker 7: US France. Those people are basketball fans. Some are saying

709
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 7: those are two of the best games they ever saw. Concidentally,

710
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Speaker 7: if you went to a forty minute game with the

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00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 7: issues around load management and resting, it would be the

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 7: equivalent of I don't know the exact math, taking like

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Speaker 7: fifteen games off this season. I like that so and

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Speaker 7: I don't think most fans would be disappointed if it

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00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 7: was a two hour presentation instead of a you know,

716
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 7: our game is actually about two hours and fifteen.

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00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Well, you're going to find out the reaction the rest

718
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: of the day as this gets posted that you're considering

719
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Speaker 2: ten minute quarters.

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Speaker 7: I gotta go, well, I didn't fully say you asked

721
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Speaker 7: me for some ideas.

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Speaker 8: I till that quite at that level.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there's a vote this week, Commissioner. I'm

724
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: just saying social media will look at this and go, hey,

725
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: that sounds great. Now we got guys playing more. Maybe

726
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: the games are more intense and it's forty minute games,

727
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: and it's great for TV, great for everybody for another day,

728
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 2: for another day.

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00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: I have to go.

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Speaker 7: Muriels in Jackson Square in New Orleans. Okay, Murials, I'm

731
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 7: not sure. In all due respect to your caller, I

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Speaker 7: would go to I'd go to New Orleans for sushi.

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Speaker 3: Can I drop your name at Muriels.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure it'll be helpful, but absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Do you have an open tab at that restaurant?

736
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Speaker 7: I will if you go?

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Speaker 2: Okay, awesome. Uh, but I'm not going alone. I'm bringing

738
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 2: my my, my whole team here. Yes, as they're going.

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Speaker 7: With longtime listener.

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Speaker 2: Day great, great to catch up with you again. Thank you, Commissioner.

741
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Speaker 2: Ye bye bye, that's Commissioner Adam Silver. Well.

742
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Speaker 3: We'll take a break back after this.

743
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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

744
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

745
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

746
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 2: I let the interview get away from me with the Commissioner.

747
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 2: I let him talk a little too much. It happened,

748
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: so damn. I just don't I don't like cutting people off.

749
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: But I'm trying to go to a variety of topics,

750
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Speaker 2: and it took a while because look, he's coming on

751
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: he wants to he wants to promote something.

752
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: I get it.

753
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: It's there's a quid pro quo and I'm going to

754
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: rough myself up over this interview, but I thought we

755
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: got something at the very end with imagine if you

756
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Speaker 2: did ten minute quarters forty minute games, not forty eight,

757
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Speaker 2: and if you're going to be reducing the amount of games,

758
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: like you take all those minutes, he said, you know

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Speaker 2: it's like fifteen games. Now you're still going to play

760
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Speaker 2: all the games. Maybe you'll get players to play maybe

761
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Speaker 2: a more intense game. And I don't know if there's

762
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Speaker 2: any downside because if you're going to make it a

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Speaker 2: two hour window that you're going to have a game

764
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Speaker 2: and you're going to do ten minute quarters so it's

765
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Speaker 2: forty minutes, you're still getting the number of games eighty

766
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Speaker 2: two games in there. You know, unless there's commercial inventory

767
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: that you're going to lose a lot of revenue there.

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: I could see, because that's the European model. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: ten minute quarter, it's forty minutes. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we would complain. I don't know if we would really

771
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Speaker 2: notice it. Yes, Marvin, do you think.

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Speaker 9: The players would object because of maybe points and rebounds,

773
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 9: just stats in general.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if that's attached to incentives, but

775
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't think there's no stats that we care about.

776
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: I mean, what stat in the NBA? Do you care

777
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: about triple doubles? Maybe averaging thirty or I don't know, yeah, Marv.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just from a historical perspective, like, oh, you only

779
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Speaker 9: average twenty six points a game instead of thirty two

780
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Speaker 9: points a game. Oh well, there was only forty minute

781
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Speaker 9: you know, games when I was playing, as opposed to

782
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Speaker 9: four minute.

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Speaker 2: How many times do we bring up the number of

784
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 2: games that were in an NFL season?

785
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Speaker 7: You know? O J.

786
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: Simpson still this single season rushing leader. He did his

787
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: in fourteen games, but nobody brings that up. I don't

788
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: think we care about stats anymore because we've been fooled

789
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 2: by stats, certain with baseball. I just don't think it's

790
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: that important basketball. What stat do you really care about?

791
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 9: I just met for the players when it's a contract

792
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 9: negotiating time, or just from a historical perspective.

793
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't. I wouldn't worry about

794
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: that if I'm the NBA. But you know, if you're

795
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 2: going to have stats, do you have incentive causes bonuses

796
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: in your contract? Then I can understand where that would

797
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: be an issue. All right, two hours in the books,

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Speaker 2: one more ago, Fritzy Dylan, Marvin Paula, Yours truly,