Speaker 1: I am all in. That's you. I am all in
Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody,
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. It's very very
Speaker 1: early in the morning in southern California. But my intrepid crew,
Speaker 1: Danielle Romo from the Berkeley Hotel, Amy Sugarman, Tara Suit
Speaker 1: they have all decided to join me once again. I
Speaker 1: am so appreciative. Good morning, ladies, Good morning. It's a
Speaker 1: big day. It's a big day. Why is it a
Speaker 1: big day. Oh, because it's a it's a season prem
Speaker 1: isn't it. It did not. It did not, It did not,
Speaker 1: it was It was in a laugh right. It was hysterical.
Speaker 1: Actually it felt like though I will say, let's let's
Speaker 1: pretend to that normal episode. I know you guys know
Speaker 1: this how many pages or whatever? How many words pages
Speaker 1: per script? This felt and sixty pages. That's more pages
Speaker 1: than a normal hour show. And this felt like double that.
Speaker 1: This felt like it had So I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have one random question. So like, luckily for us,
Speaker 1: we don't have to wait months for the next season,
Speaker 1: you know, to watch the next episode. What is that
Speaker 1: on the acting end? Like do you go right into
Speaker 1: another season or take time off, we take the summer off.
Speaker 1: It's like high school. Yeah, oh that's so cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we did. We did freshman, sophomore, junior, senior, and
Speaker 1: then we got our graduate degrees. Then we got a masters,
Speaker 1: and then we did a PhD. I've always wondered that, like,
Speaker 1: do actors just go right into the next series season? Okay, no, No,
Speaker 1: you need a month to recover after shooting for nine months,
Speaker 1: and the girls probably needed two months or three months
Speaker 1: to recover. So yeah, people not go and do other
Speaker 1: things normally because it was so much work. Like you
Speaker 1: know how some people, some actors do a move in summer.
Speaker 1: If you can get the work, yeah, you do it.
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta you know, you gotta strike while
Speaker 1: the iron's hot. Right, If you're on the air and
Speaker 1: somebody wants to work with you on your hiatus, yeah
Speaker 1: you go run and do it. Sure, Yeah, you suck
Speaker 1: it up and do it. You know, because after the
Speaker 1: show's off and the heat's off, you know, those offers
Speaker 1: dry up, so right right right, they certainly do. Anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring up so but we'll move on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's move on. Let's move on, all right, Danielle,
Speaker 1: I guess you'll take us away. He's taking us away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll take you away. You're gonna synopsis size for us
Speaker 1: in the morning. I got some coffee and I'm ready
Speaker 1: for the synopsis. Okay. Season four, Episode one, Ballrooms in
Speaker 1: Biscotti Air date September three, lor L and Rory turned
Speaker 1: from their backpacking trip with loads of gifts for everyone
Speaker 1: except for Kirk and Luke. Speaking of Luke, he drops
Speaker 1: a bombshell of what really happened on the cruise with Nicole.
Speaker 1: Rory is leaving for Yale sooner than she anticipated, and
Speaker 1: Taylor gives her a hard time about leaving the town behind.
Speaker 1: This is the great thing about this episode. They put
Speaker 1: a clock on it. And I love that when they
Speaker 1: put a clock on it, right, because what that means, well,
Speaker 1: you know when they put a time time signature on it.
Speaker 1: You know, you put a clock on something in a movie,
Speaker 1: like you know, like Speed It had a clock a day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is that bus is going to blow up if it
Speaker 1: goes under fifty miles or whatever? You know, if if
Speaker 1: if it's like you know, and the audience anticipating, oh god,
Speaker 1: you know, she had to go to school, they had
Speaker 1: to get yea. So once that clock kicked in, it
Speaker 1: was like, we're after the races here, and they have
Speaker 1: so many things to get done in two days are
Speaker 1: actually one day day and a half, you know, after
Speaker 1: they found out, oh, she read that, she read it wrong.
Speaker 1: She read the uh, the orientation let her wrong. The
Speaker 1: dates got wrong. Oh no, we don't have a week.
Speaker 1: We don't have a week. We don't have nine days.
Speaker 1: I'm going Saturday. And I wonder if that's why I
Speaker 1: felt like there was double the script, because maybe it
Speaker 1: wasn't that. Maybe I just felt the like of that's
Speaker 1: right exactly, Daniel. That's the urgency that was brought to
Speaker 1: bear on the episode because they put a clock on it,
Speaker 1: and it's a really clever device, really really clever. So
Speaker 1: I don't know how you guys felt. I think I
Speaker 1: know how Amy feels. I love this episode. I laughed, Uh,
Speaker 1: I just laughed out loud, heartily, yes and um many
Speaker 1: many times throughout the script. What did you guys think?
Speaker 1: I agree? I mean, for one episode, we did not
Speaker 1: have a mention of Jess or Dean, so it was
Speaker 1: really much like very much Gilmore Girls you know, between Loria,
Speaker 1: Lie Rory and Emily, I mean a they're in there too,
Speaker 1: because between the three of them was like, this is
Speaker 1: gilmore girls, like I just loved I love that about
Speaker 1: this episode. Did you notice both are not in the credits,
Speaker 1: So the opening credits, no Jess, no Milo, and no
Speaker 1: Jared Pada Lucky in the credits anymore. I believe this
Speaker 1: is the first time we've seen Liza in the credits.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, and you are third? You move
Speaker 1: who did? Um? Your name's you did? I? Yeah, so
Speaker 1: when you know when the opening credits, so first obviously
Speaker 1: Lauren and then Alexis, and then you've moved up and
Speaker 1: you are the third one that comes on. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that. And Lauren has sort of the same images
Speaker 1: in the opening credits, but they put a new you know,
Speaker 1: video montage of Alexis, and then I think, obviously, I
Speaker 1: think you had new Oh it's the one where I'm
Speaker 1: outside the diner. I'm no longer inside the dinner on
Speaker 1: the pilot serving or the coffee. I have to watch
Speaker 1: it closer for the next episode, but I know you
Speaker 1: moved up, and I think Liza was added. I think
Speaker 1: Eliza I think Liza was in season three. I think
Speaker 1: she was listed as she was because I want to
Speaker 1: say it was in her school uniform. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: like that intro, No Milo, no, Jared's moved up. I
Speaker 1: didn't think they did that until episode seven. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm season seven for for wow, I got her baby, uh,
Speaker 1: most pooring weird as van driver on the planet. Like
Speaker 1: he didn't even say goodby, didn't even stop. You mentioned
Speaker 1: it because I thought, whoa, that's a van driver. Looks
Speaker 1: frozen like he never I mean, if you're a van driver,
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say, like have a nice night or I
Speaker 1: don't know, and he just well like that. They didn't
Speaker 1: want to give him. They didn't want to give him
Speaker 1: a line because they might have to pay. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then we come in hot with that. Bet my gosh,
Speaker 1: what a what a welcome relief that was to finally
Speaker 1: have Sally Struthers right. Yeah, and a great scene, great scene,
Speaker 1: morey was funny. That was That was a very funny scene,
Speaker 1: great old everything was great about it. Yeah, they came
Speaker 1: in just hot, like you know, it's a season for
Speaker 1: me because you're like everything's happening right away. I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine someone like when I get home from a trip,
Speaker 1: someone just like walking into my house. Get away. They
Speaker 1: were They're like, oh, like Rory's like, oh tired, Like
Speaker 1: she knows she wants to go to bed. That was
Speaker 1: a nice way of saying, like, get out of the house.
Speaker 1: But they you. It's important to note that they told
Speaker 1: her they were going to be home on a certain day.
Speaker 1: They weren't. She panicked. She's like a very mother a
Speaker 1: leaf figured. Yeah, there was no cell phones to text
Speaker 1: and be like hey we're running a day late, right,
Speaker 1: They couldn't, but they didn't. I guess they would, you
Speaker 1: could know, but like it was like that what was it?
Speaker 1: The anine texting? Yeah, they wouldn't spend the money to
Speaker 1: call from Europe. The BlackBerry the only the thing I noticed.
Speaker 1: Did any of you notice this something in Rory's bedroom?
Speaker 1: M hmm. I think she keeps one of her hats
Speaker 1: on a lamp, and I feel that that was a
Speaker 1: fire hazard. That is a fire hazard. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I've already been through a fire, right, we don't need
Speaker 1: another one. Do you guys unpack right away or wait
Speaker 1: a week? Like lor Lee check right away? I unpacked too,
Speaker 1: as soon as I can. Yeah, I walk in the
Speaker 1: I walk in suitcases, open clothes are going in the laundry.
Speaker 1: How long do you keep your like, how long for
Speaker 1: you to unpack? Scut? Um? I mean, you know, when
Speaker 1: we come back from a ski trip, I mean that
Speaker 1: stuff is still packed for the last Christmas. Kidding, but
Speaker 1: you know why. But but there's always there's always a
Speaker 1: washer dryer in the unit. So I wash everything before
Speaker 1: we packed, before we leave, and then I just keep
Speaker 1: it in the suitcase. But the dirt, Yeah, the dirty
Speaker 1: stuff I take out, but that's in a separate bag.
Speaker 1: I'm very organized about it that the the the dirty
Speaker 1: stuff does not touch the clean stuff. So that's a
Speaker 1: good move. Um, all right, I mean, let's just dig
Speaker 1: into it. I just overall, here's an overall. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: a general observation. Um. And this isn't like a this
Speaker 1: isn't new to me. It just didn't dawn on me.
Speaker 1: But it really drives home how fun it is to
Speaker 1: watch these two girls together. And it's the show, it's
Speaker 1: and and you know, I kept saying to myself, I
Speaker 1: could watch this all day, and then I realized people
Speaker 1: do watch this all day and it's because these two
Speaker 1: are so delightful together. And it's just it's just the
Speaker 1: yin and the yang of these two, because you know,
Speaker 1: Laurela is so you know, she's she's a bit loud, right,
Speaker 1: She's she's very present and energetic and full of you know,
Speaker 1: good vibes and you know, vibrating fun and funny and
Speaker 1: all this stuff. And and and and Alexa and and
Speaker 1: Rory is just kind of hanging in there and and commenting,
Speaker 1: and she's she's so much softer than her mother. And
Speaker 1: it's just a wonderful combination to watch. It's really funny.
Speaker 1: Uh And I thought Alexis was great in this episode.
Speaker 1: Just ye, well, at first I couldn't figure out what
Speaker 1: they're doing in this sort of opening scene after the credits,
Speaker 1: and then then at Donamy, Oh my gosh, they're laying
Speaker 1: out all the gifts. Yeah, but I do say flag
Speaker 1: on the play, there is no way they would bring
Speaker 1: all those gifts, including a gift for backpack and well
Speaker 1: and forget Kirk. Now Luke they might have struggled with,
Speaker 1: but they would never forget. I don't buy it, and
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have forgot Kirk. I don't
Speaker 1: think they would have forgot Luke. I was like, how
Speaker 1: do you forget Luke? Like bring back some coffee beans
Speaker 1: or something, because I think I think Laurel I was
Speaker 1: trying to put Luke out of her mind because she
Speaker 1: was so anxiety written about the potential of what could
Speaker 1: happen and what eventually did happen exactly on the cruise,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to get to that scene going order,
Speaker 1: but I cannot wait to talk about there's so much
Speaker 1: to talk about. So they've got their big backpacks on
Speaker 1: their walking through the town and then we immediately see
Speaker 1: Luke versus Taylor. Nothing has changed. They're back and it's
Speaker 1: all the same. And this is our first time we
Speaker 1: see the window between the two. You know what, I
Speaker 1: kept thinking, why was he Why was Luke so irate?
Speaker 1: It's free advertising, like anybody that comes in there. I
Speaker 1: can look into the diner goal let's go get a
Speaker 1: pie or let's get a coffee, and you know, kind
Speaker 1: of vice versa. But still that's good for that's good
Speaker 1: for Luke's business. Well, first of all, it is your building, though,
Speaker 1: and so it seems a little obnoxious they made physical
Speaker 1: changes to your building without checking with you, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But I mean he had to see the obvious boon
Speaker 1: to his business, right, not that he's lacking for customers,
Speaker 1: but anybody that's in the tailor all day or anyone
Speaker 1: in the shoppy I was thinking that that Luke just
Speaker 1: needs to curtain. Yea, just a curtain can open it.
Speaker 1: But parted exactly about the candy throwing. I mean it
Speaker 1: was just sort of like that whole thing was just
Speaker 1: a big old mess. But I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 1: They got out the biscotti two walking. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't comment on this. You guys comment on that rant.
Speaker 1: That was a classic Luke what it? I love the
Speaker 1: putting his hands through all the candy over the top.
Speaker 1: But great, Right then we see Suki. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: see Suki and she's more pregnant, and oh, I know,
Speaker 1: what did you think of? Like Suki knows at the
Speaker 1: boy and Jackson doesn't want to know. Did you find out?
Speaker 1: Did you know? Yeah? Did I know in real life?
Speaker 1: I r L. Did you find out if you were having?
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, we knew well ahead. So does anyone
Speaker 1: think Jackson's making the right call? You know, there are
Speaker 1: some people that do that, and like, good for them,
Speaker 1: but my anxiety cannot handle that. I'm too much of
Speaker 1: a planner. Yeah, no, we yeah, we. I mean I
Speaker 1: made the bedroom and and you know, had all the
Speaker 1: little I think it's little sports equipment ready for him
Speaker 1: and you know, all that stuff. I just love that
Speaker 1: Suky had it all in the shed like goes gathering
Speaker 1: gathering dust. I thought about that. It was a cute concept,
Speaker 1: just like yeah, and I think it's sort of cute
Speaker 1: that Jackson doesn't want to know and that Rory linked
Speaker 1: up with him. Huh. I wonder if there's some kind
Speaker 1: of correlation there between you know, when when when Laura
Speaker 1: Lie and Rory went to Stars Hollow they I mean
Speaker 1: she was raised in the shed at the Independence Inn, right,
Speaker 1: that's funny little and then and then and then we
Speaker 1: got another shed full of baby stuff. So and this
Speaker 1: is where we learn that something's up, something's up with Luke.
Speaker 1: What at that moment did you all think that he
Speaker 1: was broken up, that it wasn't bad and he was
Speaker 1: embarrassed by it, or you dumped him on the cruise
Speaker 1: and you know, went off with Captain Stooping or something. Daniel,
Speaker 1: what do you think yeah. In the in the beginning,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, something obviously happened on the cruise.
Speaker 1: What happened? Um, but I thought something embarrassing happened, like
Speaker 1: whether like I didn't you know, I didn't really know
Speaker 1: the extent of what we find out at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode. But but yeah, in the beginning, I
Speaker 1: was like, hmm, what happened on that cruise? But I
Speaker 1: couldn't decide or like, at that point, I couldn't figure
Speaker 1: out if you know, they were together or something weird happened.
Speaker 1: I didn't go that far. I couldn't get I thought
Speaker 1: it was I thought it was gonna be an opportunity
Speaker 1: for him to start, you know, being a little signed
Speaker 1: FELDI like, she's perfect in every way. But you know, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know they didn't go there, right, she stores right,
Speaker 1: all right, you were going to say something where she me, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a little little off topic, but not really.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Melissa McCarthy actually pregnant during the show. Oh that's
Speaker 1: such an important note because I just don't know, because
Speaker 1: I don't know what, like which season, But like, I
Speaker 1: know I heard it somewhere that she was pregnant. I
Speaker 1: just I was wondering, we'll check that. We'll check that,
Speaker 1: because it didn't look fake. She looked, I mean she looked.
Speaker 1: It was a good fake. If it was fake, they
Speaker 1: made her look pregnant. I just felt like I read
Speaker 1: that suwhere. But anyway, so I think it's um interesting
Speaker 1: that they that the writers made sure that Suki mentioned
Speaker 1: something's up with Luke. And I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was done because we know it immediately when you two
Speaker 1: see each other. But so I thought it was an
Speaker 1: interesting device, like they're giving us this sort of well
Speaker 1: here comes to narrative. Yeah, the season four or this
Speaker 1: is going to be a major theme in season four.
Speaker 1: Here we are? I mean, has Luke ever been set
Speaker 1: up like this before in an episode? Not really that
Speaker 1: I can think of. Yeah, now now is the time
Speaker 1: of Luke. Yeah, so it was it was very um yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. Then did you find out Daniel? Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she wasn't so her first I didn't think. Yeah, her
Speaker 1: first kid was two thousand seven, and this is we're
Speaker 1: still unless she had were your pregnancy, which God bless her.
Speaker 1: But now so then we head to the diner, bon jour, Luke,
Speaker 1: and off we go. So what did you think? What
Speaker 1: did you guys think of that scene where we finally
Speaker 1: get to see Luke and Lorala together again. Well, it's
Speaker 1: certainly um piques your interest in wanting to know what
Speaker 1: the heck went on because he ran away from it
Speaker 1: so many times. But it was a scene. It was
Speaker 1: a funny scene. Yeah, so okay, So what do you
Speaker 1: do you think Luke would have told her right away?
Speaker 1: Or do you think he would have sort of gotta go,
Speaker 1: I got what's your you know, like, did that feel authentic?
Speaker 1: I do? No, I don't think he would have done
Speaker 1: it right there at the count. Yeah. Not not in
Speaker 1: the diner. No, no, no, no, no no no. He's
Speaker 1: not like that. He's not all gushy and he needs
Speaker 1: to talk. And you know, it's like when the time
Speaker 1: is right, when he's prodded. You know, he's that guy,
Speaker 1: that's stubborn guy. You gotta really get it out of him,
Speaker 1: got to drag it out of him, and she did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wondered if he never wanted to tell her. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously probably had to tell her. Let's let's wait till
Speaker 1: we get to that. I don't want to because I
Speaker 1: have so much to talk about with that. So we
Speaker 1: also learned the tailor's losing his mind with the ice
Speaker 1: cream Queen. I thought, do you think he really would
Speaker 1: have been that irritated? Hated he? That was the funniest
Speaker 1: storyline all She's going to college. It will be so easy.
Speaker 1: You just have a stage floor length dress. Oh that
Speaker 1: was the ice cream Queen. Oh my god. They they
Speaker 1: milk that so beautifully throughout that episode. It was hysterical.
Speaker 1: That's how great Michael Winters is. And he said, you've
Speaker 1: been trapesing all over year. I do think the significance
Speaker 1: has to do with that. They're reminding us audience that
Speaker 1: she's leaving the town and this is a big deal
Speaker 1: to the town. Yet to be ice cream queen, that
Speaker 1: sounds like a fun job. You get like unlimited ice
Speaker 1: I want that job. What did you think about the
Speaker 1: fact that Roy was really bothered by it? I think
Speaker 1: she's also just stress, you know. I think that had
Speaker 1: to do with it. She's overwhelmed. Then this is all
Speaker 1: before she realizes, right, but he did. But he did
Speaker 1: use her photograph without her authorization, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: a violations Today, Damiel loves desist a big today if
Speaker 1: you're really going to be named the queen. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: go to you ahead of time and go like, do
Speaker 1: you want to be the queen? Like, wouldn't that be
Speaker 1: a surprise? No, you gotta ask somebody. You just slapped
Speaker 1: her face right up there on a poster, big poster,
Speaker 1: and they were stapling it all over town. And if
Speaker 1: she has a commitment, yeah, and if she has to
Speaker 1: have appearances and commitments and stuff like, I just got
Speaker 1: to sign up for that. It's a big that's a
Speaker 1: big responsibility being ice cream queen, Amy. I don't think
Speaker 1: you realize the level of commitment that takes. So here's
Speaker 1: what I love about Gilmore Girl. It's hilarious. Bit let's
Speaker 1: call it like this sort of nonsense about the ice
Speaker 1: cream Queen, and Taylor's all then a dither and Rory's like,
Speaker 1: I don't have time, and then she's like, damn, I
Speaker 1: letting the town down to me. It's so it is
Speaker 1: a major thing because at its core it becomes about
Speaker 1: her relationship with the town and the importance of the town,
Speaker 1: and even the kids when they walk by, they're like
Speaker 1: editor on a shamed spiral some and she was what
Speaker 1: I want to, So I think, like, that's the brilliance,
Speaker 1: is that you have this quirky craziness right like ice
Speaker 1: Cream queen, but it's about so much more. That was
Speaker 1: the way to work into this episode. This is hard
Speaker 1: on the town, and this is hard on her. Mm
Speaker 1: hmm yeah um. But the I mean, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a common theme in all small towns, like somebody goes
Speaker 1: off and makes it big and then forgets about that
Speaker 1: that oh you're too big for us. Now you know
Speaker 1: we used to call it when I played baseball, is
Speaker 1: the minor leaguers would look over the fence at the
Speaker 1: big leaguers, and the big leaguers wouldn't talk to us.
Speaker 1: They diss us, and it's called getting big league, Like,
Speaker 1: don't great analogy, don't big league us man? You know
Speaker 1: you were You were minor leaguers once too, so stop it.
Speaker 1: So every it's like, don't forget where you came from.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a major theme in everybody's lives because
Speaker 1: everybody's been treating everybody's been treated like that by someone comparison. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now we find out that we screwed up the
Speaker 1: calendar to the races, So this is that moment that
Speaker 1: where you're like, we're off right, the clock starts. As
Speaker 1: someone who is so organized, this stressed me out. I
Speaker 1: put everything in a calendar. So if that was me,
Speaker 1: I'd be so stressed. Well, she did put in her calendar,
Speaker 1: but wrong. Yeah, especially like for such a big thing
Speaker 1: going into college. You got the date wrong? Like that
Speaker 1: is so stressful. Yeah, try to find the mattress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so much prep that goes into your first you know,
Speaker 1: first time at college. You gotta get your mattress, bedsheets. Um,
Speaker 1: no one needs a mattress. But but I'm so happy
Speaker 1: they did because I also was very nervous about the germs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you do, don't you? Or know? I definitely
Speaker 1: rolled in with there was a mattress already there that
Speaker 1: I just did for sure. I slept on a weird
Speaker 1: old mattress. Yeah, brief pause. The iconic silhouette shirt, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that was a big that was significant because
Speaker 1: that was just a very cool loreal lines wearing that
Speaker 1: shirt with the little girl and the little boy in
Speaker 1: their silhouettes. And then actually Rory had a very cute
Speaker 1: pink blouse too. Isn't this fashion stuff going to be
Speaker 1: done in a separate segment, so I can go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom and you guys can discuss this. Okay, then
Speaker 1: let's talk about the beauty supply. Here we see Kirk.
Speaker 1: I just love that he works there. Again, he had
Speaker 1: he had good knowledge because I'm now I'm experiencing a
Speaker 1: little bit of a breakout because I am using a
Speaker 1: cream that's a little too heavy for me. Because that's true,
Speaker 1: and his knowledge was like spot on. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: where were you a week ago when I, you know,
Speaker 1: asked for cream from the makeup department. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's getting ready to skydive. Oh my god, twenty dollars
Speaker 1: to jump out a plane. No, thank you? Like ask
Speaker 1: for more, Kirk. Ye, I'm not even gonna let you.
Speaker 1: Totally would have had to do a tandem yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: solo beginner and assault. Yeah, come on, and he's gonna
Speaker 1: land right in stars hollow. God. So we move quickly,
Speaker 1: like things move quickly, and suddenly they decide they're gonna
Speaker 1: divide and conquer at Friday night dinner and Rory you know, Okay, First,
Speaker 1: we do have the scene where war gets on the
Speaker 1: mic though to address the Queen issue, The ice Cream
Speaker 1: Queen is very funny. Just even when she's angry, she's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to sound I don't want
Speaker 1: to sound the way I'm about to sound. But even
Speaker 1: when she's angry, she's cute. You know. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: it's so gentle and it's so funny because she never
Speaker 1: it never tips over into this sort of it never
Speaker 1: tips over into rage or you know, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's just it's really pleasant to watch. She's really easy
Speaker 1: to watch. She's easy to spend time with, you know, totally.
Speaker 1: It really really is. Because she won the town back
Speaker 1: a little bit on slow clap, but she did. She did.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about Friday night dinner because now we're
Speaker 1: into the two most important parts of this episode. What
Speaker 1: did you think you can tell Emily's looking for lower
Speaker 1: Lie and when she answers the door right before she goes,
Speaker 1: they are here, and it's like, oh no, it's not
Speaker 1: a day. I knew we were in hot water right
Speaker 1: then and there. But here's here's what it was so
Speaker 1: great about this Friday night dinner because we haven't seen
Speaker 1: one in a week or two, right, it's been a
Speaker 1: week or two since we've had a Friday night dinner.
Speaker 1: You mean it like on the show, right, we haven't
Speaker 1: the show it's been they haven't had one in months,
Speaker 1: in a couple of right and right, their characters haven't yea.
Speaker 1: So it all started out so great with the gifts
Speaker 1: and come on in and where you know, and then
Speaker 1: you know when Richard comes down and it's all he
Speaker 1: gets a gift and everybody's delightful and it's all great,
Speaker 1: the mood is fantastic. What could go wrong? Well, everything
Speaker 1: goes wrong. And I started accepting it. You know, if
Speaker 1: we go through the entire spine of that. Laurea Lay
Speaker 1: comes in and she's so tired she laughs her about off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's focus on this whole part. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just want to make it. I want to make
Speaker 1: an overall car. Let's do that because we'll get to
Speaker 1: Luke and laure Lyte and but but but the thing
Speaker 1: is is, you know what today I accepted it. I
Speaker 1: finally accepted it. I said, you know what, Emily and
Speaker 1: Laurel I that is their thing. It ain't going away.
Speaker 1: It's always going to be this way. There's always going
Speaker 1: to be something and thank God for it because it's funny,
Speaker 1: and it's up to the writers to sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: thrill and amaze us with you know, new angles on
Speaker 1: how they're going to, uh, you know, tell this story
Speaker 1: because it's they keep telling the same story over and
Speaker 1: over again in different ways, which is really challenging, but
Speaker 1: they do a great job with it. That's right. God,
Speaker 1: that's such a great point that there this is the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over because we know it's coming,
Speaker 1: but we don't know how it's gonna come. And this
Speaker 1: was really surprising and great. Yeah. Why yeah, at the end,
Speaker 1: it's such an amazing pain. Why do you think Emily
Speaker 1: was so bent that there was no Laura Lie because
Speaker 1: in one aspect, she could have been just stoked to
Speaker 1: have the time basically one on one, two on one
Speaker 1: with Rory the night before she was leaving for college.
Speaker 1: What why What do you make of the fact that
Speaker 1: Emily was really I'm not happy about it because it's
Speaker 1: still her daughter. It's still feels like a diss I
Speaker 1: feel like she just wanted it to be back to
Speaker 1: regular Friday night dinners because this is the first one
Speaker 1: since the new agreement. I think we can say, um,
Speaker 1: so there she was like, Oh, everything's back to normal,
Speaker 1: you know, Laura Line. I think it was just but
Speaker 1: I just I thought it was really funny that Rory
Speaker 1: gets like Rory's held hostage because of it, Like do
Speaker 1: you think, well, do you think Emily is doing that
Speaker 1: in hopes that Lord like comes, Like I thought that
Speaker 1: was it. I thought it was that she was there
Speaker 1: for so long that Lauraa has to show up. I
Speaker 1: think Emily knew exactly what she was doing, Like everything
Speaker 1: was very calculated, Like even Richard called it out, Well,
Speaker 1: why didn't you put in the soup fla when we
Speaker 1: sat down for dinner? Those things takes hours, you know,
Speaker 1: Like she knew exactly what she was doing. And I
Speaker 1: do think that there's a lot of Emily that regrets
Speaker 1: her relationship with Lorela in the beginning years of Loyalis Life,
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot that she regrets and is not
Speaker 1: happy about. And I feel like she's been trying to
Speaker 1: fix it, even though she's she's very stubborn, but like
Speaker 1: she's trying to reverse the damage that was done before.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? And she gets to do it sorry,
Speaker 1: but she gets to do over with her granddaughter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but she misplaced love, that delayed love. She gets to
Speaker 1: love her granddaughter. But I think she also the reason
Speaker 1: why she cares so much about Lorla is she is
Speaker 1: not happy with how that relationship turned out. So she's
Speaker 1: still she's still somewhat hopeful that maybe it will kind
Speaker 1: of you know, right, right, I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think there's a kernel of hope
Speaker 1: that Laura comes around, and and that those two keep
Speaker 1: disappointing each other for one reason or another, and and
Speaker 1: everything gets lost in translation. But one point I want
Speaker 1: to make I I don't I kind of disagree with
Speaker 1: you Tara and you Danielle. I don't know that Emily
Speaker 1: is so cynical and excuse my naive tech, that she
Speaker 1: just wasn't purely delighted that she could spend some real
Speaker 1: time with her granddaughter alone without an ulterior motive of
Speaker 1: drawing Laura, because that would make her and that would
Speaker 1: make her a person who uses her granddaughter to get
Speaker 1: back at her her daughter. And I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want the mother the granddaughter grandmother relationship to
Speaker 1: be tainted in that way. Right. I agree with you
Speaker 1: up until when Laura came over and she was like, Mom,
Speaker 1: this is my last night with my daughter before she
Speaker 1: goes to college and she goes. I know, so why
Speaker 1: aren't you here like that? I like with your sense.
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, maybe she just wanted the LA and dinner.
Speaker 1: But when we got to the ballroom dancing, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is not They've never done that, They've never video. Danielle,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this why And this might be
Speaker 1: a silly question, and if it is, to just tell
Speaker 1: me this is a silly question. But why would Emily
Speaker 1: expect not to be included in her final night in town?
Speaker 1: Why would Emily give that up when she has put
Speaker 1: in so much to developing and helping Rory along this path. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think she do, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's like, why do why do? Why do we as
Speaker 1: an audience expect Emily to take a back seat at
Speaker 1: this I did as an audience, though, You're right, I did.
Speaker 1: She deserves the Friday night, I mean, just does, Like, Mom,
Speaker 1: don't you understand you know, we're we're a separate nation,
Speaker 1: We're not friendly. I wanted to spend time with my doubt.
Speaker 1: Why couldn't Laurel, I share Rory with Emily on the
Speaker 1: final night. Tell me why if Jess was still in
Speaker 1: the picture, would Laurel not have expected that Rory would
Speaker 1: spend her last night with him? Interesting? Interesting point. But
Speaker 1: I but that's a hypothetical, and that's really hard to answer.
Speaker 1: Right now. You're just, you know, you're just you're trying
Speaker 1: to confuse this. I get I get where you're going.
Speaker 1: I think, why, why does Emily have to get less?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think she has to get less.
Speaker 1: She she deserved her Friday night dinner. But a typical
Speaker 1: Friday night dinner is you have your dinner and then
Speaker 1: Rory goes back home, you know, like it's not the
Speaker 1: ballroom dancing ten hours of videotapes. But I think Emily,
Speaker 1: like said, there's a switch. She's like, Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to drag this out as long as possible. Roy goes
Speaker 1: goes to school tomorrow. But maybe if I keep extending,
Speaker 1: extending it, Lorila is going to have no choice but
Speaker 1: to come. Grandparents do get less. That is the role
Speaker 1: of the grandparents. Like you guys, let's let's I have grandparents.
Speaker 1: I did, and like my grandparents would have gotten Wednesday
Speaker 1: before I went to college. Do you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: They would have definitely gotten it. But also, let's not
Speaker 1: forget she's coming back next Friday, Like, it's not like
Speaker 1: you're back, she's not going abroad. The drama of her
Speaker 1: leaving and all that. Okay, brief pause before we dig
Speaker 1: into this more did Gilmore Girls? You guys, this is
Speaker 1: like major, major important point. I almost want to like,
Speaker 1: we'll be back after the break because this is so major. Well,
Speaker 1: why don't you just say that we'll be back after
Speaker 1: this break. We'll be back with the most major Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls thing that I have never noticed in all the
Speaker 1: years until this moment. Oh, I can't wait. This is
Speaker 1: exciting to be good. I'm about to burst. I believe
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly now that Gilmore Girls invented Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I wrote that down too literally shoote Okay,
Speaker 1: because Mark Ballace's parents are in that is Mark Ballace's dad.
Speaker 1: That even gets named Quirky Ballast who also did dance
Speaker 1: on Dancing with the Stars. Okay, there's a lot to
Speaker 1: the Yeah, somebody look up when Dancing with the Stars came.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, some person was watching this going
Speaker 1: there might be something to this. So Emily Kelly Bishop
Speaker 1: in real life is a dancing so she did know
Speaker 1: all the things she's talking about. Five l. Quirky Ballace
Speaker 1: was fully talked about on this episode with video and
Speaker 1: Emily talking about ballroom dancing and the whole thing. Okay, then,
Speaker 1: so Quirky is Mark Ballace's dad who Mark is one
Speaker 1: of the big dancers on Dance of the Star. Quirky
Speaker 1: danced on Dancing with the Stars. That is there. Everything
Speaker 1: she said was real. Mom, Shirley's his mom. It was
Speaker 1: all not those were real references. The one that I
Speaker 1: don't think was real though. I don't think Mark's actual
Speaker 1: name is Quirky Jr. Or whatever she's called him. I
Speaker 1: don't know google it. But maybe Mark has a brother.
Speaker 1: Maybe Mark has a brother. Then okay, we'll think about this,
Speaker 1: the three of them, Oh, Jackie our producer, Quirky Ballace's
Speaker 1: real name is Mark Boom. Okay, So then think of
Speaker 1: the significance in two ways. One we'll talk about the
Speaker 1: significance in Gilmore World. How many times canna say quirky?
Speaker 1: How many times can I say significance? The three of
Speaker 1: them are loving watching this, so they're spending all this
Speaker 1: time they don't leave, which we'll talk we'll talk about
Speaker 1: all that literally, but somebody in the television worlds like
Speaker 1: these three important people love watching ballroom dancing lightbulb. Can
Speaker 1: I get Mark and ask? This is so literally, it's
Speaker 1: so good because what was Mark on season one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like an o G he I know he's an
Speaker 1: OG and he's and by the way, the timing of this,
Speaker 1: this is his first season back this year in like
Speaker 1: in like six or seven seasons, so the timing of
Speaker 1: us watching this when like Dancing with the Stars and
Speaker 1: he just started like I n oh, he started season five? Okay,
Speaker 1: he's technically an og like, oh, he's awake? Wait, hold on,
Speaker 1: can he's awake? Ok Wait, I'm gonna call you. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call him, just him click the zoom link. He
Speaker 1: doesn't even be on video that way, he's in a
Speaker 1: zoom Oh no. It was based on a BBC one
Speaker 1: show Strictly Come Dancing, and that premier in two thousand
Speaker 1: and four. When is he gonna be out? I'm asking it.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jackie for that information. Jackie Rodriguez. Everybody she yeah, Mark,
Speaker 1: he's our friends that like this was kind of fun
Speaker 1: and be like, oh my god, what is he coming
Speaker 1: on the zoom? He's in a zoom. I'm saying, you
Speaker 1: get mentioned he's in a zoom already. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: We're literally doing this on the fly. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: tell us when he's ready, and then maybe he could
Speaker 1: be on Towards the table of this episode. He wants
Speaker 1: to know the question, and I'm gonna say, we want
Speaker 1: to jump. Maybe he could do a new podcast where
Speaker 1: he's never seen an episode of Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: and he could recap every single one of you. Imagine
Speaker 1: rewatching I cannot there's like thirty five seasons, so many seasons.
Speaker 1: Danielle quickly, I'm like, Pisa, guys, I can't do that one,
Speaker 1: or Survivor rewatch Survivor. I'm seeing the amazing race. He's all,
Speaker 1: what's the question? And I'm like, if I ask you
Speaker 1: on the text, everyone's as exciting. Yeah, but okay, so
Speaker 1: hopefully it'll hit me back. Okay, so we'll get him on,
Speaker 1: We'll get him on pop culture, We'll get him on otherwise.
Speaker 1: Can I like the pop culture idea? That's fine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the fact now forget to answer with
Speaker 1: the stars. They they stayed. No, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: they didn't stay. Yeah, they did. I thought to say,
Speaker 1: were back at home watching, So Emily went to bed.
Speaker 1: Emily's in the scene she missed. We missed a scene.
Speaker 1: She's not there yet because Luke and Lorela have their
Speaker 1: convers But right, but I'm talking about we talked earlier
Speaker 1: in this podcast. I said, we're gonna go through all
Speaker 1: of this part because it's so major, Scott, you might
Speaker 1: have looked away. The whole payoff is that Lora, Lye
Speaker 1: and Rory are loving watching damp fake dancing with the stuff.
Speaker 1: But I thought they talked, took the video home. What
Speaker 1: I thought Emily. The camera pans out and Emily's next
Speaker 1: to them asleep. No, I mean you could have, like
Speaker 1: anyone could have missed that, because I almost did. I
Speaker 1: thought they were home, and the whole bit was they
Speaker 1: love the show so much, they're watching home. Will still
Speaker 1: worked right, And that was I think what we were
Speaker 1: sort of expected to think because it's on just the
Speaker 1: two of them. Then it pans out and you see
Speaker 1: you see Emily asleep. They stayed, So this is why
Speaker 1: you have to watch these episodes twice. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like times or four times. You know, there's always a
Speaker 1: little stuff. If you would have looked down at your
Speaker 1: paper to write your notes, yes, that's what I do.
Speaker 1: Is like the very it was like the last like
Speaker 1: three seconds of the of the show. I had all
Speaker 1: these Mark Ballas quirky corking my head. I got distracted
Speaker 1: and it's so major, Like it's so major, and I
Speaker 1: think they were eating biscotti. Yeah, they were at the end,
Speaker 1: And this begged me to question, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: bring you guys who snacks on the Scottie's just like
Speaker 1: breakfast with your coffee type thing. Yeah, but we're talking,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the Gilmore girls. Well, and they just
Speaker 1: got back from Europe with they're all thrown off. You know.
Speaker 1: It was very, very very major that they stayed. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Emily literally Emily was able to go to sleep
Speaker 1: so soundly because everything she wanted everyone was there in
Speaker 1: her house with her. And she even acknowledges like Richard
Speaker 1: goes to bed like almost like I'm alone, Richard goes
Speaker 1: to bed, I'm just here and they stay. She wanted
Speaker 1: to look at the lengths she has to go to
Speaker 1: if she's that cynical to intentionally use um Rory is
Speaker 1: a honey trap for her daughter. Right right now, her
Speaker 1: girls are there. She can rest easy because she's got
Speaker 1: her girls there. She probably missed them, I think. I
Speaker 1: think underneath it all, she loves them both dearly, and
Speaker 1: she misses them, and she wants peace and she wants
Speaker 1: and they've been gone in Europe for months. She's probably
Speaker 1: missed them so much. And imagine, as a grandma, you
Speaker 1: have your daughter and your granddaughter there watching ballroom like that,
Speaker 1: you that's why she fell asleep, something that she loves. Right,
Speaker 1: she was easy. I thought that was actually quite beautiful,
Speaker 1: like and I missed it first of all. That is
Speaker 1: the funny thing. It's really easy to miss because I,
Speaker 1: like you, Scott, thought they were at home also, and
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, but I'm like, that's what their couch.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's like a weird couch. And then
Speaker 1: I kept watching watching and I'm like, and I had
Speaker 1: forgotten this because I think people miss it when they're
Speaker 1: watching this episode. Yeah, it does make sense because I
Speaker 1: thought the TV and it looked a little nicer than
Speaker 1: the whole time I was literally like, oh my god. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now we're going to reverse a tiny bit. The
Speaker 1: mattress is getting loaded in the truck. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: you a B minus on that sound effect, but pretty good.
Speaker 1: So because we're because we did go out of order.
Speaker 1: So we're going back now to such a pivotal moment,
Speaker 1: big moment. I don't even know where to start. Let's
Speaker 1: start with you, Scott. Tell me everything you felt about
Speaker 1: that scene. I love the way he dragged it out.
Speaker 1: But there's more. But there's more. That's like a salesman
Speaker 1: and there's more. Wait, there's more. Uh yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just think, you know, I think that scene made it
Speaker 1: so obvious that these two really belong together, or at
Speaker 1: least they should give it a shot. You know, it's
Speaker 1: like give it a shot. Yes, I mean it was
Speaker 1: you know everybody. She was so relieved and he was
Speaker 1: relieved that she was relieved, and they were both kind
Speaker 1: of sitting there happy, even though he was trying to
Speaker 1: kind of fake that it didn't Oh it didn't work
Speaker 1: out and what a pickle. But he didn't care, you know,
Speaker 1: he was with her. The faces, the acting of the
Speaker 1: bodies and the faces and this and how about when
Speaker 1: he says, so, first, did you propose? And he says yes,
Speaker 1: and her face and I'm just like, and I felt
Speaker 1: that Luke looked so sad. Not obviously Luke knows he's
Speaker 1: already getting divorced. He looks so sad because he has
Speaker 1: made her so sad. Then there's more we got married,
Speaker 1: and then you see lord, I say, how could you
Speaker 1: could you? M lengthy pause, there's get married because she
Speaker 1: says how could you? Like, how could you do? At
Speaker 1: first she's saying how could you do this to me?
Speaker 1: And then she realizes like she can't say that, so
Speaker 1: she says, how could you get married? And I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. That was the best dialogue between those
Speaker 1: two so far. Yes, it was the most fraught with
Speaker 1: tension and consequences and so revealing of how they both
Speaker 1: felt about one another. There, yes, in a very unexpected way,
Speaker 1: and the relief we're getting divorced, like literally in a
Speaker 1: one minute period, full panicked, tried to check herself, she's
Speaker 1: devastated and gets complete relief. Yeah, she made it look easy.
Speaker 1: Laura Graham's not too bad? Is she? I was totally wrong?
Speaker 1: She's not too bad. She isn't enius the acting in
Speaker 1: that scene. Look, you're not too bad either that scene.
Speaker 1: So that is probably one of the best scenes. And wait,
Speaker 1: so Danielle, when when Luke first says when when Laura
Speaker 1: Lee says, did you propose? And he says, yes, what
Speaker 1: did your what did you happen? Okay? Why I was
Speaker 1: a little shocked too, because I didn't know what was
Speaker 1: going to happen. I'm shocked something. Wasn't it an Alaskan
Speaker 1: cruise in the end of the season and now it's
Speaker 1: the Caribbean because they went snorkeling seven countries? He says
Speaker 1: seven country cruise. But I want to say in the
Speaker 1: end of last season he's Alaska did But how you
Speaker 1: got a seven country cruise? It since like a lot
Speaker 1: And you know what they do. They come from Connecticut
Speaker 1: and they dock right outside my window here. But if
Speaker 1: you're the first stop, and then they Canada and Alaska.
Speaker 1: Alaska's clear on the it's on the west coast of
Speaker 1: the United States. Oh right, you're going around that way,
Speaker 1: so that's a huge crew. But then yeah, they say
Speaker 1: they snorkel in the in Alaska to call me, and
Speaker 1: I guess you can in Alaska exactly, there's some flag
Speaker 1: on the play there. Daniel then is seven countries, so
Speaker 1: seven because what did your they do? When he then
Speaker 1: says we got married, like what were you experiencing in
Speaker 1: real time through this scene? It all happened so fast,
Speaker 1: so like you don't really have a chance to process,
Speaker 1: Like he was, like, I proposed, then we got married,
Speaker 1: then we got divorced, and I was just like, like
Speaker 1: literally like watching the screen, like what is happening? And
Speaker 1: how did this happen so fast? I'm so confused. But
Speaker 1: I was happy that they got divorced. But everyone happy.
Speaker 1: I'm happy about that, right, I am, yes, sure, I
Speaker 1: mean it was a great relief. But how interesting would
Speaker 1: it have been? Okay, just think of the possibilities if
Speaker 1: you said, and we're married, and that was that. I
Speaker 1: mean right, I know that would have been I'm sure
Speaker 1: they thought about it. More episodes for Trish, more for
Speaker 1: her Lauren to play off of, and right, I mean right,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the writers must have thought about it because obviously, look,
Speaker 1: everyone knows the trajectories. He's so I wanted what made
Speaker 1: them take the decision because they want that relationship to
Speaker 1: be pure. They wanted to be as pure as possible
Speaker 1: and that nothing, nothing can last in the face of
Speaker 1: that heat. That's a point really good. So I thought
Speaker 1: both of those scenes made this episode a ten out
Speaker 1: of ten ice Cream Queens because the scene with Emily
Speaker 1: just all that, everything from the Friday night dinner to
Speaker 1: the payoff with Emily at the end, and this scene
Speaker 1: with Luke and Lordly ten out of ten ice Cream Queens.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought they were both so amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: even though yes, Tara, you make a salient point with
Speaker 1: she's coming back in a week anyway, but still it's
Speaker 1: it's the prodigal daughter leaving and she will return, but
Speaker 1: she's going away. Life is going to be different for
Speaker 1: for lor from pure on out. You know, she doesn't
Speaker 1: have a job yet. She's gonna build up the new
Speaker 1: end and the whole thing, and I hope that, hopefully
Speaker 1: that works out for but she's gonna be left without
Speaker 1: her best, bestest friend in the world that she will
Speaker 1: ever have her own. Flush and Blood is going to
Speaker 1: college and it's a big deal. And I got so
Speaker 1: moved at the end by the thought of it. Because
Speaker 1: Amy wrote a sort of a Dan type episode where
Speaker 1: it was light and funny light and funny light and
Speaker 1: funny light, and that heavy, heavy moment at the end,
Speaker 1: you know, like big heavy moment to the point where
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, it was eleven o'clock here
Speaker 1: in the am and it's seven am, uh California time,
Speaker 1: and I knew, I knew my little guy was still
Speaker 1: kind of snoozing a little bit. So I called my FaceTime,
Speaker 1: my wife, and she answered he was all snuggly with her,
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, because I'm missing those moments because
Speaker 1: I'm here, you know what I mean. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to see I said, just let's let me see
Speaker 1: him sleeping. Let me see him sleeping. He woke he
Speaker 1: woke up, he woke up, and we talked to them.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, buddy, have a good day at school.
Speaker 1: And I just projected myself into the future when we're
Speaker 1: gonna say goodbody going to call. Yeah, the show, this
Speaker 1: TV show brings up emotions in you. And then it
Speaker 1: transferred to, Oh, I gotta call my my my baby.
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, I gotta miss my baby, gotta call him,
Speaker 1: I gotta see him, I gotta talk to him. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell him I love him. That's really that does
Speaker 1: I like that you brought that up, because that's sort
Speaker 1: of the magical thing about this show, Like it does
Speaker 1: make you go, oh, my own parents, or my own grandparents,
Speaker 1: or my boyfriend whatever it does, those emotions do sort
Speaker 1: of carry through, and for the most part, I think
Speaker 1: they're very lovely. What the emotions that brings up. It's
Speaker 1: never painful things like when you watch some shows. This
Speaker 1: show really is like Seinfeld does the same thing. It
Speaker 1: gets you to recognize all the crazy stuff that happens
Speaker 1: in your life that just just like that that you're
Speaker 1: sitting on the screen, all that funny crazy stuff, right,
Speaker 1: so relatable. I mean, do people watch uh an episode
Speaker 1: of Chicago Fire or something and then like start calling
Speaker 1: their friends all moved and saying, hey, but respect that
Speaker 1: you brought up Chicago Fire more of a Chicago medgal.
Speaker 1: But did you did you put out your cigarette? You know?
Speaker 1: How you doing? You know? I mean, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to trash anybody's shows, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: this show is so relatable. Yeah, I think you make
Speaker 1: a perfect point, because I think there's other shows where
Speaker 1: you're watching like like hardcore dramas and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: This reminds me of my terrible ex boyfriend that night, right,
Speaker 1: This one is not they traumatize you to the point
Speaker 1: where you just need to like you need to lie down.
Speaker 1: This one really does bring up loveliness like love each other,
Speaker 1: love your parents, love you. This is the healing, the
Speaker 1: healing aspect of this show, the healing influence that every
Speaker 1: fan tells me about at these conventions, And when I
Speaker 1: meet them on the street, they just sell your show,
Speaker 1: you know, because they all do the same thing I did.
Speaker 1: They picked up a phone and they faced time their kid.
Speaker 1: It reconnects people, It keeps people connected on a deeper level.
Speaker 1: Wonderful influence on the culture. Hey, you want to do? Uh,
Speaker 1: my crack team came up with something, alright, and we
Speaker 1: gotta get to home. Here we go six oh three
Speaker 1: plus six minutes and three si yes, exactly all right.
Speaker 1: At eleven minutes and thirty eight seconds in the scene
Speaker 1: where Jackson is saying he doesn't want to know the
Speaker 1: sex of the baby, at the point where he says
Speaker 1: Ricky Ricardo didn't know, you can see Rory's left side
Speaker 1: and the shot and she's already wearing the button that
Speaker 1: Jackson hasn't given her get At twelve minutes and eight seconds,
Speaker 1: watch the right side of the screen as Suki throws
Speaker 1: open the doors of the baby ship. You can see
Speaker 1: a cast member's hand reach into the frame and grab
Speaker 1: the door to hold it open. Think dank thing alright.
Speaker 1: At around h sixteen to seventeen minutes in, when Laurel
Speaker 1: I is telling her fake jam story, the dirty plate
Speaker 1: next to her disappears and reappears a few times. H
Speaker 1: come on Rory's button. At eighteen minutes and seventeen seconds,
Speaker 1: it says I do not want to know the sex
Speaker 1: of my baby, But at twenty minutes and fifty three
Speaker 1: seconds it has magically changed to I don't want to
Speaker 1: know the sex of my baby. So it went from
Speaker 1: do not too, don't um and go ahead, gang yeah
Speaker 1: script Ready for favorite one. The grand opening of Taylor
Speaker 1: Soda Shop was supposed to I would have much more
Speaker 1: smooth segue than that. Come on. The grand opening of
Speaker 1: Taylor Soda Shop was supposed to have been in the
Speaker 1: episode where Fran died Remember the Marching Band the funeral.
Speaker 1: That episode was set several months before this one. That's
Speaker 1: a long time to delay the grand Uh huh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a great, great catch. Do you think they were
Speaker 1: just waiting for Rory to come back from their trip
Speaker 1: so she can be the ebything queen. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good point. Okay. So minutes forty eight seconds, Rory brings
Speaker 1: Emily a present in a gift bag, but she doesn't
Speaker 1: even let Emily open it. She takes the gift out
Speaker 1: herself and just hands it to Emily. Yeah. I remember that,
Speaker 1: but but that's for speed sake, because you don't want
Speaker 1: to take that time when you're shooting, because that's precious
Speaker 1: screen time. It's just like, just get to the gift, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, technically she opened the box. She did, she did.
Speaker 1: I didn't notice. When Luke is helping Laureli load the truck,
Speaker 1: he mentions that he has luggage because he just went
Speaker 1: on a seven country clues what we're talking about, guys,
Speaker 1: here we go. But in a previous episode he told
Speaker 1: Laureli they were driving through Western Canada and then taking
Speaker 1: a cruise to Alaska. Right, so then the snorkeling doesn't
Speaker 1: match well, I mean it does match up. If they're
Speaker 1: going to seven countries, they could have stopped in like
Speaker 1: you know, Caribbean. But I don't think you snorkel in Alaska. Um,
Speaker 1: what can I say? You know, it's uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: a little confused anyway, all right, let's do favorite line. Um,
Speaker 1: there's a million. I have one. Give it Tara, it's
Speaker 1: um what so Taylor says, I don't understand why you're
Speaker 1: as a diner and minds a stupid store, And Luke says,
Speaker 1: look at this place, look at you. All you need
Speaker 1: is six dancing penguins and Mary Poppins floating in the
Speaker 1: corner to bring back two of the worst hours of
Speaker 1: my childhood. That's a good one. So mine is simple,
Speaker 1: and I know there's millions of good lines. I still
Speaker 1: think there's more because it was two words that were
Speaker 1: so important. Yeah, there's more, like so I'm going with that.
Speaker 1: Um Daniel favorite, Yeah, I did. Mine was a little unexpected.
Speaker 1: But it's when Rory gives Richard her gift and Emily
Speaker 1: goes Richard says, I love this and Emily goes, yes,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna love it. Outside on the patio, my
Speaker 1: favorite lines, two little boys walked by. Rory said, thanks
Speaker 1: a lot, Yale, can have you? I totally agree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was good. That was good. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of good stuff in here. There's also one more I
Speaker 1: have to say. That was a chard. We had somebody
Speaker 1: joining this home soon. Yes, what was that? What was that?
Speaker 1: There's a surprise coming in Scott. You just let Tauras
Speaker 1: say her thing and then we've got a little surprised.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say one last little tid but
Speaker 1: that I loved is when Emily says to Richard, Lorela
Speaker 1: has chores to do, and Richard says chores and she's like,
Speaker 1: errand's you know, like chores because it's just like cleaning
Speaker 1: my house. I still don't understand why they didn't just
Speaker 1: say she was calling out the obvious bs Lorela, excuse right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring Emily. Oh, because he has two minutes,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna bring him. We have a guest. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, what's happening here? Huh? All right, I'm I'm waiting.
Speaker 1: I'm non tenderhooks here. What's going on? Everybody's waiting? Mark Dallas, Mark,
Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast, my friends. On what is going on?
Speaker 1: I think you know, we have many questions. Amy, you
Speaker 1: have questions, so you have a series I don't know
Speaker 1: anyone's ever told you this. So we're Gilmore Girls thing, right, Yes,
Speaker 1: so Mark, I believe two things. Okay, Gilmore Girls invented
Speaker 1: maybe in America, but Gilmore Girls invented Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: This was what years and yeah, we're all here, the
Speaker 1: whole famis here. So this this episod It was two
Speaker 1: thousand three and Dancing with the Stars premiered in two
Speaker 1: thousand five. That's right, yeah, so right after Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I don't that could that's a very good theory. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if it's totally accurate. It
Speaker 1: came from the show came from England originally, you know,
Speaker 1: strictly started it, but conceptually maybe it was a notion
Speaker 1: of more girls. You know. But Mark, what about the
Speaker 1: fact that your dad is fully not only your mom
Speaker 1: and dad, but especially your dad gets a full shout
Speaker 1: out in Gilmore Girls with video to remind, aren't they
Speaker 1: they're watching a competition, right, yeah? Yes, yeah, they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's Quirky and Shirley. Yeah, and then they say Quirky
Speaker 1: Ballace Jr. Was that your nickname or no? Yeah? For
Speaker 1: Emily who's played by Kelly Bishop, who's also a dancer
Speaker 1: in real life, says and he has a son, Quirky Jr.
Speaker 1: And I was literally so Scott, so you have the background.
Speaker 1: Mark and I have been friends for like almost almost
Speaker 1: twenty years, like a long time. So obviously when I
Speaker 1: watched this back in the day, I didn't know the
Speaker 1: Ballast family him watching this last night and I was like,
Speaker 1: what is was like, I know Quirky Ballast Jr. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's just like work. Like every every you know,
Speaker 1: six months or so, I'll get a text from like
Speaker 1: a random friendly like did you know you're on Gilmore?
Speaker 1: Girl is six months are up? And here we are everybody,
Speaker 1: because we talked in real time just moments ago. I
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, I have to text Mark right now,
Speaker 1: like you don't awake and it's I was like barely.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's happening. You're more girls. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh okay, And it's even crazier because now you're coming
Speaker 1: back to Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, so it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's very funny. This all came up
Speaker 1: very last minute. Um, you know, Conrad Green is back,
Speaker 1: who's the original producer no, it's just one of the
Speaker 1: best I think. And he called me randomly one day
Speaker 1: while I was sweeping my steps and literally outside sweeping.
Speaker 1: Went from like, you know, doing some how stuff BC
Speaker 1: and I are working on a new record right now,
Speaker 1: like I had the next six months plan. He was like, hello, mate, Conrad.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm coming back. Have you got one more
Speaker 1: in you? I was like, I need more details, but
Speaker 1: you have such an awesome partner. Like I'm totally waving
Speaker 1: for you, guys, who's your partner? Who's your partner? I'm
Speaker 1: with Charlie Damilio this time? God, but Scott. So what's
Speaker 1: so funny about Mark? And I'll include Derek in this
Speaker 1: too because they're my boys, Okay, and I mean this
Speaker 1: in the best way possible. Suddenly Mark and Derek became
Speaker 1: who I cared about more than their famous celebrity partner.
Speaker 1: I'm like totally, So that was such an amazing thing.
Speaker 1: But the other thing that's so crazy is in two
Speaker 1: thousand three when this episode airs, Yes, your your mom
Speaker 1: and dad were famous in the dancing world, but they
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily famous like they became or you. It's like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like at the time, you know,
Speaker 1: in the eighties and nineties, and you know, maybe before
Speaker 1: that would be like the forties fifties, like ballroom dancing
Speaker 1: was such a it was a thing, you know, and
Speaker 1: then it kind of like like it became like if
Speaker 1: you know, you know, type of situation. It wasn't very
Speaker 1: you know, out there all the time. Um, so yeah,
Speaker 1: like kind of vanished, and then the show kind of
Speaker 1: brought that interest back, you know, And I think it's just, um,
Speaker 1: it's great to see, especially with where we are now
Speaker 1: with social media and dancing and music and everything is
Speaker 1: so fast and like to see kind of dance and
Speaker 1: all that side of the arts kind of get a
Speaker 1: second or a third or fourth life, if you will.
Speaker 1: People are interesting in again, and you know, it's great
Speaker 1: activity to learn how to move with your partner and
Speaker 1: have a little night of something new and different. So
Speaker 1: I think people find that it's fascinating to see two
Speaker 1: people come together and you know, dance of who never
Speaker 1: have so you know, it's fun. It's an oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: dancing stars amazing. But the fact that Gilmore girls knew
Speaker 1: in two thousand three, not only did they, I mean
Speaker 1: they could have just acknowledged, Oh, let's watch the room dancing,
Speaker 1: but that they call out your dad, who I mentioned
Speaker 1: earlier did do Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, the fact
Speaker 1: that these writers knew like this is the guy that
Speaker 1: we're gonna mention, Well, you know, I wish I wish
Speaker 1: we had had this call you six, my mom was
Speaker 1: in town because you know, she's like back in the day,
Speaker 1: like you know, eighties and nineties they were you know,
Speaker 1: they were it. They were the world champion training Like
Speaker 1: like my mom is still considered, you know that one
Speaker 1: of the top coaches for this sport in the world.
Speaker 1: Like she's elite of the elite. And now she judges.
Speaker 1: She's lend now in England. She British version, which is
Speaker 1: the original, you know, so it started in England, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know when do we start to two thousand five,
Speaker 1: so maybe a few years before that. And now so
Speaker 1: she's head judge in the UK and they called her
Speaker 1: the Queen of Latin. That's amazing, hilarious. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: for jumping on. So so thanks for having me. Wait, Mark,
Speaker 1: tell us what's going on with at Alexander Geene before
Speaker 1: you jump out. So we you know, we've been um,
Speaker 1: I think at the end of was it last year,
Speaker 1: we we kind of decided to take like a bit
Speaker 1: of a social media break and kind of be human,
Speaker 1: and we built this new space we can record at home.
Speaker 1: We spent the last couple of years learning all the
Speaker 1: engineering side of things, so now we just can do
Speaker 1: everything ourselves, which is great. So we we had the
Speaker 1: next few months all lined up. We've got a single
Speaker 1: dropping September twenty three, just called the Way You Move.
Speaker 1: It's fast, it's fun, it's a sexy song, kind of
Speaker 1: you know, got good vibes. So we're gonna try and
Speaker 1: drop one every six weeks. I was like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna organize our this is the only we're reorganizing
Speaker 1: our house all up, Like sure, why not? So yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be dropping new music every four to six
Speaker 1: weeks and you know, hopefully leading up to an album
Speaker 1: and get out and play some more shows at some point.
Speaker 1: We love nice and when this this this tonight is
Speaker 1: the night so Dancing with the Stars premieres. Am I
Speaker 1: getting that right? Yeah? No Monday, Monday? Right? But when
Speaker 1: this air is this air is on Monday? Oh there
Speaker 1: you go, So tonight night is the Night. Tonight is
Speaker 1: the Night and it's on Disney Plus, so get your
Speaker 1: Disney Plus get this. Good luck, thank you, It's going
Speaker 1: to be cool. It's like we're making history. I guess
Speaker 1: moving to streaming. So that's knows about that. Gilmore Girls
Speaker 1: did did the same thing. Yeah, it'll go violent, it'll
Speaker 1: go even more viral. Well, good luck and and listen.
Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, thanks for coming on. Great meeting
Speaker 1: you and you two, Scott, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you. Yeah, we'll be streaming Monday night for sure.
Speaker 1: I have it. I think I think I'll have a
Speaker 1: day off. It would be nice. Good luck with them,
Speaker 1: good luck, thanks for coming on. Really appreciate talking to
Speaker 1: all season long. Bye bye. Oh we gotta end on that.
Speaker 1: What a do? That was cool? Huh? All right? Everybody?
Speaker 1: What that was? We should do that more often that
Speaker 1: people listen to the end because isn't that fun? Isn't
Speaker 1: that fun? Well? Next week full circle moment because the
Speaker 1: Looralize go to Yale? Is that the exact title? What's
Speaker 1: the exact title? The luralize first day at Yale? Yeah? Anyway,
Speaker 1: thank you to Mark Ballace for coming on. Do a
Speaker 1: little cameo for us. That was fun. Uh and that's
Speaker 1: gonna do it for this episode. Thank you, ladies, and everybody,
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