1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: All right, here we go back in the fold and 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: ready to go. We are live. It is the Herd. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. I got 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: a little sun, the hair's lit a long. I look 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: a little shaggy today. That's okay, that's just you know, 16 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: you're out there. You're off there golfing and having fun 17 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: and playing with the dogs and the surf. That's life. 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I feel refreshed and ready to go. And Jmac, it's 19 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: I tune out when I'm on vacation. You do the 20 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: same thing. We were talking. We're both going to tune out, unplug, 21 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: hang out with family. But you are seeing now a 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: lot more videos come up with camp and the story 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: at this time of the year. Every August is young quarterbacks. 24 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about young quarterbacks and the 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: videos that are out there. So we're going to start 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: with that jmack one hour from now. Colin right, Colin wrong. Listen. 27 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: All these videos matter. All of them matter, good, bad, 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: and the ugly. Caleb Williams had the most notable. He's 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: thrown at a net. He goes oh for three and 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: the last throw is so bad he misses the net 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: completely and then he gets kicked off. How do I 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: know this matters because they deleted it after a while 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: because it was getting so much play. There's also a 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: story out there where JJ McCarthy's throwing red zone picks. 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: End quote, he's working on his touch because everything's a fastball, 36 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: which you'd hope guys get figured out, you know, at college. 37 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: So when a quarterback is unproven, like Caleb Williams or 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: like JJ McCarthy, camp matters more not just for the player, 39 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: for the staff. When you haven't shown your competency, when 40 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: you haven't shown your aptitude, a player's confidence. I mean, 41 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: you could see on that net video that was in 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: Caleb's head and the coaching staff. There's a story that 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is struggling in the red zone with picks. Well, 44 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is watching that and thinking to himself, Okay, 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: this is practice. Can I call stuff during games on 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: the road. He can't hear. I mean the advantage to 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: having a Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes 48 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: or a Joe Burrow. You can use the whole playbook 49 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: all over the field. All over the field. You start 50 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: throwing red zone picks in practice, you're closing parts of 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: the playbook. And for an offensive coach like a Kevin 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: O'Connell or a Ben Johnson, if they don't want to 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: close any of playbook. I saw a story this weekend 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: where Joe Burrow actually saw the video of this. So 55 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: they got Noafan a tight end from Denver. They got 56 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: no Afan and Burrow first second practice with him up 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: and down the field in practice, of course it's Joe Burrow. 58 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: So that just tells Zach Taylor a couple of practices 59 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: with Noahfen we'll throw it to him at any point anywhere, 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: trailing leading red zone. It doesn't matter. All this stuff matters. 61 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: What's a little nugget in one camp? Can be a 62 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: code read in another. And by the way, you can 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: tell when a coach isn't totally happy because they get 64 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: they get a little defensive. Like Kevin O'Connell at one 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: point in a press conference looked to the ceiling and went, 66 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: the sky is not falling. He had the quip ready. Meanwhile, 67 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: last year in camp, the effusive praise for Jaden Daniels. 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: We said on the air, We're like, I've never heard 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: anything like this. It mattered what dan Quinn was seeing 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: last year in camp. He couldn't get his eyes off it. 71 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: They couldn't believe it. So all this stuff matters. Look 72 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: at it this way. If you're an established quarterback, let's 73 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: say you're Gordon Ramsey and you build restaurants, it doesn't 74 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: matter what the reviewer says. You've got twenty years of 75 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: success and aptitude and competency. Gordon Ramsey's new restaurant is 76 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: not dependent on a review from the local newspaper. Okay, 77 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: you're a new chef, you have new investors, they're not 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: quite sure. They don't love the feng shway of the restaurant. 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: The food better be really damn good, and you better 80 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: get a good write up in the Chicago Tripper of 81 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: the La Times. That can ruin a young restaurant or 82 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: a young chef. That stuff matters, and that's how I 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: look at quarterbacks. So Caleb Williams, he struggled in college. 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: We're starting to get a drip drip drip with Caleb Williams. 85 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: So he struggled in college, and I said this, I 86 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: loved him. A little bit of hero ball could be 87 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: a little moody accuracy two gms told me, little worried 88 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: about it. They'll clean it up. Then he goes last year, Oh, 89 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: little hero ball, a lot of accuracy issues. Now we 90 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: go to OTA's in camp drip drip rep. More accuracy issues. 91 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: Now we've got video. So all of this stuff matters, 92 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: and it matters more for young, unproven chefs, artists, quarterbacks. 93 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: It's not just your confidence, it's your staff's confidence with 94 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: you. You can be a cornerback. Can I put him on 95 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: an island against the boundary receiver? Hey, this kid's not 96 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: quite as twitchy as we thought. He doesn't play at 97 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: corner with as much confidence. Okay, we better go zone, 98 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: we better roll over. Help. It does matter because the 99 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: expectations with the first round player in year two, Caleb 100 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: at any position is okay. Now he's got to be elite. 101 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: I've said this, you get about five starts. I want good, 102 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: real fast. Here's Caleb. 103 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: I take pride in, you know, trying to retain it all, 104 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 3: every single detailer we have. And I think that's where 105 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, I've been grown so far since Ben's been 106 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 3: Here's I retaining all the information. All of it makes 107 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: sense to me, and you know I've been able to 108 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: go out there and execute. 109 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So I also want to talk about we're going 110 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: to stay on this theme that everything matters a little. 111 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: So I know it's the Hall of Fame game. The 112 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: Chargers just barrel rolled the Detroit Lions. But when you 113 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: watch that game, it wasn't just that the Lions lost 114 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: everything something nothing's everything. They were sloppy five turnovers yet 115 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: didn't create any And sloppy is coaching and scheme and communication, 116 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: and it's coordinating. And what did the Lions do. They 117 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: didn't just lose two coordinators. They lost the talk of 118 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: the league at offensive coordinator, Ben Jonson and of the Bears, 119 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: and Aaron Glenn, who somehow got the Lions to a 120 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: top ten total defense, despite the fact it was with 121 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: band aids bondo smoking mirrors because everybody was hurt. So 122 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: they lost two great coordinators. And did they do a 123 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: league wide search to replace them. No, one guy on 124 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: staff elevated him. Another guy formerly on staff, they went 125 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: and got him. They chose comfort, That's what they chose, 126 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: comfort over the top candidate. They talked themselves into, well, 127 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: this guy knows who we are. This guy understands who 128 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: we are. And that's why I said to me, the 129 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Lions never forget Philadelphia. And this is where Nick Sirianni 130 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: and Dan Campbell and the Eagles and the Lions are 131 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: very similar here. So the Eagles and the Lions arguably 132 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: best two rosters in the NFC, and Sirianni and Campbell 133 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: are very coordinator dependent. They're not scheme guys like McVeagh 134 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: or Reid or Shanahan. They're not or Sean Payton. They're 135 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: not scheme guys. So Sirianni went from being in a 136 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl hired the wrong coordinators next year. At the 137 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: end of the year, the Eagles roster lost six of 138 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: seven and it was at that point the first or 139 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: second best roster in the NFL. Now it's the best 140 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: along with Baltimore. So again with a Sean McVay, he 141 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: loses coordinators annually, doesn't matter. He's a scheme guy, Andy Reid, 142 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, run through coordinators doesn't matter. But a guy 143 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: like Mike Tomlin or a Pete Carroll who are culture builders, 144 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: Guys like Nick Seriani or Dan Campbell culture builders. You 145 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: picked the wrong coordinator, you get in trouble. And I've 146 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: told buddies this for years. John Stewart, David Letterman, and 147 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: Bill Maher were stand up comedian. They're unbelievable, years and 148 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: years decades on their feet in clubs. When they host 149 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: a show, they're not as dependent on great writing. They're 150 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: better with it, but they can add live their way 151 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: to funny. Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert didn't have long 152 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: stand up careers. They got to their hosting spot different ways. 153 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: Very very competent guys, but different ways. They're probably going 154 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: to be more dependent on a lead writer being really good. Right. 155 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: That's the same way I look at scheme coaches Andy Reid, 156 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanan, Is, Sean Payton, Sean McVeigh. It doesn't matter, 157 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: it just they can just run through coordinators. But a 158 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: lot of these guys are kind of CEO culture builders, 159 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: and not all culture builders are bad coaches. I mean, 160 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson was his greatest strength was personnel and building 161 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: a staff. There's nothing wrong with that, but you got 162 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: to get the coordinators right if you're a scheme guy. 163 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying I don't question the lines gm 164 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: the roster Tenay Sewell, omar On Saint Brown, a Nudginson. 165 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: But when I watched that opening act, eight penalties, five turnovers, 166 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: they looked disorganized. Here's Dan Campbell on the loss first. 167 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 4: One out of the gate. Uh, you know we did. 168 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 4: The story of the game is we turned it over 169 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: five times and uh, and then we didn't get any takeaways. 170 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: So that's that's hard, you know. Uh, just from that standpoint, 171 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 4: when you put your defense in that kind of position, 172 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 4: that's that's tough. 173 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 5: No. 174 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 4: Offensively, like we said, it's hard to get in a 175 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 4: rhythm when you turn the ball over like that. We're 176 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 4: excited to watch some of these guys see how they did. 177 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: Grade the tape, learn from it, grow from it. That's 178 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: what it's about. 179 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll grade the tape. Let's start with a D 180 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: minus and work our way from there. That was bad, 181 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: that looked out of sorts, discombobulated. So all this stuff, 182 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: all these videos. I looked at the Caleb video. Remember, 183 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I think Caleb's great, but I also don't think he's 184 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I don't think he's guaranteed. I there's some 185 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: footwork stuff that's totally valid. There's some hero ball stuff 186 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and moodiness. Those are very fair critiques. Andrew Luck didn't 187 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: have any of those issues. And by the way, either 188 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: did John Elway. Andrew Luck and John Elway in my 189 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: lifetime are the two can't missus. Peyton Manning, by the 190 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: way I watched them in college, nervous feet, didn't have 191 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: a huge arm, didn't throw the prettiest ball, really intense 192 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the volunteers one and Natty after he left right like, 193 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: So there were questions about Peyton Manning. Nobody questioned his 194 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: robotic brain. He was ai pre ai like, he was 195 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: doing stuff at the line of scrimmage. Nobody else was. 196 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: But Caleb comes with some questions and they haven't been 197 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: answered yet. So it's okay to look at video. That 198 00:11:55,080 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: net video is something his reaction that was a time 199 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: people have concerns about you, and you validate them. His 200 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: accuracy and moodiness both on that tape, both on that 201 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: it's a little too angry, throwing it a net like 202 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: it's a little over the top. So it's just something 203 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: j MC. I hope you had a great vacation, Colin Wright, 204 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: Colin wrong in forty five minutes from now, you were 205 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: with a fam and an undisclosed location. The the other thing, 206 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm watching all this stuff, so I have 207 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: a take on this, the Micah part. There's two holdouts 208 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: right now in the NFL, the Micah Parsons thing in 209 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: Dallas and the Terry McLaurin issue in Washington. And I'm 210 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: just gonna say not all holdouts are the same. One 211 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: I'll totally defend and one I will not, And I'll 212 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: talk about that next. 213 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 214 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: and noon Easter non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 215 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 216 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 6: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 217 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 6: five to seven pm Eastern. 218 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 219 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: We never have enough time to get to everything we 220 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 6: want to get. 221 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 7: To, and that's why we have a brand new podcast 222 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 7: called over Promised. 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Listen Over Promised 242 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 7: with Pino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts 243 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 244 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: All right, Colin right, Colin wrong. On Monday, here we 245 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: go Where Colin was right, Jerry Jones once again has 246 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: mangled a contract situation. I said this a couple of 247 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: years ago. With Jerry, the Cowboys are starting to feel 248 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: like the Raiders when Al Davis aged Al lost his fastball. 249 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: I think I think Jerry has lost his fastball and 250 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: has too much power in the organization, the old saying 251 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: all hat no cattle. Jerry tells us he's a great businessman, 252 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: but he keeps getting taken to the cleaners by players 253 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and Micah, Now, what are you gonna do? Trade him? Now? 254 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? You could have traded him 255 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: last year and gotten multiple players that could help you 256 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: now in the NFC as it strengthens as a conference. 257 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: I don't like where Dallas is headed, and it's all 258 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: on Jerry where Colin was wrong. Well, Jimmy, I don't 259 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: know if I believe him, but Jimmy Haslam says the 260 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: Shadoor Sanders draft pick, Hey, I didn't do that. That 261 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: was all on Andrew Berry, And to that I would say, 262 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: why would you draft when you had Kenny Pickett and 263 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco? Why would you draft two more quarterbacks in 264 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: the third and fifth round? I don't get it, but 265 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: at least Jimmy Haslam is saying the right things publicly, 266 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: which is, hey, I didn't have anything to do with 267 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: a draft pick where Colin was right. Well, I won't 268 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: beat on it too much more, but Tyreek Hill said 269 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: last week that one of the Dolphins running backs shouldn't 270 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: be a short yardage tailback. On Sunday, Mike McDaniels said, yeah, 271 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: he isn't. We worked on that. So there appears to 272 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: be a gap this offseason between Tyreek and Tua, Tyreek 273 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: and the team, and Tyreek and Mike McDaniels. And we've 274 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: always said a lot more sizzle than actual state with 275 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: that acquisition where Colin was right JJ McCarthy, according to 276 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: Kevin Seaffert, respected reporter at ESPN, accuracy a bit of 277 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: an issue in the red zone. Jeremy Fowler, another respected reporter, 278 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: saying they're having to work a lot on touch. Everything 279 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: is a fastball. I don't know how good JJ McCarthy is, 280 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: but I never bought into the narrative that multiple teams 281 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: were going to move up in the draft to get him. 282 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,479 Speaker 1: I've heard the opposite is that there were real concerns 283 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that JJ McCarthy had been led by a great coach, 284 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: a great defense, a great run game in college and 285 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: never really had to lead inferior talent, which is what 286 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: happens in the NFL if you're a lottery quarterback where 287 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Colin was raw, Yeah, I may have to temper my 288 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titan predictions. They just got rid of their first 289 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: round receiver a couple of years ago, Treylon Burks, apparently 290 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: cam Ward. Last couple of practices four picks. Cam Ward admits, 291 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: we're really right now. Very mid is what he called 292 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: his offense between Tyler Lockett, Calvin Ridley, and Van Jefferson. 293 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: Now no Burks. It's arguably the weakest receiving core in 294 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. I do get two more revisions on my 295 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: NFL predictions, so I may have to scale back on 296 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: the Titans. Where Colin was right. Luca dantac Men's health 297 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: in the best shape of his career. This is what 298 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: I've said about Luca. Defense and being in great shape 299 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: are all about wanting to do you want to be 300 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: a great defender? Do you want to be in great shape? 301 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: When did Luca get in the best shape of his 302 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: career his first year as a rookie when he wanted 303 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: to impress, and now the Lakers have new owners. This 304 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: is why I've said he's a much better version to 305 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony. I don't worry about his game. I think 306 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna have an unbelievable season. Does he have the 307 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: want Lebron Kobe Michael They were great defenders because they 308 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: wanted to be great defenders. So he breaks into the NBA, 309 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: We're like, Wow, this guy's amazing and increasingly gets in 310 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: worse shape. Lakers have new owners, he has an offseason. 311 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Now once again he's in unbelievable shape. Where Colin was wrong. 312 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: The Indiana Fever are on a heater, all of it 313 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: without Caitlin Clark. Gotta be honest, she is a great player, 314 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: but Sophie Cunningham's been on fire hitting threes yesterday. They're 315 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: in a five game winning streak with no Caitlin Clark. So, 316 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 1: in fact, Kaitlin this year, between injuries and struggling, has 317 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: not been Caitlin Clark, and Indiana still has the fifth 318 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: best record in the league. Where Colin was right. What 319 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: do you know the Celtics minority owner is buying the 320 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: Connecticut Sun for three hundred and twenty five million dollars. 321 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: I had said this two weeks ago. Yes, Merch up 322 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: one thousand percent TV ratings attendance this league, and it's 323 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: got issues like it's officiating, like it's inability to handle 324 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark well, But is it a buy as a stock? Absolutely? 325 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't care about the last twenty five years merch 326 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: TV ratings attendance all up at least one hundred percent. 327 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: It's absolutely a buye as a sports franchise. I felt 328 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: this way five years ago about the MLS. I feel 329 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: that now, and so do one of the Boston Celtics 330 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: minority owners. 331 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 332 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 2: at noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 333 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 334 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: Colin Right, Colin Wrong on a Monday, and with that, 335 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback eighteen years three Pro Bowl stopping by show. 336 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: All right, you know I said earlier, whenever your issues 337 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: in college, I can see them in the pros. I'm 338 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: a little concerned. So I thought the questions about Caleb 339 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: Williams were little hero ball accuracy could be a little 340 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: dicey and moody. So when I see a video of 341 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: him freaking out, I see temper, I see accuracy issues. 342 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: I know I'm supposed to say it's yeah, it's just camp. 343 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: It's just thrown into a net. But those are some 344 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: of the things GM's told me they were concerned about. 345 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, I'm seeing that now in the pros. 346 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Should I be a little concerned about that net video? 347 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 8: Matt Hasselbeck, Well, it's year two, Colin. Listen. Year one, 348 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 8: rookie year. 349 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 5: You chuck some of those things up to a rookie situation. 350 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,959 Speaker 5: Year two, you know, training camp. I think we make 351 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 5: a little bit of like a huge deal at a 352 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 5: certain thing. Sometimes things are fun, sometimes things are poudy. 353 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 5: You don't know the whole story, but in general last 354 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 5: year to this year, you've even heard Ben Johnson talk 355 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 5: about it. Body language at the quarterback position matters. It 356 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 5: matters to your opponent, and it matters maybe just as 357 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 5: much to your teammates. And so the camera's always going 358 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 5: to be on him, like the microscope is always going. 359 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: To be on him. 360 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 8: A lot of people made a lot. 361 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 5: Of excuses for him last year. I think the excuses 362 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 5: are out the window. The focus is going to be 363 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 5: on him. And you know, like I've said many times, 364 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 5: you know your teammates get confidence or insecurity by how 365 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: you carry yourself as a franchise quarterback. 366 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah no, you've you been on that from day one. 367 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: So I said this. There are coaches in the league 368 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,959 Speaker 1: and you've probably had these. Maybe Mike Holmgren was one 369 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: of these where you get a great scheme coach that 370 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: he's a head coach, but if you put him on 371 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,239 Speaker 1: the headset, he'd call a great game. And then there 372 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: are coaches that Mike Tomlins a culture builder, I would 373 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: say Dan Campbell, Nick Siriani. They build cultures. There is 374 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that, but they are more dependent on 375 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: coordinat then, say as Sean McVay or a Sean Payton 376 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: or maybe again, maybe Holmgren was that Andy Reid's a guy. 377 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who his coordinator is. Offensively, they're fine. 378 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: Detroit loses two coordinators, including Ben Johnson, who was kind 379 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: of regarded as the hot coordinator in the market. I 380 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: know it's the Hall of Fame game. They were a mess. 381 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I mean, eight penalties, five turnover, They look disorganized. How 382 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: do I not look at that and go that's not great. 383 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: I watched Philadelphia miss on coordinators and lose six to 384 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: seven games off a Super Bowl year. Do I take 385 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: anything off that abysmal Hall of Fame game performance? 386 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 8: Well, you touched on a bunch of things there. 387 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 5: Listen. Culture is super important, and just because you're a 388 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 5: good play caller doesn't mean you're going to be a 389 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 5: head coach. But I think what you're talking about is 390 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 5: new coordinators, two new coordinators, and that's a lot of change. 391 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 5: It's a bigger deal than people realize in terms of 392 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 5: the preseason game. Listen, it's a big deal because. 393 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: But it's not. 394 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 5: It's a big deal because we've got to get those 395 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 5: things fixed. But it's not a big deal because it 396 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: just comes as a wake up call right away, National TV, 397 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 5: everyone knows about it, and then you come together as 398 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 5: a staff. You know, last year, I think there were 399 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 5: eight new head coaches. Two of them made the playoffs. 400 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 5: Some of those guys got this stuff figured out. You know, 401 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 5: I was actually there for the Seahawks first preseason game. 402 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 5: It's crazy, new head coach, new coordinators. It's crazy the 403 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 5: things that you don't get to cover in a training 404 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 5: camp situation until you get into a game situation. Where 405 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: are we doing halftime adjustments? Who's going first? Where are 406 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 5: we going to stand on the sidelines, Who's on what headset? 407 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 5: There's two lines on the headset. 408 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 8: Are you on line A? 409 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: Are you on line B? 410 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: So some of those kinks got to get worked out 411 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: in the preseason. That's kind of what the preseason is for. 412 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 5: But yeah, I would say they got a little bit 413 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 5: exposed right there. It doesn't mean they can't figure it 414 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: out though. 415 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: Okay, I said not all hold out to the same. 416 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin is a third round pick, has wildly outperformed 417 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: his contract. He's been a great guy. He's been crazy 418 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: productive until last year with bad I would pay him tomorrow, 419 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: especially when you brought Deebo. I'd pay him tomorrow. Micah 420 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: first round pick, been a Pro Bowl or been excellent, 421 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: But that's why you picked him twelve. He's got a 422 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: year left in his contract. I don't think he's been underpaid. 423 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: I think he's been paid appropriately on these two holdouts. 424 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: Do you see him as a former player as just 425 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: the same thing or are there different And I also 426 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: think it's an offensive league. I'd be more prone to 427 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: pay the offensive guy. How do you view McLaurin and 428 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: Micah's holdouts. 429 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 5: Well, mclaurin's tricky because he's so important, I think to 430 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels' success. I mean, Jayden Daniels was just incredible 431 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 5: last year. I'm such a huge fan. He was awesome. 432 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 5: And Terry McLaurin is like everything that you're looking for 433 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 5: in you know, with a veteran guy to put with 434 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 5: a young guy. And I think they could have a 435 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 5: lot of success, you know, you know, in the near future, 436 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 5: like years one, two, three, Like we could be a 437 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 5: contender every year. 438 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 8: They are a contender. They can compete with Philly. 439 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 5: What's unique about Dallas again another great player. Teammates love him, 440 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 5: you know what, He's exactly what you're looking for. Dallas, 441 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 5: Like they're not going to win their division, that doubt, 442 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 5: they're even second place in their division. 443 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 8: And now you've got a real public. It just feels 444 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 8: different in Dallas. 445 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 5: So I'm very curious, you know, the Cowboys seeing Jerry 446 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 5: Jones seems to like be fine with this kind of conflict, 447 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: fine with this kind of drama, but he also doesn't 448 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 5: seem like the kind of owner that wants to get 449 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 5: like pushed around publicly. So you know, there's a part 450 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 5: of me that says, hey, this is Michael Parsons. Figure 451 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 5: it out, closed the door, include the agent. Then there's 452 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 5: another part of me that says, hey, why don't you 453 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 5: just punt on this year anyway? Go out and get 454 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: like the most amazing draft package for next year and 455 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 5: really start focusing this team on next year, because I 456 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 5: really don't know that you can compete with Philly and 457 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: that you can compete really with Washington and then the 458 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 5: rest of the NFC. 459 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 8: So you know, this one's a little bit tricky for me. 460 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 5: But the gloves have come off unfortunately publicly, so it's 461 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 5: gotten a little ugly. 462 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: So I was talking I was golfing a couple days ago, 463 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: and I was joking with somebody. I said, whenever I 464 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: hit the ball great on the range, I know I'm 465 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: in trouble. And so it's like, I never have any 466 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: sense of how I'm going to hit going into a 467 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: round based on practice or to the range in the preseason. 468 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: What is something in your eighteen nineteen years, Matt that 469 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: carried over, Like if you did it well in preseason, 470 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: it did carry over. And are there things that you 471 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: thought you had mastered in preseason and it meant nothing 472 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: by the opening kickoff. 473 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're absolutely right calling I think run game, you know, 474 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 5: I look at the Baltimore Ravens. I think they're a 475 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 5: great preseason team. Part of that is they're great at 476 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: the run game. That's a commitment that they have. They've 477 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 5: got a great culture when it comes to that. They 478 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 5: know how they do things. But you know, to your point, 479 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 5: there were teams that we would play in the preseason. 480 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 5: I'll use the Chicago Bears when they were great with 481 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: like Brian Rlocker and those guys. They're a zone team. 482 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 5: You know, it really didn't matter who the defensive coordinator 483 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 5: was calling for. 484 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 8: They were a zone team. 485 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: But in the preseason they would play so much man 486 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: coverage because their scouts wanted to get a look at, Hey, 487 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: what kind of guys do we have in the second Like, 488 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 5: we're not going to call a lot of man coverage 489 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 5: in the season, but we are on purpose doing something 490 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 5: that puts our team at a disadvantage. We need to 491 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 5: know who can play man occasionally when we want to 492 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 5: bring a blitz and stuff like that. So there's not 493 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 5: a lot of scheming up and and you know, there's 494 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: there's not always calling what you're best at. Sometimes you're 495 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: even setting up your Week one opponent. But those are 496 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 5: two examples of things that I think can be a 497 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 5: little bit of fool's gold if you're trying to evaluate 498 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 5: what a team's going to be when you just watch 499 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 5: them in the preseason. 500 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting. Finally, I want you to tell me 501 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: the difference. I always feel that a quarterback under center 502 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: when he goes back gets to watch the defense. When 503 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: it's a shotgun, you have to watch the ball, and 504 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: you lose that half a second of watching your safeties react. 505 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: So Sean Payton would like bow Knicks to be under 506 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: center more than last year. You tell me, is that 507 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: something you can elevate too quickly? Is their? Or for 508 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a guy that you know, maybe Bowen Auburn and Oregon 509 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: has taken, He's taken the shotgun snaps. Tell me the transition. 510 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: How much that matters for a young quarterback like bon Nicks. 511 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a real thing, And I trust Sean Payton wholeheartedly. 512 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 5: I think bo Nick's gonna do a great job. I 513 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 5: think that's a team I would buy right now. 514 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 8: I mean, I love that. 515 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: Listen, Bill Walsh, Joe Montana. They love to be under center. 516 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: Almost never were they in shotgun. I actually believe it 517 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: was I forget the years, maybe like oh five maybe 518 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 5: for us in Seattle two thousand and five, when we 519 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 5: finally put the shotgun in, we got exposed, obviously or 520 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 5: ironically against the Chicago Bears er Locker Briggs and the 521 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: A gap, and we had no choice but to go shotgun. 522 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: But it is a huge advantage for the quarterback at 523 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 5: the snap with your hands already on the ball and 524 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 5: then your eyes on the free safety. Your eyes on 525 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: the free safety tell you so much. 526 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 8: But just like you said, if. 527 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: You're in shotgun and your eyes have to go down 528 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 5: to catch the ball first, you don't get that split 529 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 5: second advance of having your eyes on the secondary. Never 530 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: mind the fact the run keys that you're not giving 531 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: away when you're running back in shotgun is offset to 532 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 5: the right or to the left. So Sean Payton knows 533 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 5: what he's talking about, and he sees an opportunity. If 534 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 5: he can get his young quarterback to get comfortable under 535 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 5: center the way that he did with Drew Brees, then 536 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 5: he thinks that his offense can even take a bigger 537 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 5: step with run game play, action to the run and 538 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 5: then using their tight ending guy like Evan Ingram. 539 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 8: That could be huge for them this year. 540 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: By the way, it does appear that you're on a 541 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff. The shirt looks very official. Are you the 542 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: head coach or the offensive coordinator? 543 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: Now, my younger brother's the head coach, which is an 544 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: interesting dynamic. 545 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 8: I'm just the offensive coordinator. Today is picture day. 546 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 5: They said they might wait for me for the team photo, 547 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 5: depending on when this hit with you is over. If not, 548 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 5: they said it's twenty twenty five, they can just kind 549 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: of like superimpose me in a picture. We used to 550 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: do that when Paul Allen was the owner of the Seahawks. 551 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 5: He would never come back from you know, vacation or whatever. 552 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 5: We just would like superimpose him into the team photo. 553 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: So I know it can be done. There's only one 554 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck. Wait for the photo, guys, great Senia, see 555 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: it go on? All right? No, it's uh the end 556 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: the I think one of the one of the things 557 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: he said that which I've touched on, is that if 558 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: you struggle, players take cues from the quarterback. His temperament, 559 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: his body language, I used to be very critical of 560 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: Jake Cutler. I thought he had horrible body language. He'd 561 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: go stand by himself, he'd sit there and he'd get moody. 562 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's that's not it. You got to 563 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: be with the fellas you got. And there's another quarterback 564 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: that does that currently in the NFL. He's an older 565 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: guy playing in Pittsburgh. I'm just not a fan of that. 566 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: I I want you part of the group. So, uh, 567 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: it's something body language is clearly something