1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heard 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: radio podcast. Hello and welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Harrison. I'm coming to you live this week 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: from Orlando, Florida. Beautiful Orlando, Florida, UM, the Sunshine State 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: is living up to its name this week. I am 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: here for a big golf event with the LPGA Tour, 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: and easily the best part of this is that two 8 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: of my very dear friends are here as well, and 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: that is Ben Higgins and Wells Adams, and they are 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: going to be my guest today on this podcasting. Guys, 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: do we have a lot to talk about. There was 12 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: a headline this week and I think a lot of 13 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: people will expect me to comment on this, and I 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: will tell you right away I'm not going to make 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: a comment. I will make mention of this, and that 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: is Dianna, one of our former back solorettes, and Steven 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: Stagliano are getting divorced. And as somebody who knows them both, 18 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: loves them both, supports them both, and as someone who 19 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: has gone through a very public divorce with kids involved, 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: I would never make a comment about this other than 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 1: I support them. I wish them the best during this 22 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: very difficult time and whatever they can do best for 23 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: the kids, I know they will do and I love 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: you guys. So with that said, I want to bring 25 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: on my two guests, my dear friends, Ben Higgins and 26 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: Wells Adams. Gentlemen, Welcome. Wow, it's a big deal to 27 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: be here. Mr Chris. It's good to see you. I 28 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: am so happy that I get to be the jerk 29 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and when we're on the road, make you guys do 30 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: a podcast because I have done both. I have done 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: this for both of you, and I begrudgingly said, guys, 32 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: while while we're here in Orlando, we're going to do 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: a podcast together. Now, I'm that guy and it's the 34 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: same team from the almost Famous podcasts that's doing your podcast. Yes, 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: we're all with I Heart Radio. So it feels weird 36 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: to sit on this side. I feel like I want 37 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: to just reach out and hug everybody that's helping you 38 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: put this on, but I feel like I'm a guest 39 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: here and I can't. We're all grateful to my heart 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: and grateful to you guys. This is something that I 41 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: we have all wanted to have happened, where we all 42 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: ended up with the same golf event, and I we're 43 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: not going to bore you with any golf stories. Don't 44 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: worry about that. But this is our conduit to be together. Um, 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: whatever your social thing is that brings you together, this 46 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: brings this friendship together. We love golf, we love spending 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: time together. And the best part of this week I 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: was thinking about was we're getting it both ways. I've 49 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: had my my time with you guys, We've had our 50 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: boy time, and now also our our wives and fiance 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: are here, and so we got to hang out, have 52 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: a few drinks, play some golf, talk about all the 53 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: things we wanted to talk about, and now that the 54 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: wives and the ladies are here, we're having a great time, 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: but just a different time. It's a different a different dynamic. 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: But I'm glad we got to do both. We're all 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: grows up with our wives that are golf tournaments. It's 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: really horrible. I just think a nap. So both of 59 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: you guys took naps. But you know what's funny is 60 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: that Sarah was like, you know, golf is not her thing, 61 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and she was like, well, is Lauren coming? And I 62 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, I don't think so, and 63 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: she goes if I can get her to go, she's 64 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: coming because I want to hang out with Lauren and 65 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: jess and she's got her wish well. And you guys, 66 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: did I say you, I mean you the listeners. You know, 67 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: if you know Lauren at all, you know l Z 68 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: doesn't do sports. Um, she's not not into the sporting 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: sports stuff. The only reason she is here is because 70 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: Sarah called her and said, you're coming, And then Jesse 71 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: is here as well. And so this is the first 72 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: time we've all been able to hang out together like this, 73 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: with the wives, with the fiance. I can't call her 74 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: a wife yet, we're not quite married. We'll talk about 75 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: that in a little bit. But I love that. I 76 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: love that we've all gotten to this point. It's it's 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: nice and it's good that, like there's no stress for 78 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: me being like Jessica is gonna hang out with Lauren 79 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: and Sarah, Like it's just I know it's gonna be fun. 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm excited for them to hang out because I'm excited 81 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: for them to spend time together. And when your friends 82 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: meet great people, it just enhances life. Because now they're 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: all down here, Jessica walked all eighteen holes of golf 84 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: with me. I have a feeling that was Sarah and 85 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 1: Lauren here that's going to drastically decrease. Sarah and Lauren 86 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: are going to be at the clubhouse drinking mimosas, and 87 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: they're gonna be feeling great when we finished golf tomorrow. 88 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: I know Elzie's first question, where's the chicouderie? Where's the bar? 89 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: I will see you later. I love you. I will 90 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: see you later, And honestly, it's one of the things 91 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: and we'll talk again, we'll get into all this. But 92 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: one of the things I adore about Lauren, and I 93 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: know this too about Sarah and Jess. She knows it's 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: my thing and she loves that. I love this. That's it, 95 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: no matter what it is. It's one of the attributes 96 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: I love most about l Z is that she she 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: texts me every day. I hope you're having a great day. 98 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I hope you're having fun with this. And I know 99 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: that Sarah and Jess supports you guys being here and 100 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: doing stuff like this because it's our thing. We're not 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: doing We're not professional by any means. But I love 102 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: that and I love that they're both excited. They're all 103 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: excited that we're here. It's also important for healthy relationships 104 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: for each partner to have a hobby and like a 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: thing that they go do. And Sarah realizes, like golf 106 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: is my hobby, and she goes and does her thing, 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: and we both can support one another in those things 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: and then come together afterwards and be like, oh, how 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: is your day? Was horse riding horses fund today? Or 110 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: was dancing fund today? Was golf fund today? And I 111 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: think that's cornerstone like a really healthy relationship. It is tough. 112 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Your thing doesn't necessarily need to be my thing and 113 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: vice versa. Do you and jess have that too? Um, 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: Jessica's you know, she's a former college athlete, so a 115 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: lot of her thing. She loves going on long walks 116 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: by herself with her headphones and listening to a book 117 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: she loves to read. Um, she works out, and I 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: in my marriage, it's only been a year, but she 119 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: fully supports me going to golf. No, I don't want 120 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: to take advantage of that and go every day of 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: the week and you know, say hey, I'll see in 122 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: you know never, but a hundred percent we have her 123 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: own thing. We come together uh, and that was kind 124 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: of uh. A pillar when we got married is that 125 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna always keep our own things so that we 126 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: have something to talk about the end of the day. 127 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Also like we have something interesting to share with each other. 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: If not, it gets you know, boring, It's funny. I 129 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: was distracted because something just went off on your phone 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: and I see this beautiful picture of Jessica on your 131 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: and but you mentioned her being a track star. So Jessica, 132 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, was an absolute 133 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: stod at Old Miss, a track star. Um Wells also 134 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: went to Old Miss. Totally different kind of rock star, 135 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: totally different experience at Old Miss. Yeah, I was running 136 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: a lot, but it was from the law. So I 137 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: apologize to all the listeners because I I we totally 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: got sidetracked and I have buried the lead. So when 139 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: we come back, we will jump into the tea that 140 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: has spilled in Orlando. Goodness, the drama that has enveloped 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: this event when we returned. Welcome back to the most 142 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: dramatic podcast ever. Chris Harrison here in Orlando with two 143 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: very good friends, Ben Higgins and Wells Adams. So we 144 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: arrived last Tuesday for this event. Before I get on 145 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: the plane, I get a text message from Ben Higgins 146 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: in the locker room, and it's our our lockers. They're 147 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: nice enough to give you lockers at this event. It 148 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: says Chris Harrison on the locker. It says Ben Higgins 149 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: on the locker sea alphabetic order. Next to Ben Higgins 150 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: is Chris Lane, country music star. Do I do? I 151 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: need to explain who Chris Lane is and this whole thing, 152 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: so can I? What's the thumbnail sketch of this? I 153 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: think you probably have listeners outside of back stor Nation. 154 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: I think it's important to explain the the whole situation. Okay, 155 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I will try to explain this very quick. This is 156 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: the thirty thousand foot flyover. Ben Higgins was the bachelor. 157 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,839 Speaker 1: At one point he was engaged to a very nice 158 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: woman named Lauren. They broke up amicably, and Lauren has 159 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: since gotten married and had children with country music star 160 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: Chris Lane. And we are all together here at the 161 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Gulf Tournament in Orlando, and his locker is right next 162 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: to Ben Higgins. I mean, and when you say right 163 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: next to it's it's right next to me mine. Before 164 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: this tournament, I haven't seen Laurence since we broke up, 165 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think I've seen her once. And uh, 166 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: obviously life now has moved far beyond that relationship, but 167 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: that relationship still is an important season or you know, 168 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: time in my life. And so I would be lying 169 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: if I if I wasn't a little anxious about the 170 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: idea of, you know, being at this tournament with Lauren 171 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: and Chris and then also Lauren's family, who I imagined 172 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: was going to be coming down, and no matter what, 173 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: we're all adults, So I wasn't worried about the outcome 174 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: or how we'd handle it. I was mostly just saying, hey, 175 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: this is a fun week of golf. This is gonna 176 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: feel odd, you know that first running like what's that 177 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: gonna be? Like? You just I don't know if anybody 178 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: out there, and maybe I'm wrong, is like super jacked 179 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: to see somebody who they've split ways within their life, 180 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, amicably, but they split ways with them. So 181 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I was I was anxious about it, um and then 182 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: to walk into the locker room and see that, oh, 183 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be definitely running into each other, Like there's 184 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: there's some people that Serma, I haven't seen yet at all. 185 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him ever. But no, we're gonna be. 186 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna be putting our shoes on, changing together, changing, 187 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: showering together, sna ing together. Um. So I have so 188 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: many things, and there's another great story coming up about dinner. 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: But just to give you the details, Lauren is not here. 190 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: She didn't come. Um, she's I believe, home with the kids. 191 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: Lauren's dad is here. I talked to him. I talked 192 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: to Chris and and his brother. His twin brother is here, 193 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: Caddy and for him, and Lauren's dad is here. He 194 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 1: came up and said hi to me as well. But 195 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: as far as when we would run into them, it 196 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: happened the first night. Wells and Ben and I are 197 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: at the bar here at this beautiful hotel, and sitting 198 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: two ft away at the bar is Chris Lane, his 199 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: bandmates and his brother and you're right there. Did you 200 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: guys have a moment? Did you say hello? Hug it out? Well? 201 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure for him, he obviously no. You 202 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: know knows our history as well. So right away I 203 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: saw him. He didn't see me, so this that he 204 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: was kind of had his his head turn and I 205 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: walked up and I said, Hey, Chris, good to see you. 206 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: I just I had told Jessica like I wanted to 207 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: say hi. I mean, one, he has a there's a 208 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: lot of things that congratulate him. On to two children, 209 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: Congratulations to Chris and Lauren. God bless him. Um. And 210 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: you know he's down here at the Gloss for the 211 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: first time. This is my fourth year, so I'm kind 212 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: of a vet at this and so I just I well, 213 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I told her, I was like, if I see him, 214 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go say hi because I would like 215 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: to say hi anyways. Um, and so I did. I 216 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: just walked up and I said, hey, Chris, and I 217 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: will tell you, Um, it has been nothing but great. Uh, 218 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: it's been nice to to talk to him. It wasn't 219 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: It's not been the only time I've talked to him. 220 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: It's there's been four or five now run ins and 221 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: encounters and we talked golf and and then Lauren's dad 222 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: and I were able to catch up. Um. He actually 223 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: said hi to me. I didn't. I walked past him 224 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: and he said Ben, which felt really good. Um. I 225 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: wish it was you bed Son come home. Definitely not Yeah, 226 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: not no, I think he's very happy with where his 227 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: life shook out. But um, yeah, it's there's just a 228 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: lot to break down. It's hard to explain that moment 229 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: and how to handle it well. And but I will 230 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: tell you, Chris was it was really nice and it's 231 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: been fun to be around them at this tournament and 232 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad we did it like it. You know, when 233 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: you go through a breakup, there's always that moment where 234 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: like the band aid gets ripped off afterwards and then 235 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: you can start to heal. I kind of and I 236 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: don't even know, but they kind of felt like that 237 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: a little bit too, where it's just like, Okay, if 238 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Lauren comes down tomorrow, I don't know if she is 239 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: or not, and I run into her, it will be 240 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: good to see her, Like, it will be nice to 241 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: just like say, okay, we've done this next chapter of 242 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: our lives. You disagree, no way. Man, If my girlfriend 243 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: was my ex girlfriend was here, I'd be like, I 244 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: do not want to see them at all. You're just 245 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: too nice of a guy. Well, I don't know if 246 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: like you would have said, hey, what's your preference, Like 247 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: if if like is your preference that you're gonna be 248 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: hanging out and having dinner all of you at the 249 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: same table like one. This is because like this is 250 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: a special event for you. I know you look forward 251 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: to it all year and and for this to have happened, 252 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: I know this isn't the dream scenario. But as well 253 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: as just stated very accurately, you are a great guy. 254 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Because what I noticed at the bar the dynamic. And 255 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: I was actually talking to Chris because I was at 256 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: the bar ordering drinks for everybody, um, and Chris was there, 257 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: so we sat there talking and you know that he 258 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: had been on the show before and catching up on 259 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: the kids and how tired he's been because they have 260 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: a newborn and so um. But to watch you, you 261 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: could have easily ignored the situation, acted like the elephant 262 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: was not in the room because he didn't quite make 263 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: eye contact, so it took you to walk over to 264 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: do that. Not that he was ignoring you, but I'm 265 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: just saying I don't think you guys could have easily 266 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: just ignored each other and acted like this thing didn't exist. 267 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: And instead you burst the bubble and just said, hey man, 268 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: you see you. Yeah. Well, And it also could have 269 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: gone when I said that, he could have been a 270 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: jerk to me, and he wasn't, so, you know, so 271 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: it moves it to a healthy place. He could I 272 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: could have walked up and be like, dude, don't talk 273 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: to me, and then it would have been like, well, crap, 274 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: now though we have four days of weirdness. He didn't 275 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: at all. It was a you know, it was a 276 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: healthy and like interaction. Um no, I will admit that 277 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: if you wrote down, hey, what's your dreams new? Like, 278 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: this is a big event for me. You know, my 279 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: family's down here, my wife is down here, my friends 280 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: are here, Like I've dreamed of playing golf with Chris 281 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: and Welles in one of these tournaments for six years, 282 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: Like it has been something that I've wanted to do, 283 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: and I always wanted to do it here because this 284 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: tournament is so fun to me. It's it's just a 285 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: really good tournament and it's and it's a healthy atmosphere. 286 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: And so to have that happen at this thing that 287 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: I hold so sacred and special would not be ideal. 288 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Be honest. Are you are you happy that Wells and 289 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: I were here to witness this with you? Or is 290 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: this your biggest nightmare? Both both. I'm glad that we 291 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: can do this because now we can talk about a podcast. 292 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm so thankful that we can give you content. 293 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: I've been I've been saying all week, thank you, Ben, 294 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: You've been You're writing my podcast. Day after day, You've 295 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: been adding and I thought, I thought this was going 296 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: to crescendo um on Friday because the tournament directors reality, Yeah, 297 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: the tournament directors are not Bachelor fans, clearly because the 298 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: TV producer, the sick twisted mind of me um So, 299 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Ben Higgins were very close in the 300 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: point totals, and I thought, well, you're gonna put them together. 301 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna make them play together against each other. That's 302 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: just a no brainer. And they didn't do it. Instead, 303 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: the good thing is Wells and band got to play together. 304 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I was very jealous, you guys got to play together. 305 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: But I was so bommed. I thought, Oh, this is magic. 306 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have five episodes to 307 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: cover on this whole day of you guys. But it 308 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But something did happen, and there is a 309 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: story that will make you cringe, make you cry, and 310 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: make you laugh. And that's next, Welcome back to the 311 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: most dramatic podcast ever, Ben Higgins Wells Adams. Here in 312 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: my hotel room. We're here in Orlando for an amazing event, 313 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: the LPGA Tour. Thank you to the LPGA Tour, by 314 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: the way. So this has been a real family affair. 315 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: We've been eating meals together. So we're at dinner the 316 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: other night. We're just at a little pizza place having 317 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: a beer, and there's a guy that I don't really 318 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 1: know him that well. His name is Trip. He's a 319 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: caddy and somehow we mentioned the name Chris Lane. Wells Adams, 320 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: please take the story from here. So we're all out 321 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: to dinner and we explain to Trip that, uh, this 322 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Chris Lane's there, and so he decides to He's like, 323 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. So he looks him 324 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: up and he finds a picture and he goes, well, look, 325 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: his wife's pretty freaking hot. Look at her and and 326 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: points the phone at I'm sitting next to Ben at 327 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: me and then and I had this look of utter terror. 328 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if you're messing with 329 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: us or not. He's like, what, you know who that is? Right? 330 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: And he goes, no, she's just it's a hot chick 331 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: hat spends X and they got engaged to on television, 332 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: and Wills didn't even do it full justice of how 333 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: uncomfortable this moment was when this guy and it was 334 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: as if we were shooting this for television. Wells and 335 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: Ben and I are lined up so the three of 336 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: us can see this guy when he turns the phone 337 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: around and he says, God, Chris Lane's wife is she's 338 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: a smoke show. And I'm like, I looked at Wells, 339 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: I go, He's he's joking right in this case, No, man, 340 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: she's really hot. And I thought this guy is either 341 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: the smartest, most genius comedian I've ever met, or he's 342 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: the dumbest human being. Turns out it's the latter, unfortunately. 343 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: So he was going on and on about how hot 344 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: Lauren was to Ben and Wells and I and I 345 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: finally just said, buddy, you gotta stop talking. You gotta 346 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: shut up, because he kept making it where he was 347 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to make it better, because you know, when you're 348 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: really uncomfortable and you're like, no, I mean she's just 349 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: Smulls don't know, I really want to be with her. 350 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: It's like I want to take a bathroom, like please 351 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: stop talking, just stop talking, and it got worse and 352 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: worse and worse. Ben Higgins, Yeah again. Um, I'm really 353 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: I'm really thankful that this weekend that I love so 354 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: much has has been so good and it has I mean, 355 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: these are good moments that make me laugh. I mean 356 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: they're funny now because to to fix the situation, I mean, 357 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: it was awkward for a long time and I almost 358 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: I just didn't say anything for walks. I was like, 359 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: this is so weird, and like, I don't know how 360 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: to respond, you know, how do I respond to him? 361 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: Be like she's really hot? Like cool man, like yes, 362 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: just stop talking, Like there's no good thing I can 363 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: say here, Like there's no way out of this. And 364 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: so finally when he finds out that that she is 365 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: my ex, to heal it, he finds a picture of 366 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: my wife and he goes, she's really hot too, and 367 00:20:55,359 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, stop, I forgot about my god talking. 368 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: That's what I forgotten. When he goes, oh my god, yeah, 369 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I know, thank you, but making it worse, I'd have 370 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: sex with your wife too. It's exactly how it felt. 371 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: It's exactly how it felt. To me, it was awesome 372 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: and in all seriousness, and I'm sure your listeners can relate. 373 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: These are very weird life moments. They are life moments 374 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: that don't always happen, but to some they happen. You 375 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: have an ex wife, you have an ex husband, you 376 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: have an ex friend, whatever, and you see them again, 377 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: and how are you going to handle it or how 378 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: are they going to handle it? What is going to 379 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: be said and not said? And it could not have 380 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: gone it has not it could have not gone better 381 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: in real life than what I could have imagined. Like, 382 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: it's been a really good thing. There's just been these 383 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: funny little moments in between, like, hey, what I love 384 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: to have? I've like when before I even saw Chris 385 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: and ran into him. What I want his locker right 386 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: next to mine? No, uh, what I want? The guy 387 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: across the table holding up a picture of my ax 388 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: in front of my family and me and everybody else 389 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: and be like, no, she's really hot. No I don't 390 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: want that. And I wanted all of it, but it happened. 391 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: It happened. But and you're right, I would say, if 392 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: you can get over yourself, swallow your pride, these moments 393 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: can be cathartic, and you realize none of this is 394 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. 395 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Everybody's good. You can actually be grateful for it and 396 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: be happy, and nobody really cares that much at this point. 397 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: And look when you're in the weeds of it and 398 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: it's happening to you right now. Um, you know, I 399 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: mentioned Dianna and Steven Stagliano unfortunately going through what they're 400 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: going through, and like right now, they're in the tempest 401 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 1: there in the middle of the storm. They're out at 402 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: that moment, but they will be and it's my hope 403 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: for them and and my my prayers for them is 404 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: that that it will get to that point when you 405 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: can see them again. I've gotten like that with my 406 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 1: ex um Lauren, and I spend time with her and 407 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: her husband. It's about our kids. It's about making everything 408 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: okay for them. So when you can get to that 409 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: point and laugh about it, it's a good thing. It's 410 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: a healthy thing. And and look, I think the good 411 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: Lord above has shined down upon you some grace and 412 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: let you play incredible golf, and that makes it okay. 413 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: I still want to win. I still like there's a 414 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: few people in this field that I would really like 415 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: to beat. Two of them are sitting in this room 416 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: with Yes, we're not competitive at all. Chris Lane is 417 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: another one. UM do him? You got him? Yeah, I 418 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: don't know. I know, I can't say as much about 419 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: beating Wells and I, but you'll definitely, you'll definitely take 420 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Chris home. And it was It's been an amazing week 421 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: and that was definitely great laughter for us. I want 422 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: to talk to you guys about life. We here's here's 423 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: a very interesting thing about it. I was thinking about us, 424 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: the three of us. One of the things I love 425 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: about the show is the couples that come out of it, 426 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: and you know, some of them are married. And but 427 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: then I thought, you know, we are a throuble that 428 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: has come out of the show. The only reason the 429 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: three of us hang out together and are such good 430 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: friends is because of the show. And one of the 431 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: gifts of this show is that we we are one 432 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: of the successful couples. And I am grateful for that 433 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: and it we all bonded over, you know, pretty much 434 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: after our time on the show. But I love that 435 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: about the show. Yeah, I would. I mean, when somebody 436 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: asked me about the show for me now, well, you know, 437 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: probably I won't speak for them, but probably a little different. 438 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: You still, you know, working on it. It doesn't I 439 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: can't point to a lot of things that it's still 440 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: a part of my Like the show is not really 441 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: a part of my life anymore, um, obviously except for 442 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: my podcast that I heard, except for weekly um. But 443 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: like the involvement the show, the thing that I'm most 444 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: that that I take away the most is the friendship. 445 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: A lot of those friendships have revolved around like shared 446 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: interest golf. Um. But it's something that I've I'm I'm 447 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: very thankful for because I never wanted to lose that. 448 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: That would be really sad for me. If you know, 449 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Chris and I wouldn't hang out again, you know, post 450 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor. That's something that's meant a 451 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: lot to me, is if like you know, I was 452 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: kind of there for six months gone, and you know, 453 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I move on with my life and you move on 454 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: and we go our separate ways. Because it is such 455 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: an impactful season for It was such an impactful season 456 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: for me, you know, for Wells and I, uh, a 457 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: lot of what we do is was never associated with 458 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: the show. Because we weren't on the same season. We 459 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: met outside of that through my heart actually and been 460 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: able to hang out. These are friendships that I really 461 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: care about, the people that I that I want in 462 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: my life, and that that's super special and it's something 463 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: that the show, you know, the romantic side of it 464 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: is obviously such a big part of that, but the 465 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: friendships and the other storylines I think are really cool 466 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: to focus on two to see who hangs out with 467 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: each other post show after so many years. One of 468 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: the things I noticed wells about us, and I think 469 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: it's probably indicative of the show and how we have 470 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: expressed our feelings. We talk, I think more intimately, more 471 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: honestly than most guys do, because I think we're just 472 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: used to it from the show, Like we go deep 473 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: and again it was boys time before the ladies showed up. 474 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: Usually when the ladies are here, we get deeper because 475 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: ladies are just better at that. There that that is 476 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: their sport is talking, that's that's their activity. We actually 477 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: do that. This group right here does it more than 478 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I do with my other buddies, and I think it's 479 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: because probably of our on the show. Well, I do think, uh, 480 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Batchel of the Batch and Batchroom Paradise 481 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: are all you know that. I think that the mission 482 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: statement is people getting engaged and married. But at the 483 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: end of the day, it's a relationship show, whether it's 484 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: relationships with like on my season of the Batch Story, 485 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: like I was friends with a bunch of the dudes 486 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: and hung out with all of them afterwards. Um, And 487 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: I think that the the fans of the show like 488 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: to see that almost as much as they like to 489 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: see the people happily in love and stuff. Um, you'll 490 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: go to these these like crazy events where they have 491 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: like the guys on stage and and they're all there. 492 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: It's all the buddies, and I feel like that's more 493 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: important than to the fans. And if it were the 494 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: engaged couple, which I think is cool, but for us, yeah, 495 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: I think, um, well, you were never on the show 496 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: as a contestant, but like the thing that that show 497 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: taught me the most was like how to be able 498 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: to talk about your feelings to other guys, which is 499 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 1: not a thing you normally do, but on the show 500 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: you do these things called man chats what they're called, right, 501 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: But I remember something like it. They'd be like why 502 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: don't you guys have a man chat over there and 503 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: you're like, what man would talk about the bears, I'm 504 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna talk about your feelings, and we got I got 505 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 1: so used to it. Then I brought it into my 506 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: regular life and we do it now and it's a 507 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: very I think, a very healthy, healthy thing for guys 508 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: to do that don't normally do, and to to speak 509 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: on that too. I remember the moment where I said, 510 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: I like Chris Harrison. I do when do we fall 511 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: in love? That moment? Yeah, so you're on I'm on 512 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: the show, I'm the Bachelor. We're in Jamaica at this 513 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: amazing I'm just saying, at this amazing mansion before after 514 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: those special brownies I don't know by during um brownies 515 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: they were just brown Yeah, they're just brownies. If you 516 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: ever go to Jamaica, try to find the brownie the 517 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: brownie man on the side of the road. He is magical. 518 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: And uh no, I'm at this huge mansion and it's 519 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: very empty, and then a bunch of producers move in 520 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: with me. I don't still know why. I'm assuming it 521 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: was to make me go crazy, and they did a 522 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: pretty good job at it. Um and so there was 523 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: like an off day, and I had been so produced 524 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: for so long. And it's not messing with my head, 525 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: it's not getting in my head. It's just you're tired 526 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: of being asked questions, You're tired of being asked about contestants. 527 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: You're just exhausted from talking about love. And all of 528 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: a sudden, out of nowhere, Chris shows up. And I'm 529 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: sitting on this couch in my like four minutes of silence, 530 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, gosh, dang it, here we go again, 531 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: like where's the cameras at? And he just sits down 532 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: and it's Sunday and he turns on the football game 533 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: and I still remember the game. It was like Bill's Eagles. 534 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: And we watched football, and we watched the whole entire game, 535 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: which was the most normal thing I had done in 536 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: three months. And we talked fantasy because I still had 537 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: a fantasy team that they were helping me, uh navigate, 538 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: And we talked football, and we talked about who was 539 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs, and we talked about 540 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: what the future and I all of a sudden I said, wait, 541 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: like this has there's no ulterior motives here. He just 542 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: came to watch football with me, Like, this is the 543 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: most normal I felt in three months and it and 544 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: it really was like I like this guy, Like I 545 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: actually could could kick it with this guy outside of 546 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: this show. Um. It was a very like humanizing, real 547 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: moment for me that said, no, I can make it 548 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: the next two weeks of this thing, just from that 549 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: little breath of fresh air into the real life. I 550 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that. I do. Yeah, I know, 551 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: I absolutely remember that the three our three lives have 552 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: changed dramatically over the last year to two years. You 553 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: guys are newly weds. I am a newly wed to be. Um, 554 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: how is life changed for you guys as newly weds. 555 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: It's in audience first, you know, it's been a year 556 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: and two months. For me, it's slowed down a lot. 557 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: I think is the biggest change for me. Um, I'm 558 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: home more. I don't want to be away as much. 559 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: I used to travel weekly from multiple days. I don't 560 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: enjoy that anymore. I always now fighting to get back home. Uh. 561 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: It's slowed down in the sense that Jessica and I 562 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: enjoy spending time together. She works out of the house. 563 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: I work, uh from my home office and when she 564 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: comes home. Our evenings together are special. We have dinner, 565 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: we catch up on our day, we go for a walk, 566 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: we go to bed, uh and watch a little Netflix like. 567 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: It's a very it's a very um slow pace that 568 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: is so healthy and that I enjoy like I have 569 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: fun with it. When I tell people this, like, it 570 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: sounds like you're sixty years old, and I hope, So, 571 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: I hope I'm doing the same thing at sixty years old. 572 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: I hope I'm enjoying my time with my wife. I'm 573 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: hope I'm hoping that we're staying in tune with where 574 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: we're at in our lives. I think that's a big change. 575 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: I think. Um. The other change for me is a 576 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: new sense of responsibility um as just being a husband, 577 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Like I have to be aware of where my wife, 578 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: you know, emotions are at, where she's at physically, what 579 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, where she's feeling about her career path and 580 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: her dreams. Uh. And that's a new responsibility that I 581 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: hold onto that I didn't ask myself to hold onto. 582 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it, but it's it's implemented in my 583 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: life now and so that's a huge part of my 584 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: thought processes. How's jess at like doing? Like how where 585 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: she at? Um? And it's what I enjoy? Uh but 586 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: those are being big changes that I didn't expect. Wells, 587 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: what about you? The thing was that we were engaged 588 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: longer than we dated because of COVID because we had 589 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: to wait for our wedding venue to allowed us to 590 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: have a bunch of people come and celebrate our wedding. 591 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: So I kind of lumped those years together, like I 592 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: think that like me being married is very similar to 593 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: like when we were engaged and was like we're going 594 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: to be married or whatever. So these past you know, 595 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: three and a half years have been really wonderful and 596 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I think it's it's so like not the sexy answer, 597 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: I think, and it's not something that people no one 598 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: ever told me. But the most wonderful thing about getting 599 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: married is uh I mean a satta from like the 600 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: cool sex that you get to have all the time. 601 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: Cool sex, Yeah you get Can I just tell you 602 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: you ruined it right there? Cool sex? Chris. I don't 603 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: know if anyone told you get you get to do 604 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: the sex? Uh No. But all joking aside, because once 605 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: you get married, you don't have sex. Uh um. You 606 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: get a teammate, like and having someone on your team 607 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: is like so invaluable And it's not a sexy answer 608 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 1: and it's not like the thing that anyone tells you, 609 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: but it's so true when you have someone who's like 610 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: always rooting for you, whether it's real wise or emotionally. 611 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: That's one thing, but also like someone that's always helping 612 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: you out when you go to parties and like someone 613 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: gets like too drunk and the other one's like, hey, 614 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna go now together, or like oh shoot, I 615 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: know that guy, but a note, remember his name. Don't worry. 616 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: I'll go up to him and I'll behave I'm Sarah. 617 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: What's your name? Got you? Like that kind of stuff 618 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: is so nice and it's like very comforting to have, 619 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: like you're just kind of like forging through life. Someone's 620 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: always in your corner. Yeah, it's really really nice. And 621 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: like for Sarah, she is outrageously successful and like so 622 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: good at her job and it's been really really wonderful 623 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: to sit back and watch someone like just knock Grand 624 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: Slams out of the park every year and so and 625 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: I think for her it's like it's really nice to 626 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: have me. They're like cheering her on and stuff, you know, 627 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: so it means so much more success and failure. Yeah, 628 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: it all is so much better with someone on your side. Um, 629 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: that's so true too, Like, and because Sarah goes up 630 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: for roles that like are huge things that you guys 631 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: are all watching on TV. IREC run lines with her 632 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: sometimes and she doesn't get them, which is insane to me. 633 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,479 Speaker 1: And it's tough. That's tough on her. And I'm such 634 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: a like, uh even keeled, pragmatic person where I I 635 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: can like calm her down and be like, it's okay, 636 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: it's not you know, the next thing is going to 637 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: be huge, like, and she leans on me for those things, 638 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: and that stuff is that I think really important. It's 639 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: it's absolutely huge. And the sex in the cool sex, 640 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: the sex but also the cool sex. Um. When I 641 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: think back on all of us, but especially you two 642 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: from the show, when I got to know you as 643 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: just these young men that were doing this crazy thing 644 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: to where you are now, it's stunning to think how 645 00:35:52,440 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: much life has changed on every level. Yeah has, but 646 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: that's I mean, you know, I would credit that season 647 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: of life for where I'm at now. Um, And like, 648 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: well I said I think I'm I'm a better husband. 649 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: Don't if I'm a good husband, I'm a better husband 650 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: because I do know how to speak about my emotions. 651 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: I do know how to be intentional. And and also 652 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: that season was was interesting. And I don't know if 653 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: this is what you're referencing, but when you get off 654 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: the show, you're known as a single, available human, like 655 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: you are in the dating pool, and everybody knows that 656 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: you're interested in finding a partner. And if you do 657 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: the show, well, then you hold yourself to a standard 658 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: and you present yourself as somebody that could be a 659 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: decent partner. And then you the longer you're off the 660 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: show and the longer in the dating pool, the more 661 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: you get known for being the single guy. And now 662 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: in my life is not that and it will never 663 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: be that again. But that be came my identity personally 664 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: for so long, was like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm available 665 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: and willing to date, and you know, and now that's 666 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: not a part of my life. And it's beautiful. It's 667 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: a beautiful cut off. It's a beautiful divorce, and but 668 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 1: it's a whole different path. You know, I'll never you know, 669 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: God willing be single again. Now you're just the boring 670 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: guy that takes naps. Now I'm the boring guy that 671 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: takes nas because I played eighteen holes of golf and 672 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted. We will wrap this up because no joke. 673 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: We're about to go to a huge family dinner all 674 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: of us. UM. But before we do, I need advice 675 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: from you guys. Yeah, I gotta turn the tables. The 676 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: last time I got married, it was the nineties. I 677 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: saw a wedding on love boat. But I think it's 678 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: changed since then. Um, and you guys are newly weds. 679 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: I am going to be I'm gonna be going through 680 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: all this. What the big look I know are why 681 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: your wives are going to hear this. We have to 682 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,280 Speaker 1: be very careful. Do not get divorced over this answer. 683 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: But tell me what you would keep? What do you 684 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: think I should definitely do Lauren and I should do 685 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: at our wedding? What should we not do? What? What 686 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,280 Speaker 1: one thing or anything would you not do? Again? Okay, 687 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: my wedding is more recent, so it's fresher in my mind, 688 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: so I'll go first. Okay, what you should definitely do? Um? 689 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: And you might have done this? Um? First one I 690 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: don't know, Bene if you did this, but someone gave 691 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: me this advice and it was it was great. They said, Okay, 692 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: after the ceremony, everyone's at the reception, steal away for 693 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, try to find some like higher ground 694 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: and go upstairs, just you two and look down on 695 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: all the people there that are celebrating your love and 696 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: are there because they love you. It was like a 697 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: super powerful moment. And it was so funny because in 698 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: seeing all these like weird amalgamations of friends come together 699 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: and hang out and laugh and drink and have this 700 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: amazing time, and it was like we did this, like 701 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: what a weird thing, Like we brought all these people together. 702 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 1: That was really cool. That was one of my favorite 703 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: things of my wedding. The thing that I would say 704 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,480 Speaker 1: to not do or like to create boundaries for, is 705 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: your photographer. I loved our photographers, but they and I 706 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: know in their minds, they want to capture everything for 707 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 1: you because it's a whirlwind and you and you know 708 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: you don't remember everything and you want to have those keepsakes. 709 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is what you really 710 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: want is to be able to spend a substantial amount 711 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: of time with the people that you love and when 712 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: that gets started and taken away from me because they 713 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: wanted to get this shot over here and this magic 714 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: out and all this stuff. And I remember there was 715 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: a moment in the night when they were taking a 716 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: lot of pictures and I had to say, Hey, you 717 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: know what, let's just do candids. I really want to 718 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: spend time with all these people that flew out here 719 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: and spent money to be with us and all this 720 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And U I wish I had done 721 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: it earlier and set boundaries. And I can't remember what 722 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: your third question was, Well, that was the main thing. 723 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: It's it's what's different from the nineties. I know what's 724 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: different from the nineties. Um. Yeah, that's, by the way, 725 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 1: great advice. And Ben, is there anything what advice would 726 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: you give me as I head into this chapter of 727 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: my life again? Well? I think the logistical advice we 728 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: were given was to invest the most money in good 729 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: drink and good music. And I think it worked like 730 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: if you have a good band or a good DJ, 731 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: whatever your you know, your budget is, and whatever you're 732 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of wanting, just make sure they're good. Um. The 733 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of um sentimental advice we got was to take 734 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: a deep breath during the ceremony and similar to wells 735 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: and look out over the people sit in front of you, 736 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: like to make it an awkward like I just want 737 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: to try to make eye contact and see this because 738 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: it is a very special moment and it means a lot. 739 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: And I was told the day of my wedding there's 740 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: two times that everybody in your life comes together to 741 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: celebrate you, your wedding day in your funeral, and I'm 742 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: really glad I could be there on my wedding day. Um, 743 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: we did something different and I don't know if it's 744 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: for everybody, but the most fun thing, um I thought 745 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: about our wedding, or the thing that Jessica and I 746 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 1: really wanted was we didn't do a sit down dinner, 747 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: And so as soon as the ceremony got over, the 748 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 1: bar opened up, the band started, and we rolled right 749 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: into the party. So we didn't sit down. There was 750 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,760 Speaker 1: grab and go food everywhere. That just was mostly because 751 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: Jessica and I didn't want to be up till midnight 752 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, if we don't have dinner, then 753 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: we can have a four and a half hour party 754 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 1: that everybody's dancing in UM, the thing I would take 755 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: away will be the thing that I would probably get 756 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: divorced over saying, but it just I don't remember our 757 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: flower arrangements. I just know they cost a ton of money. 758 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't remember what flowers we had anywhere. I 759 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 1: see pictures and I'm like, I had no clue. You 760 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: should have seen the flowers at Wells. Yeah, I thought 761 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: I was in a duck blind. It just to me, 762 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: and I know somebody out there is like, your crazy. 763 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 1: These are so important to me, I just don't remember him. 764 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: To the floral Society, we mean no harm. We love flowers. 765 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: You're talking to three guys here that you know, but 766 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: that that would just be it. But I think they're 767 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: very important because I think Jessica really loved our flowers 768 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: and really found them special. To me. I would just 769 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:33,080 Speaker 1: say like, yeah, yeah, I could go without. UM fellas, 770 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 1: thanks for being here, thank you, Thanks for thanks for 771 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: being in my life. I truly appreciate you guys. I 772 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: love you both. UM. I've said this many times over 773 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: the last year and a half to two years, how 774 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: much I appreciate both of you, UM immensely, and your 775 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: support has meant the world to me and l z 776 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 1: Um and I just love you guys and I this 777 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: week has been so magical on so many levels. I've 778 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: loved it. We've had every meal together, we've hung this 779 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: is like fantasy camp for us. It's been really special. 780 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well. It's a long time coming because 781 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: last year Ben and I played in it and we 782 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: were texting with you and we're like, next year we're 783 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: all going to do this together. And the fact that 784 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: we got to do it, it's really really special and 785 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: we got to get like one big golf picture together 786 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: so we can hang it up on the wall because 787 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: this is a long time coming, and it's it's so cool, man. 788 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,879 Speaker 1: And to have to have our stage of life here 789 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: where the wives are here, my fiance, to have mom 790 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: and dad here, Mom here, brother, It's it's just a 791 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: cool cool of that. And it's just been a special week. 792 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: It sure has. Well. I love you guys. It's been 793 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: a lot of fun, a big week in front of us. 794 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: We get to act like we we have along on 795 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: a golf course with a bunch of really great professionals. 796 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 1: But this is this is special. Who's buying dinner tonight? You? 797 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: It's your turn I can write it off on the podcast. 798 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, to my two guests Wells Adams, 799 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,400 Speaker 1: Ben Higgins, and to you Dramination. Thank you for the support, 800 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: for the love, and always for listening. I'll talk to 801 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: you next week because we have a lot more to 802 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: talk about. Thanks for listening. 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