WEBVTT - Mini Crush #35 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:29.720 Hey, everybody, Welcome to Mini Crush Monday edition, Early morning edition. 0:00:30.240 --> 0:00:35.800 It's a Monday on a Friday day. Boy. No, I'm 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:40.080 just I can't. I need to stop reading comments of 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:42.880 this whole What are they saying to you? Cavan On hearing? No, No, 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.680 I thought you meant like iTunes comments. No, our people 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:50.040 are great. Yeah, that's Kavanaught. Businesses never read the comments 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.200 and sonkers. No, I know, I've I've learned that lesson 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.600 in the hard way. God, I can I can manage 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.640 to stomach everything on my own terms. When I read 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.640 the comments on what like on like like a news site, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.520 or like on this or even Facebook from other people, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:05.680 it's just I can't. I can't even take it. What 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.399 are they saying, Chuck, what are they saying? Oh? No, 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.759 I know you don't want to go down this this dark, 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:14.560 dark path. Were we keep Movie Crush politics free? Right? Oh? 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.000 We have to it's it's it's in the contract. It's 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:20.039 in the Movie Crush compact. All right, everybody. So a 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.759 couple of bits of business of business here early on, 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:28.160 thanks to Laura from the Netherlands, we got our first 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.720 gift Batman returns trading cards. Oh that's where those came from. You. 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.680 You kind of chucked these trading cars. That's what Chuck does. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.560 He chucks things onto my desk. And I'm like, and 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:41.160 then you said gift and I was like, I thought 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:42.720 you meant like, this is a gift from you to 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.160 me exactly how it went down, said this is our 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.480 first band gift. I didn't hear that. And then you 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.320 pounded your fist on my desk. Yeah. They were awesome. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:02:00.520 They were vintage man like and uh, I remember their 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:04.640 tops trading cards and uh no bubble gum. But that's 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.640 cool because they each had like one of the really 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.960 fancy laminated kind of cards that the more high gloss photos. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.280 There was always one in each pack special card. I 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:14.720 didn't see that. I wonder if I didn't get my 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:16.239 special card, well, you can have one of mine. I 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:21.000 got three. Uh. And then she also Laura suggested she 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:22.840 wrote us a nice letter and suggested at the end 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:28.240 Peter Weir as a great overlook director. Um. I am 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.760 totally on board with that. Peter Weir is one of 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:36.440 my favorite all time directors and hugely underrated. So look 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.239 for a segment on Peter Weir. Uh and on that 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.480 I want to apologize folks, although I think you've been 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:46.519 enjoying this format, but I've been a little bit busy 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.240 lately in life and work. I have a lot of 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.400 things converging that has made me legit as busy as 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.000 I've ever been in my life. So if you've noticed 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.600 in these mini crushes lately, I haven't been doing I 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.640 have not abandoned, but I haven't been doing some of 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:05.160 those older segments like recommended viewing and uh stuff like that. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.000 Those require a little bit more time and research for me. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.960 So I've been lazy everyone, and I've been counting on 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:14.360 you to provide the content for these crowdsourcing man It's 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.480 the way of the future. But people seem to like it. 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.960 Of course they do, so I appreciate it everyone. I 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.360 will I will return to some of those beloved earlier segments, 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.840 um once things settled down for me, which should be November. 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:27.960 If I make it through this month, I will be well. 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.400 I believe in you joke, and I have a statement 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.120 to make on Facebook. A couple of weeks ago, I 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.440 said something about having guests on that have done bad 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.880 things in their past, like eventually this is gonna come 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:46.440 up with the me Too movement, Hollywood people being creeps 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:50.080 and what would I do when face with a Sophie's 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:54.880 choice of Hey, here's a guest from like a PR person. 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.040 Do you want to have this person on? And that happened. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.000 So I posted on face Book on the movie Crush page, like, 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.040 I need advice everyone, What do I do? What do 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:06.600 you think? I don't want to lose your trust as 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:11.400 a listener, um, But I do also believe in second 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:15.560 chances for a lot of people and their misdeeds. Not everyone, 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:19.000 was it, Louisy? Kay? No, I'm not gonna have Bill 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.560 Cosby on here. Well he's not. He's not going on 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.479 anyone to show anyone anytime soon. I'm not gonna have 0:04:23.480 --> 0:04:27.400 Harvey Weinstein on here now. But it's tough, um, And 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:31.360 I'm trying to decide if I should name this person. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:34.720 You know what, I'm not because that's not fair. I 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.600 don't think that's fair to do. But here here's how 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.080 it went down. I got a PR rep got in 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.440 touch and said, hey, this person is is sort of 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:46.840 uh is interested in coming on movie Crush and they're 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:50.200 doing press now for the first time in a while. Uh. 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.680 And again it is not luisy K, I can confirm 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:56.760 that null um and what and what what do you think? 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.160 What would you talk about? Which you know that was 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.039 very loaded thing to say. I knew it, knew what 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:04.560 she was asking though, like would you bring this up, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.880 these past misdeeds? So I thought long and hard. I 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:11.080 consulted you all as listeners. There was a really great 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:15.400 back and forth, hundreds of comments and replies, and everyone 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:21.279 was really thoughtful, um as in full of thought, very 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:25.800 considerate and how you went about answering these questions and 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.039 talking to each other, and it was really kind of 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.400 great to see. I think no one got snippy or mad, 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:34.560 or was shitty or sarcastic. Everyone was really like, took 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.200 it seriously um And I appreciate that, and I think 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.960 that in itself to me, and I even said so 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.880 on the post was made me feel good about this 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:49.240 community of listeners um that we have here. So uh, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.360 here's what I did. I thought long and hard, talked 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.960 to Emily about it as well, of course, and I 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:59.080 decided I would write this. Uh the this woman back 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.719 at the PR agency, I said this. I said, here's 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.640 the deal. I am a really big fan of this person. 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.920 I am a big big fan of his work over 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.080 the years, and ordinarily it would be a really good 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:15.960 get for this show. UM, top quality award winning actor. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:21.080 I said, but I can't whitewash this. I can't ignore 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:25.200 this because that would do a disservice to my listeners. Um. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.480 But I don't also want to make this a referendum 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.080 on this person or put this person on trial and 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.159 make them uncomfortable, because that's shitty to do to invite 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.680 someone on your show and then and then have like 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.280 a gotcha moment. Yeah, I'm not into that, Eve, That's 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.360 not cool. That's not what the show is. The show 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.159 is about talking about movies. And I said, of this 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.240 episode would be us doing that, I said, but I 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.599 would want to bring it up in the spirit of 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:56.680 having a dialogue about their progress and their uh regrets 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:01.080 and um in in the hope that we could all 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.600 move forward as a people and let me guess they passed. Well. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.720 I gotta response back that I believe, And she said, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.680 you know what. I showed this to him like verbatim, 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.600 and he actually really appreciated where you're coming from and 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:19.880 degrees and would do this. But our time in uh 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.520 New York is shorter than we thought. I don't think 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.160 we can do this now, but he does want to 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.640 come on in the future. That might have been a 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.720 bullshit way of saying like, Nope, we're only gonna do 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:33.080 you know, super friendly whitewashing ones. I guess so. But 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:35.880 like you said, in the past, isn't the soft past 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:40.160 just the non response? That's true. I could have gotten 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:45.200 no response or I don't know. Something about the way 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:47.760 she worded her response rang true, though, and I believe 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.320 that he was down with the way I presented the terms. 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.160 For lack of a better word, good on you, Chuck, 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:58.160 I mean, seriously, And it is tough because you know, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.160 we're in the midst of this time where so many 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:07.760 genuinely awful people are getting taken to task and there 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:11.720 it's not a gray area per se. But is there redemption? 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.280 Can there be redemption for people that it depends on 0:08:15.320 --> 0:08:20.360 the severity of the act and the willingness to make 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.200 it up to it and make moments how long ago? 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.400 What like people are a lot of people on our 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.680 Facebook page said, was this like someone in the last 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.640 year that did something awful? Was this something happened years ago? 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.840 Watching the Kavanaugh thing, they all made a very big 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.240 point of this is very serious. But it was thirty 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:42.680 six years ago, so it's like it's a weird time. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:44.560 It's a very weird time. I mean, I have seen 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.959 this person that was gonna come on movie crush make 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:53.920 public amends seemed very genuinely regretful. It has had big 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:59.160 ramifications on his life. UM rightfully so. But it isn't 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:01.040 like the thing though, isn't sort of like, Okay, I'm 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.000 gonna make amends and me a kulpa, you know, because 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.520 I got caught and because it's fucking with my money. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.840 I don't know, man, I think you have to make 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.480 that judgment yourself, whether whether you know to take it 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:15.600 at face value or whether they think anytime someone apologizes 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:20.120 publicly for something like that, every single person who watches 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:22.560 and listens has to make up their own mind about 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:27.520 whether or not they think that's a is uh genuine. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.800 I felt like this guy's was genuine. And by the way, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:33.520 when I said that it missed his life up in 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.680 a lot of way, I'm not saying like for him. 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.000 I'm saying there are a lot of a lot of 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:43.000 people on our Facebook page, UM talked about ramifications of 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:45.360 career in life and stuff like that. So that's that's 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:48.000 the only reason I bring that up. So it's a 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:52.719 weird time. I'm kind of glad this all happened because, um, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.840 it's uh, it's just a weird time. And I don't 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.200 think anyone quite knows what to do. Some people have 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:02.280 a zero tolerance policy with anything like that person needs 0:10:02.320 --> 0:10:06.760 to be dead and go away forever. Um. I don't know. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.520 It's all tough, and I'm sure there are people have 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:11.240 there chomping in the bit, like who are you talking about? 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:13.839 But you know what, I think, at the end of 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.920 the day, it doesn't really matter. It doesn't because it's like, 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.200 it's it's it's a it's it's it's a very common 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.040 situation that we're in now, and there are grades of it, 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.800 and it's a matter of like where do you stand 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.000 on you know, being able to forgive and move on 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.480 and let people continue to live their lives or whether 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:32.760 you just like, you know, shut somebody down forever and 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.520 all time. And I think there's some people that deserve 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.600 to be shut down forever and all time. Yeah, Bill 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:42.240 Cosby's going to jail. Um, But also do like it's 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.840 a personal thing. Don't support that person's career anymore than 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:49.000 don't support them with your dollars. Um. I think it's 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:53.920 a very personal decision. So and also this the other thing, 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.320 since I'm on the stangent I'm sick of, is this 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.400 whole It's started with the locker room talk and this 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.840 boy's will be boys and in the Kavanaugh hearing with 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.760 you know, we drank beer and we did this, and like, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:10.160 I never did that ship. I never got drunk in 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.120 high school to the point where I did something awful 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.719 to a woman. I always treated women and girls with 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.240 respect growing up because I was raised to do that. 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:24.000 So this I reject the notion that, like of locker 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.800 room talking, boys will be boys. Like, No, that's not 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.400 all boys and all men were not all like that. 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:34.199 So that's a shit excuse um for any actor or 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:38.880 politician to try it out there. Um. Anyway, I'm on 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:50.560 a soapbox. Let's get back to many crushing. Yeah, all right, everyone, 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:55.640 what can cleanse the palette better than troupe time? I'm 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.240 going to the movie crushers page as I do now, 0:11:58.320 --> 0:12:01.720 I don't put these out anymore. Good lord, four seventy 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.040 two tropes. I love it. I love it. Keep them coming, everyone, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.440 All right, I'm gonna start out this week everyone, And 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.240 by the way, I delete these as I go, so 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.280 if you've I don't know. If you get a notification 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:16.040 that your your comment has been deleted, it's not because 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:18.600 I don't like you because you did something wrong. Uh. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:20.000 This because that's the only way I can keep up 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:21.840 with these tropes, just to delete them as I go 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.120 and hopefully the list get shorter. But it really doesn't. 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:29.440 Gabriel Cortez says, uh, when the heroes nice boss is 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:33.120 actually the bad guy and the mean boss is actually 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.480 the good guy, typical in spy cop thrillers. You got 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.079 five likes for that, Gabriel, that's a good one that 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:45.520 for sure happens. Um here with these tropes, everyone not required. 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.840 But uh, if you can think of a specific example 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:50.240 in a movie for some of these, that might be 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:55.920 fun too. Um farouk uh Baracott, great name. I love 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.720 the name, faruke U. The evil guy has a mustache goatee. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.319 Very true. Bonus points for twirling it while laughing. Uh. Yeah, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.400 I don't know if that trope has really ever happened 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.040 except for the initial You can't pay the rent I 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:14.160 can't pay the rent. You must pay the rent. Man. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.839 I don't even know where that came from. That was 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.120 like a kid thing, uh, with a dastardly guy and 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.680 a and a lady. Yeah she was she tied to 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.640 the train tracks at the time, but it was something 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.640 like that. Remember Kenneth Branda's villain character and Wild Wild 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.840 West really really fit into this trope. He's got like 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:34.640 a crazy I never saw that. Yeah, it's not good, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.360 don't worry about it. But you know the story though, right, 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:39.680 you know how it's like the Giant Spider, Giant Spider. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:43.680 That's how fucking dude whose name I've forgotten now, well 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.480 he tells the story. But it was this producer who 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.760 used to be Barbara Streisand's hairdresser. Uh. And I can't 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.160 remember his name now, but he was like he was 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:54.520 a producer on like you know, the Tim Burton Batman, 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.240 I think, And that's sort of what got him like 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.520 really in the whole superhero world. And he was working 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:01.960 with Evan Smith to get him to write a draft 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.920 for this new Superman movie that Nick Cage was eventually 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.640 supposed to star in, and he insisted and he took 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:10.800 had a meeting in his house and he said, you 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.000 gotta have a giant spider and that ship and yeah, 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.800 well and then and then while while last is that 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:21.040 he finally got his giant spider sort of the great, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.800 big big climax because he produced that movie as well. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.440 Oh that's great, what a specific weird thing. I gotta 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.160 have a giant spider. Everybody, all right, we are moving 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:37.240 on then too. Um. Lauren Feeney says the maid or 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:41.120 gardener who never speaks any English, very true. That is 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:43.600 a probably a bit of a racist trope if you 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:47.120 think about it, and oftentimes in the past at least 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.440 has been played for comic effect. Um, you know, like 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:55.280 the the gardener out there who desperately needs to say 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:58.400 something to the homeowner but they don't speak English. Yeah, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:01.040 it's like it reminds me of Manuel on Fawlty Towers. 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.840 Have you seen Faulty Towers? Dude, I loved Faulty. That's 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:09.280 so great, But that character is very problematic Manuel Well, sure, yeah, 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.600 because he like doesn't speak English and he's trying to 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.360 learn English, but he's always getting into Kokie misadventures because 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.880 he can't quite express himself even though he's the one 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.200 that always knows the thing that's going to solve the 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:25.720 problem for Faulty John Clie's character, Um, but he can't 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:27.680 quite express it to him. And then Faulty just gets 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.640 enraged at him because he this. You know, he can't 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.360 speak English, and that's that's the literally the heart of 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.960 the joke, because he can't speak English. Yeah, alright. We 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.200 move on to Michael Green. The water spray from a 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.560 car too close to the curb after a rainy date 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.280 that splashes the guy or the gal waiting at the 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:47.040 bus stop after an already crappy morning. Michael, you are 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.440 on the money there, my friend. That is a trope 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.560 of all tropes. Water splash from the car. I think 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:55.320 about that when it's raining hard and I see people 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.800 walking on the street. I've seen people get seriously splashed 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.000 and always feel bad for him. I'm having a deja 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:02.920 vu moment here, Chuck. I feel like we've if we 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:04.960 haven't mentioned it in trope time, we've certainly mentioned it 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:07.720 in some context before. But it's also like it's all 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.080 about adding insult to injury, where it's like someone's already 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.440 having a terrible day and then you know all this 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.760 bad stuffs happened that their dog died, and then they're 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.040 walking along and then it's like, seriously, it's like the splash. 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:22.880 It's like, come on, come on. They always say that too, 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:27.920 come on, come on, alright, Michael Castro with the poker trope, 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.360 good guy always wins the big pot at the end 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.600 with an amazing hand. That is true, Michael, and very 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:39.680 much a movie trope because if you've ever played poker, um, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.480 you know, sometimes you get that amazing hand, but most 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.240 hands in with a bluff on a pair of jack's. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.720 You know, that's real poker, everybody, which I really have 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.760 no no idea about, not much of a poke. Well. 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:56.600 And also the bad guy cheats. That's a bit of 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.280 a trope too. The bad guys chets. He's either guy 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.120 like a and a s up as sleeve or he 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.360 has a secret card under the table that he shuffles 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:09.600 into the deck where just see where that happened. I 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.160 just saw a movie. I can't remember what it was. Now, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:16.800 have you seen Rounders? I watched that pretty recently and 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:18.560 I think it holds up. That's a good poker I 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.760 thought it was a good poker movie. Yeah, remember Maverick, 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:24.080 that was another good poker movie. It's Mel Gibson cowboy 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.400 poker movie. Yeah, that's a There was the old TV 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:31.960 show Maverick and that's the movie version. Years later, Don 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:36.600 Morris nervous kid must use asthma and Haylor for sure. 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:39.280 And I'm gonna go ahead and read down here because 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.320 Don Morris and Kelly Shank had a little convo. Uh 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:44.760 and Kelly said, and they never use the in haler 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.200 the right way. Never. Don replies to Kelly, what's the 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.320 right way? What's the right way? Well, I don't know. 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.840 Um well, Don says, never ever and also in Hailer's 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:59.680 a the opposite of calming. And then Kelly responds, exactly 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.679 of ever seen the women and my family have asthma 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.439 tax because they're nervous or overly excited. It's usually air 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.919 quality over exertion. That's a good point. So we have 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:12.600 some asthmatics really getting Yeah, well, I guess the thing too, 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.240 is like the idea of an inhaler is that it 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.520 gives you instant relief or like that's sort of I 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.560 think what the trope is playing on. Whereas if you 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.960 were really having an anxiety attack, it's not quite as 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:23.720 a media of a thing, if you like popped a 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.320 pill or something like that. In Haler is almost like, 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.360 you know, it's like, okay, I'm better now. Yeah. Yeah. 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:32.399 The way you did that made me think of Dennis 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:38.600 Hopper inhaling its matress and get out of the car. 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:47.960 Such a great scar really really insane. Frank booth Man, God, 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.720 oh my god, my brother I might have told the 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:52.520 story before. He told me about that movie when he 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:53.960 was in college and I was in high school. He 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:56.719 was like, man, uh, you gotta watch this movie called 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:59.520 Blue Velvet. I never heard of David Lynch at that point. 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.159 And you know, Scott always fed me good culture, but 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.080 that was a mind blower in high school. Cannon Fatigue, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:12.560 great name horror movie trope. Group of people always split 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.240 up and are inevitably picked off one by one for sure. 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.359 And then Joel responds to him, Joel Coleman and no 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.840 one wears sensible shoes when running through the woods. Uh, 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.000 that's true. Sometimes you don't have a choice, though, Joel. 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:28.280 If you're all of a sudden face with a murder, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.119 you gotta you know the old saying, dodge the murderer 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:38.480 with the shoes. You're in be the shoes you want 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:42.800 to see in the world. What, Yeah, that's crazy, don't 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:46.760 worry about it. Um Oh, here's a good one, Tom Skidmore, 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.560 this is a quote trope, a line trope. Take these 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.000 handcuffs off and we'll see who the tough guy is. 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.639 That's a good one. I here's nothing good trope as 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:04.280 the really really painful, uncomfortable close up shot of somebody 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:08.679 squeezing their hands out of some sort of bond, you know, 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.439 whether it's like wire wrapped around the wrists or the 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.159 handcuffs or like you break your thumb and do it 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:17.399 or whatever, you know, super cut of that. I know 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:19.760 I would not want to see that the nail file 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:22.399 that you managed to saw through like, that's that's fine. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.400 I'm more talking about like the really painful, bloody bruise, 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.200 like pulling the hand out of some kind of horrible situations. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.919 That there's a really crazy shot like that in Mandy, 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.840 which I keep harping on, which I really really wanted 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:37.960 to see it. I know, you know how I can 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.720 see it, and so I will watch it very soon. Good, 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:44.480 all right. Gabriel Cortez says the context varies a lot 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.879 in this one, but it's so overused. Here's the situation, everyone, 0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:52.359 Person one, I need to tell you something important. Person 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.480 to me too, let me say my thing. First, Person 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:58.240 too says their thing. Person Too then says, now, what 0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.760 did you want to tell me? Person one says something 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.959 other than the original thing that they wanted to say. Uh, 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:08.639 that's a big one. And it's usually like in the 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:10.960 context of person one is in love with person to 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:13.359 have something I want to tell you, and they're clearly 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.439 going to out themselves and say that I love you. 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.840 Person Too says something like I'm going on a date 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:22.240 this Friday. And then person number one says they're They're like, 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:24.320 what were you gonna tell me? What was your important 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:29.840 thing in? Person number one says, oh, I I I 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.040 got off work early today. I have a really bad 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:38.640 bunyan thinking about going on the pediatrists can check that. 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.600 That's a good one. Gabriel, very good. And then we 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:45.640 will finish up troupe time with one of my favorite 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:52.679 movie crushers, Stellin Carlson, my pal. Everyone, Uh, here we go. 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:56.160 Person walks into a saloon, the piano stops playing, people 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.680 stop playing cards. Feels like a trope, but I might 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:02.159 have just seen several parodies of this one specific scene. No, no, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:03.879 I'm sure it started off as a trope and then 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:06.280 it became, you know, just part of the zeit geis 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.760 to the point where it's definitely it's been both it's 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:12.000 still in parody as those are the best kinds of 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:15.200 tropes that are elevated so high that then you can 0:22:15.200 --> 0:22:17.880 parody them and still you can do whatever you Yeah, exactly, 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:23.640 I love it. Good stuff Stelling and it's Stellan okay 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:25.920 because I like Stelling. Yeah, I mean you can, I 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:28.119 think you can lean into the stuff. But uh, you know, 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:31.879 you got like the Scarce guards, the Stelling Scarce Guard. Yeah. 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.760 And I don't say Stellen Brown, but you could. He 0:22:34.840 --> 0:22:37.119 might say it that way, not to ask him. You know. 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.760 One of my favorite all time bad funny Saturday Live 0:22:40.840 --> 0:22:45.000