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Speaker 2: The Bills Get Their Revenge, The Bills Repeating the Ravens
Speaker 2: twenty seven twenty five, and the Dramatic finish in Buffalo
Speaker 2: advance into the AFC Championship Game for the first time
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty one. Heartbreaking, heartbreaking loss for the Ravens.
Speaker 2: The Bills what head to Kansas City for a rematch?
Speaker 2: Remember Kansas City went to Buffalo. I think they lost
Speaker 2: by two, Well they lost by double digits. Now the
Speaker 2: regular season doesn't matter. If Buffalo proved they lost really big,
Speaker 2: really bad to Who's at the Ravens earlier.
Speaker 3: This year deck Henry red wild.
Speaker 2: But Buffalo gets their revenge and now they turned around
Speaker 2: and head back to Kansas City. Buffalo is the only
Speaker 2: team to beat Kansas City starters during the regular season,
Speaker 2: the entire regular season in twenty twenty four. Remember they
Speaker 2: sought their starters the last game. But at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, this game came down to turnovers and
Speaker 2: missed opportunities. The Ravens are gonna kick themselves. They turned
Speaker 2: the ball over. Lamar had two bad turnovers early in
Speaker 2: the ball game. And then this is a game that
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews is gonna want to forget. He had a
Speaker 2: couple of drops o shoe, he had a costly fumble
Speaker 2: and then the two point conversion you know in a
Speaker 2: situation like that, Ojoe, whether it's bad like that, if
Speaker 2: you bobble it sober, you're not gonna catch it again.
Speaker 2: Comes the balls too slick, you got no footing. And
Speaker 2: so once he bobbled it, you know, it was like, well,
Speaker 2: this is it, this is the opportunity. But when you
Speaker 2: look at this game and it's another disappointing season, and
Speaker 2: we can't place all of this at the feet of Lamar.
Speaker 2: I didn't think he played well early. I thought they
Speaker 2: got away from the running game too soon, Ohoe, because
Speaker 2: if you look at it coming, you look at it.
Speaker 2: Look at when they came out of the locker room
Speaker 2: in the third quarter and they got the ball.
Speaker 1: What they do with Joe boom, We bring down right
Speaker 1: down the field, running the ball right down there, go
Speaker 1: ahead they got Can you please explain to me understanding
Speaker 1: how you won all season long, even with the turnovers
Speaker 1: that you did have. He had the opportunity, You have opportunity.
Speaker 1: There are moments in the football game. There are moments
Speaker 1: in the playoff game. There are one, one, two, maybe
Speaker 1: three plays, if that that matter, out of all the
Speaker 1: players that you run in the game, and those those
Speaker 1: those moments, those players that actually mattered. They didn't capitalize
Speaker 1: on those opportunities, despite the turnovers that you had, Despite
Speaker 1: the turnovers likes, I'm not willing to blame the game
Speaker 1: on one person. I would never do that. The turnovers
Speaker 1: hurt from Lamar one of them. One of them didn't
Speaker 1: count because it was still tell you was it was
Speaker 1: still tied up and even though they go down to
Speaker 1: score on that turnover, you still had opportunity to tie
Speaker 1: the game back up. Second on the fumble. Now that's
Speaker 1: that's costly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that costly.
Speaker 2: Andrews You have to live with that, oho because we've
Speaker 2: seen him bobble the snap. We saw him against your
Speaker 2: your Bengals. He bobbled a snap and throw a touchdown
Speaker 2: to like, so you're gonna have to live with him.
Speaker 2: Because I know a lot of people say Lamar just
Speaker 2: fall on it, live to see another day. But what
Speaker 2: makes him Lamar Jackson is his ability to turn a
Speaker 2: disaster into something dynamic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tonight, tonight just wasn't it. I feel I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Mark Andrews on because it was right there,
Speaker 1: It was right there. All he had to do is
Speaker 1: be able to just to secure that catch. If anything,
Speaker 1: watch it. That's that was that sa second and third drop.
Speaker 1: That's the second he had two drops and the fumble.
Speaker 1: Remember they pushed it out.
Speaker 2: He had a big game, and the dude pushed it
Speaker 2: out and they go down and if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 2: I fact they went down and got a field goal.
Speaker 3: So that's what pushed it to an eight point game.
Speaker 1: You got to make that catch on by all means.
Speaker 1: You got to look that in. You got to stare
Speaker 1: at the lacers on that ball and look it all
Speaker 1: the way. And if you got to go back to
Speaker 1: the basics, the basic fundamentals are catching the ball. You
Speaker 1: can't drop a ball in that scenario like that. Now
Speaker 1: you can't because it gives your team another chance, a
Speaker 1: second chance.
Speaker 2: Now you put it back on your defense. Now you
Speaker 2: put it back on your defense to stop them. Don't
Speaker 2: let them get in field goal range. Now Josh, now
Speaker 2: maybe they're gonna play a little free. So now Josh
Speaker 2: is gonna probably do a little bit more running around
Speaker 2: because he has some freedom. So now he can rely
Speaker 2: on his legs. And I thought that's the thing that
Speaker 2: really helped Lamar on them, Like Buffalo didn't want to
Speaker 2: give him the big play but the one thing you
Speaker 2: gotta do is you gotta keep him in the pocket.
Speaker 2: You can't let him get outside the pocket. You let
Speaker 2: him get outside the pocket. So he started off, he's running.
Speaker 2: Now he gets outside of the pocket, he hits Likely,
Speaker 2: he gets outside of the pocket, he hits Sims, he
Speaker 2: gets outside of the pocket, hit Andrews. You can't let
Speaker 2: him get outside the pocket. Make him beat you from
Speaker 2: the pocket. And I know it's a lot easier said
Speaker 2: than done, but you want to keep him in that box.
Speaker 2: And if he works his magic in the box on Joe,
Speaker 2: you just have to live with that. Take take everything away.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna take away what I know you want
Speaker 2: to do, which is get outside of the pocket and
Speaker 2: buy yourself time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the first half the Bills played really good.
Speaker 1: They did half it looks like they they bullied. They
Speaker 1: bullied the Ravens on both sides of the ball, even
Speaker 1: though when you look at it now, I know I'm
Speaker 1: not blind. I know I'm not blind, and I know
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing the Ravens defensively or first and almost
Speaker 1: every statistical category. But what I saw from the Bills
Speaker 1: in the first half, it didn't seem that way. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the conditions played a part of
Speaker 1: that and then being successful running the ball and moving
Speaker 1: it down, but the intermediate game through the past, I
Speaker 1: don't know if the conditions played any kind of part
Speaker 1: in that. But like, it sucks. Let me tell you
Speaker 1: how I know it sucks because I feel bad for
Speaker 1: Lamar for one. And it's how you know I feel
Speaker 1: bad because I'm not even making fun of you. I'm
Speaker 1: not even making fun of you about your team losing
Speaker 1: and going on, Hey, I'm not even making fun of
Speaker 1: you because honestly, as a Bango, as much as I
Speaker 1: love my Bengals, I really thought and wanted and I
Speaker 1: can say this, I really wanted to win this one
Speaker 1: is I know he's gonna win the MVP, and I
Speaker 1: want him to have success in the playoffs and go far,
Speaker 1: you know, into the playoffs. We can get that monkey
Speaker 1: office back. So we get that monkey off back. And
Speaker 1: it just didn't happen. Obviously, to turnovers play the part
Speaker 1: in it. Even though there were moments in the game
Speaker 1: where thing could have shifted in their favor and given
Speaker 1: that team a little chance and opportunity to win, it
Speaker 1: just didn't go their way in that and that sucks.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is, oh Joe, is that we
Speaker 2: look at Lamar and we've saw we we've seen Lamar
Speaker 2: this season have games where he's damn there perfect well.
Speaker 2: He has a perfect quarterback FASc rating one fifty eight
Speaker 2: point three. You can't get the hire that. And we've
Speaker 2: seen him have those games. For whatever reason, we have,
Speaker 2: those games have come few and far between when it
Speaker 2: matters the most. This is when it matters the most
Speaker 2: because their finality to this, there is no tomorrow.
Speaker 3: There is no tomorrow.
Speaker 2: This great season, we got a All Pro quarterback that's
Speaker 2: probably gonna win his third MVP and a five year span.
Speaker 2: We got an All Pro running back that works runs
Speaker 2: for damn near two thousand yards now save Flywers not
Speaker 2: being in there.
Speaker 3: That hurt.
Speaker 2: But they still got two of the best tight ends
Speaker 2: they still got. I believe they got two top ten
Speaker 2: tight ends. Nobody else can say that in the NFL.
Speaker 2: They got, you know, Marlon Humphrey, maybe it was the
Speaker 2: first team All Pro at the slot. Hamilton made the
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. I think they had a defensive line. Matta
Speaker 2: beeth Wake made the Pro Bowl. They had another gun
Speaker 2: made the Pro Bowl. This is very disappointing. You look
Speaker 2: at the way they turned their season around, especially defensively,
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they were really good offensives. They lost some
Speaker 2: games that you're like, y'all go and y'all beat this team,
Speaker 2: but y'all lose to the Raiders.
Speaker 3: How the hell y'all lose to the Raiders?
Speaker 2: I think they lost, ended up losing, maybe ended some
Speaker 2: other team that wasn't very good, And you're asking yourself,
Speaker 2: how the Ravens losing to these teams with Lamar and
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry and all these weapons that they have. Is
Speaker 2: that if you go back and study Lamar and y'all
Speaker 2: can dressing up however you want to Ocho in the
Speaker 2: playoffs he's had.
Speaker 3: Look at how many games that he's actually played in
Speaker 3: the playoffs, and.
Speaker 2: Then look at how many multiple turnover games he's had
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Now go back juxon post rewind it
Speaker 2: press play, look at the regular season all of it starts,
Speaker 2: and look at how many multiple turnover games. Not nearly
Speaker 2: so damn near every game that he damn near every game,
Speaker 2: but two Thursday of the games that he's played in
Speaker 2: the playoffs, he's turning.
Speaker 3: The ball over. Then you turn the ball over.
Speaker 2: Not only do you don't give yourself to still get
Speaker 2: play after playoff to play, you give them possessions. So
Speaker 2: now they take you off the field because they're really
Speaker 2: not like a turnover defense on Hoe thinking occasionally, but
Speaker 2: they don't really like take the ball away like the
Speaker 2: old Raven points on the board with it. But now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, instead of you know, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 2: ten plays where you could have something to hang your
Speaker 2: hat on, you only get three plays because you've turned
Speaker 2: the ball over. And that's what it's hurting Lamar. And
Speaker 2: I know it's like, he's like, help we go again.
Speaker 2: It have to don't let anybody tell you. I know
Speaker 2: you're gonna say now that yes, it does because you
Speaker 2: know what happened last year you had two turnovers, and
Speaker 2: you had two turnovers in the first half this year,
Speaker 2: so you're playing all of a sudden, it's going through
Speaker 2: your mind and everybody's thinking the same thing in Baltimore,
Speaker 2: and we go again, Lemon, because think about it. O
Speaker 2: Joe the Man only had four interceptions being tied year season,
Speaker 2: so he plays eighteen games, eighteen plus eighteen plus wonder
Speaker 2: he didn't turn the ball over against Pittsburgh, So he
Speaker 2: played eighteen games with four interceptions, and then you come
Speaker 2: out here and have another interception and then I think
Speaker 2: you have but I mean had another fumble.
Speaker 3: He just has to let and I want.
Speaker 2: Him to get over this so bad because it's a
Speaker 2: very disappointing season. Because like I said, oh Joe, you
Speaker 2: and I both believe he's about to be a three
Speaker 2: time league MVP, and here he is.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 1: He's gonna win it. He's gonna win it because what
Speaker 1: he did during the regular season, you can't take it
Speaker 1: away from You can't because it was a special season.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: He has to understand and listen. I know Lamar already knows.
Speaker 1: When you go into the when you go into the postseason,
Speaker 1: and if you look at when you've made it before
Speaker 1: and you've lost, you've lost. The one thing in that
Speaker 1: he's the turnovers. You make it that much difficult. You
Speaker 1: put your team behind eight ball when when you turned
Speaker 1: the ball over, and you say it all the time ONNK,
Speaker 1: you play, you paid double for them, pay double, You
Speaker 1: paid double for him, even though you had a chance
Speaker 1: to come back. Now everything else has to go well
Speaker 1: or damned it perfect to get yourself back in the game.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: And if you look at look at Joe Flacco, Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco is not a third of the quarterback, but can't
Speaker 2: playoff time. Oh yeah, Joe Flaccos supposed that had have
Speaker 2: been the two Super Bowls. He hit Lee Evans in
Speaker 2: the hand and had the Patriots beat and he dropped it.
Speaker 2: Not it, And then we know he went on the road.
Speaker 2: He went on the road and beat Peyton in his house.
Speaker 2: He went on the road and beat Tom in his house.
Speaker 2: And he went and he won a super Bowl and
Speaker 2: he had Tom beat again in his house. Yeah, Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco played a buck. You would think, Joe, you like
Speaker 2: hold over in a minute. I hell you doing this
Speaker 2: in the playoff for you don't look nothing like this
Speaker 2: in the regular season. They just call him Joe Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2: That's Joe Montana. Yeah, protect just the opposite with Lamar, don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, o'jo. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's putting too much pressure. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's a mental hurdle. But for the turnovers, you go
Speaker 2: back and look at his first playoff game against the
Speaker 2: Titans in the division round. He turned the ball over.
Speaker 2: He played, Remember, and the next year he goes on
Speaker 2: the road to play Buffalo. He throws a one hundred
Speaker 2: plus yard interception. He comes back. Last year he had
Speaker 2: two interceptions. Jay Flowers had again. Jay Flowers interception turnover
Speaker 2: was costly because they was like at the one yard line.
Speaker 2: You would like to think o Jo where he fumbled
Speaker 2: in the end zone. So you like to think o Jo.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get points out of that, maybe a touchdown,
Speaker 2: and then Mark Andrew's driving again. He punches it out
Speaker 2: to drop pass from a two point conversion. It's just
Speaker 2: tough because they're gonna put this at Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 2: dropped the ball, Mark and you didn't play a good game.
Speaker 2: But they're gonna place this at the feet of Lamar
Speaker 2: because he's the best player. He's gonna be the guy
Speaker 2: that's gonna win the MVP, not Mark Andrews, not anybody else.
Speaker 1: But listen, he won the MVP right, not only what
Speaker 1: he was able to do with his legs, but also
Speaker 1: supporting casts. Yes, it's supportant Gas, you know, and you
Speaker 1: need to support and Cass to show up for you
Speaker 1: all the time as much as you'd like to. Now. Listen,
Speaker 1: the onus is on you as a quarterback. You know,
Speaker 1: when you win, you get the praise. When you lose,
Speaker 1: they gonna let you have it. But your supporting cast
Speaker 1: has to come in for you, especially in times like
Speaker 1: this and time they have to huh, they have to.
Speaker 2: Oh joe, if it was a situation where you know,
Speaker 2: they're going back and forth and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: somebody fumbled the ball and Lamar had one of those,
Speaker 2: had one of those days where he's like five touchdowns
Speaker 2: and he doesn't turn the ball over, but somebody else
Speaker 2: gets stripped or somebody you know, ball karens out their
Speaker 2: hands like, hey, I don't know that's Lamar. Y'all want
Speaker 2: Lamar to do? The man had five touchdown passes. He
Speaker 2: didn't have a turnover. That was the receiver got it
Speaker 2: pulled out. That was the running back to fumbled the ball.
Speaker 2: But these situations, O joe. They had three turnovers tonight
Speaker 2: that matched their total from the last seven games.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy. That's crazy. And conditions we can't make
Speaker 1: no excuses. Yeah, hell, the weather bad at Baltimore. That like,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, oh the weather bro do you Baltimore. What's
Speaker 1: the weather like in Baltimore? Cleveland? What's the weather like
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? Cincinnati? What's the weather like in Cincinnati? Pittsburgh?
Speaker 1: What's the weather like? Baltimore played bad weather games? Newsflash?
Speaker 2: And they don't play in a dome, right If you
Speaker 2: didn't know better, We're gonna talk about this game a
Speaker 2: little later. If I didn't tell you, if you didn't
Speaker 2: know the Rams were in La, you think, hold on,
Speaker 2: how's Matthew Stafford throwing the ball like this? How they
Speaker 2: doing what they do with it? They're not supposed to
Speaker 2: be able to do like this. It's sunny and calum
Speaker 2: for you. They playing a dome. Arizona is in a
Speaker 2: dome right.
Speaker 3: This.
Speaker 2: It's Mark Jackson Ojo has played eight playoff games, eight
Speaker 2: He's had multiple turnovers in half of them.
Speaker 1: Damn from from a from a playoff standpoint, and the
Speaker 1: chances chances at Lombardy right, what is the window of
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Ravens while they have, while they have
Speaker 1: the team that they have right now, what is there?
Speaker 1: What do you think the window of opportunity for the
Speaker 1: me is to actually get to a chip.
Speaker 2: As long as they got Lamart has still got a chance.
Speaker 2: No matter what, they still got a chance.
Speaker 3: Ojo.
Speaker 2: He's had multiple turnovers and only fourteen of his ninety
Speaker 2: four starts.
Speaker 3: That's fifteen percent.
Speaker 2: He's had turnovers and its eight starts fifty percent of
Speaker 2: the time. There it is for you in a nutshell.
Speaker 2: You pay double for turnovers in the playoffs, right because
Speaker 2: guess what if he doesn't for and when you turn
Speaker 2: the ball over, no matter who it is, obviously you
Speaker 2: don't want your quarterback h once he lead, once it
Speaker 2: leaves his hands. And but that last, that last, those
Speaker 2: last three points, ojo. So now that touchdown and you
Speaker 2: kick a field goal, You in the lead, right, you
Speaker 2: in the lead. Now you make Now you put the
Speaker 2: onus on them to go down and have to make
Speaker 2: plays for you. I just thought, and plus, look those turnovers,
Speaker 2: you could have overcome them, ojo. I just believe they
Speaker 2: got away from the running game too soon, because you.
Speaker 3: Look at what they did in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: They dominated, They went back to bully ball, we'll be
Speaker 2: more physical team, and all of a sudden, those runs
Speaker 2: that was one in two yards. Deck Herrity started getting
Speaker 2: ten twelve, Justice Hill, he's getting ten twenty stick with it,
Speaker 2: stick within it, don't be don't be disillusioned by the
Speaker 2: one to two because you know you're the Ravens.
Speaker 3: You're the number one rush team in football.
Speaker 2: That's what you're damn there being every year since Lamar
Speaker 2: is taken over at the quarterback position.
Speaker 3: Be true to who you are. Yes, we know Lamar
Speaker 3: can throw the ball, yes, but in.
Speaker 2: This situation, Hey, we're the more physical football team and
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna impose our real will. And the
Speaker 2: thing is, you know Zay Flowers playing and that's what
Speaker 2: you have to guard against.
Speaker 3: Ojo. He was in there. They already had to lead.
Speaker 2: He catch a little jail break screen and then you
Speaker 2: know he runs and the guy's cut things or falls
Speaker 2: on him and it looks like it.
Speaker 3: It looked like.
Speaker 2: It's innocent at the time, right, But he's your best receiver.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that's going to the Pro Bowl, and
Speaker 2: you don't have him for two games.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, Rashad Babman played well like him, played unbelievable. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be interested to see what they do it like it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's under contract, but somebody's gonna
Speaker 2: pay him a ton of money if he's not.
Speaker 1: Absolutely because he could play.
Speaker 3: He could play. He can run. I mean he big,
Speaker 3: he can run. He had jile. I mean for a
Speaker 3: guy his side, the way he can start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll stop playing cut transition.
Speaker 3: I really like his game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can do it. He can do everything really well,
Speaker 1: especially if he goes to another team that is more
Speaker 1: uh pass the centric you know as far as.
Speaker 3: And he's the number one option.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, and he's a he's a bigger part of
Speaker 2: the game playing, Yes, sir, he's a bigger part of
Speaker 2: the game play because look, first of all, Ravens are
Speaker 2: running team. We know that they flyers is the number
Speaker 2: one option, and he's having to split split targets and
Speaker 2: and and everything with Andrews. Now he goes, he gonna
Speaker 2: be the man to try. He gonna beat the number
Speaker 2: one tight end. And now with his ability to run
Speaker 2: the way he can catch it his catch radius.
Speaker 3: Hell, who just saying that he can't beat the number
Speaker 3: one option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a that's a possibility, depending on what
Speaker 1: hold on, depending on where you go.
Speaker 2: Now, yes, o Joe, the problem the possibility of him
Speaker 2: going somewhere, it's gonna be a team that needs me
Speaker 2: to receive and tight end, and he can make those plays.
Speaker 3: But if we talk about this all the time, oot.
Speaker 2: Joe, and and and and when we're talking about it,
Speaker 2: you're like, what happened if Lamar don't win? Because we
Speaker 2: we've already broke the subject, Like, oh, Joe, he wins
Speaker 2: the m v P and he doesn't get to the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, what are they gonna say? He didn't even
Speaker 2: get to the championship game this year. He got to
Speaker 2: the championship game last year. He didn't get to the
Speaker 2: championship game this year. And so again it's the games.
Speaker 2: You lose games to the Raiders. How you lose to
Speaker 2: the Raiders? Who they lose to ash? I know they
Speaker 2: lost to the Raiders. Oh they lost to Cleveland.
Speaker 3: They lost to Cleveland, or Joe, if y'all lose to Cleveland.
Speaker 1: And then when they went they went away from the run. Yes,
Speaker 1: went away from the run in that game as well.
Speaker 1: So now all of a sudden, you get Baltimore to
Speaker 1: come in your building.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if you have enough to overtake uh,
Speaker 2: to overtake Kansas City, but you know, Kansas City beat you.
Speaker 2: So if you're finished with the same record. They own
Speaker 2: the tie breaker because they beat your head to head. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Baltimore loose, I mean Buffalo losing that game. Now, Buffalo
Speaker 2: has a type of offense that can travel, because that
Speaker 2: quarterback is really really.
Speaker 1: Dangerous, very what you can play in any condition, any condition,
Speaker 1: because he can throw the ball through a hurricane, same
Speaker 1: as Lamar.
Speaker 3: You gotta contain him.
Speaker 2: You know, he's gonna buy time and by time and
Speaker 2: by time, the guy's gonna come open. He can run
Speaker 2: the ball. You know, you get outside the pocket and run.
Speaker 2: He can get outside the pocket and throw the ball
Speaker 2: over your head. He's really accurate. He can roll left,
Speaker 2: roll right. Uh, this team is capable. This is what
Speaker 2: they wanted, was an opportunity to get back in Kansas City,
Speaker 2: to go back to want one of their most painful
Speaker 2: losses because they had the game won with thirteen seconds
Speaker 2: on the clock on Joe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they had the game in hand.
Speaker 2: And they had the game think about don't you know
Speaker 2: they had the game like four or five times.
Speaker 3: Gave Davis comes to touchdown and put them up.
Speaker 2: They passed the ball to Tyreek and he puts them
Speaker 2: up and puts Kansas city back up and he gave
Speaker 2: David said no lim kill y'allself. He gets another touchdown.
Speaker 2: So now we got y'all at y'all. Hey, we just
Speaker 2: put the stake through the vampire's heart.
Speaker 1: Now that's crazy. But listen, I mean listen, man, listen, No,
Speaker 1: not back to you.
Speaker 3: Now. You can't say football ball.
Speaker 1: W w w won't won't you?
Speaker 2: That's the ball, that's the home board, that's the home team,
Speaker 2: that's Florida boy to the beach.
Speaker 1: Hold On, hold on now, I know that. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on now you you talked about your broncos you
Speaker 1: don't when you done grabbed all your helmet you and
Speaker 1: you were talking about the trophies last week and all that. Now,
Speaker 1: so I just want to let you know. You can't
Speaker 1: say play off?
Speaker 3: What about hell? Who is that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, y'all they went home last week. They
Speaker 1: went home last week.
Speaker 3: Hold on, what I do?
Speaker 1: Oh? Are you anything? Anything?
Speaker 3: Start with us? A b uhuh?
Speaker 1: Don't even say anything start with a bee? Nothing to
Speaker 1: start with a R to night the rest of the show,
Speaker 1: and I'm still I'm still upsetting.
Speaker 3: Boys, What do I do with?
Speaker 1: Don't Joe? What's that? What's that a cup holder. Na
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Hey, both both these teams at home now, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: You don't feel bad on Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm just being honest, you know. And people
Speaker 1: in the chat, I'm not sure if you if you're fan,
Speaker 1: if you're fans of the Ravens or not. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. I really I really wanted Lamar.
Speaker 1: Obviously my bangals are in it. And if there was anyone,
Speaker 1: if there was a horse that the had in the race,
Speaker 1: it was just wanting to see Lamar get it done.
Speaker 1: I want to see him. I'm just being honest. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest. So with it's it's it's upsetting to me,
Speaker 1: you know, and and I just I know I know
Speaker 1: they don't. Yeah, hey, y'all lost manhout parade. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to run on your parade. The parade is raining
Speaker 1: on you. That's the difference.
Speaker 2: Set up a little fun out, a little raven You know,
Speaker 2: sometimes I think you forgot I played for the raven.
Speaker 1: But huh, you you played for the Ravens and he
Speaker 1: was there for you there for two minutes.
Speaker 3: Who what not? Pack man?
Speaker 2: You can you see that pack with it, say something
Speaker 2: thirty five. It's warman numerals at thirty five. I don't
Speaker 2: know x x X five.
Speaker 1: Beat Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah you you you know you're a super
Speaker 1: Bowl champ. Congratulations. I want to Hey, I want a
Speaker 1: super Bowl on Madden.
Speaker 3: Oh can you see?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see you.
Speaker 3: I want to spot. I got two teams, you got
Speaker 3: no team, and now all of us out in the playoff.
Speaker 1: Listen, we can't't coon on three? Happy, however, you want
Speaker 1: to do it all right?
Speaker 3: One? Two, three can coon? Hey? I guess I will
Speaker 3: take me a drake.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take me a drink too, drink too, man.
Speaker 3: Man, they got away from the run to early.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, yeah, man, I say, I said, look, don't
Speaker 2: don't be frustrated.
Speaker 3: If it's not going well early, rely on deck here,
Speaker 3: rely on that run game. Damn.
Speaker 1: Hey, that won't hurt. But again, but again, as as
Speaker 1: a fan of the game, as a fan, as a
Speaker 1: fan of football, again, I didn't have no horse in
Speaker 1: the race. Now you just Lamar is a Florida port
Speaker 1: He's in the playoffs. That I was rooted fun, you know,
Speaker 1: on that side you know. So if anything, boy have that,
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. It didn't happen. I'm happy for
Speaker 1: the Bills fans. I'm sure there are a lot of
Speaker 1: Bills fans in the Congratulations to you guys. Congratulates to
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Now we're gonna have We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: nice game coming up another what a a ANFC championship game,
Speaker 1: the championship game. It's gonnas gonna be a good one.
Speaker 2: And beat him a couple of years. They beat him
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. They beat him one year
Speaker 2: in the championship game. Right then they happen to be
Speaker 2: beat already beat the uh the building the championship. I
Speaker 2: know that divisional that was the greatest divisional round.
Speaker 3: Because every play came down to the last second.
Speaker 2: Tennessee, uh uh no, your Bengals beat Tennessee on the
Speaker 2: last second kick.
Speaker 3: The uh uh who's that?
Speaker 2: Kansas City beat Buffalo on the last second touchdown, but
Speaker 2: both everybody, every the Rams, the Rams beat beat Tampa
Speaker 2: on the last second kick, and the forty nine it'scored,
Speaker 2: and the forty nine Ers beat Green Bay on the
Speaker 2: last second kick.
Speaker 3: So it was it was it was chaos. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: But man, I just feel I just feel bad because
Speaker 2: you know, you would have thought, now are three times potential,
Speaker 2: three time league MVP, what would have made it to
Speaker 2: the super Bowl by now? Yeah, he's young, he's twenty eight,
Speaker 2: but oh Joe, just Becauseomer Damn Marino went to the
Speaker 2: super Bowl at twenty three, yeah and never went back.
Speaker 2: We've got to stop saying, oh, he young, It ain't
Speaker 2: no guarantee you gotta take you gotta take advantage of
Speaker 2: these opportunities. There is no guarantee because Lamar Jackson is old,
Speaker 2: he's gonna get well. He got plented, bro.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked you that question earlier. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why that question is far at That window of opportunity
Speaker 1: goes based on the team, the structure of the team
Speaker 1: and the players that they have right now, what are
Speaker 1: their chances? And you know, obviously, whenever you have a
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, your chance is good every goddamn year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're supporting cab as does matter. So Lamar Jackson doesn't
Speaker 1: have to show that the load of everything and having
Speaker 1: the philis for the team on his back to get
Speaker 1: to a chip. If there was a year you were
Speaker 1: going to do it, it would be this year. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming they can keep everybody intact offensively and defensively. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who who has to leave, Who's due for
Speaker 1: cor tracts next year as well. Another opportunity probably Coyle
Speaker 1: Hamilton to do a contract.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, o Joe, is that when you
Speaker 2: look at it, is that they really didn't have no
Speaker 2: significant injury. Deg Henry's that the whole year. Lamar Jackson
Speaker 2: that the whole year, He'll the whole year like the
Speaker 2: whole year. Didn't get back to Yes, they missed the playoffs,
Speaker 2: but he was there the whole year for the most part.
Speaker 2: Their key guys played really well. Kyle Vanoy had what
Speaker 2: a career year in sacks. Yeah, do we believe he'll
Speaker 2: have another career of the year next year. At some
Speaker 2: point in time, Ojoe, when you take deg hen nineteen
Speaker 2: hundred yards, you Lamar Jackson had a season of seasons.
Speaker 2: At some point in time, you got to cash this
Speaker 2: in on Joe. Yeah, you can't get you can't keep
Speaker 2: getting up to the finish line and letting somebody nip
Speaker 2: you at the tape. Yeah, you got to you You've
Speaker 2: got to cash these moments. And and we do this
Speaker 2: all the time on Joe. Oh he's young. Uh, but
Speaker 2: that's not how it working sports. Just because you young,
Speaker 2: there ain't no guarantee. Yeah, guess what. Guess who else
Speaker 2: is young? A lot of the y'all think it seem
Speaker 2: like Mahomes party, he's only a year open than than
Speaker 2: than Lamar. Indeed, in this game, Josh Allen is a
Speaker 2: year younger. Look at up, look at these quarterback Jane
Speaker 2: Daniels is how old?
Speaker 1: But twenty three?
Speaker 2: Hell no, he can't. Yeah, he might be twenty three
Speaker 2: because he transferred. He transferred, He transferred from Arizona State.
Speaker 2: Jane Davis twenty four, Jay and Jays was twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you look at all these quarterbacks, Josh Allen, Joe,
Speaker 2: all these they're young.
Speaker 3: And none of these guys you look at.
Speaker 2: Up Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar, Josh Allen, bow Knicks, Jaydon Daniels,
Speaker 2: all these guys. Now, the older statesman is Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 2: he's thirty six. Jared Golfers in his thirties. But these
Speaker 2: young guns they're here, Yeah, they're here. Jordan Love Jeorde
Speaker 2: Love is twenty something, but the notion that, oh, he's young,
Speaker 2: he'll be back.
Speaker 3: There ain't no guarantee. You know that.
Speaker 1: You know the funny thing is about it, and be
Speaker 1: talking about you know, Lamar talk about old, he's young,
Speaker 1: he'll be back. Look at the slate of the AFC
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you just named. It's gonna be hell for the
Speaker 1: next decade. Yes, you he'll be back, boy, all right, Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, who else? Who else
Speaker 1: talked to me? AFC AC quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Both bow Knicks, justin Herbert were talking about guy made
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Yes, we know they're gonna get They're gonna
Speaker 2: get better, and the teams are gonna the teams are
Speaker 2: gonna regroup because theo when you play in the playoffs
Speaker 2: and you lose, the team will never be the same again.
Speaker 2: The exact same players that's in that locker room today,
Speaker 2: they won't be there next year. Some players are gonna
Speaker 2: co go some hold on, who's to say, Todd Munkey
Speaker 2: nothing get a head coaching job. Ah See, nobody ever
Speaker 2: factored that in right, Wait, I got another one for you.
Speaker 2: Listen with the Mino coach of interviewing this AF season.
Speaker 2: It's time for the Raymonds to move off from John Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: Nah No, I don't think so. I think Harv did
Speaker 2: a unbelievable job.
Speaker 3: Uh. They won another that Uh.
Speaker 2: I think it's disappointing, Joe, because again, we got a
Speaker 2: three time we gotta have a three time league MVP,
Speaker 2: and we're not in the super Bowl. He's won a
Speaker 2: super Bowl. It's gonna be disappointing. It's gonna be disappointing.
Speaker 2: His career would be what his career is. But if
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson doesn't get to a super Bowl show, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be very disappointing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be unfulfilling.
Speaker 2: Because he he promised the Ravens of Super Bowl he
Speaker 2: would he got drafted. Time ask him, what are the
Speaker 2: Ravens getting? He said, the Ravens are gonna get a
Speaker 2: super Bowl out of me. You can bet your Bob,
Speaker 2: you can bet on that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I think, you know what, Honestly, I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: hold true to his promise. I think he's going to
Speaker 1: hold true to his At some point. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: over that hunk. Huh. When you get to the playoffs
Speaker 1: and you protect the ball mm hm as opposed to
Speaker 1: how you have you know and in another post, your
Speaker 1: playoff gave you turned the ball over multiple times? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but one one you can manage two. Yeah, you may.
Speaker 1: You make it difficult, You make it very, very difficult.
Speaker 2: Because the first one, your defense bowled it back and
Speaker 2: the didn't cast you anything. You turned over. They got
Speaker 2: the points out of that. So you you you gave up,
Speaker 2: You gave up points.
Speaker 3: You gave up.
Speaker 2: Uh you allowed them to have an extra possession that
Speaker 2: they didn't deserve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn man.
Speaker 2: Well I deserve what they earned it because they took
Speaker 2: the ball away. Yeah, it's frustrating. I can just imagine
Speaker 2: the disappointment in that locker room because the Ravens, because
Speaker 2: think about oh Joe, they blew them out. They didn't
Speaker 2: just beat them by They didn't beat them by a
Speaker 2: touchdown or field goal.
Speaker 3: When they came to Baltimore, they blew them out. The
Speaker 3: game wasn't.
Speaker 1: Close at all.
Speaker 2: But when in the playoffs, you gotta take care of
Speaker 2: the football. Look at it the Rams. If the Rams
Speaker 2: don't have all them turnover, the Rams probably beat the Eagles.
Speaker 2: O Joe, we saw last night what happened last night.
Speaker 2: What did Detroit do? Turn the ball over?
Speaker 1: Turn the ball over?
Speaker 2: Ridiculous? People keep talking about Kansas City. Yeah, but Kansas
Speaker 2: City hadn't turned the ball over in eight games. Eight
Speaker 2: You win a lot of games if you don't give
Speaker 2: the ball away. Listen, I don't need to beat you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you beat your damnself by turning the
Speaker 2: ball over. That's what I'm do. I don't gotta do anything,
Speaker 2: o Yoe. I'm just gonna sit back here and watch
Speaker 2: you fumble it and throw it, turn interceptions. I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna sit back here and do my faing.
Speaker 3: Man. All I know is that I'm moving on. You
Speaker 3: ain't got to say, because you know, Joe, we grow
Speaker 3: it up. They beat us, We beat ourselves.
Speaker 2: Okay, well you weren't playing yourself.
Speaker 3: You know yourself advancing, right, We moving on.
Speaker 2: And I just know, I just I just know that
Speaker 2: I know the feeling in that locker room because I've
Speaker 2: been there. The Ravens believe they're the better team. They
Speaker 2: believe they should have beaten this team today. And they
Speaker 2: let it slip away. Yeah, they let it slip away.
Speaker 2: And this was this was supposed to be the year
Speaker 2: of their redemption because of what happened last year in
Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Ojo and I'm damn it if
Speaker 2: they didn't let another one slip away. Tik tik tik
Speaker 2: tic tic tic tic tic tic Tyler's chicken. Because these
Speaker 2: other teams are getting gonna get better too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the funny thing. Even with the other
Speaker 1: teams getting better, even even with other team getting better
Speaker 1: in the AFC, in the NFC, they will still not
Speaker 1: be another Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: It won't.
Speaker 1: So it always gives you that hope. It always gives
Speaker 1: you that chance in the back of your mind, even
Speaker 1: as a Raisin, even as a reason a Ravens fan.
Speaker 1: You know, for those that are you in the chat,
Speaker 1: that are watching, you're always going to be in contention
Speaker 1: because not only are other team getting better. You know,
Speaker 1: your owner, your GMS, your coaches have one job as well.
Speaker 1: Continue to put pieces around Lamar to make sure that
Speaker 1: you have a chance to to get back to this point,
Speaker 1: to get back to an AFC championship at one point,
Speaker 1: to be able to play in the Super Bowl, you know,
Speaker 1: and improve your team.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question, talk to me, how
Speaker 2: many times do you take the pretty girl lot and
Speaker 2: you don't get nothing before you stop three, Okay, because
Speaker 2: that's what I mean, that's the pretty girl. Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Is that I mean three time League MVP, an All Pro?
Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. Lamar Jackson is the first
Speaker 2: quarterback to be a three time first team, three time
Speaker 2: All Pro quarterback in his first seven He's the first.
Speaker 2: Think about all the quarterbacks Hayton, Tom Aaron Rodgers, John Elway,
Speaker 2: Damn Marino.
Speaker 3: Name a quarterback.
Speaker 2: None, it's done what Lamar Jackson has done.
Speaker 3: He's a three times first team All Pro quarterback in
Speaker 3: his first seven years.
Speaker 1: That's crazy when you think about it. That's just how
Speaker 1: dynamic is special young.
Speaker 2: Man young bred farre Name a quarterback, all your great quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: the wonders what Tom Brady. Tom Brady's only been a
Speaker 2: three time first team quarterback three times in twenty three seasons.
Speaker 2: Twenty two seasons. Have a long he's played. He's a
Speaker 2: three times. Lamar Jackson has done that three times in
Speaker 2: his first seven years. About to be a three time.
Speaker 2: He's about to have more MVPs in his first seven
Speaker 2: years than any quarterback.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, oh Joe.
Speaker 2: You know, it counts more in the playoffs, but that's
Speaker 2: what the regular sea and so the quarterbacks off anyway.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: No other players really, no other player gets judged off
Speaker 2: the playoff like the quarterback does because that's why. That's
Speaker 2: how he makes that's how he makes his money. That's
Speaker 2: how that's how he makes his name. If you want
Speaker 2: to be look, you could be great, but if you
Speaker 2: want to be iconic, the playoffs are where it's at.
Speaker 2: Koby Bird, Magic, Jordan Brawn, Iconic, Shock, Montana, Rice, my
Speaker 2: Homes Brady.
Speaker 1: If put conic will put you into another stratosphere and
Speaker 1: puts you into another conversation. The conversation is separate you
Speaker 1: from everybody else. Oh, there have been a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL players in the NFL. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks in the NFL. But you become iconic.
Speaker 3: And well, I think it's so o yo.
Speaker 2: Players coaches, general manager's front office over twenty five thousand, damn,
Speaker 2: twenty five thousand, twenty five thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now you talk about the Hall of Fame that I
Speaker 2: think it's less than four hundred. But when you talk
Speaker 2: about historic and iconic players, Labar Jackson has an opportunity
Speaker 2: that when you talk about the NFL, you cannot mention
Speaker 2: anything about the NFL and quarterbacks. What I say in
Speaker 2: L Jack's name. Yeah, that's what he has an opportunity
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: You know. You know it's funny. And even now, even
Speaker 1: at this point with no super Bowl, with no Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you can't talk about the story of the quarterbacks, about
Speaker 1: the entirety of the NFL without mentioning his name. Now,
Speaker 1: so imagine what happens when he gets over the hump
Speaker 1: because you can't story. You can't tell the story of
Speaker 1: quarterbacks based on what he's done once he wins his
Speaker 1: MVP without mentioning his name.
Speaker 3: But what now, you win a Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: When the braid is and the Montanas and the Mahomes
Speaker 2: having a discussion. LOI roma a which y'all guy's talking about?
Speaker 2: I'm at the table, o't choke? Yeah, I'm at the table. Yeah,
Speaker 2: damn man. Yes, he's special. All it takes is one.
Speaker 2: And I've said this, I believe if he can get one,
Speaker 2: and I hate using the caveat if, but if he
Speaker 2: can just get one, I believe the floodgates are open.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I believe the floodgates. So I believe the floodgates for
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson will open.
Speaker 3: And boy it's hard. I mean you think about it.
Speaker 2: Marino was twenty three, went to the Super Bowl, won
Speaker 2: the MVP and never been back.
Speaker 3: It took I mean John went, John went.
Speaker 2: I think John came in with twenty one, eighty three,
Speaker 2: eighty forty five, eighty six. He went to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl in eighty six with in eighty seven, went back
Speaker 2: at eighty nine and win it. John won the super
Speaker 2: Bowl in your fifteen and year sixteen, that Kelly number won,
Speaker 2: Moon number won. I mean, think about it. They were
Speaker 2: killing Steve Young. Steve Young was winning the MVPs just
Speaker 2: like Lamar. Yeah, it wasn't until he won that super Bowl.
Speaker 2: He got that bear off his back.
Speaker 1: Once you get that monkey off you, Hey, look at you, Red.
Speaker 1: You ever ran the four hundred, of course, you know
Speaker 1: what it's like when you come when you're coming off
Speaker 1: that that that that that nerve on that three hundred. Yeah, monkey,
Speaker 1: that monkey jump on your back coming down that street
Speaker 1: right away.
Speaker 2: Yep, all right, And that's and that's what it takes,
Speaker 2: all Lamar, That's what that's Steve Young.
Speaker 3: He had to get that. He had to get that
Speaker 3: one right, get that one. That's it.
Speaker 2: But Buffalo do what it needed to get, did what
Speaker 2: it needed to do, and they win twenty five twenty
Speaker 2: seven twenty five. Mark Can Drews had an opportunity to
Speaker 2: tie the game up, potentially, said the overtime, But there
Speaker 2: was gonna be a minute and thirty something seconds on
Speaker 2: the clock, so Buffalo could have gone down and got
Speaker 2: a field goal or touchdown.
Speaker 3: We'll never know. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: True, don't forget congratulations. Are any any Bills fans in
Speaker 1: the chats really congratulate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got great fans, O Joe. They got unbelievable fans.
Speaker 2: They get us, get a new stadium, state of the art.
Speaker 2: Couldn't happen to a I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 2: have you ever played in Buffalo?
Speaker 3: Of course I.
Speaker 1: Played against Eric moles Peelis Price, I played the ull,
Speaker 1: I played.
Speaker 3: Book all they got it out.
Speaker 2: Look, they got they got the basketball team, they got
Speaker 2: the Sabers, Sabers hockey. But bad those fans, they bad
Speaker 2: as bleed Bills. Yeah. Look, I've been a lot of places.
Speaker 2: I played in Denver, great fans everybody know the Broncos
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Oh my god, arrowhead, those fans dressed in
Speaker 2: already out there cooking out. The game starts at at
Speaker 2: what one? Uh what actually started noon because they're on
Speaker 2: Central Time. They're out there early Cleveland. Yeah, they just
Speaker 2: they ain't even come close to getting to the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl since the eighties.
Speaker 3: Well, uh and those fans. But Buffalo is different.
Speaker 1: Buffalo, Buffalo's fans are in the class of their own.
Speaker 1: Then the class of their own when it comes when
Speaker 1: it comes to not just enjoying the game, not just
Speaker 1: supporting your team. We talk about having fun and doing
Speaker 1: it right, doing it, doing it, doing it the right way,
Speaker 1: and making them most of your time.
Speaker 3: Buffalo best right to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Whoever they beat that quarterback, your charity go get an
Speaker 2: influx of money.
Speaker 1: But the organizations and fans, the fans themselves, when it
Speaker 1: comes to that and giving back even to opposing teams
Speaker 1: whatever whatever the cause may be, pure f and class.
Speaker 2: There are class. Congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. They move
Speaker 2: on to the AFC Championship Game to face the Kansas
Speaker 2: City Chiefs with a winner of the Ravens twenty seven
Speaker 2: twenty five on a failed two point conversion. But hey,
Speaker 2: it happens, Ravens, there's next year. But at some point
Speaker 2: in time, it's gonna be time up for next year.
Speaker 2: Next year is now. The Eagles defeated the Rams twenty
Speaker 2: eight to twenty two. Philadelphia advances to the NFC Championship
Speaker 2: Game for the second time in three years. They will
Speaker 2: host the Commanders next Sunday in an all NFC East clash.
Speaker 3: Saquon rush for two to whole five.
Speaker 2: Remember he had two fifty five the first game, just
Speaker 2: the second time this season he's exceeded two enty yards
Speaker 2: rush against the ra The majority of the yardist came
Speaker 2: on two carries. He had a seventy eight yarder. He
Speaker 2: had a sixty two yarder. Jalen Hurt suffered his knee
Speaker 2: injury in the second half, but was able to finish
Speaker 2: the game. Will show you and I talked last night,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna let Saquan beat me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if Jalen Hurst throw, If Jalen Hurst.
Speaker 2: Throws for an efficient two hundred and fifty yards three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: I walked to the middle of field a good luck
Speaker 2: next week, whoever y'all against the Commanders, Man you're having
Speaker 2: a player.
Speaker 3: That's what I do. I'm not gonna let sat Quan
Speaker 3: beat me, and I'll be damn it.
Speaker 2: They didn't let sat Quan beat them.
Speaker 1: You have to remember, right, we got late, we got
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, you got lane across the board the average
Speaker 1: as far as Wade Wade goes. But the Rams offensive
Speaker 1: defensive line is undersized. They're on the side. They tried.
Speaker 1: They had some moments where they were able to contain Saquon,
Speaker 1: but at some point, you keep chopping that wood. At
Speaker 1: some point it's gonna break. At some point it's going
Speaker 1: to crack. And that's exactly what happened due to them
Speaker 1: being so under size up front. Even even if you
Speaker 1: stacking nine in the box. You know, once they cut
Speaker 1: off the ball, they bullying them boys up front.
Speaker 5: They definitely did that. They bullied them up front. So
Speaker 5: and it takes so much press off Jaden. It takes
Speaker 5: so much press off Jaden hurt too. It takes so
Speaker 5: much pressure off because you don't have to do much
Speaker 5: because sat Quan is carrying the load. Same situation over
Speaker 5: there in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Put the ball in your bell cow's hands and let
Speaker 1: them take the game over for you.
Speaker 2: But but Philly never got away from that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. Ocho Baltimore got away from it for
Speaker 2: our quarter. Why and you look at some players they
Speaker 2: had the Uh sat Quan got stopped. But you let
Speaker 2: him get that hole and he stepped to the side
Speaker 2: pieced about.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is he taking them small
Speaker 1: steps when he's running and is faster than every damn body.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 3: Thing else he's quick. The thing else he has great balance.
Speaker 2: If you look at the cross over his step, like
Speaker 2: they give him the ball and he steps outside and
Speaker 2: when he sees a crease.
Speaker 1: He gone here and he hit it. He hit it,
Speaker 1: and he hit another gift.
Speaker 3: He stepped on it.
Speaker 2: Man, the first one that he he stepped on it
Speaker 2: gone is seventy eight yard old joe. He's like out
Speaker 2: of there. And that was just a joe. That wasn't
Speaker 2: a talk. That was just a head off off.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then he crosses over boom and he exploded.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: A pair of fumbles on back to back drive, said
Speaker 2: the rams A significantly. The Matthew Stafford had La in
Speaker 2: the red zone. I thought that La was gonna do
Speaker 2: it because cooking the court made a heck of a
Speaker 2: catch over Sleigh over Darius Slay with a chance.
Speaker 3: And then on fourth down.
Speaker 2: But oh, Joe, I'm looking at there was some miscommunication
Speaker 2: with the center and the right guard because going back
Speaker 2: to back places you turn Jalen Carter, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not going away from him. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: going away from him center.
Speaker 1: The center looked right and the guard slid to the right,
Speaker 1: and then he went to the left and then tried
Speaker 1: to come back, and by the time he came back,
Speaker 1: he was sacking Stafford.
Speaker 2: I'm like, young bro, why would you do? Listen, hey,
Speaker 2: y'all hand that over there. I got to worry about
Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, this is the one that I gotta work.
Speaker 2: He's the one and they did. He did it again
Speaker 2: on fourth down. I'm trying to figure out, Like, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm not listening on a defense, O Joe, if you
Speaker 2: got Reggie White, if you got Bruce, you got alt.
Speaker 2: I respect everybody on the Office of Life defensive line
Speaker 2: because you're in the league, but I'm not a It's like,
Speaker 2: it's like a d why would you do why would
Speaker 2: you slide?
Speaker 3: Why would you double someone else? Other than Aaron Donald.
Speaker 2: Why would you double someone else other than JJ Watt,
Speaker 2: Why that's Jalen Carter. And he's the most disrupted right now.
Speaker 2: And I said this if he ever got in shape,
Speaker 2: because I saw him in college, not his last year.
Speaker 2: Last year he was bulldiving, but when he hunger and motivated.
Speaker 2: And I think he's motivated now because he's got some
Speaker 2: He's an All Pro, he's a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: If in the next three years he's not a defensive
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, I ain't talking about a candidate.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the defensive player of the year where
Speaker 2: they tell it called his name, defensive Player of the
Speaker 2: Year is Jalen Carter. He should be disappointed. That's the
Speaker 2: caountability this young man had. He's explosive, he can play
Speaker 2: the run, he's disruptive, he can pressure your quarterback. He
Speaker 2: punched the ball out because he did a great a
Speaker 2: one hand on the and punched the ball out of
Speaker 2: Kyon Williams.
Speaker 5: Van.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, he has all the tools now he should be thinking. Man, hell,
Speaker 2: I'm thinking. I'm thinking Hall of Fame. I'm thinking that
Speaker 2: they need to start to getting me ready for the
Speaker 2: size of fifty two a fifty four jacket.
Speaker 3: He has that kind of ability.
Speaker 1: Does he does? He know it though? Now if he
Speaker 1: can channel all that and understand how great he is
Speaker 1: or how good he is, now it's all about him
Speaker 1: understanding what you can see watch it from home. We
Speaker 1: can see the greatness inding.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's special.
Speaker 1: He got to understanding and funnel all that energy into
Speaker 1: his craft. He be he can be one of the
Speaker 1: best to ever do it.
Speaker 2: Uh, he showed up. So he's so quick off the
Speaker 2: ball or joe for a man his size. Man his
Speaker 2: size ain't supposed to be that kind of explosive.
Speaker 1: Not this first step is not supposed to be that fast.
Speaker 3: And he's powerful out out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's weight room strong, lo how
Speaker 2: I don't know if he can bench five hundred pounds
Speaker 2: and squad all that, But I'm talking about football strength
Speaker 2: to take a man. I said, that's that's the way
Speaker 2: you could tell somebody. Can you move a man against
Speaker 2: his will?
Speaker 3: His will? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I knew you're gonna say that, can you move him
Speaker 2: against his will? When he said, man, I ain't going nowhere?
Speaker 2: Ll you say?
Speaker 1: I think about it? I got three defensive tackles. Right,
Speaker 1: We did three, three different, three defensive tackles that were
Speaker 1: not only weight room strong, but on the field it
Speaker 1: showed up as well. And then their their first step
Speaker 1: quick as hell. Now watching Jalen Carter, he's one that's
Speaker 1: that's been able to do it.
Speaker 3: Aaron Donald weight room strong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a technical savage yes, with a
Speaker 1: quick with a quick step. I got two more for
Speaker 1: you though. Who do you got Remember Big Sam Adams?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember I played with I played with him.
Speaker 1: Man, Big Sam had one of the one of the
Speaker 1: quickest first steps man to be that size, but also
Speaker 1: weight room Sean and the one that take the cake.
Speaker 1: The only man I've ever seen put forty fives on
Speaker 1: the bitch bar to where it's it's no room left
Speaker 1: or you can't put them on there with the quickest
Speaker 1: first step as well. That God damn Vince wolfolk Man.
Speaker 1: And then he up under the bench talking, holding the
Speaker 1: conversation and with all the place the bar bended. Wow,
Speaker 1: why ain't even straight no more? He got all the
Speaker 1: forty five on there. I don't even know how much
Speaker 1: it was having people in the chat. If you know,
Speaker 1: if you lip weights, you could tell me, please tell
Speaker 1: me how much? Where you have all the forty fives
Speaker 1: on the bitch bar where you can't you can't put
Speaker 1: them on there.
Speaker 3: He holding the conversation with me.
Speaker 1: We in the weight room and he talking to me
Speaker 1: and slow, I'm not talking about bringing it down and
Speaker 1: coming back up right away. I'm talking about slow. What
Speaker 1: the hell you peet?
Speaker 3: What? Watch him? You know obviously, UH watching Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I was disappointed in him because I
Speaker 2: thought he bull jobbed his last year.
Speaker 3: He know he's gonna be a top pick. Uh. The
Speaker 3: Eagles got a bargain. The Eagles should have never been
Speaker 3: able to get him at ten.
Speaker 2: But he had some he had some issues, he had
Speaker 2: some red flags, got a couple of you know, some
Speaker 2: trouble with the law and speeding and the situation that
Speaker 2: got himself into some trouble. But he's supposed to have
Speaker 2: been the number one overall pick. That's how good he is.
Speaker 2: That's how good he is. That's that's the accountability that
Speaker 2: he has and I and I think now he's starting
Speaker 2: to learn it. Hopefully Fletcher Fletcher Cox who was uh
Speaker 2: was there and retired. Hopefully he got an opportunity to
Speaker 2: talk to him, said, son, you can be Look, you
Speaker 2: got Reggie wife's potential. Everybody knows what Reggie the minister
Speaker 2: of the defense. Everybody know what Reggie was. Reggie brought
Speaker 2: it every game, every play, whether he was in Philly, Uh,
Speaker 2: he was in Green Bay. He retired, came back for
Speaker 2: his last year, played one year and in Caroline. People
Speaker 2: don't realize that Reggie play the year in Carolina because
Speaker 2: he you know, he had at that point in time,
Speaker 2: I think he had retired. Him and his wife Sarah
Speaker 2: had we gotta play, so Lake Norman Man, Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2: This Eagles team is gonna be a Everybody thought they
Speaker 2: was gonna be going to Detroit. There's like, no, we
Speaker 2: got the FC. We got the NFC championship game on
Speaker 2: our field, and we gotta tea. It's gonna be a
Speaker 2: great game. It's gonna be a great game because both
Speaker 2: games were close.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Both games were close, don't your Uh they won by
Speaker 2: eight on their field, and then Washington.
Speaker 3: Ended up winning.
Speaker 2: Uh in that last and sudden death wasn't overtime, but
Speaker 2: they end up winning on the last second when he
Speaker 2: threw that touchdown pass like four or five seconds.
Speaker 3: And the thing with Washington is because of their quarterback.
Speaker 2: Ohho, they believe they got a chance because look how
Speaker 2: many games that they won on the last possession, the
Speaker 2: last throw of the game. So we don't believe we're
Speaker 2: out of any game as long as we got that guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a good one.
Speaker 1: I wonder what, I wonder what the weather. I wonder
Speaker 1: what the weather's gonna be like. But you know in
Speaker 1: d C, d C, Yeah, DC and Justice called Philly
Speaker 1: just as cool.
Speaker 3: Uh, you'll get you, you probably get, you probably get.
Speaker 2: I mean it started the game, look at the feel
Speaker 2: how it looked like, oh, it's just gonna be cold,
Speaker 2: and next thing, you know, no, no, yeah, so it's
Speaker 2: it's probably gonna be that next week, same thing, oh joe.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Eagles fans showed up outside the Rams team hotel today
Speaker 2: and started trash talking the players this morning. This comes
Speaker 2: after l a's Jed Verse said last week that he
Speaker 2: hates Philly and all their fans. Jalen Carter approached Verse
Speaker 2: pre game order to put the championship game bonus on
Speaker 2: the line.
Speaker 1: Verse decline, Yeah, Urse might have burse might have talked
Speaker 1: this trash. But boy, well he showed up today.
Speaker 3: Well he's gonna be defensive rook of the year.
Speaker 1: He showed up to day. He verse showed up to
Speaker 1: day as much as much as that's that's listening as
Speaker 1: a team. The team didn't win, But when you talk
Speaker 1: trash like that before a game, mm hmm. He backed
Speaker 1: it all up. Oh yeah, he backed it all up
Speaker 1: with his play. He was all over the place. He
Speaker 1: was jaylen Hurst.
Speaker 2: Hell, hey, I like I like jay La Carter, Jayla Corsay,
Speaker 2: you call it, put your put your bonus, put your
Speaker 2: money up.
Speaker 3: I was your playing, no man, I was your playing
Speaker 3: on your bad Yeah.
Speaker 1: He anyway, you know, as a rookie, he's putting that
Speaker 1: money on the line.
Speaker 3: H yeah, no, boy, I mean, what did it get?
Speaker 3: Seventy seven grand? But when it when it today? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Everybody? You know what when you get to the playoffs, everybody, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Y'all, I don't like I don't like that. I'm taking
Speaker 2: the play cut because I know my check. I know
Speaker 2: my check looked like in the regular season, and y'all
Speaker 2: get me. It was first of all, it wasn't near
Speaker 2: this when I played, So you could just imagine what
Speaker 2: I went to that I was. I retired twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: O your soul, you could know the checks wasn't nowhere
Speaker 2: near this. Uh So, I definitely wouldn't have been with
Speaker 2: the bet. Oh I would have bet like Green Bay
Speaker 2: because they were talking that ish or. I definitely would
Speaker 2: have bet all them bumps. I definitely would have bet
Speaker 2: all them for sure. Uh man, it's gonna be. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a great game. It's gonna be. I don't
Speaker 2: know who had this. If you who had Washington and
Speaker 2: Philly on your Bengo card in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams had, but they.
Speaker 1: Might have had Philly. They might have had Philly in
Speaker 1: it exactly, but not Washington.
Speaker 2: No, everybody either had Kansas City. You had some combination
Speaker 2: Kansas City Buffalo, Kansas City, Baltimore, Baltimore Buffalo. That was
Speaker 2: the combination that you had in the AFC.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 2: So, I don't think anybody's surprised that we see Buffalo
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. I think there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: in shock other than people like you know, uh earthquake
Speaker 2: quake be ause a big Washington fan. You know, Uh,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people that are that are
Speaker 2: that are command of fans that grew that like, man, man,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of this losing somebody. I think somebody asked
Speaker 2: me today, man, if we got a chance. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got a chance as a football game, but I
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna putt no money on Washington, not against Detroit.
Speaker 1: I said the same I said the same thing when
Speaker 1: they asked me. I said, listen, Jayden, I say, Jaydon
Speaker 1: Dais just had a phenomenal season. But with the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions have been able to do all season. Outside of
Speaker 1: losing two games and having some games where Jered Goff
Speaker 1: turned the ball over, they were still able to come
Speaker 1: out with a win and be victorious. I don't see
Speaker 1: them being Detroit.
Speaker 3: I don't either.
Speaker 1: And then that was based off my eyes and what
Speaker 1: I saw correct, even though Jaydon Dames was playing phenomenal football,
Speaker 1: and boy did he prove me wrong.
Speaker 2: Well, hell, when you turn the ball over four or
Speaker 2: five times, what do you expect and you gave him
Speaker 2: a touchdown?
Speaker 3: You let him score points on their on your possession
Speaker 3: pick six?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: Then you took points off the board because you you
Speaker 2: you you were late with uh Williams on the post
Speaker 2: route and you allowed you allowed?
Speaker 1: Uh undercut it?
Speaker 2: Yes, and then they run they run a pass then
Speaker 2: let James up. Why would y'all throw he throwing the ball? Oh,
Speaker 2: Joe covering the out, he's gonna throw it.
Speaker 1: Hold on, now you know better than that. Now, listen,
Speaker 1: I can attest. When we're running in practice, they let
Speaker 1: you know if it's one on one, you give you
Speaker 1: a play either tucked the ball and run or throw
Speaker 1: then we live to see another down.
Speaker 2: Joe, we told him, if he not wide open, don't
Speaker 2: you throw that ball. I'm oh, Joe, I'm saying wide
Speaker 2: open open? Yeah, clear. If he's not wide open, don't
Speaker 2: you throw it? Tick, tuck it and run or let
Speaker 2: somebody get a souvenir.
Speaker 3: Right. Oh, but you can't turn what? Uh? Uh?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Golf had? What four turnovers they had? I think they
Speaker 2: had five total?
Speaker 3: Who you beaten?
Speaker 1: Nobody? You ain't beat Listen, You ain't being the Sisters
Speaker 1: of the North. If they had a damn flag team.
Speaker 2: No, no, no. But it's gonna be a great game.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a hopefully it's a great game.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jane Daniels had a phenomenal season. I mean, I can't
Speaker 2: even imagine to see a rookie in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Hold on, not not in the super Bowl, MAYU. You're
Speaker 1: playing in New Orleans. You know what New Orleans is, right?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, this is what hour from back to back
Speaker 3: on rouge.
Speaker 1: Not only is it hour you just came from UNSS
Speaker 1: you think about think about the story in the North
Speaker 1: yeah from unless you back in New Orleans.
Speaker 3: You're in a dome.
Speaker 1: So we already know how he plays when the weather's clear.
Speaker 1: If I just say, I'm just hypothetically speaking, people were
Speaker 1: to make it my goodness, it's.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how good this young man is. And everybody
Speaker 2: talking about the Bear should have traded. Know, if he's
Speaker 2: in the Bears, he's not doing what he's doing because
Speaker 2: guess what, Cliff Kingsbury isn't there there. Yeah, Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 2: isn't there. Y'all think he's doing this without Kingsbury. Kingsbury
Speaker 2: has a relationship if you go back to look at it.
Speaker 2: Murray one rookie of the year his ability to resonate
Speaker 2: with quarterbacks. He was calling plays for Johnny Manziel when
Speaker 2: Johnny went to Heisman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go back.
Speaker 2: And look at his work with quarterbacks. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I think he was the head coach of Mahomes.
Speaker 2: Was he the head coach of Mahomes when Mahomes that
Speaker 2: Texas Tech is Tech? I'm almost certain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: With Mahons threw for over almost eight hundred yards on
Speaker 2: Yo in a game. So guys, Scott, it's easy to
Speaker 2: say he should be well, the Bear should have trade.
Speaker 2: Y'all actually think Jane Daniel was gonna do that without Kingsbury.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, it's easy to say that, Yeah, trade,
Speaker 2: but you gotta trade all the other intangibles that go
Speaker 2: along with it. If Quinn gonna be there, if Cliff
Speaker 2: Kingsbury gonna be there, y'all believe he's doing that whatever
Speaker 2: he re flus and that and that.
Speaker 3: Our physicive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Absolutely there's no creativity. The volume