Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hello everybody, we are
Speaker 1: back with a new episode. I'm here with my bestie
Speaker 1: Tori Spelling. Hi. Hi, And there's Sissony looking beautiful as usual,
Speaker 1: your honorary bestie. Yes, I know, we have to come
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Speaker 1: This is the new Hollywood trouble. We we had um
Speaker 1: New Year's and that went well, and now we're all
Speaker 1: settled into January. Do you guys your vaccines yet? That's
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Speaker 1: So I hope everybody's staying safe because it's a lot
Speaker 1: right now. But it's gonna get better. It's gonna get better.
Speaker 1: It's on its way to getting better, for sure. So
Speaker 1: let us entertain you for Yeah, This episode was called
Speaker 1: seventeen year Itch and it originally aired on November twenty
Speaker 1: nine nine. So typically they say, like, in a marriage relationship,
Speaker 1: you have the seven year itch, right, it's seven. But
Speaker 1: because coming up on Cindy, they're married seventeen years and
Speaker 1: she's having a little itch with another man, seventeen year clever,
Speaker 1: clever was more than a niche. It was more than
Speaker 1: a niche. That was like a big old scratch. This
Speaker 1: episode starts out so dramatic. Did anybody else like I
Speaker 1: felt like comes Jim's coming in hot with his hairy
Speaker 1: chest out and already seen one. It just didn't even
Speaker 1: give us a chance, and and it made his chest
Speaker 1: made an appearance a few times during the episode. I
Speaker 1: noticed that was my question for you guys, like were
Speaker 1: the producers obsessed with his hairiness? Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: poor James eck House, Like he's never gonna come to
Speaker 1: our podcast. We talked about his harry back, but he
Speaker 1: wears his pajamas to be unbuttoned. Has anybody yet done
Speaker 1: where you pajamas unbuttoned? Usually a button them up, keep
Speaker 1: the hairs in. I didn't notice that. I don't think
Speaker 1: I was looking there into I was so distracted by
Speaker 1: all of his movements because it was just there and so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't notice that he was taking off. I thought
Speaker 1: I was gonna take office shure. But he didn't. He
Speaker 1: just unbuttoned it and gone to bed. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: was just not having it. He wanted to get freaky. Ah.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to have any meaningful discussion. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a man. He yeah, he just She was like,
Speaker 1: I want to have intimacy. He's like, listen, And then
Speaker 1: later he was like, listen, it's hard to bring home
Speaker 1: the bacon. Well, I don't know that the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a little uncomfortable. I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: his name was Hank first of all, but his name
Speaker 1: is Glenn, Glenn, the guy Glenn. Yeah, where'd you get hand?
Speaker 1: I wrote down Hank. But he first time we see him,
Speaker 1: he's hiding in the bushes in at the nursery, Uh,
Speaker 1: taking photographs of what. I wonder before? Did he follow
Speaker 1: Cindy there to take pictures of her? Now he said
Speaker 1: that his friend owns the nursery or something, and his
Speaker 1: friend lets him come and take pictures. If it was
Speaker 1: a Lifetime movie, he would have turned out to be
Speaker 1: the killer, the killer Death. Oh yeah, killer. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a little creepy right there. He's a little sexy though,
Speaker 1: creepy sex yeah. I thought he was another HFD right layer.
Speaker 1: Being celebrities that you are, does it creep you out
Speaker 1: when paparazzi takes your pictures? Creep us out? I don't
Speaker 1: know creeps the right word. It's just like it's like,
Speaker 1: you deal with it. It's annoying, you love it, you
Speaker 1: hate it. I feel like there's a time for it
Speaker 1: where it's fine, and then there's times when it's really invasive,
Speaker 1: and there's times when it's just really pisses you off.
Speaker 1: Do you remember, like, was it a year or two
Speaker 1: ago that we both had an epiphany that we were
Speaker 1: going through the same thing, but we had never spoken
Speaker 1: into anyone about it, that we have like PTSD from it,
Speaker 1: and people think we're crazy though, but it's actually true.
Speaker 1: Like we'll be out at lunch and not during COVID
Speaker 1: before things were closing down and we could go out
Speaker 1: and be social. You'd be at lunch or dinner and
Speaker 1: you hear like, and you'd hear that what and whoever
Speaker 1: you're with, it's like, what do you there's nothing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're crazy. What do you think you're yeah? You oh,
Speaker 1: you think they're just following you or just hearing things.
Speaker 1: It's leaves or something. But we discussed because we've had
Speaker 1: the same experience. The nine out of ten times it's real,
Speaker 1: it's a shooter. Bushes. Yeah, yeah, the bushes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that sound of the of the clicking of your
Speaker 1: It was really thirty years we've heard it. It's just
Speaker 1: so fascinating to me that somebody can take a picture
Speaker 1: of you and it's their property. I just don't understand that. Wait,
Speaker 1: can we tell this store. I just I love this
Speaker 1: story of when you were working out that paparazzi because
Speaker 1: you were so you were vindicated then that story. I'm
Speaker 1: just yeah, okay, sure. I was working out at my
Speaker 1: at the gym where I work out, and I was outside,
Speaker 1: and um, see the perhaps usually drive prius. Is I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but all the ones that
Speaker 1: follow me seemed to drive Priuses with their windows blacked out.
Speaker 1: Fact yeah not alone. Um So every time I see
Speaker 1: a Prius, I kind of get that feeling like uneasy,
Speaker 1: feeling like I'm being watched. Yeah, um, this day. He
Speaker 1: was parked outside of the gym, and I had a
Speaker 1: feeling and I his his windows were blacked out, and
Speaker 1: I walked up to the car and I literally put
Speaker 1: my hands up to the glass to see in there,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't see anything, but I could see a
Speaker 1: shadow move like I knew something was in there, and uh,
Speaker 1: he was in there. He was in there, hiding in
Speaker 1: the back seat like a coward. And um, I opened
Speaker 1: the door and we had some We we talked, We
Speaker 1: talked it out. What was discussed. Oh my gosh. We'd
Speaker 1: say how you were like delete those photos, like because
Speaker 1: it's not fair. There's a time and a place. But
Speaker 1: she was working out, like yeah, have makeup on, she
Speaker 1: was doing her thing, and they do. The fact is
Speaker 1: they want to get the worst photo of you because
Speaker 1: that's what sells great. You know, in the red carpet.
Speaker 1: Those are like different types of photos there there you
Speaker 1: know where to look. Everyone looks posed and pretty, but
Speaker 1: when they're kind of lack of a better word, stocky,
Speaker 1: you like in real life, they want to get that
Speaker 1: photo where you're like moving the wrong way and her
Speaker 1: mouth's open. You just look terrible. And so that's I'm
Speaker 1: sure what he wanted to do, but she stopped him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just said I'm gonna need that card. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need that card right there out of your camera. And
Speaker 1: he's like, oh no, I can't, I can't give you that.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, you can, and you're going to. And
Speaker 1: then my trainer, who is a big muscle man, was
Speaker 1: standing behind me and he kind of like decided maybe
Speaker 1: he should give me the card and he tried to
Speaker 1: take it out and I was like, just show me
Speaker 1: how to delete it. So I took his camera and
Speaker 1: I actually delete all the pictures. Didn't he like question why,
Speaker 1: like why do you care? And oh my work? He
Speaker 1: was like you you guys want this or you asked
Speaker 1: for this? Yes, he said. He said something like this
Speaker 1: is what you want, isn't it? I was what, this
Speaker 1: is what I want? This is not what I want.
Speaker 1: Are you chose to do this? Yeah? He made that
Speaker 1: a lot. You chose to be an actor. It's like,
Speaker 1: I chose to be an actor, not to have you
Speaker 1: take her affect photos of me and sell them. And
Speaker 1: didn't you say about your livelihood? Yeah, Herod. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he said to get me to say something,
Speaker 1: but he was like, that's when he went to delete
Speaker 1: the pictures at first, Yeah, and I said, this is
Speaker 1: He goes it's just some pictures, no big deal, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, it is a big deal. This
Speaker 1: is my livelihood. This is how I feed my kids, Like,
Speaker 1: don't take pictures of me and sell them that you
Speaker 1: know are unflattering, Like that's what you want. That's what
Speaker 1: you want right now is for me to look bad,
Speaker 1: and that's not good for me. And so I think
Speaker 1: he got it. I was so proud of her because
Speaker 1: I've wanted to do that a gazillion times, it was
Speaker 1: too scared to do it. So she kind of stepped
Speaker 1: up for all of us to feel that way and
Speaker 1: did that in that moment. But yeah, it's we do.
Speaker 1: We have that feeling. And people, if you're not in
Speaker 1: the situation, you don't understand it and you're like, gosh,
Speaker 1: what's the problem. Like have you ever been in a
Speaker 1: restaurant and been like talking about something In all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're like and you just like look behind
Speaker 1: you and you know the people are like or they
Speaker 1: have like their camera up and you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: what did I just say? Like I will just like
Speaker 1: I'll be going about my business of life and like
Speaker 1: whatever I'm doing, going to the grocery store, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: and halfway into it, I'll be like, oh shoot, I
Speaker 1: forgot to worry about how I look right now, or
Speaker 1: like what I'm doing is what I'm doing going to photograph? Well,
Speaker 1: because I don't think about it like I live my
Speaker 1: life like a normal person. I go about my business
Speaker 1: just like all y'all do. And then there comes that
Speaker 1: moment where you think, wait, they got some bad pictures
Speaker 1: because I wasn't. I wasn't thinking about it right there,
Speaker 1: and like she caught She caught him that time. But
Speaker 1: there's been a gazillion other instances that we both have
Speaker 1: talked about and been through where you're like I think,
Speaker 1: I think, and then you don't trust your instinct and
Speaker 1: then the next week you see the photos and you're like,
Speaker 1: I who someone was? Like you know what the weird
Speaker 1: part is, whenever they get those photos out there, there's
Speaker 1: there's one of the photos that always looks like you're
Speaker 1: looking right at tight at you noticed that, Jenny always right,
Speaker 1: but we didn't see that's the one. Didn't I always
Speaker 1: see these guys, But those ones where you don't know
Speaker 1: that they're there. It looks like you're looking into the
Speaker 1: camera because instinctively you're like something wrong and you're looking
Speaker 1: in that direction and you're like, someone else is telling
Speaker 1: me I'm crazy, it's not happening. But it's like, yeah, sorry.
Speaker 1: We get fired up about assist because it's like a
Speaker 1: thing and we didn't realize it had been happening for
Speaker 1: thirty years and we hadn't discussed that. And when we
Speaker 1: discussed it, we were both like, yeah, I know that sound.
Speaker 1: That's that's the sound of the shutter gives me like
Speaker 1: hypertension immediately. Yeah, I'm feeling it right now. I'm so anxious.
Speaker 1: I'na have to take a sip of wine. Yeah, drink
Speaker 1: your wine. Let's get back to the episode. Um, we
Speaker 1: got a little side. I didn't know that was good.
Speaker 1: It's quite the core you triggered us. So Glenn is
Speaker 1: not a paparazzo. He's just a weird guy in the bushes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sexy, but sexy. Yeah, he was tall and handsome.
Speaker 1: I can see why why Cindy would have the just
Speaker 1: being alone all day and her husband's working all the time.
Speaker 1: It's right, he's working hard bringing him the bacon. I
Speaker 1: was confused because, um, her, what's the woman who's who's
Speaker 1: with her in that scene? Um, what's her character? Maria
Speaker 1: orders her assistant assistant, which I was like, okay, But
Speaker 1: she in the episode, like two episodes before that, she
Speaker 1: didn't know how to speak English, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, she was like fluent in English. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Cindy's a really good teacher. Yeah, maybe. So the whole
Speaker 1: Cindy at the at the nursery running into the photographer
Speaker 1: guy was the big setup for what becomes her seventeen
Speaker 1: year inch apparently so, and she brings them back to
Speaker 1: the house. Jim's there, so it seems legit, right, But
Speaker 1: her body language on the couch in saying otherwise, yeah right,
Speaker 1: they are just a little too close on the couch, right,
Speaker 1: and staying up late three am? Hello, who stays up
Speaker 1: till three am? No one unless you want to have
Speaker 1: an affair. But seriously, her body language like and her
Speaker 1: voice like, the way she talks to him the whole
Speaker 1: time is just different. And Jim sees it, and then
Speaker 1: he leaves them down there to have there whatever, and
Speaker 1: then he he wakes up and she's gone, and he
Speaker 1: goes downstairs. He looks so cute, little hair all ruffled up. Um,
Speaker 1: but he goes and he just like watches them from
Speaker 1: the stairs, and I, oh, I just wanted him to
Speaker 1: man up, go down there and punch that guy something like,
Speaker 1: go do something. You just explain the difference between you
Speaker 1: and me like you described that. And if we were
Speaker 1: both in that situation, like I would have been like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: poor me and gone back upstairs like Jim did, and
Speaker 1: you would have been like, what, like, bitch, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? My man? Oh? Yeah, I'm a little nicety sometimes. No,
Speaker 1: she's not. She No, you're confrontational, like in a good way,
Speaker 1: like you speak your mind. I don't like to taking
Speaker 1: advantage of you know, you want to be taken a
Speaker 1: much much stronger than you used to be. I would
Speaker 1: definitely know that, Like, thank God for you. It's not
Speaker 1: you have you have helped, but you've helped the process
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yes, maybe just examples. So the kids
Speaker 1: started noticing it, Brandon and Brenda, especially Brenda. Brenda's very
Speaker 1: feisty about it. Brandon as I felt like, didn't care,
Speaker 1: She's like and Brenda was like on high alert you guys,
Speaker 1: do you Okay, here are my feelings. I feel like
Speaker 1: Brenda once again was like I wish he was flirting
Speaker 1: with men. She's obsessed with older men, like seriously obsessed.
Speaker 1: I'm convinced that Brenda Walsh today would be married to
Speaker 1: someone who's like and there's seventies hopefully rich, god bless.
Speaker 1: But um, I felt like Glenn was a little bit
Speaker 1: brandon esque. He had like the tousled, wavy long hair,
Speaker 1: the tie like when Brandon was putting on his tie
Speaker 1: to go to the art gallery, or the showing like
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, and then Glenn has that look?
Speaker 1: Am I wrong? Okay, sorry, wrong, but I didn't see that.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that vibe. But okay, I love that
Speaker 1: you always throw us off the breaking rail. Tory, What
Speaker 1: did you guys think of the male twins? I want
Speaker 1: to know what. Yeah, I want to know where they are.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the twins, Dudy and all of that.
Speaker 1: We have to take a break back. Yeah, okay, we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back, and we want to talk about twins. Sis,
Speaker 1: you have twins, Well, I'm only a two year expert,
Speaker 1: um three if you count them being in my womb. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's it's so crazy because I have the same
Speaker 1: I have fraternal twins, a boy and girl, just like
Speaker 1: Brenda and Brandon. Do you guys think that, like I
Speaker 1: manifested this from like my childhood, from watching so much
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. No, imagine, did you think for one second
Speaker 1: that maybe you should name them Brenda and Brandon? For
Speaker 1: one second? It did cross my mind. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie for one second. Um, but yeah, the whole college
Speaker 1: study on fraternal twins and identical twins that they were
Speaker 1: doing in this episode was just really funny to me.
Speaker 1: I was just like, does this stuff happen? I guess
Speaker 1: it does in real life? Opening it with the close
Speaker 1: up of the two grown man twins, which freaked me
Speaker 1: out there lots. It made me grateful would have fraternal twins.
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't need two of the same.
Speaker 1: That's like crazy. What was the moment like when you
Speaker 1: were told there were two babies in your belly? Um?
Speaker 1: It was it was crazy. I mean, not to get
Speaker 1: too into it, but I got pregnant the first time
Speaker 1: and I miscarried um, and so that was my first
Speaker 1: experience with pregnancy anything and so we were trying for
Speaker 1: almost a year to conceive again naturally, like no fertility drugs,
Speaker 1: no IVF, nothing, And so when I found out I
Speaker 1: was pregnant with them, or after found I was pregnant,
Speaker 1: I just thought one baby, obviously, but I'm just on edge.
Speaker 1: I'm so scared that I'm going to miscarry again. So
Speaker 1: for them to tell me that it was twins, it
Speaker 1: just blew my mind and I just couldn't believe it,
Speaker 1: and it made me that much more scared because I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, you hear all these stories like sometimes
Speaker 1: one doesn't make it this and that, and so you're
Speaker 1: like excited, but you're like automatically a high risk pregnancy
Speaker 1: like instantly, and so that's just it's just a scarier
Speaker 1: I don't know, wait I would. I couldn't be like
Speaker 1: super like glowy until the second trimester. Like I was
Speaker 1: just like so scared the entire time. I get like
Speaker 1: emotional talking about it. But um, you didn't and they're healthy.
Speaker 1: You went through all of that and then they handed
Speaker 1: you two babies, a little Blend and a little Brandon,
Speaker 1: little Brenda and Brandon right there. But yeah, I I
Speaker 1: really resonate with these the storyline of them being twins,
Speaker 1: because one of our producers, Amy was just saying, I
Speaker 1: forget that they're twins, and like, for me, as a
Speaker 1: twin mom momst like I don't. I literally like watch
Speaker 1: them like hawks, like see their bannerisms in the show,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if, like what they're what my kids
Speaker 1: relationship will be like when they're in high school, Like
Speaker 1: will they be best friends? Will they have each other's back?
Speaker 1: All that stuff. I feel like when you meet twins
Speaker 1: as adults, like you always I always ask, at least
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, do you finish each other? Sentence is
Speaker 1: do you know what the other ones thinking? And sometimes
Speaker 1: it's yes, sometimes it's now. I feel like Brenda and
Speaker 1: Brandon not like that at all. No, they just they're opposite,
Speaker 1: but they still care. I feel like he cares more
Speaker 1: about her than she cares about him. Really, I kind
Speaker 1: of get that vibe sometimes because she's a teenage girl
Speaker 1: and she's like all about herself. I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like girls are into drama, like boys are just like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: So the professor at the college when they go to
Speaker 1: the college to do this study, she ends up being
Speaker 1: your guys principal right, am I crazy. Mrs T. That's
Speaker 1: Mrs T. But it was a different name. She had
Speaker 1: a different name. She was a different care Harriet car.
Speaker 1: When she walked in, I was like, oh, introduced, by
Speaker 1: the way, we never called her Mrs T. Like Mr T,
Speaker 1: like the a team, Like is that something you called
Speaker 1: her because in the show, really I like that. I
Speaker 1: love that, Like but so I was like, oh, Mrs
Speaker 1: teas Leaves being into our principle is being introduced so
Speaker 1: early on. And then she's like, my name is Harriet something.
Speaker 1: Her real name is Denise, Denise Douse and she was that.
Speaker 1: That was her first role on the show. But apparently
Speaker 1: she was on the show another time as another different character.
Speaker 1: Three times, yes, and then she became the principal. They
Speaker 1: really liked her and they thought her very talented. They
Speaker 1: were like, she's great, Like we loved working with her.
Speaker 1: I always she's great. So she's the principal during the
Speaker 1: whole Donna Martin graduate that that's a whole area, the
Speaker 1: whole are I had my first stuff which will come
Speaker 1: up later, like when I had a learning disability and
Speaker 1: I had to talk to her like that was my
Speaker 1: one of my first big scenes so I always felt
Speaker 1: super connected to her, and then of course Donna Martin graduates.
Speaker 1: But she was great. We loved working with her. We
Speaker 1: should have her on the show someday, I love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should Denise Dause. I would like her to tell
Speaker 1: us what Luke whispered in her ears. I'm sure something
Speaker 1: never know, never know. I was just really wrapped up
Speaker 1: in the in the Cindy storyline. I couldn't because because
Speaker 1: the Cindy the affair storyline was kind of like the
Speaker 1: A storyline, and then the twins thing was more of
Speaker 1: the storyline, and then there was the DJ auditions. Then
Speaker 1: there was that which which is shocking you guys, because
Speaker 1: the parents never got the A storyline. Isn't it interesting?
Speaker 1: Like this episode? Watching it now as an adult, same,
Speaker 1: I was fascinated with the Cindy storyline, But it's because
Speaker 1: that's our age now, like, so it was a whole different.
Speaker 1: I'm sure when we were young, like our friends watched
Speaker 1: that episode and they were like, get to the kids.
Speaker 1: Seeing Donna audition as the DJ for the high school
Speaker 1: was the high light of this episode for me. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that little rap? Can you do it for us? No?
Speaker 1: Hell no? But it was so bad, like really honest,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be bad, wasn't it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess so. But it's just like I thought it would
Speaker 1: be cute, Like when we first decided to do a podcast.
Speaker 1: I remember Darren Martin, our biggest fan, sent it to
Speaker 1: me and he was like, it was a premonition. It
Speaker 1: was always meant to be. Like you and JENNI are
Speaker 1: hosting a podcast. Remember when you tried out to be
Speaker 1: the DJ and he sent it. I was super excited
Speaker 1: and I really listened to it, and I was like Donna,
Speaker 1: not Madonna, Like oh my god, oh good. It's like
Speaker 1: the laugh that we all needed in the episode because
Speaker 1: everything was so serious with Cindy and Glenn, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden cut to that. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh yikes, yeah, yeah, And I didn't get I didn't
Speaker 1: get the job. You didn't, and neither did Steve, which
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching him the freeze and not be able
Speaker 1: to deliver was good syndrome down the road. In new episodes,
Speaker 1: you end up helping David out. I feel in the
Speaker 1: radio station, come on and like to be his whole
Speaker 1: partner and crime sidekick. High voice, like, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: that voice that pretty bested voices was so cute and
Speaker 1: I don't eat. My name is Dave, and I don't
Speaker 1: even shave, like whenever he said, oh my god, and
Speaker 1: then from the from THEE crushing on for he's the
Speaker 1: DJ at the school. He's the voice of the voiceover.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Who was the first guy? Like? Who was that?
Speaker 1: There was two there? Apparently there was a there was
Speaker 1: the DJ in the pilot, and then when we came
Speaker 1: back for series, there was another guy who was the
Speaker 1: DJ guy. And then no, it's David. And as a freshman,
Speaker 1: big accomplishment. That's huge for a freshman, right huge? Wait? Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so I remember when he was doing that and his
Speaker 1: friend what's his Doug? Mhm? Is that? What was is
Speaker 1: that his name? The character's name of David, and he
Speaker 1: played oh my god, blinking Scott Scot Scott. I thought
Speaker 1: his name was Scott Scott. It was not Scott sand
Speaker 1: Scott Scaling. Okay, you're thinking of toilet paper, just kidding,
Speaker 1: I thought he was. He cracked me up though, with
Speaker 1: his like don't wait, what are you gonna do? It
Speaker 1: was funny to me. He made me laugh. He is adorable.
Speaker 1: His little face was a little hyebrows, so cute. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I was back to the the affair. Let's talk about that,
Speaker 1: because let's talk about the fair. I well, when they
Speaker 1: have like the what is it an ext a bit
Speaker 1: or opening night and then everybody goes to support this guy, Kelly, yep,
Speaker 1: Kelly and Donna go there we were I remember that.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that scene? Like, as soon as I
Speaker 1: watched it again, I was like, I was like right
Speaker 1: back into filming that day. I remember us filming that
Speaker 1: day and like walking through all that wasn't a real place.
Speaker 1: It was a setup, like on a set. But we
Speaker 1: really brought the fashion though. I just want to say,
Speaker 1: we really live in that join up if we did there.
Speaker 1: I do want to discuss your guys dresses. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Donna's dress. It was like a gold bra on
Speaker 1: top of a sheer black long sleeve. Yeah, you had
Speaker 1: like studs on your boobies. It's very Madonna s vibe
Speaker 1: for sure. I feel like it was Prima Donna, so whatever, yeah,
Speaker 1: Prima Donna. But yeah, it was very it was very
Speaker 1: material girl, which was in the eighties, so I guess
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, I was with you though, I thought
Speaker 1: it was the nineties. Um, and then Kelly's dress is
Speaker 1: like gold chains of some kind. But I was distracted
Speaker 1: by your hair. What was that? What was the intention
Speaker 1: behind that? Do? I don't know? Bird inspired? It reminds
Speaker 1: me of my wedding hair due for my second wedding.
Speaker 1: Remember that tour? Yeah, the one I told you not
Speaker 1: to do? What what? It was like that just like
Speaker 1: like spiky up on top a lot of pennings flying
Speaker 1: out of the top of my head. But by the way, again,
Speaker 1: you started a trend like that took off and everyone
Speaker 1: wore their hair like that for so long they did.
Speaker 1: Maybe I was very in including yourself. It was mesmerizing though.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that guy was a slieback. He was really
Speaker 1: trying to get with a married woman right in there.
Speaker 1: He like ate her face, that was a juicy kiss.
Speaker 1: Was actually couldn't breathe. I liked when they were walking
Speaker 1: over that bridge and he's like, do you ever play
Speaker 1: what If? Oh? Sorry, I'm going back, but I really
Speaker 1: like that part. What if you hadn't met Jim? I
Speaker 1: like playing what if? Let's play what if you kick
Speaker 1: it off? Okay, Jen? What if you never met me.
Speaker 1: What if I never met you? Life would be incomplete? No, sorry,
Speaker 1: this podcast would not exist. Let's do a juicy what if?
Speaker 1: How do we do a juicy what if? Oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm not good at this. I don't know how to
Speaker 1: play what if? That sounds dangerous. So his what if question,
Speaker 1: I know this is not Beverly Hills, reminded me a
Speaker 1: bit of our season finale for b H two where
Speaker 1: Brian and Tory have a moment and he's like, do
Speaker 1: you ever wonder what if? Oh? Yeah, and she's like
Speaker 1: yeah every single day, Like I'm sorry. That reminded me, Sorry,
Speaker 1: Brenda good, Uh sorry, it reminded me of that like
Speaker 1: moment that was scripted that felt like the Glen and
Speaker 1: Cindy thing. I love the montage with them in his
Speaker 1: little car all around town. They had such a good time.
Speaker 1: I know she's wrong, and she's like, you know, it
Speaker 1: must be nice. What what do you say? It must
Speaker 1: be nice having people waiting for you, And she's like,
Speaker 1: it's nice. She was having a moment where she was
Speaker 1: like what if. I don't think I could ever try
Speaker 1: to get as involved as Brenda wanted to be in
Speaker 1: the whole affair. Situation, like following them around and all that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I would react if I knew
Speaker 1: that one of my parents are in an affair. I
Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, I would be like that too. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I can remember a time when my mom and dad
Speaker 1: were separated and I was about that age, maybe fourteen
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, and I can remember, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: was never really like it's a little fighter talked about,
Speaker 1: but I think my mom like was kind of separated
Speaker 1: and sort of feeling out, like what that would be like.
Speaker 1: And I remember I don't remember their faces or their names,
Speaker 1: but I remember her bringing a guy around her friend,
Speaker 1: you know. And I have never been meaner to a
Speaker 1: person in my life. So I can totally relate to
Speaker 1: Brenda because it's like you're you just get so like
Speaker 1: your hair stands up, but you know, and territorial, Yeah, territorial,
Speaker 1: because that's you want your mom and dad to be
Speaker 1: together no matter what. So I could totally relate to
Speaker 1: to Brenda. Your smighty senses, kids have smighty senses. I
Speaker 1: felt really bad though, when they when Brendan Brandon made
Speaker 1: I'm a Beautiful anniversary dinner. They've didn't have the spark
Speaker 1: and they and Jim just left, just like Brandon, he
Speaker 1: gets all fired up and just walks away. Ah coward.
Speaker 1: You know what. It was hard rewatching it, Like like
Speaker 1: rewatching it, we know the characters, we know the actors,
Speaker 1: so we played more into it. But this was the
Speaker 1: first season and the parents really hadn't played a pivotal role.
Speaker 1: So to me, it fellow a little out of nowhere
Speaker 1: that suddenly like Jim's like, I'm not going to make
Speaker 1: it well and he was kind of like to her
Speaker 1: and she's like, let me guess. Like before that, I
Speaker 1: didn't really see that. So it was like, gosh, this
Speaker 1: happened really quick, you know, So yeah, and I want
Speaker 1: I wasn't like I wasn't like a big Jim fan
Speaker 1: all like you, It took your time to really like
Speaker 1: loved that character, the dad and Jim and and then
Speaker 1: but this happened and you were like, I think he's
Speaker 1: a dick, Like eight episode, what do you think the
Speaker 1: thought process was to do that like so early on
Speaker 1: in Twitch? I don't know. I think it was too
Speaker 1: soon because I feel like people weren't exactly rooting for Jim.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh, is this cube photographer, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he wasn't being very nice to his wife, so
Speaker 1: she wasn't fulfilled. Yeah. I feel like there's so many
Speaker 1: other storylines between the kids that could have been developed,
Speaker 1: or doesn't one of them say I had a we
Speaker 1: had a mental affair, not a physical, which I think
Speaker 1: is worse sometimes like an emotional affairs. Oh that hurts
Speaker 1: so much worse, And that kind of mean. I don't
Speaker 1: mean they both suck, but I mean they did have
Speaker 1: a physical affair kind of because I kissed. Does she
Speaker 1: tell Jim about the kiss? She was ready to, but
Speaker 1: he kind of was like, I don't care. I do
Speaker 1: you love me? And she said, yes, I do, and
Speaker 1: then they just ran off on their reunion trip. So
Speaker 1: do you think he could have somewhere deep down been
Speaker 1: like maybe she had sex with this guy? Like he
Speaker 1: doesn't know, he doesn't want to know. Yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to know. As Cindy, I would want him to
Speaker 1: know that we did not have right, right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think he thought that effort. I think, how do
Speaker 1: you know? Because I did you ask Cindy Walsh placement
Speaker 1: and Jim's Jim Walsh. I just don't know. I'm watching.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he finally came to his census though, and
Speaker 1: let him coming in and saying pack. There's nothing hotter
Speaker 1: than your husband coming into the room and saying pack
Speaker 1: your bags were going away. I mean, I can't think
Speaker 1: of a couple of hotter things. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: so Jim Walsh originally was into poetry. Yeah, bizarre, Like
Speaker 1: the counting was like I get up my basketball career
Speaker 1: when I was twelve, and then Jim's like, what about you?
Speaker 1: And Jim's like poetry poetry even at that and then
Speaker 1: later in the episode he's reading some prose that he's
Speaker 1: you know, especially fond of really getting deep. So it
Speaker 1: was just literally put in there for a call back.
Speaker 1: But like, I just don't picture Jim Walls like into
Speaker 1: poetry like a I tried to when when I was
Speaker 1: watching it. I tried to see him as like kind
Speaker 1: of like a beat nick like hippie kind of and
Speaker 1: could you like one of these, you know, poetry reading
Speaker 1: and I could. I could see it, like if his
Speaker 1: hair was a little more bushier and maybe had like
Speaker 1: how I don't know, let's pull up James Eckhouse at
Speaker 1: like eighteen years old, and see if we can picture it.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should be They wrote it because he was
Speaker 1: into poetry. Who knows. Yeah, they would do a lot
Speaker 1: of things based on what we would be into or
Speaker 1: we would say, and no one ever knew. But I'm
Speaker 1: glad that I'm glad that Jim decided to grows some
Speaker 1: balls and go talk to the guy. He decided to
Speaker 1: go meet up with him. You know what I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say? Say it gross a car that's air
Speaker 1: everywhere else. I don't think you're gonna go there. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to reference that she's talked about
Speaker 1: punching someone in the today, she's talking about gross and balls. Sisters,
Speaker 1: she was all innocent. Okay, now I'm picturing a hairy button.
Speaker 1: I can't go any further things. We have some questions
Speaker 1: from listeners that we should get to hang on. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. So okay, we're back. But I forgot
Speaker 1: to say, like, how beautiful I thought, Carol or Cindy,
Speaker 1: you get confused. They looked in those photographs that the
Speaker 1: guy took. He he was pretty decent photographer, and the
Speaker 1: she just looked beautiful. Did you guys notice that Um
Speaker 1: Dylan and both Dylan and Andrea were not in this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe happened. Sure people noticed that Dylan wasn't in it.
Speaker 1: I want to say that even though Luke was made
Speaker 1: a regular, he was only made seven out of now
Speaker 1: that what it would be the equivalent of seven out
Speaker 1: of ten nowadays. But we did twenty two episodes, so
Speaker 1: he wasn't picked up first season for every episode, which
Speaker 1: is crazy. That's how Fox seems. Is that seem right? Okay?
Speaker 1: Why wasn't Gabrielle in it? So? I don't know. Did
Speaker 1: she have the same sort of odd deal that Andrea
Speaker 1: wasn't every episode? So that was a deal thing. Then
Speaker 1: it was like you were had specific amount of episodes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and Steve. Steve only had like one line and then
Speaker 1: the one scene in the DJ booth, which wasn't even
Speaker 1: the scene. It was just like a few words. So
Speaker 1: you you know, he probably wasn't very happy about that.
Speaker 1: I'm getting like diva vibes from Ian. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I need to know something like oh the silent smiles
Speaker 1: to say everything? What was his name? What was his name?
Speaker 1: Jen Elzo? What? He will tell you this when he
Speaker 1: comes on? Can you speak up? We didn't hear on
Speaker 1: our story to share. El Zeno. We had a nickname
Speaker 1: for him. He had a nickname for himself after a while, Elzo.
Speaker 1: Why wasn't that the boys nicknamed him? Not? Yeah, the well,
Speaker 1: you know the storms o. Brian telling this story. There's
Speaker 1: nothing like Brian telling the story. He's because and then
Speaker 1: Jason jumps in, and then Iron turns bright red and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh it's so good. Was it like, um,
Speaker 1: was it endearing his personality? Yeah? We love Sally, he's
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah, makes us laugh constantly, got it. But
Speaker 1: I mean we all ten years together, we all had
Speaker 1: our highs and our lowes. Oh yeah, for sure. He
Speaker 1: just had some very public eyes in front of all
Speaker 1: of us. Nothing that's not endearing, though, Like still like
Speaker 1: we should wait and let let the boys tell the story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by it. That sounds awesome. Oh yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: Questions from listeners you guys ready, Yes, we love those.
Speaker 1: This one is from Brad. Brad says the character of
Speaker 1: Donna was originally named Donna Morrigan in the pilot episode,
Speaker 1: but changed soon after to Donna Martin. So I was
Speaker 1: wondering if you had any inside about the name change.
Speaker 1: I had no idea. Is that Jen your name was Morgan?
Speaker 1: I feel like, no, Donna Morrigan, Donna had no last name? No,
Speaker 1: yeah right show. Yeah. I used to call her like
Speaker 1: Kelly's friend number one like that that, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: even remember she had like a name in the first episode.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not even convinced of that it was Donna Morrigan, Donna.
Speaker 1: That would have changed everything. Hunt Donna Morrigan graduates. I
Speaker 1: don't know what if. Maybe you just heard it wrong,
Speaker 1: maybe it was always Martin. I don't know. Okay, moving on. Oh,
Speaker 1: I saw this question. I saw this question, and I
Speaker 1: was actually curious too. So why does season one not
Speaker 1: have the standard opening credit sequence with the blue screen
Speaker 1: that we're all used to. I was shocked. So sorry,
Speaker 1: I have to go back. I know why my name
Speaker 1: was Donna Martin. Okay, can I go tell us? I'm
Speaker 1: raising my hand. I'm so sorry. It just hit me.
Speaker 1: You guys why they did it? So? I don't remember
Speaker 1: her having a last name, but my dad made it
Speaker 1: Donna Martin because my godfather is Dean Martin. So he
Speaker 1: was like, just make her last name Martin. Sorry, that's
Speaker 1: the story. I love that. Yeah, back to Kelly Ann's question,
Speaker 1: why does season one not have this standard opening credit
Speaker 1: sequence with the blue screen that we're all used to.
Speaker 1: I was shocked not to see it when I started rewatching.
Speaker 1: I do not remember ever being a season without it.
Speaker 1: Um that happened later on. I forgot we didn't have
Speaker 1: that either, and they didn't think that one up yet.
Speaker 1: I always looked forward to it every season because it
Speaker 1: would kind of be different, so did we we had
Speaker 1: our standard. Sometimes the first season of a show, like
Speaker 1: their opening sequence looks different. I mean sometimes season has
Speaker 1: always looked different. Our show kind of got that that
Speaker 1: look with the backdrop and the lighting and where we
Speaker 1: all turn, oh yeah, Like the first season they just
Speaker 1: like us stock stuff from like us, like yeah class,
Speaker 1: And then the second season they're like, oh, on the
Speaker 1: show is starting to do well, let's do a day
Speaker 1: where we have like a photo shoot. We would do
Speaker 1: big cast photo shoots on those days, and then another
Speaker 1: crew would set up like a the stool, the rotating stool,
Speaker 1: and I remember they had like it was a whole
Speaker 1: new crew, so they tried to really get artsy with it,
Speaker 1: and they had a fancy backdrop and they had fancy
Speaker 1: lighting and they had to remember them had like water
Speaker 1: in front of us, and they would jiggle the water
Speaker 1: so it reflected on the backdrop like it made that
Speaker 1: was yeah, I just remember that, not remember that. I
Speaker 1: didn't remember that until for B H and nine, O
Speaker 1: two and O we went back and looked at it
Speaker 1: so hardcore and we tried to recreate that, and we're like,
Speaker 1: but you remembered. She always remembered. She was like it
Speaker 1: was water because everyone's like, how did they did they
Speaker 1: use it was a a certain um paper in the background,
Speaker 1: and you were like, no, it's they literally jiggled water
Speaker 1: panful of water. Those were iconic though, and gosh, I
Speaker 1: feel like those days were the hardest days. And ten
Speaker 1: years were those photo shoot days and promo days. It
Speaker 1: was just hard because everybody was there all at the
Speaker 1: same time, and everybody had to be ready all at
Speaker 1: the same time. The boys were always like, the boys
Speaker 1: hate it waiting for us, but it's like it would
Speaker 1: take the longest all of us, Like the girls just
Speaker 1: took a long time. But the boys like would always
Speaker 1: make comments which didn't make it easier. Like as soon
Speaker 1: as we'd walk on set, they'd be very like loud,
Speaker 1: making jokes to each other and high fiving and like
Speaker 1: oh here, like remember, and we'd be like and then
Speaker 1: they're like, everyone get together and smile your best friends.
Speaker 1: It's like we were best friends. But they would just
Speaker 1: get really impatient. It's like all you have to do
Speaker 1: is put on like a T shirt and or Steve's button,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and like just pop onto set. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: a little more intensive for us. Yeah, and the wardrobe. Well,
Speaker 1: so do we see that season two? I think we
Speaker 1: see the new promo. The new is what's it called,
Speaker 1: like an intervening sequence, intros whatever? Character? I don't know, credits,
Speaker 1: opening credits. Yes, and when we get to season two,
Speaker 1: we should start to dissect the opening credits each season
Speaker 1: because their stories interesting. We'll get to it, all right.
Speaker 1: Paul is asking as you rewatch the show, which character
Speaker 1: is your overall favorite? Which character do you feel resonates
Speaker 1: with you the most? If if other than our own
Speaker 1: probably like if you if you were on uh, who
Speaker 1: would you be or want to be or like relate
Speaker 1: to the most. I'm gonna I'm gonna change his question
Speaker 1: just a little. I it's so hard to take yourself
Speaker 1: out of it. I guess if I had to watching
Speaker 1: now completely unrelated, I would probably relate to so far
Speaker 1: at episode eight, like Brenda, mm hmm, i'd be a Brenda.
Speaker 1: Who would you be? I've always said Andrea. I just
Speaker 1: love the character of Andrea. I love her look, I
Speaker 1: love her choices, I love just I just loved her.
Speaker 1: And watching it back, I mean, yeah, I told you
Speaker 1: guys like I have a bit more of an appreciation
Speaker 1: for the Brenda character for sure, and I could have
Speaker 1: said Brenda, but Andrea is always the one that I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish I wasn't Andrea. Si ah, I'd want to
Speaker 1: be like Dylan McKay, mysterious, unpredictable heart thrub. Everyone wants you,
Speaker 1: they can't have you. Nice choice. It's so funny like
Speaker 1: watching it from like a young, like teenage girl perspective now,
Speaker 1: like I definitely and I never all these years, if
Speaker 1: you've been like, hey, which character on the show, like
Speaker 1: obviously aunt Donna with David like anything, like who would
Speaker 1: you pick? I would have always said Luke and now
Speaker 1: or Dylan I would have said Dylan. And now watching
Speaker 1: it back, I'm like, I'm a Brandon fan, Like at
Speaker 1: seven years old, I'm like a teenage girl crushing on Brandon.
Speaker 1: It would be Brandon. His eyes did look especially beautiful
Speaker 1: in in this episode and putting on that tie. He
Speaker 1: was just too goody goody for me. I used to
Speaker 1: think that, but maybe now, like I always wanted the
Speaker 1: bad boy, but now like maybe as an adult you
Speaker 1: rethink things and you see it differently, And now I
Speaker 1: am seeing things through Brandon and I'm like he's a
Speaker 1: great Like he's a good guy and he's gorgeous, like
Speaker 1: I would have like picked differently in theory, are we
Speaker 1: gonna do lines that we like? Because I have on
Speaker 1: this episode? Actually, Oh, what was your favorite lay it
Speaker 1: on us? What was your favorite line from? So it
Speaker 1: was a Donna line and it was sticking out here,
Speaker 1: sticking out here is fitting in. It's a little clue,
Speaker 1: sticking out here is fitting in. She says it at
Speaker 1: the photography show. So there's like a meme of Donna
Speaker 1: doing that, and people always send it to me and
Speaker 1: I'm always like whatever, And then I watched it back
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there it is there. It is
Speaker 1: still don't get what it means, but it's there. What
Speaker 1: do you mean you don't get what it means. It means,
Speaker 1: like she was saying, you have to be memorable, you
Speaker 1: have to be different than everybody else. So that because
Speaker 1: that's what you're like everyone else in reference Hills. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just that life stuff. It doesn't deep. I like
Speaker 1: the line, um, well, there's a couple. I like the
Speaker 1: line about the nooner. Do you guys remember that one
Speaker 1: wanted dad a nooner? No, he said mom's having a nooner?
Speaker 1: What's a neoner? And then he said let's just move
Speaker 1: on or something. I don't know, but they didn't expand
Speaker 1: on what a nooner was. Maybe that exists. Is that
Speaker 1: a thing? A nooner? Yeah, like an afternoon delight. And
Speaker 1: then my other one was, come on, Brenda, they're married,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be crabby. Yeah. I did like Cindy
Speaker 1: saying I'm not wearing perfume. I'm wearing toilet water. Toilet water,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what twilet you know there's perfume.
Speaker 1: And then there's like that's like a fancy thing. No,
Speaker 1: it's like nots um not as strong. Yes, it's like
Speaker 1: a it's like a water down, like if you put
Speaker 1: it in the toilet and like swish it around. But
Speaker 1: I didn't know that's where originated. People used to actually
Speaker 1: refer to it as toilet water. I never heard anyone
Speaker 1: say I'm wearing toilet water. I've never heard it either,
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I guess maybe in the
Speaker 1: nineties people said that, like either you're wearing perfume or
Speaker 1: you're wearing like the water down version, it's toilet water.
Speaker 1: But I was like, she said it, and like it
Speaker 1: threw me off to Okay, did you have a favort
Speaker 1: lines this? Um, yeah, I put a few here. This
Speaker 1: one was like I think he has the hots for Mom.
Speaker 1: Brenda to Brandon about Glenn, and then Brandon goes dream On,
Speaker 1: which kind of just puts him back into like this
Speaker 1: innocent fifties vibe. I don't know, like, who's this dream on?
Speaker 1: You know who says that? That got the guy from
Speaker 1: Back to the Future. I don't know. It just reminds
Speaker 1: me of Marty McFly. Somebody from the future would say
Speaker 1: that dream on, dream on. I feel like that was
Speaker 1: people said dream on back then, right, I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a whole series called dream On, But like there
Speaker 1: was dream On, makes Brandon even dreamier. Let's bring it
Speaker 1: back in a really sweet one from Cindy was when
Speaker 1: she spoke down to Glenn and she was like, I
Speaker 1: really like you, but I really love my husband. And
Speaker 1: it was just like, that's romantic. That is her soul mate.
Speaker 1: There's no what if it was always supposed to be
Speaker 1: Jim Walsh for her. I love that. This what's our
Speaker 1: our homework? Everybody we got homework is episode nine, which
Speaker 1: is the gentle art of listening. Brenda finds herself in
Speaker 1: a crisis when she gets to know an unseen student
Speaker 1: date rape victim from Andrea's volunteer help line. I remember
Speaker 1: that the helpline. Remember help lines? Oh right, so she volunteers,
Speaker 1: we should we should wait and talk about it next week. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we're in it for anybody. All right, Well it's the
Speaker 1: homework Assignment. Okay, go get your Hulu on or wherever
Speaker 1: you watch it, your Amazon Prime