WEBVTT - Can’t Vape While You’re Pregnant with Rosebud Baker

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea, how are you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just here in Whistler, just whistling and whistler.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it snowing or raining behind you? I can't quite tell.

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<v Speaker 3>It was snowing and it turned to rain, which has

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<v Speaker 3>been the saga of this whole season. It's supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be freezing temperature so that it's rain, that it's snow,

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<v Speaker 3>not rain. So when the freezing levels are higher and

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<v Speaker 3>higher and higher, that means anything beneath that is wetter

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<v Speaker 3>and wetter and wetter.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it just turns to ice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, it just ruins the snow basically, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>gets cold and it freezes the snow and then it

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<v Speaker 3>turns into ice.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically, a meteorologist snow.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just added to your list of skills.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm adding that as well as dog training. I've

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<v Speaker 3>become very regimented in my dog training. Doug has an

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<v Speaker 3>entire situation going. He has a life coach, he has

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<v Speaker 3>a dog walker. He goes out three times a week.

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<v Speaker 3>She picks him up at nine and brings him back

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<v Speaker 3>at noon. And then, I mean, yeah, my neighbor was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>can Doug and his dog play have a playdate, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, his schedule is packed during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want Doug, you have to come at night.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, okay, I'm gonna come at six to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up Doug because they play so nicely on the

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<v Speaker 3>ski hill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, okay, let me know any other

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<v Speaker 3>nights you want to come get them.

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<v Speaker 1>And social calendar is so fall.

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<v Speaker 3>He has a lot of social activities. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>a soccer moll. Yeah, everyone wants playdates with him. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't do one on ones, so we only do

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<v Speaker 3>group playing me.

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<v Speaker 5>He doesn't have time for anything else. Well, you have

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<v Speaker 5>a birthday coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I do. I filmed my ski video yesterday. Oh, exciting

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<v Speaker 2>some special guests in that skip video.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that'll be new and exciting for this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually going to be like fuck it because

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<v Speaker 3>the weather's been so shitty and the snow's been kind

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<v Speaker 3>of crappy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, fuck the video, and then my

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<v Speaker 2>friends are like, you can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to do the video. It's tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>It's tradition.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also know that you're reading a fun new

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<v Speaker 5>book that I just finished.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes you, guys, we have to tease Kristin Hannah, author

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<v Speaker 3>of The Great Alone, the book that I gave out

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone as my Christmas gift, along with Atomic Habits,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a book I actually read yet, but I

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<v Speaker 3>heard great things about and I've read the great things

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I've read everything about the book. But Kristin

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<v Speaker 3>Hannah wrote The Great Alone, and she wrote this new book.

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<v Speaker 3>She wrote The Nightingale. She wrote a bunch of books,

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<v Speaker 3>and the most recent book is called The Women, which

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<v Speaker 3>I am currently reading, and we are having her on

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<v Speaker 3>the podcast soon. So for all of our listeners who

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<v Speaker 3>read The Greade Alone and loved it, please read The

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<v Speaker 3>Women to prepare for our interview with Kristin Hannah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fantastic. It's like her books are very long, but

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<v Speaker 5>they're like you just consume them because her character is

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<v Speaker 5>super vivid. Yeah. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have a special guest today which is one

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<v Speaker 3>of my favorite people. She's a comedian, she has a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of it. She has her own podcast too, and

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<v Speaker 3>she is a new mother. Please welcome Rosebud Baker. Rosebud

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<v Speaker 3>is back for her second well it's the second Coming

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<v Speaker 3>of Christ.

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<v Speaker 4>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>She is back as a second time guest because we

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<v Speaker 3>loved her so much the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a pretty major update that has happened in

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<v Speaker 2>Rosebud's life.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't follow Rosebud on so well, you should,

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<v Speaker 3>and you should also watch your comedy specials.

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<v Speaker 2>You have two on YouTube, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one on YouTube, two shorter sets on Netflix.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah okay, and then you have one on Comedy Central.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. Well, it's on Comedy Central's YouTube. It's called Whiskey Fish.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Rosebud, against my better judgment, decided to procreate. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I have known her now for a few years,

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<v Speaker 3>I've had the pleasure of knowing her for a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>She's also a writer on SNL, so that's actually very

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<v Speaker 3>much worth mentioning.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a married woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Who I met because she's a very talented writer, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was talking to me. I think she was opening

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<v Speaker 3>for me on a couple of stand updates, and we

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<v Speaker 3>were discussing freezing your eggs, and I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>dissuade you from ever doing such a thing and that

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<v Speaker 3>it was not necessary to procreate because I assumed you

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<v Speaker 3>were like more like me in yeah, in really, because

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like you were on the fence, and I

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<v Speaker 3>always feel like if any one's on the fence, don't

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<v Speaker 3>do it with children, Like you should be one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand percent excited. And you were on the fence, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, if you have any question, there's no question,

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<v Speaker 3>back it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And then.

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<v Speaker 4>You and I are different in that way, and that

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, if you're one hundred percent into having kids,

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<v Speaker 4>you haven't thought it through. Hmm, Like if you're one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred percent into it, stop and think for a second,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>But I but valid.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I remember you saying like, oh, you don't

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<v Speaker 4>have to and I and I felt I was. I

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<v Speaker 4>was kind of like, we'll see, we'll see. And then

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<v Speaker 4>I rosee embryos because I was like, I wasn't sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I got pregnant while I had COVID, like

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<v Speaker 4>right after freezing the amber.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so interesting, got a little frisky while you were sick.

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<v Speaker 4>It was against your better judgment and mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and doctor Frauci's.

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<v Speaker 4>And doctor Frauci's so okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So since then, she's had a baby and she has

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<v Speaker 3>fallen madly in love with her baby, and I want

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<v Speaker 3>to fucking hear all about it, Rosebud Okay fro, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear from everything because I know your pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, your pregnancy looked very uncomfortable for me

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<v Speaker 3>watching you expand like that she was on stage. I

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<v Speaker 3>think up until probably like a week before you gave birth,

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<v Speaker 3>right or was it even closer to your birthday?

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<v Speaker 4>It was? It was not, No, it wasn't a week,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was. I think I was like thirty six

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<v Speaker 4>weeks was the last time I was on stage, and

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<v Speaker 4>then I went until thirty nine weeks, so it was

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<v Speaker 4>like three weeks I was down. But yeah, it sucked.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I look at what you did as something

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<v Speaker 3>that like if I were ever to do it, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like I would have a similar experience that you

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<v Speaker 3>did because of your attitude towards pretty much everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so take us through it, take us through the pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 3>take us through the news of becoming pregnant and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that stuff. I want to know, like what your

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<v Speaker 3>roller coaster of emotions or if it wasn't a roller

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<v Speaker 3>coaster of emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it was one hundred percent of roller coaster of emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's an absolute I just to be clear, not

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<v Speaker 4>for everybody. But for me, pregnancy was a no less

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<v Speaker 4>than body torture that went on for nine months. It's

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<v Speaker 4>bad when it starts and then it gets a little better.

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<v Speaker 4>But by the end, I was like, Oh, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what makes it possible to give birth is that you're

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<v Speaker 4>so miserable that you're like, I'll do anything to get

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<v Speaker 4>them out. Like, that's what makes it possible is just

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of physical discomfort you're in. It kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like gives you this willingness to just go to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like, I'll cut it out myself. If this is

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<v Speaker 4>where we're headed.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, which is where you're headed?

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<v Speaker 4>Which is where we're headed. Yeah, So when I found

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<v Speaker 4>out I was pregnant, I was like, oh, well, this

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<v Speaker 4>sort of messes up the plan, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, because Rostbud's career is really on the upswing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're taking off, you're getting the credit you've deserveed, and

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<v Speaker 3>you only have your whole career ahead of you. So

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<v Speaker 3>also like not great timing for a lot of people's

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<v Speaker 3>mentality in this business, right, people don't want to have

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<v Speaker 3>kids until they're completely situated in their success exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people are scared to do yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>not you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I was scared.

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<v Speaker 2>I was are you smoking right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm vaping. I'm back to BA.

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<v Speaker 1>You also couldn't do that while pregnant.

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<v Speaker 4>I decided not to breastfeed because it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I wanted to debate, and I also wanted debate, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the truth. And I was like, I've done enough. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I carried her.

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<v Speaker 2>You're sober, you can don't have any alcohol or like addiction.

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<v Speaker 2>You can lean on except for vape.

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<v Speaker 4>Except for this, and so I and the whole time

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<v Speaker 4>that I quit, I was like, people were like, so,

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<v Speaker 4>are you quit for good? And I said, from the

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<v Speaker 4>very beginning of my pregnancy until right now, I said,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go back the second that I can.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was true to my word. Yeah good. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think here's one thing that my attitude has given

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<v Speaker 4>me is like an unwavering faith that whatever decision I

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<v Speaker 4>make is the right decision. And I don't care about

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<v Speaker 4>people's opinions about it. I don't. I'm going to do

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<v Speaker 4>what I want to do because a happy mom is

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<v Speaker 4>a better mom than a mom that is miserable and

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<v Speaker 4>a martyr. So I am just not I'm not into

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<v Speaker 4>that and that's not the kind of mom I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was the most uncomfortable part about the back

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<v Speaker 2>to the pregnancy? Was it the weight gain? Was it indigestion?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the part that was just so unbearable?

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<v Speaker 4>It was that the weight of my baby caused my hips.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a joint that connects your pelvis in the front,

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<v Speaker 4>and the weight of my baby was such that and

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<v Speaker 4>because your ligaments loosen up in pregnancy, my hips actually

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<v Speaker 4>split and so it just felt like hit. My entire

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<v Speaker 4>pelvis felt like a barrel of loose bone. So by

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<v Speaker 4>the end of my pregnancy, I truly couldn't walk. And

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<v Speaker 4>the worst part about it was that they had no solution.

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<v Speaker 4>I went in and I was like, Hey, it feels

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<v Speaker 4>like my pussy's gonna fall out of my asshole and

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<v Speaker 4>I need something for this, and they were like support, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>They said, well, you could just tape your hips together

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<v Speaker 4>with this disgusting elastic underwear that's just medical underwear. So

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<v Speaker 4>not only did I feel less sexy than I'd ever

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<v Speaker 4>felt in my life, they also added medical underwear to

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<v Speaker 4>that equation, which made it not the most glowing I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever felt, you know, and you know there are women

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<v Speaker 4>that glow during pregnancy. I was not one of those women.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't look good on me, it doesn't feel good

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<v Speaker 4>on me. I fucking hated it from beginning to end.

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<v Speaker 4>But by the time it was over, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this was one hundred percent worth it. I love my baby.

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<v Speaker 4>It took some time. It wasn't a meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I it didn't take some time to love her.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved her the second. It was weird, like I

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<v Speaker 4>would have died for her, but I couldn't tell you

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<v Speaker 4>why because she didn't do anything, like she was truly

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<v Speaker 4>like a blob. And it's like having a pet turtle.

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<v Speaker 4>For a while, you're just kind of staring at them

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<v Speaker 4>and they don't do anything, and you're like, did I

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<v Speaker 4>I ruined my life? I ruined my life and I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know what I'm doing and I liked my life before,

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<v Speaker 4>and what have I done? And then one day they

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<v Speaker 4>smile at you, and it's like the whole thing changes. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like I have Seltzer in my veins when

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<v Speaker 4>I think about her. That's how much I love her,

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<v Speaker 4>And I get excited to go home which was not

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<v Speaker 4>the case when it was just a husband. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>mean it's like, now I get excited. I'm so pumped

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<v Speaker 4>I get to talk to her. She smiles back at me,

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<v Speaker 4>like every day, it's a new thing. But for a while,

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<v Speaker 4>it was really rough. And I was nervous about that

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<v Speaker 4>time because I was like I knew it was coming,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I knew that when she was here, I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to have a real identity crisis that I wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>that nothing could have prepared me for. And so while

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<v Speaker 4>it was happening, even being aware of it didn't help.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was just like, oh my god. And plus

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<v Speaker 4>I was so raw. You're just an open wound walking around.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you have a natural childbirth or did you get

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<v Speaker 3>an epidural? I mean, I don't know, you're sober. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what the rules are. I'll assume you could

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<v Speaker 3>get the one time drugs are legally allowed to get

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<v Speaker 3>in your body.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet that you would take that.

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<v Speaker 4>Opportunity obvious, Okay, I said to the doctor's I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to push for one fucking second. I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>I'm calling to schedule acy section. I was twenty weeks

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<v Speaker 4>when I called scheduleacy section and they were like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you could give birth naturally, and I said, I have

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<v Speaker 4>no interest. I want to know when I'm giving birth.

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<v Speaker 4>I want there to be a deadline and I want

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<v Speaker 4>to go in there and I want a full spinal tap.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want you to present my baby like a

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<v Speaker 4>bottle of wine and just say here she is. And

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<v Speaker 4>it was really lovely. I mean, I really really loved

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<v Speaker 4>my labor. It was like I went in, I laid down,

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<v Speaker 4>they gave me a baby, and then I was paralyzed

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<v Speaker 4>for three days and it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>That's perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds like a procedure I would want without the

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<v Speaker 3>end result being a baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you know, like I want to get a spinal tap,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be in bed in a hospital for

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<v Speaker 3>three days getting drugs and yeah, like all the way

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<v Speaker 3>all of that sounds I wouldn't even mind, like a

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<v Speaker 3>cician scar. Yeah, if I had to get that in

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<v Speaker 3>exchange for all of the supplies that they were giving me,

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<v Speaker 3>it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're going to take a break. We'll be right back,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're back.

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<v Speaker 3>So Andy is her husband, and I always find it

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<v Speaker 3>very interesting how everyone spouses are surprised by each other's

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<v Speaker 3>reactions behavior and parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>When a baby comes on the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so are you surprised by Andy? Tell me about

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<v Speaker 3>his reaction and everything.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not surprised, but I mean because it's so it's

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<v Speaker 4>so what you would kind of expect from with our dynamic.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was so nervous about getting like postpartum depression,

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<v Speaker 4>postpartum anxiety, and then he, being so supportive, decided to

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<v Speaker 4>get it for me. And he got the postpartum anxiety

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<v Speaker 4>and was fully checking to see if she was breathing

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<v Speaker 4>every five seconds, was scared to like zip up her

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<v Speaker 4>onesie all the way because he thought it was gonna

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<v Speaker 4>choke her. I'm like, it's this is how they're designed,

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<v Speaker 4>and all of that sounds like totally fine until you're

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<v Speaker 4>putting the baby in the car seat and he's like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>leave it a little loose because it could kill her.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you don't want to like invalidate how he's feeling,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the same time, how he's feeling is insane,

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<v Speaker 4>not valid, is not valid, So you're like, what do

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<v Speaker 4>I do here? And plus I felt a little jealous

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, this is kind of like my

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<v Speaker 4>time to be crazy, Like I have like full carte

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<v Speaker 4>blanche to be insane right now, and you're like taking

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<v Speaker 4>that from me. So I had my own feelings about

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<v Speaker 4>that as well, you know where I had to work through,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's like this asshole.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so synthrobbing my postpart of experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and how quickly did you go back to work

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<v Speaker 3>after you had the baby?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your baby's name again, Mino Minno?

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<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say Willow, but that's my other friend's baby, okay, Mino, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>What's her middle name?

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<v Speaker 4>Baker? Because I was like, if I she's named after

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite aunt. And I was like, if I give

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<v Speaker 4>her the name Minno, I can't give her like a

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<v Speaker 4>anything after that is like a Wes Anderson movie, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean. Like I was like, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>do like Minno Penelope. It's got to be something hard

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<v Speaker 4>after Minno. So solid, I was like, Minno Baker haynes

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<v Speaker 4>Is that's her full name.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a cool name.

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<v Speaker 4>It's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So what have you discovered about yourself as a mother.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess I'm still kind of discovering it, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really know yet. I'm still figuring that out, I'll

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<v Speaker 4>say what I think I'm doing right, which is that

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<v Speaker 4>when I'm with her, I'm one hundred percent with her,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I don't look at my phone, I don't mess

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<v Speaker 4>with work. I'm just like with her one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love watching her grow up. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>someone who like I don't feel sad when she grows

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<v Speaker 4>out of something. I'm like excited to see her because

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<v Speaker 4>who she is, and like I don't have this kind

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<v Speaker 4>of nervousness that I feel like a lot of parents

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<v Speaker 4>have about her growing up. I'm excited. I'm genuinely excited

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<v Speaker 4>for it, and I'm excited to see her become who

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<v Speaker 4>she is. On the other hand, I went back to

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<v Speaker 4>work after six weeks, and some people say, like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>not a lot of time. To me, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of time. I wanted to start using my brain again

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<v Speaker 4>for other things besides like changing her diaper. And so

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<v Speaker 4>the result of that is, like I do worry all

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<v Speaker 4>the time that she's gonna think Andy is her mom.

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<v Speaker 4>I am constantly worried, Like I look in her eyes

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<v Speaker 4>to see if she thinks I'm like her dad's girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I mean? Like it's I feel

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<v Speaker 4>genuine anxiety about the time that I spend away from

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<v Speaker 4>her and how that is affecting her, and I worry

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<v Speaker 4>about that all the time, Like I keep trying to remember,

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<v Speaker 4>like how I felt about this stuff before I had

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<v Speaker 4>a kid, which is like, she's a baby. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be fine. You're her mom, There's nothing that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>break that, like bond. You're good. I just try not

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<v Speaker 4>to overthink things.

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<v Speaker 3>And has anything about your behavior since you had a

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<v Speaker 3>child surprised you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean I am surprised by how much I

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<v Speaker 4>love her, Like I was prepared for the stuff that

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<v Speaker 4>is bad, I'm prepared for. I've been sleep deprived, I've

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<v Speaker 4>done things that I thought were impossible. Honestly, I've had

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<v Speaker 4>a puppy, and that is harder, Like having a puppy

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<v Speaker 4>is harder than having a baby. Puppies can run, they

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<v Speaker 4>are born knowing how to run, and babies can't. So

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<v Speaker 4>the sleep deprivation is tough. But out of the two,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that was probably tougher for us. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>just been like amazing to me how much I love her.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I wasn't prepared for the good stuff I

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<v Speaker 4>really wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when you have questions already saying like do

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<v Speaker 2>you have people to go to? Like who do you

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<v Speaker 2>go to? Do you go to your mom or any friends?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I talked to Rachel Fine seeing a lot

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<v Speaker 4>because Rachel's a comic with a kid. And it's weird

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<v Speaker 4>because I feel outside of comics in a way now

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<v Speaker 4>that I didn't before. But I also feel outside of

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<v Speaker 4>moms in a way that I didn't expect to because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, you know, I don't get excited about decorations

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<v Speaker 4>for Halloween. It's not something that I'm like excited about.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's things about like being a mom that I

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<v Speaker 4>feel distant from. So I just go to people who

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<v Speaker 4>are comics with kids, you know, that I feel close to,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not a lot of them. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 4>that there's not a ton of questions that I have.

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<v Speaker 4>The only things that I'm like really concerned about are

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm like, hey, I'm crying more than I used to.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that about? And people are like, yeah, that's pretty normal, Rosebud.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not like you don't need to be concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 4>But I wasn't a big crier before. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of odd.

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<v Speaker 3>And what about your relationship with Andy? Has that brought

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<v Speaker 3>you guys closer together?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you've produced this thing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's brought us closer in a major way. It's challenged

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<v Speaker 4>our relationship in a huge way. It's it's very difficult

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<v Speaker 4>at this stage that we're in not to constantly be

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<v Speaker 4>fighting about who's doing more. You know. That's like a

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<v Speaker 4>thing where you're just like why did this? And then

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<v Speaker 4>why did this? And I found myself being like, you're

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<v Speaker 4>keeping score, but so was I. You know, I had

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<v Speaker 4>like a score I had, I had a tallly of

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<v Speaker 4>all the times he'd kept score. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm telling him not to keep score while keeping a

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<v Speaker 4>tallly of all the times that he's done it, Which

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<v Speaker 4>is we're both doing more than we thought we were

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<v Speaker 4>capable of. And you definitely start to feel resentful about it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have to you literally have to fight that

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<v Speaker 4>urge to like be like it wasn't like this before,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's like, yeah, no shit, dumbass, it's never going

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<v Speaker 4>to be the same, you know. So that's been tough.

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<v Speaker 4>But it also is like I look at him and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, holy shit, everything that I've made fun of

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<v Speaker 4>him for for years, like being so sensitive and so

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<v Speaker 4>like caring. I'm like, there's no one in the world

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<v Speaker 4>that if I was going to have a kid, I

0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:30.880
<v Speaker 4>chose absolutely the right person advocate with. And also if

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<v Speaker 4>I weren't with him, this wouldn't be possible, Like this

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<v Speaker 4>would not be possible. So yeah, there's that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not funny, but it's that's the story, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's always Yeah, I think it's always so

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<v Speaker 3>fascinating how people react to it.

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<v Speaker 2>People always describe.

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<v Speaker 3>It as like your heart expanding to this degree of

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<v Speaker 3>you don't even know you have this capacity to love.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a new puppy and I'm like, wow, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know I had the capacity to actually take to.

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<v Speaker 3>Walks because my dogs don't fucking walk stand there. I've

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<v Speaker 3>never I always have rescues so they're always old quick,

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<v Speaker 3>And now I have a nine month old puppy and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like seeing myself. I'm like, I'm taking him to

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<v Speaker 3>the doggie park, Like I would never take them to

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<v Speaker 3>the doggy park because.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't do anything at the doggy park.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh, Mike and I'm talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>dog and I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm my bandwidth.

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<v Speaker 3>Is greater now because if he has such high energy

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<v Speaker 3>and I want to support that. Yeah, I'm like, look

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<v Speaker 3>at you cruising in a motherhood for this seventh time

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<v Speaker 3>as a dog owner. But I can only imagine, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's on a obviously different level. But like I can

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<v Speaker 3>only imagine when people talk about your heart expanding and

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<v Speaker 3>your capacity to like love someone so much, that's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be the best feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 4>It is. It's funny because I used to hear that

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, Like before I had kids, I used

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<v Speaker 4>to hear, oh, yeah, loving a dog is different than

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<v Speaker 4>loving it, And I'm like, it's not, though, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like love is love is love is love, you know

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<v Speaker 4>what I mean. Like when I think about my pitbull Alabama,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's certain dogs you know that you have like

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<v Speaker 4>that like real strong connection with and this was like

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<v Speaker 4>my soul dog, and I think about her, and I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was the same level. It was the same level

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<v Speaker 4>of love that I feel now that I felt then.

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<v Speaker 4>I truly like love them both the same. So I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really think it's like a different thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you would you could jump in front of a

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<v Speaker 3>car for both of them too. I would like your

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<v Speaker 3>degree of commitment is the same, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. To be honest, it's funny. I was like

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about it. It was like a few days after

0:22:38.000 --> 0:22:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Minna was born, and I was like walking her across

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<v Speaker 4>the street, and I thought, if a car came and

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<v Speaker 4>hit us right now, what would what would I do?

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<v Speaker 4>And literally my first thought was, well, my body would

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<v Speaker 4>turn into metal and the car would flip over. Like

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<v Speaker 4>I literally was like, I just that was what I thought.

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<v Speaker 4>It like took me a second to be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not physically possible.

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<v Speaker 3>But and what's your SNL schedule these days? Like do

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<v Speaker 3>you did you have to adjust that? Because I know

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<v Speaker 3>you work crazy hours there you all do?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I haven't. I haven't really adjusted the schedule. I don't.

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean I took those six weeks off, but I

0:23:16.000 --> 0:23:18.479
<v Speaker 4>I work the same hours that I did before. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I have a nanny. So it's that makes me lucky,

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<v Speaker 4>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Mateo your nanny?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? No, Mateo won't hold the baby. Mateo has come

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<v Speaker 4>over so many times and and and just sits next

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<v Speaker 4>to the baby, and I'm like, he's like, well, when

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<v Speaker 4>she can hold up her head, then I'll then I'll

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<v Speaker 4>then I'll hold her. But he's like, it scares the

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<v Speaker 4>shit out of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I'll engauge.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>My dad always says that he's like when they're out

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<v Speaker 5>of the slug stage, like six months, like past six months,

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<v Speaker 5>he's interested.

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<v Speaker 1>But before that he's like no, no, no, no thanks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, Honestly, I'm kind of the same. I was not.

0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:57.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not really like a newborn gal. They don't do

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<v Speaker 4>it for me until their eyes are open and they're laughing.

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:02.680
<v Speaker 4>That's when it gets interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's almost pathetic how useless they are in

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning. It is defenseless and useless, like it's just

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 3>like a blood like they have to be kept alive.

0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like, wow, they're like a slug.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, it's crazy. They're not even supposed to be

0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 4>out of the womb for like another It's like human

0:24:23.720 --> 0:24:27.200
<v Speaker 4>beings just can't physically carry a baby for as long

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 4>as we're supposed to, which is why they call that

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<v Speaker 4>the fourth trimester is like those three months after they're

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 4>born that they're just they're not fully cooked like they

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<v Speaker 4>they have to finish cooking outside of the womb basically,

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<v Speaker 4>and it shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Was your mom there with you and helping you in

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 3>the beginning, Yes, my mom, My mom was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that was that very helpful to you.

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<v Speaker 4>It was so helpful. And at the same time, it's like,

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 4>your mom is there, so it's so helpful and it's

0:24:55.200 --> 0:24:58.959
<v Speaker 4>so hard, and then they leave and you're like who

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 4>But then you watch them walk away and you're like sobbing.

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 4>It's just very complicated, you know.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Ye, Yeah, your mom is present on my Instagram page

0:25:06.880 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:10.639
<v Speaker 3>I noticed her comments a lot, so we've cultivated an

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 3>online friendship.

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 4>How does she what does she say?

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:16.080
<v Speaker 3>That's none of your business, Rosebudden, It's really none of

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:16.640
<v Speaker 3>your business.

0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.120
<v Speaker 4>Is she? Is she so supportive? Is she like, oh.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 3>She's a sweetheart? Yeah, she seems I she's somebody. I'm

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:27.439
<v Speaker 3>interested in her. I love parents. I'm always interested in parents,

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.280
<v Speaker 3>and she seems like she's off in the right kind

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:29.640
<v Speaker 3>of way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, she really is. She's the most earnest person. It's

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<v Speaker 4>crazy that I came from her. I'm always just like,

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.440
<v Speaker 4>how am I your daughter? She's like a golden retriever

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.400
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like the angel of Death and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I know, it's very funny. Isn't that so interesting?

0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 4>It's so odd to me?

0:25:47.560 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 3>My mother was so shy. My mother was so demure,

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 3>she was like ladylike, and she was horrified by me

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:55.359
<v Speaker 3>in my presence.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, what are you are you? Are you

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a man?

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<v Speaker 4>Like? What? What is that? Like?

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<v Speaker 3>She had never seen a girl talk like me, or

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.680
<v Speaker 3>act like me, or be so like a loud mouth.

0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:08.920
<v Speaker 3>And my mom was always just in like, not disgusted

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:12.480
<v Speaker 3>or repelled, more like shocked than I was of her.

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Like She's like.

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>How did you come out of me?

0:26:15.359 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I don't know, bitch, but I'm here

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and let's get down to business. And she was just

0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 3>I remember she once found something like I guess it

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 3>was a hair, I mean, something gross in her salad.

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 3>We were at the Olive Garden in New Jersey and

0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>that was already you know, traumatizing growing up by an

0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:37.160
<v Speaker 3>olive garden. And when she found the hair in her salad,

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.879
<v Speaker 3>I remember calling the waitress over to get rid of

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.439
<v Speaker 3>the salad and my mom was like, no, no, and

0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.679
<v Speaker 3>I was like, nine, I'm excuse me she found a

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 3>hair and my mom was like, no, no, it's okay,

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 3>don't say anything, don't say anything. I was like, I

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.199
<v Speaker 3>was like advocating for her. And I realized then I

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 3>was like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, we are not on the same page at all.

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.639
<v Speaker 3>But it's so interesting to see that, Like, I wonder

0:26:57.640 --> 0:26:58.680
<v Speaker 3>how that will be with minnow.

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, she's gonna be a reflection of you and

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>or the complete opposite of you.

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:05.880
<v Speaker 4>I know, I wonder about that too. I'm really curious

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 4>to find out. My mom and I we went on

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, I took her to Italy on a trip

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:10.439
<v Speaker 4>while I was pregnant.

0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, how was that?

0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 4>It was so funny because here I am, I'm like,

0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:17.199
<v Speaker 4>I'm in my second trimester. I'm walking around Italy with

0:27:17.240 --> 0:27:20.480
<v Speaker 4>my mother, and my mom is she's a painter. So

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:24.679
<v Speaker 4>she stops at every painting and reads the museum placard

0:27:25.200 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 4>and sort of takes it in and breaks it down

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:32.720
<v Speaker 4>and cries softly cries, and then comes to me while

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.120
<v Speaker 4>she's crying and explains the meaning of the painting, right,

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:40.159
<v Speaker 4>And each time I can't summon the feeling each time,

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, it's like the Duomo. There's like,

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 4>we spent all day in there, and I at the

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 4>end of the day, we went out to dinner and

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 4>I was kind of like fed up, right, and she

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 4>she she was like, what's the matter, and I said,

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>I was like, it's just, you know, there's not enough

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 4>hours in the day for the amount of crying that

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 4>you got to do. I can't. And of course she

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 4>starts to tear up, and she's like, well, do you

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 4>just want me to pretend like I don't care? And

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 4>I was like, yes, yes, I want you to pretend

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.200
<v Speaker 4>like you don't care, just for a just for an hour, please,

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.679
<v Speaker 4>And so it became like a joke. Each time we

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>walked by a painting, she'd be like, I mean, who

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 4>gives a shit?

0:28:22.359 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, but now look at you.

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 3>You're like, karma just landed on your doorstep, because now

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 3>you're crying all the time.

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.119
<v Speaker 4>I know. I'm like, God, damn it, I've.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 3>Been seeing that happen a lot lately, like karma working

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 3>in real time. Like even if I think like a

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.560
<v Speaker 3>nasty thought about someone, something will bite me right away

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.040
<v Speaker 3>or I trip right away, and I'm like, oh, I go,

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 3>I might I must be so close to the surface

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 3>of like especially when it happens to other people too.

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:49.000
<v Speaker 3>I was skiing the other day with this elderly woman

0:28:49.040 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 3>and she was a cunt, and she was like, I

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 3>think she was trying to rap. I didn't even want

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 3>to go skiing with her, but a friend of a friend.

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And then and then she blamed me, like she was

0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 3>so unpleasant anyway, I was like, why am I spending

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>my day with her? And then she started she was

0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>kind of racing me. And this is a woman in

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>her older sixties, and I'm like, she is she.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Racing to me right now?

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, am I Am I racing an elderly

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 3>And I started to step it up and I was

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 3>like going to race her back. And then I stopped

0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 3>myself and said, no, no, this is so silly, stop it.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>What are you doing? And then she wiped out.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.760
<v Speaker 3>She wiped out so badly, and I couldn't help but laugh.

0:29:25.040 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like that you had that coming. That is karma.

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>In a second.

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>You're sitting here trying to race someone on a mountain.

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 3>We're not racing, we're not fucking in the Olympics. We're

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.160
<v Speaker 3>just on a regular day. So I kind of I've

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 3>been noticing that a lot lately, karma in real time,

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>and I'm enjoying it even when it happens to myself,

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 3>because it's a reminder, like, you know, you don't have

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.840
<v Speaker 3>to like even if you have a negative thought about someone,

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 3>like you don't have to say it every single time.

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to emote it, and sometimes it's better

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 3>to leave it inside. So I like it as a

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 3>reminder personally, and I like seeing it happen to others.

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, although I do like when I have a negative

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>thought just texting it to someone immediately. I love. I

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 4>do love to.

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 2>That's what Matteo is. That's what Matteo is for.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's my receptacle for negative thoughts, I know, or

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>if I'm if I'm having a moment of shade and froud,

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like to share that. He's a good audience

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>for that.

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 4>He's perfect for it.

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I know, he's ridiculous.

0:30:22.080 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes Matteo will just text me a name and I'll

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 4>just write pass.

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll be right back.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're back. All right, Catherine, what the fuck is happening?

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:41.320
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>We have some parenting questions well, some having babies questions

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 5>because I figured they'd be perfect for you.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Perfect. That's my wheelhouse.

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 5>We've got some DNA questions. We've got a whole bunch

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 5>of crazy questions. Dating, also dating. Her first question comes

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.880
<v Speaker 5>from Janine. She says, Dear Chelsea, I'm struggling with a

0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 5>decision right now. I cannot decide whether or not to

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 5>find the identity of my biological grandfather. My father has

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 5>wanted to know who he is ever since he was

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 5>a boy and found out that my Grandpa was not

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 5>his biological dad. My grandmother refuses to tell him. In

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 5>a recent twist, we found out via DNA test that

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 5>his quote cousin is actually his complete biological sister. He

0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 5>confronted my grandmother about it and now they aren't speaking.

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 5>The problem is my grandmother is obsessed with her image

0:31:30.080 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 5>and her social standing, not to mention, she's a total

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 5>bitch to my dad every chance she gets. My father's

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 5>half siblings have no idea about any of this. This

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 5>has left a huge hole in my dad's life. He's

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 5>always been so good to me, especially when I came

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.640
<v Speaker 5>out being a lesbian when I was a teenager.

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>I really want to find out.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 5>For him, but I don't want to overstep his boundaries

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 5>or risk any more fighting than we already have on

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 5>that side of the family.

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 1>What do you think I should do, Jinine.

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 3>I think you should just go for it. Don't worry

0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 3>about all the drama. If you don't participate in drama,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you're not part of the drama. Your dad wants to

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 3>know where he's from, go help him, and forget about

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 3>your grandmother, like that's her own problem. Let her deal

0:32:07.480 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 3>with her own emotions, and you do the right thing

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 3>for your dad, which sounds like he wants that too,

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think that's a I think.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a no brainer.

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 3>I think everyone gets caught up in all the drama.

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 3>You don't have to participate in drama. You can just

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.400
<v Speaker 3>do your thing and then extricate yourself from the situation

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.600
<v Speaker 3>and let everything. Let the chips fall where they may,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 3>as they say, Rosebud your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree. I feel like people's opinions about you are

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<v Speaker 4>none of your business, and if you want to help

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<v Speaker 4>out your dad, go for it and let the chips

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<v Speaker 4>fall where they may. Like you said, like, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>just see what happens. You know, you could just sit

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<v Speaker 4>back and watch. You could enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sit back exactly, Sit back, get some popcorn, and

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 3>just enjoy enjoy other people floundering.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But also the other thing is like your grandmother's saying,

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.400
<v Speaker 3>your grandmother's really protective over her image.

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<v Speaker 2>That's no one's problem but hers.

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's her right.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Feed into other people's pretend lives, pretentiousness, or their image,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, like that's that is their deal, and they

0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.160
<v Speaker 3>need to deal with that because the truth is what

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 3>the truth is, and that's going to affect them.

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>However, it's gonna affect them.

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<v Speaker 4>Worst case scenario, what she has to accept who she

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<v Speaker 4>actually is at the end of her life. That sounds

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<v Speaker 4>like a pretty good payoff to me.

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I agree with you, actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The other thing is like I don't think you have

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<v Speaker 5>to advertise it, Like, just because you and your dad

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<v Speaker 5>are going to find this out, there's already plenty of

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<v Speaker 5>secrets that everybody else doesn't know about.

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, if you don't want to advertise, they don't have to.

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when you're not in the argument, there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>argue about. Like, as long as you don't subscribe to it,

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>it's it diffuses, like if someone's yelling at you and

0:33:43.080 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 3>you're not saying anything back, eventually they're going to walk

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 3>away because there's nothing to argue about.

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 4>Right agreed?

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 3>Anyway, Wise words from the sagacious Chelsea joy Handler.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move on to the next question.

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<v Speaker 5>Moving on, Lauren says, Dear Chelsea, modern dating is hard

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 5>between the apps and meeting in person. It's all fun

0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 5>and games until it's just the games. I'd love your

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:08.320
<v Speaker 5>advice on when it's time to bring up what someone's

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 5>intentions are.

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I know it may seem.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 5>Silly, like I could just be honest and ask someone,

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<v Speaker 5>But what I really mean is when you're dating someone

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<v Speaker 5>and you see potential but also don't want it to

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<v Speaker 5>be just another hookup or friends with benefit situation, how

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 5>do you casually bring this up without sounding crazy or

0:34:23.600 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 5>that you're trying to tie them down? And I don't

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 5>know if there's an answer to this, but how many

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<v Speaker 5>days before you sleep with someone that you see potential

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 5>with I'm no prude, but I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 5>just another notch in someone's bed.

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<v Speaker 1>Post.

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<v Speaker 5>This back and forth with men walking in and out

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 5>of my life makes me wonder if I will ever

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<v Speaker 5>find someone that will stick around. One guy told me

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 5>he's ready to settle down, and then days later I

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<v Speaker 5>see him back on the dating apps looking for a

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 5>long term relationship and monogamy. The one after him, I

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.759
<v Speaker 5>found out was a former cop that's sexually assaulted a

0:34:50.800 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 5>girl and has to register it as a sex offender.

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<v Speaker 1>So, as you can tell, dating is quite.

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<v Speaker 5>The learning experience, which is why I'd like your advice.

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<v Speaker 5>Any advice would be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Lauren.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Lauren, Hi Lauren, Hi, good morning.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 6>How are you.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>We're good? Thank you. This is Rose about our special

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>guest today.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi Lauren.

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<v Speaker 2>She's a dating expert, so you're in good hands.

0:35:10.840 --> 0:35:14.680
<v Speaker 6>That's perfect. Nice to meet you. Good to see Catherine.

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 4>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, there's a bunch of fucking assholes out there, but

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 3>that goes for women and men. And like, the dating

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 3>scene is so up and down and you shouldn't follow

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:26.160
<v Speaker 3>any set of rules, is my personal opinion. You need

0:35:26.200 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 3>to listen to your gut and you need to listen

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 3>to like what you're interested in. Also, I feel like

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:35.239
<v Speaker 3>so many times as young women, we are so programmed

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<v Speaker 3>to try to discern if the guy likes us, if

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 3>the guy wants to be with us. When's the right

0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.040
<v Speaker 3>time to sleep with him so that he'll speak to

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<v Speaker 3>us again and.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll still and he won't he'll still respect us. It's like,

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 2>what do you want? What do you like? What are

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you attracted to?

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<v Speaker 3>That we kind of marginalize our own feelings in exchange

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<v Speaker 3>for what we want to do to please men. And

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 3>I think you have to take it always back to yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you like? You know, when do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep with someone?

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<v Speaker 3>There is no prescription of when it's a perfect timing,

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 3>because if you meet a guy who's great and you

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:08.600
<v Speaker 3>have chemistry and you both like each other, you could

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>slip together right away and then spend the rest of

0:36:10.400 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 3>your life together.

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<v Speaker 2>Possibly.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no like, oh if I wait ten days and

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna respect me more. I mean, I don't buy

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<v Speaker 3>into any of that. I think there you know, you know,

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 3>when you have chemistry with somebody, and I think setting

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 3>your intention as early as you want is fine, then

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>you're weeding out anybody who's going to waste your time.

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 3>You know why you don't have to wait five days

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<v Speaker 3>so because you're gonna scare them off. There's a way

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<v Speaker 3>to say what you're looking for without being desperate about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a way to say, hey, how old are you?

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 6>I'm twenty eight.

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, there's a way to say, hey, I'm twenty eight.

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I've dated a lot. I'm ready for whatever your history is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm ready for something a little bit more substantial. So

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure we're on the same

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<v Speaker 3>page even before you go out on a date. You know,

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 3>it may change after you go out on a date

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 3>and they'll say, you know, what they say may not

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 3>be true afterward. But all you can do is be honest,

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.360
<v Speaker 3>outbound with your and your feelings, and then you're clean,

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.440
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like, you're not playing games,

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:08.120
<v Speaker 3>you're not doing anything wrong. Even if the first five

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:12.040
<v Speaker 3>guys you might be interested in aren't reciprocating that or

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>don't end up being in your life. You have a

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 3>clear conscience because you're being very, very direct and kind

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:22.720
<v Speaker 3>of self actualized about what you want, so to speak.

0:37:22.760 --> 0:37:25.719
<v Speaker 3>And I always think that reaps more dividends than anything else,

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<v Speaker 3>because then nobody can get confused.

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<v Speaker 2>You're clear, then they're clear.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely, No. I think that's really good advice. And

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 6>I think I mean, I have been dating a lot

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<v Speaker 6>and I like to be very upfront and direct, but

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.359
<v Speaker 6>sometimes I feel like, you know, I may get one

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 6>response and then their true color show later on. I

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 6>just feel like I keep running into these like situationships.

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.120
<v Speaker 6>It seems like it's like this modern dating, whether it's

0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:54.239
<v Speaker 6>the apps or in person, and it's like it's exhausting,

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, and that's part of dating. And I get

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<v Speaker 6>all of that, but I think it's hard to kind

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<v Speaker 6>of find that sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>I think when you are like if you just do

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:07.919
<v Speaker 4>what if you do what Chelsea does or what she's

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 4>promoting you do, which I think she also does in

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 4>her personal life. Is like if you just say this

0:38:15.200 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 4>is where I'm at, this is what I want. It

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 4>might not you might not be the right person for this,

0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 4>but this is what I want. And if you're not

0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 4>the right person for this, maybe we should go separate

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 4>ways now. And they say no, no, no, I am

0:38:28.560 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 4>this is what I want. This is you know, because men,

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.080
<v Speaker 4>they're a lot of times I've noticed in my own

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 4>dating history that they'll lie and say something that they

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.879
<v Speaker 4>think I want to hear the same way that I've

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 4>bent myself into different shapes hoping that I don't scare

0:38:43.440 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 4>them off. So I think we're all kind of like

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 4>programmed to do this to one another. But once you

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:52.360
<v Speaker 4>get that information of like, oh he was lying because

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 4>he thought this is what I wanted to hear, and

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 4>you you just go, Okay, that's all the information I need.

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:00.560
<v Speaker 4>I can move on to the next one. And you

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 4>don't get discouraged by that. I think that's a really

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 4>helpful attitude to have, of like, you have time, you

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, you have all the time in

0:39:08.600 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 4>the world. So to just say, like, all right, Like

0:39:12.760 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 4>when I met my now husband, I was we had

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 4>slept together on the first.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:20.240
<v Speaker 2>Night, I ainal they did ANAL.

0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 4>We did ANAL on the first night. Yeah, when I

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:26.800
<v Speaker 4>say slept together, it was hardcore anal. And and then

0:39:27.320 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 4>and I said to him like, look, I don't know

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 4>if you're the right person for me, but I do

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 4>know that I want to get married. So if you

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 4>aren't into that idea, we should start dating other people.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 4>And he was like, well, I don't want to date

0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:46.920
<v Speaker 4>other people. And I said, okay, well, then you know

0:39:46.960 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 4>where I stand and you know where I'm at, and

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 4>if this gets serious, I just want you to know

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 4>I want to get married. So that's where I'm at,

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 4>and we can just keep going on as if this

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.240
<v Speaker 4>conversation never even happened. But just know that's where I stand,

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:02.919
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>And know that the conversation did happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah, and then it ended up working out. But

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<v Speaker 4>like I wasn't even sure that he was the guy

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 4>for me when I told him that. I just knew

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:16.880
<v Speaker 4>that that was what I wanted. So yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 4>like I had to put my own shame and feelings

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<v Speaker 4>about how he would feel about it totally aside. Like

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.480
<v Speaker 4>I had to be like, I don't care what your

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 4>reaction is to this. In fact, the more honest your reaction,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 4>the more information for me I can move forward just

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 4>by watching you react to this.

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<v Speaker 6>So I think that's a good way being true to

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.399
<v Speaker 6>yourself and where you stand with things and how they

0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.320
<v Speaker 6>react is going to determine you know how or whether

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.839
<v Speaker 6>you move forward with them. And it's almost better knowing

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 6>it that way than finding out maybe later on when

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 6>it fizzles out.

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<v Speaker 3>But they also the other thing is is like women,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in your twenties and your thirties, before you really

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 3>are like fortified in your self worth. I mean, you

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 3>seem like you have some self worth, so I like

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 3>to see that. But I also would like to say,

0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 3>like that is a practice. You have to practice your

0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:08.760
<v Speaker 3>self worth, and by announcing to these guys or having

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 3>real adult conversations is a constant cementing of your self worth,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 3>saying this is what I'm interested in, and if you're not,

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 3>that's fine too, but like, let's just be on the

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 3>same page.

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 2>And conversely, if the opposite.

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 3>Were true, I just had a conversation with a guy

0:41:21.800 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 3>where I'm like, listen, there's nothing serious happening here.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:25.799
<v Speaker 2>This is wintertime.

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 3>I like having sex when I'm skiing and a lot

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.439
<v Speaker 3>of fun, and it's over when.

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 2>I leave in March.

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:35.919
<v Speaker 3>And he was like, wow, that's pretty harsh. I go, well,

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:37.759
<v Speaker 3>you can take it as harsh, but that's where I am.

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 3>If it's not going to be you, it's going to

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 3>be another guy. I didn't say that part to him,

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 3>but that's what I was thinking, Like, yeah, you can

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>sign up for this program or but I'm never going

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 3>to be deceptive.

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm never going to pretend.

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know, like if it does get serious, great,

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 3>but that's not my intention.

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to get serious.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I think that works in all ways because

0:41:57.840 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 3>it's just a good reminder to yourself to always say

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:03.880
<v Speaker 3>your truth, especially when dating, when guys can be you know,

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 3>these dating sites are filled with tons of assholes, so

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:08.400
<v Speaker 3>you just have to know that going in. So it's like,

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you get one good guy out of

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 3>ten dates, then that's what's out there. You know, every

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 3>ten dates you're gonna find somebody. Oh that's actually a potential,

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:18.399
<v Speaker 3>but you know, if that's what you're after, that's kind

0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>of what you have to do these days.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And just know that nothing is.

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Personal, Like who cares if someone doesn't like you move

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 3>on to the next guy. There are millions, billions of

0:42:28.400 --> 0:42:32.600
<v Speaker 3>men out there. Yeah, so just keep that and practice

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:34.080
<v Speaker 3>the art of like self respect.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 5>I think also there's an element of separating like could

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 5>this be something in the future and do you eventually

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:44.560
<v Speaker 5>want a long term relationship slash marriage whatever? And being exclusive,

0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 5>like I think you can find out if that's where

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:49.120
<v Speaker 5>someone's end goal is that they want, you know, a

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:52.360
<v Speaker 5>long term relationship and not necessarily be like we're a

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.000
<v Speaker 5>boyfriend and girlfriend. We don't see anybody else right now,

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 5>until like you actually feel like you want that with

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:58.760
<v Speaker 5>that person, right.

0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and that's that's where I think, like what's hard

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 6>and you know, whether it's on the apps or just

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 6>in person, you know, when you start consistently seeing someone,

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:10.279
<v Speaker 6>like when do you kind of define the relationship and

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.800
<v Speaker 6>whin do you Whether it's not that I'm trying to

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 6>get married tomorrow, but you know, when you finally meet

0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 6>someone you would like to, you know, see where things go,

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 6>it turns into this when do you have that conversation

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:27.760
<v Speaker 6>and still staying true to yourself. But at that point that's.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you have to know that they're the guy.

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.200
<v Speaker 4>You can also be clear like I'm not even sure

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 4>if this is you. You can say like I don't

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 4>know if it's you that I'm talking about, but I

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 4>know that this is what I'm looking for.

0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I like that a lot.

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you're not it, that's okay, I'm not I'm

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 4>just having this conversation for me because i want to

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 4>be clear about my intentions.

0:43:51.920 --> 0:43:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like that.

0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 2>That's good.

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>And also you know, like everyone is always looking for

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.839
<v Speaker 3>a timeline, Like it's different for every relationship. When you're

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 3>post to you know, sometimes it's mutual. Sometimes it's them,

0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:06.360
<v Speaker 3>sometimes it's you, and not trying to control the outcome

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 3>of something before it begins is a nicer, easier way

0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 3>to go through everything, you know, not trying to say, okay,

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 3>by six months, I have to be engaged. But this

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.720
<v Speaker 3>is like that kind of hard line thinking doesn't allow

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.239
<v Speaker 3>for fun and spur of the moment, like a jouis

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 3>de vie that you kind of want to implement into

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 3>your dating life. Because you are only twenty eight, you

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.839
<v Speaker 3>could have like three or four loves before you meet

0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:31.720
<v Speaker 3>the guy you know you could have, and like, wouldn't

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 3>you want that?

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>I want that for you.

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.240
<v Speaker 3>I want you to have a lot of different guys

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.760
<v Speaker 3>to like experience, so that when you're ready to really

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.600
<v Speaker 3>ready to settle down, you settle down. And that could

0:44:40.600 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 3>be your intention the whole time, but it's nice to have,

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, the more experience you get, the better.

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, Yeah.

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:50.720
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, definitely. I think through dating it's like I'm figuring

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 6>out more of the things that I don't want and

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 6>honestly more about myself and what I do. So I

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:58.120
<v Speaker 6>think that's a good way to look at it, not

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.600
<v Speaker 6>rushing things and just kind of you know, going with

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 6>the flow a little bit and having some fun.

0:45:03.520 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and having fun right, Like, some people aren't going

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 3>to be your boyfriends. They're just going to be like

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 3>a casual guy for two months, and that's fun as

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 3>long as you're not you know, it has to end

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 3>with this result, Like you can have fun with all

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 3>sorts of different people in different ways.

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, men do it, and you know, I feel

0:45:21.080 --> 0:45:22.279
<v Speaker 2>like not enough women do that.

0:45:22.640 --> 0:45:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not the same standard.

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 4>It needs to be about our pleasure. If they're not

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.520
<v Speaker 4>going to make it their number one priority, then we

0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 4>have to, you know what I mean. And I feel

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 4>like we have to anyway, regardless of what they do.

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:37.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I spent so many times in my

0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 3>twenties and thirties, a little bit in my thirties faking orgasms,

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.600
<v Speaker 3>faking like just pleasing men. I mean, and now I'm like,

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't even give a shit if you come, just

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 3>go down on me and we'll talk about it if

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>this leads to something else, Like I.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Am so selfish now I don't even.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Fucking care, you know, Like that it's a complete role

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:59.640
<v Speaker 3>reversal of the way I was in my twenties. So yeah,

0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 3>just from remember that when you sit down with a man,

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:02.640
<v Speaker 3>do you like him?

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 4>Not?

0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Does he like you?

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 5>On that first second third date, like you know, ask

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.560
<v Speaker 5>yourself like is he even worth having? The sort of

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 5>like DTR defining the relationship dog with and the answer map.

0:46:12.640 --> 0:46:14.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, on the first second third date and then

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>you're on the next year.

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow, DTR. That was quick, Catherine. Is that some lingo

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 2>that I don't know about? DTR?

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>The DTR?

0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Have the DTR sounds like d M e T D

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>five d M e O T which is frog venom.

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I've been haled have the DTR. Okay, well, we're gonna

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 2>send you off.

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Good luck with everything, and remember self worth, self value,

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 3>self respect, start there.

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 2>And then move on out. Thank you.

0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.400
<v Speaker 6>Well, I'm excited you're coming to LA I'm going to

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:40.640
<v Speaker 6>try to make it out to your show.

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, the YouTube theater May eleventh. That's going to

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>be a fun show. Yes come.

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for all of your guys' advice.

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:51.200
<v Speaker 6>I'll definitely keep it in mind as I continue the process.

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, good luck and I'm sure you'll be very successful.

0:46:55.040 --> 0:46:58.160
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Bye, bye, Laurence, Bye, give me your Doug.

0:46:58.880 --> 0:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to show you Doug. But he's so fucking

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:02.160
<v Speaker 3>big I can't even lift him up. I threw my

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 3>back out yesterday taking him to the dog park. And

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:06.640
<v Speaker 3>then I get to the dog park and there was

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:08.839
<v Speaker 3>this guy who's like, there's a massive dog.

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>And he's like, hey, is it okay to take my

0:47:10.440 --> 0:47:12.359
<v Speaker 2>dog off leash? And I'm like, well, it's an awfu

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:12.960
<v Speaker 2>leash dog park?

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 3>So why are you asking? He goes, do you have

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 3>any snacks on you? I go, why what would happen

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 3>if I do?

0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:18.759
<v Speaker 2>I need that full? What's?

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:20.640
<v Speaker 3>And I said what kind of dog is that? He goes, Oh,

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.960
<v Speaker 3>he's half wolf. I'm like, we're leaving half wolf?

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 2>Fuck off?

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 4>That's so La.

0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm in Whistler, so oh.

0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 4>They have they have half wolves in Whistler and I.

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't see wolves in La. Do you Is that allowed?

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 4>I feel like people would find find a loophole out there.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:42.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's actor dogs. You can have I think up

0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:43.320
<v Speaker 5>to a half wolf.

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>I had a neighbor. I'd one neighbor. If you're an actor,

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>well the dog is an actor.

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, actors got to have wolves, but civilians don't.

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even blink an eye if that was the rule.

0:47:57.719 --> 0:48:00.759
<v Speaker 4>I'd be like that, I does that make sense? Yeah?

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is illegal to own a coyote.

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.720
<v Speaker 5>And I also had a neighbor that owned a coyote

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:07.279
<v Speaker 5>and I was like, wow, looks like they're like, yeah, yeah,

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:08.400
<v Speaker 5>don't tell anyone.

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god.

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>You should have reported them right away. I have no

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 2>problem telling on people all the time.

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:14.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:18.959
<v Speaker 5>Well, our last question today comes from r That's it

0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:20.839
<v Speaker 5>r just our, just our.

0:48:21.000 --> 0:48:21.839
<v Speaker 1>We could give her a name.

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 2>It's Rachel, It's me Remedial, It's me Rose, It's.

0:48:26.400 --> 0:48:30.799
<v Speaker 1>From rosebud Hi, Chelsea. I actually could be for you.

0:48:31.400 --> 0:48:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Giving yourself advice. You wrote into yourself so you could

0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:34.760
<v Speaker 2>give your self advice.

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 5>I'm listening to your episode with Elise Loanan and she

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 5>just asked you about pushing through your fears. I love

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 5>this idea under most circumstances, but my fear about having

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 5>a second child seems like one that I'm not sure

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:51.400
<v Speaker 5>is worth pursuing. A little backstory. I got pregnant with

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.719
<v Speaker 5>my daughter in March twenty twenty. Whoops, being a mom

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.520
<v Speaker 5>is all I ever wanted. With all of what twenty

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 5>twenty took from literally everyone, it really cast an insane

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:03.400
<v Speaker 5>toll on my mental health while being pregnant. After my

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:07.440
<v Speaker 5>daughter was born, my postpartum depression and anxiety skyrocketed. I

0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 5>resisted medication at first and was talking to a therapist. Finally,

0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 5>after the darkest year of my life, I got on

0:49:12.640 --> 0:49:15.720
<v Speaker 5>medication and really came into my own I still struggle

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:17.920
<v Speaker 5>here and there, but my daughter is now two and

0:49:17.960 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 5>a half and I'm having the time of my life.

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm terrified of the idea of having a second child.

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:28.440
<v Speaker 5>I'd always wanted multiple kids before, no less than three,

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.600
<v Speaker 5>no more than five. What when I read that now,

0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:34.120
<v Speaker 5>I can't believe I ever said that and really thought

0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 5>that's what I wanted with all my heart. I feel

0:49:36.560 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 5>like a completely different person after what I went through.

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Do I accept the realities of my first experience and

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:44.799
<v Speaker 5>move forward with a new perspective on my future, or

0:49:44.800 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 5>do I push through my fears of having a second

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 5>child because I can trust that I can get through

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.440
<v Speaker 5>the hardship I might endure for longer term. Joy I

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 5>hear your voice saying, don't have a child unless you're

0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.279
<v Speaker 5>one hundred percent positive. But I'm struggling with knowing which

0:49:57.280 --> 0:49:59.799
<v Speaker 5>of my voices to listen to. Thanks for reading are.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think having a second child is pushing through fear.

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 3>When I talk about pushing through fear, I'm talking about

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:10.960
<v Speaker 3>like daring yourself to like do stuff that you're not

0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 3>comfortable with. This fear is actually like based in what

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:19.319
<v Speaker 3>your experience was, like you had a reaction after having

0:50:19.400 --> 0:50:23.959
<v Speaker 3>a child. But I do think that having been through

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.799
<v Speaker 3>it and surviving it, which I know nothing about, I

0:50:26.840 --> 0:50:29.560
<v Speaker 3>want to be very clear, I don't I think once

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 3>you survive something, then it seems a lot more reasonable

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 3>to expect that you will survive it again. So if

0:50:37.080 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 3>having a child is so important to you, I would

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:40.520
<v Speaker 3>say go for it.

0:50:40.719 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't frame it as pushing through your fears.

0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:46.280
<v Speaker 3>I would frame it as getting to the end goal

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 3>of like long term happiness and having the family that

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.719
<v Speaker 3>you even desired many years ago when you wrote down

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:53.920
<v Speaker 3>how many kids you wanted to have. I think that

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.480
<v Speaker 3>you should go for it because you know what it is,

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.959
<v Speaker 3>and while it might not be, it may not even

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:00.960
<v Speaker 3>happen the second time, and what happened to you the

0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 3>first time, and even if it does, you survived it.

0:51:04.640 --> 0:51:07.799
<v Speaker 3>So there's really like if you really want the kid.

0:51:07.840 --> 0:51:10.239
<v Speaker 3>That's the question, do you want a second child? And

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 3>if the answer is yes, I would say, go for it.

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>She survived it, and she's got the tools now too.

0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>It's just that evolution and the therapy.

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Rosebud, what about you, God.

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:23.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, that's just like a hard question for someone

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:28.279
<v Speaker 4>else to answer. I feel like that's such a personal

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:33.319
<v Speaker 4>choice that I don't know, I truly, because I'm in

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 4>the same position where it's like, I mean, I would

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 4>be I don't want a second kid, but it would

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:44.520
<v Speaker 4>be terrifying to me if I did want one, it

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:48.239
<v Speaker 4>would be terrifying to choose to do it. And I

0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:50.520
<v Speaker 4>know what she means by I don't know which voice

0:51:50.520 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 4>to listen to, because that's how I felt before I

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 4>had my first kid, was I was like, I don't

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 4>it's it scared the shit out of me having a kid,

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<v Speaker 4>and for good reason, it is terrify and life changing,

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<v Speaker 4>and you do feel like a totally different person. And

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<v Speaker 4>I think if there's anything that I could say, it's like,

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<v Speaker 4>just take a minute to yourself to really work through

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<v Speaker 4>how much you want this, you know, because if you

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<v Speaker 4>really want this and you're just scared. I agree with Chelsea,

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<v Speaker 4>like you have the tools, you've done it before, you

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<v Speaker 4>can do it again, and if you don't, you'll find

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<v Speaker 4>that out. But I think it's going to take to me.

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds like a little bit like you're still unsure

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<v Speaker 4>just from the question. So I would say it's okay

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<v Speaker 4>to let to give time time and to just figure

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<v Speaker 4>out how badly you want this, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's really what it comes down to, is like

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<v Speaker 4>how badly you want it. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>that's an answer, but it's it's hard to answer a

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<v Speaker 4>question that's like such a personal choice, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and also sit with yourself, whether you meditate or not,

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<v Speaker 3>sit alone quietly. Like women, we have like a total

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<v Speaker 3>intuition and a total knowing when we actually allow ourselves

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<v Speaker 3>to like be very still, be very quiet and think

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<v Speaker 3>is this something that you're going to do? And your

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<v Speaker 3>body is going to tell you like you have to

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you really have to kind of get in

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<v Speaker 3>touch with yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not that hard. We have such strong intuitions

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<v Speaker 2>within ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say to like really try to listen to

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<v Speaker 3>yourself and really just like sit with yourself for like

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<v Speaker 3>fifteen minutes every morning, just with your eyes closed and

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about what this means to you and if you're

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<v Speaker 3>ready and if you're ready to take this on, and

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you that you are.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, And you know, I think if you're not

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<v Speaker 5>ready to move forward right now, you know, like Rosebud said,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not a question that has to be answered today,

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<v Speaker 5>but part of what keeps us spinning is not having

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<v Speaker 5>made the decision. So maybe just like put a pin

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<v Speaker 5>in it, be like, you know what, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 5>make a decision on this. I'm giving letting myself off

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<v Speaker 5>the hook for the next six months and then like

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<v Speaker 5>literally put on your calendar six months from now or

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<v Speaker 5>three months or a year or whatever. You think, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let's dive into this again. Let's think about this again,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, give yourself a little bit of a break.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think with I was like torturing myself with

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<v Speaker 4>the question for so long about whether or not I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to have a kid, and I think when I

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<v Speaker 4>finally did get pregnant, I thought, well, this is terrifying.

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<v Speaker 4>And while I'm very scared, I want this more than

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<v Speaker 4>I am scared of it, and I wanted there was

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<v Speaker 4>something even about the fear that intrigued me, So I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, I want to go into this just to

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<v Speaker 4>see what it does to me. I want to, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to be changed, and I want to experience

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<v Speaker 4>all of this, even if it's horrifying. And that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of makes the fear not something to be avoided, but

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<v Speaker 4>something that you can kind of dive in two and explode.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's well said Rosebud.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, well we're gonna take a break and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>come back to wrap things up. And we're back to

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<v Speaker 3>wrap things up with Rosebud Baker, Rosebud, what do you

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<v Speaker 3>have to say for yourself after the today's episode?

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<v Speaker 4>Just that I love you and this was fun and

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<v Speaker 4>I can't wait to see you again. It's been way

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<v Speaker 4>too long.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get an apartment in New York. I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>waiting for my wrap. Yeah, totally. I tried to get

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<v Speaker 3>one but then someone else got it, so but I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 3>I need to live in New York for sure, so

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<v Speaker 3>I will see you at some point. And I can't

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<v Speaker 3>wait to see you either.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you need to come to New York. It feels

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<v Speaker 4>like everyone in LA's brain is melting. It's so scary

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<v Speaker 4>it guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a real no, there's a real lack of stimulation

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<v Speaker 3>in La.

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<v Speaker 4>Something's going on over there. It's dark.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Rosebud.

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<v Speaker 3>You are always a delight, Catherine. Thank you everyone who

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<v Speaker 3>called in. Thank you, and thank you to our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Good times, good times, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having you.

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<v Speaker 2>Chilse okay, take care of Resbude. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Chelsea Handler is my name, and comedy is my game.

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<v Speaker 3>Comedy and therapy. There are my games. I'm sorry I misspoke.

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<v Speaker 3>I have added more shows. I added a second show

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<v Speaker 3>in Vancouver, so I have two shows in Vancouver March

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<v Speaker 3>twenty ninth March thirtieth, I am coming to Calgary, Victoria, Colowna.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I've added another show in Sydney, Australia on July thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have two shows in Sydney July twelfth and thirteenth.

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<v Speaker 3>For other shows in Australia and New Zealand, go to

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<v Speaker 3>Chelseahandler dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've added two.

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<v Speaker 3>Shows in Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma on May third, and one

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<v Speaker 3>in Thackerville, Oklahoma, which is May fourth, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be at the YouTube Theater May eleventh and Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 3>with Matteo Laine and Vanessa Gonzalez and Fortune Fimester and

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<v Speaker 3>Sam Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are my updates and no more shows are coming,

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<v Speaker 2>so pay attention.

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