Speaker 1: What's up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your
Speaker 1: loat glasses, Malone. My thing always was with doing videos
Speaker 1: is the quality of it all. Like one thing that
Speaker 1: happened to me is I became like a quality junkie.
Speaker 1: The more I got into like fucking with records and
Speaker 1: making records and making them sound good, you start being
Speaker 1: hella like extra on quality. I remember Doctor Dre like
Speaker 1: being in there with him and him saying how long
Speaker 1: it was taking him to make records, thinking to myself like, man,
Speaker 1: take you that goddamn long. It don't take that long
Speaker 1: till I start understanding what making records was about. And yeah,
Speaker 1: take that loan. So that's to me how I feel
Speaker 1: like with like, yeah, like all our pods we have
Speaker 1: video portions, but they look like shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like do I really want to present that
Speaker 1: to somebody that because people got high regards for our podcast,
Speaker 1: Like honestly, people really be like, man, y'all, especially when
Speaker 1: me and you talk, even when me and the girls
Speaker 1: just talking, it's like there's these you could tell we
Speaker 1: explore different parts of the you know, the the cave
Speaker 1: that we call life and from a different perspective, So
Speaker 1: I feel like the video shit represent the same thing too. Sure, sure,
Speaker 1: so it don't make it no easier, and that's what
Speaker 1: be happening.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably possible because I just don't like
Speaker 2: the look of regardless of the quality of the medium,
Speaker 2: like say, second for mind, like you're in a studio,
Speaker 2: so it looks a lot more professional, you know, when
Speaker 2: if you have a decent quality you know, interface or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't like the look of like having my just
Speaker 2: my apartment behind me, But I would guess unless there
Speaker 2: was unless somebody walked about with a leaf blower, which
Speaker 2: wouldn't be very likely because usually we do stuff in
Speaker 2: the evening. Yeah, and it's quiet. If I sat outside
Speaker 2: with my back to the balcony behind me, I don't
Speaker 2: think that there's enough enclosure there to where it would
Speaker 2: get that same echoy problem. Yeah, I could probably be
Speaker 2: all right because I could just set up because I
Speaker 2: really do think it would be all right to set
Speaker 2: up with like either cocktail cigar or cocktail coffee cigar
Speaker 2: and then just have like space and a distant building
Speaker 2: behind me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could dig it. I could dig what you're saying.
Speaker 2: As opposed to like just the wall of the other
Speaker 2: side of the apartment.
Speaker 1: Well, what's crazy, is right, is this is the crazy part.
Speaker 1: The crazy part is it's like, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: so much the production space that people be looking for
Speaker 1: a dog. To me, it's more like like to me,
Speaker 1: it's more like a people want to see at least
Speaker 1: it's clear, gotcha, Okay, you know what I mean? People,
Speaker 1: I think that the bare minimum standard, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean a visual is probably ten ADP. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't know if everybody tripping off
Speaker 1: of it being four k let alone ak and all
Speaker 1: that futuristic shit, but for sure they want that shit
Speaker 1: ten ADP.
Speaker 2: That's why I like, I want, like ideally to be
Speaker 2: able to have something that I could use on the
Speaker 2: phone where I could prop up and use the good
Speaker 2: camera part of the phone you post to the laptop
Speaker 2: camera on an old back book, you know.
Speaker 1: Well standard the thing is like at home right now,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of new live streams popping up every day.
Speaker 1: But there's a group of them, the homies pun Real
Speaker 1: ad all the homies, Ice Boys, all of them got
Speaker 1: this whole fig Munity World thing, and they're using streaming cameras.
Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, I don't think the quality
Speaker 1: on the on the cams are excellent, but they're good
Speaker 1: enough to where you can see all the corners of
Speaker 1: the room. So they they got some kind of definition,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They not like no pug
Speaker 1: ass cameras like they some shit. So I'm thinking we
Speaker 1: have to go into a space like that eventually. But
Speaker 1: even moving forward, like I think this year we'll have
Speaker 1: like two hundred podcasts total. I mean like it's for
Speaker 1: a week. No, we have two hundred total, Like we
Speaker 1: can call to our two hundred addition, I mean, excuse me,
Speaker 1: our two hundred episode. So I notice everybody who hears
Speaker 1: it thinks is really good. Well, most people don't know
Speaker 1: why I have a podcast because they can't see it.
Speaker 1: And you know, again, when I first started looking at podcasts,
Speaker 1: it wasn't about like you know, seeing it. Like it
Speaker 1: was for like more to like talk radio, like intelligent
Speaker 1: people to listen to. But obviously now you put all
Speaker 1: of these videos in it because and you've got all
Speaker 1: these retarded conversations happening parted as people.
Speaker 2: I mean like I'm not gonna lie like that. I
Speaker 2: watched probably a few hours because I don't have cable,
Speaker 2: but I have a bunch of streaming things, like one
Speaker 2: of those Amazon TVs, So I do watch a good
Speaker 2: amount of like like Rumble channels or YouTube channels. I
Speaker 2: don't watch YouTube channels. Sometimes there's interviews specifically that I
Speaker 2: know happened that I want to watch on YouTube, but
Speaker 2: by and large there's like daily shows of different people
Speaker 2: that'll do whatever on there. Yeah, I think that there's
Speaker 2: still space to dive into that, to dive into Rumble,
Speaker 2: because there's still they're still in that kind of build
Speaker 2: out phase. And there are people who've gotten kicked off
Speaker 2: of YouTube permanently, like a big name people who's the
Speaker 2: white guy with the stringy hair, the British guy.
Speaker 1: The British guy with stringing here, super famous.
Speaker 2: Fuck, I'm a big fan of his, super like like
Speaker 2: very very famous guy. But he's like either permanently kicked
Speaker 2: off YouTube or has to or does like fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: of YouTube and then forty five remaining on Rumble because
Speaker 2: should they talk about get howd of profile You're done?
Speaker 2: Steven Crowder done. There's all kinds of guys that you
Speaker 2: think you say anything about I mean, you could say
Speaker 2: something about Palestine, You're done. You say something about trans people,
Speaker 2: You're done. You say something about all sorts of shit,
Speaker 2: and YouTube's like yanking people off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but going definitely into next season,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if we committed to it,
Speaker 1: if I'm going, if I'm committed to it, like I
Speaker 1: gotta start figuring out a visual component, because I think
Speaker 1: we're out of space now to where we all comfortable.
Speaker 1: Like I think I think that's the point. Like at first,
Speaker 1: I wasn't rushing to get the visual component. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: we're not even comfortable doing podcasts. And now I think
Speaker 1: we're in the space now to where we can even
Speaker 1: miss sometimes but we jump right back into it and
Speaker 1: pretty much hammer it like it's almost second nature at
Speaker 1: this point. So I've been really working on visually how
Speaker 1: we're gonna execute this. I mean, but you know, we'll
Speaker 1: figure that shit out. Ain't nothing I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you. No seilings first off, no sillings, gl well.
Speaker 2: That other part's not gonna be in the show.
Speaker 1: All this's gonna be in the show.
Speaker 2: All of that just right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people love this podcast, you know, it's funny. Podcast
Speaker 1: is all about people you figuring out shit.
Speaker 2: If anybody has the impetus to do me a favor
Speaker 2: and write in the comments. Yeah, if you're interested in
Speaker 2: our pontification about the visual Peter, you think that was
Speaker 2: just ridiculously interesting or otherwise, I want to know the out.
Speaker 1: Please hit Peter. Tell them how interested you are in
Speaker 1: understanding how this stuff works. People listen, they want to
Speaker 1: believe they could do it. They want to take a chance.
Speaker 1: So I think people like that. I think they'll tell us.
Speaker 1: They'll be like yo, people are getting my DMS or
Speaker 1: tweet me and be like yo, fuck that, don't do that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So you at least your audience,
Speaker 1: and we got a good audience, Like we have a
Speaker 1: they're not hella active with me everybody, but it's probably
Speaker 1: a good forty fifty sixty people that hit me once
Speaker 1: a week to tell me what they think of what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Yeah, So that's why I was saying
Speaker 1: to the girls, like, yo, we all need to start
Speaker 1: being active on our Facebook group, like we can build
Speaker 1: bring everybody there and you know, start seeing what everybody
Speaker 1: want from us. But again, the one thing about No Silllings,
Speaker 1: it's not like an interview podcast, Like even when people want,
Speaker 1: like Yeller was hitting Tiff and saying, man, I want
Speaker 1: to get on Glasses podcast, and I'm like, okay, for sure,
Speaker 1: we you know, we'll do something with Yeller, like he'll
Speaker 1: be around next week. I'm like, okay, Pete here, We'll
Speaker 1: sit down with Yellow. But it's like Nigga ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about no n w A, not like that.
Speaker 1: We won't really have an interview podcast, like we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about shit that Yeller could talk about. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but I don't. I do think there's a
Speaker 1: good amount of people that would love to hear Yello
Speaker 1: just talk about n WA shit. But Nigga Yeller is
Speaker 1: a complex motherfucking person who directed pornos and all kind
Speaker 1: of dope ass shit like that nobody knew about how
Speaker 1: he grew up, all this old fly shit that nobody
Speaker 1: never talks to him about or just about what's going
Speaker 1: on today getting his opinion, And there's like, honestly, there's
Speaker 1: a million fuckers.
Speaker 2: Said dime, a dozen people that they can that the
Speaker 2: target just talking about more of just the hip hop
Speaker 2: part that the audience saw. Yeah, you know, there's no
Speaker 2: shortage of those guys.
Speaker 1: I've been really thinking about designing it more like a
Speaker 1: radio room, you know, like a talk radio, like complete down,
Speaker 1: So like having you to where you on the screen,
Speaker 1: so when we're talking, you can see you on the screen,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so me and you
Speaker 1: doing it. It could be you on the screen and me
Speaker 1: right here, but it can switch back and forth.
Speaker 2: You're making one of those old PBS shows there you
Speaker 2: go from like the early age or so I'll sit
Speaker 2: there a robe and exact glass of cabernet or something exactly.
Speaker 1: So nah, like hell you, all that shit will be
Speaker 1: on the pod. Like, I don't really I cut only
Speaker 1: a few things out the podcast. I really don't be
Speaker 1: fucking with it and cutting it out and all of that,
Speaker 1: Like I really try to make sure it's natural. So
Speaker 1: the last part we did about that Survivors act shit, Hm,
Speaker 1: oh no, that was me and the girl.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, the last one that I was on was
Speaker 2: the one about parenting. Everybody thought I was off myself.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. This lady was really worried
Speaker 1: about it too. She drive trucks. She was like, man,
Speaker 1: it is Pete all right. I'm like, I think Pete
Speaker 1: is okay. But I felt like a piece of shit
Speaker 1: because I hadn't call you after.
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you want?
Speaker 1: No so So, no gud So but no so. Me
Speaker 1: and the girls, Me and Britain and read we did
Speaker 1: a podcast about the survivors that ship. And you know
Speaker 1: it was it was right around the time Cassie had
Speaker 1: all this crazy shit going on with Puff. But now,
Speaker 1: like right, we fast forward and like Puff is in
Speaker 1: a whole nother stage of villainy, a whole nother stage
Speaker 1: of like Puff is entering because stages of villainy that
Speaker 1: very few entertainers in history have ever entered.
Speaker 2: He's he is going to be Yeah, he's beyond James Brown.
Speaker 1: Oh Brown, he low key.
Speaker 2: He's kind of black Weinstein.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hitting r Kelly plus stages.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because I never and maybe I'm tripping bro.
Speaker 1: I don't believe one hundred percent of what these people
Speaker 1: are saying. I think it's somewhere around fifty percent.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, man, they saying Puff is rough the
Speaker 2: girl up handful of.
Speaker 1: Times, yeah, which I get I get how you and
Speaker 1: your old lady could fight. That ain't crazy to me.
Speaker 1: He was so their biggest thing was talking. So right
Speaker 1: now he got a real beef where a woman that
Speaker 1: sending him a hard Pierre actually like raped her or
Speaker 1: like some level of aggressive sex or something to Puff.
Speaker 1: And it was like they said, Puff did it to her,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, they got the pictures of the girl
Speaker 1: sitting in his lap, hanging out, and I'm like one
Speaker 1: of those Yeah. But like I was talking to my
Speaker 1: homeboys and they was telling me Puff is gay, and
Speaker 1: I just I don't know why. I don't believe half
Speaker 1: of this ship.
Speaker 2: There are some conflicting statements there with those two what
Speaker 2: and he's forcing himself on women? Not the gayest thing
Speaker 2: I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: And then all the homies who fucked with Puff, right,
Speaker 1: I hadn't been around Puff, went to a Puff party
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Problem fucked with Puff. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Nip fuck with Puff. I remember, none
Speaker 1: of us ever seen Puff do no gay shit. But
Speaker 1: everybody else who never been around Puffs for the god
Speaker 1: Puff doing gay shit. Don't get me wrong. That one
Speaker 1: nigga who used to be the security guard that hate
Speaker 1: Puff Jean deal that nigga swear to god, Puff did
Speaker 1: everything Cuz like shit, he saying Puff did, but he
Speaker 1: hates Puff exactly. And how you This is my point,
Speaker 1: all these people coming out saying Puff did all this shit?
Speaker 1: How you was around this nigga? Like, I couldn't be
Speaker 1: around no nigga doing no whole ass shit like that.
Speaker 2: I was like, if you're getting paid and it's a
Speaker 2: good time, don't give a fuck. Ain't quite Honestly, the
Speaker 2: only reason why, let's say everything that these people are
Speaker 2: saying is true, They're being incentivized. There's an incentive to
Speaker 2: say it now. There was not an incentive to say
Speaker 2: it then for them personally. There is a potential incentive
Speaker 2: for them to say it now personally. So they're just
Speaker 2: going where whatever the incentive is taking them. Obviously, it's
Speaker 2: the void of principle.
Speaker 1: And that's my point. It is void of principle because
Speaker 1: none of it is a criminal prosecution. All this stuff
Speaker 1: is all civil. It's all about money.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I do think there are some people that in
Speaker 1: brush Paths were puffed to some degree, some puff dig
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, but you can't convince me that
Speaker 1: this this nigga the whole time, was like this motherfucking
Speaker 1: sexual predator the whole time and everybody around him. Like
Speaker 1: even the whole r Kelly shit is just overstated. Like
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, R Kelly dism shit that for
Speaker 1: sure got me put in prison. Right if you if
Speaker 1: you have any sexual indecency or things with somebody under sixteen,
Speaker 1: feel me, that's a child for not if you record it,
Speaker 1: it's a child pornography. That's a federal case. And that's
Speaker 1: why should have got seven years. But man, this whole
Speaker 1: narrative like this nigga is crawling around the schools and
Speaker 1: he at the middle school, and shit, they didn't made
Speaker 1: this nigga. Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, and it's this weird thing
Speaker 1: where I'm seeing motherfuckers and saying this motherfucker gay or
Speaker 1: this motherfucker gay, and is always some successful black person,
Speaker 1: like I'm talking about the motherfuckers out of heard was gay.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker told me Jamie was gay. I didn't fuck with Jamie.
Speaker 1: Jamie cool as a mom. Now I'm not saying gay
Speaker 1: people not cool. I'm saying Jamie. If Jamie Fox was gay,
Speaker 1: bro it a food to shit out of me. If
Speaker 1: if any of these rich, wealthy stunner Wayne they oh
Speaker 1: stun away and kids didn't, I'm like, bro, these niggas
Speaker 1: is fucking the baddest bitches every night, So how the
Speaker 1: fuck is you telling me that these people is homosexual.
Speaker 2: I would bet, even across color lines, if you were
Speaker 2: to just google an extremely high profile person, male, actor, singer, whatever,
Speaker 2: so and so, gay things are going to populate in
Speaker 2: that search. You're not gonna like, like, who's the guy?
Speaker 2: What's that guy said? I'm so bad with names of actors. Jesus,
Speaker 2: maybe Ryan Reynolds something real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the one of them movies he's.
Speaker 2: Gay or something like that. Or I've heard you know,
Speaker 2: and even number of other people.
Speaker 1: It's just like, I just genuinely don't believe all these
Speaker 1: people gay and they're scared to come out. That's what
Speaker 1: my thing is.
Speaker 2: If everybody in the rooms gay, and everybody, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: mystically gay, I don't want to tell anybody, but there's
Speaker 2: a rumor going around that the other nine people in
Speaker 2: the room are gay. I wouldn't want those people who
Speaker 2: I think are gay to find out that I'm gay.
Speaker 2: It would be embarrassing. No, it would be liberating because
Speaker 2: all of you would be gay exactly. It makes sense.
Speaker 1: And that's what I don't understand is like, so, now
Speaker 1: was this shit with Puff where it's like Puff is
Speaker 1: just Puff is like the evilest motherfucker in the world.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at all this shit and I'm watching
Speaker 1: the public, like, right, the public really sway and be like,
Speaker 1: I genuinely think people just tired of seeing cuzz win.
Speaker 1: So now whatever it takes to be like, man, fuck Puff.
Speaker 1: I don't genuinely think most people think Puff is a
Speaker 1: bad part Puff don't even now again, Man, how you
Speaker 1: interact with somebody that you don't know is one thing.
Speaker 1: Puff do not come across as an asshole to people
Speaker 1: he don't know, to niggas he know like us. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe it's because we all gangsters me in age. No
Speaker 1: problem for Compton. I saw the same type of shit
Speaker 1: he knock gonna mistreat us. But I also don't believe
Speaker 1: he could hide who he is. But from all of us,
Speaker 1: some of us is gonna be able to figure it out.
Speaker 2: They tried to pay him out like a bad guy
Speaker 2: on that show he did on VH one where he
Speaker 2: was like making an artist or I forgot the name of.
Speaker 1: That show the band making the band.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. He seemed uh not not the warmest
Speaker 2: and or fuzziest.
Speaker 1: But but I understand why too when you dealer with
Speaker 1: new artists.
Speaker 2: Man like good television.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also you you he there is a
Speaker 1: reality that you have to be hell bent on winning. Sure,
Speaker 1: and if you don't know shit, motherfuckers who know everything, bro,
Speaker 1: I had the hardest introduction ever coming into the music business.
Speaker 1: Nigga kill Snoop, none of them fucking told me shit. Nobody,
Speaker 1: none of the legends coolioh, fucking whoever. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? You name niggas didn't tell me nothing. We
Speaker 1: was on our own, and I started a movement like
Speaker 1: we was a part of a movement where I was
Speaker 1: important in the movement that seemed like it was anti
Speaker 1: all of the legends versus the movement was really pro
Speaker 1: everybody coming up and it just you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: Koch as old as much as Pepsi is the choice
Speaker 1: of the new generation.
Speaker 2: That was from an observer, like that was such a
Speaker 2: weird the LA hip hop scene from an outsider's perspective
Speaker 2: at least this particular outsiders perspective sure was so odd
Speaker 2: in that way. It was like the only city that
Speaker 2: had this kiss the ring culture to antiquated artists by
Speaker 2: and large. I mean not to say that they're not
Speaker 2: good or whatever, or not that their hits are no
Speaker 2: longer interesting or don't have a place, but it was
Speaker 2: like it felt like, all right, this name over here,
Speaker 2: Joe Blow is like red hot right now. These guys
Speaker 2: haven't put out a record in ten years, but this
Speaker 2: guy has a ceiling over his head. Until you know,
Speaker 2: those guys over there that his audience don't even care
Speaker 2: about get propped up by it. You know, it was.
Speaker 2: It was a weird.
Speaker 1: It was tough. It was tough to say the least man,
Speaker 1: It was tough as fuck, bro, it was. It was
Speaker 1: like it was hard. But as I came into at
Speaker 1: this point in my career, right we playing music dog
Speaker 1: like you just don't know. And more than anything to
Speaker 1: me is they don't know how to teach, and you seem, honestly.
Speaker 2: Like more cool with those guys than some of the
Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't know from Adam, but I
Speaker 2: don't It doesn't appear that he really like game used
Speaker 2: to almost to put it over the top, go maybe
Speaker 2: too far out of his way to try to like
Speaker 2: pay homage. Why G say, I'm the first rapper to
Speaker 2: make it without dre And I don't see him doing
Speaker 2: a lot of work with older guys and doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like he wants to stay there. And maybe maybe they're
Speaker 2: all great friends. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, no, they didn't raise they music didn't raise him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The Bay would have been
Speaker 1: in his instrumental years, right, the Hive movie like Mustard
Speaker 1: Mustard YG Tiger Debay is more instrumental, and they're like
Speaker 1: these it like if he's born in nineteen eighty eight
Speaker 1: or eighty nine or nineteen ninety, two thousand and five,
Speaker 1: six seven. As far as West Coast hip hop, Heife
Speaker 1: carried the Whole Coast game had a significant stance produced
Speaker 1: by Doctor Drebill. Remember Battlecat didn't offer any artists, and
Speaker 1: like from two thousand and three forward, he didn't offer
Speaker 1: any artist where he executive produced the shit and put
Speaker 1: out a groupe of music. His brother, you know, Mike
Speaker 1: stro like, he didn't really make that his business. Warren
Speaker 1: didn't offer any new artists from two thousand to three four,
Speaker 1: DJ Quick didn't offer any new artists two thousand and
Speaker 1: three four. Wow was that I don't know, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a podcast with all of them and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask him, like, why the fuck would you
Speaker 1: not be producing whole albums on artists. Remember the last
Speaker 1: offering Battlecap gave us was the East Siders, Like he
Speaker 1: was pretty much instrumental in the production of both of
Speaker 1: their albums. DJ Quick Sugar Free, like that was pretty
Speaker 1: much the last artist he offered. Warren g was probably.
Speaker 2: I don't know himself, and it seemed like That's also
Speaker 2: interesting thing from from that book. I was saying, I
Speaker 2: just wrapped up. But it was like, you know the
Speaker 2: perception of supply and demand, but it's like supply precede demand.
Speaker 2: You have to put a supply of so people to
Speaker 2: have a demand for it. To me, it just kind
Speaker 2: of seemed like that sound just kind of ran its
Speaker 2: course and there wasn't the market for it. Really, it's
Speaker 2: crazy you to say that they just.
Speaker 1: It never ran its course, like they stopped serving it
Speaker 1: to the next generation. Nobody ever got tired of the East.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever got tired of Snoop and battle Cat. Nobody
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's enough. Nobody ever got tired of
Speaker 1: Stoop and Dre. Nobody ever said that's enough them motherfuckers.
Speaker 1: As a creative, if you wake up and you be like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do something else or I'm pursuing something different,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it wasn't like niggas
Speaker 1: got tired of battle Cat sound, a Quick sound or
Speaker 1: Warren sound or jelly Roll sound or you know, any
Speaker 1: slip DJ slip from Comms mulst one. Nobody got tired
Speaker 1: of they sound Rick Rock, none of them. But what
Speaker 1: happened was they stopped producing for younger artists now, not completely,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure I got a song from battle Cat
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. Different people got songs from
Speaker 1: DJ Quick. But it's different when DJ Quick presents it
Speaker 1: sugar free, it's different when Battlecat is nine to ten
Speaker 1: songs on the east side of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, that's basically like bird Man putting
Speaker 2: out on the menu. Turkwayne, Juvie, BG, et cetera. And
Speaker 2: that's just putting out on the menu Drake, Nikki, et cetera,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: But don't look at it as the exec look at
Speaker 1: it as the music. So backing up, right, So backing
Speaker 1: up to the point I was making was what.
Speaker 2: It would have been different if he did one Drake
Speaker 2: song for Drake and spposed to saying about your whole
Speaker 2: fucking album.
Speaker 1: Facts right, Well, forty forty does overseers all album and
Speaker 1: forty is magnificent like that producer that Drake uses. But
Speaker 1: back back up, I digress. So as far as y
Speaker 1: g and them, they didn't really grow up to that
Speaker 1: sound that we that me and Gang grew up to.
Speaker 1: It's a different sound that they they grew up to, Hyphi.
Speaker 2: It's weird because their music doesn't sound like it. All
Speaker 2: their music sounds like they grew up to the Clicks
Speaker 2: first album in like ninety seven or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: What's funny is that the Bay Area can hear it
Speaker 1: and they talk about it all the time. But that's
Speaker 1: the thing when you run the coast. But ye, but
Speaker 1: it sounds like. It doesn't sound like the Federation, it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like Kick. It's it's so so yet not now.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying right when like I'm different, and uh
Speaker 1: uh cop so so so cook it. That's all hype,
Speaker 1: that's all heyfe you know what I'm saying. So, but
Speaker 1: that's also when the Bay Area was dominating the party
Speaker 1: scene in California completely, So their music sounds like it.
Speaker 1: But back up to the original point, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. It's like, I know what it's like coming
Speaker 1: in the business and not having you know, nobody to
Speaker 1: tell you what's right and wrong. So even when I'm
Speaker 1: looking at somebody like like a Puff, so back to
Speaker 1: the point of making a band, because that's where he
Speaker 1: was at. Right, It's like Nigga, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: what Battlecat new. It took me for years to figure
Speaker 1: out what battle Cat new. So I'm not looking even now.
Speaker 1: The more I know, I don't think Puff put them
Speaker 1: band niggas through shit, if all. The worst thing they
Speaker 1: had to do because was be on TV and Walton
Speaker 1: Juniors to get a G's cake. They won. I took
Speaker 1: my whole thirties off Nigga to figure this shit out,
Speaker 1: my whole thirties, my whole thirty I turned forty four.
Speaker 1: I mean this week, I took all of my thirties
Speaker 1: to learn to get to a space, to know with Puff, No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and making the band, it sort of
Speaker 2: would be like, you know, like Shark Tank. Yeah, they're ay,
Speaker 2: they're trying to assess not just the how great is
Speaker 2: the clothing line you've come up with, but it's like
Speaker 2: how I'm investing in you, I'm investing in the entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: you know, but that guy's already gone through the process
Speaker 2: to vet whether he's got the chops or not. Where
Speaker 2: it would be like me going up to Mark Cuban,
Speaker 2: I want to start a company and him having to
Speaker 2: vet how serious I am, you know, without showing up
Speaker 2: with the company and already having a vet how serious
Speaker 2: I am? You know, he has to really kind of
Speaker 2: go do the high school football tryouts on that show
Speaker 2: is kind of what it was.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, So that's why I don't so even that
Speaker 1: version of Puff that people would look at as a villain.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't look at Puff like that, especially because I
Speaker 1: have the information. Now if you ignorant, you're looking Puffing
Speaker 1: like me, he's a dick. He made them niggas walk
Speaker 1: and get that cheesecake. It's like, bro, if that's the
Speaker 1: max they had to pay for to get what they
Speaker 1: got to be around this motherfucking his information. As far
Speaker 1: as this business, it was cheap a fucking walk a
Speaker 1: couple of fuck out the which I wish. I wish
Speaker 1: doctor Dre would have told me, Glads, I need you
Speaker 1: to like we in Studio City, at his studio, at
Speaker 1: Studio one, He's like, you need to walk to fucking
Speaker 1: Compton to give me a fucking barbecue from off of
Speaker 1: a you know, the the uh, what's the fucking place,
Speaker 1: the new spot corner. It's a barbecue spot on the
Speaker 1: corner and count I would have walked in, but it
Speaker 1: only looks bad when you ignorant on what he about
Speaker 1: to give you. So again like, I can't imagine Puff business.
Speaker 1: Hella villain this whole time, and nobody saw ship. Nobody
Speaker 1: saw ship. You mean to tell me so even.
Speaker 2: With Casie and Kim, all those people, everybody who would
Speaker 2: have expired career, no offense to those people. They love
Speaker 2: to get a cash cash in on. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 2: you how bad Puff is. And because I could use
Speaker 2: a million dollars today that happened.
Speaker 1: It's just this weird space to where everybody I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's the social media culture of it all
Speaker 1: because there is a culture forming on social media kick
Speaker 1: a motherfucking when he down.
Speaker 2: There's I mean, I think it's all an expansion of
Speaker 2: it to be blud People not gonna want to hear it.
Speaker 2: It's an expansion of of what is now a taught
Speaker 2: in Marxist mentality in America that says that nobody who
Speaker 2: achieves anything, or creates anything, or produces anything did so
Speaker 2: because they were smarter, or they worked harder, or they
Speaker 2: were disciplined than anybody else. You had to be an
Speaker 2: asshole and fuck over a bunch of people otherwise you're
Speaker 2: just like Joe Blow the cashier at Walgreens. And that's
Speaker 2: not true. But the second they get an opportunity to
Speaker 2: validate that perspective, they all go at it like piranhas.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it's personally for them to make excuse
Speaker 1: for their shortcomings. The average person. I genuinely think the
Speaker 1: average person does that to validate why they didn't make it. Well,
Speaker 1: why it's not life not I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't such a good person.
Speaker 1: I could have been a piece of shit too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: piece of shit you over there smashing them cheeseburgers and
Speaker 1: shit at McDonald for you server so no, it's just hard,
Speaker 1: like Puff raping a bunch of benches. I'm not riding, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm just not riding. I'm not right. I'm not riding
Speaker 1: at Puffs too easy. I'm not riding that Puff is
Speaker 1: raping a bunch of bitches. And everybody is just cool.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to be down, so they're not saying them
Speaker 1: because it got to be at least one glasses over there,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way I'd be in a circle with
Speaker 1: mac Tin, or I'll be in a circle with bird Man,
Speaker 1: or I'll be a circle in Little Wayne, and it's
Speaker 1: some old whole ass shit happen.
Speaker 2: Have to not have anybody around that he came up with,
Speaker 2: not one, because if you had one person around that
Speaker 2: you came up with, that person would have to be
Speaker 2: solid because you're thinning out people as you go. So
Speaker 2: if anybody was from Harlem that rolled with him, that
Speaker 2: person would be solid. That's why they'd be there. Otherwise
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, you guys aren't doing anything. I'm going
Speaker 2: and doing all this. You guys hang back there.
Speaker 1: And there's nobody coming out, and it's so weird because
Speaker 1: people aren't coming out and saying like and to the
Speaker 1: sheep mentality is like nobody's saying he a good person
Speaker 1: because he's a bad person. It's like, that's just saying true.
Speaker 1: There is nobody he even so let's say he was
Speaker 1: an evil person. It's at least some motherfuckers he food.
Speaker 1: Where are those people?
Speaker 2: That's the other Yeah, like where, well, I mean, are
Speaker 2: there to the extent we've said, where is faith? Whereas Ken?
Speaker 2: Where sees where all these people? You know, you don't
Speaker 2: hear him out for all these years previously that mouthed
Speaker 2: the guy, I haven't paid a mountain of attention to
Speaker 2: the situation. Have any of those people been like, Huff's
Speaker 2: a pretty solid guy. What are you guys doing? Any
Speaker 2: detractors from the accusation? Hurricane or no? Not it that's disappointing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think I don't think that's
Speaker 1: in correlation that he just I don't think that means
Speaker 1: he's a bad person.
Speaker 2: Disappointing in puffs, disappointing in them.
Speaker 1: Especially all these people lives he changed. Yeah, for the
Speaker 1: life of me, even with like Mace, I can't get it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I'm a fuck what you feel l
Speaker 1: us or like blah blah blah, like this motherfucker didn't
Speaker 1: passed out more hits. The motherfuckers, some of these motherfuckers
Speaker 1: never had another hit for nobody else. And they'll be like,
Speaker 1: well stop me. Yeah, like Rob passed, damn it Rob
Speaker 1: for short, Like nah, Rob probably stood up.
Speaker 2: For I walked right into that rake.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's all good.
Speaker 2: I was a fan of his.
Speaker 1: Man Puffish Puff one of them dudes. Man that didn't
Speaker 1: put on a lot of people. Gave a lot of opportunities.
Speaker 1: And you can't just sit up here and tell the
Speaker 1: Locks if he got into it, if he well, they
Speaker 1: was so the Lock situation. I remember Jaden. It was
Speaker 1: mad because puff had they publish, He bought their publishers.
Speaker 1: He what their published bought, their published bought.
Speaker 2: Who do you buy it from?
Speaker 1: From the Locks?
Speaker 2: So if they if he bought it from them, they
Speaker 2: regret selling it. Oh they regret getting the money?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I just they thought to themselves they got it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't Now that they have reassessed the deal ten years later,
Speaker 1: they was like, oh, it's probably worth.
Speaker 2: They spent the money instead of investing it in an
Speaker 2: asset that would grow at a parallel rate, and now
Speaker 2: they have sour grapes because they didn't invest their money,
Speaker 2: because they could have gone and bought an apartment building
Speaker 2: and they'd be just fine.
Speaker 1: There to the big home state. I've said it, so
Speaker 1: I'm not against it. I can't wait till we talked
Speaker 1: to Styles, you know what I mean, and talked to Jaden.
Speaker 2: Styles is that's another guy. Styles in two thousand and
Speaker 2: two was my favorite stole. They were were talking about
Speaker 2: Tash earlier. You could catch me with Styles and Tash
Speaker 2: playing in the car two thousand and two, probably four
Speaker 2: out of seven days in a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Styles, Styles p was crazy is how good Shechicenn
Speaker 1: got over the time. But it is weird at this point.
Speaker 1: But this is the same thing Sug was going through.
Speaker 1: There was nobody speaking enough for Sug when he was
Speaker 1: going through all this shit and this people should change
Speaker 1: their life, Sug. Listen, Sug got some more like every
Speaker 1: other La Street nigga in the history of Los Angeles County,
Speaker 1: all every last street nigga got they little bullshit that
Speaker 1: they been fucked up, and some of them it's a
Speaker 1: little worse than others, but a motherfucker like Sugar and
Speaker 1: there's so many great things for people, and to not
Speaker 1: watch nobody come up and ever stand up, Like when
Speaker 1: these black people be going through this shit and it
Speaker 1: be black people that looked out. But I'll be just
Speaker 1: thinking they be waiting for this motherfucker to fall down
Speaker 1: so they could try to get in the spot. But
Speaker 1: what they don't get is they could never get in
Speaker 1: the spot because they didn't They wasn't willing to sacrifice,
Speaker 1: because it was willing to sacrifice to get there. Like
Speaker 1: the shit Puff know about records? Bro is trust me, man,
Speaker 1: this is somebody who make records. Like the shit this
Speaker 1: motherfucker know about records, Bro, it's probably ain't even ten
Speaker 1: motherfuckers in the music business that know about records like him.
Speaker 2: He knows. He's a guy who has had a great
Speaker 2: feel for the pulse of consumer psychology since he was
Speaker 2: probably twenty years old. There are not many people out
Speaker 2: there like that. They just understand, all right, what are
Speaker 2: these fifty million people going to want? In six months?
Speaker 2: He'll be like, they're gonna want that. He's gonna be
Speaker 2: right every time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Puff is tough, Puff tough as fuck, Puff is cold.
Speaker 1: But I just I don't get it. Bro, And you
Speaker 1: can't convince me he's satan. He just been walking around,
Speaker 1: because if he just been satan this whole time and
Speaker 1: he been walking around all you motherfuckers, all you motherfuckers's bitches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, quite honestly, being frank, number people over
Speaker 2: there have been shot. I don't remember anybody shooting him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, true, I mean I don't know. It's just getting
Speaker 1: worse and worse, and the longer I'm in the entertainment business.
Speaker 1: Do I think it's some things happening?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yes? Do I think it's so awful? An awful lot
Speaker 1: of people on drugs? Fuck yeah. But also in the
Speaker 1: streets it's certain homies. This is how I know why
Speaker 1: everybody don't fuck with me all the time. They fuck
Speaker 1: with me when they see me, but they don't want
Speaker 1: me around because I'm sober, this nigga not drinking nothing,
Speaker 1: this nigga not doing no dope. They don't want me around.
Speaker 1: I respect that it. Maybe some of these people are
Speaker 1: gay and they don't want me around because because they
Speaker 1: know I'm not, you know, on no gay ship.
Speaker 2: That's weird because like the sober part, Mook came over
Speaker 2: here and we were sitting around isn't even here. I
Speaker 2: could sit around and drink all goddamnit.
Speaker 1: Over there, but everybody had this perception of who I am,
Speaker 1: Like I'm judgmental, and I'm like because of how we'll
Speaker 1: have a conversation and I'll be like, man, that shit done.
Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm saying nothing to you. Why you're drinking.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck you're going through or
Speaker 1: you might be going through this fill Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I'll get it, man. I don't get the whole puss
Speaker 1: shit bro That shit just crazy. Now. It's like pick
Speaker 1: on Puff week cause it's pick on Puff day. Puff
Speaker 1: ain't shit fuck puff. And I just don't like the
Speaker 1: mob mentality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. And everybody with an opportunity to
Speaker 2: sound like no, no, I'm moral, is superior. Look at
Speaker 2: me address this problem. Yeah, so anybody knows that I'm
Speaker 2: against it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It get worse and worse. I don't
Speaker 1: know what to do no more.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Like It's like I just wake up every day and
Speaker 1: I look at Twitter because I just shake my head, like,
Speaker 1: fuck man, these people are just goofy. They won't even
Speaker 1: have a personal thought. But it goes back to that
Speaker 1: pod wolves, sheep and shepherd. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You see the sheep mentality all the time. You see
Speaker 1: the sheep mentality the whole time. Every fucking body's a sheep.
Speaker 1: Let me go with what everybody else is saying. Let
Speaker 1: me go with everybody else is saying. Let me say
Speaker 1: what everybody else is saying. On Puff is bad on
Speaker 1: Puffed at this, And I like, I'll say some of
Speaker 1: the comments, like you know, Puff fucked over all these artists?
Speaker 1: Which artists did he fucked over? Nigga told me, well,
Speaker 1: Big didn't have no money when he died.
Speaker 2: Big.
Speaker 1: First off, his first record took so much fucking work, right,
Speaker 1: His first record took the song that's the hit record
Speaker 1: is Puff's idea. It's not Bigg's idea. Right, he didn't
Speaker 1: produce it, he wrote it. So it's like when people
Speaker 1: say shit like, oh, well he didn't have this, he
Speaker 1: didn't have that, And I'm like, what the fuck does
Speaker 1: that have to do with Puff?
Speaker 2: Well, like back at that time, like you know, the
Speaker 2: album and stuff came out, but the tour and all
Speaker 2: that shit hadn't happened yet. So like his monetization vehicle
Speaker 2: hadn't left court, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: The same thing with Tupac. Yeah, Tupac, Tupac, Like I
Speaker 1: was trying to explain it to the hommy right, Tupac
Speaker 1: situation is, Tupac gets out of prison in October November
Speaker 1: ninety five. He's in the studio the first day he
Speaker 1: comes home, and every day to the album is out right,
Speaker 1: So this is how much studio bill he racking up.
Speaker 1: Let's say at that time that studio bill two thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: It's probably a little bit more at this time, but
Speaker 1: let's say it's two thousand dollars a day. Let's say
Speaker 1: this motherfucking the studio one hundred days. That's two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand to be in the studio. Let's say to get
Speaker 1: him out of jail, I think his bill was one
Speaker 1: point five million dollars. Let's say that's one point seven
Speaker 1: Let's say everything they had to pay for it, right,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Let's say he comes home, they give
Speaker 1: him half a million dollars or six hundred thousand. Let's
Speaker 1: say he kicked that bill. He right at two point
Speaker 1: five two point six million. The start right now, you're
Speaker 1: shooting videos now you're paying the producers on the album, right, other.
Speaker 2: People will come feature on the song some shot. Snoop
Speaker 2: didn't jump off.
Speaker 1: Snoop jumped on his free part of the come man.
Speaker 1: Pop wrote in his contract Snoop needed to jump on
Speaker 1: like Pop wrote this handwritten in his contracts.
Speaker 2: He cited specifically in the contract.
Speaker 1: Snoop needs to be on a single single for free
Speaker 1: or no no no it no no, he to be
Speaker 1: on it. This is a part of shit, like Pok's contract.
Speaker 1: A feature from Snoop and a remix from dre.
Speaker 2: So for free.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think they'd charged him because I think
Speaker 1: they had a lot of respect for Pok. I know
Speaker 1: Snoop for sure did, because he was already out the
Speaker 1: gate before Snoop started. But even then, Right, let's say
Speaker 1: he and the record three million dollars. Let's say he
Speaker 1: and all his debt three million dollars. I think his
Speaker 1: number was a dollar. He wrote it in a contract, right,
Speaker 1: one dollar per album. Right, let's say videos, everything else,
Speaker 1: Let's say and all this shit. The album come out
Speaker 1: February fourteenth, nineteen ninety six. The first the first statement
Speaker 1: is six months, six months, So that's August. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: say at that point, let's say he was due. Let's
Speaker 1: say he was three four million dollars. Like his split
Speaker 1: of the money was three four million dollars at that
Speaker 1: time where he was at sales. He he ain't getting
Speaker 1: a dime every month. She'll given him one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars every month. Let's say he ain't that motherfucker four
Speaker 1: five million dollars his first statement. The nigga didn't last
Speaker 1: thirty days past his first statement, like his first invoice
Speaker 1: to balance the royalties. It's six months February fifteenth, August fifteenth, right,
Speaker 1: he dies before September fifteen. I think he's down on fourteenth.
Speaker 1: So like his first statement, he would have probably just
Speaker 1: been breaking even, which is fantastic. Sure, it's fantastic to
Speaker 1: break even on your first statement. Nigga takes a lot
Speaker 1: of lot of people lie longer. First statement. He break even.
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to have no money. But motherfuckers don't
Speaker 1: care about doing the math. So that's why I don't
Speaker 1: listen to them. She'll give it this man one hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Look at Snoop situation, Bro Snoop Snoop comes out his shit.
Speaker 1: Ain't like Pocket saw some records. O' pak was able
Speaker 1: to get a dollar and make some stipulation. Snoo shit
Speaker 1: probably a quarter twenty five cent. Right. Let's say they
Speaker 1: and Snoop record a million dollars between videos and making album, right,
Speaker 1: whatever it costs, right, then a million dollars, the nigga
Speaker 1: goes to jail. His baill is a couple of million
Speaker 1: dollars at Tourney's a million dollars everything. Let's say here
Speaker 1: and that shit four five million dollars. Snoop getting fifty
Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand dollars a month, but nobody is
Speaker 1: coming out and saying, Sug wasn't that bad of a dude.
Speaker 1: It's because I think it's because everybody wants these people
Speaker 1: to fall to get into their position, and I think
Speaker 1: that's what we happened. That's what's happening with Puff. Whereas
Speaker 1: like nobody coming out and being a solid nigga be like, man,
Speaker 1: that ain't the Puff. I know, yeah, ain't no way
Speaker 1: Puff did all these people fucked up and then now
Speaker 1: nobody liked you. No, these niggas is lying down. And
Speaker 1: you know what I told Envy this when I was
Speaker 1: at shout out to DJ Envy because at at a
Speaker 1: Power one or five in New York Breakfast Club, Ross
Speaker 1: is kicking cuz cause he down. Now, Rose is a nigga.
Speaker 1: Everybody know Rose and my top five love Rose. Rose
Speaker 1: gave me the feature. It wasn't for free, but he
Speaker 1: gave me the feature. He's a really great man personally,
Speaker 1: like Rose is a great man personally, But to be
Speaker 1: kicking a nigga when he down, it's some bitch ass shit.
Speaker 1: So like he talking shit about Envy when Envy dealing
Speaker 1: with this shit with the nigga that was his partner
Speaker 1: that's in trouble, and now it's like it's a joke
Speaker 1: about Envy when he down. I don't like that cuz
Speaker 1: I'm not That ain't no real man shit. That ain't
Speaker 1: no real nigga shit. That's that bullshit for they laws
Speaker 1: of power shit. See that's why I accept it out
Speaker 1: of fifty cent because fifty cent is a fucking you know,
Speaker 1: he's a fucking a what do you call apostle of
Speaker 1: that book? You know, what's the people who followed jesusug Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a disciple of that book. That's cuz book he's
Speaker 1: a disciple of that book, so I let fifth do
Speaker 1: his thing. And I ain't got much to say because
Speaker 1: that's his book. But I'm watching like a nigga, like Ross,
Speaker 1: why would you be kicked? Cause when he damned?
Speaker 2: It's almost kind of that we see now. It's like
Speaker 2: the if you get the guy's got a bad and
Speaker 2: he's a bad dude. I don't like the guy, but
Speaker 2: scary scary genius. Like you're a lot of people that
Speaker 2: I look at and go, that guy is a scary genius.
Speaker 2: George Soros. D That's it. That guy is a scary genius.
Speaker 1: Dude. Thats not the dude. That's not the dude that's
Speaker 1: in politics.
Speaker 2: The guy who buys politicians. Yeah that guy.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's the other the other guy that just got
Speaker 1: in trouble. No gay guy, chubby gay guy.
Speaker 2: Oh it's like Suarez or something like that, Sanchez who
Speaker 2: just got kicked out of Congress. Yea yeah, yeah, different guy,
Speaker 2: but a lot.
Speaker 1: Of his talking about the wealthy dude that.
Speaker 2: I a super rich guy. But he talks about investing
Speaker 2: on feedback loops. You most investors understand something, so that
Speaker 2: so whatever people are saying, oh the word is housing
Speaker 2: is going up, and it always feel buy housing because it's
Speaker 2: going because the next guy bought well, that guy bought it,
Speaker 2: so it's going up. So I'm gonna buy it because
Speaker 2: it's going up. Well because you know, just mindless group
Speaker 2: think yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, it's just kind
Speaker 2: of a product of the same thing. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: because the feedback loop is moving in this direction, I
Speaker 2: as rick, I'm gonna throw my money in and let
Speaker 2: the let the sheep carry carry my you know whatever
Speaker 2: it is, my money or my value or my virality
Speaker 2: in the same direction. But there's one question I have
Speaker 2: as far as goes this is kind of interesting. I'd
Speaker 2: like to kind of explore because there's you know, there's
Speaker 2: there's urban legend theories galore on the Biggie killing, and
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody looked at it as a reality
Speaker 2: as a revenge claim for pocket. I think that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: A lot of people think that, a lot of people
Speaker 2: think I'm saying that. People close to the situation.
Speaker 1: I think that you think that, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't publicly like say it all, but
Speaker 1: I think so because there was no reason for him
Speaker 1: to die.
Speaker 2: That leads me to the other theory. There was a
Speaker 2: lot of people who I think thought that Puff set
Speaker 2: it up so that he could have it.
Speaker 1: Is odd because Puff owned all that shit no matter what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't need Big to die to own none of
Speaker 1: that ship. I mean, that don't make sense. But back
Speaker 1: to the point, I lost it when he was chopping
Speaker 1: it up about it because it it slipped my mind.
Speaker 1: But I was saying this to envy about Rosslam. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is the type of niggas y'all put on. This
Speaker 1: is the type of nigg like I tell Charla Man,
Speaker 1: I tell different I tell different people. I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: watch who y'all really at least put on a solid Yeah,
Speaker 1: because if you don't put on a solid, man, you
Speaker 1: get that, you get a nigga kicking you when you
Speaker 1: down doing weird shit. You know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: shit is under That ain't cool, daw, that ain't even cool.
Speaker 1: It ain't player. Cus. I don't give fuck what a
Speaker 1: nigga did to me, bro Like, I don't give fuck
Speaker 1: what was said. Bro Thug. Young Thug is a perfect
Speaker 1: example of a nigga dish cribs and niggas had they
Speaker 1: conversations and all of that. Man, I wouldn't say nothing
Speaker 1: about that man. That man fighting the case, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I don't got nothing to say about
Speaker 1: cuz because niggas is really fight for their lives. So
Speaker 1: to watch envy for cuz for ross to no envy
Speaker 1: going through that and then like, oh, you know you
Speaker 1: making jokes, Bro, that's some weird shit. Get your shit together, bro,
Speaker 1: This ain't that fucking rap shit. This real, Cuz this
Speaker 1: ain't no joke Like this ain't the time, my nigga.
Speaker 1: This is the time where you hit a nigga. This
Speaker 1: is the time where you hit a nigga. And I
Speaker 1: don't give fuck what y'all went through. Hey, bro, you
Speaker 1: all right, cause nigga, you a black man. If you
Speaker 1: come from where we come from, you know how fucked
Speaker 1: up this shit get. You know how fucked up. If
Speaker 1: you from the street, bro, you know how fucked up
Speaker 1: she can go. You know how she can't go left.
Speaker 1: So if this ain't the time, I don't fuck what you
Speaker 1: got going on with this, nigga. This is the time
Speaker 1: you call that brother and be like, hey, cause you
Speaker 1: straighten my nigga, I know y'all we on some shit,
Speaker 1: but man, I ain't Finna, and I hope the best
Speaker 1: for you, bro, I don't want you to, But these
Speaker 1: niggas get in front of the general public, and that's
Speaker 1: the difference. That's why that whole conversation about sheep, the
Speaker 1: wolf's sheep and shepherd was important because that's the separation
Speaker 1: between a wolf and a shepherd. A wolf is rounding
Speaker 1: everybody up, rounding all the sheep up to get in
Speaker 1: a position to eat. A shepherd is leading people to eat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's why.
Speaker 1: You eat, because you're leading sheep to better pastures.
Speaker 2: But I mean that's that's why you have to somehow
Speaker 2: find out who's going to complain and be resentful of
Speaker 2: going for a long walk for a cheesecake fast. You know,
Speaker 2: you're you're weeding out mindsets, you're weeding out of a
Speaker 2: mentality somebody. If you're in that position to where you're
Speaker 2: at the threshold of opportunity and the key bearer asked
Speaker 2: you to go get a goddamn slice of cake and
Speaker 2: you're self righteous enough to resent the request, I don't
Speaker 2: think that's the problem of the guy holding the key, true, But.
Speaker 1: It's that sense of entitlement. Yeah, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: entitlement for sure in the entertainment industry, and I can't
Speaker 1: believe it. Like sometimes I'll be worthy, like, damn was
Speaker 1: that me? Did I think iceqbe owe me? Some did
Speaker 1: I think? Snoop? I don't in my mind, I don't
Speaker 1: think I felt like that, But I guess to some
Speaker 1: degree from a street level, I felt like it was something.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's what it is. It's like a sense
Speaker 1: of entitlement, you know what I mean. Like even with
Speaker 1: all this shit going on with Puff now, it's like
Speaker 1: people who felt like Puff didn't do this for them,
Speaker 1: or Puff you know, should have did this for them,
Speaker 1: and it's just all entitled. That makes you not stand
Speaker 1: up and be a man and really stand by somebody
Speaker 1: in those moments when you need them. It don't mean
Speaker 1: you got to go to prison with cuz, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If he did something wrong, cuz and
Speaker 1: it's a legal cubs gonna go to jail by himself.
Speaker 1: It don't matter if you stand up with him or not.
Speaker 1: But it's another thing to feed that brother some shit
Speaker 1: behind the scenes and publicly, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's cool. Maybe it is. Niggas call him puff behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, like you know what, puff, bro man, I
Speaker 1: got your back. But it's also a time to stand
Speaker 1: with that brother right now, especially all these fucking geeks
Speaker 1: that cubs changed their life. Yeah, made millionaires, made famous,
Speaker 1: made it to where they'll never work a nine to five,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I get Mark Curry problem,
Speaker 1: like you know, it didn't go as good for him,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, whatever moment you had my
Speaker 1: nigga was fantastic compared to what other people in this
Speaker 1: business don't never get the chance to get, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's it's it's it's almost unbelievable.
Speaker 1: It's like, kick this nigga when he down, kicking whin
Speaker 1: he damn. And I really think social media just fucked
Speaker 1: it up because it didn't used to be that bad before,
Speaker 1: like it would be it'd be mixed opinions and mixed thoughts,
Speaker 1: so you know, motherfucker had to deal with their own
Speaker 1: court cases and shit, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: now it's a space where it's like people so scared
Speaker 1: to say something because they don't want a bunch of
Speaker 1: people to cyber bully them or tweet them some negative shit.
Speaker 1: Like if I say something that people feel like stands
Speaker 1: up for R Kelly, which I don't say nothing that
Speaker 1: stands up. I just take the truth into consideration. People.
Speaker 1: First thing a motherfuckernna say is oh well you must
Speaker 1: be it. It's like, bitch, shut upbody care what you think?
Speaker 1: Like that's some ignorant shit you I mean, like you know,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't like kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like just be reasonable for ten seconds. If
Speaker 2: you're a legitimate pedophile and another guy gets in trouble
Speaker 2: for being a pedophile, are you.
Speaker 1: Gonna be be drum?
Speaker 2: You're gonna be dead fucking asked silent. You're not going
Speaker 2: to advocate for any element of it. You are going
Speaker 2: to sit there and try to blend in with the wall.
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, people just they're weird. I don't know
Speaker 2: what to make him all the time, but like who
Speaker 2: trying to think, Like there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: puff made, Like like Craig Mac, you know, is he
Speaker 2: still is he alive now? And I gotta ask after
Speaker 2: I missed on Black Rob.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could dig it, cup say that one.
Speaker 2: John Craig Mac is still alive? I'm trying to do
Speaker 2: a catalog all the people that that puff.
Speaker 1: No, Craig passed away, he did?
Speaker 2: I thought I thought he did.
Speaker 1: Craig passed away for sure. Yeah, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: he just get worse and worse.
Speaker 2: Dog, I mean even like and he's not even a
Speaker 2: street guy. But like you saw, like Ashton Kutcher had
Speaker 2: that co star from his show Get in Trouble for
Speaker 2: like something with kids. Oddly enough, I don't remember what
Speaker 2: the hell it was. Yeah, but Ashton stood up for
Speaker 2: the dude until the conviction. Then he was like, well,
Speaker 2: I didn't really want to believe he was doing all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff. He'd been a good friend of
Speaker 2: mine for a long time. But if he's doing all
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, then can't be doing that kind
Speaker 2: of shit. But it wasn't like the first day that
Speaker 2: the accusation came out, he was like, fine, I fuck
Speaker 2: kept gett him away from you the no he like,
Speaker 2: I kept him on his show. He stood up for
Speaker 2: him that Once the evidence came pouring into court, he
Speaker 2: was like, shit, well I didn't know he was doing
Speaker 2: all that. I didn't want to believe it. Not for
Speaker 2: too long, you know, there's no benefit. He gave the
Speaker 2: guy benefit of the doubt. He gave him, you know,
Speaker 2: in his sent until proven guilty kind of you know approach.
Speaker 2: There's none of that with this, None of that with this.
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