WEBVTT - Conversations About Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>What's up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your hosts now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>loat glasses, Malone. My thing always was with doing videos

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<v Speaker 1>is the quality of it all. Like one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>happened to me is I became like a quality junkie.

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<v Speaker 1>The more I got into like fucking with records and

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<v Speaker 1>making records and making them sound good, you start being

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<v Speaker 1>hella like extra on quality. I remember Doctor Dre like

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<v Speaker 1>being in there with him and him saying how long

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<v Speaker 1>it was taking him to make records, thinking to myself like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>take you that goddamn long. It don't take that long

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<v Speaker 1>till I start understanding what making records was about. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>take that loan. So that's to me how I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like with like, yeah, like all our pods we have

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<v Speaker 1>video portions, but they look like shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like do I really want to present that

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody that because people got high regards for our podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Like honestly, people really be like, man, y'all, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>me and you talk, even when me and the girls

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<v Speaker 1>just talking, it's like there's these you could tell we

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<v Speaker 1>explore different parts of the you know, the the cave

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<v Speaker 1>that we call life and from a different perspective, So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the video shit represent the same thing too. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so it don't make it no easier, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>be happening.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's probably possible because I just don't like

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<v Speaker 2>the look of regardless of the quality of the medium,

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<v Speaker 2>like say, second for mind, like you're in a studio,

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<v Speaker 2>so it looks a lot more professional, you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>if you have a decent quality you know, interface or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the look of like having my just

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<v Speaker 2>my apartment behind me, But I would guess unless there

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<v Speaker 2>was unless somebody walked about with a leaf blower, which

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be very likely because usually we do stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>the evening. Yeah, and it's quiet. If I sat outside

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<v Speaker 2>with my back to the balcony behind me, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that there's enough enclosure there to where it would

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<v Speaker 2>get that same echoy problem. Yeah, I could probably be

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<v Speaker 2>all right because I could just set up because I

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<v Speaker 2>really do think it would be all right to set

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<v Speaker 2>up with like either cocktail cigar or cocktail coffee cigar

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<v Speaker 2>and then just have like space and a distant building

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<v Speaker 2>behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could dig it. I could dig what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>As opposed to like just the wall of the other

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<v Speaker 2>side of the apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's crazy, is right, is this is the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 1>The crazy part is it's like, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much the production space that people be looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a dog. To me, it's more like like to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's more like a people want to see at least

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<v Speaker 1>it's clear, gotcha, Okay, you know what I mean? People,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the bare minimum standard, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a visual is probably ten ADP. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I don't know if everybody tripping off

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<v Speaker 1>of it being four k let alone ak and all

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<v Speaker 1>that futuristic shit, but for sure they want that shit

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<v Speaker 1>ten ADP.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I like, I want, like ideally to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have something that I could use on the

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<v Speaker 2>phone where I could prop up and use the good

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<v Speaker 2>camera part of the phone you post to the laptop

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<v Speaker 2>camera on an old back book, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well standard the thing is like at home right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of new live streams popping up every day.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's a group of them, the homies pun Real

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<v Speaker 1>ad all the homies, Ice Boys, all of them got

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<v Speaker 1>this whole fig Munity World thing, and they're using streaming cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't get me wrong, I don't think the quality

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the cams are excellent, but they're good

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<v Speaker 1>enough to where you can see all the corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the room. So they they got some kind of definition,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. They not like no pug

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<v Speaker 1>ass cameras like they some shit. So I'm thinking we

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<v Speaker 1>have to go into a space like that eventually. But

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<v Speaker 1>even moving forward, like I think this year we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred podcasts total. I mean like it's for

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<v Speaker 1>a week. No, we have two hundred total, Like we

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<v Speaker 1>can call to our two hundred addition, I mean, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>our two hundred episode. So I notice everybody who hears

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<v Speaker 1>it thinks is really good. Well, most people don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why I have a podcast because they can't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, again, when I first started looking at podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't about like you know, seeing it. Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was for like more to like talk radio, like intelligent

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<v Speaker 1>people to listen to. But obviously now you put all

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<v Speaker 1>of these videos in it because and you've got all

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<v Speaker 1>these retarded conversations happening parted as people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean like I'm not gonna lie like that. I

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<v Speaker 2>watched probably a few hours because I don't have cable,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have a bunch of streaming things, like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those Amazon TVs, So I do watch a good

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<v Speaker 2>amount of like like Rumble channels or YouTube channels. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't watch YouTube channels. Sometimes there's interviews specifically that I

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<v Speaker 2>know happened that I want to watch on YouTube, but

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<v Speaker 2>by and large there's like daily shows of different people

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<v Speaker 2>that'll do whatever on there. Yeah, I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>still space to dive into that, to dive into Rumble,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's still they're still in that kind of build

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<v Speaker 2>out phase. And there are people who've gotten kicked off

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<v Speaker 2>of YouTube permanently, like a big name people who's the

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<v Speaker 2>white guy with the stringy hair, the British guy.

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<v Speaker 1>The British guy with stringing here, super famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck, I'm a big fan of his, super like like

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<v Speaker 2>very very famous guy. But he's like either permanently kicked

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<v Speaker 2>off YouTube or has to or does like fifteen minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of YouTube and then forty five remaining on Rumble because

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<v Speaker 2>should they talk about get howd of profile You're done?

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<v Speaker 2>Steven Crowder done. There's all kinds of guys that you

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<v Speaker 2>think you say anything about I mean, you could say

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<v Speaker 2>something about Palestine, You're done. You say something about trans people,

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<v Speaker 2>You're done. You say something about all sorts of shit,

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<v Speaker 2>and YouTube's like yanking people off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I don't know, but going definitely into next season,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, if we committed to it,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm going, if I'm committed to it, like I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta start figuring out a visual component, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're out of space now to where we all comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I think that's the point. Like at first,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't rushing to get the visual component. I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not even comfortable doing podcasts. And now I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're in the space now to where we can even

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<v Speaker 1>miss sometimes but we jump right back into it and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much hammer it like it's almost second nature at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. So I've been really working on visually how

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna execute this. I mean, but you know, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>figure that shit out. Ain't nothing I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. No seilings first off, no sillings, gl well.

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<v Speaker 2>That other part's not gonna be in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>All this's gonna be in the show.

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<v Speaker 2>All of that just right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, people love this podcast, you know, it's funny. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is all about people you figuring out shit.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody has the impetus to do me a favor

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<v Speaker 2>and write in the comments. Yeah, if you're interested in

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<v Speaker 2>our pontification about the visual Peter, you think that was

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<v Speaker 2>just ridiculously interesting or otherwise, I want to know the out.

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<v Speaker 1>Please hit Peter. Tell them how interested you are in

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<v Speaker 1>understanding how this stuff works. People listen, they want to

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<v Speaker 1>believe they could do it. They want to take a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think people like that. I think they'll tell us.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be like yo, people are getting my DMS or

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<v Speaker 1>tweet me and be like yo, fuck that, don't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So you at least your audience,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got a good audience, Like we have a

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<v Speaker 1>they're not hella active with me everybody, but it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a good forty fifty sixty people that hit me once

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<v Speaker 1>a week to tell me what they think of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. Yeah, So that's why I was saying

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<v Speaker 1>to the girls, like, yo, we all need to start

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<v Speaker 1>being active on our Facebook group, like we can build

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<v Speaker 1>bring everybody there and you know, start seeing what everybody

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<v Speaker 1>want from us. But again, the one thing about No Silllings,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like an interview podcast, Like even when people want,

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<v Speaker 1>like Yeller was hitting Tiff and saying, man, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get on Glasses podcast, and I'm like, okay, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we you know, we'll do something with Yeller, like he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be around next week. I'm like, okay, Pete here, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>sit down with Yellow. But it's like Nigga ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about no n w A, not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We won't really have an interview podcast, like we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about shit that Yeller could talk about. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I don't. I do think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>good amount of people that would love to hear Yello

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about n WA shit. But Nigga Yeller is

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<v Speaker 1>a complex motherfucking person who directed pornos and all kind

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<v Speaker 1>of dope ass shit like that nobody knew about how

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<v Speaker 1>he grew up, all this old fly shit that nobody

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<v Speaker 1>never talks to him about or just about what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on today getting his opinion, And there's like, honestly, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a million fuckers.

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<v Speaker 2>Said dime, a dozen people that they can that the

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<v Speaker 2>target just talking about more of just the hip hop

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<v Speaker 2>part that the audience saw. Yeah, you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>shortage of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been really thinking about designing it more like a

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<v Speaker 1>radio room, you know, like a talk radio, like complete down,

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<v Speaker 1>So like having you to where you on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>so when we're talking, you can see you on the screen,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, And so me and you

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. It could be you on the screen and me

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<v Speaker 1>right here, but it can switch back and forth.

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<v Speaker 2>You're making one of those old PBS shows there you

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<v Speaker 2>go from like the early age or so I'll sit

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<v Speaker 2>there a robe and exact glass of cabernet or something exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So nah, like hell you, all that shit will be

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<v Speaker 1>on the pod. Like, I don't really I cut only

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<v Speaker 1>a few things out the podcast. I really don't be

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<v Speaker 1>fucking with it and cutting it out and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I really try to make sure it's natural. So

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<v Speaker 1>the last part we did about that Survivors act shit, Hm,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, that was me and the girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, the last one that I was on was

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<v Speaker 2>the one about parenting. Everybody thought I was off myself.

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<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. This lady was really worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it too. She drive trucks. She was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it is Pete all right. I'm like, I think Pete

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<v Speaker 1>is okay. But I felt like a piece of shit

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<v Speaker 1>because I hadn't call you after.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, what do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>No so So, no gud So but no so. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and the girls, Me and Britain and read we did

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about the survivors that ship. And you know

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was right around the time Cassie had

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<v Speaker 1>all this crazy shit going on with Puff. But now,

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<v Speaker 1>like right, we fast forward and like Puff is in

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<v Speaker 1>a whole nother stage of villainy, a whole nother stage

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<v Speaker 1>of like Puff is entering because stages of villainy that

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<v Speaker 1>very few entertainers in history have ever entered.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he is going to be Yeah, he's beyond James Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Brown, he low key.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of black Weinstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's hitting r Kelly plus stages.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because I never and maybe I'm tripping bro.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe one hundred percent of what these people

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<v Speaker 1>are saying. I think it's somewhere around fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, man, they saying Puff is rough the

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<v Speaker 2>girl up handful of.

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<v Speaker 1>Times, yeah, which I get I get how you and

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<v Speaker 1>your old lady could fight. That ain't crazy to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so their biggest thing was talking. So right

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<v Speaker 1>now he got a real beef where a woman that

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<v Speaker 1>sending him a hard Pierre actually like raped her or

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<v Speaker 1>like some level of aggressive sex or something to Puff.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was like they said, Puff did it to her,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, they got the pictures of the girl

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in his lap, hanging out, and I'm like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those Yeah. But like I was talking to my

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<v Speaker 1>homeboys and they was telling me Puff is gay, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know why. I don't believe half

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<v Speaker 1>of this ship.

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<v Speaker 2>There are some conflicting statements there with those two what

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<v Speaker 2>and he's forcing himself on women? Not the gayest thing

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 1>And then all the homies who fucked with Puff, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't been around Puff, went to a Puff party

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. Problem fucked with Puff. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Nip fuck with Puff. I remember, none

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<v Speaker 1>of us ever seen Puff do no gay shit. But

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else who never been around Puffs for the god

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<v Speaker 1>Puff doing gay shit. Don't get me wrong. That one

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<v Speaker 1>nigga who used to be the security guard that hate

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<v Speaker 1>Puff Jean deal that nigga swear to god, Puff did

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<v Speaker 1>everything Cuz like shit, he saying Puff did, but he

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<v Speaker 1>hates Puff exactly. And how you This is my point,

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<v Speaker 1>all these people coming out saying Puff did all this shit?

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<v Speaker 1>How you was around this nigga? Like, I couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>around no nigga doing no whole ass shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, if you're getting paid and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good time, don't give a fuck. Ain't quite Honestly, the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason why, let's say everything that these people are

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<v Speaker 2>saying is true, They're being incentivized. There's an incentive to

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<v Speaker 2>say it now. There was not an incentive to say

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<v Speaker 2>it then for them personally. There is a potential incentive

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<v Speaker 2>for them to say it now personally. So they're just

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<v Speaker 2>going where whatever the incentive is taking them. Obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the void of principle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my point. It is void of principle because

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<v Speaker 1>none of it is a criminal prosecution. All this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is all civil. It's all about money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I do think there are some people that in

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<v Speaker 1>brush Paths were puffed to some degree, some puff dig

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I mean, but you can't convince me that

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<v Speaker 1>this this nigga the whole time, was like this motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>sexual predator the whole time and everybody around him. Like

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<v Speaker 1>even the whole r Kelly shit is just overstated. Like

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong, R Kelly dism shit that for

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<v Speaker 1>sure got me put in prison. Right if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you have any sexual indecency or things with somebody under sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>feel me, that's a child for not if you record it,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a child pornography. That's a federal case. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why should have got seven years. But man, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>narrative like this nigga is crawling around the schools and

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<v Speaker 1>he at the middle school, and shit, they didn't made

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<v Speaker 1>this nigga. Jeffrey Dahmer. Yeah, and it's this weird thing

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm seeing motherfuckers and saying this motherfucker gay or

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<v Speaker 1>this motherfucker gay, and is always some successful black person,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm talking about the motherfuckers out of heard was gay.

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<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker told me Jamie was gay. I didn't fuck with Jamie.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie cool as a mom. Now I'm not saying gay

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<v Speaker 1>people not cool. I'm saying Jamie. If Jamie Fox was gay,

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<v Speaker 1>bro it a food to shit out of me. If

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<v Speaker 1>if any of these rich, wealthy stunner Wayne they oh

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<v Speaker 1>stun away and kids didn't, I'm like, bro, these niggas

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<v Speaker 1>is fucking the baddest bitches every night, So how the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck is you telling me that these people is homosexual.

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<v Speaker 2>I would bet, even across color lines, if you were

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<v Speaker 2>to just google an extremely high profile person, male, actor, singer, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>so and so, gay things are going to populate in

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<v Speaker 2>that search. You're not gonna like, like, who's the guy?

0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:40.880
<v Speaker 2>What's that guy said? I'm so bad with names of actors. Jesus,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Ryan Reynolds something real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the one of them movies he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay or something like that. Or I've heard you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and even number of other people.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, I just genuinely don't believe all these

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<v Speaker 1>people gay and they're scared to come out. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>my thing is.

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<v Speaker 2>If everybody in the rooms gay, and everybody, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>mystically gay, I don't want to tell anybody, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>a rumor going around that the other nine people in

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<v Speaker 2>the room are gay. I wouldn't want those people who

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<v Speaker 2>I think are gay to find out that I'm gay.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be embarrassing. No, it would be liberating because

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<v Speaker 2>all of you would be gay exactly. It makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I don't understand is like, so, now

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<v Speaker 1>was this shit with Puff where it's like Puff is

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<v Speaker 1>just Puff is like the evilest motherfucker in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at all this shit and I'm watching

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<v Speaker 1>the public, like, right, the public really sway and be like,

0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I genuinely think people just tired of seeing cuzz win.

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<v Speaker 1>So now whatever it takes to be like, man, fuck Puff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't genuinely think most people think Puff is a

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<v Speaker 1>bad part Puff don't even now again, Man, how you

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<v Speaker 1>interact with somebody that you don't know is one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Puff do not come across as an asshole to people

0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.720
<v Speaker 1>he don't know, to niggas he know like us. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's because we all gangsters me in age. No

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<v Speaker 1>problem for Compton. I saw the same type of shit

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<v Speaker 1>he knock gonna mistreat us. But I also don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>he could hide who he is. But from all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>some of us is gonna be able to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to pay him out like a bad guy

0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.199
<v Speaker 2>on that show he did on VH one where he

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<v Speaker 2>was like making an artist or I forgot the name of.

0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.200
<v Speaker 1>That show the band making the band.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right. He seemed uh not not the warmest

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<v Speaker 2>and or fuzziest.

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<v Speaker 1>But but I understand why too when you dealer with

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<v Speaker 1>new artists.

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<v Speaker 2>Man like good television.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's also you you he there is a

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<v Speaker 1>reality that you have to be hell bent on winning. Sure,

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.720
<v Speaker 1>and if you don't know shit, motherfuckers who know everything, bro,

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I had the hardest introduction ever coming into the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>Nigga kill Snoop, none of them fucking told me shit. Nobody,

0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.920
<v Speaker 1>none of the legends coolioh, fucking whoever. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? You name niggas didn't tell me nothing. We

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<v Speaker 1>was on our own, and I started a movement like

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<v Speaker 1>we was a part of a movement where I was

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<v Speaker 1>important in the movement that seemed like it was anti

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<v Speaker 1>all of the legends versus the movement was really pro

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<v Speaker 1>everybody coming up and it just you know, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Koch as old as much as Pepsi is the choice

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<v Speaker 1>of the new generation.

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<v Speaker 2>That was from an observer, like that was such a

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<v Speaker 2>weird the LA hip hop scene from an outsider's perspective

0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:34.679
<v Speaker 2>at least this particular outsiders perspective sure was so odd

0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:38.560
<v Speaker 2>in that way. It was like the only city that

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<v Speaker 2>had this kiss the ring culture to antiquated artists by

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<v Speaker 2>and large. I mean not to say that they're not

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<v Speaker 2>good or whatever, or not that their hits are no

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 2>longer interesting or don't have a place, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>like it felt like, all right, this name over here,

0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Joe Blow is like red hot right now. These guys

0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.680
<v Speaker 2>haven't put out a record in ten years, but this

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.919
<v Speaker 2>guy has a ceiling over his head. Until you know,

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<v Speaker 2>those guys over there that his audience don't even care

0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:15.359
<v Speaker 2>about get propped up by it. You know, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It was tough. It was tough to say the least man,

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<v Speaker 1>It was tough as fuck, bro, it was. It was

0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:25.199
<v Speaker 1>like it was hard. But as I came into at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in my career, right we playing music dog

0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:33.159
<v Speaker 1>like you just don't know. And more than anything to

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<v Speaker 1>me is they don't know how to teach, and you seem, honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like more cool with those guys than some of the

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I don't know from Adam, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't It doesn't appear that he really like game used

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.879
<v Speaker 2>to almost to put it over the top, go maybe

0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 2>too far out of his way to try to like

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<v Speaker 2>pay homage. Why G say, I'm the first rapper to

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<v Speaker 2>make it without dre And I don't see him doing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work with older guys and doesn't seem

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 2>like he wants to stay there. And maybe maybe they're

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 2>all great friends. I don't know.

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:09.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, they didn't raise they music didn't raise him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? The Bay would have been

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.360
<v Speaker 1>in his instrumental years, right, the Hive movie like Mustard

0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Mustard YG Tiger Debay is more instrumental, and they're like

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<v Speaker 1>these it like if he's born in nineteen eighty eight

0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.360
<v Speaker 1>or eighty nine or nineteen ninety, two thousand and five,

0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.440
<v Speaker 1>six seven. As far as West Coast hip hop, Heife

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:41.960
<v Speaker 1>carried the Whole Coast game had a significant stance produced

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<v Speaker 1>by Doctor Drebill. Remember Battlecat didn't offer any artists, and

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<v Speaker 1>like from two thousand and three forward, he didn't offer

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<v Speaker 1>any artist where he executive produced the shit and put

0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:54.000
<v Speaker 1>out a groupe of music. His brother, you know, Mike

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:57.960
<v Speaker 1>stro like, he didn't really make that his business. Warren

0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't offer any new artists from two thousand to three four,

0:22:00.720 --> 0:22:03.760
<v Speaker 1>DJ Quick didn't offer any new artists two thousand and

0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.959
<v Speaker 1>three four. Wow was that I don't know, you know what,

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do a podcast with all of them and

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna ask him, like, why the fuck would you

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:14.600
<v Speaker 1>not be producing whole albums on artists. Remember the last

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:18.440
<v Speaker 1>offering Battlecap gave us was the East Siders, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much instrumental in the production of both of

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:25.160
<v Speaker 1>their albums. DJ Quick Sugar Free, like that was pretty

0:22:25.200 --> 0:22:29.200
<v Speaker 1>much the last artist he offered. Warren g was probably.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know himself, and it seemed like That's also

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:37.240
<v Speaker 2>interesting thing from from that book. I was saying, I

0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.879
<v Speaker 2>just wrapped up. But it was like, you know the

0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:44.000
<v Speaker 2>perception of supply and demand, but it's like supply precede demand.

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 2>You have to put a supply of so people to

0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.719
<v Speaker 2>have a demand for it. To me, it just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of seemed like that sound just kind of ran its

0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:56.880
<v Speaker 2>course and there wasn't the market for it. Really, it's

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>crazy you to say that they just.

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<v Speaker 1>It never ran its course, like they stopped serving it

0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to the next generation. Nobody ever got tired of the East.

0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Nobody ever got tired of Snoop and battle Cat. Nobody

0:23:09.640 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was like, man, that's enough. Nobody ever got tired of

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Stoop and Dre. Nobody ever said that's enough them motherfuckers.

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>As a creative, if you wake up and you be like,

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:22.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to do something else or I'm pursuing something different,

0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So it wasn't like niggas

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>got tired of battle Cat sound, a Quick sound or

0:23:27.160 --> 0:23:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Warren sound or jelly Roll sound or you know, any

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.800
<v Speaker 1>slip DJ slip from Comms mulst one. Nobody got tired

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.639
<v Speaker 1>of they sound Rick Rock, none of them. But what

0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:42.120
<v Speaker 1>happened was they stopped producing for younger artists now, not completely,

0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:44.120
<v Speaker 1>because I'm sure I got a song from battle Cat

0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and five. Different people got songs from

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>DJ Quick. But it's different when DJ Quick presents it

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>sugar free, it's different when Battlecat is nine to ten

0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:54.879
<v Speaker 1>songs on the east side of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I mean, that's basically like bird Man putting

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 2>out on the menu. Turkwayne, Juvie, BG, et cetera. And

0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>that's just putting out on the menu Drake, Nikki, et cetera,

0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>et cetera, et cetera.

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>But don't look at it as the exec look at

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it as the music. So backing up, right, So backing

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 1>up to the point I was making was what.

0:24:18.000 --> 0:24:19.720
<v Speaker 2>It would have been different if he did one Drake

0:24:19.840 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>song for Drake and spposed to saying about your whole

0:24:22.359 --> 0:24:23.160
<v Speaker 2>fucking album.

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Facts right, Well, forty forty does overseers all album and

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 1>forty is magnificent like that producer that Drake uses. But

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<v Speaker 1>back back up, I digress. So as far as y

0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>g and them, they didn't really grow up to that

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 1>sound that we that me and Gang grew up to.

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.679
<v Speaker 1>It's a different sound that they they grew up to, Hyphi.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:46.800
<v Speaker 2>It's weird because their music doesn't sound like it. All

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:48.920
<v Speaker 2>their music sounds like they grew up to the Clicks

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>first album in like ninety seven or some shit like that.

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 1>What's funny is that the Bay Area can hear it

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>and they talk about it all the time. But that's

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:58.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing when you run the coast. But ye, but

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.679
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like. It doesn't sound like the Federation, it

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:05.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like Kick. It's it's so so yet not now.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying right when like I'm different, and uh

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 1>uh cop so so so cook it. That's all hype,

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that's all heyfe you know what I'm saying. So, but

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that's also when the Bay Area was dominating the party

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:31.199
<v Speaker 1>scene in California completely, So their music sounds like it.

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>But back up to the original point, you know what

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's like, I know what it's like coming

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>in the business and not having you know, nobody to

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>tell you what's right and wrong. So even when I'm

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.480
<v Speaker 1>looking at somebody like like a Puff, so back to

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the point of making a band, because that's where he

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:53.199
<v Speaker 1>was at. Right, It's like Nigga, I didn't even know

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>what Battlecat new. It took me for years to figure

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.400
<v Speaker 1>out what battle Cat new. So I'm not looking even now.

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 1>The more I know, I don't think Puff put them

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>band niggas through shit, if all. The worst thing they

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:07.520
<v Speaker 1>had to do because was be on TV and Walton

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Juniors to get a G's cake. They won. I took

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>my whole thirties off Nigga to figure this shit out,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>my whole thirties, my whole thirty I turned forty four.

0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean this week, I took all of my thirties

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>to learn to get to a space, to know with Puff, No.

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean and making the band, it sort of

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.280
<v Speaker 2>would be like, you know, like Shark Tank. Yeah, they're ay,

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.959
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to assess not just the how great is

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:36.919
<v Speaker 2>the clothing line you've come up with, but it's like

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>how I'm investing in you, I'm investing in the entrepreneur,

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, but that guy's already gone through the process

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 2>to vet whether he's got the chops or not. Where

0:26:47.720 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 2>it would be like me going up to Mark Cuban,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 2>I want to start a company and him having to

0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>vet how serious I am, you know, without showing up

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.679
<v Speaker 2>with the company and already having a vet how serious

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 2>I am? You know, he has to really kind of

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:06.240
<v Speaker 2>go do the high school football tryouts on that show

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 2>is kind of what it was.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, So that's why I don't so even that

0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.000
<v Speaker 1>version of Puff that people would look at as a villain.

0:27:13.000 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't look at Puff like that, especially because I

0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:18.919
<v Speaker 1>have the information. Now if you ignorant, you're looking Puffing

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:20.760
<v Speaker 1>like me, he's a dick. He made them niggas walk

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and get that cheesecake. It's like, bro, if that's the

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>max they had to pay for to get what they

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>got to be around this motherfucking his information. As far

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>as this business, it was cheap a fucking walk a

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>couple of fuck out the which I wish. I wish

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>doctor Dre would have told me, Glads, I need you

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.239
<v Speaker 1>to like we in Studio City, at his studio, at

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:42.439
<v Speaker 1>Studio one, He's like, you need to walk to fucking

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Compton to give me a fucking barbecue from off of

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 1>a you know, the the uh, what's the fucking place,

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the new spot corner. It's a barbecue spot on the

0:27:53.800 --> 0:27:56.399
<v Speaker 1>corner and count I would have walked in, but it

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>only looks bad when you ignorant on what he about

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 1>to give you. So again like, I can't imagine Puff business.

0:28:04.840 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Hella villain this whole time, and nobody saw ship. Nobody

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>saw ship. You mean to tell me so even.

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>With Casie and Kim, all those people, everybody who would

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>have expired career, no offense to those people. They love

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 2>to get a cash cash in on. I'm gonna tell

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 2>you how bad Puff is. And because I could use

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a million dollars today that happened.

0:28:31.880 --> 0:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just this weird space to where everybody I don't

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 1>know if it's the social media culture of it all

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:40.960
<v Speaker 1>because there is a culture forming on social media kick

0:28:41.000 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucking when he down.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 2>There's I mean, I think it's all an expansion of

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it to be blud People not gonna want to hear it.

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>It's an expansion of of what is now a taught

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 2>in Marxist mentality in America that says that nobody who

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>achieves anything, or creates anything, or produces anything did so

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>because they were smarter, or they worked harder, or they

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>were disciplined than anybody else. You had to be an

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 2>asshole and fuck over a bunch of people otherwise you're

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.440
<v Speaker 2>just like Joe Blow the cashier at Walgreens. And that's

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>not true. But the second they get an opportunity to

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>validate that perspective, they all go at it like piranhas.

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, but it's personally for them to make excuse

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 1>for their shortcomings. The average person. I genuinely think the

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>average person does that to validate why they didn't make it. Well,

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>why it's not life not I.

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>Wasn't such a good person.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I could have been a piece of shit too, Yeah,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.640
<v Speaker 1>piece of shit you over there smashing them cheeseburgers and

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 1>shit at McDonald for you server so no, it's just hard,

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 1>like Puff raping a bunch of benches. I'm not riding, bro,

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not riding. I'm not right. I'm not riding

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>at Puffs too easy. I'm not riding that Puff is

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>raping a bunch of bitches. And everybody is just cool.

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Everybody want to be down, so they're not saying them

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.400
<v Speaker 1>because it got to be at least one glasses over there,

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Like there's no way I'd be in a circle with

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>mac Tin, or I'll be in a circle with bird Man,

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>or I'll be a circle in Little Wayne, and it's

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 1>some old whole ass shit happen.

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Have to not have anybody around that he came up with,

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>not one, because if you had one person around that

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 2>you came up with, that person would have to be

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:33.760
<v Speaker 2>solid because you're thinning out people as you go. So

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 2>if anybody was from Harlem that rolled with him, that

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>person would be solid. That's why they'd be there. Otherwise

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 2>it's like, oh, you guys aren't doing anything. I'm going

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>and doing all this. You guys hang back there.

0:30:47.000 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And there's nobody coming out, and it's so weird because

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>people aren't coming out and saying like and to the

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>sheep mentality is like nobody's saying he a good person

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>because he's a bad person. It's like, that's just saying true.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>There is nobody he even so let's say he was

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 1>an evil person. It's at least some motherfuckers he food.

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Where are those people?

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the other Yeah, like where, well, I mean, are

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>there to the extent we've said, where is faith? Whereas Ken?

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 2>Where sees where all these people? You know, you don't

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 2>hear him out for all these years previously that mouthed

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 2>the guy, I haven't paid a mountain of attention to

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the situation. Have any of those people been like, Huff's

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a pretty solid guy. What are you guys doing? Any

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>detractors from the accusation? Hurricane or no? Not it that's disappointing.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I think I don't think that's

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>in correlation that he just I don't think that means

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>he's a bad person.

0:31:46.120 --> 0:31:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Disappointing in puffs, disappointing in them.

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Especially all these people lives he changed. Yeah, for the

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>life of me, even with like Mace, I can't get it.

0:31:56.280 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, bro, I'm a fuck what you feel l

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:04.040
<v Speaker 1>us or like blah blah blah, like this motherfucker didn't

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>passed out more hits. The motherfuckers, some of these motherfuckers

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 1>never had another hit for nobody else. And they'll be like,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 1>well stop me. Yeah, like Rob passed, damn it Rob

0:32:14.000 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>for short, Like nah, Rob probably stood up.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>For I walked right into that rake.

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's all good.

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I was a fan of his.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Man Puffish Puff one of them dudes. Man that didn't

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.600
<v Speaker 1>put on a lot of people. Gave a lot of opportunities.

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And you can't just sit up here and tell the

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Locks if he got into it, if he well, they

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>was so the Lock situation. I remember Jaden. It was

0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>mad because puff had they publish, He bought their publishers.

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>He what their published bought, their published bought.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:45.959
<v Speaker 2>Who do you buy it from?

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>From the Locks?

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>So if they if he bought it from them, they

0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>regret selling it. Oh they regret getting the money?

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, I just they thought to themselves they got it.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't Now that they have reassessed the deal ten years later,

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:05.440
<v Speaker 1>they was like, oh, it's probably worth.

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>They spent the money instead of investing it in an

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>asset that would grow at a parallel rate, and now

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>they have sour grapes because they didn't invest their money,

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 2>because they could have gone and bought an apartment building

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>and they'd be just fine.

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.960
<v Speaker 1>There to the big home state. I've said it, so

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not against it. I can't wait till we talked

0:33:23.720 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to Styles, you know what I mean, and talked to Jaden.

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Styles is that's another guy. Styles in two thousand and

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>two was my favorite stole. They were were talking about

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Tash earlier. You could catch me with Styles and Tash

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 2>playing in the car two thousand and two, probably four

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>out of seven days in a week.

0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Styles, Styles p was crazy is how good Shechicenn

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>got over the time. But it is weird at this point.

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But this is the same thing Sug was going through.

0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 1>There was nobody speaking enough for Sug when he was

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>going through all this shit and this people should change

0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 1>their life, Sug. Listen, Sug got some more like every

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.479
<v Speaker 1>other La Street nigga in the history of Los Angeles County,

0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>all every last street nigga got they little bullshit that

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they been fucked up, and some of them it's a

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>little worse than others, but a motherfucker like Sugar and

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.600
<v Speaker 1>there's so many great things for people, and to not

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 1>watch nobody come up and ever stand up, Like when

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>these black people be going through this shit and it

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>be black people that looked out. But I'll be just

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 1>thinking they be waiting for this motherfucker to fall down

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>so they could try to get in the spot. But

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 1>what they don't get is they could never get in

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the spot because they didn't They wasn't willing to sacrifice,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>because it was willing to sacrifice to get there. Like

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the shit Puff know about records? Bro is trust me, man,

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.759
<v Speaker 1>this is somebody who make records. Like the shit this

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker know about records, Bro, it's probably ain't even ten

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers in the music business that know about records like him.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 2>He knows. He's a guy who has had a great

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 2>feel for the pulse of consumer psychology since he was

0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty years old. There are not many people out

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 2>there like that. They just understand, all right, what are

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 2>these fifty million people going to want? In six months?

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>He'll be like, they're gonna want that. He's gonna be

0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>right every time.

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Puff is tough, Puff tough as fuck, Puff is cold.

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>But I just I don't get it. Bro, And you

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.720
<v Speaker 1>can't convince me he's satan. He just been walking around,

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.400
<v Speaker 1>because if he just been satan this whole time and

0:35:30.440 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>he been walking around all you motherfuckers, all you motherfuckers's bitches.

0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, quite honestly, being frank, number people over

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>there have been shot. I don't remember anybody shooting him.

0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true, I mean I don't know. It's just getting

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 1>worse and worse, and the longer I'm in the entertainment business.

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 1>Do I think it's some things happening?

0:35:58.160 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>Bro?

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes? Do I think it's so awful? An awful lot

0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of people on drugs? Fuck yeah. But also in the

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 1>streets it's certain homies. This is how I know why

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 1>everybody don't fuck with me all the time. They fuck

0:36:10.200 --> 0:36:11.879
<v Speaker 1>with me when they see me, but they don't want

0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>me around because I'm sober, this nigga not drinking nothing,

0:36:15.280 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 1>this nigga not doing no dope. They don't want me around.

0:36:18.480 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I respect that it. Maybe some of these people are

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>gay and they don't want me around because because they

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>know I'm not, you know, on no gay ship.

0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 2>That's weird because like the sober part, Mook came over

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>here and we were sitting around isn't even here. I

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 2>could sit around and drink all goddamnit.

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Over there, but everybody had this perception of who I am,

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm judgmental, and I'm like because of how we'll

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:46.800
<v Speaker 1>have a conversation and I'll be like, man, that shit done.

0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:48.800
<v Speaker 1>That don't mean I'm saying nothing to you. Why you're drinking.

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the fuck you're going through or

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you might be going through this fill Yeah, I just

0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:59.919
<v Speaker 1>I'll get it, man. I don't get the whole puss

0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>shit bro That shit just crazy. Now. It's like pick

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 1>on Puff week cause it's pick on Puff day. Puff

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't shit fuck puff. And I just don't like the

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>mob mentality.

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's for sure. And everybody with an opportunity to

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>sound like no, no, I'm moral, is superior. Look at

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 2>me address this problem. Yeah, so anybody knows that I'm

0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 2>against it.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It get worse and worse. I don't

0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:26.879
<v Speaker 1>know what to do no more.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Like It's like I just wake up every day and

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I look at Twitter because I just shake my head, like,

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.520
<v Speaker 1>fuck man, these people are just goofy. They won't even

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:37.759
<v Speaker 1>have a personal thought. But it goes back to that

0:37:37.880 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>pod wolves, sheep and shepherd. You know what I mean.

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>You see the sheep mentality all the time. You see

0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:48.840
<v Speaker 1>the sheep mentality the whole time. Every fucking body's a sheep.

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me go with what everybody else is saying. Let

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.040
<v Speaker 1>me go with everybody else is saying. Let me say

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 1>what everybody else is saying. On Puff is bad on

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Puffed at this, And I like, I'll say some of

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the comments, like you know, Puff fucked over all these artists?

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Which artists did he fucked over? Nigga told me, well,

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Big didn't have no money when he died.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Big.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>First off, his first record took so much fucking work, right,

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>His first record took the song that's the hit record

0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 1>is Puff's idea. It's not Bigg's idea. Right, he didn't

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>produce it, he wrote it. So it's like when people

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>say shit like, oh, well he didn't have this, he

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that, And I'm like, what the fuck does

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:26.320
<v Speaker 1>that have to do with Puff?

0:38:26.680 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, like back at that time, like you know, the

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 2>album and stuff came out, but the tour and all

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 2>that shit hadn't happened yet. So like his monetization vehicle

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>hadn't left court, you know what I mean?

0:38:42.360 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>The same thing with Tupac. Yeah, Tupac, Tupac, Like I

0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>was trying to explain it to the hommy right, Tupac

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 1>situation is, Tupac gets out of prison in October November

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>ninety five. He's in the studio the first day he

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:01.799
<v Speaker 1>comes home, and every day to the album is out right,

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:05.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is how much studio bill he racking up.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Let's say at that time that studio bill two thousand dollars.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:10.400
<v Speaker 1>It's probably a little bit more at this time, but

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>let's say it's two thousand dollars a day. Let's say

0:39:13.000 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 1>this motherfucking the studio one hundred days. That's two hundred

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:18.839
<v Speaker 1>thousand to be in the studio. Let's say to get

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>him out of jail, I think his bill was one

0:39:20.640 --> 0:39:23.280
<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars. Let's say that's one point seven

0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Let's say everything they had to pay for it, right,

0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah. Let's say he comes home, they give

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 1>him half a million dollars or six hundred thousand. Let's

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:32.879
<v Speaker 1>say he kicked that bill. He right at two point

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.719
<v Speaker 1>five two point six million. The start right now, you're

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 1>shooting videos now you're paying the producers on the album, right, other.

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:41.240
<v Speaker 2>People will come feature on the song some shot. Snoop

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>didn't jump off.

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Snoop jumped on his free part of the come man.

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>Pop wrote in his contract Snoop needed to jump on

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>like Pop wrote this handwritten in his contracts.

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>He cited specifically in the contract.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.919
<v Speaker 1>Snoop needs to be on a single single for free

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 1>or no no no it no no, he to be

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>on it. This is a part of shit, like Pok's contract.

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>A feature from Snoop and a remix from dre.

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.760
<v Speaker 2>So for free.

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't think they'd charged him because I think

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of respect for Pok. I know

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Snoop for sure did, because he was already out the

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>gate before Snoop started. But even then, Right, let's say

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>he and the record three million dollars. Let's say he

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 1>and all his debt three million dollars. I think his

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>number was a dollar. He wrote it in a contract, right,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:36.359
<v Speaker 1>one dollar per album. Right, let's say videos, everything else,

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>Let's say and all this shit. The album come out

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:44.840
<v Speaker 1>February fourteenth, nineteen ninety six. The first the first statement

0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is six months, six months, So that's August. Yeah, let's

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 1>say at that point, let's say he was due. Let's

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>say he was three four million dollars. Like his split

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of the money was three four million dollars at that

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>time where he was at sales. He he ain't getting

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a dime every month. She'll given him one hundred thousand

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>dollars every month. Let's say he ain't that motherfucker four

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:11.799
<v Speaker 1>five million dollars his first statement. The nigga didn't last

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>thirty days past his first statement, like his first invoice

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 1>to balance the royalties. It's six months February fifteenth, August fifteenth, right,

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 1>he dies before September fifteen. I think he's down on fourteenth.

0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>So like his first statement, he would have probably just

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.759
<v Speaker 1>been breaking even, which is fantastic. Sure, it's fantastic to

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>break even on your first statement. Nigga takes a lot

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>of lot of people lie longer. First statement. He break even.

0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't supposed to have no money. But motherfuckers don't

0:41:44.719 --> 0:41:47.160
<v Speaker 1>care about doing the math. So that's why I don't

0:41:47.200 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>listen to them. She'll give it this man one hundred thousand.

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:54.759
<v Speaker 1>Look at Snoop situation, Bro Snoop Snoop comes out his shit.

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Ain't like Pocket saw some records. O' pak was able

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to get a dollar and make some stipulation. Snoo shit

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:05.759
<v Speaker 1>probably a quarter twenty five cent. Right. Let's say they

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 1>and Snoop record a million dollars between videos and making album, right,

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever it costs, right, then a million dollars, the nigga

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 1>goes to jail. His baill is a couple of million

0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars at Tourney's a million dollars everything. Let's say here

0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>and that shit four five million dollars. Snoop getting fifty

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 1>to one hundred thousand dollars a month, but nobody is

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.760
<v Speaker 1>coming out and saying, Sug wasn't that bad of a dude.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.800
<v Speaker 1>It's because I think it's because everybody wants these people

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 1>to fall to get into their position, and I think

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that's what we happened. That's what's happening with Puff. Whereas

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:40.560
<v Speaker 1>like nobody coming out and being a solid nigga be like, man,

0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that ain't the Puff. I know, yeah, ain't no way

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>Puff did all these people fucked up and then now

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 1>nobody liked you. No, these niggas is lying down. And

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I told Envy this when I was

0:42:52.680 --> 0:42:55.560
<v Speaker 1>at shout out to DJ Envy because at at a

0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Power one or five in New York Breakfast Club, Ross

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>is kicking cuz cause he down. Now, Rose is a nigga.

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Everybody know Rose and my top five love Rose. Rose

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>gave me the feature. It wasn't for free, but he

0:43:09.280 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 1>gave me the feature. He's a really great man personally,

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.480
<v Speaker 1>like Rose is a great man personally, But to be

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 1>kicking a nigga when he down, it's some bitch ass shit.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>So like he talking shit about Envy when Envy dealing

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.120
<v Speaker 1>with this shit with the nigga that was his partner

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:25.919
<v Speaker 1>that's in trouble, and now it's like it's a joke

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.240
<v Speaker 1>about Envy when he down. I don't like that cuz

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm not That ain't no real man shit. That ain't

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:34.720
<v Speaker 1>no real nigga shit. That's that bullshit for they laws

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of power shit. See that's why I accept it out

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of fifty cent because fifty cent is a fucking you know,

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.920
<v Speaker 1>he's a fucking a what do you call apostle of

0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>that book? You know, what's the people who followed jesusug Oh, yeah,

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a disciple of that book. That's cuz book he's

0:43:52.560 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>a disciple of that book, so I let fifth do

0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 1>his thing. And I ain't got much to say because

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>that's his book. But I'm watching like a nigga, like Ross,

0:43:59.239 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 1>why would you be kicked? Cause when he damned?

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:06.759
<v Speaker 2>It's almost kind of that we see now. It's like

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 2>the if you get the guy's got a bad and

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 2>he's a bad dude. I don't like the guy, but

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 2>scary scary genius. Like you're a lot of people that

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I look at and go, that guy is a scary genius.

0:44:19.920 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>George Soros. D That's it. That guy is a scary genius.

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Dude. Thats not the dude. That's not the dude that's

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>in politics.

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.879
<v Speaker 2>The guy who buys politicians. Yeah that guy.

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what's the other the other guy that just got

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. No gay guy, chubby gay guy.

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's like Suarez or something like that, Sanchez who

0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 2>just got kicked out of Congress. Yea yeah, yeah, different guy,

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:44.880
<v Speaker 2>but a lot.

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>Of his talking about the wealthy dude that.

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I a super rich guy. But he talks about investing

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 2>on feedback loops. You most investors understand something, so that

0:44:55.600 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>so whatever people are saying, oh the word is housing

0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>is going up, and it always feel buy housing because it's

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>going because the next guy bought well, that guy bought it,

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 2>so it's going up. So I'm gonna buy it because

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going up. Well because you know, just mindless group

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>think yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, it's just kind

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.800
<v Speaker 2>of a product of the same thing. It's like, well,

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 2>because the feedback loop is moving in this direction, I

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.399
<v Speaker 2>as rick, I'm gonna throw my money in and let

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the let the sheep carry carry my you know whatever

0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>it is, my money or my value or my virality

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.000
<v Speaker 2>in the same direction. But there's one question I have

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 2>as far as goes this is kind of interesting. I'd

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>like to kind of explore because there's you know, there's

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>there's urban legend theories galore on the Biggie killing, and

0:45:54.480 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody looked at it as a reality

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 2>as a revenge claim for pocket. I think that's that's ridiculous.

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.919
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people think that, a lot of people

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.760
<v Speaker 2>think I'm saying that. People close to the situation.

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that you think that, Yeah, I think so.

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I just I wouldn't publicly like say it all, but

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I think so because there was no reason for him

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to die.

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:22.600
<v Speaker 2>That leads me to the other theory. There was a

0:46:22.600 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of people who I think thought that Puff set

0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 2>it up so that he could have it.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Is odd because Puff owned all that shit no matter what. Yeah,

0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:33.759
<v Speaker 1>he didn't need Big to die to own none of

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that ship. I mean, that don't make sense. But back

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>to the point, I lost it when he was chopping

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it up about it because it it slipped my mind.

0:46:40.920 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>But I was saying this to envy about Rosslam. I'm like,

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:46.960
<v Speaker 1>this is the type of niggas y'all put on. This

0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>is the type of nigg like I tell Charla Man,

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 1>I tell different I tell different people. I'm like, bro,

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>watch who y'all really at least put on a solid Yeah,

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.239
<v Speaker 1>because if you don't put on a solid, man, you

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 1>get that, you get a nigga kicking you when you

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>down doing weird shit. You know what I mean? That

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:08.759
<v Speaker 1>shit is under That ain't cool, daw, that ain't even cool.

0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>It ain't player. Cus. I don't give fuck what a

0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>nigga did to me, bro Like, I don't give fuck

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what was said. Bro Thug. Young Thug is a perfect

0:47:16.680 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>example of a nigga dish cribs and niggas had they

0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.359
<v Speaker 1>conversations and all of that. Man, I wouldn't say nothing

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.200
<v Speaker 1>about that man. That man fighting the case, you know

0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:26.839
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. I don't got nothing to say about

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:29.640
<v Speaker 1>cuz because niggas is really fight for their lives. So

0:47:29.719 --> 0:47:32.240
<v Speaker 1>to watch envy for cuz for ross to no envy

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 1>going through that and then like, oh, you know you

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>making jokes, Bro, that's some weird shit. Get your shit together, bro,

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:41.400
<v Speaker 1>This ain't that fucking rap shit. This real, Cuz this

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:44.600
<v Speaker 1>ain't no joke Like this ain't the time, my nigga.

0:47:44.600 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>This is the time where you hit a nigga. This

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>is the time where you hit a nigga. And I

0:47:47.800 --> 0:47:49.520
<v Speaker 1>don't give fuck what y'all went through. Hey, bro, you

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>all right, cause nigga, you a black man. If you

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.760
<v Speaker 1>come from where we come from, you know how fucked

0:47:54.840 --> 0:47:58.000
<v Speaker 1>up this shit get. You know how fucked up. If

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:00.440
<v Speaker 1>you from the street, bro, you know how fucked up

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.240
<v Speaker 1>she can go. You know how she can't go left.

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>So if this ain't the time, I don't fuck what you

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>got going on with this, nigga. This is the time

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.200
<v Speaker 1>you call that brother and be like, hey, cause you

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:09.919
<v Speaker 1>straighten my nigga, I know y'all we on some shit,

0:48:09.960 --> 0:48:12.439
<v Speaker 1>but man, I ain't Finna, and I hope the best

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>for you, bro, I don't want you to, But these

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 1>niggas get in front of the general public, and that's

0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:20.759
<v Speaker 1>the difference. That's why that whole conversation about sheep, the

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<v Speaker 1>wolf's sheep and shepherd was important because that's the separation

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<v Speaker 1>between a wolf and a shepherd. A wolf is rounding

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<v Speaker 1>everybody up, rounding all the sheep up to get in

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<v Speaker 1>a position to eat. A shepherd is leading people to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's why.

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<v Speaker 1>You eat, because you're leading sheep to better pastures.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean that's that's why you have to somehow

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<v Speaker 2>find out who's going to complain and be resentful of

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 2>going for a long walk for a cheesecake fast. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're weeding out mindsets, you're weeding out of a

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<v Speaker 2>mentality somebody. If you're in that position to where you're

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<v Speaker 2>at the threshold of opportunity and the key bearer asked

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<v Speaker 2>you to go get a goddamn slice of cake and

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<v Speaker 2>you're self righteous enough to resent the request, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the problem of the guy holding the key, true, But.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that sense of entitlement. Yeah, it's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>entitlement for sure in the entertainment industry, and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it. Like sometimes I'll be worthy, like, damn was

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<v Speaker 1>that me? Did I think iceqbe owe me? Some did

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<v Speaker 1>I think? Snoop? I don't in my mind, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I felt like that, But I guess to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree from a street level, I felt like it was something.

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<v Speaker 1>But maybe that's what it is. It's like a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of entitlement, you know what I mean. Like even with

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<v Speaker 1>all this shit going on with Puff now, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>people who felt like Puff didn't do this for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or Puff you know, should have did this for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just all entitled. That makes you not stand

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<v Speaker 1>up and be a man and really stand by somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in those moments when you need them. It don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go to prison with cuz, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If he did something wrong, cuz and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a legal cubs gonna go to jail by himself.

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<v Speaker 1>It don't matter if you stand up with him or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's another thing to feed that brother some shit

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:21.719
<v Speaker 1>behind the scenes and publicly, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool. Maybe it is. Niggas call him puff behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, like you know what, puff, bro man, I

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<v Speaker 1>got your back. But it's also a time to stand

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<v Speaker 1>with that brother right now, especially all these fucking geeks

0:50:31.800 --> 0:50:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that cubs changed their life. Yeah, made millionaires, made famous,

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>made it to where they'll never work a nine to five,

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I get Mark Curry problem,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it didn't go as good for him,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, whatever moment you had my

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 1>nigga was fantastic compared to what other people in this

0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:53.400
<v Speaker 1>business don't never get the chance to get, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. So it's it's it's it's almost unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, kick this nigga when he down, kicking whin

0:51:00.560 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 1>he damn. And I really think social media just fucked

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<v Speaker 1>it up because it didn't used to be that bad before,

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<v Speaker 1>like it would be it'd be mixed opinions and mixed thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, motherfucker had to deal with their own

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<v Speaker 1>court cases and shit, you know what I mean. But

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<v Speaker 1>now it's a space where it's like people so scared

0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to say something because they don't want a bunch of

0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:22.919
<v Speaker 1>people to cyber bully them or tweet them some negative shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if I say something that people feel like stands

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<v Speaker 1>up for R Kelly, which I don't say nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>stands up. I just take the truth into consideration. People.

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<v Speaker 1>First thing a motherfuckernna say is oh well you must

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>be it. It's like, bitch, shut upbody care what you think?

0:51:38.080 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that's some ignorant shit you I mean, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't like kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just like just be reasonable for ten seconds. If

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:52.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a legitimate pedophile and another guy gets in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>for being a pedophile, are you.

0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Gonna be be drum?

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna be dead fucking asked silent. You're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to advocate for any element of it. You are going

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:07.839
<v Speaker 2>to sit there and try to blend in with the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, uh, people just they're weird. I don't know

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:20.040
<v Speaker 2>what to make him all the time, but like who

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 2>trying to think, Like there's a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 2>puff made, Like like Craig Mac, you know, is he

0:52:27.239 --> 0:52:32.279
<v Speaker 2>still is he alive now? And I gotta ask after

0:52:32.320 --> 0:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I missed on Black Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I could dig it, cup say that one.

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 2>John Craig Mac is still alive? I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>a catalog all the people that that puff.

0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>No, Craig passed away, he did?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I thought he did.

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Craig passed away for sure. Yeah, I don't know, man,

0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:01.319
<v Speaker 1>he just get worse and worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Dog, I mean even like and he's not even a

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:11.520
<v Speaker 2>street guy. But like you saw, like Ashton Kutcher had

0:53:11.560 --> 0:53:13.360
<v Speaker 2>that co star from his show Get in Trouble for

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:17.160
<v Speaker 2>like something with kids. Oddly enough, I don't remember what

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the hell it was. Yeah, but Ashton stood up for

0:53:19.719 --> 0:53:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the dude until the conviction. Then he was like, well,

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:25.799
<v Speaker 2>I didn't really want to believe he was doing all

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:27.239
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff. He'd been a good friend of

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:28.799
<v Speaker 2>mine for a long time. But if he's doing all

0:53:28.840 --> 0:53:30.719
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, then can't be doing that kind

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>of shit. But it wasn't like the first day that

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.239
<v Speaker 2>the accusation came out, he was like, fine, I fuck

0:53:35.320 --> 0:53:36.840
<v Speaker 2>kept gett him away from you the no he like,

0:53:36.880 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 2>I kept him on his show. He stood up for

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 2>him that Once the evidence came pouring into court, he

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 2>was like, shit, well I didn't know he was doing

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.120
<v Speaker 2>all that. I didn't want to believe it. Not for

0:53:47.120 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 2>too long, you know, there's no benefit. He gave the

0:53:50.320 --> 0:53:52.200
<v Speaker 2>guy benefit of the doubt. He gave him, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in his sent until proven guilty kind of you know approach.

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<v Speaker 2>There's none of that with this, None of that with this.

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<v Speaker 1>None of that. Good looking out for tuning in to

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