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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lalli. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and it is a Wednesday here kind of

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Speaker 1: a lull. Yeah in the NFL. Right now, it's like it's.

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Speaker 2: An next al. Yeah, we relax a little bit. Then,

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Speaker 2: I know the Steelers are doing I mean now every

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Speaker 2: team is, you know, still doing stuff. But it might

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Speaker 2: be you know, position coaches digging into draft stuff from now,

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Speaker 2: you know, behind the scenes and taking a step back

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Speaker 2: and reformulating your plans. Or boy that free agents still

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Speaker 2: out there and wonder if we should give him a call,

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Speaker 2: or you know that type of thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you start to reassess and maybe start to look

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Speaker 1: at some guys a little closer that maybe he didn't

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Speaker 1: have as high on your board. They look at them all,

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Speaker 1: they know who they all are, of course obviously, but

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Speaker 1: you start to look at it and say, Okay, can

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Speaker 1: we live with this guy or do we have to

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Speaker 1: wait until the draft or do we start to explore

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Speaker 1: a trade?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. And from a player's perspective, you're like,

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Speaker 2: now I'm starting to get a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I was going to get this and now I'm not, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Asking too much? Is this knee concerned learning people more

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Speaker 2: than it should. Am I not a good scheme fit

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Speaker 2: for the team searching for my position? You know, what's

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Speaker 2: the deal here? Like, I'm sure those guys aren't nervous

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Speaker 2: that they will be unemployed this year. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: the top guys of course, and I'm sure they've had

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Speaker 2: some kind of offers. But you might have some regrets

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Speaker 2: right now too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you didn't take that first uh, that first

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Speaker 1: you know, contract offer, and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: things happened, the team moved in a different direction. So

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Speaker 1: looking at what the Steelers have done thus far this offseason, guys,

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Speaker 1: they released Mits Trubisky, Presley Harvin Chokes, a corps for

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Speaker 1: Mason Cole, Kean O'Neil, Patrick Peterson, and Alan Robinson. A

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Speaker 1: couple of yeah, a couple of those guys have signed

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Speaker 1: elsewhere Trubisky and a corps for too. Yeah, as the

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Speaker 1: other guys are all still out there. They signed re

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Speaker 1: signed Braden Fajeko.

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Speaker 2: That's having underreported but semi important one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, right then they re signed Miles Killerbrew,

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Speaker 1: re signed Montrevius Adams. So that's some of them. They're

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Speaker 1: done it nose their own guys. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, they're

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Speaker 1: done at nose and done it. Punter obviously signed Cameron Johnston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we'll hear from him a little bit later here

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Speaker 1: in the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You got a chance to talk to him yesterday. Good day,

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Speaker 1: nice Patrick Queen. Johnston was a three year, nine million

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Speaker 1: dollar contract, which is going rate for a veteran punter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get the Super Bowl stability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so you pay for stability, right.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, three years, forty one million dollars, which to

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Speaker 1: me is still a bargain acquired via the trade for

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson Dante Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they've since restructured him too, right, right, Okay, signed,

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Speaker 2: He's only in a one year still, he's a free

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Speaker 2: agent after the season. From what I gathered.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, signed to Shaun Elliott.

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Speaker 2: I like that quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was two years, six million dollars.

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Speaker 2: Which is again kind of the going rate. I don't

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Speaker 2: mean I think it was a solid move, and much

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Speaker 2: like the punter move.

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Speaker 1: Signed Van Jefferson signed. I'm catching a blank hat. There's

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Speaker 1: one more and the quarterback Wilson I'm thinking there's there's

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. And they acquired via tray Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: So the list you're looking at just skipped skipped Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Fields is on there? Where's Wilson at gotcha

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Speaker 1: froze for a second. Yeah, So I'm looking here. At

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, they give their free agency grade a

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Speaker 1: B plus at this point. But there's still more moves

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Speaker 1: that they have to do. Oh yeah, they still need

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Speaker 1: a center. Yes, they still need another wide receiver. Maybe two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's two on the team that are

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Speaker 1: And then you you probably still need a slot cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Some people are saying, well, you know, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they could they could play uh Dante Jackson in the slot.

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, he throws his weight around. He's

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Speaker 2: not bashful, but he's better on the outside. He's a

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Speaker 2: But I mean, of course Minka could do it, but

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Speaker 1: To well, you know, the addition of to Shaun Elliott

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Speaker 2: That's the thing that they have effect. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The thing that they have at safety now is three

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Speaker 2: Like I like Elliott. Moore is a strong but he's

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Speaker 2: played more free. Yeah. So if one out of three

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Speaker 2: So I thought Kyz had a chance to be a

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Speaker 2: I think he's more versatile and more useful.

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Speaker 1: That he's been productive, and yeah, when he's been out there,

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Speaker 2: so you know, when you start a stile cap space. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the draft ahead of us, of course. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: What they did miss out on yesterday was that Mike

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Speaker 1: Williams signed with the Jets fifteen million. I think they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of feared that would be the case.

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Speaker 2: I thought Carolina would be the one that overpaid for him.

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Speaker 1: It would have been you know, it would have been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially because you don't have to give up a

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Speaker 2: I mean he's a good compliment to Wilson, and they

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Speaker 1: Right now, and again, it could have just come down

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Speaker 1: to this thing, you know, like we talked about before,

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Speaker 1: where Okay, the Jets offer fifteen, the Steelers offer twelve,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to spend all that additional three million

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Speaker 1: There's a cost of living that's much greater in New

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Speaker 2: Doubt, no doubt about it. So now the thing I

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Speaker 2: like the Boyd's and Renfros and Reynolds and those guys

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Speaker 2: Boy that's a nice pairing with Pickets.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're still probably trying to draft another outside receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm not so sure it's center. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Field. He doesn't solve your week one problem. No necessarily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the problem with that one.

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Speaker 2: And at that position, you can't really jump on a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's different. I mean, to not take any

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Speaker 1: There really are, and you know, so I think that

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Speaker 2: Are okay entering year three. Do you think about guys

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Speaker 2: know people talk about Ayukku or you know, Wattle. These

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Speaker 2: and I could franchise on like a I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: Here's an intriguing name for you. Okay, Christian Watson, huh okay,

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Speaker 1: second round draft pick in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, has missed some time, He's missed a lot of time,

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Speaker 2: but it's all with the same thing. Yeah, I think it's.

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Speaker 1: A hamstrings, usually a hamstring.

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Speaker 1: And they've they've drafted a bunch of guys, a bunch

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Speaker 1: when he's been on the field, he's been productive.

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Speaker 1: You know, they just keep drafting these guys. You start

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Speaker 2: Here, Jayden Reid, it's been Watson Wis. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: just keep drafting them and you know, right, I've been

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Speaker 2: Those guys kind of make Watson expendable. Yeah. Granted, some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they historically were notoriously don't use first

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Speaker 1: That's the price. Yeah, that's that's how they have to

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Speaker 2: You get him for two more years. I mean he

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Speaker 1: So that's just one that that jumped out to me there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just gave Judy money.

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Speaker 1: Know that those guys those are the kind of receivers

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Speaker 2: No, right, right, But it's a good example of receivers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, then you're a too two at well yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know if they could move on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, in his three first three seasons, he

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Speaker 1: he's done nothing. Yeah, yeah, and when he's you know,

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Speaker 1: with that. The other guy, there's Nico Collins, and Heughes

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Speaker 2: They're going to extend him and make them very rich.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the rest of the guys on here.

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Speaker 1: you start to lose. There just aren't many options.

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Speaker 2: There are many options. I mean, I think the more

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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about that, Like he's a really good player.

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Speaker 2: You know, Diggs has been rumored. What would Deavonte Adams

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Speaker 2: because really what I mean, the Steelers have cap space.

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Speaker 2: I would rather I'd rather keep my draft capital and

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean for this particular team right now,

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Speaker 1: Two other guys that I thought about from Washington and McLaurin.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard some mccluy and stuff this morning. McLaurin.

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Speaker 2: You know, like, I don't even know who's putting this

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Speaker 2: Probably i'd be super interested in him. He's older you think, though,

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Speaker 2: he's a lot older than you think. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: he was like a special teamer at Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: He's already twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: And he's expensive. But I think it'd fit in tremendously.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it'd cost you that much. And if

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Speaker 2: going to pay him, then let's get even more draft

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Speaker 2: capital for him. But or they might look at it

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Speaker 2: like he's a nice piece of the nest for you

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Speaker 2: in your quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Dawson's just didn't play well. I mean, didn't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that question just you know, say, what's

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: To me's a really say a first round draft pick?

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Speaker 1: I said, well, thanks talking They say a second round

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Speaker 2: I'm I think it's more like a third. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: thank you for that contract at that age. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think that's more like a third. So I'm very interesting.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers do have two third round draft

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Speaker 2: Receiver, maybe with or without an addition. Right, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's there's only two on board. I mean, I think tackle, corner,

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Speaker 2: wide out, and center are your top four picks in

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Speaker 1: The problem that the Steelers have right now is that

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Speaker 1: when you list those.

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Speaker 2: Things in order, Yeah, I m I didn't have an order,

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Speaker 1: Tackle might be fourth on that list because you've already

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Speaker 2: Yeah what you can live with? Yeah, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: But it's the position I most want to take in

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Speaker 2: round one, right, it's the richest.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the spot where this draft line is up

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Speaker 1: But you have these glaring holes on your roster that

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Speaker 2: So jeez, you're said and done. This is why Omar

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Speaker 2: does it and we don't. But if you could land

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Speaker 2: somebody that's on the market, that's not bad, but he's

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Speaker 2: not great. I still think you could take the tackle

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Speaker 2: think that's my plan as it stands right now, but

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Speaker 2: I do think another veteran receiver needs to be added

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Speaker 1: The key to that whole thing, though, as you just said,

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Speaker 1: because there's no guarantee he's going to be there at

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Speaker 2: No, and then you're in the Bordolini neighborhood or the

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Speaker 1: They're not plugging play type guys, or.

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Speaker 2: You're calling Mason coleback or something like that, or hey,

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Speaker 2: are who are the ones that we don't talk about

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Speaker 2: You know, like, I know he took snaps there at

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. You know, like if you they've had these conversations.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't it wasn't great?

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I've also heard people say

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's a tackle. That's that's

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Speaker 1: harder to find. Yeah, you know, he's got the length

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Speaker 2: And if I'm drafting round one and I'm putting him

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So these are all questions that remain to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll be on a plane soon. The other thing, too,

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Speaker 2: fourth round tackles or the fifth round you know, whatevers.

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Speaker 2: You know that. Boy, there's a lot in this neighborhood

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Speaker 2: round four, I'd love to be in the running back

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Speaker 2: market in this draft, you know, So there are some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like wide receiver in round three is

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Speaker 2: That's why I kind of struggled with the way I

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Speaker 2: you eat from the depth of receiver and corner. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the nice way to set it up.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I also think they have right now have five picks

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Speaker 1: But you might need one of those picks to get

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Speaker 1: first round.

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Speaker 2: That's why. Also they traded down a few in the

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Speaker 2: first round. Might get you six picks for those four needs.

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Speaker 1: Right, You know, yeah, just the little things that you

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Speaker 1: play with. Ye, let's get to a break. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to the drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We will be back with

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Speaker 1: more right after this. Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolli. He

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson and Matt Bucky Brooks has put

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Speaker 1: out his updated position by position look at this year's draft,

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Speaker 1: and he did some interesting things here, Like he added

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Speaker 1: some positions.

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Speaker 2: He added some positions. Okay, so he has surprised me.

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Speaker 1: Slot receiver. He has slot cornerback listed here as the

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Speaker 1: top five players of both of those positions.

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Speaker 2: Is corner is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I wanted to look at this. So

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position is still Caleb Williams, Jade Daniels, Drake May,

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix. The flip flop McCarthy and Penix.

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Speaker 1: He now has McCarthy four, Pennix five in.

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Speaker 2: Penix five is kind of noteworthy. I mean over Nicks. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a conversation too. Running back. He has

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Speaker 2: so different on the running backs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jonathan Brooks, Trey Benson, Jalen Wright, Blake Korham, Will Shipley.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a big on Shipley, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 2: I think there's better ones than him, but it's not

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Speaker 2: a great class. Shipley's is not very strong. I mean

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Speaker 2: he gets knocked around a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. He also has keep an eye on Bucky Irving okay, Oregon. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver, Marvin Harrison, Roe, Ma Doonzie really Malik Neighbors,

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Speaker 1: Keon Coleman, Brian Thomas. Wow, Okay, that's unchanged from his

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Speaker 1: first time through.

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Speaker 2: I get the Coleman love. I mean I l like

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Speaker 2: Thomas clearly is the four. But yeah, so many people

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Speaker 2: overreact this time of year to subpar or average forty

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Speaker 2: times and there's so many good receivers in recent memory

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Speaker 2: that didn't that ran about what he did. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know Michael Thomas and Keenan Allen, et cetera, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: You know, his guy to keep an eye on is

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Speaker 1: Troy Franklin.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, doesn't block a lick. But other than that that,

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Speaker 2: he's pretty darn good.

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Speaker 1: His slot receiver rankings Lad mcconnny, Ricky Pearsall, who was

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Speaker 1: in for a visit with the Steelers I.

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Speaker 2: Think they're talking to him, right.

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Speaker 1: Roman Wilson, Malachai Corley, Malik Washingtonia Group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like all those guys. They're all a little

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Speaker 2: on the smaller side, but they also have some thickness

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Speaker 2: to him. Yeah, they're And you.

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Speaker 1: Know the thing is like Mconkeye and Wilson have both

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Speaker 1: shown they can play outside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say these guys aren't exclusive thing.

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Speaker 1: Pearsall has been more of a slot, but you know

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Speaker 1: those other I get Corley in the slot, that makes

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Speaker 1: you sense, Yeah, and Washington has to be in the slot.

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Speaker 2: Washington is he's but he's pretty stocky, but you're not

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Speaker 2: going to.

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Speaker 1: Put him outside.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, he is a slot all day long,

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Speaker 2: and I think a good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Keep an eye on Jacob Cowing, another.

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Speaker 2: One of those five eighth receivers, shifty.

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Speaker 1: At tight end. He's got Brock Bowers, Jatavian, Sanders, Cade Stover,

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Speaker 1: THEO Johnson, A J. Barner that that is unchanged his

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Speaker 1: first time.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty standard. I guess most people I think

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Speaker 2: have Johnson third. I had Johnson third.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Ben Senate from k State.

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Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of full back to him too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, offensive tackle, he's got Joe alt one. Talisi Faga

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Speaker 1: now moves.

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Speaker 2: Up to two for really.

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Speaker 1: Uh and he dropped the OLSU down to three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, understandable. Things haven't been real kind to him lately.

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Speaker 1: Amarus Mims at four, j C. Latham at five. I

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Speaker 1: like Latham better than that, but.

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Speaker 2: I do too. I think Latham Latham is my two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's my two as well.

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Speaker 2: Something against I think he's a really good prospect, but

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Speaker 2: they're both pure right tackles, and I would prefer Latham. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then is keep an eye on is another first

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Speaker 1: rounder Troy Fatanu.

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Speaker 2: I thought he might put Fan with the guards was

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Speaker 2: my next question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but clearly the put putting him here at tackle,

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Speaker 1: because that was the question going into the combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that the arm length thing. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know that he has the feet forward as well. No,

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Speaker 2: I think he's a tackle.

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Speaker 1: The interior off sublneman or interior blockers as he calls them.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 1: He's got Graham Barton one. Huh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's a really solid prospect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jackson powers Johnson two, sure, okay, Christian Haynes three,

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Speaker 1: that's up a spot I can see that. I had

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Speaker 1: a Cooper b B who moved down a spot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, maybe tested better than I thought. Yeah, a big

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Speaker 2: mauling guard.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then he has Zach Ziner at five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean I would haved Fraser three or four.

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Speaker 1: Fraser would be on them in my top five. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: certainly over Ziner, who I.

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Speaker 2: Would not have entered. Might not. I see why you do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if he were, if he were completely healthy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he might be like two.

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Speaker 2: On this day exactly, but he's not. So I see

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Speaker 2: why he has him on there and maybe even explains that.

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Speaker 2: But I mean it's for right now and what their

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Speaker 2: value you are as a player.

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Speaker 1: He's down the Yeah, nobody's taking Zach center. I don't

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Speaker 1: think anybody will take Zack center in the second round.

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Speaker 2: I'd be shocked. He's even a day two pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on JV and Cohen that of Miami.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think he's a pure guard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, edge defenders, Dallas Turner, he's my one layout

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Speaker 1: too late to got it? Yeah, Jared versy mm hmm,

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Speaker 1: Chop Robinson brayln Trice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Price isn't very athletic, but yeah, after the stop four.

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Speaker 2: It gets a look loud. Yeah, it gets a little rooky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some people are starting to move to the western

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Speaker 1: Michigan guy up there.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we can understand that, keeping like the depth

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Speaker 2: there from what I've but what I've kind of deducted to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep an eye on Chris Braswell.

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Speaker 2: Hm hmm. I'd probably a Braswell fifth on.

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Speaker 1: That I think I did on our rankings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just missed. I'm trying to think what I

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Speaker 2: did with him.

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Speaker 1: His straight line speed, I mean, he just gets to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and I'll take that.

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Speaker 2: I think I had Robinson with my edges just because

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Speaker 2: that's what he was listed on NFL dot Com, But

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Speaker 2: I listened him with my tackles. Yeah, I think he

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Speaker 2: probably is more of a tackle deep.

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Speaker 1: Down defensive tackles. He has Johnny Newton, Biral Murphy, Chris

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Speaker 1: Jenkins three. That's moving him up a spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if one of those top two end up

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Speaker 2: in Cincinnati now that they signed a right tackle for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah, right, having tackles fall that signing helps

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, and really Newton would be kind of like

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Speaker 2: maybe they're geno Atkins. Yeah, he's kind of geno Atkins, like, uh,

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Speaker 2: he has Darius Robinson four.

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Speaker 1: That's up a spot. Devandre Sweat moves down two spots

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Speaker 1: to five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If I were to redo my Detackle rankings, I

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Speaker 2: think I'd have Jenkins over Sweat too. I didn't I

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Speaker 2: had Jenkins as my six.

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Speaker 1: There's just no production there.

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Speaker 2: I know. It's such a Michigan thing. Yeah, I remember

589
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Speaker 2: having this talking with Gary and the nose tackle that

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Speaker 2: Dallas took in the first round. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it's just hold your gap through your job, don't you know.

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Speaker 1: Well how Gary worked out the nose tackle from Smith.

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Speaker 1: Smith has not yet a really bad rookie year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you just don't know. Keep an eye on Leonard

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Speaker 1: Taylor from Miami.

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Speaker 2: There was so much buzz about him before the year,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, I'm not sure what his issues are.

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Speaker 1: At linebacker. Edrian Cooper he was my one. Peyton Wilson

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Speaker 1: moves up a spot.

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Speaker 2: His combine was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Trotter at three, that's down a spot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, he I would have him behind the Michigan

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Speaker 2: kid too.

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Speaker 1: Colson Cedric Gray four. Colson at five.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha it's pretty low on Coulson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, surprising.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was productive at Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the one.

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Speaker 2: Guy that was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, keep an eye on Marist leof Wu out of

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Okay, at cornerback, still has Terry and Arnold

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Speaker 1: number one.

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Speaker 2: I think that's not set in stone, at least for me.

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Speaker 2: I mean I like him, but he was he was

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Speaker 2: thinking he was my one, but I could be talked

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Speaker 2: out of it.

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Speaker 1: At two, moving up two spots is Quinya Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At three moving down a spot is Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: Okay, for a movement. You told me he weighed in

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Speaker 2: a little heavier his progra's.

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Speaker 1: He's like one seventy three at the combine.

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Speaker 2: Of course he's trying to get his leading the run

624
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Speaker 2: as possible, but one eighties I can assess that a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At four up a spot is kool Aid McKinstry.

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Speaker 2: He ran well today.

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Speaker 1: He ran a four to four to seven. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was a big ques with the foot issue.

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Speaker 2: With the foot issues, so good for him. I think

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Speaker 2: that puts him in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's probably more like a four to four

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Speaker 1: one something like that with when he doesn't that the foot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so if people don't know. There were questions about

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Speaker 2: his speed and then got hurt at the combine, couldn't

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Speaker 2: do anything.

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Speaker 1: They found They found a Jones fracture at the combine.

639
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Speaker 2: So I didn't know if he'd work out today or not.

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Speaker 2: He did and exceeded expectations basically, so good for him.

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Speaker 2: Uh Number five, he'll be there in round two for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: Five. And he was unrated before this was is enis

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Speaker 1: Rakestraw Junior.

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Speaker 2: I was saying, now, I definitely would have kool aid

648
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Speaker 2: over Rakestraw. Yeah, I guess he didn't have. He has

649
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Speaker 2: the gene on the list dropped the gene dropped off. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he was he was in there. Yeah, he hasn't done

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Speaker 2: anyth lately. But yeah, there's nothing that the stock has

652
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Speaker 2: to be hurdle little bit.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on Kyrie Jackson. Okay, big six three

654
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Speaker 1: two pound cornerbacks. So we sort of talked about this.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are the are.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers out of the outside corner market. I don't

657
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Speaker 2: think they're out, that's the wrong word, but less likely,

658
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: less less of ane, Yeah, yeah, I mean less likely

659
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: to use a Day two pick on a guy.

660
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Like him, because you know you now have Jackson there,

661
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: but you've also got two second year players.

662
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: Trace and Rush. They're not slots, no, yeah right, I

663
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: mean they're all I think Jackson is a clear starter. Yeah,

664
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: but if one of those blows your doors off, you

665
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: don't really have someone to bump inside. And if you

666
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: draft a third round or whatever that's only does outside

667
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 2: stuff too, that's six or whatever.

668
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: Too many condors. Yeah right, yeah, exactly, Nickel cornerbacks. This

669
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: is this is the interesting one to hear. Yeah, I

670
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: mean sant Is Drill to me is the top of

671
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the list. He has Cooper Dejene number one, which makes yeah, okay,

672
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: just the diferent way to look at it.

673
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean they're two different body types, two different style.

674
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: But yes, he would be ahead of Saintstreew.

675
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Saintstroul Is second, Okay, Max Melton third.

676
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Nice, I'm still big on him. Yeah, I think he'd

677
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: be a really good fit.

678
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kamari Lassiter fourth.

679
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: I didn't really think of him as a slot.

680
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 1: And then Daikwan Hardy is fifth. Where's he from Penn State?

681
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, yeah, and then there's the Jones.

682
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: Kid, Jerry and Jones from Florida Stare State.

683
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: I think the other Jones kid from Boston College is

684
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: a slot yeah, Jerry and Jones is keep an eye Okay, okay, okay.

685
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's some there's some dudes there.

686
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: There are some dudes there that you don't have to

687
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: spend a first round pick on. Right. The Jeane would

688
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: do a lot of different stuff for you.

689
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might have to spend a first round pick

690
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: on him. But the other.

691
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: Guys, yeah, I mean, when you're talking about team building,

692
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: one of those two third round picks we may have

693
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: just listed.

694
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're different sizes as well. Yeah, what are

695
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: you looking for there?

696
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: I need to do more homework on the slot only types. Yeah,

697
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: and that doesn't mean they can't ever line up outside.

698
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Jones has done it. Yeah, Lassiter's obviously done.

699
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: You know.

700
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: Safeties, He's got Tyler Nuban one okay, Javon Bullard two,

701
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: h Kaylen Bullock three. Cameron Kinchins moves to slides two

702
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: spots down the four. The other two guys moved up,

703
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: and then Tyke Smith. Okay, so a name I'm stealing

704
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: this often Nate Tye. Nate Tys does really work.

705
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 2: His dad is Mike Tys, the former head coach, and

706
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: he put out his top fifty list and he had Mustafa.

707
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, really high, like his number one or two safety.

708
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: That's when watch some YouTube stuff of him. I know

709
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers aren't the safety market anymore, but some of

710
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 2: those bigger name guys to me never really tickled my fancy.

711
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: And I like Mustafa better than what I saw from him.

712
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: A couple of names on that list, like Kitchens and

713
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: the USC.

714
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Kid and you know his keep an eye on is

715
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: bo Brady.

716
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean fourth round pick, special team or yeah,

717
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: maybe he's a Geno Stone like career.

718
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: We'll play some slot for you.

719
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, he can do a lot too, that's interesting. I'm

720
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: sure some of those safeties can do slot as well.

721
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think both Georgia guys, both George

722
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: slot in. Yeah, Newpan did some of that even mm hmm.

723
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: He's kind of a cover guy that.

724
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So folks, they a chance that whenever Day two

725
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: or early Day three rolls around, they'll and they'll draft

726
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: someone and they'll call him a safety might really really

727
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: be a slot. Yeah, even though especially the Georgia guys,

728
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: or you know, a bigger slot type. Yeah, maybe you'd

729
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: get two of those. Maybe you'd get the smaller corner

730
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: type slot and a safety type slot if you have

731
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: an extra pick.

732
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then just let him fight it out in

733
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: training camps, which is your better option, or maybe they

734
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: split the time in there depending on down and distance.

735
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: I go back to the Ravens a lot. I mean,

736
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 2: everyone's familiar with Arthur Roulette. He was their slot, except

737
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: for when Cayle Hamilton was their slot. Who's a better player,

738
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: more physical player, but they do different sometimes they want Hamilton. Yeah,

739
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Hamilton never left the field, but Malette often did.

740
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and the Steelers kind of used him

741
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: that way too. You know there were times, you know

742
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: when when they had Cam Sutton and Mike Hilton if

743
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: it was a pure passing.

744
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: Day, right right, good example.

745
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: A lot of times you have something on the field.

746
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: If it's third and ten, Yeah, if.

747
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: It's second three or second four and they come out

748
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: in three wide receivers, now you've now you're putting somebody

749
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: out there can stop to run a little bit better.

750
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: I think the bigger ones are probably harder to find

751
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: and they're probably a little more in demand, but they're

752
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: not as quick, right, you know, there's as a rule thumb,

753
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: of course.

754
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: Ideally he'd like to have one guy who's capable of

755
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: doing it.

756
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: I mean the Gene would be great, of course, right,

757
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: But I mean then you're sacrificing the first round lineman

758
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: or receiver or something.

759
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: To go back to our Dak Hill conversation of a

760
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: couple of years.

761
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 2: Ago, like Degene is like the one that kills all stone,

762
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: kills all birds with one stone. Yeah, you know what

763
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: I mean. He could be your outside corner, he could

764
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: be your slot.

765
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: He can play deep safety. You do a little bit

766
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: of everything for you.

767
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Stuff for you too. It might be return intriguing, It

768
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: might be your return guy. Yeah, it might be a

769
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: great special team or I mean he might be starting corner.

770
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: We have two out there. Yeah, as possible.

771
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's good.

772
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, but that is Bucky Brook's second

773
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: look a little bit differently.

774
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives you a different idea some of those

775
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: names at some of those positions. You know, you look

776
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: at these guys, you say, well, like I probably saw there.

777
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I'll always look at like pro Football Focus one of

778
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: the things I actually used pro football focused for. I'll

779
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: go in and look at the snap counts where they.

780
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, yeah, like I did that the second they

781
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: signed uh what's it called safety, you know, and he

782
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: was a free a bunch for Miami Elliott. Yeah, and

783
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: like oh, I thought he was more of a box

784
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: safety and he plays that way, but they used him

785
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: allotted free. I mean, the the first things I looked

786
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 2: up and they signed him, you know, but it's really

787
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: useful for that.

788
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: Let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

789
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. When we come back on the drive,

790
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: we'll hear from new Steelers cornerback Dante Jackson. I had

791
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: a chance to sit down with him last week or

792
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: late last week, and we haven't gotten a chance to

793
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: play that back yet. We'll do that right after this

794
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: welcome back. I'm Dale Ali. He is v Matt Williamson,

795
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: and I mentioned that I had an opportunity to sit

796
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: down with a new Steelers cornerback Dante Jackson last week.

797
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,400
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802
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Speaker 1: get yourself a Dante Jackson jersey if you were so inclined.

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Speaker 1: dot Steelers dot com. Interesting guy, confident guy. I'm excited

806
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: to hear from m Yeah, I really wants to be here.

807
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: So let's let's hear what Dante Jackson had to say.

808
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is a change for you. You know,

809
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 1: you've been your entire career with the Carolina Panthers. First

810
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: time traded in, first time changing teams. How does that feel?

811
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: How did that process go for you?

812
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: I mean it's a little bit surreal now. You know,

813
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: this is one thing just getting traded, you know, to

814
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: a team, but it's another thing getting traded to a

815
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: team like the Pittsburgh Steelers, a franchise I've been you know,

816
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: admiring for for a very long time since childhood, you know,

817
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: very very popular team within my my area where I

818
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 4: grew up. At a lot a whole lot of Steelers

819
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: fans so it's just so.

820
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: Real right now.

821
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 4: You know, I got traded and I was on a

822
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 4: red eye to Pittsburgh and now I'm sitting in here

823
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: as the Pittsburgh Stiller. So I'm still just trying to

824
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: really catch up with everything. But definitely surreal man, definitely,

825
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: definitely super super blessed, Definitely.

826
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: Just ready to get to work.

827
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: Like I said, I've I've always admired the Stellers, I

828
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 4: always admired with with this with this logo stood for

829
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: and and and all the greatness that comes with it.

830
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,359
Speaker 4: And I'm I'm definitely ready to tap into a lot

831
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 4: of that greatness and continue to fulfill my NFL dreams. Uh,

832
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: you know, a prestige organization like this one, so.

833
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: For I'll be the Carolina Panthers are in a separate,

834
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: different conference, but for years, for a number of years,

835
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers and Panthers would play each other at the

836
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: end of the preseason every year, and so you got

837
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to see those guys year in and year

838
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: out there early in your career. Did it kind of

839
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: show you a little bit about the franchise?

840
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it showed me hins Field for the

841
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: first time. I remember being a rookie and coming to

842
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 4: Hines Field for the first time and being just amazed

843
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: at just all of the heritage and the culture that's

844
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: just you know, oozing throughout that that stadium. So I

845
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 4: remember being just starstruck at that. I remember seeing the

846
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: Big Ben for the first time as a rookie, you know,

847
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: being starstruck at that and.

848
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Speaker 3: Ab and all those guys.

849
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Speaker 4: So, like I said, just the just the amount of

850
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 4: greatness that attached to this, to this franchise. Man, it

851
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 4: just gets you excited just to go out there and

852
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 4: play football, and to go out there and just you know,

853
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: just just give everything. You know, it was I've dealt

854
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: with a lot of ups and downs, you know, at

855
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 4: my last team for six seasons, a lot of coaching changes,

856
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 4: a lot of you know, personnel changes. But I think

857
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 4: just being somewhere like this where a lot of the

858
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 4: roots are already in the ground, a lot of the

859
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 4: coaching is the same, a lot of management is the same,

860
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 4: a lot of the training and even all the way

861
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: to the beat writers are the same, you know. So

862
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: it's just like I said, just that culture, it just

863
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 4: gets you ready to come in and just to be

864
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 4: a part of something like this is just amazing.

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00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned the coaching.

866
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: Obviously, Mike Tomlin is at the top of that food chain.

867
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: What's your relationship like with him. Did you guys talk

868
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: a lot in the pre draft process and all.

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Speaker 3: That, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were.

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00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: Coach Tomlin was it was only a lot, a lot

871
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 4: coming out of college and a lot when I was

872
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 4: getting ready to sign my second contract. I signed a

873
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: second contract with the Panthers, and the Steelers were right

874
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: there this past trade line deadline, they were right there

875
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: and now coming back here right now, and you know,

876
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: at this free agency mark, they're right there again.

877
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: So it's just I just felt like it's meant to be.

878
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: You know, uh, huge, huge.

879
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: I can't even express the amount of respect and gratitude

880
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 4: I have for this organization for for for not only

881
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 4: taking the chance at me, but but making me a

882
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 4: guy that they that they that they focused on getting,

883
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 4: and that they that they really showed that they want

884
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 4: for years and years now, you know what I'm saying.

885
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: So finally getting to be here, I feel like it

886
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 4: happened at the time it was supposed to happen.

887
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 3: I'm feeling my best.

888
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 4: You know, I've been playing my best ball, And like

889
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: I said, I'm just happy to get out there with

890
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: with with with this great defense and and shock the league,

891
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 4: scared of the league.

892
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: Man, I just can't wait.

893
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: What can you?

894
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: Can you tell Stealer fans what kind of player they're

895
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: getting here in Dante Jackson, do.

896
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 3: It all corner, through it all corner.

897
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 4: I wouldn't expect a lot of Steelers fans to have

898
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: been to watch a lot of Panthers games over the years.

899
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 4: But if you go back and watch, you'll see a dog.

900
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 4: You'll see a corner who's gonna get up there in

901
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: front of anybody and compete. You're gonna see a guy

902
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: who's gonna come up and who's gonna make tackles at

903
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 4: a high level. And you're gonna see a guy who

904
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 4: just wants to win, who wants to be great, who

905
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 4: wants to be the who goes out his way to

906
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: be the best teammate he could be. And uh, just

907
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: getting to somebody who's who's excited to to to prove theyself,

908
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like I said, I don't

909
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: expect a lot of a lot of still As fans

910
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: to be familiar with my game. Unless you've you know,

911
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 4: stumbled upon a Panthers game here in the past. But

912
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 4: you're gonna see, y'all gonna see that that that that

913
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: that is is is it's the levels to this And

914
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 4: I think that I'm amongst some of the best in

915
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 4: the league, just right in front the right eyes.

916
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 3: And I feel like I'm in front the right eyes.

917
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm in front the right fan base

918
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 4: to to to really take me to the next level.

919
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: You you mentioned you're all around game. You you said

920
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: a career high last year with five tackles for a loss. Uh,

921
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: shows your your tackling ability there.

922
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 2: You're you're you're not.

923
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: The biggest guy, but you're willing to stick your nose in.

924
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: There, no doubt, no doubt. Definitely willing to come up

925
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: and make tackles on anybody. I think that that was

926
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 4: a bigger part of my my game that uh, that

927
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 4: that shocked a lot of people throughout my career is

928
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 4: the fact that I come up and I'll tackle, I

929
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: come up and out here and I come up, I'll

930
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 4: make plays.

931
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 3: You know, at the highest level.

932
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: I didn't get really too many opportunities in the in

933
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 4: the passing game last year, like I would want to,

934
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: but I have to come up and make, you know,

935
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: make a difference elsewhere.

936
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 3: So the run game is where I saw a lot

937
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: of my opportunities.

938
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: I think you read a four three seven when you're

939
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: coming out.

940
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: Is that four three one?

941
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Four three one? Okay, I'm sorry, I was four three.

942
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: I want to, I want to.

943
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to cheat you out of that time.

944
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: But you still that guy, You still that fast.

945
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 4: I think I'm I'm faster. I think I'm faster. I

946
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 4: think I'm more explosive. I think I'm stronger. Like I said,

947
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 4: it's still this franchise, and it's still a fan base

948
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 4: of getting is getting the best version of Dante Jackson

949
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 4: that's ever scrapped up. You know, Like I said, I've

950
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 4: been through a lot. I've been through a lot of uncertainty,

951
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: but not just coming into somewhere. The only thing I

952
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 4: have to worry about is football and and doing my

953
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 4: job at the highest level. I think that this is

954
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 4: this is the right place for me. And like I said,

955
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: it's been and it works for a long time, but

956
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 4: I think it happened at the right time. I think

957
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: that this is the best version of this is this

958
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: is the player I would love to come in to

959
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: the Steelers and put on that player. This version of

960
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: me is the version that I would want to come

961
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 4: scrap up for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And this is going

962
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 4: to be the year that I prove everybody who's supports

963
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 4: you right, and I prove everybody who criticized me wrong.

964
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: So you join a Steelers secondary that has Mega Fitzpatrick,

965
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: that has a Joey Porter junior who had a great

966
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: rookie year last year, you excited about seeing some of

967
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: those guys and working with some of those guys.

968
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I've been a huge fan of Mica

969
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: since we came in the league. We came in the

970
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: league the same year, and we played in college against

971
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: each other three years in a row from Alabama and LSU.

972
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: So I've always always been a fan of Mica.

973
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: Man.

974
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: He's an exceptional player football IQ through the roof. So

975
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 4: just just getting out there to be with a guy

976
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 4: who just makes football easier for his teammates and for

977
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: his running mates out there is all always a blessing.

978
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: So just getting to go out there with one of

979
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: the least best safeties it's gonna be.

980
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing. And I've I've I've.

981
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 4: Watched so much film on on Joeys is crazy. You know,

982
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 4: I probably can tell you every one of his players

983
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 4: from his rookie year. He's he's exceptional.

984
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: Man.

985
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: I just can't wait to go out there and just

986
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: just watch him up close and personal and take the

987
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: field with him, and you know, and and just do

988
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: everything that that that this franchise deserves from his corners,

989
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: you know, just and most importantly for me, just going

990
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: in and just seeing the best way I can I

991
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: can learn from these guys and the best way that

992
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 4: I can be the best teammate I will I need

993
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: to be, you know, And this is the great franchise

994
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: has a lot of great players, a lot of smart players,

995
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 4: and most importantly a lot of great professionals. So I

996
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: think that I'll be able to pick up a lot,

997
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: even though it's my second year, made my seventh year,

998
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: excuse me, I know I'll be able to pick up

999
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 4: a lot just from just being in this type of building.

1000
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: Well, Dante Jackson, we welcome you to Pittsburgh and we

1001
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you on the football field.

1002
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: No doubt, no doubt, you'd be saying a lot of me.

1003
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate you that was a new Steelers cornerback Dante Jackson.

1004
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: Then he's a good talker.

1005
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd say energetic, excited to be here, kind of

1006
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: we were talking as I was going, I mean, he's

1007
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 2: gone through so many he's going through multiple owners and

1008
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: so many coaches.

1009
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: And five different coaches in six years.

1010
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and I really get the

1011
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: impression post trade, you know, studying more and more that

1012
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: Stuers had their eye on this guy for a long time. Yeah,

1013
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: they've been trying to pry him away for quite a while.

1014
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: It's been a guy that they've coveted for quite some time.

1015
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: If you he mentioned that he came out in that

1016
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen.

1017
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: Draft, Yeah, Mika Draft, they were forty time.

1018
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they were very much in on defensive backs

1019
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: at that time, cornerbacks in particular safeties, and so they

1020
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: did a lot of homework and obviously, you know when

1021
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: he was at LSU, there were a bunch of dudes.

1022
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: Of course, of course at that point, sneaking by anybody.

1023
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1024
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: Right, So he goes in the second round and he's

1025
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: had a solid NFL career and now he'll get a

1026
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: chance to join a different franchise here with the Steelers.

1027
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of the guys I'm most excited

1028
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: about to see in person, even in mini camp, because

1029
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: I want to see the speed, you know. I mean,

1030
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: he mentioned he thinks he's I think he's stronger than ever.

1031
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's faster than ever or not.

1032
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: He was really really fast and lean when he came out.

1033
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a serious sprinter background, and he can fly.

1034
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: He did have an achilles in between then and that,

1035
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: you know, So that's why I wanted to see him

1036
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: open it up and I could see coach Tom Win

1037
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 2: the first rep of you know, Latrobe, here's pickings on

1038
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: a go route or whatever. Let's just see speed out

1039
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: there and Wilson throwing deep balls to him, you know,

1040
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: at him.

1041
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1042
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: The interesting thing, you know, he ran a four to

1043
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: three to two at the combine and then ran the

1044
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: four to three one at LSU's, so he's he's legit. Yeah, Yeah,

1045
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: that's his speed. That was you know, that was his

1046
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: speed coming out.

1047
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 2: So even if he's there's verified track time, yeah, you know, right, even.

1048
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: If he's a four to four guy at this point.

1049
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: He's smarter, and he's bigger, and he's stronger now too, right,

1050
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: So I mean as a prospect, there were some questions

1051
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: about his willingness to throw his smaller, thinner body around,

1052
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: but not anymore. I mean he is tough. He's tough,

1053
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: and he has put on some armor, you know, some

1054
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: some thickness to him too, so that shouldn't be a problem.

1055
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's uh, I think people are undervaluing that addition.

1056
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: I did initially, Yeah, I very much did. And now

1057
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: you also got him at a little bit cheaper rate.

1058
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: He's a little different than the condors you have at

1059
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: that position too, you know, which, if Joey's going to

1060
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 2: be following number ones around, maybe you don't want two

1061
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: guys out there that are humongous against you know. The

1062
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: shorter shift of your guys when you're in base person

1063
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: just gives you.

1064
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: More options, more options. Yeah, and that's you know the

1065
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: same thing at quarterback, more options at quarterback. Take two

1066
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: bites out of the apple. It gives him another veteran

1067
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 1: guy there that you know, they their secondary was overall

1068
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: lacking in.

1069
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: Speed less actually, as to say, I thought the back seven,

1070
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: but especially the secondary not name Minca and Porter were

1071
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: too slow. Yeah, and I think that's a priority. Of course.

1072
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

1073
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lelly. You're listening to the Drive here on

1074
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. That's going to do it for our

1075
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 1: number one. We will be back with our number two

1076
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: of the drive right after this.