WEBVTT - Wesley Jonathan Meets World 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:22.840 So recently we were in Austin, Texas, and we were 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:29.200 gifted one of the most thoughtful gifts anybody has ever 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.519 given us. And we have been the recipients of a 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:37.879 lot of thoughtful gifts because we have incredibly thoughtful, detail 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:42.480 oriented fans who just know us so well and care 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.559 so much about Boy Meets World and have given us 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.800 so many thoughtful gifts, but we were truly blown away 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:50.760 by this particular gift. It was given to us by 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:54.000 a kind gentleman named Ray Bats. And I'm going to 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.880 let the two of you describe what this gift was 0:00:57.760 --> 0:00:58.440 so good, I. 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.480 Mean, it was so and could you want to start right? 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.560 You taught me how to play, so why don't you start? 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:02.880 So? 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:06.520 As we've mentioned on the show before, I am a 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:10.560 huge Magic the Gathering fan, and since the age of 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.360 twelve thirteen when my brother bought a pack of Unlimited, 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:19.240 which is the one of the early editions pack of Unlimited, 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:20.920 and we learned how to play. So by the time 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.480 by first season A Boy, I was already playing Yeah, 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.400 And then I got Will into it and we would 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.240 play backstage, and then I kind of fell out of it, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.640 but then I got back into it. In my thirties 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:37.600 and have been playing more recently and having you know 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.240 so well. We played Let's see, we played after Shiloh's 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.319 heart surgery, remember when he was recovering. You came over 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.480 and we played Magic all day. So that was probably 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:48.320 the last time. It was like five years ago. Anyway, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.160 we've been talking about playing magic on this show, and Ray, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:57.480 who is a game designer in his own right, decided 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:02.640 to make us custom Magic the Gathering Decks, where each 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.760 card is an original card based on either an in 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.400 joke from boy Me's world or a reference to something 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:13.320 that we've talked about on this podcast. And it is 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:19.280 a fully playable deck of magic. Three fully playable we 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.200 each got one. We each got one and their commander decks. 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.240 So the commanders of the decks are based on us. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:29.520 So mine is Writer, Eternal night Holder, and uh based 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.400 on the mechanics of the game. You add shirt tokens 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:38.440 to my commander, so I am a legendary plains Walker 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:42.080 human director who gets shirt tokens so I can have 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:47.960 too much shirts as my magic character. There's an artifact 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.360 card that is the Jacket, which is a reference to 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:56.040 the leather jacket that I've lost. There's a creature called 0:02:56.080 --> 0:03:00.080 the Mailbox Bomber based on the like. There are so 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:04.280 many references. It's an endless and and he had artwork 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.919 created for every card, for every card, which he did 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.680 through Ai. There's a Shady Melon card, Shady Eskimo of 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.919 halted Progress, which is a creature who gets in your way, 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.120 I mean, and he figured out there's an Angela's purse. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.720 In fact, he figured out all these things like. 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.280 I have I have Duckies, the Horses of the Ocean, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.760 which is a flying creature. There is uh, there's one 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:32.920 that's just called phone acting, which is an instant I mean, 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:37.880 there's all these. The Phenie call the Collar of Feenie 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.160 is another instant card you can use. My commander deck 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:46.600 is it's will the Collar of Merchan. You get these 0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:50.200 merch tokens as you're going there, So every card is 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.040 so clever. And I am not kidding when I say 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:54.800 we got them. He handed them to us. We could 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.040 have sat there right then and gone through every card, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:03:58.720 but obviously we're doing our meet and greets, so we 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.400 didn't have time, so we had to put them aside. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:05.240 I came home and I spent a joyous hour going 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:08.680 card by card and looking at every single one of 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.880 these things. They are incredible. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.040 And he says you can play it with other magic 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.200 decks too, So it's not even like my foot maybe 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.120 it was only playable within the three of us, but 0:04:17.160 --> 0:04:20.200 it's actually integrates with the regular rules of magic. Oh 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.479 so yeah, man, so impressive, so thoughtful and just so 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:28.800 fun and funny and touching, like really genuinely touching, like 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:31.560 the amount of thought and energy. And like, I shared 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:33.919 this with my my, my fellow magic geeks, so I 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.800 play with I like immediately like texted those look at that, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.919 and they're like that is insane, Like it's mind blowing. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:41.760 It is. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.480 It's it's so cool. Wait, I think we have one. 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:45.160 Do we have one up? 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:45.560 Yeah? 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:46.240 You have a photo? 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.479 Wow at these, I mean, just look at these. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.080 So we will post these photos on Instagram so you 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:53.680 guys can appreciate them as well. 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:55.720 The mail box bomber. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.080 Yeah, and I'd like to give a special shout out 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.800 to I believe his wife who was with him, who 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.839 also was putting in She said I was the official sleever, 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.440 so she was the person who was putting them in 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.640 individual sleeves, and she said, I was a part of 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.960 this as well, and she most certainly was so thank 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:14.480 you so much. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:14.720 Ray. 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.119 So cool. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.960 And he also he said to us, he kind of 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:20.240 he like handed us the cards and then he kind 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:21.360 of ducked his head a little bit and he said, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.560 I hope you don't mind, but I inserted myself too. 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.960 And so there's a Ray card. There's actually one of 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.880 the cards is for Ray and it was just it 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.560 was the coolest thing ever. Yeah, yes, very cool. 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:31.120 Great. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.599 So you guys continue to amaze us and we just 0:05:35.240 --> 0:05:38.400 absolutely love seeing you at our live shows, which, by 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.520 the way, we are still rescheduling those live shows that 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:43.920 we had to cancel for December. It has been a 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.440 little bit difficult to find a time when those venues 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.000 have had availability, so I just want you to know 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.279 they are being rescheduled. We look forward to seeing you 0:05:53.360 --> 0:05:57.239 all and hopefully being able to announce those dates very soon. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:01.960 Hello, Connecticut, Pod Meets World Live is coming to you 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:03.080 my hometown. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:03.760 Now. 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.720 My two co hosts have had their fun with their 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:08.120 little jokes and insults, but now it's time for every 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:09.920 single one of you to put down your butter churns 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.680 and drive your carriages. I kid, my fellow nutmakers down 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:15.720 to the Bushnell Theater in Hartford on March seventeenth, right 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.320 near where I was born. It is going to be 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.120 a very special night for a very awesome state. 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Oh, I can't wait 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:54.400 to see you there. 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:55.800 Welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.919 I'm Danielle Fischel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Will 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:00.120 the caller. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:15.440 Of I think we can all agree that one of 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.040 the more fever dream episodes of Boy Meets World was 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.480 the New Year's themed set piece focused Train of Fools, 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:23.880 and since we hadn't yet traveled through time to the 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.000 fifties when we first rewatched Eric force a kiss on 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.280 Charisma Carpenter, we didn't think it could get more bananas. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:34.880 Then mister b and definitely not Potzi came along and 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.600 took that title. But Train of Fools had its day 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.200 in the sun, and one of the very high points 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.760 of this chaotic episode was the work of actor Wesley Jonathan, 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.560 who played TJ, a fellow teen stuck with us on 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.520 New Year's Eve whose main focus was getting the party started. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.400 And during our season two wrap up with Bruh Meets World, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.640 when we asked who they wanted to see stop by 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:58.640 for season three, they were quick to mention Wesley, a 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:01.680 rare black actor on set who was also known for 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:04.960 starring in the NBC sitcom City Guys Then What I 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.600 Like About You opposite Genie Garth and Amanda Bynes for 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:12.040 eighty six episodes. He'd been seen on Sister Sister, Moesha, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.160 Smart Guy, A Different World, Boston Public, and was one 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.960 of the stars of the glorious two thousand and five 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:22.360 skating movie Roll Bounce. He has done it all, including 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.680 work with one of us a little more recently, and 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.320 now we are excited to start the party on Pod 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.720 meets World with this week's exciting guest. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.800 Let's welcome Wesley Jonathan Fast. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:37.079 Hello. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:40.559 Hi, you doing. 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:43.120 I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing all right? 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.800 Good? And another person coming on who looks exactly the 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:50.240 same eaged Oh well, thank you. 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:51.320 You guys look good too. 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.440 Thank you. We made you watch your episode last night, 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:56.360 and we will. 0:08:56.200 --> 0:09:00.839 Get into our memories of working together later. But what 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.480 did you think about the episode now? Watching it nearly 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:04.679 thirty years later? 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.080 I watched Let's see. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:12.480 I have a nine year old little girl and she's 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:14.360 just now I mean, she's always known me to be 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.520 an actor, but like it's just now starting to resonate 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:16.839 with her. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.000 So she's watching all the old shouls on stream streaming. 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:22.640 She looked at it and the first thing she thought 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:24.800 was the same thing I thought, is like, what's with 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:31.880 the hair? So yeah, man, I look back and was like, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.120 oh my god was I thinking? But when I think 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.120 about it, I was like, it was that was people 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:37.719 were doing that, That's what they were doing. But it's 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:39.040 just like my hair was just crazy. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:41.200 It was like, oh my god, I was doing that 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:42.000 that's how bad it is. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:49.360 It's also a boy meets World, which is very hair centric. Yes, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:51.440 oh man, all about the hair. 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:51.640 I know. 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.760 And we're not even making any measure mention of the 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.920 fact that mister Feene is on an ad in the subway. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:01.960 Like there's there's just some weird many moments they're just 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:05.000 like not really, they don't really make a whole lot 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:05.400 of sense. 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.600 I mean, Eric is trying to kiss a supermodel who 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.600 wants to date high. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.800 Schooler, which is which that's like the fourth weirdest thing. 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.560 So that's that's how you know the episode's bizarre when 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:15.800 that's like the fourth weirdest thing. 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:20.079 You're on the subway by yourself, Yeah, like just ready 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:21.000 to party, Like what. 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.920 Are what's happening? 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.520 Okay, so let's take it back. We like to start 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.880 with some origin story stuff. You were just nine years 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.640 old when you started acting, right. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:38.360 Yes, I was about nine yep. 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.760 Okay, we've noticed that, like nine or ten seems to 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.880 be a very common age to like jump into the 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:45.880 entertainment industry. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.719 Did your parents get you into it? 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.120 Yes, well my mom because I was raised you know, 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:54.520 a single family home. 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:57.400 My mom and a cousin of mine. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:02.080 She was an actress, and they I would always I 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.640 was always dancing. I wanted to be a singer and 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.840 a dancer. Originally, I've been dancing since I was like 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.760 four or five years old. So I wanted to be 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.320 I wanted to be bigger than Michael Jackson in my 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.720 little mind, and so I was always dancing at like 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.360 you know, reunions and you know, family gatherings and weddings 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:20.000 and anywhere I would see a reflection of myself. Grocery store, 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:22.120 I would I would be moon walking or dancing and 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.720 doing something so amazing. It came like they had a 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.000 conversation and they were you know, like and they sat 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.120 me down, and I'll never forget it because this is 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.720 like right when Nintendo had just like roughly I guess 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:36.520 came out. It was like the Gold Zelda, and it 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.400 was just like, you know, we didn't have any money, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.800 you know what I mean. So they sat me down, like, hey, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.840 would you want to do like commercials and TV and 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:48.200 stuff like that. You know, you can buy Nintendo games, 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.120 and they're trying to lure me into this thing. I 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.000 was like, you know, and I didn't care. I was like, 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.400 I don't you know of course I want those things, 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.360 but like I just liked to perform. So like the 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.079 first thing, I said, could I sing and dance? And 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:02.800 they're like, well, yeah, it's all you know, it's all 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.000 the same, you know, same thing. I'm like, okay, sure, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.400 So what do I have to do? And then they 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.640 got some head shots, taking some Ten's old classic black 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:15.120 and white by ten shots and it's I don't know 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.320 what they did. They ended up getting an interview with 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.520 an agency, HERB Tannon, which is a really popular agency. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.120 I remember that agent, yeah right. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.920 And I got an interview with Herb Tennant and I 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:31.160 went in there and uh, you know, it was a 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:35.760 white lady, Joyce Stevenson, who was my agent for many 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.000 many years, even up until recently. She was like managing 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:41.679 my commercial area. But she passed away about a couple 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:44.080 of years ago. But she took me in a room 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:46.640 with another white guy, whatever the case may be, and 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.559 they asked me questions what did I like to do? 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:50.280 And I sit dance and they were like, oh, you 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:52.440 don't have to dance, you dance for us, and I 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:54.480 said sure, and they were like you want some music 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:58.360 and I was like, oh no, I got the music 0:12:58.400 --> 0:12:58.679 in here. 0:12:58.679 --> 0:12:59.839 They're like yeah, sure. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.800 It was like yeah, They're like, well why, I was like, well, 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:12.240 because yeah, your music is different from mine. 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:14.200 Keep playing on Peter and. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:24.240 Mary Metallica and you know, different different. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.280 Yeah yeah, I like guns and Roses at the time. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.240 But I was like I can't dance that, So so 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.360 I ended up just you know, doing a little something, 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:34.440 and uh, they ended up signing me. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.959 I mean right on, you know, right on the spot 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:37.560 pretty much. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.240 And and and uh after that, we're on a few auditions. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.320 And the one thing about me is I had no 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.440 acting experience. The only thing I did have was that 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:47.719 I wasn't. I was one of those kids that could 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.360 take direction. I wasn't most of us who are kid 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.960 acting with you guys know, we don't. 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:53.240 We're not normal. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:55.600 That's fair enough. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:57.160 I think that's about. 0:13:59.480 --> 0:13:59.600 Right. 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.920 So it's like I was one of those kids, like 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:02.480 a robot. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.280 You tell me to go there, say that, stand over 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.040 here and say that and wait for this que And 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.679 that was it. And my first job was twenty one 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.080 Jump Street, the TV show with Johnny Depp. 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.040 Like you're on twenty one Jump Street? 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.920 Which episode job I was? 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.240 I was on an episode of Creative U dude jabbar actually, 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:24.000 and it was a pretty nice role. I opened up 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.280 the show with another kid and then we closed the show. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.680 It's about basketball and drugs and crack and yeah, man, 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.840 it was a great show. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.120 That was a great show. Twenty one Jump Street. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.280 Yeah, it was a great show. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.760 And I didn't really know the severity, Like we flew 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.600 to Vancouver shot for two weeks and when I flew 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.360 back and they finally, you know, let us know when 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:46.320 it was gonna air. And I told all the kids 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.680 at school, all my friends and teachers that, yo, remember 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.760 I was absent and I wanted to go shoot the show, 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:53.360 and you know, and I had never as a kid 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:55.560 watched the show. I just knew the theme song, you know 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.440 what I mean, because again I was musically like, you know, inclined. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:02.720 So the night of the show airing, I watched it 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.320 and I cringed. I was just like, as a kid, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.240 oh my god, I sound like that. I looked like 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:14.200 that kidding me? Was it was awful. So again, being 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.680 kid act was a little you know, weird. I'm not 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:18.680 you know, the typical kid be like yeah, you know, 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.160 but it wasn't that case. I was very like, I 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.880 don't like that, if I do it again, I got 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:26.560 to do it better. And when I went to school, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.080 the kids, you know, everybody went crazy. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.720 Man, everybody was bugging out that whole day. 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.920 That was what made me go, ah, now I must 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.800 feel that again. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.520 I got yeah, right. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:42.560 That's that drug. That's drug the first time. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:42.840 Yeah. 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.960 So afterwards I was like, you know, after school, I was, 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:47.560 I mean the whole day I didn't do anything. I 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.520 was just looking at the clock waiting for like the 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:51.960 belder Ring and mom. That picked me up to be like, yo, 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.520 what's next, what's the next audition? I gotta get it, 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:55.120 you know what I mean. 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:57.520 So that was it. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:15:59.560 That was the beginning of how And then after that 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:05.280 I started watching TV shows really uh uh in more depth, 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.280 like you know, Three's Company and Growing Pains and and 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.440 just you know that whole the whole genre. Who's the Boss, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.960 And then we can go on and on and you know, 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:18.360 different strokes. Those are the things that you know, you 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.360 grew up watching. And I would remember and listen to 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:23.880 the rhythm and the comedy beats, the last the holes, 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.480 even at that age, and it was like all right, 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.240 you know. So then when I got my shot to 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.080 do different shows. It was like I started putting my 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:33.520 little flag and guest star on all, you know, all 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:38.320 the different shows and Boy Meets World. What. I'm sure Danielle, 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:40.360 you're going to ask about that and how it got 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.440 that because there was a little story behind now I do. 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:43.440 I want to get into that. 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:45.200 But before we get into that, I want to talk 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:50.680 about City Guys because our listeners were very excited when 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:53.440 they knew we would be talking to you. How old 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.080 were you when you were the star of City Guys. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:57.920 Yeah, I got City Guys. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.000 I think right when I was seventeen getting ready to 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.480 be eighteen. I was like, it was that transition. I 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:07.520 think that from the from the Yeah, I was about 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:08.399 seventeen eighteen. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:10.320 Yeah, yeah, and that. 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:13.920 Was It's funny because City Guys, seeing as it goes 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.560 to show you, I had already been in the business, 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.679 you know, almost ten years, you know what I mean 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.560 pretty much you know longer ten years and even then 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.000 just having been on quite a few guest starring roles 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:27.080 and looking at. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.160 My peers, I didn't I didn't. 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.480 I don't know. City Guys is weird because that was 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.520 a very very I didn't want to be I didn't mind. 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:39.879 Doing one season. In my mind, I was like, cool. 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.359 You know. The thing about it was that it was 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:43.200 Saturday morning. 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:49.560 I wanted to be on Prime Time, right, I want to. 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.000 I wanted to be where y'all was at, you know, right. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.200 I mean I mean this very respectfully. It was a 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.560 little like right or strong on our show? Who was 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.480 By the time then he got Boy Meets World was 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.639 already this was like his third or fourth major show. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.159 He was a little like, yeah, this is what I 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:08.520 really want to be doing. This is like he felt 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:12.399 a little like he was slumming it a bit. He 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.440 was like, this is keeping me from all this real 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:16.520 stuff I'm supposed to. 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:18.879 Yes, totally well, And did you feel like you were 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.840 it was taken away from music too. Were you still 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.480 like thinking you were going to be into music or no? 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:24.200 No, not really. 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.479 Even during that time, I was playing around with it, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:29.199 but I wasn't really serious because I think once I 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:32.000 got once the acting bug hit, it kind of over 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:35.720 over road. Yeah, it's a go over so for me though, 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.480 the same feeling rider was that I felt like city 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:40.640 guys at first. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.240 For many years, actually I felt city guys. 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.240 That was like, okay, here we are shooting at Sunset 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.600 and Gower, whereas stage four think was married with Children's 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.800 Old stage and we were shooting in between Moesha, which 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:58.080 I guest starred on, and The Parkers and here are 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.520 my peers on you know, Prime Time, you know night 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:03.240 three times as. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.880 Much money, and it's like and. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:08.720 I'm here and I'm like, I'm stuck in this contract 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.520 and I'm like, yo, I'm good enough to be over 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.240 there or or you know, doing something. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:12.520 Yeah. 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.040 So it was like that immature, very immature kind of 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.840 mentality where it was like, hey, listen, your average eighteen 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.720 year old is not making the money that you make. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.600