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Speaker 1: a kind gentleman named Ray Bats. And I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Mean, it was so and could you want to start right?

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Speaker 2: You taught me how to play, so why don't you start?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 4: As we've mentioned on the show before, I am a

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Speaker 4: I mean, and he figured out there's an Angela's purse.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to Pod Meets World.

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Speaker 1: Of I think we can all agree that one of

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Speaker 7: Let's welcome Wesley Jonathan Fast.

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Speaker 1: Get into our memories of working together later. But what

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Speaker 7: Like there's there's just some weird many moments they're just

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Speaker 3: I don't know. City Guys is weird because that was

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Speaker 6: Doing one season. In my mind, I was like, cool.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to be where y'all was at, you know, right.

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Speaker 6: For many years, actually I felt city guys.

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Speaker 3: again people to this very day still remember that show absolutely. Well.

443
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Speaker 2: That's the thing about Saturday Morning is so interesting. It's

444
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: a weird combination because it's less people watching but more kids.

445
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: So in a way, you're you're you can almost be

446
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 2: more important in people's lives on a Saturday morning show

447
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: because kids sit there and they're just stuck to the TV.

448
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 2: And so you know that you get kind of adults

449
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 2: watching the primetime shows and adults and kids, but man,

450
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 2: you've got that audience of kids just sitting there staring.

451
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you can make a lot of difference on

452
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Speaker 2: a Saturday morning show.

453
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Speaker 7: And was created by Peter Engel, who's same creator of

454
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Speaker 7: Saved by the Bell.

455
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Speaker 3: The Bell correct, correct, Yeah, So I mean it already

456
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: had a following just because of that alone, had the

457
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Speaker 3: whole lot.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And really amazing of you to recognize even back

459
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Speaker 1: then as a teen where you're you know, we all

460
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Speaker 1: have that same experience where we look back at ourselves

461
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 1: as teens and we think, man, if I could tell

462
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 1: myself one thing, it would be to appreciate it more. Yes,

463
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: but really truly incredible and admirable that you realized even

464
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 1: back then that, even though it wasn't exactly where you

465
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: wanted to be, the potential for you to break glass ceilings.

466
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Speaker 7: Everywhere all around you was there and you you did it,

467
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Speaker 7: and you you.

468
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Speaker 1: Like, it's just that's really great. I love that you

469
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: were even aware of that back then. Our very own

470
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 1: Trina McGee appeared on three episodes of City Guys.

471
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Speaker 7: Do you remember working with her?

472
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Speaker 6: Yes? I do, Yes, I do. In fact, I still

473
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Speaker 6: I think.

474
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Speaker 3: I think me and her follow each other on one Instagram.

475
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Speaker 3: I think it is yes Trina. It was weird because

476
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 3: when Trina, I think she done that three episodes as

477
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Speaker 3: my girlfriend. And thinking about when Trina got on air

478
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 3: was that I knew her because of the show. But

479
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: it was ironic that the episode that I did, she

480
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Speaker 3: wasn't or wasn't the.

481
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Speaker 2: Season she wasn't there.

482
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Speaker 7: Yeah, she wasn't there.

483
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Speaker 1: She joined us in season five and your episode was season.

484
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Speaker 6: Three three, right, okay, so yeah, that's what it was.

485
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 3: And I think we talked about it briefly with her

486
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: and she I don't think she had any idea, so

487
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 3: I told her. I was like, you know, I was,

488
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 3: I was on Boy Meets World years ago. I just

489
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 3: don't know what what you know, what what year lost?

490
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 6: What year it was? But Treda was sweet. She was cool, man.

491
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Speaker 6: And I would tell her in her face she's crazy

492
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Speaker 6: as a role is it? Uh?

493
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Speaker 3: I love her and death crazy. Yeah, man, we had

494
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Speaker 3: we had it was it was cool man, you know

495
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Speaker 3: what I mean. I thought that I thought it was

496
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: great to how she represented, you know, as a young

497
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Speaker 3: black woman on Boy Meet's World.

498
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Speaker 6: I thought that was really cool and that was a

499
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Speaker 6: nice spot for her. So yeah, she did. Yeah that's

500
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 6: how small those worlds inter Twine. Man.

501
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: Now, you guys had some really great guest stars. I'm

502
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: going to name a few other guest stars that you

503
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 1: had and you can tell me if you remember them.

504
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: And truthfully, writer and I barely remember anybody, so don't

505
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Speaker 1: feel bad. But Adam Brody was a guest star. He

506
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Speaker 1: was customer number two.

507
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Speaker 4: Yes, big part, big part, customer number two.

508
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 7: Of course he remembers that one.

509
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

510
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: Bravo Housewife. Kyle Richards played Katie Wow. Yeah, Jerry Turtle

511
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Ferrara was delivery boy Turtle yep, yep. Sarah Shaw he

512
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 1: played cheerleader, and Vanessa Lasha was hot girl yes ye.

513
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: Did anybody on this show actually have names? Or was

514
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: everybody just delivery guy? And you know.

515
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: What's crazy about this? As a cast, we joke about

516
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: this when we get together. We're like, do you understand

517
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: we ninety eight degrees? There were oh, there's a lot

518
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 3: of people. You still didn't name everybody but Sherman Hemsley,

519
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 3: who played mister Yes, George Jefferson Smon. Sir Hemsley did

520
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: an episode ninety eight degrees. As we know, they did

521
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 3: an episode so ironically, you know, Vanessa.

522
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Speaker 7: You could have set them up, could have you could.

523
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: But but they didn't. Let me tell you, guys, we

524
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: laugh because we're like, do everybody, I mean everybody ran

525
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: through our socity guys and they all became big bona

526
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: fide stars blowing up and then we look at each

527
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 3: other like what happened with us?

528
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 4: If you guys were holding down the fort and else

529
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: was moving through.

530
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 3: We're the launching path for everybody else's career and they

531
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Speaker 3: take off and we don't.

532
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Speaker 6: I mean, Adam Rody, come on, it's crazy.

533
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

534
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 2: I have to ask because I am a television fanatic.

535
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: It is, it's my my first love.

536
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: What was it like.

537
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Speaker 2: Working with Sherman Hemsley, I mean television royalty?

538
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,959
Speaker 6: Yo, when he trust me, I can't believe it.

539
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,959
Speaker 3: I think about it now again, that's me being spoiled

540
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: and just I first of all, get grew up watching

541
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: jeff Jefferson's.

542
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: When we got.

543
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: Him, I was like, yo, exactly, like, oh, this legendary

544
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: is iconic, you know, Sherman Hemsley, George Jefferson, like you know,

545
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 3: and he was such.

546
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Speaker 6: A cool dude.

547
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 3: Man he was, he was. It was probably one of

548
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: the he couldn't get it. Matter of fact, here's a

549
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: quick story. There was a scene we did and he

550
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 3: couldn't get his line correctly. And you know, he's getting

551
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: older at the time, you know what I mean. He

552
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: couldn't get his lines right and he was so frustrated

553
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 3: with himself. We were doing a live studio audience at

554
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 3: that time. That's just back when we all had you know,

555
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 3: the audience, and uh, he couldn't get his line, man,

556
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: and he said he must have dropped the F bomb

557
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 3: or something fun. And at the time you had to

558
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: be there. But to see George Jefferson cursed out of frustration,

559
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: it was.

560
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 6: So dang funny.

561
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: I was in tears to the points to where they

562
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: had to stop and pull met. I was crying, maker,

563
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: come off my face, and I said, dude, George Jefferson

564
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: and that person and the whole audience to kids was like, oh,

565
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 3: so he was great. It's about as humble as they

566
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: can be. Cool as a fan, I'm glad, but I

567
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 3: didn't Here's.

568
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Speaker 6: The things I did. I can't find I didn't get

569
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Speaker 6: a picture with him.

570
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 7: Oh, I didn't get it.

571
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 3: I didn't get a picture with them. I can't believe

572
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 3: I'm looking through all my old stuff. I mean, yeah,

573
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: screen time, but I didn't get an actual still picture

574
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: into the barrier. Dale's what was that thinking?

575
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 6: You know?

576
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because you can't, especially as a kid,

577
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: you can't imagine a future where photographic evidence is going

578
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: to mean.

579
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 7: A lot to you.

580
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: You're like, I've worked with I'm working with this person,

581
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: I worked with them all week. I have the memories.

582
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: It was not you know, I'm living in the moment.

583
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: But then thirty years later, when you're still sitting here

584
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: and you're talking about these people that are icons and

585
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: that you got to share time with them, It's so

586
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: crazy how important that like tangible proof of your previous

587
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: life becomes to you.

588
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, now, you're right, You're absolutely right.

589
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: I promise we're going to get to boy Meets World.

590
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: But you have so many things I'm to talk to

591
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 1: you about. So I want to talk to you about

592
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: Roll Bounce, where are you Disco Champions, Sweetness Active, Roller

593
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: Skated with bow Wow, Megan Good, Nick Cannon, Mike Epps

594
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: and Sean McBride.

595
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 6: And Charlie Murphy and flew of others.

596
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, what memories do you have from that set?

597
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: And how many bruises did you end up with?

598
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you know, it's a whole nother podcast for

599
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: us to share.

600
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: The how I got that role.

601
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 7: Talk about it.

602
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 3: Okay, So I'm going to try to some something, you know,

603
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: sum it up. You guys know when they call us

604
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 3: Sometimes you have a relationship with a cast and director

605
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: and they'll call you up and to do a table

606
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: read for a new project that hasn't you.

607
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 6: Know, they haven't bought yeah, exactly.

608
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 3: So they called me in uh and wanted me to

609
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: come in and just help with this table read.

610
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 6: They're selling this movie.

611
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 3: Roll Bounce, and then you know, producers wanted to see

612
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: if they liked it, and Yata ytta just you know,

613
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 3: the very very beginning skeletons of it. And it was

614
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: funny because me and Dion Bascall, who was on City Guys,

615
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 3: we were a part of this table read. Make a

616
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: long story short, They love the film a Fox Searchlight

617
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: ends up putting money out behind it to get it up.

618
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 6: On its feet. All right.

619
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: So I'm like, okay, cool, you know, and I've read

620
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: the character Sweetness at that time. And then come to

621
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: find out they you know, ended up wanting me to

622
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: audition for it. Now in my mind, I'm going, well,

623
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: I just did my audition. But ego, right, ego. So

624
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 3: it's like, all right, fine, I love the role. I

625
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: loved the film. It was a great you know, great script.

626
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: I'll go in and audition.

627
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 6: For it, you know. My mind like it's fair, but fine,

628
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 6: So I go in audition.

629
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 3: You know the process call back, come back, and then

630
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: you don't hear nothing quiet not the time.

631
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 6: So you guys know this is intertwine.

632
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: At the time I was shooting What I Like About You,

633
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 3: we were probably are this.

634
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: Was like the fourth seat. Yeah, like third or fourth season.

635
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: So let me pause frame on that because that's a

636
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: part of the story of What I Like about You.

637
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: So them to find out I don't hear anything for

638
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: a while, and come to find out they're shooting roll

639
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: Bounds in Chicago, and I'm like, well, the only the

640
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: only role hadn't cast it with Sweetness was my character.

641
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: And I was like when I found out, I was like,

642
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: what's what's up with that? And they're like, well, they're

643
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: trying to figure out if they want it's.

644
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 6: A true story.

645
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: They want Usher to play Sweetness or omar On from

646
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: B two K to play these two people were up

647
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: all right now that the studio liked me, but they

648
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 3: would have rather had obviously Usher.

649
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: Or o Mario, because why the studios are beating counters.

650
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: They it's all about the draw, right, But me and

651
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: as actor, as an artist, I'm saying it's ridiculous. I'm

652
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,719
Speaker 3: so tired of fighting this constant battle you know political

653
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 3: issues where it's like, look you got bow wow, who's

654
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: are already the start of this film? You put us

655
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: or Marian? You got a music video, it's not a

656
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: film anymore. You got music artist, You're an actor, thank you.

657
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 3: So it's the struggle we all have, right. So then

658
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: it's like malholmily caused me the director and says, hey, man,

659
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: I'm fighting for you for this what what's you know?

660
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: What's going on You're life?

661
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 3: I mean there were he's loft into a show, YadA

662
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: YadA YadA. That was an issue so Warner Brothers. I

663
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 3: had to you know, it was crazy. I fought really hard.

664
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: So I told him I live, man, So why do

665
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 3: you want to do this role? Because the Road didn't

666
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: have my agency managers, nobody wanted me to. They're like,

667
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: this role doesn't even speak. He didn't even do anything.

668
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 3: They didn't see what I saw. I said, he doesn't

669
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 3: have to speak. You don't understand. I was like, it's

670
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: the character. Every young man, old man, and you know

671
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: middle aged man wants to be sweetness. Every young, middle

672
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 3: aged or older woman wants to be with sweetness. I said,

673
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: this dude's gotta be funny. He's gotta be sexy, he's

674
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: gotta be scary, he's got to be all these colors.

675
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: Or you don't have a villain. You don't have, you know.

676
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 3: So he was like, man, all right, I'm sold. Let

677
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: me call you back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, da.

678
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 6: Cleans up the phone. I'm telling now, I'm fighting. I'm

679
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 6: gonna call them.

680
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: You know, everybody execs and you know what like about

681
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: you and I'm the writers.

682
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 7: And I look, man, let me you gotta let me,

683
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:20,959
Speaker 7: let me out.

684
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: I will listen write me out for because it overlapped perfectly.

685
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: I just would have missed one episode. So that's one week, right,

686
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: we all know that, right, So I said, dude, just

687
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 3: out forfeit the bread. Just you know, the money, just

688
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: wipe me out, bail me out, keep the money.

689
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 6: I don't I don't need it.

690
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: Just just just just make some arrangements to where do

691
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 3: you guys let me go to Chicago for two months

692
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: and do this movie. And they were reluctant. They felt

693
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: my passion and my pain through it, and uh ultimately ended.

694
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 6: Up doing it. Keep in mind, I didn't know how

695
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 6: to skate prior to the movie.

696
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 8: You skating, right, That's exactly what happened, right, I got

697
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 8: the roll, hung up, the phone was like, yeah, I

698
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 8: got it, and I was like, oh, So.

699
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 4: It was like the most actor thing to do. But

700
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: I could juggle. I could do it.

701
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 6: I can do it all. Don't even worry about it. Right,

702
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 6: So what happened was I ended up.

703
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 3: I ended up getting the role, and I flew. I

704
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 3: had a week to fly out. So I'm thinking to myself,

705
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: I can't I can't skate. So I went and bust

706
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: some skates to see how bad I really was. And

707
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 3: when I put them on and went to like I

708
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: was living in an apartment in alley, my alleyway, and

709
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, oh look, because I

710
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: did dance, that is an easy part, but skating was

711
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: a whole other beast.

712
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 2: You had a week, you had a week.

713
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 6: Well, I had a week before I flu out, right.

714
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: But when we got there, though, they put us through

715
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: skate boot camps.

716
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: So I trained.

717
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 3: I trained from like eight am to six pm from

718
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: every day with like professional you know skaters, and because

719
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: of legal purposes and insurance purposes, we all had doubles, right,

720
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: but I was not into that because my double he

721
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 3: was great. He was fantastic, but I wanted to show

722
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 3: people that I did most of my stuff. So I

723
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 3: was like, I was obsessed. I would go from eight

724
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: am to six pm at the skating rink, take my

725
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: skates home, and I'll be in the hotel skating on

726
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: rug in my hotel. So we talked about bruises and

727
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: swords and I was soaking and eb some salt and

728
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 3: tire bomb.

729
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: Was my best tire bomb jar. It was a mess.

730
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 3: So I trained extremely hard. I was probably in the

731
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 3: best shape of my life. And if I wasn't on skates,

732
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 3: I was down there in the gym lifting weights. I

733
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: didn't go I didn't really go out with all the

734
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 3: guys and you know, we're party like you know I was.

735
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 6: I had a mission.

736
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, you were there to prove yourself.

737
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I was pissed off. I was This is the

738
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: best way to describe it.

739
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: I was angry.

740
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: I was fed up with constantly fighting that somebody's got

741
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 3: a bigger name than you. That's somebody, you know, that's

742
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: the thing that we do. And it's like, dude, come on,

743
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: like yo, just give me give me a shot. Watch

744
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 3: And that was that was that was the whole thing.

745
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 3: So that's how that was a short version of a

746
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 3: robounce and how that came to me.

747
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 7: Man, Man, that's so cool.

748
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: That was a fun movie. That was a really fun movie.

749
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 1: Then I want to take the pause off of what

750
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: I like about you, because you mentioned that Amanda Bynes

751
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: and Jenny Garth yea like working specifically with Amanda, who

752
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: was such a genius for those types of comedic roles.

753
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: She was always being compared to Lucille Ball.

754
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 6: And you know, the first year it was like the

755
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: sticky thing.

756
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: You know, they took the whole Nickelodeon thing and kind

757
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: of was trying to fuse it into her new show

758
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: of prime time television. And I don't know behind the

759
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 3: scenes what happened, but I know that I'm pretty sure

760
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: Jenny Garth and even Amanda had issues with it because

761
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: after the first season, our whole format kind of changed,

762
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: like it was a lot more adult like, it was

763
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: a lot more driven to you know, the relationships of

764
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: you know, Jenny and Amanda and their dating lives, and

765
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: it just took a lot more mature kind of air.

766
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: And I actually appreciated it because Amanda's she's growing up.

767
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 6: She's no longer the Nickelodeon. She's a you know, a

768
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 6: young woman.

769
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: So Dan Schneider, who did all of the Nickelodeon stuff

770
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: with her and everything else.

771
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: And still doing it run and running the whole kid thing.

772
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: He I think he ended up. They ended up, you know,

773
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: getting some new producers in there and some new execs

774
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: you know, uh in there and uh Will Calhoun and

775
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 3: uh just and and they kind of changed the format

776
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 3: of the show. Amanda at the time was a sweetheart.

777
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: She was just you know, like I said, she was

778
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: just she was cool. She was I want to say,

779
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: not well behind the ears. She knew the industry, but

780
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: I felt like she was more well, yeah, there you go,

781
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: just kind of with life, you know what I mean,

782
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: like kind of just being exposed now to like all right,

783
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 3: you know, I'm driving, I'm doing this and I got

784
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: you know, I got some money, and I'm a.

785
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 6: Young lady and what is this all about?

786
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: You know? And uh And we would always tea you know,

787
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 3: tease and talk about talk. I was talked to her

788
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 3: and tease her about things. And in my role, here's

789
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: the funny thing about that.

790
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 6: They won't tell you this, but I'm gonna tell you.

791
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 6: In my opinion.

792
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: When I was auditioning for What I Like About You,

793
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: I tested with like I felt like the three to

794
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: five white guys, I was.

795
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 6: The only black dude.

796
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't think when they wrote that they were picturing

797
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: me a black guy being her best friend. They won't

798
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: tell you that, but I based on what I saw

799
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: on the sides and everything else, like y'all, y'all, y'all pictured,

800
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, and y'all picture some white boy, skater kind

801
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 3: of kid, it's gonna be her best friend.

802
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 6: I look in the room we're testing and going, okay,

803
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: here's as we do.

804
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: We signed each other up right the compensation like you know,

805
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm saying, okay, now, I know this

806
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 3: is gonna probably go, but okay, I'm I'm gonna they

807
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: got Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.

808
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 6: This's what I'm gonna do. Now, I'm gonna do my

809
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 6: thing right.

810
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm going I'm gonna be black, but I ain't gonna

811
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 3: be black scary, Whereas it's like, oh.

812
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 6: Oh my god, he's just he's just a FuG. You know,

813
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 6: I have him on the w.

814
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for coming, Thank you for coming, sir, Thank

815
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: you for coming. Sir, please please walk out to her.

816
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: So, but I'm gonna but I'm gonna give it a

817
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: little spin, a little spice, a little a little soul

818
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 3: on there as opposed to what they're gonna do. I

819
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: knew that because these I knew these white guys were

820
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 3: going to pretty much have the same genre of vibe

821
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 3: to their thing. What would be different from me is

822
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: being me and just being that cool. You know, hey, listen,

823
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm likable on either side from black folks,

824
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 3: from white folks that find in between that middle. That's

825
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: what I went for. So I got the role, and

826
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 3: I think I told I think I told Dan Snyder.

827
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 3: I was like, man, you ain't mean that to be No,

828
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 3: you didn't mean this role to be no black kid.

829
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 3: He's like, don't say that, Yeah.

830
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 6: Shut up here, and we laughed about it.

831
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 3: But being her best friend on the show, that that,

832
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 3: to me was like one of the things that was.

833
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 6: Very very cool and very different that, you know what

834
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 6: I mean.

835
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: And there was no romance, romantic kind of you know,

836
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: in your window with that, everybody wanted us to do that.

837
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 3: You could tell people were writing in like, hey, you

838
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: guys gonna get together and I.

839
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 6: Was like, no, it shouldn't. That would be expected, you

840
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

841
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: It's kind of you know, it's kind of it was

842
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 3: kind of like, uh, with you guys, with with Ben Savage,

843
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: right then you gotta start off.

844
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 7: His friends, right, Yes, he stands me right.

845
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 6: Right, So no, they kept it.

846
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 3: It was just like no, Gary, my character had his

847
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: own dating life, Jay Garth had theirs.

848
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 6: And we just all came together and the end.

849
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: But then we brought on new people. Nick Xano and it.

850
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 9: Was just n was on that show, and I was

851
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 9: just like, I don't want to say that was his

852
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 9: first first gig, but I think that was like I

853
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 9: think first major thing for Like I could be wrong, Nick, so.

854
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: Correct me, but yeah, that's one of his big like

855
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: this first big thing, like you know what I mean

856
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 3: on that scale. And Simon Rex was originally on there.

857
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: That's first that first year when it was kind of sticky,

858
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: and that was tough because I had bonded with because

859
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: it was only four of us.

860
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 6: It was just me, Jenny, Amanda and Signment. It was

861
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 6: only four of us.

862
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: And when they were going in a different direction and

863
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 3: they and he didn't get picked the show.

864
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 6: I picked up. But he didn't. That was that was

865
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 6: a little tough, especially after he had just bought a horse.

866
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by anything season one?

867
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 6: Never okay, wait right.

868
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: This is what Look this is this is something I

869
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: learned prior to this, had already done fifteen years plus.

870
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 6: I knew the game. So first first season, you chill.

871
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't buy anything season one, don't sign the least.

872
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 4: Season one yep, month to month.

873
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 6: That's real. So I was like, well he did it.

874
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 6: I was like, because when we rolled up with it,

875
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 6: I was that's nice. I was like, you.

876
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: Deal with like you know, you don't know.

877
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 6: He's like that shouldn't be fun. Be fun, and mind

878
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 6: I'm going, been there, done that.

879
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 3: He's still.

880
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 6: That's right.

881
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about Boy Meets World

882
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: and Train of Fools. So do you remember getting that role?

883
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 6: I do? I do?

884
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 3: It was okay, so check this out. So Michael Jacobs,

885
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: your guys is a big dog, right he he was

886
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: doing the show. And I don't know if you got

887
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: because typically when we work with a producer, we kind

888
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: of know their their whole run, you know what I mean,

889
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: They're all their shows, their new shows are coming up

890
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: with But he was doing a show, a new show

891
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: called Misery Loves Company.

892
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 7: Yes, it's come up a few times on World.

893
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, see there we go. Now see now

894
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: Misery Loves Company. H Dennis Boots, Karasu, Chris was a Maloney,

895
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 3: Chris Uh, and Julius Carrey. It was four dudes, right, and.

896
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 6: That that's where he met.

897
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: He was on our show multiple times.

898
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 6: So okay, that's what so so you start to see

899
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 6: the connection, right. Yeah.

900
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: So Julius Carrey, who passed away rest in Peace was

901
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: ironically I grew up watching him from a huge film

902
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: called The Last Dragon.

903
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: Which is one of the best movies ever made in

904
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: the history of the world. Was one of the greatest

905
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: characters ever ever.

906
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 6: So check this out. This is great. Okay. So I audition, No,

907
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: I didn't audition. I'm sorry.

908
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: Oh I did audition for Misery lest Company. I got

909
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: the role to play Julius Carey's son.

910
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 7: Okay, I can see that, and it was.

911
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: It was I did out of thirteen episode I was

912
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 3: signed on to do eight, so that technically was my

913
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 3: first regular and I was a regular series regular series regular.

914
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 6: So I had the job. We shot I don't even

915
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 6: know how many was shot.

916
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: But the only aired I think three yeah, and let

917
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 3: me tell you that was my first that was my

918
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: first regular series show. It just didn't take off. And

919
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 3: Michael Jacobs was real cool. He saw I was bummed

920
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 3: or whatever the case may be, and it was like,

921
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: all right, everybody parted ways.

922
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 6: I didn't think anything of it. Got a call.

923
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: I want to say, every guy, the show was my

924
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 3: first offer as an actor.

925
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 4: Without having to audition, right.

926
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: I really want I'm thinking back to all the work.

927
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: I really think this is my first time being offered like, hey,

928
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: you don't have to audition, it's yours.

929
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 6: Michael feeling.

930
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: And he I think he said that. He was like, man,

931
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry this didn't work out with the show.

932
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: This is political stuff that you know, you know, but

933
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: I want you to go. You know, this has a

934
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 3: nice li role on a Boy Meets World. But of

935
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: course Boys World, right, it was the hit show at

936
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 3: the time. I know that that's great, you know, so

937
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 3: because I said, yeah, you know, I want you to

938
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: do that, and it's like cool, absolutely, So that's how

939
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 3: I got all your guys showing. What's funny is that

940
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 3: that that set the subway set little do you guys know,

941
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 3: we use that same subway set on City Guys. Really,

942
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 3: there's an episode on City Guys where we're on the

943
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: subway and I kid you not, I'm looking around and

944
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 3: everybody's like we're rehearsal and just kind of we're.

945
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 6: You know, looking around and I'm.

946
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: Quiet, and everybody's like, what are you looking at it?

947
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 3: I was like, this is gonna be I said you.

948
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 3: I was on Boy Means World on this exact set.

949
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: It's different. Yes, it's got a different little advertisements and

950
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: things on it, but I was like, this is it.

951
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: This has got to be it. I was like and

952
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 3: just started thinking like, well, actually, studios interchange a lot

953
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 3: of their you know, you know, rent rent this and

954
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 3: rent that. So I'm pretty sure if I can go

955
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: back and find the episode of City Guys that you got,

956
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: you guys are backmil and go yeah, that's it.

957
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so funny.

958
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 2: I just it's so I'm sorry. I I you know,

959
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: me and Tangents. But you mentioned Julius uh and you

960
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: mentioned uh I'm his movie. So The Last Dragon meant

961
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 2: so much to me growing up that I just wanted

962
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: to be Bruce Leroy and when he came, when he

963
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: was on the show we got to do. We did

964
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 2: a scene together where Eric is sneak attacking h to

965
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: Panga everywhere she goes, and he and I worked out

966
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: a scene where I said, you know, if I jump

967
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: on your back, He's like, Oh, if you jump on

968
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: my back, I can grab you and flip you over,

969
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 2: do a full flip over the thing. And I looked

970
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 2: at him at one point I went, I have to

971
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: tell you how important what we're about to do means

972
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: to me, because I feel like your shown up and

973
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm Bruce Lee Roy and we're in the middle of

974
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 2: a fight, and he's like, well, that's very nice of

975
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 2: you to say it. I was like, you have no

976
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: idea how important this movie was, Like this was my

977
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: childhood was this movie. And so the idea that we

978
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 2: did a martial arts move together on set was like

979
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: I almost cried that day. It was awesome to me.

980
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, I didn't even know I was working with

981
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: him until Like, it's just because the hair.

982
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 6: His hair was low cut and short. That's just so

983
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 6: different and it was so different.

984
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 7: So back to Boy Meets World, Train of Fools.

985
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Do you have any Do you have any specific memories

986
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: of filming that day of being on set, like, do

987
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: you have any cool subway stories?

988
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 7: Lots of partying extras?

989
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: I remember, yeah, remember that.

990
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: I remember there was a there was a cute French

991
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: made uh uh Arima Carpenter.

992
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Carpenter.

993
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember that. I was eyeballing her. Uh

994
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: let's see.

995
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 6: I remember I remember thinking, I remember everybody had frush

996
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 6: on you. I was.

997
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: I remember thinking like, man, yeah.

998
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: That was the famous subway episode too. It was the

999
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: famous subway outfit to wasn't it, Daniel? Yeah, like the

1000
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: orange orange.

1001
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: The orange yeah, wearing a short skirt like I mean,

1002
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 1: white tights or something.

1003
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1004
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: I remember being nervous maybe the first run at it,

1005
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: but once once I got the gist of what was

1006
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 3: going on. Then because I felt this, I felt a

1007
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: little pressure because I didn't audition for it, you know something,

1008
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like when we auditioned for us,

1009
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: all right, we got it, they want me. Yeah, but

1010
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 3: it's like yeah to offer and then you do it there,

1011
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 3: maybe we shouldn't have gave it.

1012
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 1: So, you know, it's like we're always second guessing ourselves

1013
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: always always.

1014
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: So you remember remember that week though, where we were

1015
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: getting I mean the direction that week, did we have

1016
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 2: an we didn't have an audience.

1017
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 6: That was shot Yeah, that with the audience and we

1018
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 6: can't do that.

1019
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, all the camera angles and there was like a

1020
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: hundred shots on one page.

1021
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 5: For Jeff McCracken.

1022
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 7: It was no music, but lots of dancing.

1023
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 6: Lots of dancing.

1024
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it was pre taped and it was

1025
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: oh my god. Yeah, it was a lot of like

1026
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 3: this miming dancing and most uncomfortable.

1027
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's Wednesday at eleven a m. Get your party

1028
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 7: on with the music go, you.

1029
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: Know, people shaking the subway to make it seem like

1030
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: it was. It was moving and yeah.

1031
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. I also remember thinking it was cool to uh

1032
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: work with Ben because I was such a fan of Friends.

1033
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of which, ironically, Fred directed one episode of What

1034
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 3: I Like About.

1035
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: You Okay early in his career.

1036
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, man, this is yeah.

1037
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: So Fred did an episode and when he I saw

1038
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: his name, I was like, what first to do us?

1039
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about. I don't even think. I

1040
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 6: don't even think I mentioned to him that I was.

1041
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 6: Maybe I did mentioned it.

1042
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: I was on Boyman's World, but yeah, I thought I

1043
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: remember being I was like, that was cool, man, because

1044
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 3: I remember seeing Ben as a little kid tag along

1045
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: right behind Fred on films, and I thought it was

1046
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: pretty cool. But I was a big fan of Fred,

1047
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: so I thought that was really cool.

1048
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Well, and years after Boy Meets World ended, you would

1049
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: later end up acting with Right or Strong in a

1050
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: short film you guys played. You played a cop as

1051
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: cold Blan. Did you guys reminisce about boy Meets World

1052
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: when you were there?

1053
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 6: What did we did?

1054
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: We talk about that?

1055
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 4: We made the connection. We were like, oh yeah, yeah.

1056
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 4: I was like, how could I forget that?

1057
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: I feel like I had I feel like I was

1058
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 3: whatever because Right, I know how it is when you're

1059
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 3: on a series and you've done one hundred and plus

1060
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: episodes of something and you got so many guest stars

1061
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 3: that have run through. I think I had to remind

1062
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 3: Rider like yeah, man, yeah exactly, because that was.

1063
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 4: The time when I was like blocking boy me the

1064
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 4: world out of my.

1065
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 6: Life when I was a kid.

1066
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: We're cops, now, we're cop Please call me Officer Rigby. Please,

1067
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 2: oh my god, please refer to me by my character name,

1068
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: if you would.

1069
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 4: You and me we took a picture. I have I

1070
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 4: think it was like one of the right one. Like

1071
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 4: I just joined Twitter, so it's one of the first

1072
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 4: things I tweeted out was a picture of you and me.

1073
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 4: Really yeah, because I was so stoked because I got

1074
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 4: like the kind of holster that like yeah, yeah, but

1075
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: like this is awesome. We're so badass. I was like,

1076
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 4: let's take a badass photo. Like, so there's a photo

1077
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 4: of you just looking as tough as we can. I'll

1078
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 4: post it. Was amazing. It's one of my favorite photos, Like, wow,

1079
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 4: we actually look like cops.

1080
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 6: This is great.

1081
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,479
Speaker 3: Will me a favorite and send me that, man, because

1082
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember get about the whole.

1083
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 4: Was like we were so stoked.

1084
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, hilarious.

1085
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: Plus, how do you forget the Subway episode? I mean

1086
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: that week of shooting was is just etched in my

1087
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: mind almost every minute of it because it was that

1088
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: was that was a brutal sitcom. Really rarely do you

1089
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: have a brutal week on sitcom, and so when you do,

1090
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: it sticks out.

1091
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: That was brutal.

1092
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,439
Speaker 2: That was a tough week.

1093
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 3: It was I remember it was very very drop because

1094
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: I like the your Guys lines. I rememorized them as

1095
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: I was sitting Oh my gosh dude, Rebecca Alexa, Rebecca Alexa, Rebecca.

1096
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Speaker 2: Rebecca Alexa, Rebecca Alexa, supermodel who wants to date a

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Speaker 2: high school girl?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: High school guy, guy girl. It doesn't matter, they're in

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Speaker 2: high school. It's all wrong, it's all wrong. For God's says,

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Speaker 2: it's all wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have another thing I wanted to talk to

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Speaker 1: you about. So, shows like Sister, Sister, Smart Guy, Milisha,

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Speaker 1: a Different World, all of which you appeared on, have

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Speaker 1: really seen a massive resurgence in nostalgia because of the

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Speaker 1: limited representation at the time, when most millennials were growing up,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of black representation.

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Speaker 7: What did those shows mean to.

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Speaker 1: Black actors and their careers and just as important, what

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Speaker 1: does it mean to a black audience.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, it means that our stories, when our stories

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Speaker 3: want to be heard, they should be told that we

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Speaker 3: have stories and don't want to sound cliche that it matters,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, our stories, our stories are important as well,

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Speaker 3: you know, to be told those shows meant a lot

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Speaker 3: to me because especially a Different World along the lines

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Speaker 3: of like the Cosby shows, because of the shows that

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Speaker 3: I grow watching as well, and to be able to

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Speaker 3: actually be on a show like A Different World was

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Speaker 3: huge because it's like, these are shows that I watched,

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Speaker 3: these are shows that I've never thought in a million

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Speaker 3: years that I would be on. So it's important as

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Speaker 3: a community. It's important. It's not even just the black folks,

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Speaker 3: but it's important that our story is told to other folks,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, everyone's story, you know, everybody

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Speaker 3: who cultural backgrounds has stories, and that these stories should

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Speaker 3: be recognized, acknowledged.

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Speaker 6: And uh and seeing.

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Speaker 3: So uh, yeah, it's just you know, back then again

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Speaker 3: it was it was like now it's a little different.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot a little bit, it's a

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Speaker 3: lot better, a lot better. But back then it was like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 3: it was Neil and Haystacks here and there. You know,

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Speaker 3: you get to you know, you get these shows, and

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Speaker 3: but yeah, it's just it's it's it's it's again.

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Speaker 6: It's it's better. It's better. It's got a long way

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Speaker 6: to go, but it's still it's better.

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Speaker 2: It also just showed though, that good TV is good TV.

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Speaker 6: There you go, that's what you know.

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Speaker 2: A Different World is a great show. The show was

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Speaker 2: a great show. Different strokes. These are all just good shows.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the things I think

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Speaker 2: good is good. You know, they're just good.

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Speaker 6: In the end, it's good. It's it's.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have again the what's Happening good times

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Speaker 3: and you said all in the Family and uh Sanford

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Speaker 3: and Son, all these shows at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: taking color out of it. Obviously you have to see

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Speaker 3: it for what it is. But if you take color

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Speaker 3: out of it at the end, it's just the darn

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Speaker 3: good show.

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Speaker 6: You know. It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: So you can't take that away and try to undermine

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Speaker 3: it just because oh it's a cast full of black folks. No,

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00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: does it make you laugh? That's that's all that matters.

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Speaker 3: It's entertaining you, that's all that matters. Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, those shows, man.

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Speaker 3: Are again that that's in my mind. They all help

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Speaker 3: me because I didn't take any at my first acting

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00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: class or workshop I think I was twenty. This is

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00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: like during like City Guys, and I just I went

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Speaker 3: to do it just because a friend was running in.

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Speaker 6: But prior to that, how did I learn?

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Speaker 3: I learned by watching the shows that we watched and

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Speaker 3: the shows that we were on, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: Just that's how I really got uh to understand the

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Speaker 3: comedy of sitcom at least just by watching you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, and mimicking and uh, that's that was

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Speaker 3: my that was my acting school.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: Well, Wesley, you are very important to an entire generation

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Speaker 1: of kids, and we are so honored that you were

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Speaker 1: willing to spend your time with us today talking about

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite memories. You've been an absolutely fascinating

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Speaker 1: guest and it's been so nice to reconnect with you.

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for joining us here today

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Speaker 1: and sharing so much of your story with us.

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Speaker 3: Ah Man, thank you. That meant a lot. Sometimes, you know,

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00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 3: we forget, we get in our way and it's like, man,

1180
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 3: you know, you know, it's like all his work just

1181
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 3: kick me to the side. But that means a lot.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. And it was great to hook up

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00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 3: with you guys and see you guys again. You guys

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Speaker 3: look good man.

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Speaker 6: We all hanging tough, man.

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00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 7: Yes we are.

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Speaker 3: We are.

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00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: We're hanging in there, and I really hope we get

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to see you again.

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Speaker 7: We've talked about it a few times.

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00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: We really do need to plan it, but we are

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Speaker 1: planning on having a huge Boy meets World Reunion, and

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Speaker 1: we are wanting to invite as many people who are

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00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,919
Speaker 1: as willing to come. So if you're willing to come

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00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: to our party, we will see you in person again.

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00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 6: Please invite me to the.

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00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 7: Hey nice, Thank you so much. We'll see you again.

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Speaker 7: Thank you. Wesley.

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Speaker 6: All right, bye bye bye bye bye.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: That was so fun, so good to see him. He's

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00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: endlessly fascinating.

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00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 2: We have to have this party. I want to see

1204
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 2: these people so badly. I mean, he I want to

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00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 2: talk to him about just being on the sets he

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Speaker 2: was on. I mean, he worked with Sherman Hemsley. It's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so television Royalty. I love that he just like fell

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Speaker 2: into acting too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like oh I just learned how to act by

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Speaker 4: doing it on every television show that was like casting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask him, That's what I want to thing.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to ask him. I want to ask him

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Speaker 2: where he was from. Was he born and raised in

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Speaker 2: la I think so must Yeah, Okay, so he's from

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Speaker 2: around here. Okay, Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: if he was from around here. He had moved in

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Speaker 2: like the like the.

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Speaker 7: Rest of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's from He's from l A and then he

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Speaker 1: moved to Germany for a few years as a as

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Speaker 1: a youngster. He lived in Germany as a young kid,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't talk about that.

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Speaker 4: So what story the so cool?

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Speaker 2: I love how he remembers Rebecca Alexa too. He had

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Speaker 2: to say it so many times, Okay, so if we

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Speaker 2: had to say the name so many times Rebecca.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 1: of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us

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Speaker 7: We'll see y'all next time. We'll send us out.

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