Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl drama girl,
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Speaker 4: Okay, so we're gonna have kind of a chaotic show
Speaker 4: for you because I'm getting furniture delivered right well of
Speaker 4: this episode. I tried so hard to make sure that
Speaker 4: this furniture delivery didn't happen while we were recording, but
Speaker 4: sometimes the universe just wants to add a little spice to.
Speaker 3: Which your things never quite work out. Plus, you've got
Speaker 3: people yelling outside your window. The tree drummers are mad
Speaker 3: at each other. You guys.
Speaker 4: We I just got an office for the first time
Speaker 4: since I worked at MTV, like an adult office, and
Speaker 4: it has been nothing but chaos. So bear with us
Speaker 4: as I put this place together. Meanwhile, we also have
Speaker 4: a wild card with us today for twenty three questions.
Speaker 2: I'm very excited, aren't you.
Speaker 3: I'm so stoked. I always love when we get to
Speaker 3: talk to Barbara, Barbara Allan Woods ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4: She's so good looking, Barbara with the good light, yes,
Speaker 4: and the green kitchen else.
Speaker 2: The load is joy.
Speaker 4: Love it your home. You never are home. You're always
Speaker 4: on vacation.
Speaker 2: I just got here.
Speaker 3: You are You're always off with your girls somewhere fabulous.
Speaker 2: We just drove seventy two hundred miles.
Speaker 4: What you're such a fun mom.
Speaker 2: Well I did it for me too, Like you don't
Speaker 2: get a chance to do that. And so with as
Speaker 2: soon as we heard about the strike, we hit the road.
Speaker 4: Was it all the girls in you? So?
Speaker 2: So Emily would meet up with us from time to time,
Speaker 2: because that's what does she could fly there. Yes, and
Speaker 2: then Natalie and or her boyfriend did the same thing.
Speaker 2: But then we kind of like we would merge and
Speaker 2: then separate and then get back together. And Ali was
Speaker 2: with me the whole time.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so fun.
Speaker 2: He dro We saw everybody. It was a month and
Speaker 2: it was amazing.
Speaker 3: What a great idea. What was your route? Where did
Speaker 3: you guys go?
Speaker 2: And we didn't have a schedule, We just decided where
Speaker 2: we wanted to go. We would go and he ended
Speaker 2: up We were in Wilmington for a while and it
Speaker 2: was the first time I had been in Wilmington where
Speaker 2: I didn't have to be there, you know, mentioned there
Speaker 2: was you know, I was able to hang out with
Speaker 2: my friends. I wasn't busy, I didn't have a schedule
Speaker 2: and it was amazing.
Speaker 4: Well, you stayed somewhere cool. You sent us the link
Speaker 4: for this awesome new place, right fuys have.
Speaker 2: To know about this because she wants to put up
Speaker 2: all of us. I mean, if she could help the
Speaker 2: One Tree Hill connection. It was so great because it's
Speaker 2: right on the river and there are these like condos,
Speaker 2: these two bedroom condos that overlook the river and they're
Speaker 2: brand new.
Speaker 3: This is their house boats, Babe, their house boats. Oh wait,
Speaker 3: you're thinking there's condos like on the downtown.
Speaker 2: Because I mean, you don't. They don't move, but they
Speaker 2: rock a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: It's like Vancouver.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I love to do that. That's so fun.
Speaker 2: Please, if you're heading that way, let me know and
Speaker 2: I'll hook you up.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Listen for anybody that loves the River
Speaker 4: Court and just really wants to spend some time on
Speaker 4: the Cape Fear River that's the perfect place to hang out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, and the views and their little patios
Speaker 2: and you can see fish flo it's just like unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I love it.
Speaker 4: So we've got twenty three questions that we've been asking
Speaker 4: everyone since we're all on strike and we standing in solidarity,
Speaker 4: and we don't want to talk about the job we
Speaker 4: necessarily did together, but we want to know everything about you.
Speaker 4: So I hope you're prepared to tell us all your
Speaker 4: secrets today.
Speaker 3: Joy kick it off, okay, Barbara, what is your idea
Speaker 3: of perfect happiness?
Speaker 2: Oh? Being perfect happiness for me is being in the
Speaker 2: same country, same state, same room, doing the same thing
Speaker 2: with all three of my girls at the same time.
Speaker 2: And that rarely happens, and right now my life, that's happening.
Speaker 2: So I am very very content.
Speaker 4: I love that they want to hang out with you, Barbara, Like,
Speaker 4: that is such a goal to have your adult children.
Speaker 2: Want to hang out with you if they just feel
Speaker 2: guilty and I guilty, feel guilty. No, no, but that's
Speaker 2: the big thing about kids getting older. And I was
Speaker 2: so afraid of that because I I had such a
Speaker 2: box with my kids when they were younger, but as
Speaker 2: they get older, it's just a whole different thing. They
Speaker 2: become your friend. And that sounds so cliche, but they
Speaker 2: really do, you know.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I don't know if it is cliche, Barbara,
Speaker 3: because I have so many people in my life who
Speaker 3: and I'm sure you encountered this too when the girls
Speaker 3: were young, or like, oh just wait until she's a teenager.
Speaker 3: It's all going to go in the pooper, And I
Speaker 3: got to say, it's not the truth. It's not always
Speaker 3: the case. And actually, watching you raise your daughters so
Speaker 3: far ahead of me raising Maria really gave me a
Speaker 3: lot of hope and inspiration that like, it's gonna be okay,
Speaker 3: Like I actually can still be friends with her. We're
Speaker 3: not destined to hate each other for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: No, And not to say I didn't have a We
Speaker 2: did have a few teenage moments, of course, a few,
Speaker 2: but in general, and then it all just comes round.
Speaker 2: And seriously, when they get into their twenties, they become
Speaker 2: your best friend. And Ali has never gone through any teenage.
Speaker 4: Moments, like way ally.
Speaker 2: The most solid kid, like it's just yeah, it's okay,
Speaker 2: you can do some things. Once she doesn't. She's just
Speaker 2: a really good kid.
Speaker 4: Are you trying to get her to rebel? At this
Speaker 4: point you're like, hey, I'm not paying attention right now.
Speaker 4: You could sneak out of the house.
Speaker 2: I never rebelled, and she's a little bit of a
Speaker 2: mini me, so maybe that's why. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I'm a little it.
Speaker 4: Later she'll get into like some weird stuff in her
Speaker 4: thirties and you'll be like, what is this about.
Speaker 2: I'm so old by then I won't care. Yeah, she
Speaker 2: has entertainment.
Speaker 4: Okay. So then that leads us to our second question,
Speaker 4: which is a total one eighty Uh what is your
Speaker 4: greatest fear?
Speaker 3: Don't don't, dun't.
Speaker 2: Okay, I want to say, you know, sharks, that's boring.
Speaker 2: My fear is to be isolated in a place where
Speaker 2: I know I can't get out without my chapstick.
Speaker 4: What you do have sumptuously, I mean, I completely like.
Speaker 2: And if I can't get my coffee in the morning,
Speaker 2: I know that, Like you know, we'll go camping Vulham.
Speaker 2: Am I gonna have my coffee?
Speaker 3: Mar Wait, Barbara, You're like, you've done so many amazing projects.
Speaker 3: The last one one of the ones that you did
Speaker 3: was with like was a horror movie with like a doll, Like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Chapstick?
Speaker 2: No situational life moments like oh here, oh my god,
Speaker 2: she just pulled chapstick out of her boobs. I'm like,
Speaker 2: you just know that if they need chapstick and we're
Speaker 2: out in public somewhere, they'll just reach in my cleavage
Speaker 2: and get it, because they don't always there.
Speaker 4: Barbara, I could not have scripted that better. That was
Speaker 4: a magical revelution right there.
Speaker 3: That was my favorite barbera secret.
Speaker 2: Ever, how long have you been doing that? How long
Speaker 2: has that been your little.
Speaker 4: Chapstick pocket.
Speaker 2: For a very long time?
Speaker 4: And it's always kind of warm now it is.
Speaker 2: It kind of like gets it kind of soft. It's perfect.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, listen, I'm doing it. You know how
Speaker 2: they say, you know, but don't start chapstick because you'll
Speaker 2: get addicted. Well, I'm there.
Speaker 4: Do you have a brand? What's your brand?
Speaker 2: Well, because I was using chapstick and my girl said, oh,
Speaker 2: don't use chapstick because that's really addicting. So I'm trying
Speaker 2: this little chapstick thing called love Okay, and it has
Speaker 2: an it's.
Speaker 4: Most of all the vices in the world that one
Speaker 4: seems manageable.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's good for you. That's my biggest fear.
Speaker 3: All right, what about this? If you could be the
Speaker 3: best in the world that's something, anything, anything at all,
Speaker 3: what would it be.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to be the best dancer in
Speaker 2: the world. And let me tell you, I am a
Speaker 2: little bit self conscious about suburban housewife dancing. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago, where actors are triple threats, and if
Speaker 2: you want an actor, you take voice and you take dance,
Speaker 2: and if you're not a triple threat, like, good luck.
Speaker 2: And I kept up with the voice, and I'm okay.
Speaker 2: But I always knew that I wasn't going to be
Speaker 2: the best at dancing, and so it was a little
Speaker 2: discouraging and I didn't keep up with it the way
Speaker 2: I should have. And I've always been a little self conscious,
Speaker 2: like I have little.
Speaker 4: Stripper moves that I can do. But weren't you in
Speaker 4: the de me Moar movie? Were you movie?
Speaker 2: I did? I can do my stripper moves. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was a cheerleader. I can do foreographed moves. But
Speaker 2: when it comes you're like, let's get on the dance
Speaker 2: floor and dance like, oh god, really, And so if
Speaker 2: I could be the best dancer in the world or
Speaker 2: not even have to worry about it, that would be amazing.
Speaker 4: I feel like we've seen you dance, and I think
Speaker 4: it's great. You got our vote.
Speaker 2: I concur thank you. I love it. Okay, hold on,
Speaker 2: what's our next question? It is?
Speaker 4: Oh god, Barbara, come on. What is the weirdest item
Speaker 4: that you keep by your bed? I'm sorry I have
Speaker 4: I'm a very high maintenance sleeper.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I have a lot of things by my bed. But
Speaker 2: probably the weirdest is most people have white noise machines.
Speaker 2: I have a brown noise machine.
Speaker 3: What is that? Yeah, I've heard of this.
Speaker 2: Ever heard of brown noise? Oh it's deeper, it's more base,
Speaker 2: and it feels like you're in the womb.
Speaker 3: Yeah. What it's like a lulling, like to the mo Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's constant. It has to be constant, because some
Speaker 2: noise machines have a break and so like every so
Speaker 2: often you'll hear like a click. It has to be constant.
Speaker 2: And so I have a brown noise machine and it
Speaker 2: travels with me everywhere I go and and I have
Speaker 2: not found an app on my phone that is the
Speaker 2: same as this one machine that I have. How did
Speaker 2: you even learn about brown noise? I mean I was
Speaker 2: always into white noise. I like something about so I'm
Speaker 2: not distracted. I always like a white noise.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: I always wished it was lower in my head. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I just wish the tone was lower.
Speaker 2: I'm looking into it, and sure enough, there's pink noise
Speaker 2: and brown. What else? I don't know. I know pink
Speaker 2: and brown, but brown's the best. Check it out. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sold. I love this well, learning so much.
Speaker 4: Totally, Like I'm going to be on Amazon all night
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, well, I guess I need the
Speaker 4: ten foot skeleton and I need the brown noise.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I'll let you know which one you
Speaker 2: can get on Amazon for sure.
Speaker 3: I don't know you were high made in sleeper. I
Speaker 3: am too. There's a lot of things I'm very particular about.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, when I sleep.
Speaker 2: Like, what give me one?
Speaker 3: Well, it has to be absolutely dark. I can't deal
Speaker 3: with things that are glowing, like a room with the
Speaker 3: blue you know, the plugs that glow blue, or you know,
Speaker 3: and the television can't have a little light up like nothing,
Speaker 3: it'll keep me awake. The temperature is a big deal.
Speaker 3: I really can't sleep if it's any warmer than sixty
Speaker 3: nine sixty eight sixty nine mine is me? Yeah, yeap,
Speaker 3: And and I mean you could go much colder. Let's
Speaker 3: do it. It'd be great. And also like people who
Speaker 3: want to sleep too close, I cannot get away from
Speaker 3: me and I need a pillow between my knees.
Speaker 4: You do do interesting. This is also interesting to me
Speaker 4: because there's like a whole subculture I'm learning sleep culture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of like I don't want.
Speaker 4: To say particular sleepers, but like sensitive sleepers. You could
Speaker 4: open up a whole hotel that caters just a sensitive sleepers.
Speaker 2: Do it?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: You know when people you know just are at a
Speaker 2: party and they say, well just stay over, you know,
Speaker 2: just say I can't do it because I have my
Speaker 2: stuff with me. Yeah, you need to think I'm it's
Speaker 2: really tough. And when we were on the road for
Speaker 2: those seventy two hundred miles, I had all of my stuff.
Speaker 4: You brought in a bag with your brown noise and
Speaker 4: your knee pillow every night in potentials. Yes, I like that.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll talk shop some more later. Right now, I
Speaker 3: want to know, Okay, what is what living person do
Speaker 3: you most admire?
Speaker 2: My mom? That's awesome and once again a little cliche,
Speaker 2: but it's true. I mean she gave up her a
Speaker 2: whole life for her kids, and that's how I learned
Speaker 2: to be a mom, and that's how I learned about
Speaker 2: holidays and how to stay young. And I mean I
Speaker 2: owe my whole life to her. So I'm for sure.
Speaker 4: Well that's it that you said she stayed young.
Speaker 2: She taught you how to stay young as.
Speaker 4: We grow up. Man, that is a whole skill that
Speaker 4: no one talks you about, just like staying young. And
Speaker 4: you've always stayed like very young, Barbara.
Speaker 2: You're playful. I mean, it's up here for sure, and
Speaker 2: so is my mom.
Speaker 4: All right, Next question, what is your current state of mind?
Speaker 4: Where's your head at right now?
Speaker 2: Complete utter contentment talking to you guys.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: I always feels so happy and safe talking to you guys,
Speaker 2: and miss you so much, and I'm just really really
Speaker 2: always happy to be doing this with you.
Speaker 3: You're so consistent, too, Barbara. I feel like every time
Speaker 3: I see you, you're just a steady, steady person.
Speaker 2: Oh, on the on, side.
Speaker 4: But what is so rare?
Speaker 3: That's true. So then what in that case is your
Speaker 3: greatest extravagance?
Speaker 2: Start, Oh, talk about high maintenance. My blonde ice vanilla
Speaker 2: latte every single morning, and if I don't have it,
Speaker 2: I know, if I know I can't get it in
Speaker 2: the morning, I will get it the night before and
Speaker 2: put it in the fridge and you just get it
Speaker 2: with no ice because then you can just add the
Speaker 2: ice in the morning. But seriously, when I'm looking for
Speaker 2: a hotel or an apartment when we're on location, I
Speaker 2: make sure that it's near a coffee shop. And it
Speaker 2: can't be the coffee that I make myself. It has
Speaker 2: to be, you know, going out and getting it. There's
Speaker 2: something about this that I need. It's so stupid because
Speaker 2: coffee is just cand of keep getting more expensive. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's I consider this an extravagance. I've been doing it
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 3: That's good. So chapstick noise and you're fancy Starbucks coffees.
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I mean three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 2: days a year. Times, that's extravagant.
Speaker 3: That's pretty low maintenance. Hime maintenance, Barbra, Okay, good.
Speaker 4: Well, okay, what do you most value in your friends.
Speaker 2: What qualities I think the common denominator with all of
Speaker 2: my best friends are that they're very non judgmental people,
Speaker 2: accepting of everybody and especially accepting of me. Unconditional love
Speaker 2: and oh tear Duck's open to me and they just
Speaker 2: accept me for who I am, and that allows me
Speaker 2: to be who I am around them. And as I
Speaker 2: get older, I think easy goes a long way, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to have to work when I'm with people,
Speaker 2: and yeah, they're just I feel the uncondition and a
Speaker 2: love And I have a lot of friends. I have
Speaker 2: a few really good friends, and I would say that
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of like, yeah, the common denominator, they're
Speaker 2: just accepting human beings.
Speaker 4: It's so nice, especially because, like I don't know, I
Speaker 4: was explained to somebody the other day that there's a
Speaker 4: difference between like Hillary Burton the person and Hillary Burton
Speaker 4: the product because there's very much like a thing that
Speaker 4: has been bought and sold since I was eighteen years old,
Speaker 4: since you guys started working.
Speaker 2: And so when you have people that know the thing
Speaker 2: behind the.
Speaker 4: Product and they're really kind of like sensitive to it,
Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, I get messy. You can go dark here.
Speaker 2: You know, the people who can cut you don't care.
Speaker 2: If your house is a mess, you don't care. I've
Speaker 2: been taking hours three days like those people. You know,
Speaker 2: you know, if I've done something wrong, I want those people.
Speaker 2: I can come like, hey, I've done this terrible thing.
Speaker 2: Oh we love you anyway, you know.
Speaker 3: Just they're going to grab a shovel. Where did we
Speaker 3: bury it?
Speaker 2: Exactly? Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: We're just gonna bury all the bodies together.
Speaker 3: We need that. So all right, here we go. Well, then,
Speaker 3: on what occasion do you if you lie?
Speaker 5: She does?
Speaker 3: She lies? On what occasion do you lie?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so afraid to say this, like whisper. Every
Speaker 2: kid's growing up, every Christmas, every Easter, every time they
Speaker 2: lost a tooth, I lied, I see. Just in case
Speaker 2: anyone's watching.
Speaker 4: This, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I hear about it. To this day.
Speaker 3: They're mad about it.
Speaker 2: Emily is traumatized by the fact lied to her. No,
Speaker 2: you could have just told me the truth. We tell,
Speaker 2: you know, we tell the truth about these things. And wow, yeah.
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying. I am in that boat
Speaker 4: right now, Barbara.
Speaker 2: Okay, then let's not talk about it.
Speaker 4: And it's it's uh, you don't know whether you're being duped.
Speaker 4: I know, like I know if I'm being during by
Speaker 4: my thirteen year old.
Speaker 2: Oh you do, because when it's gone, it's so sad.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 4: I listen, I'll hold on till they're forty and I
Speaker 4: don't care.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's so much fun. And even to this day, Emily,
Speaker 2: especially for some reason, won't let me talk about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: don't no, even now. Oh wow, I love that kid.
Speaker 4: I love that she's holding your feet to the fire.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, I'm calling for well when he hears this segment, Hillary,
Speaker 2: no one hears this part of.
Speaker 4: The I'm not going to tell them, Okay, listen, I'm
Speaker 4: not telling them. This is between us and like a
Speaker 4: couple one hundred thousand people. But they are not going
Speaker 4: to tell the girls either. Okay, So we know you're
Speaker 4: going to continue doing that forever. But what is one
Speaker 4: thing you will never do again.
Speaker 2: I will never sell my house your dishonest lawyer ever again.
Speaker 2: And if you ever have to sell a house, make
Speaker 2: sure you know this person's background before you do. Jeez,
Speaker 2: And I will fill you guys in. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: the best advice I could ever give you.
Speaker 4: It's already such an emotional time when you sell a house,
Speaker 4: but it's just it's trauma no matter what you do,
Speaker 4: because moving is hard and the financial risks are scary.
Speaker 4: And so when you have someone that's been predatory in
Speaker 4: that situation, awful.
Speaker 2: After the fact, after she bought the house, what yeah, wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait, this is the lawyer that you used to
Speaker 3: sell a house or the person that.
Speaker 2: Bought happens to be a lawyer.
Speaker 3: Oh oh my.
Speaker 5: Gosh, boo has ooh bad karma her way scent, don't
Speaker 5: I'm uh yeah, I'll feel you.
Speaker 3: It's a big deal, though it's hard to know. It's
Speaker 3: you go into business with people in various ways, and
Speaker 3: it's hard to know. It's just hard to know. I've
Speaker 3: had I've definitely run into situations where people just rip
Speaker 3: you off and they you think they're one thing and
Speaker 3: they turn to be something else. It's awful.
Speaker 2: Never occurred to me, but it's a lesson learned, and
Speaker 2: I will teach that to everybody. Just you know, look
Speaker 2: into somebody's background before you, like you said, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you want to know some like sneaky
Speaker 4: things you can do, like poor Salt in their front
Speaker 4: yard and grass won't grow. I will.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for all of those ideas very much.
Speaker 3: Find barbering a cat suit in the middle of the
Speaker 3: night in their yard, just like dumping a huge bag
Speaker 3: of rock salt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like this plan.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's so good. All right. What's the strangest purchase
Speaker 3: you've ever made or almost made?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, there we go, there we go.
Speaker 3: You have to describe it for our listeners.
Speaker 2: Can you see him?
Speaker 3: And yes?
Speaker 2: And I did not name him, my kids did. His
Speaker 2: name is Antoine.
Speaker 4: She's got a big, old, big, old huge skeleton in
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 2: His name is Antoine. And we tried to get him
Speaker 2: three years in a row. He's from Home Depot. But Natalie,
Speaker 2: who's my big Halloween fan, well we all are, but hers,
Speaker 2: especially three years ago he came out and we couldn't
Speaker 2: get him because he sold out immediately. I had to
Speaker 2: get him. The next year sold out, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: like Easter time was sold out. And then this year
Speaker 2: she said, and I'm getting him this year, and it
Speaker 2: was a big night. We drove her a little Toyota
Speaker 2: to see if we could get him, and then we
Speaker 2: couldn't fit him in the car, and we had to
Speaker 2: take body parts his body by piece, like the little
Speaker 2: trips home, piece by piece because we couldn't fit him
Speaker 2: in the car. He's big, twelve feet high.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Gulliver's travels, like you guys with a
Speaker 4: little what are they called the little Putians carrying this big, huge,
Speaker 4: giant body.
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 4: I like that.
Speaker 2: You might leave him there year round. I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: but where.
Speaker 4: Are you going to put him the whole resident. You're
Speaker 4: gonna have to put Christmas decorations on him at some
Speaker 4: point to replace him.
Speaker 2: But he comes apart, so we'll.
Speaker 3: Everybody will just live with some bones.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you and all the goth girls from my
Speaker 4: high school that have the twelve foot skeleton from home Stories.
Speaker 4: I'm so proud of you. You're part of a very
Speaker 4: elite squad of goth girls. Oh, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 4: You meet your goth girlfriends, not even a little bit
Speaker 4: surprised though. You always had the best costumes at our
Speaker 4: Halloween party like you would show.
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, we have so many. If you guys ever
Speaker 2: need to borrow costumes, please because.
Speaker 3: I'm good to know.
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, Well, this question now we're gonna get fancy.
Speaker 4: Let's get serious, ladies. Who are your favorite writers?
Speaker 2: Kay? So, I was a theater major and I was
Speaker 2: a bit of a theater snob in college. So when
Speaker 2: you say writers, I mean I think immediately I think authors,
Speaker 2: But I was I was a theater snob, So I
Speaker 2: was always into play rights, you know. I was really
Speaker 2: into Pinter Tennessee Williams, all the classical play rights. But
Speaker 2: I kind of feel like when you say writers, I
Speaker 2: want to shout out the amazing WGA writers who don't
Speaker 2: get enough recognition, yeah, and support and attention. And I
Speaker 2: know you guys, through this little project that we did
Speaker 2: together for nine years, some of these amazing writers, I
Speaker 2: feel like they didn't get enough attention. And I am
Speaker 2: binging this little project that we did right now with
Speaker 2: my sixteen year old daughter, and I am constantly crying
Speaker 2: and so amazed by one of my favorite episodes, Jennifer
Speaker 2: Cecil wrote, Yeah, super talented and also one of my
Speaker 2: favorite writers, Stacy Rukeiser Yeah, and Michelle Ferty Goodman. And
Speaker 2: I have to say this was not a project we
Speaker 2: did together, but David E. Kelly is one of my
Speaker 2: favorite writers. Oh my gosh, yeah, that worked years and
Speaker 2: years and years ago, and he's so loyal to his actors,
Speaker 2: and then Natalie ended up working with him. And he's
Speaker 2: so brilliant and he infuses humor into everything he writes,
Speaker 2: and he's a little bit off and I've always been
Speaker 2: a fan of his and I hope I get to
Speaker 2: work with him again. But he's amazing. So let's shout
Speaker 2: out these WGA amazing talented writers.
Speaker 4: That's such a good answer. They literally are therapists for
Speaker 4: the entire country. Like they're the people who set our
Speaker 4: collective tone about, like, hey, what are we going to
Speaker 4: discuss in our national discourse?
Speaker 2: What feels good? What feels bad? You know, they're important
Speaker 2: ends of course, and it begins up there with them,
Speaker 2: And so yes, one of them.
Speaker 3: What's your greatest regret? You don't seem like someone who
Speaker 3: has regrets, but maybe you do.
Speaker 2: I regret getting addicted to chapstick. Yeah, very slow to
Speaker 2: have listened to my mother. Speaking of my mother, I wish,
Speaker 2: Oh we're getting so deep, but I regret. I had
Speaker 2: a great grandmother who lived to be almost one hundred.
Speaker 2: She just missed one hundred. She was ninety nine, and
Speaker 2: I wish And I know I was really young, but
Speaker 2: I wish that I had spent more time just talking,
Speaker 2: having deep conversations with her and my grandmother, who I
Speaker 2: loved and saw all the time, and you know, she
Speaker 2: would give me money and I would hug her and
Speaker 2: we would spend time together. But I'm talking about deep,
Speaker 2: deep conversations the older generation, how much you can learn
Speaker 2: and trust from the older generation. I just wish I
Speaker 2: had spent more time with my relatives who could have
Speaker 2: taught me so much. Yeah, I am teaching that to
Speaker 2: my girls. Call grandma, talk to her. Don't just say hi,
Speaker 2: don't you know, don't have small talk. Ask her about
Speaker 2: Oh can I tell you what I just did? Yes,
Speaker 2: this is so exciting. So my dad is not arounding more.
Speaker 2: My mother is. But they spent their honeymoon in a
Speaker 2: hotel in Chicago twenty years ago. So it was nineteen thirty.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it would have been there
Speaker 2: like their sixty fifth anniversary or something. They just had
Speaker 2: their anniversary and we were going through Chicago, and so
Speaker 2: my girls and I spent the night at the Drake
Speaker 2: Hotel in Chicago, and I told the owners of the
Speaker 2: Drake that we were going to be doing this, and
Speaker 2: they were thrilled. So I asked my mom about it,
Speaker 2: and she took out her scrap books and in her
Speaker 2: scrap book she had her stay at the Drake Hotel,
Speaker 2: which included match books, a little bits you're like a
Speaker 2: shoe cleaner, and the receipt for the hotel fourteen dollars
Speaker 2: and forty cents high. Roland says their honeymoon. This is
Speaker 2: where they spent their honeymoon. And we went around and
Speaker 2: took pictures and it was just it was amazing.
Speaker 3: That's cool.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 4: I saw one of your girls post all these like
Speaker 4: beautiful hotel pictures. It's like a beautiful classic hotel, right, yes.
Speaker 2: And when I when I posted as well, and then
Speaker 2: I started getting you know a lot of people chiming in,
Speaker 2: like that's where my parents been their a honeymoon and
Speaker 2: I had my wedding there and it was so great.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm talking about, knowing your parents, knowing
Speaker 2: your grandparents, knowing like really nothing to the past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes a difference.
Speaker 4: Barbara, that is such a good answer. Okay, talk to
Speaker 4: me about something that you really dislike.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have something called misophonia. Yes, so you don't
Speaker 2: have this joy.
Speaker 3: I think Paul has it for sure. But I have
Speaker 3: a very I think I have a very small because
Speaker 3: there are moments that I'm like, I can't function.
Speaker 2: But it starts small and it gets to be worse
Speaker 2: as you live life. But there are certain sounds. And
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about nails on a chalkboard whatever I
Speaker 2: can take that. I'm not talking about gum chewing. I
Speaker 2: can handle that. I'm talking about suits, little specific things
Speaker 2: that maybe nobody else would notice. And my kids know
Speaker 2: the look.
Speaker 3: When, yeah, you're trapped in your body.
Speaker 2: Anything plastic, like a plastic water bottle crunching. It's a
Speaker 2: neurological reaction that I have that I seriously could kill something.
Speaker 2: It's just so bad danger and self diagnosed. No one's
Speaker 2: ever told me I have this, but I looked it
Speaker 2: up and I definitely have this.
Speaker 4: What did we do before the internet? This is why
Speaker 4: so many women thought they were crazy before the internet,
Speaker 4: because they felt like they were alone in these situations.
Speaker 2: And now that we can connect, God blast, I love.
Speaker 2: What do you have? One trigger noise?
Speaker 3: Joy, It's more in its repetitive sounds, so it's a
Speaker 3: major Like I could listen to a water bottle get crinkled.
Speaker 3: But if there's some small, repetitive whether it's a beep,
Speaker 3: I cannot have ticking clocks anywhere in the home.
Speaker 2: Can you hear this?
Speaker 3: Yes? Like I could manage that for about twenty seconds,
Speaker 3: and then it would start to irritate me. But then
Speaker 3: if it was continual and random, like if it's on
Speaker 3: a if it's on a meter, I can last longer.
Speaker 3: But random clicks. And the funny thing is I usually
Speaker 3: don't notice it until my body is reacting and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what is happening to me? And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I can It's like a like a bat signal, and
Speaker 3: I just zero in on the sound and I'm like.
Speaker 2: Get it. You have it? Oh?
Speaker 4: I like, is it just your body producing ortisol or
Speaker 4: like adrenaline.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's therapy. I think you
Speaker 2: would have to, you know, I think they would probably
Speaker 2: immerse you in this sound until you got over it.
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's a war crime, Barbara. You will maybe
Speaker 4: you guys are like deficient in your magnesium magnesium.
Speaker 3: I went to a movie with Paul once and he
Speaker 3: was the person behind me was crinkling a candy wrapper
Speaker 3: and it took me a second. He was on it
Speaker 3: right away. He just kept looking over his shoulder and
Speaker 3: shuffling in his seat because I was like, well, it's
Speaker 3: your deal. He was like the candy wrapper. And as
Speaker 3: soon as he said it that, I was like, oh no.
Speaker 2: I have the look down to like on an airplane.
Speaker 2: I have the look. I'll do that. Well, they get it,
Speaker 2: I'll get it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The pretty ladies getting agitated over there, settled down, folks.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, So with Sophomia notwithstanding poor What is the
Speaker 3: greatest love of your life? Who accepts this? Avoue?
Speaker 2: Natalie, Emily, Olivia, They're the love. But I do need
Speaker 2: to do a little shout out to the first love
Speaker 2: of my life, who was Paul Weeks my high school boyfriend.
Speaker 2: By Paul, he went away to college. He was two
Speaker 2: years older than me, which was, you know, pretty extreme
Speaker 2: back in the day. But we would write each other
Speaker 2: letters twice a day. Who and if we didn't receive
Speaker 2: two letters in the mail, and so like maybe on
Speaker 2: Tuesday we might not because there was no mail on Sunday,
Speaker 2: so you know you anyway, we had it figured out,
Speaker 2: but we would get two letters a day and I
Speaker 2: still have all of these letters in bags. Saved ours
Speaker 2: and he taught me about love and romance and respect
Speaker 2: and we're still good friends. Everything after that. I mean,
Speaker 2: he set the standard, and I think it's so important,
Speaker 2: especially as my daughters are dating, Like the first one
Speaker 2: is so important, and I find myself comparing with and
Speaker 2: I told him that, like this is take it as
Speaker 2: a compliment, like everyone was compared to you because it
Speaker 2: was really perfect in high school. It was perfect.
Speaker 4: That does sound dreamy. I don't know if I ever
Speaker 4: liked anyone enough to write two letters a day, though, Barbara, Like,
Speaker 4: that's a big deal.
Speaker 2: I was in love, man, And that's why I also
Speaker 2: take their relationships very seriously. When some people say, oh,
Speaker 2: they'll get it. You know, she's sixteen. No, it's real.
Speaker 2: It's so real. Real, Yeah, so real, because I know
Speaker 2: mine were, because at my age I can still look
Speaker 2: back and say, no, it was real.
Speaker 4: Oh for sure. For sure, it's embar seen sometimes but
Speaker 4: very real. Oh all right, So then when and where
Speaker 4: were you happiest?
Speaker 2: I think I might have been the happiest I ever was,
Speaker 2: And hopefully there will be more happiness in the future.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I will never be this happy again.
Speaker 2: But when I was living in Wilmington, I had three
Speaker 2: little girls, two and then three, I had the best friends.
Speaker 2: I was working on a project that I loved so much,
Speaker 2: and I think it was the perfect yin and yang
Speaker 2: where I could be a mom, I could work, I
Speaker 2: could go back to being a mom, I could go
Speaker 2: back to work, I could bring my kids to my work,
Speaker 2: and it was just the perfect balance. And on top
Speaker 2: of that, I wasn't working five days a week. I
Speaker 2: was working maybe three days a week. And I love,
Speaker 2: you know, being a mom to little kids and living
Speaker 2: on the beach, and it was just it was perfect.
Speaker 4: It's nice when you can know in the moment, like
Speaker 4: I always felt like you. You exuded that happiness in
Speaker 4: the moment, right, and you made parenting seem like a blast. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was never like truly, Oh, I don't know my
Speaker 4: lines because I was off all night with the kids.
Speaker 4: You know, like you never ever played that card. You
Speaker 4: were just like everything is fun. But you, you guys
Speaker 4: are exactly like that girl.
Speaker 3: Thanks. We learned from the best.
Speaker 4: Oh well you trained us.
Speaker 2: It was it was already in your blood.
Speaker 3: So okay, here's the next question, which it's sort of
Speaker 3: like the earlier one, but it's slightly different. This one
Speaker 3: is which talent would you most like to have? So
Speaker 3: you might not be the best in the world at it,
Speaker 3: but it's just something that you really Yes, go.
Speaker 2: I wish that I would have the nerve and be
Speaker 2: good at being a stand up comic.
Speaker 4: Yes, Barbara, you could though. Oh, I.
Speaker 3: Could totally see that.
Speaker 2: I respect comedians so much. I respect improv actors. I
Speaker 2: could never. I would never. I couldn't be myself and
Speaker 2: be funny. I could be a character and be funny,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't be myself.
Speaker 4: Maybe I could be in characters too, Like everyone when
Speaker 4: they're doing stand up is like playing a version of
Speaker 4: doing stand up.
Speaker 2: You know. It's still like I would have to create
Speaker 2: a persona and go on the road as somebody else.
Speaker 2: I could never do it as myself.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's also a sexy idea. It's a great
Speaker 4: person Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, I love that. Yeah. You know, before I
Speaker 2: was married, before I had kids, I used to go
Speaker 2: to the Laugh Factory in the improv on Sensible by
Speaker 2: myself and just watch stand up I really respect it.
Speaker 2: And you know, some of those stand ups are not
Speaker 2: really happy people. It's kind of like when you actually
Speaker 2: meet them, they're very serious about their comedy. But I
Speaker 2: think if I could be really good at something and
Speaker 2: I could just like get the gene immediately, I wish
Speaker 2: I could be good at stand up.
Speaker 4: I think that this is a feasible future for sure.
Speaker 4: I think if you start just keeping a notebook of
Speaker 4: the shit that you think is funny, having a comedian
Speaker 4: that comes at it from a lighthearted approach, and just
Speaker 4: like everything is fun Like deb is so funny, not
Speaker 4: because the words on the paper were funny, but because
Speaker 4: you're funny.
Speaker 3: Agreed.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, if I can have a writer, if I
Speaker 2: can have somebody write the comedy for me, then maybe
Speaker 2: I need some like giving me a baseline and then
Speaker 2: I can go from there. I can add funny to.
Speaker 3: It in a writing partner. Yeah, that's possible.
Speaker 4: We're gonna this is happening done to dreams are happening
Speaker 4: here on drama Queen's. Okay, if you could change one
Speaker 4: thing about yourself, what would it be?
Speaker 2: Don't even have to think twice about this. I would
Speaker 2: stop worrying about everything. I worry. I worry, I worry,
Speaker 2: I worry. I do keep a pad and pen next
Speaker 2: to my bed. In the middle of the night, I
Speaker 2: wake up, I have a thought. I can't just I
Speaker 2: just can't drop it. I have to write it down,
Speaker 2: get it out of my brain, like my worry notes.
Speaker 2: And if I don't have anything to worry about, I
Speaker 2: will worry about your problems and your problems, my kid's problems,
Speaker 2: and my mom's problems. Like I cannot stop caring so much.
Speaker 2: And my daughter Natalie always says, just don't care so much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not easy for you to say, just don't care, don't care.
Speaker 2: You just can't turn it off, easy, turn it off.
Speaker 4: I worry about this also might be a magnesium deficiency symptom.
Speaker 2: Oh can you imagine if solved all of my problems?
Speaker 2: No one min Yeah, no for wrying.
Speaker 4: Yes, my best friend gave me a like mushroom tea
Speaker 4: instead of coffee because she was like, you're worked up,
Speaker 4: and you don't need caffeine. You need like these other things.
Speaker 4: And like, to be honest, I did feel calmer unless
Speaker 4: worked up. Could It's just brain chemistry, right, yeah, A.
Speaker 3: Lot of it? Yeah, all right, we're shipping you some magnesium.
Speaker 2: Gumbies magnesium and yeah, drugs, We've got this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Barbara, what do you consider to be your greatest achievement?
Speaker 2: Oh, my kids? Yeah, blah blah blah, like obviously.
Speaker 4: And blah blah blah. That's legitimate for.
Speaker 2: The answer to all my questions. But without a doubt,
Speaker 2: you know, it would be on my tombstone. This is
Speaker 2: my the thing that I will leave to the world
Speaker 2: my children. Nothing else even comes close.
Speaker 3: That's awesome.
Speaker 4: I love that they feel the same way about you,
Speaker 4: because you know, like I'm friendly with your daughters. I
Speaker 4: talk to them behind your back, and I, as a
Speaker 4: parent know like there's going to come a time where
Speaker 4: it's going to be probably pretty one sided where my
Speaker 4: kid cares more about their friends than they do about
Speaker 4: their dorky ol mom. The idea that you have raised
Speaker 4: these three kids in a brutal industry and they are
Speaker 4: as solid as they are and as talented and like
Speaker 4: well respected and well behaved and like you know, they're
Speaker 4: just they're so good, Barbara, in an environment that can
Speaker 4: oftentimes foster bad behavior. Yeah, and that is you, babe,
Speaker 4: And that you weren't so scary doing it that they
Speaker 4: still think you're like one, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: I had tunnel vision when it came you know, to
Speaker 2: raising them, which is why it was great to be
Speaker 2: working at the same time because it's sort of forced
Speaker 2: me not to have tunnel vision. Yeah, you know, after
Speaker 2: a project that we worked on together was over, I
Speaker 2: had more tunnel vision, which sort of, you know, I
Speaker 2: didn't see my friends as often as I would have liked.
Speaker 2: I didn't pursue my career as much as I maybe
Speaker 2: should have. And I'm not positive the tunnel vision was
Speaker 2: the right way to go, But when I look at
Speaker 2: the way they are now, it's sort of, you know,
Speaker 2: gives me some sort of verification that, yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2: It's good the way it worked out.
Speaker 4: How is dealing with other stage moms, Like, as my
Speaker 4: kids express interest in working, I'm like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, and I will kill anybody who ever calls me
Speaker 2: that because I want to be the opposite of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not a stage mom at all.
Speaker 4: At the local little performing arts center, I'm a stage
Speaker 4: I'm in there just like what is this costume? I'll
Speaker 4: do the hair and makeup.
Speaker 2: It's one thing because you know, I mean, you know
Speaker 2: better than everyone else. I just yeah, no, I've had
Speaker 2: I've had some experience with them, and I just stay away.
Speaker 2: We stay away as much as we can.
Speaker 4: You have a code word, safe word, Antelope, Antelope at
Speaker 4: three o'clock. All right, if you were to die and
Speaker 4: come back as a person or thing, what would you
Speaker 4: want that to be?
Speaker 2: I would come back as one of my girls. Dogs.
Speaker 2: Dogs get treated like royalty around here. They have home
Speaker 2: cooked meals, They sit on the couch, watch movies. We
Speaker 2: have like yoga time for them, and they listen to
Speaker 2: la seeing music. They you know, it's three of them,
Speaker 2: so they're all good friends. They always have their friends,
Speaker 2: you know, they go on vacations, they travel the world,
Speaker 2: and I really do believe they get treated better than
Speaker 2: I do. Come back, blasphemy, one of their dogs. That
Speaker 2: would be so amazing to die and come back as
Speaker 2: a dog that they own, and I could just like
Speaker 2: keep track of.
Speaker 3: Still still be on top of it.
Speaker 4: All. Oh my god, there's a movie in this for sure,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: Yes, right it. I love that, all right, Barbara, Do
Speaker 3: you have something in your life that's just so easy
Speaker 3: that you know this is where I think I know
Speaker 3: the answer to this too. But you just know this
Speaker 3: is where I belong. I'm so good at this or
Speaker 3: this particular field or space or what.
Speaker 2: I mean this space. I my daughters and I put
Speaker 2: a lot into this house and it was a very
Speaker 2: symbolic thing for me because when I was very young,
Speaker 2: I thought, Okay, I want to be an actress, and
Speaker 2: if I can ever buy a house from being an actress,
Speaker 2: like you know, with no other income, this would mean
Speaker 2: I'm done. That's what I you know, I can die now.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I want to die now, but
Speaker 2: this house is sort of that simple for me. But
Speaker 2: the fact that we put a lot of our heart
Speaker 2: and time and energy into renovating it, and we actually
Speaker 2: knocked down walls and you know, not just painted, but
Speaker 2: we did floors and countertops, and now it's just has
Speaker 2: our signature on it, and it just has our you know,
Speaker 2: blood and sweat and tears in it, and it just
Speaker 2: means so much more. And I've never done that with
Speaker 2: a house before, and it just I highly recommend it.
Speaker 2: You know, you can YouTube it and you can really
Speaker 2: do anything. Everywhere I go, there's just like a little
Speaker 2: reminder of this thing that we created together, and this
Speaker 2: is my place now I never want to leave.
Speaker 4: Oh well, Barbara. That leads us like right into the
Speaker 4: next question, which is where would you most like to live?
Speaker 2: Oh? Here, But if not here, and I'm not one
Speaker 2: of those East Coast people who you like, I hate
Speaker 2: living in CALIVRAI I love living in Los Angeles. I
Speaker 2: love living It's beautiful. I'm looking at a view right now,
Speaker 2: it's beautiful. I'm from Chicago. I miss it a lot,
Speaker 2: and I've just spent time there and for the first
Speaker 2: time I realized I could live in Chicago again. And
Speaker 2: I actually do miss the winters a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: age of seasons. And I still call Wilmington my home
Speaker 2: because for me it really felt like home raising my
Speaker 2: kids there. So I would choose here because of my
Speaker 2: house Chicago if my kids are there, or Wilmington if
Speaker 2: my kids are there.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, best of both worlds. Just get a
Speaker 4: vacation house in Wilmington that you can rent out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get one of those boats a little get a.
Speaker 4: Boat house boat. Yeah, I'm all for it.
Speaker 2: You're b and B and rented out to people like
Speaker 2: during conventions and yeah.
Speaker 3: So then the last question, which instantly I think we
Speaker 3: should move these around a little. I think we should
Speaker 3: end on a different question because it's a little bit
Speaker 3: of an it's a little anti climactic. But what is
Speaker 3: your most treasured possession?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 4: This could be very climactic.
Speaker 3: I guess that's true.
Speaker 4: What is your most valued possession? Is it this?
Speaker 2: Okay? I will try to make this lot anti climactic.
Speaker 2: Like the thing that you would grab in a fire, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the first thing I would grab. I'm a photo fanatic,
Speaker 2: and even these days where everyone has all their photos
Speaker 2: on their phone, I still print them and frame that
Speaker 2: and put them up. And I have an attic full
Speaker 2: of boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of pictures,
Speaker 2: and you guys are actually hanging up in my closet.
Speaker 2: I have my photo it of all of us, and
Speaker 2: I would grab my photo albums. They're my most treasure
Speaker 2: possessions because it's like from my birth all the way
Speaker 2: to now, and everything is just sort of, you know,
Speaker 2: accumulated in these little books. And you know, like on
Speaker 2: shows soap operas where somebody has a memory and they'll
Speaker 2: go to the picture and they'll trace it with their
Speaker 2: hands and they'll think back, and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: there's a flashback and then you come back and they're crying.
Speaker 2: Well I do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, oh I remember.
Speaker 2: This time and I and then I'll just like flip
Speaker 2: the pages and my finger will go to one point
Speaker 2: to it and that's like I do that. So my
Speaker 2: photo albums. I would grab my photo albums. They're my
Speaker 2: most treasured possessions. When I was moving from house, I
Speaker 2: made sure that those were put like in a separate
Speaker 2: storage so they were kept safe. Was that anti climactic?
Speaker 4: I don't know even No, it's so true.
Speaker 2: You know, you want to see a picture, go to
Speaker 2: your phone, like, it's not the same as having it
Speaker 2: there all the time.
Speaker 3: Well, and also, even though you could reprint things, there
Speaker 3: are a lot of photos that were taken before we
Speaker 3: had phones and there I have lots of books and
Speaker 3: bins of those two and you do, yeah, I do, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I don't have them all in frames, but yeah, there
Speaker 3: are times when I just want to go back and
Speaker 3: look and remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Best is when you find like writing on the back, oh,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I forgot, I forgot I wrote this, that's right.
Speaker 2: And my parents with their photo album it was my
Speaker 2: dad's handwriting, and he's not around anymore. And I know
Speaker 2: his handwriting, and just to see his handwriting makes you
Speaker 2: feel like he's really there.
Speaker 3: That connection to your family again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Barbara, we have so many good memories with and
Speaker 4: so I'm so happy that you came on today. And yeah,
Speaker 4: thing now everyone knows all of your deepest, darkest secrets,
Speaker 4: including the brown noise machine.
Speaker 2: You know, check with me because I'm going to talk
Speaker 2: of the magnesium with mushrooms when I get off the path,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let you know how it goes. Enjoy
Speaker 2: you do the same, because you will.
Speaker 4: It can't hurt.
Speaker 2: And if you travel together, you know that we can
Speaker 2: room together because we secret wife.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I love it. It's so great to see you always.
Speaker 2: I just love you. Okay, I will.
Speaker 4: She's having some wild adventure with her parents in Europe
Speaker 4: right now, and so she's doing the exact thing you've
Speaker 4: talked about all this episode, like really connecting with family
Speaker 4: and we value that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, baby, kiss those girls for us.
Speaker 2: We love you and them.
Speaker 3: Okay, bye bye, Barbara. Hey friends, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: Sorry we didn't get to bring in Sofa on this one,
Speaker 3: but we'll be here soon. And I'm so glad that
Speaker 3: you joined us with Barbara. She's such a class act
Speaker 3: and such an interesting person.
Speaker 2: Queen Man, you love Queen Barb.
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