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Speaker 1: The glory days of the Atlanta Housewives is gone.

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Speaker 2: It's over. It will never be what it was. Never.

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Speaker 1: Season nine is the last season where Atlanta Housewives was

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Speaker 1: in its glory days. Stay tuned, we'll get into my

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Reality with the King.

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Speaker 1: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 1: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality television.

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Speaker 1: With over ten years of production experience, I've executive produced

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Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. Additionally, I have created shows such as

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Speaker 2: Carlos King has the rain drops. So and it's r

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Speaker 2: So look, I am.

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Speaker 1: So excited about this episode because I get to chat

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Speaker 1: with one of my dear friends. Every once in a while,

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Speaker 1: or maybe once every blue moon, you meet somebody and

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Speaker 1: you just click and you hit it off, and it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like you two have known each other forever.

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Speaker 2: It's this weird connection.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a love connection, because I'm not Chuck Woolery,

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Speaker 1: but it was sort of like this is my brother

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Speaker 1: from another mother, because he and I speak the same language.

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Speaker 1: When I talk to him, we are literally on the

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Speaker 1: best selling author, He is a People magazine editor or contributor,

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Speaker 1: and he is one of my dearest friends in addition

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Speaker 1: to being a Housewives connoisseur. Yes, I'm talking about the

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Speaker 1: living legend Dave Quinn.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Carlos you have to add president of

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Speaker 3: the rain Drops Club, because now I would love to

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Speaker 3: lead that out because I'm your biggest fand and I

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Speaker 3: am so thrilled to be here and so proud of Listen. Listen.

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Speaker 3: You have been successful, You've done so much, and all

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Speaker 3: your shows continue to kill it. But this podcast is

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Speaker 3: such a joy, and I've been listening every week and

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Speaker 3: just so thrilled for all of your success. So I'm

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Speaker 3: honored to be here right now, really honored.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dave.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, I'm honored to be here with you. You are

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Speaker 1: one of my dearest friends. I love you so much

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Speaker 1: and I could not think of a better person to

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Speaker 1: kick off the season premiere of Atlanta Housewives than you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, And what a season this is already setting

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Speaker 3: up to be with some of the backstage drama, the

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Speaker 3: women doing their own photo shoots and their own promos.

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Speaker 3: What about that I'm living for it all.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's a gag based on everything that's

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Speaker 1: been happening in social media with people saying tons of things.

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Speaker 1: So to know that these Atlanta cast members spent their

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Speaker 1: own money to do their own photoshoot was very interesting.

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Speaker 2: But from what I was.

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Speaker 1: Told they did this without Bravo knowing about it, only

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Speaker 1: because they did not like the promo photo that Bravo

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Speaker 2: Is that what you heard too.

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Speaker 3: That's what I heard too. And honestly, the photo that

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it. I would love for this. I

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I think that they are all showing up

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Speaker 3: And I think you saw that in the premiere.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's get right into it.

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Speaker 1: I watched the premiere and drum brall, please, I liked it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's big.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the premiere episode. I thought it was a

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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy the season premiere of the Atlanta Housewives?

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Speaker 3: I did, and for me, it's all that first scene

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Speaker 3: up in I think it was Kenya's dance studio right,

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Speaker 3: I just love the energy of it all, and I

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure.

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Speaker 1: I thought the first scene was great. Listen, Kenya is

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Speaker 1: because she's a fantastic reality star. So to see her

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Speaker 3: Genius, genius, so fun, and then you know the Charat

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Speaker 3: Tita spill about this. I'm sure you know this, but

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Speaker 3: your audience may not know that. I heard through some

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Speaker 3: well placed sources that Charay literally signed her contract minutes

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Speaker 3: drove on over to that scene, got miked up, and

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Speaker 1: Oh no, listen, Charay needs to be on the show

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Speaker 1: for the rest of the history of Atlanta Housewives. Charay

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Speaker 1: But oh my gosh, you just draw some exclusive tea.

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Speaker 1: I did not note that Dave Quinn that Charay was

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Speaker 1: called and told your contract is good, go to work.

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Speaker 1: And that's why when she showed up, because I was like,

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Speaker 1: for this to be Charae's like entrance back into the show,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, my girl couldn't put on some heels, couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Wear a nice little cocktail dress. But now it all

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Speaker 2: makes sense.

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Speaker 3: And I have to say, one of my favorite conversations

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Speaker 3: you talked to me about when you came back to

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Speaker 3: the show. I believe it was season eight, correct, and

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Speaker 3: you brought Chara with you, and that was a big

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Speaker 3: thing for you that the second Charat entered into that party,

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Speaker 3: none of the women knew she was coming. And Kenya

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Speaker 3: saw her and immediately picked up the ball and started

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Speaker 3: running with it and started throwing those jabs. And that's

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Speaker 3: where we got the baseboards and you know, and all

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Speaker 3: of that house fighting. That is exactly what I saw

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Speaker 3: in this moment she walked in and you saw Kenya's

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Speaker 3: eye and then Kenya, you know, immediately the questions start coming,

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Speaker 3: what's going on with the guy you're dating? Is he

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Speaker 3: still in prison? And it's like she knew what to do.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I love about the Atlanta women because

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Speaker 3: and especially Kenya, they work, they know the job, and

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Speaker 3: they do their job.

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Speaker 1: No, Kenya is the uncredited executive producer of The Atlanta Housewives.

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Speaker 2: I will go on record saying it.

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Speaker 1: Kenya and Charae are the best producers on Atlanta Housewives

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Speaker 1: because when they are in a scene, they know what

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Speaker 1: entertaining and interesting. The rest of those women, no shade

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Speaker 1: to them. They need producing. They need someone to tell

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Speaker 1: them or should I say, remind them that you're on

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Speaker 1: a reality show.

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Speaker 3: Be real.

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Speaker 1: So Kenya and Charae are always frustrated because they feel like,

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Speaker 1: why are you bitches here not doing anything?

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Speaker 2: Like we all have to show up and show out.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's why when Marlow walked into that scene,

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Speaker 1: show the Real Marlowe of Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Because baby, this season, I.

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Speaker 1: Can tell you already from the first episode, this is

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Speaker 1: Marlow Hampton's season.

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Speaker 2: She is the.

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Speaker 1: Fourth multiplier that our mutual friend Dave Ebony K Williams coin.

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Speaker 1: This is Marlow's season period.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and going to work as an important part of

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Speaker 3: They're making things happen. Which is why, going back to Ebony,

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Speaker 3: seeing the discourse against her when I was like, why

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Speaker 3: do we have people like Luanne and Ramona, who are

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Speaker 3: what we're talking about. Give me something else to talk about, period,

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Speaker 3: Come on, give me reality. So I appreciate that this

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Speaker 3: is going to be you know, Marlow Hampton's Atlanta, and

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Speaker 3: we are all just living in it because she's doing

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Speaker 3: been on the show in the past.

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Speaker 1: Now, listen, Marlow has been on the show for ten

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Speaker 1: years and she finally has a peach is well deserved,

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Speaker 1: and I want to remind the Atlanta Housewife fans of

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Speaker 1: this the glory days of the Atlanta Housewives is gone.

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Speaker 2: It's over. It will never be what it was never.

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Speaker 1: Season nine is the last season where Atlanta Housewives was

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Speaker 1: in its glory days, and the season ten reunion is

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Speaker 1: the last reunion where the Atlanta Housewives were in their

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Speaker 1: glory days of a reunion. Now, when I say that,

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Speaker 1: that's not shade. What I'm saying to y'all is this,

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Speaker 1: we have to accept the fact that Atlanta house Wise

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Speaker 1: will never be what it once was. The heyday of

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Speaker 1: Nini Leaks. Like you said, even Cynthia Bailly, phasr Parks Porscha,

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Speaker 1: those days are gone. And what I remember, talk about

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Speaker 1: some exclusive t for you day because you pour one

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Speaker 1: of my cup let me.

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Speaker 2: Prot one on yours, honey.

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Speaker 1: So look, I told the producers season eleven because I

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Speaker 1: was asked to come back to produce Atlanta Housewives and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't make it work for business reasons. And what

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Speaker 1: Premiere absolutely and what the results also showed is Marlowe,

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Speaker 1: I'm with Kenya, it was botched like Terry Debro TV

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Speaker 2: Marlow I love you. That wasn't epic fail sis.

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Speaker 3: It was very Karen Huger. You know she's pulled those

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Speaker 2: And when I say that, this is what I mean.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to show a new Atlanta and those three

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Speaker 3: I can see that for sure, and especially with Drew.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's still in a bad place. It's not

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm a TLC biopic fan. And she killed the

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Speaker 3: She killed it. She killed it, and I think she's

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Speaker 2: I could not agree more.

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Speaker 1: I met Drew so Dora as Chara's fashion show.

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Speaker 2: Yes I attend it because I was invited.

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Speaker 3: The fashion show with fashions.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm not allowed to say what happened, but

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Speaker 1: But anyways, I walked up to Drew and I spoke

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Speaker 1: oh my god, Drew, I'm so sorry. I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: not mean, and I said, I know those girls, so

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Speaker 1: and we started to follow each other. But with that

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Speaker 1: I don't mind her being performative because I need it

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Speaker 2: Yes, But to your point with Drew, the jury is

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Speaker 3: I like her so much, and it's the thing is,

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Speaker 3: I struggled with her last season because the lobbyed criticism

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Speaker 3: It seemed like it was coming from her as a

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Speaker 3: ken you made a comment about her wigs. Did you

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Speaker 3: have you watched? I mean, the wigs improved after Keny

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Speaker 1: Of shampoo from Kenya. More haircare, hoodey and massage that scalp.

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Speaker 3: She's looking great except for the crescent. Everything is looking real.

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Speaker 3: that and the strawberry candy. Oh my god, the O

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Speaker 2: I live for it, the shady Bravo editor.

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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the Drew Sodora before and after picture.

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Speaker 3: Weight loss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it a weight loss because you're in

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Speaker 1: Or was the weight loss because you were also allegedly

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Speaker 2: What do you think? Dave?

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Speaker 3: It's very teddy Mellencamp all in, I'm I'm all in.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what the what the tea is? Like?

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Speaker 3: What is this all about? Now you're doing weight loss?

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Speaker 3: I think you know. I've thought about this, Carlos, of

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Speaker 3: starting like a housewives consultant firm, Like there are pageant consultants,

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Speaker 3: like I could be a Housewives consultant and they could

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Speaker 3: come to me and say, what do you think my

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Speaker 3: And this is one of those things with Drew. I

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Speaker 3: you know, Charay. If Charay had a workout business, that

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Speaker 3: make sense to me. I haven't seen enough of that

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Speaker 3: But this, this is it's.

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Speaker 1: Very I'm still about you messioning Teddy Mellicamp.

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Speaker 3: She has. It's not shady, it's just that's her job.

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Speaker 3: That's her business is the same business.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about one of my other favorite shady moments,

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Speaker 1: the fact that Marlowe alleged that Kenya Moore was driving

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Speaker 3: The layers of this were so incredible. The Marlowe Kenya

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Speaker 3: These women know how to throw shade towards one another

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Speaker 3: that cut real deep. And this is ridiculous as anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm completely here for it. I want the entire controversy

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Speaker 1: Yes, now I'm talking to Kenya in a few weeks

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Speaker 2: Need to know that.

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Speaker 1: But anyways, so one of the highlights of the episode

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that I want to tell Marlowe is,

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Speaker 3: And Kenya has sat back for years and years and

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Speaker 3: I would put her up in the maybe the top

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Speaker 3: She knows exactly what she's doing at all times. I'd

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Speaker 3: Probably these women know what they're doing. And I do

436
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 3: not think that she was going to give anything to

437
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: Marlow that Marlow didn't earn, and that was a case

438
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: that Marlow didn't earn it. Also, it's not like she

439
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: was the only one talking smack. Everybody said something, So

440
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 3: that gossip train is not going to play well back

441
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: when there's a camera catching everything you're saying.

442
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: Now now, and that was the thing. That's what I

443
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: was like, nice, try, Marlowe.

444
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: But I get it. This means a lot to you.

445
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 1: But my concern about Marla this season is I don't

446
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: want her to feel like she has to have a

447
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 1: moment every time a camera is on her. Because I

448
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: did enjoy the moment at home with her nephews. I

449
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: thought that was the beautiful moment that she had. And

450
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for marlow to win. But I did have

451
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: Scharai my podcast, and Charay did tell me marlow his

452
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: beloved belt this season, So I'm a little concerned about

453
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: my girl.

454
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: So but listen, it sounds like, based on listening to

455
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: that episode, it sounds like she goes after Candy and

456
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: they have some back and forth, and again, great, let's

457
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: bring it out of Candy. Candy's been coasting in a

458
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: lot of people's eyes for multiple seasons. I think Candy

459
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: brings a lot. I'm a big Candy fan. I went

460
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: to the restaurant and everything. I love the spinoff. But

461
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: I think that Candy, you know, knows how to play

462
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: when the when the ball is lobbied her way. So great,

463
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: let's step her up too.

464
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Now all the girls need to step up. But the

465
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: good news is you and I both agree that this

466
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: was a great season premiere. We're looking forward to seeing

467
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: more episodes and again, as of now, the show should

468
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: be called The Real Marlowe of Atlanta.

469
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: And I promise you one thing.

470
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: If I do not see Marlowe with an old white

471
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: man that she's dating, I'm going to be very disappointed.

472
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: It's a big Papa two point zero. I want to

473
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: see it. I want to know what's going on here. Yes,

474
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: I think that that's the mystery. We want to know

475
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: who she's dating, Carlos. We can't move on from this, though,

476
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: without talking about the new girl, because everyone's gonna think

477
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: you hate her if you don't talk about it.

478
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that shady.

479
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: We're not being shady. We're just talking about the ones

480
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: we know very well. But tell me what your thoughts

481
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 3: are on the newest houseway.

482
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 2: Listen, the jury still out.

483
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: She's very accomplished, and I'm happy for her accomplishments. I

484
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: will say this, her husband is the most attractive man

485
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: that has ever been on Atlanta Housewives. He is stunning,

486
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: and I apologize Peter Thomas because you know I love you.

487
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: Her man is so fine. He beats Wan Dixon to me. Apollo,

488
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: Naida Eddie Osofo, Saya got the best looking husband on

489
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: reality television.

490
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 3: She is very attractive, though, Evan Goldschneider with like a word.

491
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, day day no, no day No.

492
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm gaggy. You know what, keep talking, it may be

493
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: a time. Keep talking. Let me process that, Bob, you

494
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 2: drop because I'm gagging.

495
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 3: No, I think he's very attractive. I am excited to

496
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: see she's Jamaican, right, I'm excited to see a Jamaican housewife,

497
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: and you know, in the same way that I think

498
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 3: Wendy Doctor Wendy Esopho introduced us to kind of a

499
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 3: new culture within the commune and Potomac. I'm excited to

500
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: see what, you know, the Jamaican flavor brings to Atlanta.

501
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: No, I am too, I'm too, so I'm very intrigued

502
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: with that. But listen, I did say that Marlow, Drew

503
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: and Sonya are the future of the show, and I'm

504
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: curious to see how they're going to carry on for

505
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. Sonya gives me the new candy, accomplished,

506
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: hard worker, interesting family dynamic. So I think that I

507
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: think what Dusea Door is doing, I agree with you.

508
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I'm hopeful that she puts down the script and allows

509
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: herself to be seen more because I do think there's

510
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: something there.

511
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: I love Ralph.

512
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: I definitely think Ralph and Drew are giving me loving

513
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: marriage Atlanta with their historic marital problems. I'm not gonna

514
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: say that Ralph is a cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater allegedly.

515
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: But what I will say is if I was married

516
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: to Ralph, that man would never lea the because I

517
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: won't trust it.

518
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he definitely needs location services on at all times

519
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 3: on his phone. I need to know where he is.

520
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: I also would not trust it.

521
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: I need to know the password.

522
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: And no flights to Tampa ever, you're not allowed ever

523
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: in the in Tampa period.

524
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: And I need for social media if I haven't done

525
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: it yet, you know day that they're going to find

526
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: out who that woman was that offered wrapa massage because

527
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: when they were reading her hashtags on Instagram. You know,

528
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: these housewife fans are going to do a deep dive

529
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: with the hashtag and uncover this woman who offered a

530
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: married man a massage.

531
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 3: And then posted some like cryptic tweet about or equiptic

532
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 3: Instagram message about how like you know, I'll get whatever

533
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: I want sort of thing. Was that? What if I

534
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 3: read yeah no no no no no no no no

535
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: no no. If Carlos King were producing that season, I

536
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: have a feeling we would see that woman would be

537
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: brought in. Whether you liked it or not, she there,

538
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: She would be showing up, honey.

539
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: She would have showed up to Marlow's event if I

540
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: was producing.

541
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: It exactly and said right next to next to Kenya would.

542
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: As a surprise, who are you, I'm the masseuse.

543
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been. They would have gone to

544
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: a massage class and she would have been a teacher,

545
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: and then she would have casually brought it up. I mean, listen,

546
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: it writes itself. It's all right there.

547
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: We'll be right back after some quick ass.

548
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: This is reality with the cave. You and I talk

549
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: for hours. We can't do it on this podcast, but

550
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: I got to pick your brain on some new tea

551
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: that's brewing in Potomac.

552
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 3: Oh, yes, I love Photomac.

553
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: How do we feel about Ashley Darby filing for divorce

554
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: with Michael.

555
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, I think the fans feel like is

556
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: a long time coming. But there's lots of questions I'm

557
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: hearing surrounding it. You know, is this something that she's

558
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 3: doing just for the show because he didn't want to film?

559
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: Is this something that and that would explain why he

560
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: didn't want to film?

561
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: So wait, hold on, is Michael not filming this season?

562
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 3: I have heard that Michael is not filming this season,

563
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,239
Speaker 3: so this is a question, right, did she do that?

564
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 3: There was rumors that she tried to buy a house

565
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 3: with Michael before they went public with their split, So

566
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: what's that about. I mean, there's lots of questions everything

567
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 3: with Ashley and Michael. For the entire time they've been

568
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 3: on the show, there's been questions about what's really going

569
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: on behind the scenes. I think Ashley Darby is a

570
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: phenomenal housewife. I think she knows how to deliver great

571
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: television and I would love to see the liberation of

572
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: Ashley Darby away from somebody who's not making her happy.

573
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, all I care about

574
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 3: is her happiness. But I do like that there's a

575
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: big cloud of question around it all because it just

576
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: makes it that much more interesting to watch.

577
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: You always have the team Dave.

578
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Exclusively heard here for the first time, allegedly, Michael

579
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: Darby has not been filming this current season of The

580
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Potomac Housewives.

581
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

582
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, listen, we all want to know

583
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: what he's up to too.

584
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: But oh, I think we know what he's up to. Honey,

585
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: those fans will find out.

586
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: I think we know what he's up to, what he's into,

587
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: what he's behind, what he's been in. I think we

588
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: know a lot about Michael Darby is doing.

589
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: Child. I don't think we don't know.

590
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: I love Potomac I can't wait for it to come back,

591
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: and I've heard other things about this season. It's pretty intense.

592
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: Did you hear what I heard about Gisell and Candas

593
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: and Chris Bassett.

594
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: I sure have.

595
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: Now tell me if I'm wrong, and I'm sure you

596
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: heard more than I have. I heard gizel Is allegedly

597
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: accusing Chris Bassett of being inappropriate to the women on

598
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: the show.

599
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't that be completely shocking to you? I

600
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 3: feel like we have watched Chris Bassett on every season

601
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: of the show be the voice of reason. I love them,

602
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: the calm one. He has done nothing but stand beside

603
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: his wife, even when most people, I think, feel like

604
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: she didn't deserve to have someone standing by him. He

605
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: has been there. I think he is a loyal, loving person.

606
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: So if that accusation is lobbied, that would be really

607
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 3: shocking to me and kind of makes me wonder how

608
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: because that is just so not Chris.

609
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 2: Did you hear that too, I've heard rumors.

610
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Of those similar things. Yes, And it's confusing to me.

611
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: And you know, I love Gazelle. We both talked about

612
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: how much we love Jazelle and what a great housewife

613
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: she is. But I do wonder whether she's been mistreated

614
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 3: by men for so long that she is confusing kindness

615
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: with malice.

616
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: That's interesting, Okay, I don't know.

617
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: I mean again, I'm not in this. I don't know

618
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: all the details, but just hearing that from what you

619
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: and I are talking about right now, that seems confusing

620
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 3: to me that Chris would ever do something like that.

621
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: Then again, I believe women, so I want to be

622
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: supportive of all.

623
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, and listen, I'm with you in terms

624
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: of I think Chris Bassett is such a great guy.

625
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: I think it's so out of.

626
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: Character for him to be anything but respectful to everybody.

627
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: And if that is.

628
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: What is happening on this season of Atomac Housewife, now

629
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: I understand why Candace Dillard has unfollowed Gazelle.

630
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something.

631
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: If I'm getting a Candace versus Jazelle Bryant this season,

632
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: oh honey, sign me up and inject this season in

633
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: my vein Kandace versus Joselle to.

634
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: Talk about two titans of reality TV. That would be

635
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: incredible television. And I'd be curious to see where someone

636
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: like Robin falls on all of this, because while many

637
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 3: people believe that she is traditionally on Giselle's side all

638
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: the time, do you think she would be in this case?

639
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 3: I don't know.

640
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

641
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: Well, she is supposed to be the reasonable one out

642
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: of the reasonable shady click, so we shall see with that.

643
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: But I definitely need to see more Wan Dixon this season.

644
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: And the only other thing I heard about Potomac this

645
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: season is the fact that Candace may only have one friend.

646
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: And that's when.

647
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: I heard that Cana and Karen had a moment and

648
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: it seems to be that Candace may I don't know,

649
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: be navigating some troubled waters with the friendship this season.

650
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 3: Well, you know, the beauty of these Housewives shows are

651
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 3: all about, you know, shifting dynamics and frank groups and

652
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 3: reconciliation and finding ways forward. So I believe they'll find

653
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: their way through it if that's happening. But I root

654
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 3: for Candace in a way.

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Speaker 2: I love Candace.

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Speaker 3: She's an activator, She's good TV in that sense. And

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Speaker 3: I've also heard that there may be a blast from

658
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Speaker 3: the past making some appearances. And Cha or Katie, well

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Speaker 3: we've seen that both of them were at a party. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that so both of them. But I was thinking

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Speaker 3: another blast from the past. I've heard that there's a

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Speaker 3: that there's somebody from the Housewives universe who may be

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Speaker 3: lurking around and we may see.

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Speaker 2: From not a Potomac housewife.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say nothing else beyond that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wait before I let you go, how are my

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Speaker 1: Dallas housewive girls doing?

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Speaker 2: Because I know you keep in touch with them.

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Speaker 3: They're doing well. Yeah, the girls are all good. You

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Speaker 3: miss Dallas or you said it got the acts.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think I've shared this story with the world,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if I said this to you day,

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Speaker 1: but although you united, say a lot to each other

674
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Speaker 1: and we tell each other everything. I was asked to

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Speaker 1: be the executive producer of the Dallas Housewives.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: What yes? Exclusive?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Carlos Sweet. So this was for season A,

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Speaker 3: possible season five or from the beginning.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So season one of Dallas Housewives aired.

682
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: I watched it and I.

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Speaker 1: Was like, hmm, there's something missing about this show. There's

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00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: something missing. It was evident that the breakout star was

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Speaker 1: Line Lockin. I mean, anybody with eyeboss can see that, correct,

686
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Speaker 1: But I always felt like, Okay, somebody's missing. I was

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00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: approached to executive produce season two of Dallas Housewives. I

688
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: was approached by high level executives to take over the show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, by a man that I called the white Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: He was a part of the conversation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, continue, okay.

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, why not, I'll do it, I said,

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Speaker 1: but if I do it, I would have to have

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Speaker 1: my company be a part of it. If I do it,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it as like a freelancer.

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Speaker 1: Those days are gone. Long story short. Unfortunately, the producer

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Speaker 1: of the company or the owner whatever wasn't feeling it,

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Speaker 1: like I got to share this company title with Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: That ain't happening. So the conversation ended there. And I

700
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Speaker 1: wanted to do it because I saw the potential in

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Speaker 1: that franchise, and because I had success with Atlanta, success

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Speaker 1: success with New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to like turn Dallas out.

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Speaker 1: I was actually like a little bit excited with the

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Speaker 1: possibility of taking over Dallas. But it did not work out.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sad to see it not be around. But

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Speaker 1: I will say this, if it was ever to come back,

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Speaker 1: I would be open to the conversation again. But my

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Speaker 1: question to you, Dave Quinn, is do you think Dallas

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Speaker 1: would ever come back?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, my head is really exploding at the idea

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00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 3: of you doing that and up you know, of course,

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Speaker 3: I'm frustrated that you did not tell me this when

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Speaker 3: I was writing the book. That would have been such

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00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: a good nugget to put in there. But you know,

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00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: it's very interesting because if you read that chapter, we

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00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: talk about the producer rich By from Goodbye Pictures, who

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00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 3: had not had experience working with housewives before. He had

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Speaker 3: done a ton of other things for Bravo, and he's

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Speaker 3: an incredible producer and has done incredible shows. But yes,

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Speaker 3: this is a different beat and the show didn't start

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Speaker 3: as a housewives show, as many shows that are in

723
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: development happened, you know, start in a different direction, and

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Speaker 3: it kind of turned into a housewife show, and learning

725
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 3: how to kind of edit for that was challenging for him.

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00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: And I think that cast ran away and ran kind

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00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: of all over them. I don't think that. So when

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Speaker 3: you ask about it wanting to come back, I don't

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00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: see it coming back because I think that cast really

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00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: lost themselves. The number one piece of advice that I

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Speaker 3: give to housewives when I meet them when they're brand

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Speaker 3: new housewives, and I just did this with I met

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Speaker 3: a bunch of the Dubai ladies when they were here

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Speaker 3: in New York, and I pulled them aside and I

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00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: give them my three or four things that I think

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Speaker 3: they need to know before they enter into this journey

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Speaker 3: of the show airing, And I say, you have to

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Speaker 3: work as a cast. This is a marathon, not a sprint.

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Speaker 3: It is something you want four or five, six, seasons

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Speaker 3: on the show. You don't want to be isolating people,

741
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: pushing them out, refusing to film with anyone. That's why

742
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 3: I think Potomac is so successful because Giselle and Karen

743
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: oil and water, but they understand the importance of the

744
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 3: other and they never say I'm not filming with her.

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Speaker 3: It's why I'm glad that Porcha's not around this season,

746
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: because I know how difficult it was for her to

747
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: film with Kenya, and I think it really as a viewer,

748
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 3: it really we felt it because there wasn't a connection

749
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 3: there and it wasn't fun for us as viewers to

750
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 3: see them isolating each or her really isolating Kenya, not

751
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: wanting to be around her and not engaging. So again,

752
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: you have to work as a team, and I don't

753
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: think the Dallas women towards the end knew really how

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00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: to work, or even from the beginning knew how to

755
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: work as a team. So if it comes back, it

756
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: can't be with those women. I would if I were you,

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00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 3: give me the Real Housewives of Houston.

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00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: Please, Yes, I would love to do a real housebosor

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00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: of Houston.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of ideas about that.

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Speaker 1: I'll call you separately so we can discuss it, because

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Speaker 1: you know.

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00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: I am ready for it. There is not a single

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00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 3: Housewives franchise on Bravo right now produced by a black

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Speaker 3: owned production company, and I would really love to see

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Speaker 3: that shift, And I know somebody who would be great

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00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 3: at it. So give it to us. Carlos. As busy as.

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Speaker 1: I am, I have time to produce television because I

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Speaker 1: love what I do, and I have said it on

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Speaker 1: the record, I think it would be such a great

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00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: success story for the network to say that the first

772
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Speaker 1: black guy to executive produce the Real Housewives franchise and

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Speaker 1: to have that franchise be Atlanta, for me to break

774
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Speaker 1: records on my first season being the EP on the show,

775
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: to have created a franchise on the Oprah Winfrey Network

776
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: called Love and Marriage, to have Monique Samuel's anchor the

777
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Love and Marriage DC show. Why wouldn't you say, like

778
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: it would be a great story we gave Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: a black owned production company a housewife show.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's about damn time. Yeah, I'm all for it.

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00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: And then you can hire a white guy like me

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00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 3: to work for you, and.

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Speaker 1: I totally would And listen already said this to you,

784
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: and I will go on the record saying this. I

785
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: said it to you in private, I'll say it publicly.

786
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: When I have my first book. You're writing it like

787
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 1: you you've already hired.

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Speaker 3: I'm down. I can't wait. That will be an absolute joy.

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00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: It'll write itself. It's your soul, verboth said. All I

790
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: have to do is transcribe.

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00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: Oh yes, honey, because I have a life that needs

792
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 2: to be shared.

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00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm here to watch it all and listen

794
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 3: to it all. Thank you so much for having me.

795
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: I mean, listen. We could talk for another two hours.

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: You know we can, But promise me you'll come back on.

797
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: The podcast anytime so that we can talk about other stuff,

798
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: because we again, there's so much more in store on

799
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: this podcast that I need to pick your brain on

800
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: something else.

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00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: I'm always on the other end of the phone when

802
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 3: Carlos can calls.

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00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: So Dave, let the world know where they can find you,

804
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: follow you, you, what've been up to, Where they can

805
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: buy your New York Times best selling book and all

806
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: those great things.

807
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so the book Not All Diamonds and Rose

808
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: is for sale everywhere books are sold, and uh, and

809
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 3: the audiobook is out with Amy Phillips, who we all

810
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: know and love doing a lot of the accents. So

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00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: if you guys are Audio Bok fans, she's the best,

812
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: definitely pick that up. And then I'm on social media.

813
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm on Instagram and Twitter at nine Daves and I

814
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: share a lot of my writing there. I work for

815
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 3: People Magazine and Entertainment Weekly and a bunch of other spots.

816
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: I may have a podcast on my own that I'm

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00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: working on. Yeah, it will not be anything like this.

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00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 3: I can't top anything like this. Please into totally different.

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00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 3: I'm going in a totally different direction, but I want

820
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 3: to offer something that housewise fans don't have right now

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00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 3: in the pantheon of podcasts. So a little teaser there.

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Speaker 1: Well, we are going to follow like, subscribe, review and

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Speaker 1: everything else.

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Speaker 3: I will love you, love you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, thank.

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Speaker 1: You, foxx Opinions. Email me at Reality with the King

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Speaker 1: Henley Brown. We are also produced by Sierra Spragley, Rix

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