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Speaker 1: the news booth. And of course, the overwhelming big story

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Speaker 1: ninety four. The announcement made last nights and we don't

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Speaker 1: And it's a sad day but also a day of

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Speaker 1: I just i didn't have any idea that all this

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Speaker 1: would happen. I'm so appreciative our customer base. They've been

430
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: really supportive and really kind, and I'm getting calls from

431
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: people I don't know. They don't know me from all

432
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: over the country. I just don't expect anything like that.

433
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: You know. It's just really incredible, and I really appreciate it.

434
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 1: As far as the political aspect, I've been in business

435
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: quite a while, and these people that are doing some

436
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: of what they're doing now, it's just hard to imagine

437
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: whatever their motivation can be because they don't really have

438
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: a clue what's going on. They don't they've probably never

439
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: been in a circumstance like that. They I don't think

440
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: they would. I don't think they could do what I

441
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: do and a lot of other people like me do.

442
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: And if it doesn't change, I mean, we're just it's

443
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: just getting worse and worse. I had a guy one

444
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: time that I had taken into custody. I had am

445
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Speaker 1: handcuffed and down on the ground. If the chriffs can

446
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 1: take him off my hand. He was a burgler, right,

447
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: I apprehended him. He was a bad guy. Here. We

448
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: get to talking and I was asking me, why do

449
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: you do this? And I never forget he told me.

450
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: He says, I'm a burglar. That's my job. He viewed

451
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 1: it as a job. When he said I got up.

452
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I get up when it gets dark and I go

453
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: burglers places and that's my job. Well, if he views

454
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: it as his job, I don't see what's going to

455
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: change that except lock him up and maybe he'll have

456
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: time to figure it out time he gets out. But

457
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: if we don't make some changes, things are going to

458
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: get continually worse. If I haven't inspired anybody, you know,

459
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: think a little different, it'd be great, because we got

460
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: a mess in here and it's got to be changed. Yeah,

461
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you were aware of the situation with

462
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: those seven eleven robberies that occurred a few weeks back.

463
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Speaker 1: A couple of people were old there was a couple

464
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: of robbers from from LA that were driving around even

465
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Speaker 1: out in your parts, out towards Riverside. And yeah, one

466
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: of the one of the stores I got it was

467
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: just probably six maybe seven miles from from my store,

468
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Speaker 1: So I was very alert for them guys too, and

469
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately for for them and me, they didn't

470
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: pick my store. But those are the kind of people

471
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: who just should not be out running around on the

472
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Speaker 1: street because they don't apparently have any concern for anybody's

473
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: life or future but their own. They want what they

474
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: want for whatever their reason, and they're just willing to

475
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 1: take it from people that work hard, so they need

476
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: to be stopped. And I'm just not for me personally,

477
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: there was absolutely no doubt in my mind what was

478
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Speaker 1: going to happen. What was happening. The guy pointed again

479
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Speaker 1: directly at me. And you know, if it's an a

480
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Speaker 1: R fifteen type, it's a semi automatic gun. If somebody's

481
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: messed with as they can make it fully automatic, I'm

482
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Speaker 1: out gun. But when he points a gun and direct

483
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Speaker 1: at me, I don't hesitate the whole thing that from

484
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: that point on there was maybe a half to three

485
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: quarters or a second. That's it. So the whole thing

486
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 1: was over in two three seconds from the time they

487
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: first actually entered the store. Did you consider for a

488
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: moment that the others might try to come back in

489
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: an exact revenge or finish off the robbery. Did you

490
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: consider that at all? Or the whole thing was over

491
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: so fast and they fled that you were just done

492
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Speaker 1: with it. Where they were, there were so many Shares

493
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: officers around, they were not coming back. We're right at

494
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: that point, and I did whole off to the hospital.

495
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: So I'm out of commission for a day, and it wasn't.

496
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that you weren't coming back, and

497
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: it's not likely somebody else is going to be back.

498
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: It'll blow over a year from now, most of them.

499
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: There will be new people who take their ice if

500
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: we don't change some of the way we're the politicians

501
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: are doing things. Thereby somebody takes a price. It always

502
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: works that way. But I didn't have any concern about them,

503
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: particularly coming back. I try to make it a a little

504
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: lea here from my employees, but people get all kinds

505
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: of crazy ideas and yeah, but it could happen, you know,

506
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: so I'm still ready. Well, like you said, consequences are minimal.

507
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: These days, we don't have bail. We have DA's that

508
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: decide that people have to go to some sort of

509
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: diversion program. We got a DA here, and you're probably

510
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: have followed this, Craig. I know you live out in

511
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Riverside County, but a DA here that doesn't even believe

512
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: in gun enhancements in sentencing. You look at that guy

513
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: that came into your your liquor store the other night

514
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: with that weapon. I mean, honestly, you're not going to

515
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: add any enhancements to the sentence. Do you do you

516
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: have any interest in how this if this guy recovers,

517
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned there was one guy you had cuffed

518
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: and you were talking to him, a robber from some

519
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: years back. This particular man is in the hospital, apparently

520
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: still being treated for his wounds. Do you do you

521
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: have any interest in seeing how he's doing? Not first

522
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: on the list, I mean, hopefully he'll learn something from it.

523
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: And I would assume that they're all going to do

524
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: some time and they'll have some time to think about it.

525
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: Maybe they'll learn something, will straighten out even when they

526
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: get out. But he's not first on the list at

527
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Speaker 1: this point. No. Is it true that the surveillance system

528
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 1: you hadn't installed just this year? Was it? Yeah? Actually

529
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: just out of a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. Wow,

530
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: And it's because you realized that this was happening more

531
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: and more and you wanted to be ready. Yeah, pretty well,

532
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: there's a factor. Yeah. And what about the shotgun? I

533
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: guess is what you use? Yeah, and you do any

534
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: practicing with that? I mean obviously you live in a

535
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: place where I think you said to one reporter they

536
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: didn't do their homework because out here a lot of

537
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: us have guns. Well in the city in Norcu is

538
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: a relatively small city, it's a conservative city. There's a

539
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: whole lot of people would do what I've done if

540
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: they were in my shoes, and it's not a good

541
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: place for the bad guys to come in and do

542
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: what these guys were trying to do. Probably didn't do

543
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: their homework, I don't know, but it's not the best

544
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: place for them to be coming because I have a

545
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: lot of customers. I mean, before this happened, a lot

546
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: of customers. Now, if you ever problem, you know, ten

547
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: seconds away, just call me. So they're supportive and try

548
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: to take care of each other, and that's a yeah.

549
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: Is there any but any blowback at all hearing anything

550
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: negative about what happened? No, No, this whole thing is

551
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: kind of overwhelming. Really. It's we've had no negative comments

552
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: that I'm aware of. People that actually local people that

553
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: maybe they weren't customers of my store have come in

554
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: and you know, they just shake your hand, all positive comments.

555
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: So it's I guess it. You know, you think on

556
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: one handle or something like this shouldn't happm but it

557
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: was going to It worked out pretty good. Our sheriff,

558
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: who am supportive of he took time to call me,

559
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: send me at tax and call me and basically he

560
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: said no, he did a damn fine job and made

561
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: it easy for us to do ours. So you know,

562
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: they're all in custody and off the streets and hopefully

563
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: they'll remain there for the foreseeable future. And we're also

564
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: be having to face that group grank. You're not a

565
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: young man working three am on a Sunday morning. Is

566
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: that something you ordinarily do? Yeah? Yeah, I know, it's

567
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: your own business, and I guess sometimes you have to

568
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: if you don't have to help, but mine working on

569
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: it because that's a dangerous time obviously for something like

570
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: a liquor store. Yeah, that's what they say. It's it's

571
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: just there's an awful lot of work to be done

572
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: to run the business. And sometimes when we're officially not open,

573
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: but you get local people, ain't milk or dog rooter

574
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: or mouse trappers them and I'm gonna if they want

575
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: to come in in the shop, I'm gonna let them shop.

576
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: We can't sell alcohol, for instance, from two to six,

577
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: but anything else helps helps the business, help them. We'll

578
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: be there and I'm very alertius to who comes in

579
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: the door, and I get a lot of work done

580
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: at that time. Clearly you are aware of who comes

581
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: in the door, and you were ready. Well, Craig, thanks

582
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 1: so much for talking to me. I really appreciate it,

583
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: and I wish you well. And you know, people are

584
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: calling you a hero. Maybe you're not comfortable with that,

585
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: but in this day and age, the way things are going,

586
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: as you talked about in the criminal justice system, people

587
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: are very appreciative to somebody that just stands his ground

588
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: and that's what he has to do. I think I

589
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: was aware of. Wouldn't nothing to disagree that I am now.

590
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: And it's like I said, it's just amazing. We get

591
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: calls from literally all of the country, even somebody from Canada.

592
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: It's calling. Everybody wants to do an interview, and I'm

593
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: sure it'll blow over in a couple of weeks, but

594
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's just kind of amazing the whole thing. Really,

595
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I just did what I needed to do to stay alive.

596
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let somebody like that makes a choice

597
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: with her I've ever die. If I can control it,

598
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to take control it and turn the tables

599
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 1: on him. All right, Craig, thanks a lot for talking

600
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: to me. Have a good day. You're welcome. Thanks. That's

601
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: Craig Coope, the owner of Norco Market in Liquor in

602
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: Norco and again the big story. Early Sunday morning, robbers

603
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: pulled up in the parking lot outside his store. He

604
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: got an eye on them, who thought something was not right.

605
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: And then one comes in with what appears to be

606
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: a pretty fearsome weapon, as they called it, a long gun,

607
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: maybe an a R fifteen. And that's when Craig decided

608
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm not waiting and he fired off his shotgun and

609
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: he wound to debt suspect who ran off screaming, and

610
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: he shot my arm off and they all were arrested

611
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: at a hospital. Some time later, John and Ken Show

612
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: on kf I Am six forty we go to the

613
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: KFI twenty four hour, a new center for an update

614
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: from Debra Mark. We've just had a long conversation with

615
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: mister Craig Coope. He's the man that wasn't going to

616
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: stand for his liquor store being robbed in Norcope. So

617
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: when a guy with a gun came in in a

618
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: matter of seconds he fired off his shotgun wounded that

619
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: guy who was on the run. If you missed it,

620
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: I'm going to play it later on in the show

621
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Speaker 1: during the five o'clock hour. Back in the real world, well,

622
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: we're also continuing to do tribute to Vince Gully, a

623
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: long time Dodger broadcaster who passed away at the age

624
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: of ninety four. The announcement made last night. We'll be

625
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: talking to Rick Monday, a Dodger player and of course

626
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: currently a Dodger broadcaster in the four o'clock hour when

627
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: we come back. As I was just started to say,

628
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 1: in the real world, there is a bill on Gavinussem's desk.

629
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Speaker 1: It's called SB fifty seven. And this is from the

630
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: crowd that gives up right, the Wokesters, whatever you want

631
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: to call them. It's the crowd that says housing first

632
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: for the homeless, now enforcement. This subject of this is

633
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: drug use and drug addicts. And the bill would allow

634
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: get this for us to run these open air drug

635
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: injection sites around the state. They picked a few places.

636
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles is one of them. The viewpoint from this

637
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: crowd that supports this bill is that, oh, well, you know,

638
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: they're addicts. There's nothing that can be done. They're going

639
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: to stop using on their own, if they ever stop using.

640
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, let's just make sure they don't

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