1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Lava for Good and Stand Together Music Present The War 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: on Drugs Podcast Season two. This season, we're diving deeper 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: into the real stories behind the War on drugs, its impact, 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: its failures, and the people offering a better path forward. 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: All right, welcome to season two The War on Drugs. 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, we're back at it, Greig English. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Yes, man, we've been traveling quite a bit. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been going independently and together. 9 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, to do some of these interviews. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, a lot of what this season's going 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: to be. You know, last year we are much more 12 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: in the studio kind of setting that basis. 13 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: For what the War on Drugs was and what we think. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: And I think you summarize it so well when you 15 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: said that term, just like, it's not war on drugs, 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: it's a war on people. 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 3: Right. 18 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: The first season we kind of focused on the war 19 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: side of it, in the drug side of it and 20 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 4: the policy side of it, and of course we had, 21 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 4: you know, actual people who are affected by this. But 22 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: I think we lean a lot more into the people 23 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: with this season. 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Their trials, their tribulations, them going through their own war 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: on drugs, either through the criminal justice system, the healthcare system. 26 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: It's musicians, it's athletes. 27 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: It's just a wide swath of people and really interesting 28 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: folks that you're going to hear a side of them 29 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: that you probably didn't know about before. Yeah, we kind 30 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: of want to bring that after all the doom and 31 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: fucking gloomy brought. 32 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 4: To Yeah, with the war on rugs, it's hard to 33 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: avoid the impact it has, and you know that's a part. 34 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: Of it, you know. 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: You know, we talked to Liz Carmuch. She was a 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: veteran MMA fighter, just stone cold assassin. 37 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Her nickname is Yeah, she was, she was amazing. 38 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and she uses CBD as part of her recovery process. 39 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Right. 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: She was explaining how it helps with inflammation. 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: And that is illegal in some places, like hemp is illegal. 42 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: Uh still and yeah, and I remember last time we 43 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: were talking about how the reclassification of the scheduling of 44 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: marijuana would kind of open up more things that we 45 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: could kind of see what would work in these places. 46 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 4: Nobody's really taking what they're learning from the state, each 47 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: individual state and applying it to the federal level. 48 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 3: How do you think that would change? 49 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of this thing where they both 50 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: work off each other, Right, So, for those who don't know, 51 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: if the federal government still classifies cannabis as a Schedule 52 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: one drug, which means it is the highest level of scheduling. 53 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: It is the same with coke, is. 54 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Actually now right, yeah, which is yeah, it's amazing. 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: So it's nothing. 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 4: Unless you do cocaine. Maybe you think it's right where 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: it needs. 58 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: Ye yeah, yeah that's fair. Yeah, that's that looks about right. 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, fair enough, good job, right, But. 60 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so cannabis is scheduled there with heroin. 61 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: It says it has no medical value and it is 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: a highly likely to you know, for abuse, and so 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: that's what it says. And so there has been a 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: big effort at the federal level to deschedule completely where 65 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: the Feds would just almost like alcohol is where they 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: would regulate it, but on like the food side to 67 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: make sure there's lot poison, not like you know, on 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: the other end of like criminalizing it, just regulation. But 69 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: what they're going to do is what the government does 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: all the time is like try to hit this middle 71 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: road of rescheduling it, make it schedule three. Schedule three 72 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: is a lot of like you know, it's if you 73 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: get cough medicine with coding, you know, you need a 74 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: prescription or some sort of verification. 75 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: You can't just get over the counter or have it recreational. 76 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: So but it says, hey, there is some medical value here, 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: there's some risk of abuse. So this is where it's at. 78 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: And so the issues with all of that is one, 79 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: when it's completely Schedule one, it's a criminal offense to do. 80 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: Anything with anything around it. 81 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: Around it, so all the business aspects to it. If 82 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: you're a plumber that wants to work on the toilet 83 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: in in a cannabis shop, like you could potentially be 84 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: like you know, it's all these things, banks all you 85 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: can't put your money in there, like all these different 86 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: things that impact it. Because the Feds still say that right, 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: research all of that stuff. So even if you're a 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: voter and you're in a community, we say this is 89 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: how we want to live and this is what we've 90 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: looked at. We have medical prescribe with all that stuff, 91 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: the Feds can say this is all legal, because it is. 92 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: They're all living in crime right now. You know, we 93 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: talked to you know be Real from Cypress Hill, who's 94 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: not only amazing rap artist, still his amazing entrepreneur in 95 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: the cannabis industry and has different places in different states, 96 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: and we talked about the complications and not only just 97 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: so much running in LA, but running another you know, 98 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: it's crazy. 99 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: Because there's no uniform way to do the packaging has 100 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 4: to be one way here, it has to be another way, yeah. 101 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: Right now. 102 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: And it's not only the cannabis aspects that we're seeing. 103 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: You know, we talked a lot about psychedelics. We're talking 104 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot. There's been a lot of you know, great 105 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: movement there, but there's also been some setbacks and we 106 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: have some great conversations with people that have experimented with 107 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: them and experienced some amazing results, and we get into 108 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: all that this season too, But also how you know, 109 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: the policy is still kind of pushing this down and 110 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to see the full benefits of maybe 111 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: some of the medical things that we could see. You know, 112 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: we have so many soldiers come back from war right 113 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: now with PTSD and you know, post COVID and all 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: these things where treatment could be incredibly beneficial and again 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: a step back. 116 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: That's a big part why hearing these stories is important, because, 117 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: like you said, you can hear the information and you 118 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: can see it and it's easy to just oh, well, 119 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: these people just want to get hide. This is right, 120 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: this is one thing. But when you actually hear people's 121 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 4: experience and how it's helped them and how it's benefited 122 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: them and how they've been able to help other people, 123 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 4: it changes your whole perspective. And I think it's got 124 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: to be respected, just because these are people that we 125 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: say we care about and that we look up to, 126 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: and I think people just try to always go to 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 4: the back, to the reefer madness. It's people that want 128 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 4: to get hide at once to abuse drugs. And yes, 129 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: I'm sure there is that, and that's never not going 130 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: to be a thing. It doesn't matter if you change 131 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: the laws on that. People are still gonna find a 132 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: way to go around the legal things. But if you 133 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: have a chance to actually help people that need the 134 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: help and it doesn't change anything on the other side, 135 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: why would you not do that? 136 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I totally agree at least get it out there to 137 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: let's just lay it on the table, like what works, 138 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: what doesn't. 139 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Like these are people's lives. 140 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: And you know, one of my favorite experiences on kind 141 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: of our tour here talking to people was speaking to 142 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: John Osborne. 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: You know from the Brothers Osbourne. I grew up in 144 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: an Apples, Maryland. 145 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: He grew up, like, you know, thirty minutes south of 146 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: me and deal and just seeing this big, old, scruffy 147 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: dude with like the lowest voice in the world, you know, 148 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: talking very generally about you know, suicidal thoughts and psilocybin 149 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: and how reached out to a friend helped him and 150 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: a real amazing moment for me. 151 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: And I hope you all listen to that episode. 152 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: Was anything like from the tour, like anything that stood 153 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: out to you, I mean, not given too much, but. 154 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 4: You know, yeah, yeah, I got to listen to him 155 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,799 Speaker 4: hit the actual details. 156 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: But just. 157 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: Like Ricky Williams sitting down with him, that's somebody who's 158 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: had his story told by other people. And I didn't 159 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: see this when I watched all the stories about him. 160 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: He quit because of weed. 161 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 4: He wanted to smoke someone, and his thing was he 162 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: just had to be He wanted to be honest about 163 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: what was going on and how it was going on. 164 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: And he said once he started doing that, it freed 165 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 4: up a lot of stuff for him. 166 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm so jealous. 167 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: No, and being honest from all directions is where we 168 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: really want to take it, not only the benefits, but 169 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: what are the risks? 170 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: What is safe practice? What does that look like? Who 171 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: do you need to talk to? 172 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: Like all these things are important because really when things 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: get out there and it's like, oh, this is all great, 174 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: everything's wonderful, you can do whatever you want, that's when 175 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: we see these slide backs because people weren't being honest 176 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: the other way too, and so like it takes everyone. 177 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 4: The effects of it. Yeah, as you wanted it to 178 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: appear a certain way. And so if everybody's just like 179 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: like you said, like Ricky said, be honest, or like 180 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: other guests, be real. 181 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: Be real, just be real man. 182 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 2: Be real is the coolest man I've ever met of mine. 183 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know you're talking about be honest, 184 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: and there's no one more honest than with you than 185 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: like your friends and family. And you know, we talked 186 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: to two people that went through struggled with addiction, still 187 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: are going through their things. To musicians Brent Smith and 188 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: Marcus King. You might remember Brent Smith from Shining Down, Uh, 189 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: from BacT just an amazing artist. We had a conversation 190 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: with him, really cool just to hear like his story 191 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: of recovery and where he's at. And then Marcus King, 192 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, kind of talking about what he calls and 193 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: what people call like California sober, which you don't do 194 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: anything else, but he does smoke cannabis. So it's interesting 195 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: and we want to tell these stories from people that 196 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: struggled with substances are trying to you know, work their 197 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: way and recovery and what that looked like and what helped. 198 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: And like I said, the be honest, it's their friends 199 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: and family. The community that was around them that you 200 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: see was what helped the success. It was a teacher 201 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: for Marcus, it was you know, Brent's managers, these people 202 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: around them that if they weren't there and that social 203 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: network wasn't there, who knows where they'd be. It wasn't 204 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: getting thrown into a tank and being told like sober 205 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: up and clean up and then make things that are 206 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: going to be okay. And so I just thought those 207 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: conversations to show you know, what addiction is, how people 208 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: are dealing with it, and how important it is to 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: have those people around you have honesty, love, respect, the 210 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: things that we all need for everything. 211 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 4: People always think we're advocating for drugs right. And when 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 4: you hear advocating, you think advocating for drug use, but 213 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: it's not advocating. 214 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: Once again, we're back to the people. 215 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 4: We're advocating like, yes, if people need cannabis, yes, but 216 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: also we're advocated for people when they're trying to get 217 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 4: off of drugs, when they're trying to get off of 218 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 4: a substance, when they're trying to recover, when they're trying 219 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: to rehab well. I think it can easily be looked 220 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 4: at by people that don't want any progress to be well, 221 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 4: they just want people to have drugs. 222 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it shows how our solutions of you know, 223 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: are this one size fits all approach and what's good 224 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: for me is not gonna be good for you and 225 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: hitting it at the right time. And there's no way 226 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: that we can have that type of you know aspects 227 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: with some one size fits all approach that we've been 228 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: kind of pushing on this and having a right and 229 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: a wrong. There's just this array And I hope that 230 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: comes out in a lot of these interviews and hopes 231 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: that opens some people's eyes to be like, hey, these 232 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: are people like you said, I trust and respect, and 233 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: I get to hear their stories and it's not just 234 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: like you said, advocating for use. Like you know, we 235 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: try to hit a lot of different parts of this 236 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: as you can tell, Like there's a lot of moving aspects, 237 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: but it's it's. 238 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: Going in the right direction and hopefully we can shine 239 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 2: light a little bit on that. 240 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all we're trying to do here. 241 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing about this is about hearing from 242 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 4: people how it's going to affect people and the benefits 243 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 4: that it has for people. Man, were really excited for 244 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 4: y'all to hear it, and yeah, let's get into with it. 245 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 246 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: The War on Drugs is a production of Lava for 247 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: Good and Stand Together Music and association with Signal Company 248 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: Number one. Stand Together Music unites musicians and their teams 249 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: with proven change makers to co create solutions to some 250 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: of the most pressing. 251 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: Issues in our country, including. 252 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: Criminal justice, for foreign addiction recovery, mental health, education, free speech, 253 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: and ending the War on drugs. 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