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Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, everybody, It's Wednesday, June twenty first, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. But we're still

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Speaker 1: not totally sure what day it is. Me and your

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Speaker 1: manam G. Marcus Grant Michael F Florida is off this week,

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Speaker 1: so sitting in Mkwan Jones. What's up, man?

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Man? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is awesome, man. I mean I love the talk

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Speaker 2: ball with you guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, it's good to have you back. Of course,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know Lakwan one where you've been, and

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Speaker 1: he was on with us just a few weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: but you can find him on Twitter at Real Deal Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: He also is one of our researchers here at NFL Network.

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Speaker 1: What are you doing, man, You've got multiple things going on.

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Speaker 2: Man, I just been hanging low key, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. I've just been kind of taking a step

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Speaker 2: back and I'm still behind the scenes grinding, doing the

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Speaker 2: notes and staying up to date. But you know, I've

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Speaker 2: been kind of chilling and joining this little la summer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what summer right I was. I

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Speaker 1: was telling you the other day you have not had

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Speaker 1: a real By the way, let me before I get

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Speaker 1: into all that we do. We are in studio, so

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Speaker 1: we've got Josh and Susie here. Please give yourselves around

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Speaker 1: in the class. Yeah no, but I was telling you

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Speaker 1: the other day. You and I were also on a

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Speaker 1: live stream mock draft pod with Joe PCP, Andrew Ericson

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Speaker 1: and the guys over Fantasy pros, and I was saying that,

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Speaker 1: you know, one one of these years, you're going to

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Speaker 1: get an actual normal LA summer. Where last year when

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Speaker 1: you first moved here, it was ungodly hot.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty degrees.

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Speaker 1: Unseasonably warm even for Los Angeles. This year, it's been

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Speaker 1: sort of cool and cloudy and overcast, but the sun's

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Speaker 1: starting to come out. And I think now that today

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it felt like Jersey weather with all the

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Speaker 2: rain and stuff. It was kind of cold and it's

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Speaker 2: like forty degrees and them when I'm like, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: move back.

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Speaker 1: No exactly, I was just like, you know, I petitioned

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Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom. I'm like, I don't pay my tax

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Speaker 1: dollars for this. I need you to fix it. Make

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Speaker 1: it be, make it be Los Ange again normal, So

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're actually heading that way. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: enough of that, because I'm sure there are people in

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Speaker 1: We were like, you know, just shut up and actually,

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Speaker 1: if you were out there, I know it is. It

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Speaker 1: is dangerously hot in some places in the country. So please,

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Speaker 1: you know, stay safe, h stay cool, hydrate for sure,

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Speaker 1: you know, and just just try to be well wherever

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Speaker 1: you are. Anyway, H thought today we would talk about

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Speaker 1: what I'm calling black box offenses. These are offenses that

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Speaker 1: when it comes to drafting, we don't have a real idea.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we do, but there's nothing that immediately jumps out

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Speaker 1: we can go. So I pulled some headlines relating to

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Speaker 1: each of these teams and we'll sort of dive into those. Plus,

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Speaker 1: we're not doing Florio's Film Festival this week because well

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Speaker 1: Florio's not here, but we do have a movie themed

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Speaker 1: game that brought to us courtesy of Laquai. I'll keep

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Speaker 1: trade or cut explain a little bit more. We get

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Speaker 1: off season. I'm using air quotes for those of you

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Speaker 1: who can't can't see this right now, literally runs from

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Speaker 1: Saint Brown says he wants to be used more as

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Speaker 1: worked sort of underneath our power. Matt Harmon calls him

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Speaker 1: Bud like Cooper Cup because he sort of works in

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Speaker 2: I think we kind of are, but not by much,

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Speaker 2: you know. I think I would take a Monrob before

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Speaker 2: CD Lamb or DeVante Adams. And it's kind of close

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Speaker 2: for me with Garrett Wilson. But when it comes to

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Speaker 2: wide receiver ten right now is a good spot for him.

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Speaker 2: I'm very comfortable. But you know, for the benefit for

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Speaker 2: now about my strategy.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the trick with doing this is that you

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, like two drafts ahead, like, I'm definitely at

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: You end up with drafts, in drafts of people who

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Speaker 1: whole world gets flipped upside down when a guy that

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Speaker 1: The worst, the absolute stone worst mentioned. He is at

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Speaker 2: Happy for Jared Goff, I will say that.

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Speaker 1: Are you I mean, because you are a Rams fan,

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Speaker 2: A super Bowl. But uh no, I'm really happy for

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Speaker 2: what he's doing over there in Detroit. Man, he he's

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Speaker 2: His decision making is it's phenomenal. This last past season,

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Speaker 1: And I think what's amazing about that is that that

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm ready for a Week one versus the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna put up a lot of points.

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Speaker 1: To tell you that, man, that is going to be

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Speaker 1: an interesting fantasy potential smash spot. With those two offenses

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Speaker 1: Know that that aside, the Bengals want to sort of restructure.

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Speaker 1: what's cool now? Like Mixing is locked in? Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: I've honestly, I felt comfortable taking Mixon as my RB

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Speaker 2: So it looks like they got him involved heavily in

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Speaker 2: that passing game last season. So his involvement in passing

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Speaker 2: you can also go running back on that turn, like

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Speaker 2: if you're in that you know, late fourth round spot,

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Speaker 2: like that early fifth round, and you can grab a

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, Aaron Jones, Miles Sanders, etcetera. Guys that are

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Speaker 2: still available there, guys that could potentially outperform their ADP.

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Speaker 2: So mixing ADP is down right now because of all

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Speaker 2: field issues and the question with his contract and if

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Speaker 2: they do add a veteran like this guy finished RB

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Speaker 2: six last season, and I think he's capable to being

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at Joe Mixon, the idea

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Speaker 2: He keeps the relationship spicy, like you never know he's

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Speaker 1: Right exactly? Man over to Chicago. Justin Fields says the

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Speaker 2: Think it's just right. Man Like wide receiver twenty six,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't want him as my wide receiver

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Speaker 2: I might. I might go DJ Moore here, really I might.

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Speaker 1: I'm a guy.

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Speaker 2: I know you're an I know you're I just you know.

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Speaker 1: I think Brandon and is gonna have a huge season

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Speaker 2: Mike Williams, Mike go, Mike Williams. Yes, yeah this did

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Speaker 1: One other thing about the Bears offense last year, Justin

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Speaker 2: because you know, he couldn't just make our lives miserable

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Speaker 2: somebody else's bunch. Chris Olave is everybody's drafting Christal lobby

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Speaker 2: probably in a lot of drafts. But how are you

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Speaker 2: I tell you right now, I'm fading Michael Thomas. I'm

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Speaker 2: like Rashid Shaheed, but he's one of those players I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest, like, I really only have interest in Chris o'

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Speaker 2: that downfield ball is going to be great and Chris

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Speaker 2: So to be honest, you really be throwing the dice

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Speaker 1: I want that might be it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be it.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. If I do enough, and I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: if I do enough of them, I'm sure Michael Thomas

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Speaker 1: You know, Derek Carr is good enough. We know he

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Speaker 1: there's just no one here. If you could convince me

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Speaker 1: back in. I'd be all right, let's go. But you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't promise that for me, And so that that

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Speaker 2: I mean, they have the Brian Edwards, you know, mister

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Speaker 1: I you know, when he was drafted by the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: I'm out, man, I'm out. I've let go, I've let

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Speaker 1: go in the rope on Brian Edwards lashing the best,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna draft him on my fantasy team.

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Speaker 1: All right, That gets us through the news. Let's turn

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Speaker 1: I picked four offenses from last year that weren't particularly

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Speaker 1: So I'm starting with the Rams because we got Lakwan here,

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Speaker 1: a quote central figure in the team's offense. The next

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Speaker 1: one is that the Rams quote feel confident in Van Jefferson,

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Speaker 1: And then the third one Sean McVay saying Puka Nakua

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Speaker 2: I cried, I definitely cried.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line was a shambles last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: Akers and Sean McVay were the Ross and Rachel of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It was on again, it was off again.

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Speaker 2: On a break.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like I don't know who plays the

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Speaker 2: Like, I believe that their relationship is good right now.

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Speaker 2: So I think with them on the same page, they're

434
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 2: going to try to keep that momentum, try to keep

435
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 2: the relationship strong and communicate, because it was nasty work

436
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,440
Speaker 2: last season and beginning, and it was looking really, really bad.

437
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,919
Speaker 2: But it's good to see that, you know, things are

438
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 2: looking up for camp makers.

439
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 1: They are looking up for camp makers. And he's the

440
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 1: guy that I've actually been drafting in a few spots

441
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: simply because I and this was before today's news, by

442
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: the way, that Sony Michelle is coming back. Yeah, but

443
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 1: before that, I looked around and I said, look, the

444
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 1: guy behind him is Kyrone Williams. And last year there

445
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: were a couple of weeks where they tried to make

446
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 1: Kyron Williams the running back one and make him the starter,

447
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: and he still got out performed by Acres.

448
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: Acres.

449
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: He played more snaps, he still got outperformed. So I

450
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 1: just I can't see a situation where they're really going

451
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: to try and force a committee. I think some of

452
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: these other guys will get opportunities.

453
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this season we'll see more of Acres,

454
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: just with the addition of the offensive coordinator of Micha

455
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: Laflor Like, I definitely think he can get more involved

456
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: in the passing game. I mean, that's all we've been

457
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,119
Speaker 2: waiting for for Acres. We've seen him have flashes catching

458
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 2: passes out of the backfield. But can I nerd out

459
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 2: real quick over Michael Floor. I mean, look, the offense

460
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: is over the years that he's been involved with. Like

461
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: if we look at the Jets twenty twenty one to

462
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, just for third in running back targets

463
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 2: per game with eight, and then twenty seventeen to twenty

464
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 2: twenty for San Francisco he was the running backs were

465
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 2: fifth in running back targets with eight, and twenty seventeen

466
00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Carlos Hide he finished fifth in targets among running backs.

467
00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: Like that just sounds crazy, Tom right. And then twenty fifteen,

468
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,479
Speaker 2: with his time with the Falcons, we have Devonte Freeman

469
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: finished RB one. Like I'm buying whatever he's selling McVeigh

470
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: on this offense, and hopefully McVeigh is buying and executing

471
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: this on Sundays. I mean, I can only see Acres

472
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: ADP slightly and slowly surely going up once we start

473
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: seeing those tapes of seeing him catching passes out the backfield,

474
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: like it's gonna be great.

475
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: Man, nothing like training camp video to Mansion Skyrocket. A

476
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: dude's a d P. There's nothing like it. I would

477
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,719
Speaker 1: say all this. The other thing I'd throw in is

478
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: offensive one is still not going to be great.

479
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: Get the ball out fast man.

480
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: Got an immobile quarterback, gets that ball out. Could be

481
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: a lot of panic panic targets for camp makers this year.

482
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 1: That's possible as well. Speaking of the passing game in

483
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, we know Cooper cup is going to be

484
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: a target monster because that's just what he does. Who's

485
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 1: the number two target behind him? There?

486
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,879
Speaker 2: I've gone over this. I've looked at the notes and

487
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: I've gone over this in my head trying to figure

488
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: out who's the number two. And I want to say

489
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: it's Van Jefferson, But I'm not a hundred central right now.

490
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 2: Like through the past years, around this time, we kind

491
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: of already know who the number two is. We're trying

492
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 2: to figure out whose number three. But it's like, man,

493
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 2: I want to say Van Jefferson, but his health is

494
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: definitely in the back of my mind when I'm drafting

495
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: him as like the number two target. My dark horse

496
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: honestly is cam Akers, but we already spoke on him.

497
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 2: But I would have to say it's hard to say

498
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: Van Jefferson when you have Pooka in the shadows. Just

499
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: building this hype, man, I you.

500
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: Know, I'm also kind of throwing a little bit of

501
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: something toward Tyler Higby. There is, yeah, potentially River a

502
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, he had that finish.

503
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: To the season twenty nineteen five games.

504
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, super gronk for her.

505
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 2: Look, man, he got broken Todd Gurley, you got a

506
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: Josh Reynolds that wasn't developed in you know, guys were

507
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: injured and banged up. Of course he's going to have

508
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 2: that guy.

509
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember he ate eight eight. We were

510
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: all like, Tyler Higby is going to be a top

511
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: three time theirt year and that that didn't really happen.

512
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: But I do think he's going to see a lot

513
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: of work. I think cam Akers is definitely in the

514
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: running for that number two.

515
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: Definitely a dark horse yet.

516
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: But it really is sort of wide open, which brings

517
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 1: me to my third question about the Rams. So I

518
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,719
Speaker 1: wrote it as is there an under the radar guy

519
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you're targeting? What I really meant is, where are you

520
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: drafting man?

521
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: Nico Man? He he When I watch this tape, Man,

522
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: he can be really used anywhere on the field. He's

523
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: doing end a rounds jet sweeps and going downfield as

524
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 2: a contested catch a wide receiver. So I know Sean

525
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 2: McVay is loving this guy through camp, especially with Cooper

526
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: Cup giving him praise as well. And once I see

527
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: in that jersey reveal number seventeen, I was like, oh, yeah,

528
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: this is Robert Woods. This is Robert Wood's time, baby,

529
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 2: So I can definitely see him having some type of impact,

530
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna say he's gonna have an impact

531
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 2: on day one. He's one of those guys like you're

532
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: happy you have stash and he's showing up on the

533
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: back end of the season gives us a little sneak

534
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: peak of year two production, you know what I mean.

535
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 2: So I definitely like tagging him into fifteenth round maybe,

536
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: but this hype is building. Man, you might have to

537
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: reach on him.

538
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm I have you know, drafted him a

539
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: few times late and as long as he stays kind

540
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: of around there. Yeah, the bottom part of drafts.

541
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: Anything beyond ten, I'm good, right, I.

542
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 1: Mean, so if he starts moving out, then I'm gonna

543
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: be out. Is this gonna work out better than to

544
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: two as well?

545
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I kind of want to pat myself on

546
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: the bag about that. I'm like, oh, he's getting drafted

547
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 2: to be special teams. He's definitely he's gonna run that

548
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: nine route. As soon as I seen the Deshaun Jackson

549
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: signing all that, he's just gonna teach him that nine

550
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: round burners get open separation, stuff like that. But you know,

551
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: shout out to two two and best ballstall.

552
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's move over to the Steelers. Offensively, they were

553
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: not great last year. They were They were painful to watch.

554
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: I compared them on the show to the movie The Fan.

555
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen the movie The Fan.

556
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: The mid nineties. Quick story. I remember in college my

557
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: roommate was like, Hey, let's go to the movies. I'm

558
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: all right, cool, is that what do you want to see?

559
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: He said, Let's go see The Fan. He's like, it's

560
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: got Robert de Niro, it's got Wesley Snipe. Baseball and

561
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, that seems like a great idea.

562
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: How did I not see this?

563
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: It was terrible. The movie was terrible, and like it

564
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: had all these great elements to it, things that I

565
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: thought I would love. It was an awful, awful movie.

566
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: Wow.

567
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: And that was kind of like the Steelers and that

568
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: They've got Deontae Johnson and they've got Nagie Harris, they've

569
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: got Pat Fryarmuth. They were really not fun to watch

570
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: as an offense slash depressing, very depressing. So I mean,

571
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: if you if you really want to just make yourself

572
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: ill for a couple hours, go rent the fan Like

573
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can find it on a streaming service

574
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 1: for or something like that, insting it out. It's not

575
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: good anyway. The Steelers a few headlines about them. One

576
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: could Jalen warren seymore work in twenty twenty three. He

577
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: apparently looked very good in mini camp. Yeah, and he

578
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: talk is it's gonna be hard for the Steelers to

579
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: keep him off the field like they tried to last year.

580
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: Headline too, Alan Robinson quote impressed in every facet that

581
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: see your face you heard that? What we all remember

582
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: what that was last year? Lord? But he impressed in

583
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: every facet at Mini Camp three. Steelers wide receiver coach

584
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: Frisman Jackson expects a quote big jump from George Pickens

585
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: in year two. So let's start back here at the

586
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: running back spot. Yeah, Jinger Warren getting more work. Najee

587
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Harris was not quite as productive last year as he

588
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: had been in the first field touches, but well, part

589
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: of it was that first year he had a ton

590
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: of targets because you have Ben Roethlisberger who was just

591
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 1: broken down, couldn't throw the ball downfield, so he dumped

592
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: it off to Naji Harris. That went away when Roethlisberger

593
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: went away. Now we're talking about Jalen Warren getting more

594
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: work potentially, should we be fading Nasee or is this

595
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: just an overreaction.

596
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: I wouldn't fade him. I mean put it like this,

597
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: you technology, you handcuff Jalen Warren. I mean he's a

598
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: stun We saw some flashes last season where he's catching

599
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 2: passed out the backfield, getting outside, hitting the edge hard,

600
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: jumping over people, which is crazy. I mean it was

601
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: this guy Todd Gurley. But I feel like he's a

602
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: guy that I'll be glad that I got him in

603
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: the later rounds. If at any point Najie Harris is

604
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: a no go for the game, like he's going to

605
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: get the work, He's going to be fed. They want

606
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: to get this guy involved, So why not the opportunity of,

607
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: you know, if Naji is going to miss some time

608
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: to like really make him the workhorse, to see what

609
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: you've got in this young guy. I mean, it'll be

610
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: a no brainer plug and play. If nag he's out.

611
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 2: He's an angry runner, and I love angry runners.

612
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's definitely true. I mean, first, the first year

613
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: he had ninety four targets. That number came down to

614
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: fifty three. Last year. He's got He's giving you over

615
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: twelve hundred scrimmage jars in both the years. He's giving

616
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: you ten total touchdowns in both years, but the number

617
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: of touches went down significantly. I would think this year,

618
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: if they're really serious about putting Jalen Warren on the

619
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: field more often, I think you see Naji's touches go

620
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: under three hundred either a three thirty last year. I

621
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: see that number potentially dipping down. Maybe you're looking at

622
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, to seventy five.

623
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: Maybe Naji's ADP needs to come down a little, you.

624
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Know, and right now he's the running back twelve.

625
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: I believe fifteen might be better.

626
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: But again, so this is this is the thing, right

627
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: looking around, Let's let's let's do who would you rather again,

628
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: Najia Harris or Travis ETN Travis ATN Najie Harris or

629
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs.

630
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Oh, giddy up, give me, gives.

631
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Man. All right here we're talking about Najie Harris or

632
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. Oh God, since we just talked about Marcus.

633
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: This is hard. Actually, I'm not supposed to make this

634
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: easy on you.

635
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: I think this is I might go Naji, I might

636
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: go I probably go Naji.

637
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just maybe And maybe that's where the

638
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: I would say, maybe that's where the dead zone is hitting.

639
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: That's sort of round early, Round four flourish, Yeah, which

640
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: again brings me back to maybe the dead zone is

641
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: sort of floating.

642
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: It's floating because when I think about that fifth round,

643
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: I'm still seeing Kenneth Walker on the board, yeah, or

644
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders, and these are guys that I think are

645
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: going to outperform their ADP.

646
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know over to the passing game,

647
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: though in Pittsburgh Kenny Pickett, we all, I think, are

648
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: agreed that the success or lack of success in fantasy

649
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 1: with the pass catchers really hinges on Kenny Pickett, yes

650
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: to do. How many pass catchers do we think he

651
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: can legitimately support? I mean, like, how many guys Let's

652
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: just say, you know, for wide receiver, let's call it

653
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: a top what thirty six finish making a wide receive?

654
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Three for Pat Fryer, move the top twelve finish? How

655
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: many different pass catchers can he support?

656
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: I do expect him to take a step forward. I

657
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: want to say three comfortable, and that's what Pat fire move.

658
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: And Deontay Johnson that third I'm questioning. It could be Pickens,

659
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 2: it could be Robinson. It just gets a little interesting

660
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: when we're trying to play the guessing game of if

661
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickott's actually gonna take this step forward, Like we

662
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: just need him to literally take one step forward, because

663
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 2: I think he finished strong, you know, in the back

664
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: end of that season, and I really feel as though

665
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: he learned a lot and this offseason, I mean, we

666
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: just had to wait until training camp to hear to

667
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 2: report to his decision making if he's able to read guys,

668
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: what chemistry he's building the most. But I think Deontay

669
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: Johnson's the alpha here regardless, though.

670
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two. I think Johnson for sure.

671
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: I think friar Mouth. I think the rest of that

672
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: is going to be split up between Pickens and Alan Robinson.

673
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: They're going to each other, Nagie Harris, They're all going

674
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: to sort of cannibalize each other for the rest of

675
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: those targets. You know, I think anything more than that

676
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: feels very optimistic. This was a team that was sort

677
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: of middle of the pack with definite pass attempts. They

678
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: were tied for sixteenth with the Broncos.

679
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: But where are the touchdowns?

680
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: Man? They did not have a lot of passing touchdowns.

681
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Where are those touchdowns? That number was bad? Uh. They

682
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: had the fewest passing touchdowns of any team in the league. Yeah,

683
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: at twelve, which by the way, also has impacted I

684
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: think Deontay Johnson's hard adp which which is fine. Yeah.

685
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: So my next question is are you buying into the

686
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: George Pickens type, Because about a month ago, George Pickens

687
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: was going ahead of Deontay Johnson in Best Ball drafts,

688
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: and then you know, I don't know who the first

689
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,479
Speaker 1: person was to point this out. Everybody's like what are

690
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: we doing? Like why does this happen? Right? And then

691
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: it's flipped the other way, where now Johnson is going

692
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: ahead of Pickens and the ADP is starting to come

693
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: up on Johnson. I think basically what happens is people

694
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: looked around and you know a lot of the people

695
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: who were in the know who watched table are like, hey, man,

696
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: this dude is a good route runner. He gets open,

697
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: he gets targets. And then people who you know, maybe

698
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: are more casual or didn't watch all that stuff looks like, yeah,

699
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: but he had zero touchdown? Yeah right, And like you

700
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: can listen to all these tape grinders, all these you know,

701
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: these people who do charting, who really good work, who

702
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, he's really really good at this, and

703
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: then somebody comes back and it's like, yeah, zero touchdowns?

704
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: What do you want me to do about?

705
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: I mean, man, it's so it's crazy, but it's a long.

706
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: Way basically saying I know, you like Deontay Johnson. I

707
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: like Deontay Johnson, but but George Pickens is a highlight

708
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: reel waiting to happen. Are you Are you buying that?

709
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: It's a fade for me at ADP, And like, I

710
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: want to make it clear, I'm not saying he's not

711
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: going to take a step forward in year two, but

712
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: it's not a large enough step for me to pay

713
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: that price at ADP. I know the catch is amazing.

714
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: I know we all watched that like twenty times, but

715
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: there's a lot more going on behind that. And like

716
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: if we look at the games where Kenny Pickett in

717
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: the driver's seat, I mean, Pickens only had a fourteen

718
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: percent target share behind Pat Fairmove with seventeen percent target share.

719
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: So Pickens is going ahead of a guy who has

720
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: the most games with ten plus targets since twenty twenty

721
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: with thirty games. It's kind of crazy to me. That's

722
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson, by the way.

723
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's still Here's thing. George Pickens is

724
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: what I like to think of as a red zone receiver.

725
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: And I don't mean like inside the twenty yard line.

726
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean is in like Scott Hansen seven hours of

727
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: commercial free football red zone. Like, if you're watching red zone,

728
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: you're not seeing every drive, You're not seeing every play

729
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: necessarily of a game, but you are seeing the highlights.

730
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: So when George Pickens does something amazing, it shows up

731
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: on Red Zone, it shows up on your Twitter feed,

732
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: it shows up on all the highlight shows, and so

733
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: that is what you think, like, man, this dude must

734
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: be amazing. And then you go look at the numbers

735
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, three for thirty seven, one

736
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: of them happened to be that ridiculous highlight reel. Nay, yeah,

737
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: whereas you know again, Deontay Johnson is the guy who's

738
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: moving the chains. He's putting in the work, he's getting

739
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: the targets, he's getting the catches. But because he didn't

740
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: catch one in the painted area last year, everybody's looking

741
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: down on him.

742
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: But just fine. We all love touchdowns.

743
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: We all love touchdowns. I get it, man, it's the

744
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: whole name of the game. But sometimes you can be

745
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: good without scoring exactly. It really is a thing. We

746
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: got a couple more teams we're gonna dive into, but first,

747
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: well take a quick break, come back, do more of

748
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: some black Bots offenses, and then we'll play a little

749
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: bit of keep, trade or cut. It's coming up next

750
00:34:53,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast looking into some black

751
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: box offenses, offenses that weren't particularly good in twenty twenty

752
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: two and trying to decipher what they might be in

753
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, at least for fantasy purposes. Down to

754
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: the Music City, Tennessee Titans. Your headlines for the Titans.

755
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Ty J. Spears has been quote one of the most

756
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: active players this offseason. That made my heart flutter because

757
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: I have been drafted.

758
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: What does that actually mean?

759
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Thought's get active, Like he's just everywhere. He's just doing

760
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: a lot of things. Okay, I mean it could be eyewash,

761
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: but you know he's running around and being active, and

762
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: that's okay. Second headline, Traylon Burks has been Ryan Tannehill's

763
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: favorite target at OTA's or target that he is Ryan Tannehills.

764
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: There you go, but you know whatever, we won't nit

765
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: pick there. And the third one, Malik Willis makes many

766
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: Caps camp surge to be the QB two over will

767
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Levis officially the QB two, but he's making a push

768
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: to potentially be the QB too. So I asked this question.

769
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: I asked it this way, and it's probably not the

770
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: best phrasing of it, but I think you'll sort of

771
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: understand what I'm getting at here, right, Yeah, Derrick Henry,

772
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: he's still l tractorcito. He's still the focal point of

773
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: this Tennessee offense, but he is getting up there in age.

774
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: He's had a ton of work. There is talk that

775
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: maybe he could be moved at the trade deadline of

776
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: things aren't going well for the Titans. Ty J. Spears

777
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: has been one of the most active players this offseason.

778
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: So I'm asking you, should we be fading Derrick Henry?

779
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: But I guess the better way is, should we be

780
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: concerned about Derrick Henry at least in Tennessee.

781
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: I think concern when you're drafting, just get your expectations

782
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: in order, but never fade the King. I mean, you know,

783
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: one thing's for sure, def taxes, Dereck Henry three hundred

784
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: plus touches. Like, I think we kind of understand that.

785
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: And I was actually surprised to see the career high

786
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: and receptions, targets and receiving yards last season, which is great.

787
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: But I think you bring in tai Jack Spears to

788
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: kind of take someone that load off. But I'm still

789
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 2: drafting the King. He's still good to bust off. A

790
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: seventy six yard run.

791
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: You know.

792
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: So I'm still in on Derrick Henry, but it is

793
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: interesting to hear that there might be trying to trade

794
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: him before the deadline if Tennessee is not going in

795
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: the direction you want to go.

796
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's getting to the end of the contract.

797
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 1: I think they would prefer to if they could get

798
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: something to return for.

799
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: Him, definitely.

800
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, I've been glad that they decided to

801
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: throw him the football because that was the one knock

802
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: against him.

803
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, for all the years he heard all of this.

804
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: You know, fifteen hundred yards, two thousand yards, giving you

805
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: double digit touchdowns. That was amazing. And I'm like, why

806
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: don't they just they don't even have to make him

807
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: a route runner? Right? Just split him I just throwing

808
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: a little screen right, like he's a tank, put him

809
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: in space, and let DBS try to tackle him. Why

810
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't you do that? It was like suddenly the light

811
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: came on there, like, hey man, we got this big

812
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: old dude, Like, why don't we just give him the

813
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: ball in space and let DBS try to tackle him.

814
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: I was like, man, how'd you come up with that one?

815
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: You know, so again, last year, forty one targets, thirty

816
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: three catches three hundred ninety eight yards, Like, that's not

817
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: going to blow you away. But when you add that

818
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to what he gives you as a runner ground, geez,

819
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: that made him so much better. I'm curious to see

820
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: if Tennessee continues that or if, as you mentioned, uh

821
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: ty J. Spears sort of carves out that pass ken

822
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: on third down there. Traylon Burks mentioned has been Ryan

823
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: Tannehill's favorite target at OTAs. How are you feeling about

824
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: Traylon Burks? I want to get excited about him, I

825
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: just I can't.

826
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 2: And like he's that not sexy pick to me smart.

827
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: People have given me all sorts of reasons why Traylon

828
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: Burks could be a thing, Like I mean really do

829
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: like look, you.

830
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: Know, like can he be a thing as a player?

831
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: Can he be a thing in Tennessee. That's that's where

832
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 2: it needs to get kind of clear.

833
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: That that is, you know, that's an interesting way to

834
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: put it.

835
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like he's more of a player that I

836
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: need to wait and see, you know what I mean,

837
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Like we saw the Flashes last season, but this is

838
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: another low passing vie offense with questions at the quarterback group,

839
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I mean, yeah, I

840
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: understand that he's a premier player for them, and I

841
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 2: really love that. You know, he's healthy now and hopefully

842
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: he can stay healthy and stay on the field. But

843
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: we might see uh, you know, a charas I have

844
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks this year, we might see all three of them

845
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 2: on the field at one point.

846
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like I said, I want to get

847
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: excited about treylon Berg's I just can't. You know, people

848
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: have told me about you know, his his targets per

849
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: out run, his ability to get open and and you know,

850
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: earn targets. I've seen, you know, threads of clips about

851
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: what he does well, what he doesn't do well. Yeah,

852
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 1: I just I just look at the Titans passing game

853
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: and I'm like, it's lacking. It's lacking, and I just

854
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: I do I really want to be excited about him.

855
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: I just can't. I think I'm not happing him once

856
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 1: or twice, but I don't.

857
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't get I just don't see much of the

858
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: I've to be honest. I mean, the flashers are good,

859
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: but this is another like I said, low passing vy him.

860
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean twenty eighth and pass percentage last year, by

861
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: the way, fifty point nine percent twenty eight. So I'm

862
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: just looking like the I'm not going to be throwing

863
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: a ball enough for it to be constant flashes. This

864
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: seems like another season of flashes. Hopefully stays healthy, and

865
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: another season of less than ten fantasy points per game.

866
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: And it's just you know, I remember the whole selling

867
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: point for him draft season was he is a poor

868
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: man's a J. Brown.

869
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 2: That was that was you know, They're not going to

870
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: sell me saying a poor man.

871
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: I think for me, I think the mental hurdle for

872
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: me is that the Titans moved on from actual AJ

873
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Brown getting both to get discount a J. Brown. And

874
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, why, you know do you do that? It's like, hey, hey, mom,

875
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: like can we get a J. Brown? And the times

876
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: like we have AJ Brown at home? Like it's just

877
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: like why I don't. So I want to get excited

878
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: about Trylon Burks. And here's the thing. I will sit

879
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: here and if I am wrong, if we get to

880
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the midpoint of the season and he is balling out

881
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: and he looks like a you know, wide receiver two,

882
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: I will sit here and tell you that like I

883
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: swung and missed on it. I just I can't. I

884
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: can't get myself excited. I can't. Ryan Tannehill, as far

885
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: as I'm sart, is going to enter the season as

886
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: the starter unless something catastrophic happens. Will Ryan Tannehill be

887
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: the starter all season long in Tennessee now?

888
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: And that's why I'm leading it?

889
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no hesitation.

890
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think there's frustration in that quarterback room

891
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: and them drafting Will Levis. It kind of just put

892
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: put me in a way where like I usually wait

893
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: for a guy like Ryan Tannehill, because remember he was

894
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: a sneaky rusher, like he was being up in that

895
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: top twelve quarterback conversations because he was running the ball

896
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: and getting rushing touchdowns. But I just feel as though,

897
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: man like I cannot wait for quarterbacks and draft Ryan

898
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: Tannehill if there's uncertainty if he's the starter for the

899
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: rest of the season.

900
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what potentially could happen is the Titans

901
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,479
Speaker 1: get off to a bad start. Yeah, they get also

902
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: a bad start, and either Tannehill they decide again do

903
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: they want to move him, do they want to try

904
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: to trade him to a team then he's a quarterback.

905
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: Because someone's quarterback is going to get hurt. It's just

906
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: inevitable they try to move him. Or is it just

907
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: so bad that the Titans look around and say, hey,

908
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: you know what, let's just see what Will Levis has.

909
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: Let's just put him in here. I think those are

910
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: very much in the realm of possibility. But I do

911
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: think for at least the first month, six weeks, even

912
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: two months.

913
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: The bye week is week seven, I believe, yeah, so you.

914
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: Can get two months at least. I think at least yeah,

915
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: start until we really have this.

916
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm just not drafting him.

917
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm not drafting.

918
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: I'm not d We're not We're not doing that this year.

919
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: But who were drafted with Derrick Henry were drafting. I

920
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: guess we're drafting Treylon Burks. We're drafting Are we talking

921
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: Chi Chig? We are drafting Chig. I forgot about it.

922
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: We're drafting Tig. Yes, I guess.

923
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Last one, and I had a tough time coming up

924
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: with a fourth one, but I settled on the Washington Commanders.

925
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera says Sam Howell will enter training camp as

926
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: the starter. That Rivera also says Antonio Gibson could be

927
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: a quote matchup nightmare, and there's some speculation that the

928
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: Commanders could feature tight ends heavily in the passing game.

929
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: So started the quarterback. Sam Howell right now projected to

930
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: be the starter, but Jacoby Brissett is hanging around there

931
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: in Washington. Yeah, who is your preferred Washington quarterback? Not

932
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: because you're drafting that player, but because they could potentially

933
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: elevate everybody else around him.

934
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: I think if you want to win games, you go

935
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: with Sam Howe. I mean, I like what I saw

936
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: from Sam Howe. I've quietly been on this hype train.

937
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: I mean watching preseason last season. He's so cool, calm

938
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: and collected in the pocket and under pressure and has

939
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 2: the ability to take off upfield and get those extra

940
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: yards on the ground that you like. And I like

941
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: what he put on tape. I mean during preseason. You know,

942
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: he had one hundred and fifteen point seven passer rating

943
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: on the run and one hundred and eleven point seven

944
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: passer rating under pressure as pronection stats. So super flex leagues,

945
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: I'm targeting him as my QB three. He's a solid

946
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: player with the plenty of upside. Yeah, I'm buying all

947
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 2: into it.

948
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I would like him at least

949
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: as the quarterback. I don't know if I feel comfortable

950
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: enough drafting him even as a QB three. I think

951
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: my third QB I'm trying to take shots on, you know,

952
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud, somebody like.

953
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 2: Was that Lance?

954
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: No? No, no side note? Why is train Lance going

955
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: ahead of Rock Party in draft? I don't understand.

956
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 2: That's another question mark in my head.

957
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: But I mean I know why, Like everybody wants that

958
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: upside right, they want him to have that justin fields

959
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of season, but you can't do that from the sideline.

960
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: And all signs are pointing towards Rock Purty being ready to.

961
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: Greet yeah one, which is news.

962
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: It's great news, right, And so that that means that

963
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: the potential value of production for trade Lance goes down.

964
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: Yet I know, for at least for a while. I

965
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: haven't checked recently, but for a while, Train Lance is

966
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: going ahead of Rock Party, and it frustrated the hell

967
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: out of Yeah. But anyway, my point being, I think

968
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: i'd rather have Sam how I feel like he's at

969
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: least maybe gonna be a little bit more aggressive in

970
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: pushing the ball. I mean, Jacoby Brissett is a nice

971
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: safe quarterback. But if I'm drafting Terry McLaurin or Johan

972
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: Dotson or somebody, I don't want safe. I want you

973
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: taking shots down the field, especially because look, if I

974
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: have a wide receiver or a tight end or running

975
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: back in this offense, the interceptions don't necessarily hurt me.

976
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean, they limit possessions, and that part is bad,

977
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: but I'm not losing points over it. So take your shots.

978
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: And that's why we love Taylor Heineke. I mean taking

979
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: shots down the field, Taylor, it was great. So I

980
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: guess for that reason, Sam how is probably the guy

981
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I want. Hi Trader smoke screen. This is the Antonio

982
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: Gibson breakout season. Oh God, that looks like a smoke.

983
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: The way your face just turned, I'm guessing you're gonna

984
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: say smokes.

985
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 2: It's definitely a smoke screen.

986
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Man.

987
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: I feel like these reports are so annoying at this point,

988
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: and I don't they all seem like lies. I don't

989
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: know what's now, Eric the enemy is there? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

990
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like I was on the Antonio

991
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: Gibson train last year listening to reports and stuff that

992
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: you know he's in the doghouse and all this other stuff.

993
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, Brian fifty cent Robinson. By the way, I

994
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: think it's a it's a smoke screen because we saw

995
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: both these guys kind of kill each other's value last

996
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: where because when it comes to the red zone duty

997
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: they split it in completely in half, and like that's

998
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 2: part of the field where I don't like coaches playing

999
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: with my touchdowns. Man, you know, like a sign a

1000
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: role and let's get it done. And you know Antonio Gibson,

1001
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: you know, reports are usually seasonal.

1002
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm I think I'm buying back in.

1003
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm ready to get my heart broke again. I'll get

1004
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: the ice cream in. There's gonna be more targets there again.

1005
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: I talked about, you know, Joe Mixon maybe getting more

1006
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: targets with Ohama, J p Ryme, j D mckissics not

1007
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 1: in Washington, an he knows maybe some of those targets

1008
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: end up going to Antonio Gibson. There has been talked

1009
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: that that the Commanders want to play faster, they.

1010
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: Want to be a little bit more aggressive.

1011
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Passing game, and so maybe this means more for Antonio

1012
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: Gibson and look, I get where you are. I totally do.

1013
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: We have had these. My my frustration has always been

1014
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: that for Ron Rivera, every time he got a running

1015
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: back could catch passes, he would always compare him to

1016
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. And I'm like, it's not Christian McCaffrey. He's

1017
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: just a running back and catches the football. Like those

1018
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: are two different things. So I'm not let me just

1019
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: preface it. I'm not expecting him to be to turn

1020
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: into Christian McCaffrey or Austin Eckler or Saquan but I

1021
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: do think he could have a pass catching role in

1022
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: this offense. And at where the ADP is right now,

1023
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm okay with it. He's talking about, you know, eighth,

1024
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: ninth round.

1025
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 2: I'm just being better for Antonio Gibson.

1026
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that everything. I also sort of like

1027
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. I've sort of diversified. I've taken shots at

1028
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: both of those. Yeah, again because of where the the

1029
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,399
Speaker 1: ADP is, and you know, maybe I'm maybe I'm I'm

1030
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: drinking the Eric be Ingemi kool aid a little bit,

1031
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: maybe a little better in Washington, But I just sort

1032
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: of like them.

1033
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 2: I like Brian Robinson a lot. He's one of those

1034
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: peer runners. He's explosive, Like if he breaks to that

1035
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: second level, it's probably going to the house.

1036
00:47:59,280 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: You know.

1037
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: We just have to hope that this commander's offense is

1038
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 2: playing as aggressive if they want to, and they're clicking

1039
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: and chemistry and Sam Howe is making good decisions. That's

1040
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: what's important for this entire offense to click. But I

1041
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 2: believe in Sam Howe, and you know, and I think

1042
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: Tonio Gibson, like you said, with the ADP, he's safe. Yeah,

1043
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: he's safe.

1044
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 1: That's it. He's safe. It's not really a major risk. Yeah,

1045
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I think raft low risk, high reward. We'll put it

1046
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: like that. Last one for Washington, which pass catchers are

1047
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: you targeting any non Terry McLaurin division. I guess it

1048
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: could be better phrased as how many pass catches because

1049
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: there are other guys, but how many are you targeting?

1050
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: Johan Dotson is definitely the clear target for me. I mean,

1051
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: if you miss out on Terry McLaurin, That's kind of

1052
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: how I've been doing because I've been going out to

1053
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: Terry like aggressive. So the times where I miss him,

1054
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: I'm like Okay, kind of grin a little bit when

1055
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 2: I get Johan Dotson because he has a strong red

1056
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: zone presence, the threat. He finished strong last season too,

1057
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: like under the radar. Not many people were talking about

1058
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: him from weeks thirteen to eighteen, fourteen fantasy points per game.

1059
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 2: It was wide receiver seventeen with a twenty three percent

1060
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: target share. So I'd like his town twenty three outlook.

1061
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: I do like I like Johan Dotson. Any any interesting

1062
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel? Can I interest you in a Curtis Samuel

1063
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: this year?

1064
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 2: No?

1065
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: Any interesting a Logan?

1066
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: Thomas Logan, Thomas Man, he got to stay healthy. Man.

1067
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 2: He's getting up there in age, like really up there

1068
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 2: in age. But the reports, like you said, are wanting

1069
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: to be more you know, focus involvement with the tight ends.

1070
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: But I kind of I kind of have to see

1071
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 2: it because there's probably you know, a young guy on

1072
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: the roster that ends up popping out, you know what

1073
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: I mean. Like we've seen that happen in Denver.

1074
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And I could see you know, Washington trying

1075
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: to figure out maybe something at the tight end spot

1076
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: and rotating a couple of guys there. Thomas will be

1077
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: thirty two, just a couple of weeks. So Happy Birthday,

1078
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Happy early birthday, Logan Thomas, Yeah, I am, you know obviously, McLaurin,

1079
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: Johan Dotson. Yeah. I feel like I get to a

1080
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: late in the draft and I will see Curtis Samuel's

1081
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:54,479
Speaker 1: name there and I'll probably just scroll what year is it, man,

1082
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: Curtis Samuel was going to be a thing. Yeah. Yeah,

1083
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: several years.

1084
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: Ago, Yeah, seven more years ago.

1085
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Those Anyway, that's our look at some black box offenses.

1086
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: There's probably some other ones out there that maybe we

1087
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: can hit before Trading Camp starts up again. But I

1088
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: always do a little movie thing at the end of

1089
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: the show. It's a little keep Trade Cut. This is

1090
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: a game that you have come up with, that you

1091
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 1: have played.

1092
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: I'm excited to play this one.

1093
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: With just a top light explain, explain what the game is, all.

1094
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: Right, So it's keep Trade Cut with a twist. So

1095
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: we're keeping the movie thing for Florio's Festival Film Festival,

1096
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: which is dope, you know, shout out of Florio and

1097
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: you know, Keep Trade Cut. It's basically you pick three movies,

1098
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: but the trade you have to trade the actor, so

1099
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 2: you have to replace them. The role stays the same character,

1100
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: the movie stays complete the same. It's just that you're

1101
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: gonna do a little substitution. Okay, can I hit you

1102
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: with the first one?

1103
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: Please do? All right?

1104
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: Listen three movies, the Bad Boys franchise, Men in Black franchise.

1105
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 2: I am legend the actor obviously Will Smith. But for trade,

1106
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: you have to trade him out for Nick Cannon.

1107
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: All right, So I think I'm keeping.

1108
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: This is tough, Yeah, I know, because you're essentially losing

1109
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 2: two movies.

1110
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Losing losing. Yeah, I'm probably going to keep.

1111
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: I am legend, good man.

1112
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I will trade. I have to trade one of them,

1113
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: So I'm going to trade. I'll trade Nick Cannon for

1114
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 1: Men in Black really yeah, because I just can't see

1115
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: if I was gonna trade him in Bad Boys what

1116
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I want. I can't trade him, and I am like,

1117
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I just can't see because it's just not gonna happen.

1118
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: Nothing against Nick Cannon, but now if.

1119
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm trading him in Bad Boys, then I feel like

1120
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: I also have to swing a deal for Mark Lawrence.

1121
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: I can't have Nick Cannon and Martin Lawrence together, like

1122
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 1: it has to be like Nick. That's the other part

1123
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: I can't see Nick Cannon as Mike Lowry, Like I can't.

1124
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I can't. Seems like if I'm gonna if we're gonna

1125
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: read My Bad Boys, then I think it's you know

1126
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about like Michael B. Jordan and Kevin Harten

1127
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: there like that, right, But I can't. It might be

1128
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: a movie in Mike Lowery, So I gotta trade him.

1129
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: In Men and Black, I could see Nick Cannon alongside

1130
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: Tommy Lee Jones, Yeah, home, Men in Black.

1131
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 2: I think he actually made a cameo in Men and Like,

1132
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: if I'm.

1133
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: Not mistaken if I look at it. So I it's

1134
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: a tough decision, but that means I have to cut

1135
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: the Bad Boys franchise, which honestly, like the first one

1136
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: was really good. Uh the second one. I cut it

1137
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: on TV last night. I was like sort of underwhelmed,

1138
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: aside from the crush I had on Gabrielle Union for

1139
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: a while, and you know I didn't I haven't seen

1140
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: the newest one. I'm like, it's been twenty plus year. Yeah,

1141
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: Like I mean the first one hits man, Yeah, the

1142
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: first one, the first one still slaps. Beyond that, they

1143
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: sort of they sort of lost me. So so I'm

1144
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: keeping eye am legend. I am trading uh men in black,

1145
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 1: and I am cutting cutting bad.

1146
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: That's not bad, man, that's not bad. I honestly all right.

1147
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 2: But essentially you lost two, which is fine, yeah, which

1148
00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 2: thinks can we do another one?

1149
00:52:59,200 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? Please?

1150
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: All right? Listen, you got Keanu Reeves is an actor,

1151
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: you got the Matrix franchise, Speed, John Wick franchise, but

1152
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: the trade is Ryan Reynolds.

1153
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this one was was fairly easy for me.

1154
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: Really yeah. I mean, look, i would say I'm cutting

1155
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: the Matrix franchise. It stinks, like I it hurts. But again,

1156
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: it was another one where the first one was good,

1157
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: the second one was okay, it went on it was

1158
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: like a little bit too long, I.

1159
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: Think, oh yeah yeah, and the third.

1160
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: One was just like what are we doing here? So

1161
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: I'd have to cut the Matrix. I'm keeping Speed for sure.

1162
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: That was one of the early selections in our Florio

1163
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: Film Festival.

1164
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: Good movie.

1165
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: So I'm keeping Speed and I'm trading Ryan Reynolds and

1166
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: John Wick because it would sort of be like dead Deadpool,

1167
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: right like this was kind of like my son. I'm like,

1168
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: oh yeah, no, like I'm trading, I'm trading John Wick. Yeah,

1169
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: and I'm putting Ryan Reynolds there, and I think you

1170
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: don't really miss a beat. You have a little more humor.

1171
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: But it's like I asked my wife this last night

1172
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: and I told her, like, would you do with Speed?

1173
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: And she said, I'll put Ryan Reynolds in there instead.

1174
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm like what, I was like, you kind of that

1175
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 2: movie seems like it goes straight to VHS.

1176
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I can see. I mean, like,

1177
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, if it were like a Netflix release, maybe

1178
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: you put Ryan Reynolds. Maybe, but yeah, I just I

1179
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: think it's a completely different movie with Ryan Reynolds.

1180
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, completely different. No one more right, Yeah, yeah, do

1181
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: one more So. Bruce Willis got die Hard the sixth

1182
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: sense and the fifth element. The trade is Arnold.

1183
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: Ah all good movies. Yeah, this is so I will

1184
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: tell you that I'm not trading Arnold in the sixth sense.

1185
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: There's no you could not have Arnold Schwarzenegger in the

1186
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: sixth Can you imagine that would not work? So we're

1187
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: keeping die Hard because I think I just classic. I

1188
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: just think it's such a classic Christmas movie. I've given

1189
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: up that fun. I was squarely on the side of

1190
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: it's not. But I know a losing battle when I

1191
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: see one, So I'm just Gristmas. There you go. Side

1192
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: note is a Player's Ball by Outcast the Christmas song.

1193
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: Go back and listen to it. I'm telling you that

1194
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: Outcasts players ball is Christmas?

1195
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: Really all right, I gotta listen to it again.

1196
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 1: So I'm keeping. I'm keeping Bruce Willism die Hard. I

1197
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: am because I can't trade Schwartzenegger in this.

1198
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: You can't.

1199
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: I gotta trade him in the fifth element, which means

1200
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: I have to cut the sixth sense.

1201
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 2: That that's this was a tough one man.

1202
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: That hurts my soul. But but the fifth element, I

1203
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: could kind of see Arnold Schwartzenegger.

1204
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 2: Because he's done some movie like Total Recall again, you

1205
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1206
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Like I could sort of see him being Corbyn Dallas.

1207
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: This was hard man.

1208
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought about switching him out and

1209
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: die Hard too, but like, you know, welcome to the policy.

1210
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I don't know if that were he.

1211
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 2: Can hit to get to the chopper that chop.

1212
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: But like I just you know, like I don't I

1213
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: don't know that it quite works. It does there, it

1214
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: is cutting sixth Sense trading the Fifth Element. Damn, man,

1215
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: that was that was dope.

1216
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I love playing these games man. Yeah, buddy,

1217
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Matt Harmon, I played to what Adam saying.

1218
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: I saw that you played it with Matt Harmon, which

1219
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: is amusing to me because Harmon's only seen like seven

1220
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: movies in his entire life, so the fact that you

1221
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: got him to play this game was was pretty awesome.

1222
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, thanks for sitting man, dude.

1223
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Man, anytime Man, I'm around, I'm hanging out totally.

1224
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 1: We'll totally get you back on at some point too

1225
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: before before you know, we get to the start of

1226
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: the season, and even we'll try to, you know, see

1227
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: if we can snatch you away from your research. You

1228
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: get you in in season a couple of times too.

1229
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 1: We'll see how that sounds good, works out. Florida will

1230
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: be back next week. Uh and yeah, for those of

1231
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: you who are following along, our film festival selection for

1232
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: next week will be Independence Day because that'll be our

1233
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: last show before the actual Independence Day. So Florida was

1234
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: never seen Independence Day. In fact, he confused it with Armageddon,

1235
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: which is an incredibly different movie. Independence Day Hockey, Yeah,

1236
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: he confuses both of them.

1237
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 2: Would you put in the cannon in Independence Day?

1238
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Was that?

1239
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 2: Would you put in the cannon in Independence Day?

1240
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: I could, I could see that. I could see him

1241
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: in Independence Day. But like it's it's still not as

1242
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 1: good as Wilson.

1243
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it's the same movie anyway, though

1244
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: probably it wouldn't be that bad.

1245
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: But anyway, that'll be the movie next week with Florio

1246
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: will be back. We'll get a little Kwan back on

1247
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: at some point as well. Thanks to Josh and Susie

1248
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: of course for production assistance, and thanks all of you

1249
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: for hanging out and listening to the show as you

1250
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: always do. That'll do it for this edision of the

1251
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, safe and healthy, do good,

1252
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: live well, enjoy some movies, stay out of the heat,

1253
00:57:47,360 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you next week. Don't melt, I

1254
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: don't help Loo